Korg WAVESTATE // Review and full tutorial // Wave sequencing and Vector synthesis explained
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- IMPORTANT UPDATE: You know all the cons in this video? Korg pretty much addressed them in firmware version 2... Here's my full coverage: • Korg Wavestate 2 Revie...
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:00 What is Wave Sequencing 2.0?
3:00 Vector synthesis explained
3:50 Overview
7:10 Navigating the interface
10:40 Timing lane
12:35 Crossfade
13:45 Sample lane
14:20 Probability
15:15 Pitch lane
16:20 Shape lane
17:55 Gate lane
18:10 Step seq lane
18:40 Master lane
19:50 Lane controls
21:50 Filter
23:55 Envelopes
25:30 Vector envelope
27:10 LFOs
29:10 Mod matrix
31:40 Mod knobs
33:15 Arpeggiator
34:05 Effects
37:20 Single v Waveseq
38:30 Misc
40:10 Pros & cons
44:10 Outro jam
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IMPORTANT UPDATE 2: Korg just released a software-only version of Wavestate with a discount for people who bought the hardware version.
IMPORTANT UPDATE 1: You know all the cons in this video? Korg pretty much addressed them in firmware version 2... Here's my full coverage: ua-cam.com/video/eBCSvTLYF1Q/v-deo.html
I am amazed at your ability to learn and retain the operation of so many gears in such a short time.
What I really can‘t understand are people which are giving this kind of review a thumbs down!
Really, I don‘t get it. They might not like the reviewed device, ok, fine. But this guy has spend so much time on an excellent and professional review. What‘s wrong with that.
Just haters and idiots I guess. No friends, no fun, no life.
Anyway loopop: excellent review, as always. A lot of usefull information. I already ordered the Wavestate even I do still have some concerns in regards to modmatrix and menue diving.
Yeah, some people expect every review/demo to just be playing - which is dumb to me because I don't care what someone else can do with an instrument. I want to know what I can do with an instrument. That's where @loopop is awesome -- he shows us what we can do with things.
I had a chat about this the other day with another YT regular and the conclusion was that in a lot of cases it is ire at the item being reviewed not the reviewer, having said that is this not what the comments section is for? But when you see virulent reaction from fanboys who have someone chip away at their perceptions it then becomes more understandable.
Very professional tutorial! I would have watched it if it was 45 minutes longer with demos accompanying all he explained!!
@Beatprisoner
nah nah nah , you're making a big mistake here : those upside down thumbs are australian likes !
As I've heard it there are people who are paid to thumb down (and up) semi-random videos in order to influence the "suggested videos" algorithm too.
To all the other "reviewers" out there. THIS IS HOW A REVIEW SHOULD BE. Thank u loopop. Excellent.
This is the same as literally every review like wut
It’s pure poetry
@@levilewin3364 No it's not, it's explained & simplified much better than most reviews so no, it's not the same wut.
AMEN! Always professional and easy to understand, organized. My go to when I want to do some research.
Loopop always has the best reviews! His knowledge on all the gear too tho. The stuff he shows off he does with it almost always give those 'insta-buy' vibes
I've always wanted a synth where I could cover songs from Akira and Ghost in the Shell. Sounds amazing
killroy123 ❤️
exactly the vibe i got !
NAILED IT!
Yes!! I love both those soundtracks and yes you nailed it with that comment
Very well spotted, it's those 80s/90s inspired tribal percussions. Which were a big part of the sound on the Roland D-50 as well.
We are witnessing the Korg golden age.
could be better, more repros less cash required to get it hahaha!
If this is too expensive for you, buy a Volca. I have a few of them and they are AWESOME!
@@lundsweden. No they are not awesome.
Drama much. Sheesh
It sounds thin and cheap sometimes, good for sound effects but not a serious sounding synth.
Well, I was just sitting here wondering where to spend that extra grand that I don't have lying around, and now I know!
Is the price confirmed to be $1,000? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I expected it to be $1,200 - $1,500. $1,000 sounds about right too. If it were any less this would be quite a steal. My eyes are currently on the Lyra8 and Argon8 though. My wallet... It's hoping I don't even buy a Behringer Neutron/Model D, let alone something like this. :D
@@mikeexits I read $800 US most likely ~ Cad $1000 but I can't confirm this
I saw a price on one of the sites I frequent. It was at $1250 Australian. Grab the calculators!
@@jimshannononsounds I found a pre-order page on Guitar Center's website, it's indeed $800. Quite a deal!
@@mikeexits Sweetwater has it listed at $800
Aw man, they brought back the joystick. Korg hittin' me right in those feels.
Just pre-ordered one this weekend. Cannot wait to play with this thing. Almost all the sounds I've heard this thing create so far are just incredible.
Bravo on creating a structuring yet another in-depth surperlative review on such a dynamic instrument. No better UA-cam channel destination to gather a no non-sense feature value proposition for this vertical. Gratefully.
i was just alerted this existed 20 minutes ago & promptly you have a video!!! 👏❤👍👏
you deserve more subs
Just picked this up. I'm still learning my Virus TI Polar after over a decade. Thank you for this.
20 seconds in and I’m already wanting this....
Same
I have the same feeling with every review from loopop
15 sec :-)))))
14,9999999 sec ;-}
The keyboard is frustratingly short it seems. Use a bigger board I guess.
For someone like me, who bought my first synth in 1992, this is what synths are supposed to sound like. 😚👌
Gen x synth gang! Is the Prophecy or Z1 coming next?
You did it Loopop...your review made me pre-order a synth for the first time in 25 years. And I've never seen such a massive new synth unveiling by a company. Korg must have over-nighted dozens of units to YT influencers! Genius!
Becoming interested in a synth and then discovering a loopop demonstration of that synth... it’s a great thing.
Much more than I was expecting. That looks like fun!
my gosh, this is quite an impressive and clever synth
Thank you Loopop. I ordered a wavestate and your video has been extremely helpful. I'm still surprised that something with this much depth is around $700! Seeing your update video is also a blessing, because now we can get multisamples from analog synths into the wavestate! A very wonderful, deep and portable synth in my opinion. Cheers.
If there is a new synth on the market you only need one channel to get all the information available. This is the channel. Love it !
Amazing review and tutorial. Probably the best I’ve seen for any keyboard. I am so excited to pick up the 61-key version of Wavestate as soon as it becomes available. Very inspiring! Thank you! This will be my first foray into synthesis.
Amazing synth, pro demo. I vote for a desktop module too.
Agreed but please make it rack mount.
@@NineHellHeaven won't fit, its 3" too wide and already cluttered. maybe if they dump the pitch/mod wheels and squish everything over o top of that lonely help button
@@n_o_ Well of course they'll dump the pitch and mod wheels in a desktop version. That always happens.
I vote for the desktop version with a tilting panel like the very rare Redsound ELEVATA!
waaaaant a module ♡ ‿ ♡
You made this confusing instrument seem pretty approachable. I really love that this thing is just UNIQUE, and can do bizarre things that an analogue synth can't even scratch. And it gets into the strange territory that retro romplers explored, but it in a way more approachable way. That asynchronous sequence and effect concept is out of this world. I may end up getting obsessed with this puppy. Time will tell ;) Thanks for a great review!
I agree I’m looking for something a bit weird and this one seems to have that down
Synthesis as a form of music making is pretty weird in general
Great start of 2020 with new Korg synth and loopop review
This is not only a comprehensive review but a full user manual as well. Very good work!
This synth will be amazing in creating cheesy-lovescenes-in-90s-horror-movies!
On a serious note, I had the original wavestation,and I am happy that KORG respects their people by recreating the old stuff in a good way unlike *cough*Roland*Cough*
Ambient music needs love too.
@@alexsartandmusic While the wavestate may seem like another "rompler" I assure you that it is not. It will choke doing a roland TB3 but so does the clones. Not a TB 3. Not a rompler. It truly synthesizes and is designed for programmers. It is a different beast than any I ever owned or own. I LOVE analog too.
No I think Roland did the right thing but they did the wrong thing by not using the form factor that they presented in the reissues that they did to percent newer concepts and that form factor. I think the JD 08 they finally got a ride and if they were smart they would actually develop newer modules and actually try to revolutionize. I mean they're blowing a huge market and a huge opportunity to capitalize. I mean who wouldn't want like an electronic maybe not as full-blown because the form factor will be a little bit smaller but something comparable I mean you got all kinds of ways you can run without form factor.
Wise man once say, "Many of the best things have already been done, the trick is to do those same things better."
My last digital synth was Roland V-Synth. Mostly buying analog gear now, but this tutorial review has convinced me that Korg Wavestate is a necessity in my studio! Well done, as usual, Loopop! Much respect!
I'm in exactly the same boat. Really trying to focus on analog gear, especially with Behringer making it so cheap to experiment and try it out. I'm 50 and I've been playing keyboards since around 1984. But unfortunately that was pretty much the same year that digital slammed the market. By the time I was affluent enough to go buying and experimenting with various synthesizers that was pretty much all there was on the market. The first since I bought with my own money and also the first I gigged with, was a Korg N5ex. A few years later I bought at least I on because I had always wanted to try analog gear.... But it was the closest I could get in my price range. I think I spent 500 bucks on each of those two synths. My first experiences with true analog in my own studio still weren't actually completely analog. I eventually acquired a Kawai K3 and a Korg DW8000, both with analog filters but the waveforms were sampled. 2 years ago I bought behringer's Crave and Odyssey, finally getting to sink my teeth into true analog at last! I'm interested in getting a Moog Subharmonicon, Dreadbox Nymphes or similar as my next analog synth...but Wavestate is making me rethink that a little! 😏
Thanks a lot - I appreciate the time you spent getting busy with the Wavestate to get familiar with the features and then even bring it to such a level to be able to do a very smooth 45min performance without stumbling around. Really good!
I just bought the Korg Wavestate and I am missing the Guru Library and the Wavestation Library. Where can I download it? If you know. It supposed to come with isnt? Thank you.
It’s supposed to come with it - make sure searching through all the samples
@@loopop Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me. I did click the sample button and Categories and found the Wavestation Library. Is the Guru Library available under sample or performance? The manual is pretty bad. Thank you.
@@loopop Nevermind I found it!!! I just want to thank you again for helping me!!!! Youre awesome.
Very nice review, my friend! Love the OG Wavestation, cool to see this out.
With all those sequencers i totally can see this thing controlling a new form of nuclear reactor. So basically you could use it in some way to create music with it? ;-)
Thanks very much - would be very interesting to see what you'd do with this!
I have a mint wavestation , I want this also. Maybe I am being greedy but I want another wave sequencing machine. I only have a hand full right now from Waldorf, Fizmo, wavestation... I could sell the ws if this can do even more, but I like the yamaha keyboard the tech spotted doing a small repair. Flat out yamaha in mine.
You nailed it. Great technology bending waves and the magic of the randomisation tools but how does it work within the context of music? Perhaps background music for a video game?
It doesn't but lets be honest, these people care about nothing sans their own opinion. Leave them to it. Wavestate is a bedroom gimmick at best. 37 keys with GB's of piano sounds from mainline boards? Sure. Ok. Would you like some octaves and actual customization with that rehashed 90's breakfast at all?
This is the synth I've always wanted but either didn't exist or I couldn't afford. Sign me up for that preorder!
Excellent! I was so overwhelmed with the complexity of this machine when I saw all the controls, but now I fell confident enough to purchase it. Thank you very much.
I really, truly, badly, desperately, passionately want this synth. Great video, & well done, Korg!
Amazing! Finally synth companies making stuff I want.
I am loving this synth, finally managed to get hold of one despite Covid, and it is really a breath of fresh air: great sounds, and very well thought out, quick to navigate around, easy to program. Even the voice allocation is smart (like a Nord Lead 3), for example you can have a mono bass sound on the lowest note you're playing, a pad in the middle and a mono lead on the highest note, use the 4th track for drums and you have a band-in-a-box!! KORG are going to have to issue a big-brother version of this synth with a full keyboard 😘
The wait was agonizing! Still wish it had more keys or was a module...sigh ....Super nice to work with but a little intimidating at first glance.saving up for that , Korg! Performance controls rock my world!
THANK YOU i was looking for a nice detailed vid about this synth that covered all the features, and yours was perfect. There were a lot of controls and knobs and things i didnt know what they were. But now i can make a fully educated decision on whether or not to get this absolute beast.
YOU LUCKY DOG! So glad to see a video from you about this synth shortly after rumors on Reddit. What a time to be alive.
The wavestation and it's kind makes picking out a square wave and a couple of triangles and using a filter look like a walk in the park.This looks like a nice way to spend a weekend making a patch or two....
To be honest if I had one I'd probably keep hitting "random" til it came up with something good for me
@@PutItAway101 I try that once in a while, I needed a sound that was a combination of synthesizer, voices, strings and a gong every few random beats and this did it easily. I had to add the vocoderized track separately and over dub but it blended OK. Then it was a matter of fitting it into a mix with moog and novation BS2 and some other bits.
4 minutes in and as a total newb who has never even owned a synth: very clearly presented what's happening under the hood!
Wow! That's the best board review I've ever watched. Nicely done!
Amazing lesson. Have been here a few times and will be coming back many many more for awhile. May be most watched youtube video ever for me and I have been here for 15 years or so, so that is a pretty high compliment sir!
Thanks for the review! I'm glad that you like the synth. Re sample sorting: when in the Sample Select list, use PAGE + to go to the Filters & Sort Order page.
Thanks! Indeed I show that in the video (categories and sample bank) - it would be great to favorite and search as well
Didn't know you have a youtube, Dan! Congrats on launching Wavestate! I subbed in case you decide to upload some vids ;)
Thanks Loopop for a comprehensive overview of this next great synth offering from Korg! 😎🎹👍🍻
My favorite channel .. I'm always blown away by your in-depth reviews..my go-to before buying a synth !!
I was going to buy the Hydrasynth, after seeing this I’ve changed my mind.
Big mistake
Jay Keel such as? I do not like the sound of the Modal. The hydra is still a menu diver and I like the overall sound from the Korg.
@@colonelrjb3608 trading a wavetable synth for a compact rompler?
@@colonelrjb3608 Menu diver? Have you ever played one? Enjoy your Korg...
Jay Keel well considering I don’t see anything of significance of your expertise on synths posted here, I’ll assume you’re a troll, and take your words of wisdom with a grain of salt. To each their own.
Now yes the ease of sound production: ASM > Modal >> Korg. Look and feel of the synth: ASM=Korg>>Modal. Generated sounds:Korg>=ASM>Modal. Modal and ASM wave morphing, Korg wave sequencing. Each synth has its pluses and minuses but they are all fine synths. I just prefer the Korg personally.
I made Slovak subtitles for Czech and Slovak speaking synthgeeks. Zev, thank you for letting me translate them. Excellent review, btw. :)
Thanks for taking the time to do this!
Another excellent overview Mr.Loopop. You knocked it out of the park with this one. I love what Korg have done with this. I’ve always been a fan of the original wavestation but this takes it to a whole new level -and then some. It would make a perfect companion to my Korg minilogue xd. Well done
as usual a very good review with depth analysis. Did pre order one after this one. Please continue this way of review, very much value and worth while viewing
Synth manufacturers are living in the 90's still when it comes to the output screens on the synths. The are in monochrome text like a raster or vector monitor and about 2"'-3"" . Event top end workstations and arrangers have a small output monitor with no option for an external monitor.
External monitor output makes sense.
The 45k $ Fairlight had a screen but the Emulators for 7.5k $ won the day. Had to buy a computer and software to really dig in . Went for an Atari, Akai X7000 and 400 software for 2k. total. Mac was that much alone. Not sorry!
Well, i can say only 2 things. 1. Great demo and explanation 2. Who can recommend any affordable anti-GAS pills?
Incredibly deep and powerful! And daaaamn it sounds good!!! Awesome video as usual, man!
Watched it again and got even more out of it than the first time. Thanks again. Great stuff.
Glad I bought my new telescope before I heard about this!
Good seeing!
I wanted to tell you about the garage sale I went to in the 1980s. Found a 14 inch celestron and equatorial mount on the rafters in the shed. they did not care about. , they wanted 800. True story! 4 bottles of windex later.
@@TheSynthZone Score!
Korg never disappoints..in the age of touchscreen and OLED, presenting yet another tiny screen.
yea but think how much better this is than whatever nightmares a touch ui from korg would involve. let them do knobs. they know knobs.
@@n_o_ The damn screen should be at least 2x bigger. It's the XXI century, wtf are they doing? it's worse than some home computers 40 years ago!
Small displays are no big issue in synths that do not involve so much complexity, but that's not the case here. With so many samples, sequencing etc, Wavestate begs for more space on the screen.
Problem is software, coding ui is hard on embeded devices and you need to focus on sound generation
This device is incredibly functional. You present things very well too!! Thanks!!
Compliments...for explaining all this beauty's possibilities...it's an incredible piece of KORG-art!!!
Oh well hell, just when I thought I would never buy another synth... I absolutely love the Wavestatation but came to despise how predictable it sounded. This seems like perfection to me.
Yes, wavestation way overused, very tough to program. But, it can nest side by side now with it's genealogical descendent, if you kept one. Wavestation SR a real bargain right now. Maybe an EX if you have a few bucks.
@@TheSynthZone I still have an SR, I consolidated many years back and acquired it for my “compact essentials rack” I would love to have the full unit, but it’s hard to justify taking up the space as I also own Korg’s quite capable software emulation of the WS. 😀
5:20....that tone reminds me of the very beginning of: Unreal - Eastern Temple
Outstanding review as always. When I have doubts about purchasing a synth, your reviews are a deciding factor. In this case, I’m ordering a Wavestate now and I suspect I’ll be referring to this review again once it arrives. Many thanks for your hard work, it’s much appreciated.
OMG it's fantastic sounding unit! Great vid as always, thank you
This reminded me of segments of Depeche Modes 'Music for the masses'.
A sampling based band and a sampling based synth, incredible!
Yes, like Never let me down again first seconds.
I don't know. I own an original Wavestation (and the software version) and this really isn't all that different from either. So, I'm certain that there's been a hardware synth around for about 25 years that can function fairly similarly and a softsynth for nearly a decade as well.
It sure would be nice to see Korg or Roland or Yamaha or any of the big synth manufacturers actually do some real R&D and advance the state of the art instead of digging up their back catalog to repackage old ideas as new ones to keep their lights on. The smaller players are certainly trying to do just that in some cases, but the big guys with all of the money and resources are like Disney: they play it safe by looking back instead of being courageous and taking a chance on something new and novel and different.
Where are the FPGA additive or spectral modeling synths? Where are the hardware units with dedicated processors and RAM sufficient for true real-time physical modeling and additive synths? Where are the next - gen DSP chips that are commensurate with modern PC and server processors?
If Korg and their contemporaries won't do it, then they'll have no right to cry when someone else DOES and wipes the floor with them in the next few years.
Brian McCalla I hear you. I got my WS 30 years ago.... the approach to synthesis is really a different paradigm here. Every synth since the 90s has a certain disappointment, ‘ what no vectors, no 256 stage envelopes or lfos only 4 waves shapes... ‘
Yeah... where’s the additive synths?
Brian McCalla
To address the first part of your comment, I’m looking forward to a proper comparison between the original WS and this one. I’m primarily interested in how this DAC sounds versus the one of the original in an A/B comparison. The original Wavestation has an almost magical sound to it, with a pretty warm tone for being digital (although the JD-800/990 has it beat in when it comes to warmth). While this new one does appear to have expanded capabilities, I’m not sure it’s to the extent that I would get rid of my EX.
As for the rest of what you said, I think Korg has taken a cue from Behringer and is going to push further into revivals and remakes. Behringer has a set of consumers with a voracious appetite for clones who will go on to rebuke the original companies for not reissuing what Behringer has cloned. Music companies like Korg see this and want to get in on the money while reclaiming their former glory in the eyes of consumers hungry for rehashes. Yamaha is catapulting further into this foray as well, with a poll back in Summer 2019 that asked if people wanted to see a CS-80 remake amongst other, more modern takes.
But you’re absolutely right in asking where the new technologies are-the music tech industry appears to be a dog that gets paid to chase its tail. Hey, I like this old stuff a lot myself, but I concede that too little focus is being put into true innovations. In fact, it seems most companies are not pushing into new sound creation territories at all! It’s a shame, because in this world saturated with clones and vst repros, we need something fresh more than anything. We need new sounds with new ways to make them!
The wavestation interface is atrocious in comparison.
@@darklightprojector2688 if he was talking about behringer I can't help but laugh.
Behringer has over 10k employees and an actual city full of factories manufacturing chips and synth parts. They are NOT "the little guy".
cubis
Nah, it was crucial to talk about the company that all the other companies know is putting numbers on the board. I wasn’t really thinking about the ones OP refers to
Thank you for this excellent review/tutorial.
Your channel has become the Litmus Test for synthesizers.
amazing again ! wavestate + opsix could easily make one dive into a
state of completely loosing the notion of time and space for days...
thanks for another great review LOOPOP ! 👏
Another Con: no aftertouch. Almost all of the WaveStation got ported over, but the 61 keys and the aftertouch. Hope Korg make a desktop/rack/app version with A/D input and sample loading.
Exactly
The AD is missing.. Great for vocoding lime Teddy Riley used on his countless hits.
@Rhizosphere easy way to cut costs and create product segmentation
Or use a keyboard and midi it, or wait for a possible desktop unit.
@@TheSynthZone Mmmmmmm desktop version. Gimme.
I hope Korg will listen to user feedback, and continue to support the Wavestation with software updates, to address unforeseen shortcomings, and provide extra features.
That is the kind of thing, that I really appreciate from a company.
I for one, am willing to pay for updates that add features, as long as the updates that fix bugs, are free.
@Nigel Day Yes, Great update.
I have installed it.
Thanks for the tip, and have a wonderful day.
Great job Korg, this new synth sounds amazing! I'm still trying to wrap
my head around subtractive synthesis so I probably won't be getting this
one anytime soon but am really excited to hear what people can create with this
thing, seems like you could make an entire album with just this one little machine.
This synth just sounds so beautiful
The age of advanced modulation digital synths has begun for the under $800 market. WaveState - HydraSynth - Argon8 - maybe also the MinilogueXD when including the motion sequencer. I have been waiting for the digital revolution of deep modulation synthesis for 30 years - available in analog modular for over 30 years.
True that. I had a jx3p and it sounded good whatever I did, basically. I can get stumped for a bit using the modular/semi modular set up, but at the end find the sound I want to make. Modulation has it's place. Funny, I have been shopping that exact list all this week. I am drawn to the wavestate because it offers a ton of choices, that will keep us busy. I just want 1 more unit, just...1....more...more...
Interesting. COuld be an impulse buy if they ever drop the keyboard and come out with a module version.
Man I really love the sounds of it and the paradigm of sequenced layers.
Some reviews are all talk and no play, some are sounds and no talking, but loopop reviews are more or less perfect, you get to hear what's on offer as well as a great tutorial on what does what. IMO the best Wavestate demo there is. And with a contents list on the side as well !!
Great demo! Again an expressive synth without aftertouch though...
it's got it in the synth itself...it's own keybed what is incapable of transmitting it, though.
Waiting for the desktop, and the Osmos :P
as much as i'd like to order one of these right now, i'm going to wait on it. what i'm hoping is, that Korg released the current Wavestate to see how it sells. if it's a hit, perhaps they will release a expanded version of it later, with 61 keys, a bigger display, and more goodies.
Yeah, just got one and it definitely feels like a crappy toy. I wish it was built like the Hydrasynth. Shit, even the all plastic Korg DS8 feels 100 times better than this thing. It seriously feels like if it fell off a stand once it would shatter or if you shook it real hard it just wouldn't work at all. It's weird to me because it seems like if you're building a synth very small and light you are aiming for the easy tour synth market but if it's meant to go on the road it probably shouldn't be make out of cardboard and tissue paper.
As usual, top quality review. Your videos set the standard for reviews and overviews. Got a new subscriber!
Another excellent tutorial from Mr Loopop but going to have to watch this video multiple times to get my head around all the functions!
This synth looks incredible, a monster for pads and evolving sounds, but I worry it will be overhwelming - too many options, menu diving, etc. - I don't know if I'd have the patience for it.
Well played Korg, welcome back in the game, we shall say.
Loopop always the best reviewer, subscribe to him!
I like this synth, like new korg, take my subscribe.
Пацаны, пацаны, реально рад за коржей, есть их гитарный тюнер, 16 лет работает, все четко.
Very good tutorial. I just recently purchased one of these great machines, but there was only a very abridged manual added.. So by watching this video I can learn much more about this magic music box with all the capacities it contains!
Great review as always! Thanks Loopop!
Im shinning shoes at weekends for this :)
Nice. Now go get your fucking shinebox!
This is basically a Berlin Schooler's or Steve Reich fan's dream come true it looks like...
More likely Steve's nightmare. He once swore off of soft synths and non analog gear because he forsaw people grabbing a program or machine and making inroads....his sales not too high lately, I enjoy the personal feel of his attitude and sound. I want to emulate his stuff a bit, must admit. No one has a strangle hold on a sound anymore, very personal. I like my own as well as certain others? Allrighty then!
Seriously you should make a video for all the other reviewers on how to review!
This video was incredibly helpful Thank you!!
I just bought a Minilogue xd and when I saw this video thumbnail, not knowing what it was yet, I immediately got scared and thought "nooooo!". I was thinking I would want this instead... upon watching this video I'm thinking "nope, I'm definitely good with the xd" :)
this unit has no aftertouch, so I'm hoping for a module.
They are very different synths. The minilogue is more for basic bread and butter synth sounds, this is for more convoluted and evolving textural sounds.
@@MrBothandNether It supports aftertouch over MIDI. You could connect a Keystep to it and have aftertouch.
@@sacredgeometry I'd say it can do a lot more than the "bread and butter" stuff, especially with the custom oscillator section. Also, love your name. :)
"The best gear is the gear you already own."
- Oscillator Sink
How does this compare with Argon8? Or is it different synthesis formats?
Edit: Though I can see the sound is completely different to Argon8
6:30 This keybed has no aftertouch, but can be triggered by another keybed with poly or regular aftertouch
Totally different synthesis.
@@CharlesFerraro Yeah, it's pretty easy to confuse wavetable synthesis and this wavestation thing.
@@mikeexits Well in ways the two methods can be pretty similar. I do a technical deep dive somewhere on my channel into how granular, wave sequencing, and wavetables can be pretty similar!
A cool and very professional review as usual. Thanks!
Got mine a month ago. Love it. Love it more thanks to this tutorial
At first I was hooked. But then I was like I have the wavestation app on my iPad that I never use.
After Nothings End Because it was an App and not an hardware synth.
CO5MA You should check out some of the iOS apps out there. You’d be surprised how great some of them sound.
Although, I always find hardware feels and sounds better, but isn’t this digital, “software in a box”? The $800 price point surprised me, I was expecting around the $650 price point. I preordered mine, but wasn’t given a ship date.
After Nothings End I have tons of hardware synths and tons of VST/Apps on my MacBook and iPad. But at the end of the day, when i need/want instant fun, I only use my hardware synths or my modular. I love Falcon, Omnisphere, Dexed, Animoog, Korg Gadget... but I could not live without my Waldorf Quantum or my Elektron Digitone :)
Well, if you have a 500 dollar sound card and a 1.5 k computer you can make a 50 dollar program rock your world. Or just buy a piece of gear and have at it. I love choices.
AUM and many iOS great synth apps allows you to construct 4,6,8-part multi-timbral synths/arps/seqs. But hardware is always more fun - turning real knobs is much easier.
Basically - Alchemy in the box.
They don't have much in common.
This review was so good Holy how. I gotta re-watch it probably several times. And I probably will
hats off sir, yours is a review this beast deserves. didn't see much even coming close :)
I hope they do a desktop version of this.
Same here. I want this hardware and workflow, but I need another keyboard in my studio like I need an extra hole in my head.
Yes who wants 20 keyboards in his studio!
@@starwars007oele 🤚🏾
Hakuna Matata me, I wish even more 😅😝
Hakuna Matata meee!so i could play everyone immitialy and „together“(robotarm upgrade😁)
I’m curious about compatibility with old Wavestation patches. Looks like this has the classic stuff so...?
Not going to be directly compatible, but you could reconstruct the wavesequences since it has all the original waveforms. So you could create similar patches. The storage architecture for patches/performances is also very different so making a software translation tool would be extremely difficult.
Wavesequencer cue: oscillator sink! 😂
Wow! Great work as always! This thing is a beast, I am shocked!!
Thank you so much for this video!!! I will be watching this many times. The Wavestate is very complex, but I'm ready to learn.
DAMN! What an amazing synth! And what a great surprise!
Made useless for me by such a small but painfully unfortunate detail @41:08
No user samples.
Yes I saw this too ); amazing sounds nonetheless
....ouch....ya...that would be a nobrainer........dealbreaker....:(
They now gave us the ability to import our own user samples
8:11 So this is the synth they do all those *NEWS ALERT* music with. I see.
Pre-ordered! Thanks loopop as usual great video
Thanks Ron!
Brilliant review Ziv !... quite an versatile little box.. sounds great..
the ambient jam nerds on Reddit will love this.
says the headmaster." Let the feast begin!