He only has himself to blame for using AI controlled reinforcements, again. He should have removed all the crossbows and archers from his main force so he could control the cannons in the reinforcement force. He didn't need archers at all. He could've easily sniped the catapults with the cannons and then wrecked their lines by placing his cannons correctly and turning off flaming ammo. It's not hard.
Jon "I hope my own cannons don't fire on me" [Proceeds to get shot in the face at point blank range by enemy catapults] Jon " I can't believe my own troops shot me" [-3 to perception] Your too much Jon, never change.
Yeah, the catapults are firing right there in front of his face, with a much larger fireball effect than the cannons, and he still blames his own cannons.
I'm pretty sure most of that fire on your troops was just the enemy catapults... Also, scouts may be faster than Generals bodyguard but norse axemen are not!
Something that really bugs me about Medieval 2. Pavise crossbowman. What is a pavise? Well most of you can probably tell it's that shield on the back; but what advantages does it give? To understand that you have to know how that shield is designed and how it is intended to work. In the early days of the crossbow, formations and volley fire were still the order of battle. Crossbow troops were lightly armored, typically carried a sidearm in the form of a dagger or hatchet, and generally there was not much considered capable of standing up to crossbow fire. In comes the pavise; at first glance you would think it a tower shield and quite unwieldly for archers or crossbow troops. The pavise is a lightweight tower shield designed to protect the entire body from return fire. To combat the penetration ability of crossbows, pads of soft leather or thickly woven thatch would skin the outer face. Early versions were just that, a shield. The Pavise came into its own with the addition of a foot spike at the bottom of the shield. Pavises with this spike would be pushed into the dirt and set in rows, sometimes propped up with poles of some sort, to form protective barricades. Pavise crossbow troops at that point essentially became crossbow phalanxes, and that's honestly how they should work. Pavise crossbowmen, maybe not the Militia variant, should have a formation to deploy their pavise shields and gain significant resistance to arrow and bolt fire from the front, but at the cost of being a stationary target.
Are the comments going to be full of people telling Jon he wrongly credited his own artillery for the enemy catapult fire? *checks* Yep! You really need to put some points into Perception Jon...
*billows white smoke out the chimney at the end of a Conclave for a new antipope, and walks out in Papal regalia* I, Pope Linus II, vow to carry out the functions of my office as Vicarius Christi, and shall opposethe Danish heretic Antipope Zappa, through the Holy Trinity, Blessed Mary Ever Virgin, All the Angels and Saints, in particular Saints Peter and Paul. Pater Noster, qui es in Caelis...
Am I the only one who is wondering why the fuck Jon is attacking the Mongols in the open field? Isn't it clear that the mongols are attacking the cities, so why would he waste troops in the open field.
when i ruled the old world I had a priest in pretty much 1 in 2 settlements, heresy is just constant, I owned every cardinal seat even before wiping the other factions out
Ah, so that's the trick! You just needed to wait for your old king to get even worse, and then he would become the greatest king of all time. Thanks for the video!
Speaking of the Pope, have you tried paying him money? That way, you could have made sure that he looks the other way as you rampaged across Europe and delayed excommunication.
umm, Mongols, ah, you-hooo, guys... just a little reminder... You totally left a city or two back there untouched. Oh, yeah, exactly those. Yepp, good, now, possibly, you might attack, after a century of bumbling around.
They blasted him, again, and again, and again, and AGAIN, right in front of his eyes. He watched the projectiles launch from the enemy catapult No fewer than 3 times, and yet blamed his cannons for something he could visibly see wasn't coming from them. In fact, I don't believe that his cannons shot his own troops even once.. (despite coming very close a couple of times). Even years and years later, it still blows my mind how his -6 Perception manifests itself during gameplay.
zakback99 I've had that problem, but I fixed it by going into the game's properties menu and setting the version to the one that runs with windows 7 rather than 8 (evidently windows 7 medieval 2 works better on windows 10 than windows 8 does, because windows 8 is terrible). Hope this helps/ works for you
@Many A True Nerd - Admittedly I'm still new to Medieval 2: Total War, and I'm playing on easy mode... But I thought I should let you know that I just defeated the Mongol Horde with the careful use of 3 Assassins and only holding Aleppo, Acre, and Jerusalem. They kept taking Antioch off of me or it would have been that one, too. It also helped that I had a crusade called against Damascus and used the nearby Hungarian Crusade army to help me hold Aleppo twice. But still, three assassins. One died six turns before I finally got the last leader, but the other two were level 10 assassins with special blades and tracking dogs by that time. :D
Hey Jon I know it's an old video and you won't see this, but I just have to say... THAT WAS THE ENEMY @#$%$#@ CATIPULT NOT YOUR CANNONS YOU -1 PERCEPTION FOOL!!!!! I MEAN IT HAPPENED CENTER SCREEN SEVERAL TIMES! YOU NAMED THE EPISODE AFTER YOUR LACK OF PERCEPTION! I'm better now, thank you. Any way love you Jon and keep on doing what your doing.
Can I suggest a fallout playthrough? TO BAD I’m doing it anyway -----THE HOARDER----- You must take as much junk as possible even if you must drop your equipment until the end of the game you must place all your junk in a storage device and if you don’t take some junk you must go back and get it and at the end of the game you must sell all the junk to get at least 50,000 caps
Wow, when I saw the AI reinforcements had 4 bombards and Jon had to cross a bridge, I was thinking he was screwed from friendly fire, but they couldn't hit
When Jon blames his own troops for the enemy actually being competent.
David Canmore he even named the episode after his -1 perception
How did he not see it was the enemy catapult? It happened center screen several times.
Yuuuuuup
Ànd the advent of gunpowder has Jon forgetting hat catapults can fire flaming shot.
He only has himself to blame for using AI controlled reinforcements, again.
He should have removed all the crossbows and archers from his main force so he could control the cannons in the reinforcement force. He didn't need archers at all. He could've easily sniped the catapults with the cannons and then wrecked their lines by placing his cannons correctly and turning off flaming ammo. It's not hard.
Jon "I hope my own cannons don't fire on me"
[Proceeds to get shot in the face at point blank range by enemy catapults]
Jon " I can't believe my own troops shot me"
[-3 to perception]
Your too much Jon, never change.
Jon, that was the enemy catapults hitting your men on the bridge most of the time ;)
Thank you! :)
Seriously, the perception is weak in this one
we all know his perception is bad, but that was...wow...
Like, you could literally see the catapult arms moving as he said "Another round of friendly fire." :P
Yeah, the catapults are firing right there in front of his face, with a much larger fireball effect than the cannons, and he still blames his own cannons.
I'm pretty sure most of that fire on your troops was just the enemy catapults...
Also, scouts may be faster than Generals bodyguard but norse axemen are not!
Almost all of it, actually.
Not even once were your troops hit by the cannons, it was all done by the catapults. Even though, great pun as allways.
I love how this succession of Popes is still more sane than some of the real Pope-fights we have records of...
"Good ole Byzantines, I like those guys". Three guesses who declares war on Denmark next.
Riverboat well they are the only ones left to declare war on Jon
Yeah are there even three neutral countries left?
Something that really bugs me about Medieval 2.
Pavise crossbowman.
What is a pavise? Well most of you can probably tell it's that shield on the back; but what advantages does it give? To understand that you have to know how that shield is designed and how it is intended to work.
In the early days of the crossbow, formations and volley fire were still the order of battle. Crossbow troops were lightly armored, typically carried a sidearm in the form of a dagger or hatchet, and generally there was not much considered capable of standing up to crossbow fire. In comes the pavise; at first glance you would think it a tower shield and quite unwieldly for archers or crossbow troops. The pavise is a lightweight tower shield designed to protect the entire body from return fire. To combat the penetration ability of crossbows, pads of soft leather or thickly woven thatch would skin the outer face. Early versions were just that, a shield.
The Pavise came into its own with the addition of a foot spike at the bottom of the shield. Pavises with this spike would be pushed into the dirt and set in rows, sometimes propped up with poles of some sort, to form protective barricades. Pavise crossbow troops at that point essentially became crossbow phalanxes, and that's honestly how they should work.
Pavise crossbowmen, maybe not the Militia variant, should have a formation to deploy their pavise shields and gain significant resistance to arrow and bolt fire from the front, but at the cost of being a stationary target.
Don't they simulate this by turning around when reloading? I mean, it's not 100% accurate, but it gets the idea across.
LEAVE GARCIA AND HIS WIFE’S SON ALONE!!
your wife's son, is also your son...
Artorias of the abyss not necessarily my friend, not necessarily.
Artorias of the abyss not with a name like Garcia the Cuckold he isn't
Are the comments going to be full of people telling Jon he wrongly credited his own artillery for the enemy catapult fire?
*checks*
Yep! You really need to put some points into Perception Jon...
I love how Jon flips out regarding the cannons when it was just the enemy catapults.
Jon, that was fireballs from the Venician catapults, not your cannons, ya fool!
Pope Zappa.
Zappa in italian means hoe (the farming tool)
This is Pope Hoe
Pope Zappa will lace all the communion wafers with lsd.
Wasnt friendly fire on the bridge it was the enemy catapult
"My own cannons"
That was the catapults Jon..
Pope Zappa?
The next Mothers of Invention concert is going to be a hell of a thing...
I love how the "friendly fire" was primarily the enemy. -1 Perception for the win.
Jon, you missed a real opportunity here. This whole time, you've been calling it "the pope war" when you could have been calling it "a new pope."
Jon: my own cannons are destroying me
Me: ITS THEIR BLEEDING CATAPULT GRRRR
The only Bumbling that is worse then the Mongols is Jon's. Boy does he know how to bumble.
Jon failed to notice that 5 or 6 shots that were "his guys shooting him" were from the catapults
for once it wasn't your own catapults hitting your own men because you leave them on fire at will and forget about them like a madman
King Garcia The Cuckold LMAO
Wow! No sooner do I finish the new Warhammer when this pops up! You spoil us, Jon.
Jon that was the catapult shooting you not your own cannons
Any plans to just finish off Egypt? I see them giving you the stink eye after every turn
Would you ever do a native M&B Warband Campaign? i think it would be extremely up your ally as a strategy mil sim.
inb4 Jon takes Sofia next turn, then is immediately besieged there by the Byzantine armies.
IT WAS THE CATAPULTS !
Perseption -1
Yes! The Pope is Danish again! Lego and Bacon had been declared holy once more!
*billows white smoke out the chimney at the end of a Conclave for a new antipope, and walks out in Papal regalia*
I, Pope Linus II, vow to carry out the functions of my office as Vicarius Christi, and shall opposethe Danish heretic Antipope Zappa, through the Holy Trinity, Blessed Mary Ever Virgin, All the Angels and Saints, in particular Saints Peter and Paul.
Pater Noster, qui es in Caelis...
Why are you rejoicing in 3rd person POPE!
Let me Guess.... your serpentines will do something horribly horribly wrong...
When you’re so good at Total War that you have to handicap yourself against the Mongol horde...
"Catapults still active" "my cannons are killing my guys" Jon perception -1
Am I the only one who is wondering why the fuck Jon is attacking the Mongols in the open field? Isn't it clear that the mongols are attacking the cities, so why would he waste troops in the open field.
Jon where perception is a dump stat
when i ruled the old world I had a priest in pretty much 1 in 2 settlements, heresy is just constant, I owned every cardinal seat even before wiping the other factions out
Why didn't Skapti's authority wrap around?
Perhaps it did and he still ended up at nil.
All hail Pope Frank Zappa!
I now picture a pope with the hair and mustache of frank zappa, AWESOME
Those were the enemy catapults shooting you..
Not all of it. Some was definitely from friendly cannons.
If you were excommunicated at the time why would they tell you about the crusade?
Ah, so that's the trick! You just needed to wait for your old king to get even worse, and then he would become the greatest king of all time.
Thanks for the video!
Rest In Peace Spain. 1080-1326. You will be as forgotten as you were for most of the Campaign.
That was catapult fire that was destroying your troops on the bridge
Before Frank Zappa, there was Pope Zappa.
Zappa is a great name for selling soda in the 90s, but not for being a flippin' Pope xD
The red Terror
Speaking of the Pope, have you tried paying him money? That way, you could have made sure that he looks the other way as you rampaged across Europe and delayed excommunication.
Blami g your canons for the enemy using their catapults 😂
umm, Mongols, ah, you-hooo, guys... just a little reminder...
You totally left a city or two back there untouched.
Oh, yeah, exactly those.
Yepp, good, now, possibly, you might attack, after a century of bumbling around.
They blasted him, again, and again, and again, and AGAIN, right in front of his eyes.
He watched the projectiles launch from the enemy catapult No fewer than 3 times, and yet blamed his cannons for something he could visibly see wasn't coming from them.
In fact, I don't believe that his cannons shot his own troops even once.. (despite coming very close a couple of times).
Even years and years later, it still blows my mind how his -6 Perception manifests itself during gameplay.
Jon i love you, your sense of humor is amazing!!!!?!!!??!!!
Jon when are you going to discover America?
After they discover the world is round (though that's not really what happened, they knew it was round...)
Around turn 160. So probably in spring 2018 ;)
Please take everything mate
Yes Jon the Cannons did hurt you but those Catapults did so more
The pope likes to spawn down near the Moors for some reason. At least he did when I was playing Milan
The Pope spawn inside The Papal States army when owning no settlements.
John those enemy catapults are not your cannons...
Why didn't you just attack from the city? Wouldn't it have canceled the bridge battle?
ajajaman2 I'm pretty sure his reinforcements would have been to far away to help.
And this is why we never allow the AI to control anything.
well done Jon!
I want Pope Frank Zappa in this timeline.
Hi Jon I love this game!!!!!
If you saw your cannons hitting the bridge frequently, why would you send your troops over said bridge, silly?
i need me a MATN T-shirt with "sexy on toast" on it.
good video Jon
This catapult is not your friend Jon! :D
Make more priests !
does anyone have a problem when they launch the game and it crashes saying that there is a graphical error plox help
If that happens just kick your computer a few times to jog it
zakback99 I've had that problem, but I fixed it by going into the game's properties menu and setting the version to the one that runs with windows 7 rather than 8 (evidently windows 7 medieval 2 works better on windows 10 than windows 8 does, because windows 8 is terrible). Hope this helps/ works for you
OK enough. Rewathing this years later Jon is OFFICIALLY BLIND! XD
Lol you'd think by now you'd know the difference between yer cannon balls an enemy catapult boulders lol
No fallout boardgame today? :(
Maybe you should restore the Byzantine Empire to its original glory and gift them everythng once held by the ERE.
Timurid horde soon :DDDD
Not before The Black Death :P
@Many A True Nerd - Admittedly I'm still new to Medieval 2: Total War, and I'm playing on easy mode... But I thought I should let you know that I just defeated the Mongol Horde with the careful use of 3 Assassins and only holding Aleppo, Acre, and Jerusalem. They kept taking Antioch off of me or it would have been that one, too. It also helped that I had a crusade called against Damascus and used the nearby Hungarian Crusade army to help me hold Aleppo twice. But still, three assassins. One died six turns before I finally got the last leader, but the other two were level 10 assassins with special blades and tracking dogs by that time. :D
Good goods are good.
Hey Jon I know it's an old video and you won't see this, but I just have to say...
THAT WAS THE ENEMY @#$%$#@ CATIPULT NOT YOUR CANNONS YOU -1 PERCEPTION FOOL!!!!! I MEAN IT HAPPENED CENTER SCREEN SEVERAL TIMES! YOU NAMED THE EPISODE AFTER YOUR LACK OF PERCEPTION! I'm better now, thank you. Any way love you Jon and keep on doing what your doing.
YASSSSSSSSS
Jon how did you not see that was the enemy catapults, and not your own cannons. The fireballs don't even look the same.
you truly are perception 1
yay
2 minutes and Five comments wow
Anyone else yelling at the screen "JON, THOSE ARE CLEARLY THE ENEMY CANNONS, THEY'RE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU BLIND BASTARD!"
Oh this is just horrible to watch with his horrid perception..
No fallout board game:(
board game? plz
Where is fallout the board game
Can I suggest a fallout playthrough?
TO BAD I’m doing it anyway
-----THE HOARDER-----
You must take as much junk as possible even if you must drop your equipment until the end of the game you must place all your junk in a storage device and if you don’t take some junk you must go back and get it and at the end of the game you must sell all the junk to get at least 50,000 caps
3rd
Almost first!
Wow, when I saw the AI reinforcements had 4 bombards and Jon had to cross a bridge, I was thinking he was screwed from friendly fire, but they couldn't hit