Do EuroLeague Stars Earn MORE Than NBA Benchwarmers?
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2022
- It’s clear that the NBA is where big money is, but what if the only role a player can get is to warm the bench? Europe and more specifically the EuroLeague has been a popular landing spot for NBA athletes in such positions.
In this video, we delve into the financial landscapes of both leagues and discuss whether an NBA benchwarmer could earn more in the EuroLeague.
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I will play out my prime in the NBA for as long as possible, then go to Euroleague while I'm still very good but not at my best.
Benchwarmer all day
@@lukebankey6498 with this mindset you can clean the bench at best
I'd be an nba bench warmer no doubt. Lmfao
Warm that bench up and stay a valued tradable asset. By that time, I'd be on a veteran minimum. If I'm getting waived/released by then, it's time to jump leagues. Try the Euroleague circuit and all the other leagues around the world. Off top my head, there's the CBA, JBL, CEBL, ISBL, BSL, ACB, BBL, VTB, KBL, PBA, NBL, etc... There's so many to choose from.
A lot of NBA fans including myself were surprised that Mirotic chose to go back to Europe after having a successful time as a volume shooting PF in the NBA. He would have probably earned 15 million a season or possibly more (considering Duncan Robinson is paid 18m for being a 3-point specialist) if he'd stayed in the NBA and had an important role on many teams. However, he gets to be the highest paid player in Europe, play for and live in Barcelona as opposed to some random city in the US and be a superstar rather than an important role player and I can understand why he chose to go back.
Those are the one of the reasons for Mirotic, but he discovered later that the main reason was that he was feeling alone and away from family. You have YT videos about him.
@@m4n4sn66 That makes sense. Although I can't help but think he'd have been good enough and rich enough to accommodate having his family relocate to the US if he'd stayed in the NBA.
@@eatasandwich337 his family may have not wanted to move, from experience older folk will refuse to leave where they’ve been for generations regardless of money or another location
@@toogud7918 I was thinking more of his wife and kid because I assume the rest of his family are back in Montenegro anyways. Although it's certainly a shorter travel time from Spain to Montenegro than it is from the US.
@@eatasandwich337 why do you know where his parents live bro? Stop meat riding go get a job
For me, i will go to europe, for the money, competition and passion. Euroleague games are treated like a finals game every time. In the nba there are a lot of non bearing games
You dont have the competitive edge and desire to want to be the best and thats ok, I respect that
If we are speaking about American guys, it is a hard sell. Most of them can compare Euroleague, Eurocup, Europa league, Chinese league, Australian league etc. Everything is over seas for them. Saying that you are a bench guy in the NBA has way bigger social value than saying that you are star in Serbia or Turkey.
Euroleague atmosphere is overrated, only fans of few teams (panathinaikos, olympiacos, maccabi, fenerbahce, crvena zvezda) create amazing atmosphere and on extremely important matches only.
@@ignaszvirblis8204 still is better than american - "dEfEnCe"!!
@@mkmajuska8487 Doesn't matter. As a Balkan person, Euroleague games rely too much on coaching and some players do not even have slightly correct fundamentals of shooting and footwork for example. They are nowhere as skilled EUroleague is boring
This did not feel like a 6 minute video. It's so well-done. This deserves more views.
Thank you!
agreed
Some examples of NBA bench warmers who became legends in Europe...Stojko Vrankovic, Antony Parker,
Juan Carlos Navarro, David Rivers, Nick Calathes and Vasilis Spanoulis. It's not just about the money, it's what you give back to the fans. Players like Boban Marjanovic could have come back to play in the Euroleague.
How is Juan Carlos a bench warmer, he made all rookie second team in his only season and started half of the games
Navarro has never been a bench warmer, his first and only season was great.
Parker was a Solis starter in the Raptors. Navarro would have made a top 3 sixth man in NBA. He was all rookie team. However he didn't like the life in US. Those weren't bench warmers
@@katrinaarokiam8183 that's correct ... Parker was a solid starter for the Raptors. This was off the back of his Euroleague success with Macabbi. When Parker first got drafted in the NBA, he didn't get a lot of minutes playing for Philadelphia and Orlando and had to battle through injury. That's when he decided to try out his luck in Europe and eventually became a Euroleague legend.
@@liraymond96 ...yes, Juan Carlos made the all rookie second team but did he consider this a success? There's an article that writes "Despite his accomplishments and progress through his inaugural season, Navarro played for the NBA’s third-worst team and he received inconsistent minutes throughout the season - one game he would start, the next he would come off the bench. The combination of these factors more than likely played a role in his departure." In an interview with Intereconomia, Navarro said "there was a series of circumstances that did not make me feel at ease. The team was bad, the language was a barrier and my family, my girls were not comfortable. So when I had the option of returning to my team life, earning headlines again, and to be important, not waste it. If it had fallen on another team that would have been better, Playoffs, everything might have been different. I do not regret having gone, but not to be back."
I really miss the Euroleague/NBA match ups we need more. Or team europe vs team usa, would be awesome.
Wesley Johnson (former 4th overall pick) might have performed worse than Stauskas, though anyone barely remembers him (because most of the attention went to Jimmer Fredette on that roster). At the age of 32~ he played for PAO with an average of 3pts 2.5rbs and 3.3 EFF.
Yes, that's a good one. Wesley Johnson's project didn't work out in Europe.
The biggest advantage in NBA is earning potential. As a benchwarmer in the NBA, yes you'd maybe make less, but if you can develop and earn your spot in an NBA rotation, your earning potential skyrockets. There are tons of benchwarmers who got shots for significant play time and then got huge paydays that go well well beyond Euroleague's top salaries. FRED Vanvleet, Jeremy Lin, Lance Stephenson and Duncan Robinson are just a few examples, but there are so many. In Euroleague your earning potential is capped around $5 million per year, no matter how great you play.
I'd also add that NBA you have potential for a much higher potential for media attention and potential for lucrative sponsorship opportunities, access to generally better facilities and other perks of being in the NBA like team sponsorships and team staff support. I don't know too much of the Euroleague lifestyle, but I'm assuming basketball professional do not garner nearly as much recognition or have as many perks as NBA players.
Once again, this is just potential opportunity, obviously if you never end up cracking a rotation it's probably worse financially than being a Euroleague star, but simply having the opportunity to crack a rotation and have massive on the court and off the court earning potential would make it well worth sticking in the NBA.
Well said. Every little thing you said holds so much truth. Earning potential is skyrocketed when you’re more marketable/flashy enough to be put on a poster. That shoe/poster endorsement money is REAL
You are very right, in Europe football holds the primary sport and most of the big sponsorships get taken by football players. Its very hard for basketball players to market themselves when 90% of the Europe population have football as their primary interest.
I actually think you're wrong on the sponsorships. Being a star in euroleague will get more sponsors than a rotation NBA player even if the NBA player makes double from basketball
in Europe the taxes are paid by the team but in the US by the player
Yup!
@Kobe Fanforever idk about football but in European basketball the taxes are paid by the teams
@Kobe Fanforever what do you mean with an image tax?
@@adamcarrillo209 to pay less taxes you make a contract for both the team and the “image” of the player, in the meaning you pay him as an actor of an advertisement. But it’s messy and risky.
@@MichelePonte u r wrong my friend...nothing messy,nothing risky....a player does some "shooting"(advertise) maybe for the euroleague,its kind of an obligetion for the player,every player of any team playing...on the contrary we dont treat players as products and with no respect..in NBA a player might be traded all year long...in Europe the contracts are on,you play or stay on the bench till you win ur spot in the court....no traveling around a "chaotic", in size, State,with a suitcase at your hands...u r "burning" lot of good players AND U PLAY NO DEFENCE UNTIL THE PLAY-OFFS...haha..Here as the slogan says...EVERY GAME MATTERS...Euroleague or national league,the competitive players like that...Panathinaikos☘💚 submit Europe...Celtics☘💚 will submit your league...everywhere u look,u see this☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘ ☘💚
Also, with most of the top players in Europe, they are provided with a house by the team, and a car. In the Nba, you're on your own.
Good point!
When you’re making 30-50 million a year you don’t need the team to provide a house or car for you…nice try though 🤡
@@thewhitedevilfromthebible5899 this video and comment is about benchwarmers making $1-3 million, not superstars making $30-50 million plus endorsements. Considering the cost of living in the US, buying a house or car that you wouldn't use much due to the NBA grind may be hard to justify. Nice try though.
“ bench warmers “ in the nba make between 3-5 million on the lower end and 8-15 on the high end . Nice try though..again
Ever heard of Pat Beverley he worked his ass off in euroleague in order to become valuable in wherever nba teams he came to
PJ Tucker grinded his way to the NBA and played for several teams in Europe!
Will Bynum, Anthony Parker, and Ja’Sean Tate
Gerald Green won a slam dunk contest not only in NBA, but also in Russia, earning him an electric kettle as a prize. Returned to NBA and became a reasonably helpful 3-and-dunk guy. Watching his highlights for Nets, Suns and Rockets one could mistake him for an all-star.
Mike James is the best example to your inquiry.He makes about 2M $ and he is the star of a very promising team.
Nets were paying him less and he was mainly a benchwarmer.
Thanasis on the other hand couldn't be a starting 5 on any euroleague team.
Let's see what happens to Tyler Dorsey.
He could sign for 1.5M $, but prefered Dallas instead..I see him back in Europe next season
Thanasis could definitely be a starting 5 in the Euroleague. Not the best team but definitely out there
@@spermwhale8236 he played for Panathinaikos for 2 years and he didn't show much.Around 12 mins, 4pts, 2 rebs.Mostly played when behind the score and team needed solid defense,but he would easily give a foul,so he wouldnt last more than 10 mins
Thanasis played in Europe and he was an average player
Mike James had the superstar mentality from the beginning of his career so he wouldn’t accept anything lower than that . Navarro and Spanoulis could be role players but they had the same mentality..Mirotic as well. And the decision is easy between living in Dallas, Memphis and any other random US city or Barcelona and Athens.
@@pepper696867 we all know why thansis is on an NBA roster he’s easily the worst player in the nba. But nba teams are willing to giving up a roster spot if it puts someone like Gianni’s at ease and better mentally for big games.
PJ Tucker played for several teams in Europe and grinded his way to the NBA!
Yup, his journey is amazing
Pat Beverley as well
I would rather sit on the nba bench because it's super hard to get back into the nba. If you in the nba at the end you might sit on the bench for now but if you ball out and earn more minutes it's gonna pay out in the longer run. You can still go to europe if your role doesn't change
A lot of truth in your words
It all depends on team development after that. The Warriors are great at this. Most know that if they come there and continue to grow, they will increase their value and if the Warriors decide not to keep them, they still have a shot to make good money on another team. Gary Payton is a great example of this.
I'd go with Euroleague without a doubt. I've been on euroleague games so I know how amazing it is and how much passion and love to this sport is here.
Stop with the lies, we all know everyone who says they’ll choose the euro league will accept the NBA if they have the chance even if it’s a benchwarmer role.
@@ChorizoFungis u think so bc u don t have the european mentality
@@bamb8s436 the europeans mentality 🤣 Nigga what?
@@ChorizoFungis in other words serious team basketball
@@bamb8s436 nah G, that’s just regular basketball mentality
Nice video and good work you have done, but remember you had your review based on salaries that are completely different in each European country... For example Greece up to 2010 had alot of good American players and the presidents of the teams were giving alot of money, but about then Greece went in financial crisis and up until now still is.. the Taxes from about 10-15% have risen to 40% and teams give extra in the contract a house , car etc etc, this is done this way for tax reasons (i am from Greece and i know that). In the contract maybe a player gets 1-2 mil. per year but they get extra a signing bonus, which could be alot of money, those money dont have the same percentage of tax because are considered as bonus and they pay much less there..so even the salaries that you found are not the money that a team has to give to have a player.. If you look in Turkey if i remember well the tax is about 15% on everything, so they dont have to risk a big bonus and then have a player that has taken tons of money on bonus-signing fee and doesnt play well, most of money is in contract so if someone is sold you dont have so many expenses ... OF COURSE your video was about the players income not the teams expenses but what i meant is about the same with taxes and salaries is the same in many countries in europe ...Most countries maybe have the same currency the euro but taxes and way things work are completely different..Thanasis Antetokoymbo used to play for Panathinaikos before he came to NBA and really was a superstar... Do you know that his family didnt have alot of money when they first came from Africa and Thanasis was given to another family to grow up??because his family was very poor, thats why you can find videos saying that Giannis many times used to sleep in the stadium this is truth 100%...
best regards from Greece sorry about my english , hope you understand what i was saying!!lol
Thank you for your feedback. That's why we report EuroLeague net salaries, as taxing in Europe differs drastically from country to country.
Great video, very insightful and very well presented. Definitely needs more views!
Thanks a lot!
LOVED the editing!
Appreciate that! ❤️
Taking into account the living costs of the US I would say that the gap widens even more
True!
Cheaper in Europe?
@@fresnoniiji no europe is more expensive
@@fresnoniiji Depends on which team you'd go to and which two places you'd compare. As with the US there are places that are very cheap, but also very expensive. Even in one state you can find a place that offers the same as another but costs twice as much.
Out of the 18 clubs that played in the EuroLeague last season, ONLY ONE is situated in a place that's MORE EXPENSIVE THAN LA, and that's AS Monaco. From the rest, you have Munich ( with Bayern Munich as their team ) as the next most expensive and even then, it's 10-15% more expensive than Memphis or Milwaukee which are in the top 10 least expensive cities to live in that have an NBA team. Rest are nowhere near as close to Munich, let alone any town in Monaco, and that's a list that includes places like Barcelona, Madrid, Lyon and Berlin.
@@yamaniyoussef no way.. they give you the car and the house in Europe.. i don't think the Nba teams give you same things
It also matters in which team you are. For example, you can be sthing like Bjelica and play for a title conteder and sacrifice some minutes or you can be a bench in a lottery team like Sacramento,Orlando, Detroit or OKC. I am not sure these teams are better than top 4 teams in the Euroleague like Anadolu, Barca,Real or Olympiacos. That is why in cases like Micic and Vezenkov, better stay put one more year and be a star in Europe instead of being part of organization where your role might not be certian
Thank you for your take
Not sure about detroit or orlando, but sacramento and an okc who is actually trying to compete are most definitely better than the top euroleage teams.
@@kumorizora2507 OKC still young imo. Sacramento for the last decade and more only competes for NBA draft lottery and still disappoints. If we play by FIBA rules, I am favoring Top Euroleague teams. Especially seeing Barcelona and Real rosters now, I am more convinced that they are better .
@@rosenvasilev4219 Doesn't matter what the franchise has done in the past, the current kings roster has domantas sabonis and De'aaron fox. They a not losing to a euroleague team with those 2 playing.
Okc might be young but as i said when the actually tried and didnt make up injuries for their top guys so they could tank again, they were playing .500 basketball.
@@kumorizora2507 lmao Sacramento one of the best teams rn
Done both and was way more successfully in the Premerier League and really liked the Euro game as it better suited my playing style at the time - (Stretch 4) 1996-2004 NBA was a Brutt league and was not a Bully Baller! Also enjoyed living in the different countreis in Western Euro as well as a few in the eastern Block
Great video! Please do a comparison between NBA benchwarmers/past-their-prime stars and the Asian leagues. That seems to be a popular route and I always wondered why they chose to go far east instead of Europe.
The main difference is the structure and environment around the team: in Europe in most cases we have worst gyms and teams are less equipped and with less staff than in the NBA, but living here gives you the best food and culture you can get on the entire planet!
The food and culture have no allure to Africa America players. They don't want to play in Charlotte and New Orleans(both amazing cities btw) so they are certainly not going to want to play in Greece or Lithuania.
“Best food and culture” k lol
The way you described the differences between NBA & EuroLeague fans proves I'd fit with the EL fans far better than I ever would NBA fans, as that's pretty much my go to as well with NBA teams and players.
I used to have a theory that a good salary is when its equal the PPG (and then i realize it only works for 8-18ppg
(Assuming the guy only good at scoring and maybe some defense(dont say CP3))
Unless it's really about you wanting to play, financially, it pays to hang around in NBA for as long as you can.. as a veteran you qualify for a lot more money, even on a bench.. satoransky had 10 mil a season either this last year or a season before that.. even if you just keep half of it, how long would you have to be earning that in Europe? Also, NBA has retirement package if I'm correct. That might be a topic for another video.
You forgot one important thing. If you make the leap from bench warmer to role player and stay in the league for 8 or 10 years you will make way way more money in the NBA. Play solid defense and hit open jumpers and in half a decade you're making $7M a year. Going to Europe is basically conceding that you will never be anything in the NBA. That or you're hoping the extra playing time in Europe will up your game and get you back to the Association. That's why most Americans that play abroad have washed out of the league. They tried and failed to make it and now they just need a paycheck.
I actually did say at the end of the video that staying in the NBA could potentially lead you to become a role player. Thank you for your take though!
So basically, Luka became a star in the euro league when he was flipping 16 😯😯…
Well at 16 he only started to get some minutes, but at 18, he was already the MVP.
@@jangregorc9408 Yup, at 17-18 he started to dominate. Still insane though!
Being a Belgian soccer fan if a 16 year old gets subbed on everyone pays attention because it's likely that kid will be the best player on the field at that moment and if not, at least the highest future potential.
Get subbed on at 16-17, play regularaly at 17-19, get a big money(20-35 million) move before 20.
My grandfather was in the game Kevin De Bruyne was subbed on and detroyed the team he supported when he was 17. That was the game that likely drew interest from every big team in Europe.
Great vid
Thanks!
You should have mentioned also that Euroleague has way less games per season than NBA, thats also matters, so that means you will get paid "abit more" per game than in the NBA.
Dont forget that euroleage teams play in their national league every weekend too
@@mafiawarsG7 Yup, national leagues games add up, especially with playoffs where EuroLeague teams almost always compete for the championship
Add the local federation cups onto
Another factor: if you play 3 years in the NBA, you can obtain a NBA pension and getting the maximum benefit if you play for 10 years.
Good point.
As young and promising, i would always try to get into the nba rotation. You go to Europe or China there is mostly no way back.
You have more chances by starting in Europe in a young age....
NBA isn't even scouting like they used to they just searching complete players from Europe right now if you start in the NBA and then go to Europe then there is no way back but if you start in Europe and end in the NBA you will have the experience and a good biography
Antony Parker, PJ Tucker, Tyler Dorsey are some examples that made it back into the NBA.
@@alexo5303 Yeah rare exceptions. Once you enter the league and don't show up and get cut from the league then your nba career is pretty much over
It is like 2 different playstyles in europe everyone is there in the moment and in the team with alot of players passing meanwhile in the nba you have to be good at playmaking but also have a way stronger ability to play more like a solo player that and in europe u get money from the team and in the nba most of the money comes from endorsments exept if your a bench warmer that and nba salaries tend to be higher because of the higher physical demand and mental demand because 82 games+playoffs and preseason is alot of games compared to europes 34 and max 5 in playoffs with 2 games max for final four
No u get wrong in Euroleague team play 34 games + playoffs, and you play in that country league for example Spanish basketball league (Liga ACB) you play 36 games there and playoffs so you get about 90 games per some or even more if you reach finals
@@arunas1204 ok i didnt know that since i dont watch euroleague
@@codytheclonetrooper4002 you have NBA all star game in USA, and europeans have in domestic league tournaments for example we have in Lithuania king Mindaugas tournament so its basically added like 8-10 games more
You're missing one important factor in all of this. Duration. I mean, yeah, a benchwarmer in the NBA might make 1.5M a year but for how long? If it were me, and I'd make it in Europe, I'd prefer a 1M a year over 10-15 years from 1.5M over 2 or 3 years and have the uncertainty of being cut every fall... or end up in the G-League...
I wish more Americans rooted for Euroleague to be bigger. It would be better for basketball as a whole and believe while the talent is inferior to the NBA and always will be, I believe it can still be more popular in Europe and can attract really good NBA level talent like in football, where great talent is spread across several leagues.
I actually think it would be good for a lot of end of the bench guys in the NBA to try to get spots in European teams than the G-League.
if anyone knows where he got that shaq bobblehead i need a link i need big head shaq
I dunno man, the Jared Dudley gig seemed pretty good to me 😂
😂
Euro :) don't forget the real basket is in euro played :) team basket :)
Lmao the Shved slander. Idk why but I was really rooting for this guy when he was with the Wolves and eventually thrived with a tanking Knicks
About the adaptation NBA>Europe, we would also consider that players comes from NCAA. From here, they need to adapt to NBA or to NCAA. But NCAA is closer to Europe than NBA somehow. For NCAA undrafted elite players or second rond draft, or for some bench players hwo have spent few years in NBA and for who NCAA wasn't so far, it could be more interesting to go to Euroleague or Europe Cup.
The question is for players who have to choose beetween draft and europe teams not qualified for Euroleague.
Many countries team gives apartment and car for player during their stay and for player outside of eu many times no taxes if you stay in country less than 6 month a year. Of course some countries they forget to pay couple of months salary at end.
Great video.
I definitely think Euro League star is better than NBA bench warmer.
In Euroleague a player with 9mjns if they are kmportnat can be one of the very good or best players.
SERBIA , GRECE and TURKEY / fucking best fans in the world total in all sports especially in basket.
It strongly depends. Not every US benchwarmer can be a starter in a top european team. Being generally bigger, faster and jumping higher helps, but won't make wonders in a slower and more team oriented game. On the other hand - many european key players ended up being average catch and shoot dummies because they could'nt bulk up and adapt to a faster and more physical game. For me being important is slightly more than being well paid. But I can see it is a hard decision since you may not get another chance in US.
More physical in the NBA? Nope
True
Bad take
@@tomykas1 it litterally is that's why team usa dominates every year
20 years ago nba players were getting 300 per diem everyday, for games and team practices. That alone is enough, starter or bench warmer. Who knows what they get now.
It is all about your fit to the Euroleague game vs NBA. I'll argue that even NBA stars can fail in Europe. A guy like Russel Westbrook, even in his prime, would not be considered a top EL player, damn outside of Russia and Monaco I can't imagine him completing an entire season in the Euroleague without fans booing him away mid-season.
Also a guy like Joe Ingles, who was a role player in EL at best, got a significantly larger role in the NBA.
A border line NBA player should choose the environment that fits his style more.
What the... Have you watched prime Westbrook? He will eat your euroleague alive
@@jerdansamagbisit547 I watch him closely, but stats padding is not appreciated in EL no matter how big is your talent. Westbrook cares about his contract 10 times more than he cares about the team. I can't imagine him doing something like this in Turkey/Greece, damn ven in Israel or Spain the crowd will make him miserable and demand to not give him minutes.
@@jerdansamagbisit547 it's about fit. Someone like Lebron would still be a star in Euroleague because of his adaptability. We can see that with Dominique Wilkins. Someone like Westbrook isn't going to get 30 minutes/game solely from coach preference.
Yeah, in a league where Anthony Parker was one of the better players no way PRIME westbrook could be a star.
Prime mj would struggle too, same with shaq. They would do better than westbrook ofc, but still they would just be solid role players - no way stars like mighty larkin. In euroleague you need more than being strong or athletic. It’s about tactics after all.
I’d say that 2017 fenerbache would give a good series to 2017 warriors. Gsw would struggle against good coached euroleague defense
@@bobobububu casual🤦♂️
Westbrook was unstoppable at his prime you're just brainwashed by the narratives of the NBA media today
I didn't watch all of it but let's not forget basketball is not that popular in Europe, like NBA is in USA. Football is popular and you can tell by their salaries
Is really hard to judge.
the player needs to judge is playing time and the option he has in the nba before thinking in moving out.
get in the NBA is already super hard, if you have a chance to stay in a team for lets say 5 years so it is usually easier as safe to stay. But if you feel like the window is about to close soon, like being in the bench with 5 mins of garbadge time and no one is noticing your stats, then just take a risk.
reminder, Euroleague is a mens league! They play hard, is not like any benchwarmer in the nba would be a star. There is a few cases of success but most of the times the player needs to adapt to the culture, the league, the low press coverage... is hard! Specialy if the players wants to get those inflated numbers to get back to the nba.
Great take!
Patrick Beverley was a bench warmer in the Euroleague and then reached a pick to be considered top 5 defender in the NBA 😅
I am a european so i probably would play in europe its just the crazy passion to the game
Good analysis. As an agent who works with pro players in Europe I’d say they the potential earnings is a big factor. If you’re on a minimum contract in the NBA you have the ability to play your way onto an 8 or even 9 figure deal. It’s also possible to earn that kind of money as a role player in the NBA whilst in Europe you’ve got to be a go-to-guy which doesn’t mesh with most players games.
Is it hard to go from EuroLeague to the NBA?
People don’t realize that playing pro ball anywhere is amazing, you get to do what you love for a living
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I'd try my best getting more playing time in the nba
more playing time would be the deciding factor for me
Yogi Farrell plays for Cedevita Olimpija and is a star
I thunk people should remember euroleague isnt free succes for any nba players. Its still the second largest and best basketball lesgue
For sure!
Why didn’t u do the tax rate for euro players as well
Juan Carlos Navarro se fue a memphis por bastante menos de lo que le pagaban en barcelona, lo dijo el mismo
Did you assume for the statement "Euro star earned twice as much as NBA bench warmer" that you pay almost no taxes in Europe? Probably a similar amount as in the US
Miloš Teodosić
Came late into the NBA
Because he got payed more by CSKA Moscow 5,8 for playing average that year.
Yes he had great sessions behind him, but only average before signing.
I will try my chance in Euroleague and become the star
Yeah but he brings a ton of energy that gets the guys going
If I’m in that position I’m going for the bag regardless
Hey - Basketball News - You forgot the most important fact between NBA and Euro league basketball. In the euro league the clubs pay the taxes on the salaries, but in the NBA the tax burden is on the players. Therefore in the euro league you get to keep your whole salary.
This thumb nail went crazy so I had to click on the video
Totally depends on where I'm playing in the Euroleague. I'm not playing in Instanbul or Belgrade but would love to play in Italy or Greece.
Why not in Istanbul or Belgrade?
@@BasketNews_com two of the 10 cities in the entire world that are publicly run by organized crime
@@BasketNews_com I'm just making things up. Hahaha. I really don't know much about either location. I just think Italy would be a lot nicer place to live and play! China is also supposed to be amazing for basketball players. They cheer for both teams and don't boo players. They just love that the players are there entertaining them.
People think European cities are boring and not like Paris or London, but many of them even the ones you don’t know are arguably even better than like most American cities.
I get tired of people/ especially these entitled players always choosing LA, which is a SHIT city with a traffic and homeless problem and make it seem it’s a world city. ITS not LMAO.
I tell you I would take Prague and many European capitals over LA with its overhyped Hollywood sign and full of prententious fake people who want to sell their souls for fame.
All these players and fans always say about LA is it’s about the weather and the hot girls, but I can find that everywhere in Europe and America; especially those guys who will get beautiful women thrown at them wherever they go.
That’s why feel annoyed seeing good franchises like the Pacers, Jazz, and Blazers out winning products consistently each season even if they are rebuilding, but these star players, who claim they want to win, choose lifestyle over winning teams unlike in Europe, where players in football, choose passion and history of a club over the superficial ness of these NBA players.
I tell you if Euroleague had NBA superstars, it is the better league than the NBA. NBA is just lucky all the talent is there so they can get away with the brand of baskwtball.
And I love the NBA and baskwtball is my favorite sport so it’s my favorite league, but these things are things I don’t like, and compare it to football, NBA can be better being more about passion and history than superficial ness and caring about who is the GOAT player.
The reality is that they won't play for Europe teams unless they play for a national team
Euroleague for me as a football/Manchester United fan. Passion in Europe is intense probably second if not equal to south america plus you have more chance to win trophy since there's domestic league/cup and Euroleague/cup
Actually he (Thanassis) SHOULD be in Europe because he could probably be a solid wing like Derrick Williams lol
NBA IS A DREAM
He was a benchwarmer in europe too
Jared Dudley rode that Lakers bench so well.
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Do European basketball players not pay tax? If the contract says 3M they will get 3M?
I would rather PLAY. Europe is a nice change of pace from america as well. If you explode in the Euro league, maybe you can come back
You showed sales tax in your US tax graphic, not income tax...
Yes..
NBA. It’s harder to make in the NBA than in Europe. I would want to prove myself against the best players and those players are in the NBA. I mean a bench warmer in the NBA can be a starter in Europe tells you lot about the talent in both leagues. If you want to prove your talents then it the NBA if you care more about an easy life style and have them pay everything for you but not play against the best then go to Europe!
Who starts to play basketball with dream about warming the bench one nice day in NBA❓❓❓
Nick Stouskas
Also I would rather go in Europe
Europe all day than warm the bench all year in the nba. Aside from basketball I can go to many beautiful european countries, i can watch football games live.
Maybe I’m trippin but did you not forgot the taxes on the el salaries
I just feel more Americans should want European/international basketball leagues to be better for the sake of the game.
Truth is football is king in the world and lots of that is that it is popular in almost every continent even North America in Mexico.
Basketball may never reach the popularity of football worldwide, but I think it can be much closer than other sports. American football will always be an American thing and baseball is almost the same outside a few countries.
Baskwtball already has a good following in Europe even in big football countries.
I feel like the European leagues should invest more money into the sport and bring it lore coverage.
I also believe America should help European/foreign leagues and help bring talent there.
I honestly think NBA/ Foreign leagues should try to model the player market like in football. It wouldn’t be like transfers or signings, but I believe NBA should open the trade market to European teams.
I don’t know if this is possible or if NBA would agree with it, but if an NBA team wants a player there, they can offer some compensation and maybe a young player who hasn’t gone much playing time in exchange for a player like Micic or Musa in Madrid.
Again don’t think NBA teams would want to do it and players might not agree wanting to get traded to Europe or even outside Europe, but if they are an end of the Bench guy that most likely won’t get time, I believe Euroleague would be so much better than even the G-League.
Also if a player doesn’t want to play for a European team, they can’t o the buyout thing like in the NBA and give that money for the European club. Hope this kind of make sense.
there is also some other ways to make big money as basketball player, - China for example
The only downside is lack of competition, although you could say a benchwarmer doesn't really get to compete at all 😅
@@BasketNews_com Must to agree, but in other side - there are not so much teams for all good players in both EL and NBA. Players have 2-3-5 year contracts, are adapted in team sistems etc, so such places as China - is good place to be basketball player, at least in financial aspect.
Euro league goes hard, can you watch games live in the US?
Yes, you can, at EuroLeague.tv
Does it really matter where any of these guys play? Literally in any market, they are making 10-1000 times what an average person makes. If a person made $50k/year playing professional ball in Guatemala, they could live 4 times as well as an average Guatemalan, and still save at least $2k every month... It feels to me, like if a guy did that for 20 years, and went down in the Guatemalan record books, he will still be doing just fine financially, by any measure used in the world, having never even played in a major league, and he's probably not even 40 yet.
People don't pay taxes in Europe?
What you don't understand is that a benchwarmer in the NBA will still be a benchwarmer in EL or even a very important role player in the NBA could be a benchwarmer in EL. Let me give you an example, Thanasis Antetokounmpo had the exact same role maybe 2-3 mins more in Panathinaikos but less money. Another example is Mario Hezonjia who left his starting five role in the NBA to become quite useless in europe .You Americans underestimate European basketball so much, no wonder why you didn't even reach the finals in the world cup.
Ignorant as hell thinking mario hezonjia was ever a decent player at the nba level. Dude isn't in the league because he sucked, plain and simple.
well if you average 30 points in the EuroLeague you can be a solid role player in the NBA so it works out.
Unfortunately this "basketball math" doesn't always work in reality. Spanoulis, Navarro & Saras are great examples of that 🤷
I dont remember anyone average 30 points
Doncic was not averaging 30
If u average 30 in euroleague then u will be a star in nba...i dont remember somebody except Nick Galis that could put those numbers
It's really the same money cuz taxes different in some states
You cant compare the money... The market is ALOT bigger in the US!!!
Its basically a question of do you want to be famous+money or just money+people ever heard ur name
I thought that was stephen curry and giannis in the thumbnail 😂
Technically don’t those players play in the local leagues and the clubs that qualify for the Euroleague? Similar to the Champions League in football/soccer
Yes, they also play in the local leagues, but only a few winners of local leagues qualify for the EuroLeague. It's a closed league, where most of its teams have licenses and only a few clubs can get there through EuroCup (a second-tier competition, like the Europe League in football) or local leagues
@@BasketNews_com true. but why don’t they have the qualification system like football? It makes it more interesting imo
@@ssk-_-dotz3773 It is ULEB tournament. Commercial stuff. Teams are included by many aspects - as financial situation, fanbase, infrostructure and many others. In two words - its moneybug`s tournament. If it would be a systematized FIBA tournament, then there would be a lot of shitty games for weak teams from countries where there is little interest in basketball, or too many teams from strong national tournaments, which is also not so interesting for other countries, and in total it would not carry such the commercial success that the Euroleague has now in the form like it has now.
@@drobiIIka thanks for explaining! I don’t follow Euroleague that much lol and this made me understand it better
Before finishing video: probably not, because eurobasket is not as much money-driven as the nba. Also I personally would rather play in Europe to have a shot for the World Championship instead of just playing in "the Best league in the world" for just a domestic nba championship. World Cup seems bigger to me as it's about the whole World
Guys you have said it your selfs , nba from euroleague basket are two different sports .
You've forgotten the experience of players came from the nba bench
Would definitely go to Europe. If anything just to get out of the USA…. It’s screwed up over there
bench like winning the lottery every year
The euro league is more team oriented
The NBA bench going to Europe to play, will still have to pay federal and state taxes plus which ever Country in Europe tax.