My 6th attempt to charge at EA on a 150kW charger was successful in Punta Gorda, FL. I’m convinced that it’s an EA charger compatibility problem with MB. The dealer confirmed car account was properly set up, so only issue remaining was charger. If one charger fails at EA,try re-plugging so it makes a better connection. Also, try a different stall. Level 3 and L2 with ChargePoint worked perfectly. L2 on SemaConnect also was flawless. Some chargers require your MercedesMe RFID card.
Very good. A pity you didn't have the clock, top right, in the frame at the start of the time-lapse! You'll have to do this again in warmer weather too!
Great looking car... Good presentation! The driver lane assist distronic extended restart in stop and go traffic (auto pilot) is better than Tesla in some ways... Very impressed so far. Yes, I own one of these.... and traded my Model 3 for it... Thank you!
Honestly, vehicles with +90 kWh net battery, should have 800 V at least, to make the charging even faster and more efficient.... Superb video @KrisRifa, keep it up man !!
Happy to see a flat charging curve. This might not be peak numbers but.could possibly be the highest average as environmental conditions aided in cooling the pack. 🤔
113kW at 80% makes me insanely jealous! That type of charging capability makes me wonder if cars should offer drivers different charging modes? One mode front loads the max kW to add range quickly at the beginning of the session but tapers down, the alternative mode offers a level charge curve that is more consistent. Both modes get to 80% in the same time but with different profiles.
As I understand it the ID GTX will have a faster/max charge at the beginning and taper down for expert drivers, while the regular big battery IDs will get a more consistent charge curve that is even faster to 80 % for the average joe.
Charge curve appears to be quite robust, at 50 % it hits and follows the original curve while Taycan or ID have trouble to charge fast later on, if they started too cold. 🤔 Ioniq 5 also did not accept more than 122 kW at 60 % SoC iirc (Electric Dave at Nordkapp Challenge) even when it warmed up to 25 degrees.
good test, i would like to see you streamline your charts more in the future though. I.E. show testing conditions, like temperature and driving pattern. You do the latter somewhat by denoting "motorway" "automatic" and even "jo-jo/active". However, i do think that the outside temperatures are even more important. I would also have liked to see you not "cheat" by driving in a tunnel as much, and rather kept it as "real world" as possible. As we know, the Ioniq 5 has the same architecture and flaws as the Ev6, so either the EV6 belongs up with the Ioniq 5, or the Ioniq 5 belongs down with the EV6. Or you could give the chart more context by showing the temperatures :) some people might assume the cars have been tested under similar conditions, even though you say to take it with a grain of salt.
Totally agree with you. As I'm driving Tesla MY for an about a month, I wanted to see the temperature in the chart to make my conclusion and to make real comparison or close enough!
Did you do the preheating trick as advised? Actually navigate to a destination beyond, so that you have your test charger as an internally planned charging stop? 🤔 And what does the ABB display look like, did they make improvements? Alpitronic seems to have an update on some EnBW chargers in Germany already with a modernized user interface that can also display your charge curve. 👍 Btw, at 3:20 the clock is partly out of frame, so we cannot see at which time it started with 10 % SoC.
@@KrisRifa It does preheat the battery. If you put 1000km destination into the nav it will pick chargers for you and it will preheat for those chargers between the route. It works differently compared to other EVs. It will not preheat if you put charging station as a destination. Bjorn tested it.
Interesting to note your Ioniq 5 time of 22min, guessing it was in the cold as well. As I've seen others test charging and they got it(10-80%) within the advertised 18min time that Hyundai states. The EQS I'm sure re-doing this test in summer which would be a good thing to if you can at optimum temps of say 20-25c to see what difference it makes.
Consider setting the charging station as your destination in the navigation system. The Taycan pre-heats the battery for optimal temp when you do that. From Bjorn's video I suspect the EQS does the same - he got 200 KW if I remember correctly. That will explain why you got a peak of 160 KW well into the charging - it was only then you had the optimal temp in the battery. Thank you for the nice videos.
Let's see if we will see this year the "model q or model 2" with a realistic range of 250 280 miles realistic range and new battery pack with a guarantee of 12 years or 250.000 miles and battery capacity 75 per cent after those miles! And we need a cheaper evs less than 25.000 pounds with 280 realistic miles even less even 20.000 pounds!!! And also we need real green energy and power and batteries recycling more than 95 per cent and able to be used for at least 3 or 4 more times,! Let's hope tesla or other companies are able to facilitate that in 2023 or 2024!!
Kris, just to let you know before I even really start to watch this video that if you don't quit with the amazingly annoying zooms in and out for no earthly reason I will have to conjure daemons to hunt you down. Just so you know :)
My 6th attempt to charge at EA on a 150kW charger was successful in Punta Gorda, FL. I’m convinced that it’s an EA charger compatibility problem with MB. The dealer confirmed car account was properly set up, so only issue remaining was charger. If one charger fails at EA,try re-plugging so it makes a better connection. Also, try a different stall.
Level 3 and L2 with ChargePoint worked perfectly. L2 on SemaConnect also was flawless. Some chargers require your MercedesMe RFID card.
EA seems to be having problems across the board independent of manufacturer 😬 the chargers that EA uses seems to very unreliable
That's actually pretty impressive performance for the temperature. It will be interesting to see what it can do in the summer.
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Very good. A pity you didn't have the clock, top right, in the frame at the start of the time-lapse! You'll have to do this again in warmer weather too!
Drew you pity too much there bud
Great looking car... Good presentation! The driver lane assist
distronic extended restart in stop and go traffic (auto pilot) is better
than Tesla in some ways... Very impressed so far. Yes, I own one of
these.... and traded my Model 3 for it... Thank you!
Honestly, vehicles with +90 kWh net battery, should have 800 V at least, to make the charging even faster and more efficient....
Superb video @KrisRifa, keep it up man !!
Happy to see a flat charging curve. This might not be peak numbers but.could possibly be the highest average as environmental conditions aided in cooling the pack. 🤔
113kW at 80% makes me insanely jealous! That type of charging capability makes me wonder if cars should offer drivers different charging modes? One mode front loads the max kW to add range quickly at the beginning of the session but tapers down, the alternative mode offers a level charge curve that is more consistent. Both modes get to 80% in the same time but with different profiles.
As I understand it the ID GTX will have a faster/max charge at the beginning and taper down for expert drivers, while the regular big battery IDs will get a more consistent charge curve that is even faster to 80 % for the average joe.
We have a 400kW charger in Denmark. Guess Its more than 360kW 🤔
Charge curve appears to be quite robust, at 50 % it hits and follows the original curve while Taycan or ID have trouble to charge fast later on, if they started too cold. 🤔
Ioniq 5 also did not accept more than 122 kW at 60 % SoC iirc (Electric Dave at Nordkapp Challenge) even when it warmed up to 25 degrees.
You didn't use the preconditioning, the car does when it has the navigation activated with the charging stop included?
I navigated to the charger, this car does not preheat the battery though.
good test, i would like to see you streamline your charts more in the future though. I.E. show testing conditions, like temperature and driving pattern. You do the latter somewhat by denoting "motorway" "automatic" and even "jo-jo/active". However, i do think that the outside temperatures are even more important. I would also have liked to see you not "cheat" by driving in a tunnel as much, and rather kept it as "real world" as possible. As we know, the Ioniq 5 has the same architecture and flaws as the Ev6, so either the EV6 belongs up with the Ioniq 5, or the Ioniq 5 belongs down with the EV6. Or you could give the chart more context by showing the temperatures :)
some people might assume the cars have been tested under similar conditions, even though you say to take it with a grain of salt.
Totally agree with you. As I'm driving Tesla MY for an about a month, I wanted to see the temperature in the chart to make my conclusion and to make real comparison or close enough!
My Ioniq 6 10 to 80 % 17 degC no preheating: 20 minutes.
Did you do the preheating trick as advised?
Actually navigate to a destination beyond, so that you have your test charger as an internally planned charging stop? 🤔
And what does the ABB display look like, did they make improvements?
Alpitronic seems to have an update on some EnBW chargers in Germany already with a modernized user interface that can also display your charge curve. 👍
Btw, at 3:20 the clock is partly out of frame, so we cannot see at which time it started with 10 % SoC.
Yes navigated to the charger and also tried doing this earlier and it does not make a difference, hence the EQS does not seem to preheat the battery 😊
@@KrisRifa It does preheat the battery. If you put 1000km destination into the nav it will pick chargers for you and it will preheat for those chargers between the route. It works differently compared to other EVs. It will not preheat if you put charging station as a destination. Bjorn tested it.
Interesting to note your Ioniq 5 time of 22min, guessing it was in the cold as well. As I've seen others test charging and they got it(10-80%) within the advertised 18min time that Hyundai states. The EQS I'm sure re-doing this test in summer which would be a good thing to if you can at optimum temps of say 20-25c to see what difference it makes.
He lives in Cold weather probably that may be the reason
Consider setting the charging station as your destination in the navigation system. The Taycan pre-heats the battery for optimal temp when you do that. From Bjorn's video I suspect the EQS does the same - he got 200 KW if I remember correctly. That will explain why you got a peak of 160 KW well into the charging - it was only then you had the optimal temp in the battery. Thank you for the nice videos.
Maybe you can repeat the test on spring or summer.
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Great data. But somewhat I was hoping for a better charging speed. Is this because of 400v architecture...?
When EQS was a conceptcar Mercedes said it would be able to charge from 10 to 80% in less than 20 min on a 350 kW charger. So I am not impressed
Very true. Also Porsche Taycan when releases, it says it will be available in 350kwh charging. After two years of wait, its still only 170kwh
It took 35 mins to charged 10-80%, this assuming there are no one ahead of you.
What happened to your GT?
Let's see if we will see this year the "model q or model 2" with a realistic range of 250 280 miles realistic range and new battery pack with a guarantee of 12 years or 250.000 miles and battery capacity 75 per cent after those miles! And we need a cheaper evs less than 25.000 pounds with 280 realistic miles even less even 20.000 pounds!!! And also we need real green energy and power and batteries recycling more than 95 per cent and able to be used for at least 3 or 4 more times,! Let's hope tesla or other companies are able to facilitate that in 2023 or 2024!!
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Bro people r really out here hyping up a car charger. EVs truly are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the car community.
Nice to see this car with a black interior. The white made me want to vomit!
Kris, my 2018 DMM3 Tesla will run over 103 mph with 3% battery. I was only 3 miles from home.
And then do it with -6°C ;-)
Kris, just to let you know before I even really start to watch this video that if you don't quit with the amazingly annoying zooms in and out for no earthly reason I will have to conjure daemons to hunt you down. Just so you know :)
Everybody know that once you hit a certain level on UA-cam, the only way to ride the algorithm is random zooms 🙈😂So send the demons!
stop with the bla bla bla bla.. just go straight to the point!