This is a big eye opener for me. Really reminds me of playing project reality where it depends on teamwork and such. This is totally going on my bucket list. Hope to be on their field in a couple years!
I commend these guys for trying to take airsoft/milsim to the next level. 40 hours is rough. I did a blacksheep for 24 hours straight, no sleeping, and I was wiped. (Well, okay, I only made it to about 16 hours)
How are the blank firing rifles incorporated into the game. I know it adds a huge sense of realisms, but how does it affect the actual gameplay? How do they kill people?
Sam Thistlewood In observing this firsthand during the event, the honor system is still very much in effect to make this work, but over and above that, calling your hit from blank fire round requires the player to incorporate the element of 'live action role playing" (AKA LARPing) when he or she suspects that someone with a blank fire rifle is shooting at them. I've witnessed shooters have to call out to another enemy player close by to alert them that he has been shooting at them, at which point the player acknowledged, and I didn't suspect any cheating. I think it was a situation where they just didn't realize it with everything else going on (it was a crazy firefight). Having the blank fire rifles in game really added an awesome effect to the immersion factor. Very cool to hear those shots going off rather than just hearing a bunch of AEGs going at it. - Tom
A tip is get a mountain backpack and put your assault pack (empty) in there and also the things you are going to put in the assault pack and once you get the assault pack out you fill it
Since I can't reply to @MrVLeAsian for some reason, here's an answer for him and anyone else who asks the following question: >I don't think I've ever found a clear answer to this question. Would the Krytac LMG be allowed as an LMG since it's not necessarily "belt-fed"? The answer: No. A member of my fireteam at RtR wanted to run his, but he was turned down. Keep in mind: Your overglorified AR that takes SAW box mags isn't a LMG, nor is it milsim. If you wanted to play gunner, you should've gotten a proper SAW.
No, But you can use it with the local militia. it would be considered a mag fed rifle. Only belt fed area LMG. SAW/ 249, 240 type, RPK, etc etc and maybe MINI gun if they allow you to mount it to vehicle.
"You'll have to listen to my feelings" ...I get to be carried, naked, by a strong, manly man, and he even tells me how he feels? Fuck yeah, sign me up!
Mann if I ever get to the states on a vacation I wanne join this... We dont have milsim at this level here in Denmark.. Does anyone know if there's a way to like rent a set for a weekend... Im a former sergeant so I do have some experience but this seriously is looking so cool..
Well, normally if you travel to the US for airsoft especially one like Milsim West, you sleep and eat on the battlefield. From the research I've done, Im pretty sure they give you a living quarters, but if you plan on doing things other than airsoft, I suggest you get a hotel in the vicinity of the area as well.
N.Y.R.M. had a 72 hour weekend event..... However I understand that no radio comms nor your not allowed to bring your own ammo. The ammo policy I can understand..... but only leaders can have radios can make operations hectic.
+Mason Kelly you're more than entitled to your views and opinions. however due to the fact that the feel that I own is over 600 plus acres it's a matter of safety for the participants. to each his own
NYRM1974 I'm not angry at you just thinking of how chaotic it is. You are never very far from your squad leader at these events so they will have a radio anyway.
So if I want to join and want to have a sniper rifle and not talk on my radio all day because I saw jet and noveritch (butchered that name) sniping together in a game so I'm a bit confused
You’d have to have a realistic unit to copy an impression off of, and would have to have at least nine people to form a squad together. If you have that you still have to get it approved by MSW cadre. Last December at Guardian it was allowed for Rusfor to have a whole FSB platoon to run modern kit with multicam uniforms. The stipulations were those in that platoon had to wear multiple high vis IFF bands.
+rose nononono depends on how you decide to do it. and how much you bring, if you decide that your shooting a shit ton, bring multiple FULL cans, carry 1 in your Ruck, leave the others with your COC, and when your Squad Leader and Platoon Leader Call for Resupply, make sure to give them Notice that you need Blanks.
Renting for a Milsim sounds like a terrible idea. You will want to be comfortable and well versed in your equipment way before you step foot in the events.
In the TACSOP, there's a rule saying: "Don't "game" the event, go with the flow and enjoy the experience". Can someone explain that rule in a little more detail?
Wrim's Airsoft I believe that means, Don't be a D Bag and exploit any Gamesmanship BS. You know, the kind of stuff you see people doing at other events like pushing the rules to their absolute limit and saying, "Well the rules didn't say I couldn't this very specific thing that no one else in their right mind would have done." It means, have fun with it and experience the game to a full level of immersion and enjoy it. MSW isn't like any other MilSim or airsoft event out there, so why would you want to ruin it and turn it into yet another John Lu event? These are just my thoughts on this rule, but I bet if Josh or any of the other guys were to read this, their answer would be similar. Well, maybe minus the John Lu reference.
How old do you have to be I’m 11 and really want to do a milsim but think that I’m not going to be allowed because I never see kids in any videos on youtube of milsims
Hey if anybody could shed so,e light on this subject, i have a famas cybergun and an m4 that is broken. I would like to know which side if any would the famas be an appropriate primary to use in a milsim, if anybody can help that would be very appreciated
26th North Carolina Will Its a custom full metal functional replica of the sci-fi weapon from the second aliens movie, lol what do you mean the french use it? hahah
secretagentnight RUSFOR can use any Russian-issue camo, REGFOR is limited to OD/Woodland, NATO can use multicam or UCP. You can use other NATO camo (like CADPAT), but only if you find another few guys with the same camo and squad up. For example, *Jump to Crimea* had an Australian themed squad running around.
+Ionut Carabina for example if you come with an urban ERDL and a Chinese type97 (or other uncommon gun) and 'weird' shit like that , not really helpfull in milsims , just use gear like that in 5-7 gours games ^^
Sasha Goncharov why is 6+ allowed in airsoft ? in hungary thankfully they are not. not even with parents. 16+ is allowed with permission but they are so immature but very few on milsim. why is this a thing in usa ?
How do you make sure everyone is using the right weapons/ wearing the right bdus? Do you buy them there or are you expected to have your own? I really want to do one of these but I'm in Oregon and have no friends who share this interest.... need more info
collinfuerst1 both no for rusfor it's ak47 or any Russian airsoft gun or for nato it's I think m16 is allowed but not too sure and they don't supply stuff
14 yr old, can I play? Also are you allowed a clear gun, I have a gun with polymer stock and grips but the main body of the gun is clear plastic, I will spray paint it if I have to, also if your on the rebel or insurgent teams can what do you wear? A balaclava and some camo pants with a light rig or something?
Clear guns are not allowed and your gonna need a better gun. I'm assuming it's a springer or an lpaeg (low power airsoft electric gun) and both of those would be outclassed by normal airsoft guns
Man so I can't use my FAL if I'm Russian, or even my tiger stripe BDU's that sucks, but god damn I want to be in a milsim west event so badly, they look so friggin awesome
+DeathNote Airsoft Go with the Regional Forces (Insurgents, terrorists, civilians) Which is basicaly AK, FAL, Galil - all those old cold war to gulf war era weapons. No tactical gear
This is a big eye opener for me. Really reminds me of playing project reality where it depends on teamwork and such. This is totally going on my bucket list. Hope to be on their field in a couple years!
I commend these guys for trying to take airsoft/milsim to the next level.
40 hours is rough. I did a blacksheep for 24 hours straight, no sleeping, and I was wiped. (Well, okay, I only made it to about 16 hours)
10:22.
y'all literally called out my whole kit. the exact same gun and everything.
Can i get an F in the chat for the gun i spent $700 building?
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10:18 anyone else notice the cat-like thing in the background?
How are the blank firing rifles incorporated into the game. I know it adds a huge sense of realisms, but how does it affect the actual gameplay? How do they kill people?
Sam Thistlewood In observing this firsthand during the event, the honor system is still very much in effect to make this work, but over and above that, calling your hit from blank fire round requires the player to incorporate the element of 'live action role playing" (AKA LARPing) when he or she suspects that someone with a blank fire rifle is shooting at them. I've witnessed shooters have to call out to another enemy player close by to alert them that he has been shooting at them, at which point the player acknowledged, and I didn't suspect any cheating. I think it was a situation where they just didn't realize it with everything else going on (it was a crazy firefight). Having the blank fire rifles in game really added an awesome effect to the immersion factor. Very cool to hear those shots going off rather than just hearing a bunch of AEGs going at it. - Tom
Ah that sounds rather awesome and works quite well, thanks.
AirsoftObsessed1 all my gear is black except my gun so would I have to buy new gear to play milsim
so what's the deal with face guards so a bb doesn't hit you right in the teeth?
Sam Thistlewood blanks can't kill
A tip is get a mountain backpack and put your assault pack (empty) in there and also the things you are going to put in the assault pack and once you get the assault pack out you fill it
Great vid. Very informative and breaks down the whole MSW mythology. Thanks AO Tom
I run a mk46 and went to seize grozny. They gave me the amount of BBs my riflemen buddy's got. I used it all in 1 engagement
Since I can't reply to @MrVLeAsian for some reason, here's an answer for him and anyone else who asks the following question:
>I don't think I've ever found a clear answer to this question. Would the Krytac LMG be allowed as an LMG since it's not necessarily "belt-fed"?
The answer: No. A member of my fireteam at RtR wanted to run his, but he was turned down. Keep in mind: Your overglorified AR that takes SAW box mags isn't a LMG, nor is it milsim. If you wanted to play gunner, you should've gotten a proper SAW.
Still want to go. Come to Texas soon please
"Peeing in your pants is too milsim"
clearly you've never used a catheter...
I like a lot of this. It would be a lot of fun to go, I think, and could possibly be useful to me as a training vehicle.
Looks like a great event run by people who know what they are doing.
I don't think I've ever found a clear answer to this question. Would the Krytac LMG be allowed as an LMG since it's not necessarily "belt-fed"?
No, But you can use it with the local militia. it would be considered a mag fed rifle. Only belt fed area LMG. SAW/ 249, 240 type, RPK, etc etc and maybe MINI gun if they allow you to mount it to vehicle.
Is that guy in the middle standing in a hole?
I love the mic that's not plugged into anything
Jayden French wireless
Is there any tracer bbs?
I assume not because the milsim host would spend more to give out to everyone, if no why not?
"You'll have to listen to my feelings"
...I get to be carried, naked, by a strong, manly man, and he even tells me how he feels? Fuck yeah, sign me up!
Great video guys! Interesting!
Hey, if I go REGFOR can I use my ghorka stuff? Or is that not allowed?
Well, look at the tacsop, you use Russian approved camo, I’m pretty sure that you can use it if you have a full squad of that
Mann if I ever get to the states on a vacation I wanne join this... We dont have milsim at this level here in Denmark.. Does anyone know if there's a way to like rent a set for a weekend...
Im a former sergeant so I do have some experience but this seriously is looking so cool..
Well, normally if you travel to the US for airsoft especially one like Milsim West, you sleep and eat on the battlefield. From the research I've done, Im pretty sure they give you a living quarters, but if you plan on doing things other than airsoft, I suggest you get a hotel in the vicinity of the area as well.
N.Y.R.M. had a 72 hour weekend event..... However I understand that no radio comms nor your not allowed to bring your own ammo. The ammo policy I can understand.....
but only leaders can have radios can make operations hectic.
+NYRM1974 Are you kidding me? Have you ever been in a situation where EVERYONE is on the radio channel? It's ass.
+Mason Kelly you're more than entitled to your views and opinions. however due to the fact that the feel that I own is over 600 plus acres it's a matter of safety for the participants. to each his own
NYRM1974 I'm not angry at you just thinking of how chaotic it is. You are never very far from your squad leader at these events so they will have a radio anyway.
So if I want to join and want to have a sniper rifle and not talk on my radio all day because I saw jet and noveritch (butchered that name) sniping together in a game so I'm a bit confused
Joe old do you have to be to play at one of your milsim games
HangeGaming 13-15 with parent. 16 and up your good.
I know I'm relatively late but what do you do when you die?
I just wanted to know where we take a sh*t
5:05 how do you discourage them
Wonder if you'd get to use a tri color uniform in a desert environment
You’d have to have a realistic unit to copy an impression off of, and would have to have at least nine people to form a squad together. If you have that you still have to get it approved by MSW cadre.
Last December at Guardian it was allowed for Rusfor to have a whole FSB platoon to run modern kit with multicam uniforms. The stipulations were those in that platoon had to wear multiple high vis IFF bands.
and what are the team colors, i heard its like AK47 and M16/M4s but what are the colors?
If we have a group of like 6 ppl, would it be alright to wear marpat or sum like that?
I have a question i want to do this but i have a UAR (MSBS -556B) as my main weapon can i use it on let say Nato USA ex.
I love to play for Russian Federation. Love to Russia from Slovakia :)
"I mean.. I'll do it" hahahahahaha
How would you go about having your own private milsim group incorporated into BLUFOR? Say I had a PMC group, is that allowed?
how does ammo and ammo resupply work with blank rounds....
It doesn't. If you read the tacsop it says that blank fire rounds must be supplied by you and approved by them
Ah, okay so do I carry all of it orrr? because of the 500 round deal?
+rose nononono depends on how you decide to do it. and how much you bring, if you decide that your shooting a shit ton, bring multiple FULL cans, carry 1 in your Ruck, leave the others with your COC, and when your Squad Leader and Platoon Leader Call for Resupply, make sure to give them Notice that you need Blanks.
wat about the animal wildlife in the back ground, a white fox/wolf?
Are mid caps allowed in milsim west ? And can we also rent some gear ?
Renting for a Milsim sounds like a terrible idea. You will want to be comfortable and well versed in your equipment way before you step foot in the events.
@Windslashman ok thank you but can I have mid caps or no?
@@Jetstreasamuel Check the rules for it. It'll state what is and/or what isn't allowed.
What about the russian fsb alpha they wear multicam can i wear multicam for rusfor
Are there charging stations for your batteries
In the TACSOP, there's a rule saying:
"Don't "game" the event, go with the flow and enjoy the experience".
Can someone explain that rule in a little more detail?
Wrim's Airsoft I believe that means, Don't be a D Bag and exploit any Gamesmanship BS. You know, the kind of stuff you see people doing at other events like pushing the rules to their absolute limit and saying, "Well the rules didn't say I couldn't this very specific thing that no one else in their right mind would have done." It means, have fun with it and experience the game to a full level of immersion and enjoy it. MSW isn't like any other MilSim or airsoft event out there, so why would you want to ruin it and turn it into yet another John Lu event?
These are just my thoughts on this rule, but I bet if Josh or any of the other guys were to read this, their answer would be similar. Well, maybe minus the John Lu reference.
I confused what are the color requirements for milsim because all my stuff is black
for nato it is multicam only. there is no black gear allowed
Fucking Josh, Never met the man, but i can tell hes a serious but Jestful man.
how do HITS work? i've seen hits where u get healed and u move on. But what about being HIT twice or not healed?
Manu X one hit and you can get bandaged but twice then a medic has to make you drink a regular 16oz water bottle all the way then your ready to go
+RoramTheGreat and if u get hit 3 times?
+RoramTheGreat what if nobody heals you?
I think there may be a respawn time or point if no one heals you but I'm not for sure on that
+RoramTheGreat well thats what we must learn
and do you just not bring your own BBs?
What time does it start
Is omon a big nato target
What's the age requirements for milsim west
I don't know exactly but from what I've heard 16 is minimum
what if someone has sniper hiw many bbs he gets
How many bbs for sniper
Age restrictions?
That's a good microphone
cat at 10:28, moving right to left.
Does milsim west allow atacs fg for rusfor side? The Russians use it
there is some kind of animal in the background in 10:17
How old do you have to be I’m 11 and really want to do a milsim but think that I’m not going to be allowed because I never see kids in any videos on youtube of milsims
What’s the battery for AEGs situation
Bring your own
what is a hicap? 5:43
High capacity magazine
so milsim is not really for snipers?
noob here....whats HICAP?
so if one were to be killed in game, they can take your food in game?
No just bbs and they can take photos of Intel
good comrade Soviet_Joe
+Soviet_Joe when u die do u have to leave or can a medic revive u
Does anyone know if there are IDF players? I’d love to bring my Tavor.
Hey if anybody could shed so,e light on this subject, i have a famas cybergun and an m4 that is broken. I would like to know which side if any would the famas be an appropriate primary to use in a milsim, if anybody can help that would be very appreciated
+The White Death Right there with you I use a custom m4a1 pulse rifle and was wandering if it would be allowed?
+CrazyHorseMusX you would both have to be on a militia team as they are the only ones that can use whatever gun they want
+umbra insidiatori I was thinking it would work for being on nato's side considering it's used by the French
26th North Carolina Will
Its a custom full metal functional replica of the sci-fi weapon from the second aliens movie, lol what do you mean the french use it? hahah
+CrazyHorseMusX oh I thought you were referring to my question about the famas, it's the French service rifle
How old do you have to be to go to a milsim west event?
13 or older I believe
13-14 with registered parental consent
15-18 with consent
so we can use any camo? such as my cadpat?... it would suck too spend another 2k for more camo
secretagentnight RUSFOR can use any Russian-issue camo, REGFOR is limited to OD/Woodland, NATO can use multicam or UCP. You can use other NATO camo (like CADPAT), but only if you find another few guys with the same camo and squad up. For example, *Jump to Crimea* had an Australian themed squad running around.
+secretagentnight Cadpat is a Canadian Pattern (NATO), you would need to Field a Full 13Man Sized unit.
+secretagentnight and must be PRE APPROVED by MSW Staff
+VelmiVelkiZrut which i dont get why, Australia isnt part of NATO
+Bryan Adams we're basically part of NATO, we have friendly relations with all countries in NATO. We're like the mate that backs you up in a fight ;)
what are the snoflake cammo or snowflake bb's?
+Ionut Carabina for example if you come with an urban ERDL and a Chinese type97 (or other uncommon gun) and 'weird' shit like that , not really helpfull in milsims , just use gear like that in 5-7 gours games ^^
i think i got it,thx
+abder AndYou
So... does that mean British's L1A1 rifle is a no go as well?
I got one from Ares.
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Its a British rifle so if you use it with British gear it shouldn't be a problem
abder AndYou Thanks, mate.
what's the age limit
16+ for some
But most say 18+
16+ without parent permission, 6+ with parent supervision
Sasha Goncharov why is 6+ allowed in airsoft ? in hungary thankfully they are not. not even with parents. 16+ is allowed with permission but they are so immature but very few on milsim. why is this a thing in usa ?
Ajvihun hahaha I'm not from the USA I'm from Australia and sheriff is illegal, how I know is that I googled it😊.
i see ! uhh bad for you then
Could i use a vietnam era m60
depends on the event
with the M60 be allowed on the American team
No
can you preload mags
No
How do you make sure everyone is using the right weapons/ wearing the right bdus? Do you buy them there or are you expected to have your own? I really want to do one of these but I'm in Oregon and have no friends who share this interest.... need more info
Nathan Franklin I’m in az text me 6024252539 maybe we can go sometime
Bro I help run a field near Medford, shoot me an email at spicyboisg@gmail and if you're still up for it a year later you should come out saturdays
why are high caps not allowed?
They carry an unrealistic amount of bbs and are noisy
+Soviet_Joe thx
Audry Mendoza not realistic
anyone know the age requirement
how old do you have to be to milsim
13-15 with parent participating, 16-17 with permission 18+ on your own.
is aor 2 aloud on nato?
josh caine-welch no
josh is so small hahaha
+James McNamara yea he cant be no taller than me, and im 5'6''
What is special snowflm
Is there an age requirement?
could I use an ACR?
you have to join militia sense it's not a Russian or U.S gun and that means no attachments or sights
CatLord likes cheesecake oh ok :((((
How old do you need to be to attend?
Keanu Reaves 13-15 with guardian/parent and 16+, your good.
Pro tip: thumbnail needs to have clearer text :D
So can I run simrounds out of a live firearm?
Do you have to be 18 and older or 16 and older to go or am I completely off
i think the youngest is 13
Google mate, google answers everything
+The Triple Syndicate I think 13-15 you need to be WITH parents, 16-17 parents just need to sign something. 18+ you're good
never mind the 2nd question not the first
how old do you have to be to attend a Milsim West event?
13-15 with registered parent or guardian
16-17 with parental consent
Where can I find the events
What about snipers
Why the sniper hate lol. That’s the weapon system I choose. So I guess I’ll go to American milsim lol.
what are high caps
They are hi capacity clips or mags
Ryan Pearson thanks but could you bring an m16 if you are on the russian side? or do they supply the guns
collinfuerst1 both no for rusfor it's ak47 or any Russian airsoft gun or for nato it's I think m16 is allowed but not too sure and they don't supply stuff
thanks
can you bring your own bbs
tyler b yup
Watch the vid
r/iamverysmart
How old do you have to be to play milsim west cause I'm 13.
you can go but there is requirements go on there website
Ohh ok I found it in there web page TACSOP.
Your welcome
17 or older by yourself or 16 under would have to be with parents I believe
Damn I hate being 13
I’m 10 but my dad and uncle where in the military so can I go
13-15 with registered parental consent
16-17 with parental consent
What about realtree camo squads duck dynasty ftw!!
Codename Hannibal NO
How old do i have to be
I know sniper is recon but I mean they do and can shoot to defend themselves if they get spotted.... Right?...RIGHT!?!?
+Major “Admiral” Mayham if they have a side arm like a pistol.
And how manny should you bring
if you want to reach out past 100yards with a airsoft sniper. your never going to do it with those bb weights
14 yr old, can I play? Also are you allowed a clear gun, I have a gun with polymer stock and grips but the main body of the gun is clear plastic, I will spray paint it if I have to, also if your on the rebel or insurgent teams can what do you wear? A balaclava and some camo pants with a light rig or something?
Clear guns are not allowed and your gonna need a better gun. I'm assuming it's a springer or an lpaeg (low power airsoft electric gun) and both of those would be outclassed by normal airsoft guns
Nope. Even if it wasn’t clear, it’s probably a spring gun, and good springs guns don’t exist outside of sniper rifles
No. What a few years and save up for proper gear
Man so I can't use my FAL if I'm Russian, or even my tiger stripe BDU's that sucks, but god damn I want to be in a milsim west event so badly, they look so friggin awesome
+DeathNote Airsoft Go with the Regional Forces (Insurgents, terrorists, civilians) Which is basicaly AK, FAL, Galil - all those old cold war to gulf war era weapons. No tactical gear
+Mykael Yeah, and you can use older camouflage (like tigerstripe) too!
I’ve been playing since I was 7
Airsoft? Or milsim. Because If its milsim then bullshit because you have to be 12 or older to get into a milsim event.
Airsoft maybe but Muslim never you have to be 13
What age do you have to be to Attend???
Could I wear digital ACU? I mean the U.S. Still uses it I think?
No
FallingStarStudios rip
Why would you want to anyways, it blends with virtually nothing.
@@jaydenshepard7928 lmao nevada salt patches