How BAD is this $20 Subwoofer? Pyle PLQB10 Reviewed and Tested

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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    Recently I came across this Pyle PLQB10 subwoofer on the website Woot.com for $19.99 free shipping. I decided to pick up a couple of them so I could make a video as I was also very curious how bad this subwoofer was. For the price, I figured it was worth trying out.
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  • @wal
    @wal  Рік тому +45

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    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 Рік тому +2

      You can scare away raccoons with this. Just relabel it as a pest control device and sell it for 150 on Ebay.

    • @especialistqap
      @especialistqap Рік тому

      How much decibel ?

    • @kevinAuman1
      @kevinAuman1 Рік тому

      You sir are my hero!

    • @effectivetactics422
      @effectivetactics422 Рік тому +1

      Ahhhh…. Separated voice coil. Where every beat is a snare drum.

    • @cubanman2009
      @cubanman2009 Рік тому +2

      Hey try the solobaric subwoofers in those boxes !

  • @speedwayaudio3
    @speedwayaudio3 Рік тому +413

    Pyle was not always junk. Back in my time they made (for that time period) great amps, speakers, and subs. The they were bought out along with Lanzar and were turned to the crap we have today. Nothing sadder than that.

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +77

      Happened to a lot of the companies unfortunately

    • @danielknepper6884
      @danielknepper6884 Рік тому +34

      Pyle was out of Huntington Indiana. They advertised heavily in car audio magazines in the mid 80's

    • @DarkpawTheWolf
      @DarkpawTheWolf Рік тому +29

      Yep, their old school "Pyle Drivers" (a pun, I think, on the wrestling move - I can't remember the 80s wrestler that did it) were incredible, with huge magnets. They would often go head-to-head against Earthquake, back in the day.

    • @Fly2kill1
      @Fly2kill1 Рік тому +30

      Pyle has always been junk. They just had good advertising.

    • @dagriz
      @dagriz Рік тому +15

      Their concrete drivers really pounded back in the day.

  • @DARKDUDE187
    @DARKDUDE187 Рік тому +38

    Did you register them at Pyle? It would be interesting to see if they would honor their warranty seeing as you have documented evidence that they fail well short of their rated power levels. Wouldn't this be part of a review?

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 Рік тому +7

      I would love to see that. Have never seen any but American and Japanese made stand behind their product.

  • @MrV1NC3N7V3G4
    @MrV1NC3N7V3G4 Рік тому +708

    Worth the price for just the box! Put a decent woofer in there and tune/secure the ports and done.

    • @biggestcomplainer
      @biggestcomplainer Рік тому +55

      That’s what I thought

    • @FSXgta
      @FSXgta Рік тому +80

      Because it's so small though you could use a 8'' or 6.5'' instead and get a better response

    • @MacNifty
      @MacNifty Рік тому +69

      5 for 100!!! Sell all day with a 25.00 kenwood sub 250w...sit at the bus stop sell for 60..make $$$

    • @justinhiggins2210
      @justinhiggins2210 Рік тому +5

      Good point.

    • @GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi
      @GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi Рік тому +4

      Yup exactly what I was thinking about trying a different woofer but what woofer cause the box is kinda small for a better sub

  • @dslynx
    @dslynx Рік тому +8

    Not surprised you blew them both. 500w is always a joke with companies like that. RMS is probably more around 150w if you are lucky. A soon as I saw it hit 300w, I was thinking it was blown and then the clip light lit up.

  • @kaopua1972
    @kaopua1972 Рік тому

    Sad to see how this speaker went in reverse from our days to now. I remember when Pyles were used with pyramid gold series amps back in the 80’s. Shook a lot of silver dollars off the roofs.

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      I actually thought about trying a Gold Series in this box 🧐

  • @SOLDOZER
    @SOLDOZER Рік тому

    I remember sacking groceries in 1989 to save money for some subwoofers. I bought Pyle and they were Pile O Crap.

  • @63flip83
    @63flip83 Рік тому +2

    Wow…..that was worse than I thought it’d be. It’s a real shame. At one time Pyle built quality products including one of the best 6x9’s ever made.

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 Рік тому

    Some of the old school Pyle products in the 90s were excellent stuff. I can't speak on their modern offerings.

  • @formallynamed85
    @formallynamed85 Рік тому

    Big fat thumbs up just for being another person that remembers Ernest goes to jail and that line specifically well done sir

  • @jiveturkey947
    @jiveturkey947 Рік тому

    I have two Pyle Power subs I use in my garage stereo. One is an 8” and the other is a 10”. I don’t dare use them in my truck. The voice coils bottom out at low power. They’re ok for my garage stereo though.

  • @raymo6795
    @raymo6795 Рік тому

    i agree Big D, Five guys is brutal.This is not a piece I would buy, but I am glad there is something for every budget...the box alone is easily worth 20 bucks, throw a cheap Rockford in there and it might be a good sub for a beginner

  • @effectivetactics422
    @effectivetactics422 Рік тому

    I shop Woot all the time! They had a ton of Pyle stuff this week.

  • @k24hybrid
    @k24hybrid Місяць тому

    Hello! Did you make the US$ 70 enclosure test? I'd like to see your review about those cool looking dual speaker bandpass/acrylic enclosure. I find having the front of the speakers sealed is very awkward 😅. Thanks.

  • @MrXjoeharperx
    @MrXjoeharperx Рік тому

    For $20, shipped you basically get a free band pass enclosure you can rework.

  • @redflashgaming9804
    @redflashgaming9804 Рік тому +1

    you should put a powerfull 10 inch in there and just plast it til the plexyglass falles off would be fun to see!

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      😜👍

  • @BigBear21740
    @BigBear21740 Рік тому

    I was typing the Five Guys thing and then you spoke it into existence.

  • @ralphwiggum3134
    @ralphwiggum3134 Рік тому

    Yeah, when I first started buying car audio stuff when I started driving like 30 years ago, I bought Pyle and Pyramid junk at the flea markets and quickly learned they were all trash.

  • @RaspingPompano2
    @RaspingPompano2 Рік тому

    Remember when Walmart sold those Pink Pile amps?

  • @davidoverton2432
    @davidoverton2432 Місяць тому

    Would love to see a really decent budget woofer swapped to see if the box actually is decent

    • @wal
      @wal  Місяць тому

      It’s tuned way too high for use with the acrylic

  • @lickwidgoat3480
    @lickwidgoat3480 Рік тому

    Funny, a few years ago i never herd of pyle, now i own a reciver and a gutar both are pyle they are not too bad considering the price, but not for subs, i still have a pair of eclypse fron the 90s

  • @hondaxl250k0
    @hondaxl250k0 Рік тому

    Anyone remember the days of real RF and the punch 45 amp? And later kove Armageddon?? The good ole days.

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 Рік тому

    @2:36 - That ""Pyle" logo is embroidered. For the money, that doesn't look like a half-bad effort!

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      😬👍

  • @locotrucker46
    @locotrucker46 Рік тому +1

    The enclosure looks like it could be worth 20 bucks. Just toss the Pyle sub and put in a Fosgate or alpine sub and call it a day.

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +2

      Yeah it’s really small, best suited for a 6.5” IMO

  • @Carl-dj9wz
    @Carl-dj9wz Рік тому

    I'd love to see what happens when you put a crazy powerful sub in that enclosure

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +1

      We’ll make it interesting

  • @nickstalhood5380
    @nickstalhood5380 Рік тому

    That pyramid one sucks as well!!! I had two of them. The first one came with the enclosure damaged so Amazon sent me another set free of charge. Probably not the worst out there but definitely not good. Speakers were kinda pain to remove as well. I figured the pyle would suck ,but was hoping that enclosure was a bit bigger. Could always throw a better sub in an replace the plexiglass with a better piece, but that seemed really small for a 10.

  • @RebelByBlood316
    @RebelByBlood316 Рік тому

    Should have tried it with reasonable power knowing their inflated numbers. It's probably best around 50-100w max

  • @thedanyesful
    @thedanyesful Рік тому

    Harbor freight sells a #2 phillips screwdriver with like a 30" shaft for a few bucks.

  • @vinylcabasse
    @vinylcabasse Рік тому

    probably a defective VC from the get go. maybe not enough glue or something, no way it should be separated from the former like that so easily

  • @VeteranHardware
    @VeteranHardware Рік тому

    There's another Pyle deal on Woot right now for dual 10s in a ported box for $35! Go go...🤣🤣🤣

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      😜

  • @patarisman434
    @patarisman434 Рік тому

    Since you're really good with audio, I have some questions man. Anyway to contact you? Having some trouble getting some subs in the house to hit harder with music. But will rattle the house with a movie. Makes no sense lol

  • @SilverTRD
    @SilverTRD Рік тому

    Honestly, I’d like to see a kicker 10 in this enclosure just to see how it’d do!

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the suggestion

  • @terrenperez
    @terrenperez Рік тому +98

    $20 is worth the box. Put another sub in it. Maybe good for a home audio woofer

    • @tyronepalmer3708
      @tyronepalmer3708 Рік тому +5

      Yes keep the box, and then try and find a replacement Sub or a better quality Sub that would fit and sounds good for that size enclosure? [ MTX Blue Thunder, Kenwood Excelon Series Sub, Kicker Comp Sub ]

    • @Random_4400
      @Random_4400 Рік тому +2

      Yeah if your 10" requires the most bare-bones box.

  • @T_Burd_75
    @T_Burd_75 Рік тому +64

    The cabinet itself may not be that bad of a deal for that price. It would be interesting to see what happens when a real sub is installed and see if it can handle 1000+ watts without blowing the bass ports out or blowing off the Lexan panel.

    • @Random_4400
      @Random_4400 Рік тому

      The box will fall apart, you are lucky if this box survives a 300w sub to be honest 😂 going to need some heavy modifications if you actually want to use it with something properly.

    • @T_Burd_75
      @T_Burd_75 Рік тому +3

      @@Random_4400 Umm...yes...that was the point...

  • @BrianScheuring
    @BrianScheuring Рік тому +54

    A friend of mine has a set of 15” Pyle subs back in the early 90’s. They SLAMMED harder than anything around. As for today🤷🏼‍♂️. It’s amazing they can make an enclosure with a sub for $20 let alone sell it for $20 and make a profit. Junk or not. They figure for $20 no one’s gonna bitch.

    • @tyronepalmer3708
      @tyronepalmer3708 Рік тому

      Yes- I had 2- 15's Pro Pyle Subs, I never had any problems with them at all? Until they couldn't fit in my 95 Honda Accord? Had to get some 12's Kicker Solo in a Custom Sealed Small Box.

    • @gainerman
      @gainerman Рік тому

      No kidding ! How is that possible

    • @gainerman
      @gainerman Рік тому +2

      With shipping ! A large flat rate usps box shipping is 20 dollars

    • @g.n.4046
      @g.n.4046 Рік тому +1

      "Pyle Toobz" back in early 90's ! 👍👍

    • @Chris-yy7qc
      @Chris-yy7qc Рік тому +5

      Theyre not making any profit. The 20$ is the clearance price. It was priced at around 100$ originally.

  • @cHr1s204
    @cHr1s204 Рік тому +54

    I bought 2 of these, basically for the enclosures. I thought the subs would hold me over for a few weeks until I could afford to upgrade them. The little Rockville RXD-T2 I also bought on sale from Woot made little work of blowing these things. Now I've got a 10" Rockville K6 V2 on the way. Gonna throw that in one and see how it goes.

    • @theunknownandunsolved6963
      @theunknownandunsolved6963 Рік тому +4

      Sooooo? How did it go?

    • @ryzen397
      @ryzen397 Рік тому

      I've owned 4 rockville subs and they sound good at first but they rattle like ass next and blow.

    • @cHr1s204
      @cHr1s204 Рік тому +14

      @@theunknownandunsolved6963 Not good lol. The K6 was the wrong sub to go with. Even though it's 10" the cast aluminum basket is very beefy and the mount is just too big for these boxes. I bought a new cheap small sealed enclosure and I'm very satisfied with the K6.

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit 5 місяців тому

      @@ryzen397 design a proper box for them and reduce the power.

    • @xxskizzumxx
      @xxskizzumxx Місяць тому

      Everyone hates on Rockville, but I LOVE my Rockville amp, been running it hard for maybe 6 years on a old square kicker. Maybe the quality has dipped in recent years, but mine has been awesome

  • @RJSDZNS
    @RJSDZNS Рік тому +103

    Proof that Pyle really is a Pile!! 😂😂😂 Great tests D, love to keep them companies honest and keep our money where it belongs!

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +11

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @majicdude88
      @majicdude88 Рік тому +2

      Then you better say that about every brand, including the big ones like JL, who does a biblical level of lying (selling you a $1k+ W7 that cost $25 to make and is basically the same as any cheap sub, but claims it is "high in technology")

    • @MadDragon75
      @MadDragon75 Рік тому

      Too bad he didn't get to finish the test..🤣.

    • @MadDragon75
      @MadDragon75 Рік тому +1

      @@majicdude88 yeah.... but no.
      I'm rocking that dual slug Walmart $100 sub right next to my skar audio evl 12 and I'm using the JL Audio 500/1 monoblock to drive that Walmart sub so I'm not being so easy on it.
      Granted.. I have the scar on 1000 watt monoblock but still..... 😬 these results are very sad.

    • @MadDragon75
      @MadDragon75 Рік тому

      Didn't mention that it's like 3 years old and still flexes like day one?

  • @tylerscott9329
    @tylerscott9329 Рік тому +19

    These aren’t that bad if you only want to run around 100 watts rms to add a small amount of bass and they can reliably do that. Pyle rates them like they do their amps thinking you will pair them up and their 1000 watt amp only outputs maybe 200 watts peak. That 350 watts of power was just shredding it.

    • @atomicagegamer3693
      @atomicagegamer3693 Рік тому +2

      I was curious about that. How would it sound with a 150 watt load. Would it be reliable at that power level, etc.

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit 6 місяців тому

      Especially on a continuous tone generator, rather than the kick and bass hits of a pop song, which is how a lot of speakers get rated. They don't need to handle an endless drone tone of 500 watts, only Phil Rudd's kick drum that momentarily gets to 500 watts.

  • @davidsutton5266
    @davidsutton5266 Рік тому +6

    that box is worth 20 bucks even with no speaker

  • @510enator
    @510enator Рік тому +13

    The question I have is, would you think the enclosure by itself worth $20 dollars . A lot of spots want $100+ just for enclosure. I would rather spend $20 and toss the sun that came with it and put within spec a better sub

    • @avcproductions_ant_modrow
      @avcproductions_ant_modrow Рік тому +2

      i second this. lets do a sub change in this box lol

    • @baronvonlimbourgh1716
      @baronvonlimbourgh1716 Рік тому

      If you can find a sub that will work properly with those dimensions the box seems to be pretty decent, just a bit small whitch makes finding a driver harder. You'd have to do some modeling with the listed specs of multiple subs before buying a woofer.

    • @siler7
      @siler7 Рік тому

      20 dollars dollars

  • @RK-ci9nn
    @RK-ci9nn Рік тому +12

    Can't wait to see how this performs with a better subwoofer! Even for $100 if the box quality is good and is tuned right a subwoofer like a Skar SDR or more SQ Rockford Fosgate R2/P1 would sound amazing for less than $200.

    • @chrishernandez2490
      @chrishernandez2490 Рік тому +2

      Amazing? No. Better? Yeah I guess. I still think that enclosure size is way too small and trying to tune it lower your just going to end up losing a ton of output

    • @RK-ci9nn
      @RK-ci9nn Рік тому

      @@chrishernandez2490 That is a good point, but it depends on if you put some polyfill in and what the subwoofer's capable of running in such a small box.

  • @dnbaddict
    @dnbaddict Рік тому +49

    Wow! I really thought it would do a little better then that. At $20 that just about covers the price for the wood and carpet 😂 I was hoping you would put in a better woofer that could handle at least 400 watts and push it with out that thin plexiglass.

    • @ashton9699
      @ashton9699 Рік тому +2

      7:56

    • @dnbaddict
      @dnbaddict Рік тому +4

      If it can be pulled out then another woofer can be installed. It depends what he has on hand. A long extension attached to a drill could be used as well 😉

  • @exdime
    @exdime Рік тому +5

    This is why you break in a new sub! Joking lol. But 20 for just the enclosure isn't bad. Would like to see if it would holdup

  • @2011joser
    @2011joser Рік тому +5

    I ran 4 8” subwoofer set ups back in the late 80’s/ early 90’s and began with Pyle drivers. By the early 90’s they had fallen behind and I moved on to better brands. About 10 years ago I was in need of a pair of subs and I bought a pair of Pyle 8” subs along with a set of nos JL Audio 8”s just to see how Pyle was doing. The Pyles were absolutely horrible. They had a very low distorted output that could’ve come from a flea market woofer. I paid around $50 each but I let my son sell the pair for $20 so no one could feel ripped off. Pyle is just the worst of zombie audio brands now.

  • @audiokeller1975
    @audiokeller1975 Рік тому +16

    Cool video!!!!
    I think if you apply a steep 25Hz highpass filter that sub will last much much longer. This will prevent the woofer running way out of its XMax. i guess this woofer has around 100 - 150 watts rms.

    • @THX..1138
      @THX..1138 10 місяців тому +1

      Yup I'd say 125 watts max....On occasion Pyle puts out an honest spec sheet on their speakers. Generally they are lying about everything. RMS watts are 1/4 or less whatever's printed on the speaker or box it came in. Even the weight of the magnet is about 1/2 whatever they state. Frequency response for a 10 will be more like 35hz or higher....IMO the only thing Pyle are good for is to add a little base to a factory sound system. The sub in this vid added to a 10 watts per channel base model sound system would be a nice improvement. For anything else it's pure junk.

    • @audiokeller1975
      @audiokeller1975 10 місяців тому

      @@THX..1138 i remember the mid 90s when Pyle woofers were well known 👍

  • @XxXNyMpHoXxX
    @XxXNyMpHoXxX Рік тому +2

    Let's swap in a new sub and see how that sub box does.

  • @henryknox4511
    @henryknox4511 Рік тому +16

    First set of midrange I ever bought was Pyle back in 86, they were decent back then. Box looks like it's worth 20$ if you were in the need. Be nice to see a decent sub put in that like you mentioned.

    • @DeadKoby
      @DeadKoby Рік тому +1

      Pyle used to be an OK USA made speaker........once upon a time.

    • @henryknox4511
      @henryknox4511 Рік тому

      @@DeadKoby That's kinda what I said.

  • @drutang
    @drutang Рік тому +4

    $20 is good for the box considering the price wood👍🏼👍🏼

  • @lordhostile
    @lordhostile Рік тому +3

    there was a short time between 88-93 when Pyle was decent entry level brand, now they are on par with Kraco. I think the parent company licenses the name out to any company that produces garbage hoping ppl buy it out of nostalgia.

    • @Highrollinhunter
      @Highrollinhunter Рік тому

      Yep Pyle even made decent entry level guitar amps new Pyle guitar amps I heard sound like shit compared to peavey

  • @harleymclemore8335
    @harleymclemore8335 Рік тому +4

    I bought one of their 1k watt 15 inch subs and it lasted about 5 min and it never saw more then 300 watts. I had their pro series 4x6s and 6.5 components in my truck and they sounded pretty good even though I never gave them the 200 watts rms they said they would take . The magnets were 40oz on the 6.5s which was more then the subwoofer had.

  • @trepanier01
    @trepanier01 Рік тому +4

    The box is probably worth $20 at least

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +2

      That was my thoughts

    • @ksavage681
      @ksavage681 Рік тому

      @@wal Throw some cheap Skar drivers in it.

  • @kdigiacomo
    @kdigiacomo Рік тому +3

    I'm I graduated high school in 1993 and ran Pro Pyle 10's in a sealed box, sounded pretty good. Put them in a bandpass box made for 12's (plated over the holes with ¾ MDF and obviously drilled for 10's) hell they were ridiculously loud! Back then they definitely were made a lot better. Powered by a Fosgate 500w dyno'd at 734w, they were always under rated. I still have the amp and it works flawlessly.

  • @Bfresh99
    @Bfresh99 Рік тому +3

    I recently bought one of their tube style sub/enclosures. I couldn't even tell there was a sub in the trunk, total toilet water. I remember friends having Pyle drivers that thumped back in the day, oh how they have fallen.

  • @RyanBassForLife
    @RyanBassForLife Рік тому +1

    A Pyle of junk! It's not worth $10. Now the enclosure might be worth $15

  • @jonanderson4474
    @jonanderson4474 Рік тому +4

    I like how you have a twenty dollar box on a couple thousand dollar sub and box table.

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      Ha ha 😜

  • @mattd1142
    @mattd1142 7 місяців тому +1

    It’s actually kinda sad tbh. I’d much rather pay a little more for a decent quality. The cabinet looks great it just sounds like the electronics are crap. They could easily fix this and rase the price a little for a decent speaker

  • @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7
    @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7 Рік тому +6

    Great review as usual! I have to say, considering the cost of building the enclosure, the terminal cup, the port tubes, threaded inserts etc I think I'd buy a couple just to throw in some old school MTX 10" subs I've had laying around. Plus this is a 2nd order bandpass enclosure that with upgrades to the acrylic panel, maybe twice the thickness or a rigid aluminum plate would solve makes me want a couple versus building them from scratch.
    It might be interesting to see how it performs with a higher grade sub and a thicker front panel if you have any lying around :).

    • @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7
      @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7 Рік тому +2

      @@ElectronicMusicUnderground Likewise, I have a couple of Polk Audio 10's in a 2nd order bandpass made by Q-Logic back in the 90's and they perform incredibly well in that setup without driving them to hard. Massive amounts of low bass from it. Sometimes experimentation will reveal surprisingly good results :)

    • @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7
      @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7 Рік тому +2

      @@ElectronicMusicUnderground Would love to have seen that 😆. Sounds like we're both old school rockers. I still love building and have leaned more towards SQ most of the time but now I'm into SPL a little too. Having a suburban I find there is always a little more to expand the audio system and try new things. Just tried the new Recoil red600 and I'm really liking it driving a single 12" kicker box but then I would never give up on my old Eclipse or Linear Power stuff or the liquid cooled Bazooka amps. Too hard to find the old stuff in good condition anymore.
      Hoping to see Derick do a review of one of the old school Bazooka amps with or without cooling. My ba1300 is rated at only 375 watts but I've dyno'd it at 537 at 2 ohms. Really curious to see if he would get similar results.

    • @621ELECTRONICS
      @621ELECTRONICS Рік тому +1

      I personally wouldn’t waste the time nor expense of a thicker acrylic sheet; at the cost of a larger piece of acrylic, or thick aluminum, plus this box, you could build a custom one that is all around better (okay, maybe cost slightly higher, but worth it over trying to upgrade this type). I had a couple 2x12” bandpass boxes years ago with a larger acrylic sheet and same thickness (about 1/4" thick) and they worked fine. Sure there is flex, but making it rigid didn't make a perceivable difference, maybe on an SPL meter you'd see it, or a slight change in response graphs, but not noticeable from normal listening. I remember swapping it out with 3/4” MDF which is pretty rigid thinking it would help, and honestly put the acrylic back on. These are never going to be used with ultra high power subs, rather a few hundred real world watts, so the stock acrylic should be fine for the kind of subs that will make their way into these boxes. I’d be more concerned with the wood panels being glued together well. I had a Pyle PLBP122 bandpass 20+ years ago and had to glue the panels so it didn’t rattle. Other than that $20 is a fair price for just the box, even if it needs a little glue. The 1/4" x 10"x10" acrylic sheet on it cost nearly 20 by itself. Obviously if you wish to upgrade the acrylic, nothing wrong with doing that, I just don't believe it is worth the added cost / effort for very minimal, if any noticeable bass response changes. If you do it, and can do a before and after SPL reading, post back as I'd certainly be curious to know what measurable differences you got. And please don't take offense to my comment, just made me think back playing with these style boxes and my thoughts on the idea.

    • @621ELECTRONICS
      @621ELECTRONICS Рік тому

      Also wanted to add. Another cheap box to look for, the old Jensen 2x10” bandpass box with the 4 ports on the top rear if you want a box with thicker acrylic, it 5/16", which makes the one on this Pyle look really thin in comparison. I have a couple of those Jensen boxes still, they pop up cheap from time to time.

    • @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7
      @TFOTLITBOK_P1_7 Рік тому +1

      @@621ELECTRONICS Valid points to be sure, I was thinking more along the lines of using material already on hand to correct the issue of vibration with this boxes acrylic. I just figure that out looks fairly well constructed other than that for a run of the mill subwoofer maybe in the other of 500 watts or less. Not sure how far they go in box construction but it looks to be on video that it may be ¾" or ⅝ at minimum. Of course the port tubes need securing but again I think for $20 it's not had minus the front acrylic and the subwoofer they stuffed in it. Seems the material would be worth the cost at least.
      Of course building from scratch would be better it's more for me anyway a case of could something good be made from this enclosure by itself. Being over the hill and short of time for projects makes a difference for me as well :)

  • @jjhack3r
    @jjhack3r Рік тому +1

    Just by looking at that sub, I wouldn’t put more than 100 watts into it... you messed up by using the power ratings on the box.

  • @shadymaint1
    @shadymaint1 Рік тому +3

    Friend of mine used to do car audio competitions back in the 90s. His sponsor hooked him up with a couple Pyle Super Blue 15s. For not being the best subs those things hit hard. He won several competitions with them.

    • @GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi
      @GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi Рік тому +2

      I have a pair of 12 Super Blues 600 watts subs but I believe mine are pyramid and they sound decent for what they are there 8 ohms svc in a sealed box they sound really good to me. I still bump them from time to time when trying amps out that I buy

    • @hulqb.smashing6112
      @hulqb.smashing6112 Рік тому

      Right, Pyramid made super blue subs that were really inexpensive and sounded decent although they didn't last long.

    • @621ELECTRONICS
      @621ELECTRONICS Рік тому

      I thought the Pyle were Blue Wave, and the old Super Blue were Super Pro brand made by Pyramid. A cousin had the Super Pro Super Blue 15’s and they got surprisingly loud on a few hundred watts. I picked up a pair of those old 90’s Super Pro Super Blue 12’s (the old ones without that jimmy neutron looking logo on the dust cap) many years ago but sadly the cones got trashed during a move. Still have them, but not really worth reconing.

    • @leroycolejr6626
      @leroycolejr6626 Рік тому

      ​@@GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi I remember super blue subs. I had a pair on a pioneer amp

  • @Kraxt0n
    @Kraxt0n Рік тому +1

    20 bucks? says 80 on amazon lol...box was worthy of a 20 dollar bill (more so if it were a 12) but still 20 bucks for the box is a no brainer....

  • @951258tike22
    @951258tike22 Рік тому +6

    I appreciate you going above and beyond and testing out its wear-ability as a hat

  • @elijahdossett3528
    @elijahdossett3528 Рік тому +6

    One of the first ever systems I had was that same box and sub. I swapped it to the Skar IX 12 and put a ply wood 1/2” thick front cover. Had it on a skar lp-750.1 and it actually sounded great.

  • @wadetaylor4697
    @wadetaylor4697 Рік тому +1

    What's really sad is they could have spent 50cents more on a decent coil maybe made out of real copper and had a fairly decent product. These cheap speakers are reminiscent of the old Roadmaster brand speakers made 40 years ago

  • @MrNside
    @MrNside Рік тому +3

    Haven't been into car audio since the mid to late 90's. I suppose it's comforting to see Pyle has stayed consistent after all these years.
    The question stops being, "Why do people buy this?"
    And becomes, "Why does a company even bother making this?"

  • @glockman9c
    @glockman9c Рік тому +1

    wood = $20, plex = $10, wire cup = $5, screws and glue = $5, ports = $5, sub = $25, shipping $20
    total = $20
    LMAO

  • @billyt9987
    @billyt9987 Рік тому +7

    Back in the mid-80's Pyle made a good product. I bought a truck speaker with 6.5" subs in it. If I wanted too, I could have told folks I had 10's in there. That speaker system hit hard. Pyle sold a few more speakers down the road because of those 6.5 subs. Those things were legit. Wish I still had them

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      👌😝👍

    • @g-style4466
      @g-style4466 Рік тому

      I remember that too. A buddy of mine had two Pile 12 in his Toyota truck with MBcourt mids and couple Sherwood amps. Remember correctly I think it was a Sherwood 240 and a 180

    • @michaelfessenden8601
      @michaelfessenden8601 Рік тому +1

      Im still searching for the chest pounding i had from the pyle 8"

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 Рік тому

      I worked with a guy that had a 64 Chevy 4 door. Everyone hassled him about putting 4 Pyramid subs in the trunk. They were about the same level as Pyle. Though back then those Pyramids actually created a huge level of noise....

    • @marcusworld87
      @marcusworld87 Рік тому +1

      I remember back in 2006 buying the pyle driver sub, at the time they were like 80 a piece and hot really hard

  • @beauyo1293
    @beauyo1293 Рік тому +1

    Had two pyle 10’s in my 87 T-bird 5.0 WAY back in the day. Lol. They weren’t half bad back then.

  • @jordanslingluff287
    @jordanslingluff287 Рік тому +7

    Good to see Pyle hasnt changed. I bought a dual 10" pyle bandpass back in 98 from a pawn shop for my first system. The speaker bottomed out after about a month and just popped. I learned my lesson and got a 15" MTX after that.

    • @jasoncaine2600
      @jasoncaine2600 7 місяців тому

      First mistake was going to a pawn shop 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @brentwhitman9983
    @brentwhitman9983 Рік тому +1

    Everything is junk now days. Only ballons can hold up now days. Made in China. Or as a famous leader said. Chyna 😆 🤣

  • @mikebaird6788
    @mikebaird6788 Рік тому +1

    I still got my Pile box the one from the late 90s with the mid-range tweeters built-in it's behind the seat of a truck those holdup work great even to this day they need to stop selling out their brand for bargain-basement and improve the quality of little bit so it holds up

  • @BH4x0r
    @BH4x0r Рік тому +1

    the old wave* (blue wave etc) subs is exactly what got Pyle their bad name, the Power (PLPW...D) series are actually decent

  • @xlivtheman
    @xlivtheman Рік тому +1

    they have small handled screwdrivers that would make easy work of getting the woofer out. might be a good investment.

  • @rdolle990
    @rdolle990 9 місяців тому +1

    For the sake of too much junk in this world, products this bad should be forbidden.

  • @goblinphreak2132
    @goblinphreak2132 Рік тому +1

    curious if you used a subsonic filter to prevent super low bass from playing. a lot of cheap shit cant handle the really low bass signals. their website says 30hz to 700hz. so if you played a 25hz or 20hz signal that's probably what blew it. also cheap shit usually states the peak it can handle, not sustained RMS. more than likely its 100w to 150w RMS speaker. their "recommended amp" does 100w @4ohm RMS (if that's true). so yeah PEAK metrics are meaningless.

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +2

      I totally forgot when they say 500W, they meant a Pyle 500W amp that means 100W most likely

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 Рік тому +1

    Might be worth it for the box alone. Looks like the crappy coil glue melted off.

  • @wtfngarage2082
    @wtfngarage2082 Рік тому +1

    Put a low end 8 in it instead of a 10 with the box being so small may actually sound ok that way

  • @95Sn95
    @95Sn95 Рік тому +1

    You should get your sub building feet wet and re cone that turd, you can get a cone spider and coil for about $20 be kinda cool to re do that driver and give her another go. Re coming is not only a good thing in general but it's really fun to take a dead woofer and hear it thump again. It's really fun to reconnect a cheap sub that would normally get tossed in the trash. I took a slinkied Polk db12 D4 and popped the top plate off and milled it a bit to accept a 4 layer copper coil it only had a 2 layer coil replaced the poly cone with a pressed paper cone and a new soft spider to keep the FS really low and make it efficient, (that's a JL formula and its hits nice n low sounds really buttery smooth but it limits power handling...does that description sound like a JL? Yeah) and actually bumps pretty good. It would have been tossed but for not much money at all and I have a 350w+ 12" sub that hits really low. With it's low FS It works great in a 2cf ported box as a HT sub and rumbles great on only 250w. I call it the Polk super db.

    • @xdsone
      @xdsone Рік тому

      Hey this sounds like a great idea any pointers on getting some replacement parts for this? I also got a 12w7 that I was going to send back to jl for the $250 rebuild but they stopped doing it just before I blew on me, looking to recone that one too

  • @justinhiggins2210
    @justinhiggins2210 Рік тому +2

    I used to have a pair of pyle pro 12 subs. Pretty much identical to the rockford pro series from the early 90s. The one's made in Indiana were good.

  •  Рік тому +1

    can that speaker can be rebuild but with decent components? Here at my city, they are some places where they rebuild speakers, PA and those car kind of woofers!

    • @BLUE_OCTOBER-TRIX
      @BLUE_OCTOBER-TRIX Рік тому +1

      the box is definitely not that bad you could put a new sub in there for sure I would also glue down the ports at that point but I wouldn’t repair the speaker it’s garbage regardless

  • @hermanhorton5944
    @hermanhorton5944 Рік тому +1

    Ok. Woot is apart of the big A. You could return it and get another. Woot has some great deals

  • @Haze-d5m
    @Haze-d5m Рік тому +1

    I find it hard to believe it's not a cheap Chinese knock off for only 20

  • @sketchyssk8shop
    @sketchyssk8shop Рік тому +1

    I have 4 6.5 inch subs from Pyle. They do well for what they are

  • @whitebass16
    @whitebass16 Рік тому +1

    Pyle has been around as long as I can remember.. for the life of me, I dont know how they stay in business selling junk. The only good thing is now you have 2 empty boxes to put some fresh subs in

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      Yeah and easily worth $40 for both also

  • @mattsnider5904
    @mattsnider5904 Рік тому +1

    I thought about buying one or several of these, but putting a sundown or other more durable speaker in its place

  • @Floreypottery
    @Floreypottery Рік тому +1

    Worth it for the box subs maybe 100 watt sub lol I mens 50 watt

  • @DJ_Knite
    @DJ_Knite Рік тому +1

    Just use the box for a home audio subwoofer. Probably sound better than the factory sub that comes with a store bought home theater system.

  • @AudiophileStooge
    @AudiophileStooge Рік тому +1

    It appears to be 250 RMS at 4 ohms, 500 peak. It would blow for sure at 350 sustained

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      More like 125 RMS

  • @thegoatcatcher
    @thegoatcatcher Рік тому +1

    Sounds like an 80s sci-fi movie flick where the aliens are landing on Earth.

  • @sumptingood
    @sumptingood Рік тому +1

    You have to use a Pyle 500w amp lol, that way the sub will last.

  • @jaedenspider877
    @jaedenspider877 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm going to buy this and put a better subwoofer in it

  • @Mr1stlevel
    @Mr1stlevel Рік тому +1

    can you put a better speaker in it and wreck the encloser lol

  • @terryshookster1466
    @terryshookster1466 Рік тому +1

    Nice boxes, hey I just got a new amp and putting my OLD pyle driver 12s in a classic box. My pyles are like early 90s awesome they been in my 84 cerwin vega house speakers for over 15 years they are USA made. Best woofers I ever had. Most of the China speakers suck. I can't wait to hook it up today....

  • @dalebills9470
    @dalebills9470 Рік тому +1

    You know you screwed up as a subwoofer manufacturer when your customers end up wearing your cones as a hat

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому +1

      😜

  • @williamswaney9240
    @williamswaney9240 Рік тому +1

    500 watt rating…..bicf rating more like (Before it Catches Fire)

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      👌😬👍

  • @tonyperi78
    @tonyperi78 Рік тому +1

    Good job on the burn in period! Would you take a brand new engine to redline?

    • @wal
      @wal  Рік тому

      How does one assume it wasn’t broken in properly? Just broke, not broke in 🤣

  • @acmesoundw
    @acmesoundw Рік тому

    I've been an audiophile all of my life and a mobile DJ for 31 years. I have (being budget friendly) bought PYLE products and always been let down, PYLE (the brand) wasn't too bad in the 80's-90's but now they sell TRASH. Bottom line, you buy a PYLE product and you will get a PILE of sh*t.

  • @KyrieEleisonMaranatha
    @KyrieEleisonMaranatha Рік тому +1

    I have 2 pyle power 10 inch subs in my custom built floorstanding speakers in my home. They have been going strong now for like 8 years. Getting daily use of about 30 watts to 100 watts rms.

  • @TheLionAndTheLamb777
    @TheLionAndTheLamb777 Рік тому +1

    They were at one time 20 years ago built a bit better. I installed one of these back in the day for my cousin with a 300w Jensen amp it made enough bass to get the mirrors vibrating. Compared to the tiny crappy 4" speakers the car had it was a massive upgrade for her. The new ones are really garbage in comparison to their own product from the 90's.

  • @regalt1987
    @regalt1987 Місяць тому

    man back in the early 90's I had a really nice pair of Pyle 6x9's, They were actually pretty good performers.

  • @paulchristman5875
    @paulchristman5875 Рік тому +1

    Man, I knew (being old school myself) that the RMS power rating was just about 150 watts. I was sooo cringing when I saw the meter hitting over 200 watts... 😂