Bad Gear - Korg Wavestate

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @AudioPilz
    @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +13

    Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
    Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz
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    • @TheSpectralArtisan
      @TheSpectralArtisan 9 місяців тому

      Just bought an old Roland W-30, dont know if you have already reviewed one... but with the need for as stack of old floppy disks to load on separate patches- personally however upgraded to the less antiquated emulator usb drive... there are 8 separate output ports on the rear and well... its a good time🤪

    • @TheKorgborg
      @TheKorgborg 9 місяців тому

      Korg RK-100S 2 Red, u know you want to, please where an Japan headband when doing the episode, if it isnn't bad gear you can always make a campy bad, gear revieuw abouot it, its just how you put the punctioation

    • @flomojo2u
      @flomojo2u 7 місяців тому

      I bought a WS MkII thanks to this video... It's amazing. I got it off eBay for $500 in brand-New condition, though it was listed as having been opened. I haven't tried to use the plug-in discount code, so perhaps it was that cheap for a reason, but I'm more than happy with the hardware. Being tied to a PC was never my use case.
      Thanks to BG for helping to grow my collection!

  • @stevekirkby6570
    @stevekirkby6570 2 місяці тому +10

    I don't believe this falls into the category of bad gear. Love it, and the Modwave.

    • @straighttalk2069
      @straighttalk2069 Місяць тому +1

      It doesn't but korgs BAD PRACTISE of creating a plugin version that is identical to the hardware only months after the initial launch of the hardware was so bad it was evil.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Місяць тому +1

      @@straighttalk2069
      Is that really a problem? VSTs and hardware synths are technically separate parts of a market, and even if a VST for a synth exists a lot of people are still hardware die-hards. I know I'd rather have physical knobs to turn than have to faff about with a mouse and virtual knobs.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber Місяць тому +1

      There's quite a few bad gear episodes on gear that isn't actually bad, but to get on the show a piece of gear just has to have a sufficiently large amount of complaints. Sometimes a synth is great but has an odd quirk that some people can't look past (Roland TB-3), or has a bit of a learning curve (Moog DFAM), or just happens to be difficult to fit into the current trendy genre (Novation Bass Station 2), or might be limited compared to significantly more expensive synths even if it's perfectly fine for its price point (the entire Korg Volca line).

  • @AnalogOne-jams
    @AnalogOne-jams 9 місяців тому +33

    You are absolutley right that editing takes up as much of my time as pausing your videos to read the memes 😂

  • @cautionseaman
    @cautionseaman 9 місяців тому +140

    It may have something to do with growing up during the 90s but the sounds and sequences that come from the station/state seem to just naturally resonate with me on a semi-subconscious level. No other synth does that for me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +18

      I can relate to that!

    • @bitterpearls
      @bitterpearls 9 місяців тому

      I feel this. I want to returnnnn

    • @qpasas
      @qpasas 9 місяців тому +3

      thats true

    • @BeatsByJarel
      @BeatsByJarel 7 місяців тому

      Same

    • @cemgulpunk
      @cemgulpunk 2 місяці тому

      true and Roland JP8000.

  • @JeffPalmer83
    @JeffPalmer83 9 місяців тому +14

    The trick with the hardware is that the knobs change the display to whatever they relate to. I love programming sounds on the Wavestate hardware!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Agreed!!!

    • @BeatsByJarel
      @BeatsByJarel 7 місяців тому +1

      Same here man ..ath the beginning was really hard to program when I first got it on 2021...but I been practicing everyday since.. I make some great patches on it .. I had read the manual like 30 times already😂... wavestate requires alot knowledge is not for everybody

  • @piggosalternateaccount4917
    @piggosalternateaccount4917 9 місяців тому +13

    Many UA-camrs i've never been early enough to be watching during their height but AudioPilz is already going damn strong and only at 100k - much further to go, fuckin awesome channel

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @ChrisSmout
    @ChrisSmout 9 місяців тому +19

    Really digging the Retro Goth Rave track, particularly as I've been playing a lot of Cyberpunk lately!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @marcbrasse747
    @marcbrasse747 9 місяців тому +15

    The hardware might be “mwaah” but the sound is truly expensive. I totally underestimated it until I found Maik Schott’s channel. Especially his Trevor Horn soundset blows my mind. It’s the first time I have actually contemplated to buy a synth specifically for a soundpack! Need I say more!😎

    • @-The-Darkside
      @-The-Darkside 9 місяців тому

      I find his sounds massively overrated. Very thin compared to real synths.
      I have one and some of his packs.

    • @KA0T
      @KA0T 9 місяців тому

      Same. He sold me the wavestate.

    • @marcbrasse747
      @marcbrasse747 9 місяців тому

      @@-The-Darkside all a matter of taste, I gues. 😁

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Nice, gotta check it out!!!

  • @SkyWolfZero
    @SkyWolfZero 9 місяців тому +36

    I love my Wavestate….but yeah, I find the plug-in much easier to use to generate patches.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +9

      Yeah, a plugin fits the synth philosophy perfectly

    • @Bod8998
      @Bod8998 9 місяців тому

      I concur

    • @mb102
      @mb102 9 місяців тому +4

      Akai miniak was the first to make me feel like 20 cheap ass knobs and faders would be better than two to 4 tank like pieces. Wavestate is not at all a pickup and play tool. I own one amd still have not scratched the surface....I get too lost in re tooling what's there to even begin to make from scratch...
      I need to sit down and set it up for reggae, boom bap, techno..just don't fully get how to do so. Still fun....I think they are asses for not adding a cheap ass dvi port to hook to a touch screen or TV just saying...and mk2 ain't even a real mk2 oh well still love it

    • @mb102
      @mb102 9 місяців тому

      Also said all this before watching lol😂😂

    • @CatenationIndustrial
      @CatenationIndustrial 9 місяців тому

      ​@@docwhammoUse AI for what?

  • @brianschiller4053
    @brianschiller4053 9 місяців тому +12

    The Wavestation is my favorite digital synth. I got a Wavestate hoping to recreate my favorite Wavestation patches before the old synth gives up. They do require a lot of time and menu diving to create your own sequences. You are 100% right about the Wavestate keybed being crap!

    • @EHiggins
      @EHiggins 9 місяців тому +1

      It feels so weak and mushy XD

    • @auralplex
      @auralplex 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah it’s garbage

    • @amb13nt59
      @amb13nt59 9 місяців тому +1

      I have an original Wavestate, and am very disillusioned by it in general. Just three years after buying it, something has happened with pitch control; any performance will, out of the blue, go wonky with pitch. This is literally the junkiest piece of gear I’ve ever had…and I’m a huge Kori fan.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      👍👍👍

    • @23bit76
      @23bit76 9 місяців тому

      A flimsy piece of plastic very disappointed

  • @conradtm
    @conradtm 9 місяців тому +12

    It's interesting to see the direction some of these synths end up going with their UX. The underlying mantra I was always taught was "be friendly to both experts and novices alike," but much of the time it feels like they either leave the experts to menu dive on a early 00s cell phone screen or they leave the novices to be overwhelmed by the complexity. Often both.

    • @zurlocker1
      @zurlocker1 9 місяців тому +1

      It is strange to me that when they went to MK II and the SE larger keybed they didn't expand the size of the screen.

    • @systemicchaos3921
      @systemicchaos3921 9 місяців тому +1

      I feel so lucky with my novation summit when I see some of these synths. Menu diving can be such a chore

    • @presteign1113
      @presteign1113 9 місяців тому +2

      This, IMO, is the biggest downside of the single platform shared by Wavestate, Opsix, and Modwave. The Opsix UX fits beautifully within the constraints posed by its screen, but once you move from FM to wave sequencing, it’s not quite enough. Now a Wavestate with the screen from a Korg Nautilus…

    • @JonesyTheCat
      @JonesyTheCat 9 місяців тому

      Is something similar to Wavestate available in Nautilus?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      It’s quite a challenge

  • @AlexNes
    @AlexNes 9 місяців тому +3

    Who else had the kneejerk reaction that Florian was going to play Join Me from HIM at 1:17? :D

  • @michaelbarakat3856
    @michaelbarakat3856 8 місяців тому +2

    I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek and also that some of this is very true commentary.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  8 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @zurlocker1
    @zurlocker1 9 місяців тому +3

    Great review. That second jam sounded like Jean Michel Jarre! Now we know his secret weapon!

  • @andrewlecouteurbisson7217
    @andrewlecouteurbisson7217 9 місяців тому +5

    That "Gameboy Display" is "War & Peace" to Roland's usual efforts :)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Lol, so true

    • @tonystevenson26
      @tonystevenson26 9 місяців тому

      Ensoniq Mirage was the best screen, ever !

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald2861 9 місяців тому +12

    An accurate assessment Florian, but for a hobbyist like me the presets in my MK I version on their own provide a stunning palette of highly customizable sounds, and the UI works very well with all of them - no need to resort to the editor. Finally, used MK I Wavestates can now be had for around US $400 in great condition, which makes this machine a great deal in my view.

  • @Iceleben
    @Iceleben 9 місяців тому +6

    I love both the Plug-In and Hardware. Preproduction on the Plug In, export to HW and you can play live with it… great concept and I would love to own the SE but it’s way to expensive

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Nice approach!!!

  • @sashosfhc
    @sashosfhc 9 місяців тому +2

    Pausing Florian's youtube to read the memes should definitely be a bigger pie piece!

  • @justjoeblow420
    @justjoeblow420 9 місяців тому +4

    Oh god I feel called out about the pausing to read the meme's thing being hidden in a meme. Well played meta fuck about on your part. I still want one, but then again half the reason I want a Korg Nautilus was for the Wave sequencing support on it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      These workstations are quite a rabbithole

    • @justjoeblow420
      @justjoeblow420 9 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz I know and I really like them for that, but apparently that makes me weird in some folks eyes.

  • @vbarr67
    @vbarr67 9 місяців тому +2

    "Pausing Florian's video to read the memes" lol :D I have to go backwards so much to re-listen to the full sentences because I keep pausing and loose track :D But they're so funny ! Great video again, thank you for your hard word that is so refreshing !

  • @yeahright73
    @yeahright73 9 місяців тому +12

    NGL, I loved my Wavestation EX. I love my Wavestate even more. Should it be your only synth? Probably not, but I suppose you could make do, it's more versatile than you would think. It's still the most epic evolving pad and drone machine this side of a eurorack rig.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +2

      That sums it up nicely!!!

    • @jamesdefrancesco7765
      @jamesdefrancesco7765 9 місяців тому +1

      I still have my EX!

    • @yeahright73
      @yeahright73 9 місяців тому

      @@jamesdefrancesco7765 I seriously considered keeping mine, but the backlight was gone and I was able to trade it for the Wavestate even up so...yeah. Is it exactly the same, no, does it fill the same niche, yep. That said, I cranked out some seriously deranged sounds with my EX!

    • @yeahright73
      @yeahright73 9 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz, when are you going to take the Eurorack plunge and do an episode on the Cre8audio NiftyBundle?

  • @WarrenPostma
    @WarrenPostma 9 місяців тому +5

    This channel is SO great. Love the memes and the solid musical sensibility. Also I died from laughing. The samples library of a bedroom producer. Ski Jam is the best preset of all time. Sue me. Jam at 7:36 is an all time great sounding track. Also sounds maybe like it came from a Genos2 style. Soooo. Do Genos2 soon?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @SmallWorldBigThings
    @SmallWorldBigThings 9 місяців тому +11

    I like these medium/small size series of synths from Korg.... a lot of nice and unique functions... and sound always is very "usable". Multitembrality in Wavestate is nice feature every synth should have (at least these digital should have)... however the keyboard is a huge downside of this devise. Good review!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @petermgruhn
      @petermgruhn 9 місяців тому

      I'm not sure '"usable'" is the praise you might think it to be.

    • @SmallWorldBigThings
      @SmallWorldBigThings 9 місяців тому

      @@petermgruhn I know what are prices for these synths.

  • @joonglegamer9898
    @joonglegamer9898 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey that's my synth :) Well I got the 64 Poly version. But it's not as bad as a lot of people seem to think. It's lightweight, which means you can use it on your lap or in bed, or in a chair/sofa etc, and you'd want to if you wanna learn it and dive deep. And Deep it is! One of the things I've hoped for is that since it's Raspberry Compute module 3B based - is that Korg would eventually let the modding community have at it, meaning release the Synth for Open Source modding, that would place Korg in the history of synths nicely, would be a good idea.
    I was one of the lucky early adopters that got it for about 500$ so that wasn't that expensive to me, but 1000$ ? thats a hard sell, nevermind 2300$ that's an impossible sell. Especially since it's very cheap to build with a processor that was created for bedroom developers to begin with.
    What I like about it is actually the knobs. You can program 8 of them to do anything you want, any parameter can be set to those 8 white knobs you see there, so you can literally create your own "customized synth", because it does have a LOT of parameters to adjust. You can "simulalte midi-delay", which means you can simulate an old synth setup you've seen in a 80s music video, for example I re-created the intro FM'ish synth from Europe's "Carrie" song to perfection, and it took 30 mins to do so - in fact, once you know how to operate this synth, it's actually incredibly intuitive, because every know is menu-context sensitive, meaning - you twist a knob, and it will directly take you to the corresponding menu - no need to dive too much, just learn that workflow and you'll be up and running faster than imagined, this is new to most traditional synth owners since they are used to the old way of menu diving, most synths don't have a "direct-from-knob-to-menu" functionality this one have, goes for ModWave too!
    But yeah, I agree that it could easily have been sold for 300$ and it would have been a huge hit. The most appealing thing about this synth is exactly the layout and knobs (minus the dinky display, which is oled, and prone to line-failure, missing / garbled lines in the display) sadly.
    But here's a protip for those who complains about it having too thin sound: If you go to the reverb menu settings, and scroll down, there's a secret - the HQ FILTER settings, here you can adjust the entire frequency range and get as much OOMPF as you'd ever want or your speakers can handle. Very little known well hidden secret, enjoy!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      I'd love to see a HackState too!!!

  • @djdarksidejungle559
    @djdarksidejungle559 9 місяців тому +7

    yes the only synthesizer that i actually fell in love with and got mine sat right nextr to me turned on best thing i like about this synth is the one finger jams cause it is eseentially a 4 peice band really and the modulation as well thats a whole new level ive had mine 3 yeares and im just a bit better trhen a novice but i love it me for making banging techno jams

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      1 finger jams 4 life!!!

    • @djdarksidejungle559
      @djdarksidejungle559 9 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz it does them so well thats why i love it me

    • @patrickfitzgerald2861
      @patrickfitzgerald2861 9 місяців тому

      Yep . . . 👍👍👍

    • @djdarksidejungle559
      @djdarksidejungle559 9 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz well you know dan phillips anyway wahat a guy man me and him argue about ukraine but its dan phillip0s brain child so big shout out to dan phillip0s for been so awesome and coming up with wavestate

    • @-The-Darkside
      @-The-Darkside 9 місяців тому +1

      Same bud , for solo artists it's pretty great. I do have fun setting up 4 patches with the key parameters and bringing in new sounds as you play. Once the sounds are on you don't need a computer to play it etc.

  • @GoneComposer
    @GoneComposer 8 місяців тому +1

    You're videos are like the Korg Wavestate MkII : beautiful outside, incredibly deep and rich, delightful inside (yes I love this synth)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  8 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @amethystlegion
    @amethystlegion 9 місяців тому +3

    100% agree - Wavestate Native and Modwave Native are awesome, but the hardware synths - my impression is I would probably actually be using the software to program them too, and not the knobs and buttons.

  • @Soundwrecker
    @Soundwrecker 9 місяців тому +1

    FINALLY my continuous pausing of your videos to read the memes has been referenced in a meme! I had to hit pause twice to read that one.!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      ❤️❤️❤️

  • @soilentmichi
    @soilentmichi 3 місяці тому +1

    Wieder einmal phantastisch, kurzweilig, informativ, sehr geil vielen Dank

  • @EHiggins
    @EHiggins 9 місяців тому +2

    I waited so long for this during Covid. I open up the box and there is a piece of cardboard stuck to it saying "Hey try random!". That was pretty much all the documentation you got. The rest was electrical warnings.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Lol, still better than a Roland manual

    • @EHiggins
      @EHiggins 9 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz true

  • @Leiska27
    @Leiska27 9 місяців тому +3

    Thank you! Now I can truly feel satisfied with my financial decisions.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Always a pleasure;)

  • @thewistfulsnail
    @thewistfulsnail 9 місяців тому +2

    The sounds you achieved from this synth go beyond my comprehension! There are some synths I know I'm not ready for and this is one of them!

    • @DoctorNemmo
      @DoctorNemmo 9 місяців тому +2

      You'll never be ready for the Wavestate. The Wavestate will be ready for you.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Definitely worth accepting the challenge

  • @mutablebody
    @mutablebody 9 місяців тому +3

    My bad gear infinity gauntlet nears completion... I've owned two of these. Sold the first because it was buggy and made me mad, despite the fact that it does things expensive workstation keyboards don't do. Missed it enough to trade for another one, even though I had the plugin. The button/knob layout makes programming modulation really fun! Pretty hard to find good orchestral multisamples in a portable keyboard. Also, modulating the speed of the timing lane can make it go so fast that it crashes. Normally the "speed" multiplier only goes up by 2-4x at most, but you can send it modulation from one of the knobs that go to 600x. Riding the wave of 98% CPU usage delivers some really wild tones. It's like DFAM's tempo knob cranked all the way up, but then you slow it down and reveal not pounding analog drums, but saxophone squawks and the sounds of people screaming, and like swords and stuff. This thing sucks. It's one of my favorite synths.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +3

      "This thing sucks. It's one of my favorite synths." - spot on!!!

  • @ShaunBartone-e8w
    @ShaunBartone-e8w 9 місяців тому +2

    Ok Florian, I have the first Wavestate ($425 used) and the VST. They don't sound the same, and I prefer the sound of the hardware. I also have the Wavestation VST, and Wavestate is definitely a successor but goes well beyond it. Korg and Yamaha are about the only companies still making multi-timbral synths or 'workstations'. Yes, it's 90s style sounds, but hey, the 90s were fucking awesome, compared to the Lost Decade of the Millennium when music all but died. The Wavestate is my Psybient, Psytrance synth, and it does a fantastic job with those genres. Playing it is pure enjoyment (the keyboard is just fine); it's my 'desert island' synth. Loved your final jam!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for the heads up!!!

  • @jamesmcn0000
    @jamesmcn0000 9 місяців тому +4

    I suspect the Wavestate's "cheap" plastic case will stand up at least as well as the Poly800. Korg knows how to make low cost synths.

    • @PorchBass
      @PorchBass 9 місяців тому +2

      I've had 3 poly 800s and gave up trying to keep them working

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Poly800 is made for postapocalyptic use;)

  • @KooriGraywolf
    @KooriGraywolf Місяць тому +1

    Can I just say, I also loved the use of JoJo's torture dance on the final jam

  • @InFamousProductions
    @InFamousProductions 9 місяців тому +2

    So I'm still not understanding the difference between the MK I and II. I have the MK I and love the thing. it's just an infinite sound generator. . Using the editor really takes it to a more logical place as you can see how it affects what and where. After using it for a while, the randomizer can be used and then "fixed" so that it will become killer. I will also say that the plugin sounds different than the hardware. a lot different to me. but great review and look at it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      More polyphony, more stock samples

  • @SonicVibe
    @SonicVibe 9 місяців тому +1

    keep climbing the algorithm my friend much deserved !

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @Blackholeheart
    @Blackholeheart 9 місяців тому +3

    I think Florian is spying on my package deliveries, he keeps making videos about devices right after I buy one.😆

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +3

      You know too much

    • @tonystevenson26
      @tonystevenson26 9 місяців тому +2

      Look outside your window, UPS is out there

    • @stevenormandin2059
      @stevenormandin2059 9 місяців тому +2

      be AWARE you might be BLACKMAILED by the EVIL god of SYNTH ! LOL :)

  • @VisVitalisDJ
    @VisVitalisDJ 9 місяців тому +5

    I own Yamaha SY22 and still loving vector synths since I got it. For me it is a great addition to the ever returning copied and same waveshapes from subtractive synthesis. And I like the cold but digital character to spice up the setup. Creativity serves and Audiopilz is the proof of this. This three jams got me and was exciting once again. Damn hot shit. Well done Florian. Only critic is the lame intro but who cares. I will experiment with my golf ball again on the SY. See you next time.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +2

      SY22 is really nice!!!! Thanks!!!

    • @0e0
      @0e0 9 місяців тому

      there is something about the no bullshit layer tones from that thing that really work for hooks and stuff

  • @omedome2787
    @omedome2787 2 місяці тому

    My wavestate keeps surprising me, love it, sounds great. Build quality not very good and frustrating to edit but worth it.

  • @Dudderlyful
    @Dudderlyful 9 місяців тому +2

    A friend let me use his for a bit and it was impenetrable. Homestly not very fun to use but kudos to Korg for making it. The plugin is the way to go for sure though! Happy Friday! No more work for the year! 😊

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Have a nice weekend!!!

  • @benitoe.4878
    @benitoe.4878 9 місяців тому +2

    Ha, again I'm saved! For the moment I thought I saw my Modwave. Puh...

  • @shthouserat
    @shthouserat 9 місяців тому +1

    i knew my project would make it to this channel eventually! (the volca in the cavity)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for that one!!!

  • @danhat606
    @danhat606 8 місяців тому +1

    You're really spoiling us with the memes on this one!!!

  • @user82938
    @user82938 9 місяців тому +1

    One thing I do know: if I'm ever in Wien, I am visiting Klangfarbe!

  • @carloslavina9779
    @carloslavina9779 9 місяців тому +1

    nice thing the new comments over black background. love ur videos

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thank you!!! Night mode FTW!!!

  • @IanWaugh
    @IanWaugh 9 місяців тому +3

    Great vid 👍 An amazing machine, totally unnecessary remake, terrible display and keyboard, vastly over-priced.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      That sums it up nicely

    • @IanWaugh
      @IanWaugh 9 місяців тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Maybe I could write your scripts 😄

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot 9 місяців тому +3

    And you edit all this yourself? Do you ever leave the house?😮

  • @AJStudios18
    @AJStudios18 9 місяців тому +1

    i think the best selling point of this thing is the pure range of sound and modulation! definitely the hardest synth ive had to learn though

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Yeah, it can be quite a challenge!!!

  • @Dubsteppah
    @Dubsteppah 9 місяців тому

    One of the best and most fun music channels on all of UA-cam. I can only dream of getting my hands on most of these pieces of kit.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @TheSpectralArtisan
    @TheSpectralArtisan 9 місяців тому +3

    Regardless of how good Bad Gear already is as a show... is it ever that much better when you actually have one of them! 😆

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Happy to hear that!!! Thanks!!!

  • @jona_KardCiv1
    @jona_KardCiv1 7 місяців тому +2

    I actually bought this, and then returned it. It sounded great and did some really cool stuff. It was a nightmare to program though. You don't sound design it. It designs you.

  • @danwentz
    @danwentz 8 місяців тому +1

    Great stuff! I have the Modwave and Opsix. Especially when used live, the advantage with hardware versions are they allow you to seemlessly change patches while holding down keys.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  8 місяців тому

      Thank you!!! Agreed!!!

    • @pratyulmusic
      @pratyulmusic 5 місяців тому

      Which among Modwave, opsix and Wavestate would you say is easier to operate ?

    • @danwentz
      @danwentz 5 місяців тому

      @@pratyulmusic Korg did an amazing job on all of them, but Opsix is probably the easiest to operate, but it isn't as deep. Modwave being a combination of subtractive/wavetable synth with sampling is the most complex of the three.

    • @pratyulmusic
      @pratyulmusic 5 місяців тому

      @@danwentz thank you

  • @slipknotboy555
    @slipknotboy555 9 місяців тому +2

    Great as always!
    The Wavestates are pretty appealing to me, despite some of the shortcomings. The Modwave seems pretty cool, too. Not that I have the money for them, though, heh.

    • @dankeplace
      @dankeplace 9 місяців тому +1

      Wavestate is a horrible synth to program, you need to have it tethered to a pc for best results.
      If you can get an OG unit cheap, then it's a good machine to get some variations, but that 2 inch screen is horrible.
      I wouldn't touch the SE which is 3 times what I paid for an OG unit and sounds exactly the same, diff is AT and extra voices, certainly not worth 4 times more.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dankeplace Yeah, there's no way I'd get one of the SEs/similar (unless money was no object to me). But the UI of the Wavestate is at least a lot more hands on than that of the Wavestation. And even if I'd use the software for editing (which I'm not even sure about) - hey, at least that's an option.
      But again, I don't even have the money for a synth right now, haha

    • @dankeplace
      @dankeplace 9 місяців тому +1

      @@slipknotboy555 The Wavestate is much better than the Wavestation for UI BUT it only has 4 lanes of sequencing vs 8.
      The software with the Wavestate is the only real way to program and is a breeze to do so, on that 2 inch screen it's a nightmare.

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 9 місяців тому

      @@dankeplace Yeah, that makes sense

  • @pontram
    @pontram 9 місяців тому +1

    As so often on your channel - wonderful tracks ! Thanks for the priceless lesson !

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @SmallWorldBigThings
    @SmallWorldBigThings 9 місяців тому +2

    No no no... only Dawless ;)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Dawless is the way!!!

  • @ldvno87
    @ldvno87 7 місяців тому

    Dude the end song in this one was legitimately sick, though I'm a 90s goth kid, so I may be a bit biased! 😂

  • @lX-NDR
    @lX-NDR 9 місяців тому +2

    vsti,s gives you way more control then most synths. integration with the tools your daw gives you makes you a powerhouse

  • @tomalaerts8839
    @tomalaerts8839 9 місяців тому +1

    I was tempted by the wavestate plugin during korg’s half price sale at black friday. But got Diva instead as that one is almost never on sale! Now I am convinced to get it indeed during Korg’s next sale!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Definitely worth giving it a shot!

  • @moviescolin
    @moviescolin 9 місяців тому +2

    Hilarious. I bought a Wavestate for big lush, soundscape-y pads but ultimately sold it and use the plugin version instead. I just couldn't get the hang of it and wanted to invest in other hardware instead. Super happy with the plugin version though, it sounds identical and is a bit easier to navigate from a computer screen instead. Just as you said in the outro, I find myself using it more often and more musically as a plugin than I ever did in the hardware version. I would just scroll presets and not really do anything with the menus, but the plugin layout makes it easier to create custom sounds and actually see what you're doing lol

  • @powermix24
    @powermix24 9 місяців тому +2

    I have all 3 and they are amazing synths i get it, the interface is not all friendly, neither is the Octatrack BUT MY BIGGEST complaint is that the knobs on the hardware DOESN'T move the software, TR-8s is a great example on how a Software controls the Hardware and vice versa. Nice Bad Gear as always

  • @Nova_Afterglow
    @Nova_Afterglow 9 місяців тому

    thank you for the night version. my cones and rods appreciate it 6:21

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Sometimes hate research has to take place late at night;)

  • @autecheee
    @autecheee 9 місяців тому

    9:37 You have validated my purchase a year ago (Wavestate Native software)….which I do not regret and still am amazed at generating B.edazzling A.spirational D.iminsions of sonic tones and chopped sequences with this software gear. My fav. For generating Berlin TD sequences and pad.

  • @shnixbot
    @shnixbot 9 місяців тому

    Dear FlowRyan, one of your best videos/jams! I dig that 90s goth you name it thing. Love it, love you. Your Piefke from another border ❤

  • @CashMattock
    @CashMattock 9 місяців тому +1

    5:05 Opossum-bilities

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      ❤️❤️❤️

  • @kassemir
    @kassemir 9 місяців тому

    gotta say, that aphex twin meme with axl rose in it insted, A+ :D

  • @jezza8558
    @jezza8558 9 місяців тому +1

    Great episode as usual! I had a wavestate, I loved it and hated it with equal measure. It was everything I wanted but didn't have the time to learn in a box 😄 I much prefer the VST and as soon as It came out I sold my hardware version. I personally think it will be a classic but its its menu diving will forever be a thorn in its cheaply made plastic side.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

    • @-The-Darkside
      @-The-Darkside 9 місяців тому

      That's cool if it want to turn your computer and stare at a screen on every time you want to play music.

    • @patkelly8309
      @patkelly8309 9 місяців тому

      @@-The-Darkside " A Screen-On "" Sounds a bit rude

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 9 місяців тому +1

    09:16 pleased/slightly meta ashamed to pause and read the ''Life of a Home Producer - Pausing Florian's youtube to read the memes" meme
    Have switched on a synth out of embarrassment 😅

  • @SuperPillage
    @SuperPillage 9 місяців тому +1

    I use the plugin when im not in my studio. I use the wavestate editor with the hardware to sound design in the studio. I use the hardware when I play live. Its the perfect setup. And i think im going to do the same with the minifreak soon.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Nice approach!!!

  • @sophiepooks2174
    @sophiepooks2174 9 місяців тому +2

    Even when Hulk Hogan pulls a Wavestate out of a tree and you are still not sure if you want it 😂 When WS for first on sale I spent ages trying to find a reason to justify buying it as was not into soundtracky music and the learning curve and fiddly UI didn't appeal, 2 years later ended up buying the VST when it was on sale am happy I have it in my collection for when the mood strikes without the hassles of intense menu diving and more keys.😎💃

  • @djreddy666
    @djreddy666 9 місяців тому +1

    My man! This is THE best Channel EVERRRRRRRR! Love your stuff man 🙂

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @hdslave
    @hdslave 7 місяців тому +2

    Programming this might be more intimidating than an Octatrack

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  7 місяців тому

      It is to a certain degree...

  • @Bkoded
    @Bkoded 9 місяців тому

    that filter modulation stuff on the first jam was super cool

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @llittlegreyhound
    @llittlegreyhound 9 місяців тому +1

    You are the best, I thoroughly enjoyed this as well as your cameo on Bob Eats. You should cover the new TE EP-133, that is, if you are lucky and find a working one lol. "Hence forth, thou shall be known as.. Darth Fader" 😂

  • @alessandroferrazzi6738
    @alessandroferrazzi6738 9 місяців тому

    I think I’ve pressed pause in your videos more times than I did on every other UA-cam video I’ve ever watched

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Way of the Bad Gear;) Thanks for watching!!!

  • @ApacheSenzala
    @ApacheSenzala 9 місяців тому

    for some reason I ended up looking up raspberry pi's website saw the Korg name as an industrial customer saw this synth listed as the final product and thought there must be a bad gear review and now I'm hear literally a day after its posted what awesome serendipity

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 9 місяців тому

      So you are saying that it must be bad gear if it uses a processor many times more powerful than what 99% of digital hardware synths get?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Don't forget to check out the OpSix episode!!!

    • @ApacheSenzala
      @ApacheSenzala 9 місяців тому

      nah I'm just saying if there is some synth gear then chances are there is a bad gear review@@Jason75913

    • @ApacheSenzala
      @ApacheSenzala 9 місяців тому

      also its korg of course there is a bad gear review ;) @@Jason75913

  • @303machine
    @303machine 8 місяців тому

    Fun fact: Famous "Sky Jam" preset was used by Jan Hammer's Virtual Reality track for Beyond The Mind's Eye computer animated movie.
    To bad that expensive Wavestate SE unlike its predecessor Wavestate EX and A/D (rack) have no vocoder. Good thing is that Wavestates have hands-on controls and expanded wave sequencing.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  8 місяців тому +1

      Love that movie!!!

  • @ExpendableSith
    @ExpendableSith 9 місяців тому +1

    Oh hey the user reviews segment is set to dark mode this week. That's neat.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Late night hate research;)

  • @atomicafro
    @atomicafro 9 місяців тому +2

    Keeping my 👀peeled on Reverb for the inevitable ~$350 blow out.

  • @edwin-zone
    @edwin-zone 9 місяців тому +1

    My goodness that intro spiel. High five.

  • @caydilemma3309
    @caydilemma3309 9 місяців тому +1

    I wouldn't pay full price for it due to the build quality, but the MK1 regularly goes for ~400 bucks used which I feel like is a pretty good deal if you enjoy hardware more or want to play live with it. The joystick is simple but a pretty major part of the sound and experience. In my opinion that makes it worth having the hardware unit if you can get a good deal on it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      400 bucks sounds about right!

  • @MrHarthecat
    @MrHarthecat 6 місяців тому

    9:17 "Pausing Florians youtube to read the memes"
    bruh... you got me

  • @mrfuzztone
    @mrfuzztone 8 місяців тому +1

    Great videos and sounds.
    I would like to see you put a UDO Super 6 and Waldorf Iridium to work making great sounds. I have high hopes for the outcome.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  8 місяців тому

      Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!

  • @Vim-Wolf
    @Vim-Wolf 9 місяців тому +1

    Original wavestation rack versions available for roughly the same price. Less portable, yes, but a lot of fun if you have a decent midi controller.

  • @Cysubtor_8vb
    @Cysubtor_8vb 9 місяців тому

    Like that Moog Mariana reference. Having been waiting for the Minitaur to restock, it was a pleasant surprise to see an official Moog bass soft synth for $49. Now, I've set my sights on the more readily available Subharmonicon.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Thanks!!! I really have to give that one a try!

    • @wrenchposting9097
      @wrenchposting9097 9 місяців тому

      ​@@AudioPilz Whenever you're in California you can borrow mine. lol.

  • @BrendaCreates
    @BrendaCreates 9 місяців тому

    The intro clip is same one for years now and it seems you never age (or change your clothes). I've conclued you must be an immortal.😊

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      It’s that healthy lifestyle;)

  • @deep6293
    @deep6293 9 місяців тому +1

    For an old guy that doesn't like software Synths, the size of the korg series is a big plus : a lot of hardware! Synths with little place needed.
    To me the wavestate is one of the best Synthesizers released in the last few years and so I bought a second one 😊.
    My only complaint is the small display. Korg missed the chance here with the se version.

  • @laurentbouchard6822
    @laurentbouchard6822 9 місяців тому

    The Korg Wavestation Ipad app + some sort of controller is cool, it makes the actual synth engine tweakable without going through as you said "this mariana trench of parameters" lol

  • @frenchy1138
    @frenchy1138 3 місяці тому

    Will we get a Modwave video to complete the set of Korg digital synths? Your OpSix video convinced me to commit to buying the new module... which is now delayed until October. Wouldn't be Korg is the didn't mess up their production somehow, I guess.

  • @hillie47
    @hillie47 9 місяців тому +1

    Seems like it could use the Iridium type of interface, lots of knobs, decent keys, large screen. As long as they glue it in properly of course.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Lol, shots fired;)

    • @hillie47
      @hillie47 9 місяців тому

      @@AudioPilz 2600 dollars for what is in essence a glorified special purpose computer that has it's screen fall out? It's not priced like a pocket operator (which have gone up quite a lot too!).

  • @dj_0xCD
    @dj_0xCD 9 місяців тому +1

    9:17 "Pausing Florian's youtube to read the memes"
    Hahaha, I've read it😂😂😂

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      ❤️😂❤️😂❤️😂

  • @montazownianr1
    @montazownianr1 9 місяців тому

    Great thing is that extra banks works with vst and hardware.

  • @DoctorNemmo
    @DoctorNemmo 9 місяців тому

    I love my Wavestate ! Didn't know that there was an MKII already. Theresa nice Korg editor that makes creating your wavesequences so much easier.
    In a couple of weeks the MC-505, now the Wavestate. I feel this is personal. What's next, Maschine+?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      You know too much;)

  • @ShakaCthulu
    @ShakaCthulu 8 місяців тому +1

    “Pausing Florian’s youtube to read the memes” lol, guilty.

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv 9 місяців тому +2

    It’s such a great synth. Especially if you send it your own .wav. Made it 100 times more useful, to me. But it’s not for everyone. It’s for "mod matrix nerds." You know who you are, you deviants. 👨‍🔬

  • @vardoger
    @vardoger 9 місяців тому

    You haven't done the Analog Rytm mkII yet have you? Now's the time! Put down four on the floor, smack up a dual vco bass track, lay down random trigs in minor pentatonic and turn on the euclidean mode. Eternal dancefloor baby!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому

      Nice!!! Great suggestion, thank you!!!

  • @samplidium
    @samplidium 9 місяців тому +1

    Jem Godfrey (Frost*) used 2 Wavestate in live condition on his last tour.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  9 місяців тому +1

      Wow, didn't know. Thanks for posting!!!

  • @mistersweatbandmusic
    @mistersweatbandmusic 9 місяців тому

    I really like the pad sounds

  • @williambrown319
    @williambrown319 9 місяців тому +1

    While i understand the just use the plug in, something about having physical control and keyboard just feels better to me personally. (And yes you've convinced me to get this one as well 😂)