*AS A TAILOR* can I just point out that coats are super profitable - they are REALLY easy to make - I just made a raglan sleeve full length in 50/50 wool/nylon tartan - it took less than a week! 3m of fabric, lining, 5 buttons, 1 buckle, no canvas, no difficult shaping or pad stitching. People's image of coats is completely at odds with the actual complexity and quantity of fabric involved. EDIT - there is MORE fabric in a suit than a full length overcoat...!
@@mara23ification Inside a suit jacket there are several layers of canvas - linen canvas and horse hair canvas - that give the jacket its structure and shape. This is kind of the chassis of the jacket and the fabric you SEE [the fashion fabric] is like the body panels on the car. This is expensive material and there is a LOT of work "pad stitching" the shape into the canvas, we literally stick the 3D shape of your body into the canvas. It takes nearly as long to make a pair of canvases as it did to make that coat. 90% of the work in a bespoke suit goes into things you will never see, its all under the surface.
@@karlenglewood8940 I just wrote a really detained answer and it didnt post - so forgive me if I summarise. An over coat would not be made in the same way as a sports jacket but a fitted 3/4 coat would be. I made one just before Christmas for myself - it took about 150 hours. This is a more historical item of clothing, I make mens historical clothes 1890 to 1940. A high quality more formal overcoat might have a single canvas at the front for body and for hanging the pockets from so they dont stretch the fabric, but it would not be shaped.
Bliss, it would be lovely if you could make someday a video only about non-fashion objects made by fashion designers. How it (in some cases) susseccfully enhances designer’s worldbuilding effords etc.
Huge ditto on this one. Smoky Glow does a round of fashion websites looking at their non-clothing selections and just about dies of sticker shock every time. It's funny but you can also see what the brand is trying to do, either in terms of making small items available to a wider market or blinging out someone's life in the brand in question
As for water resistant wool coats, the ones from Brunello Cucinelli and Loro Piana are superexpensive, but British brand Mackintosh make coats like these (in "specifications" the fabric is called "loro piana storm system", since loro piana produce the fabric), great quality, good look, price point slightly lower than Burberry coats.
A fashion blogger on Instagram mentioned that a pure lynx/bobcat belly fur coat from Fendi has an MSRP of ~$300-350,000... Keep in mind: pure lynx belly costs require A TON of pelts to create since the belly is so small...
Also great topic for a video would be: Under what circumstances are the prices justifiable? Of course, material quality and blend is a factor for the price as is the manufacturing process. I also see the accumulated experience of a designer, that goes into a piece as a justifiable factor for the price (similar, as if you pay an beginner photographer a lot less for the same amount of pictures than an professional with 30 years of experience) but at which point is a price not justifiable anymore?
I guess it would have 2 viewpoints. From the designer: as long as someone is willing to pay that price, it is justifiable. As a consumer: As long as it is worth it to you. For example if I see an amazing looking piece, but I see it is made from polyester (and it wouldn't give the product a real benefit like a jacket using it to be more water resistent), even 100€ don't seem worth it to me. But if it is a unique, well crafted piece made from cotton, silk, leather or cashmere I am willing to spend multiple hundred € on a single piece. But that's just my take on it.
I once saw a Norman Ambrose Russian sable fur coat with a price tag of $140,000 at the Saks Fur Salon. But that's just the artificially high MSRP, not the actual sale prices.
A lot of my wardrobe is zegna, suprisingly their sports collabs (like la-sportiva etc) are actually the same price as the boots at regular price. So klind of worth it :)
4:35 crazy seeing how expensive alpaca is. I went to a shop in Peru that shows you how they make the clothes and got a baby alpaca coat for around $650. Not the same style but still good to know I got a good deal😅
Hey Bliss, usually high performance skis (for racing) cost around 1100$ CAN. Different type of skis will cost more or less but that is generally what it will cost. These Zegna skiis are crazy overpriced but it seems like they collaborated with ski brand Zai, which uses different materials than what I'm used to seeing. I love skiing, love your videos too :))
As a fashion professional, I find your videos informative and interesting. As a born and raised Italian, could I perhaps entice you to pronounce Bottega Veneta (and occasionally other Italian names) properly? As for the first, the accent is on the E of the first syllable Ve. I honestly don't mean to sound critical, maybe you didn't know ☺
*7:10** - I WAS TO THE PENNY $25K* Do you get a bonus point for getting it SPOT ON...??? *9:25** - I WAS $5 OUT* I guessed $5,200, but that's cos I know the cost of Brunello Cucinelli jackets EDIT - they are the only 2 points I got
just goes to show like prices in fashion are completely random. a mixed alpaca overcoat from loro piana is 7500. you'd imagine one with that intricate rick's work would have the power to get nearer to that.
surprisingly, loro piana is NOT a super expensive brand. they sell ultra-fine cashmere. lots of brands sell much less luxurious things at comparable prices.
As a Canadian guessing in loonies and toonies i didn't account for the exchange rate so im more off than I initially realized. Also haven't worked luxury retail for a decade. I've lost my touch. 😢
Look up Rick Owens fish scale and Rick owens SS23 edfu runway paradox jacket and pants. Now those are some insane prices at $25k for the jacket and $30k for the jeans. A $55k fit before tax lol. Edit I forgot to add the fish scale jacket is $21k.
Hello bliss. Please don't stop making videos. Your channel means everything to me. I'm from India and I have really high aspirations that I have set for myself in this industry. You are my only source. I don't have the money to afford books, classes, online subscriptions or etc. I am sorry, I don't even have it to have your $3 patreon membership as of yet. But I will do it soon. I work in a different industry. Trying to learn as much as I can but also working just to survive. ❤ sorry. I made it too long. But please, continue and I'll join your patreon as soon as I am able to, Financially.
Browsing through Bergdorf women's coats selection one day I saw a trench coat with a lot of alligator trim. It was cool coat to handle. There was no one around to stop me from touching it or trying it on. The price tag was $110,000. I wish I remembered who was the designer. May be Ralph Rucci, but I cannot be sure. Sidenote, that was at BG 17 years ago. That coat is probably 190K in today's money.
Luxury retail prices are not even logically justifiable. Especially haute couture runaway pieces, handmade, etc. An haute couture shirt (SHIRT!) from let's say Chanel atelier (basically bespoke piece) would be in 45000 euros. Not even a joke. I've just accepted the fact that this is some kind of completely parallel reality to the one I live in lol. Made in Japan can be pricey, but not necessarily outlandishly expensive. Like for example moonstar and shoes like pottery canvas sneakers (2 brands producing in the same factory in Japan), the sell in retail for similar price to CDGxconverse. So a bit more then a regular converse, still, reasonable for the quality. Etc, etc.
Not tryna show off but I got ALL of them right (to within $100) except the phone case (my guess was $350 because Pradas and Balenciagas are usually that)
Bliss my dude if you do this again, have a range based on +/- a percentage (say, 10% maybe?) of the cost, not a flat 300, being the determining factor of if you get points
Would you be able to see about making a video on how effective taking a fashion course in college realistically helps you get a good job with that degree?
Many years ago I worked on photo shoot’s with a bridal magazine. We were shooting at Barney’s (that how long ago it was) and one of the dresses that was placed on the model was a Versace wedding gown….IT WAS $23,000!!!! 👀 It was a simple column shaped dress with incredible top stitching on the sides…it was beautiful, but I thought 8 maybe even $10,000!!! Well they only have to make it twice, the sample and the person who orders it….designers got to eat!
This stuff makes no sense to me.... especially for people who claim to love clothes. Clothes are about the quality and style, not the price tag. But so much of this is more about extreme displays of wealth while SACRIFICING the quality and style. I guess high fashion is for people who hate clothes? And want to use it for clout instead of comfort / style / elegance.
Hi🌸I'm a 22 year old fashion designer from Iran . One of my designs was worn by Taylor Swift in her eras tour and another brand was credited for it.🥺 I made a video about it explaining what happened💗
UNPOPULAR QUESTION: What do you think about the fashion industry's obsession with and appropriating Native American art and textiles? There's such a long list of it. I'm alaskan native, east coast Native and Caribbean and have seen it happen especially in southwest culture. Some examples are the Jeremy Scott × Addisas international line that stole artwork from my tribe in southeast Alaska and the most recent controversy of Pharrell's continued use of plains and southwest esthetics in his personal style and the recent LV show. Another example is Ralph Lauren's appropriation of the Cowichan wool Sweater of Vancouver Island native cultures.
Putting this back in the feed! Would really really like insight about this because it's what discourages me from being excited about LV and other brands that don't contribute their inspiration financially from cultures and history that has been overlooked since colonization
I can think of a bunch of amazing and avante-garde Indigenous designers from the US and Canada that do runway shows in Santa Fe & Vancouver as well as red carpet walks for Indigenous celebrities
Bliss, this just shows your knowledge of fashion is confined at the moment to Radical Fashion and not mainstream fashion. Not a criticism, there is room for all kinds of fashion critics.
*AS A TAILOR* can I just point out that coats are super profitable - they are REALLY easy to make - I just made a raglan sleeve full length in 50/50 wool/nylon tartan - it took less than a week!
3m of fabric, lining, 5 buttons, 1 buckle, no canvas, no difficult shaping or pad stitching. People's image of coats is completely at odds with the actual complexity and quantity of fabric involved. EDIT - there is MORE fabric in a suit than a full length overcoat...!
What do you mean by no canvas?
@@mara23ification Inside a suit jacket there are several layers of canvas - linen canvas and horse hair canvas - that give the jacket its structure and shape. This is kind of the chassis of the jacket and the fabric you SEE [the fashion fabric] is like the body panels on the car.
This is expensive material and there is a LOT of work "pad stitching" the shape into the canvas, we literally stick the 3D shape of your body into the canvas. It takes nearly as long to make a pair of canvases as it did to make that coat.
90% of the work in a bespoke suit goes into things you will never see, its all under the surface.
So, what about a coat in the same construction as sports jackets?
@@karlenglewood8940 I just wrote a really detained answer and it didnt post - so forgive me if I summarise. An over coat would not be made in the same way as a sports jacket but a fitted 3/4 coat would be. I made one just before Christmas for myself - it took about 150 hours.
This is a more historical item of clothing, I make mens historical clothes 1890 to 1940.
A high quality more formal overcoat might have a single canvas at the front for body and for hanging the pockets from so they dont stretch the fabric, but it would not be shaped.
@piccalillipit9211 do you mean like half canvass and full canvas? Is that why full canvass costs so much?
Oscar de la Renta is big in the wedding industry. He has been doing wedding dresses for about 20 years and evening gowns since the 1960s.
Bliss, it would be lovely if you could make someday a video only about non-fashion objects made by fashion designers. How it (in some cases) susseccfully enhances designer’s worldbuilding effords etc.
Huge ditto on this one. Smoky Glow does a round of fashion websites looking at their non-clothing selections and just about dies of sticker shock every time. It's funny but you can also see what the brand is trying to do, either in terms of making small items available to a wider market or blinging out someone's life in the brand in question
Yeah I thought about this too! Would be very interesting
Hands down, the world is a better place with Bliss Foster in it.
Learned so much from this video! Loved how you broke down materials, aesthetics, and designer history. Would love to see this as a series.
Awesome! Thank you!💫💫
That Rick Owen’s coat on Round six would match for a pretty sick Jedi costume.
Great, NOW I want one.
As for water resistant wool coats, the ones from Brunello Cucinelli and Loro Piana are superexpensive, but British brand Mackintosh make coats like these (in "specifications" the fabric is called "loro piana storm system", since loro piana produce the fabric), great quality, good look, price point slightly lower than Burberry coats.
Pricing for Skis is all over from a few hundred to thousands for some of the crazy ultrahigh performance stuff
are you gonna do a video on the new Margiela runaway?
Yes! Good things take time :)
@@BlissFoster no make the video an hour after the show happens😠
@@BlissFoster idc how long it takes, I’ll be there to watch it the hour it drops❤️❤️
@@jackbenham8852ahahahahahahah
but livestreaming is indeed growing as a trend.
A fashion blogger on Instagram mentioned that a pure lynx/bobcat belly fur coat from Fendi has an MSRP of ~$300-350,000...
Keep in mind: pure lynx belly costs require A TON of pelts to create since the belly is so small...
I would love to see more of these! It will keep me from getting too delusional
Also great topic for a video would be: Under what circumstances are the prices justifiable?
Of course, material quality and blend is a factor for the price as is the manufacturing process. I also see the accumulated experience of a designer, that goes into a piece as a justifiable factor for the price (similar, as if you pay an beginner photographer a lot less for the same amount of pictures than an professional with 30 years of experience) but at which point is a price not justifiable anymore?
I guess it would have 2 viewpoints.
From the designer: as long as someone is willing to pay that price, it is justifiable.
As a consumer: As long as it is worth it to you. For example if I see an amazing looking piece, but I see it is made from polyester (and it wouldn't give the product a real benefit like a jacket using it to be more water resistent), even 100€ don't seem worth it to me. But if it is a unique, well crafted piece made from cotton, silk, leather or cashmere I am willing to spend multiple hundred € on a single piece.
But that's just my take on it.
I once saw a Norman Ambrose Russian sable fur coat with a price tag of $140,000 at the Saks Fur Salon.
But that's just the artificially high MSRP, not the actual sale prices.
My first Designer Handbag bought in 1993 when I was studying was from Loewe
A lot of my wardrobe is zegna, suprisingly their sports collabs (like la-sportiva etc) are actually the same price as the boots at regular price. So klind of worth it :)
The „Y‘all are smoking crack!“ at 0:54 had me rolling on the floor of laughter 😂
Lmao
I am so glad i binge watched your content, I felt more prepared to enjoy the Margiela show than ever before
FYI, basically the most luxury skis out there are 1.5k, you can get a solid pair for $600, so Zegna selling skis for 5k is bonkers.
Should do a vid on Iris Van Harpen. one of my favourites.
4:35 crazy seeing how expensive alpaca is. I went to a shop in Peru that shows you how they make the clothes and got a baby alpaca coat for around $650. Not the same style but still good to know I got a good deal😅
Hey Bliss, usually high performance skis (for racing) cost around 1100$ CAN. Different type of skis will cost more or less but that is generally what it will cost.
These Zegna skiis are crazy overpriced but it seems like they collaborated with ski brand Zai, which uses different materials than what I'm used to seeing.
I love skiing, love your videos too :))
Just for information,here in Germany 2 big luxury retailers just filed for bankruptcy.KaDeWe in Berlin and oberpollinger in Munich.😮
Fashion's clientele is essentially made of fools
Love this, do More of these type of videos.
it's that funny that i got none-because as a broke fashion geek i just never look at the prices anymore because i know i'll never afford it.
As a fashion professional, I find your videos informative and interesting. As a born and raised Italian, could I perhaps entice you to pronounce Bottega Veneta (and occasionally other Italian names) properly? As for the first, the accent is on the E of the first syllable Ve.
I honestly don't mean to sound critical, maybe you didn't know ☺
This video was super entertaining! Maybe a good option when you’re in one of the fw cities as a bit of filler for that time.
*7:10** - I WAS TO THE PENNY $25K* Do you get a bonus point for getting it SPOT ON...???
*9:25** - I WAS $5 OUT* I guessed $5,200, but that's cos I know the cost of Brunello Cucinelli jackets
EDIT - they are the only 2 points I got
This video was really fun to watch ✨️
just goes to show like prices in fashion are completely random. a mixed alpaca overcoat from loro piana is 7500. you'd imagine one with that intricate rick's work would have the power to get nearer to that.
surprisingly, loro piana is NOT a super expensive brand. they sell ultra-fine cashmere. lots of brands sell much less luxurious things at comparable prices.
btw, an hermés cashmere scarf is €20 more expensive than a loro piana. loro has their own mills since god knows when!
As a Canadian guessing in loonies and toonies i didn't account for the exchange rate so im more off than I initially realized.
Also haven't worked luxury retail for a decade. I've lost my touch. 😢
Look up Rick Owens fish scale and Rick owens SS23 edfu runway paradox jacket and pants. Now those are some insane prices at $25k for the jacket and $30k for the jeans. A $55k fit before tax lol.
Edit I forgot to add the fish scale jacket is $21k.
An absolute amount of deviation makes no sense if the prices range from 200$ to 5 figures. You should use a percentage deviation like 10-20%.
I was waiting for the feather bra from Ann D Bliss haha
Hello bliss.
Please don't stop making videos. Your channel means everything to me. I'm from India and I have really high aspirations that I have set for myself in this industry.
You are my only source. I don't have the money to afford books, classes, online subscriptions or etc.
I am sorry, I don't even have it to have your $3 patreon membership as of yet.
But I will do it soon. I work in a different industry. Trying to learn as much as I can but also working just to survive.
❤ sorry. I made it too long. But please, continue and I'll join your patreon as soon as I am able to, Financially.
Like the game a lot, and also Bliss' attempt of saying Ermenegildo Zegna 😂
Love this type of content! It’s super engaging and learn quick facts about a particular piece and where it comes from. Keep it up 👍
6, the Loewe shoes were my closest guess.
Browsing through Bergdorf women's coats selection one day I saw a trench coat with a lot of alligator trim. It was cool coat to handle. There was no one around to stop me from touching it or trying it on. The price tag was $110,000. I wish I remembered who was the designer. May be Ralph Rucci, but I cannot be sure. Sidenote, that was at BG 17 years ago. That coat is probably 190K in today's money.
Luxury retail prices are not even logically justifiable. Especially haute couture runaway pieces, handmade, etc. An haute couture shirt (SHIRT!) from let's say Chanel atelier (basically bespoke piece) would be in 45000 euros. Not even a joke. I've just accepted the fact that this is some kind of completely parallel reality to the one I live in lol.
Made in Japan can be pricey, but not necessarily outlandishly expensive. Like for example moonstar and shoes like pottery canvas sneakers (2 brands producing in the same factory in Japan), the sell in retail for similar price to CDGxconverse. So a bit more then a regular converse, still, reasonable for the quality. Etc, etc.
The € 102.000 philipp plein crocodile jacket is missing from this one
all my love to tailors!!
Nothing is as bad as the phillip plein crocodile jacket
Honestly, nothing is as bad as Phillip Plein period
Blisss will have a team!!!!!
Oscar de la Renta has a few diffusions, so they do eyewear, jewellery, and accessories
Not tryna show off but I got ALL of them right (to within $100) except the phone case (my guess was $350 because Pradas and Balenciagas are usually that)
Good thing you’re not trying to show off, because that fact should be embarrassing.
He said show your scores, smartass @@HotelBravo556
I GUESSEDTHE VALENTINO DRESS PERFECTLY
Bliss my dude if you do this again, have a range based on +/- a percentage (say, 10% maybe?) of the cost, not a flat 300, being the determining factor of if you get points
Wouldnt it make much more sense to make the threshold for a point a percentage value relative to the correct price?
I Really Want A Charles Jeffery Hat; That Chloe Coat Being $12,500 Is… Like Huh; I Expected The Bottega Coat To Be $20,000. I Got Like A Score Of 6…
if i went with my first guesses, i'd have scored 9 but some of ur explanations made me overthink hehe
Real sticker shock: alligator or croc jackets from LV or Hermès.
$25,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Oscar De La Renta does perfume. Can't tell you if it's any good though. I did just buy it for friends...
Compare floral musky, and not the sweet sugar musky. Their fragrances are elegant, uplifting, not the flirty playful. Hope that helps!
I got a 2 gimme them headphones
Would you be able to see about making a video on how effective taking a fashion course in college realistically helps you get a good job with that degree?
I like this video, Bliss getting excitd over these things it what the human experience is about
got a 4 lol what fun ! i was most surprised by the hat - i definitely aimed too high
Oscar De La Renta does have fragrances.
Have you seen the price point of Rick Owens x Paradoxe Paris?💀
Many years ago I worked on photo shoot’s with a bridal magazine. We were shooting at Barney’s (that how long ago it was) and one of the dresses that was placed on the model was a Versace wedding gown….IT WAS $23,000!!!! 👀 It was a simple column shaped dress with incredible top stitching on the sides…it was beautiful, but I thought 8 maybe even $10,000!!! Well they only have to make it twice, the sample and the person who orders it….designers got to eat!
You should have done within 10 or 15% so it scales.
Oh yeah imma chime in on the ‘can’t wait for your take on the Margiela show’ I’ll be there with 🍿!!!
Is that the kiko arcadia blazer you got on ?
nah im bullshiting wtf
Nope, Edward Cumming suit 💫💫
Thanks :)@@BlissFoster
I love all your vids, keep up the amazing work. I got like 3 right.
but it looks fire
What is the brand of the shirt he is wearing?
It’s an old Y/Project turtleneck 💫💫
Bro literally got 8 😂 I was so on the money
I have been watching your videos for about two years! Just joined the patreon and discord!
No way! Thank you so much 🙏🙏
This was funsies!
But it’s ALL expensive. If you can’t afford one thing, what does it matter if the other thing costs as much as a car
bro how did u think that first coat was actually $1250
Hermes alligator leather $100,000 t-shirt
okayy i also got 5 points!
I cannot wait for you to post your Margiella review. We need to hear from you babe ❤
It’s 100% coming 💫💫
I love ❤
I have a question; do you not offer the discord server anymore paying for your patreon? Or am i stupid and missed something?
We offer it! If you’re having trouble, send me a message on Patreon and we’ll get you sorted 💫💫
do you think galliano kills the margiela dna? especially in the new show
cars is america are too cheap. gas in america is too cheap. and we all know how that is achieved.
£15
I will sign up on Patreon if you make the end card 20 seconds shorter from now on
I DM''d you a very funny and important story. Please read it when have time. xx
Oh shit last time I watched you had NO HAIR😂😂 nice to be back.
So fun 👏👏👏
This stuff makes no sense to me.... especially for people who claim to love clothes. Clothes are about the quality and style, not the price tag. But so much of this is more about extreme displays of wealth while SACRIFICING the quality and style.
I guess high fashion is for people who hate clothes? And want to use it for clout instead of comfort / style / elegance.
$2500 for a sleeping bag… why?!? More importantly, who??
I will guess the price before i watch the video: overpriced
Hi🌸I'm a 22 year old fashion designer from Iran . One of my designs was worn by Taylor Swift in her eras tour and another brand was credited for it.🥺 I made a video about it explaining what happened💗
hhahaha price is right fashun edition.
What kind of lunatic buys designer sleeping bag? I dont get it.
Good vid
i got 8
Yes to Jill Sander!
2
have you seen something with a price tag that high before in pretend life? 😜
i got a 4 lol
on the price is right, you loose at $1 over. you still lost
UNPOPULAR QUESTION: What do you think about the fashion industry's obsession with and appropriating Native American art and textiles? There's such a long list of it. I'm alaskan native, east coast Native and Caribbean and have seen it happen especially in southwest culture. Some examples are the Jeremy Scott × Addisas international line that stole artwork from my tribe in southeast Alaska and the most recent controversy of Pharrell's continued use of plains and southwest esthetics in his personal style and the recent LV show. Another example is Ralph Lauren's appropriation of the Cowichan wool Sweater of Vancouver Island native cultures.
Putting this back in the feed! Would really really like insight about this because it's what discourages me from being excited about LV and other brands that don't contribute their inspiration financially from cultures and history that has been overlooked since colonization
I can think of a bunch of amazing and avante-garde Indigenous designers from the US and Canada that do runway shows in Santa Fe & Vancouver as well as red carpet walks for Indigenous celebrities
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Bliss, this just shows your knowledge of fashion is confined at the moment to Radical Fashion and not mainstream fashion. Not a criticism, there is room for all kinds of fashion critics.
First?
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
Confirmed :)
Love to you both, Cathy and Steve 💫💫
@@BlissFoster Wha-hoo! Love back to you both...