Homemade TURBO Install on Engine 200cc !?

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  • @MArcin91
    @MArcin91 9 місяців тому +60

    3 reasons why this turbo kit doesn't work.
    1. WG valve flap is open so it does not generate any boost. (You can see how loose it is at 16:08)
    2. blow through system without fuel pressure compensation will work for a few seconds until the boost returns all the fuel from the carburetor to the tank.
    3. oil drain from the turbo. Do you really expect that some magical force will push the turbo oil uphill into the tank? The fact that there is no smoke in the video is probably the result of the fact that the fuel pump that is supposed to pump the oil probably cannot pump the oil to the turbine.
    Do not get me wrong. It's not that I'm criticizing your work. But when you do something, try not to make basic mistakes that would be noticed by someone who knows something about it. Your turbo kit may work, but it requires some work.
    My suggested solutions to the problem
    1. Weld the WG (you have no control over the boost) or reinstall the actuator
    2. There are two options. Fuel pump (min. 1bar/15psi) with a fuel pressure regulator or a simpler method like in RC models, connect the boost from the intake to the fuel tank. Fuel pressure must increase with boost.
    3. There are also two options. Second return pump or install the receiver below the turbocharger. And make sure oil is flowing to turbocharger. If there is a problem with this, try using oil with a lower viscosity, e.g. 0w8 or 2t or mix diesel fuel + oil.

    • @nano-kevinlockhart2295
      @nano-kevinlockhart2295 9 місяців тому +7

      Another solution could also be to place the turbo after the carburetor, so it doesn't pressurize the fuel

    • @wesulius
      @wesulius 9 місяців тому +1

      @@nano-kevinlockhart2295
      yes, but then the supercharger should be an ihi turbo with a carbon seal

    • @1nvisible1
      @1nvisible1 8 місяців тому +2

      *His angle grinder work is top notch, brackets look plasma-cut.*

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 6 місяців тому

      The magical force is the pump, creating pressure in bearing journal. Oil in oil out.

  • @hydrocarbon82
    @hydrocarbon82 8 місяців тому +33

    Only problem here: it simply won't make extra HP with that wastegate arm flopping around with no actuator. It's going to be both an exhaust and intake restriction.

  • @YaKnowWhatOfficial
    @YaKnowWhatOfficial 7 місяців тому +180

    Calling BS on this video, The wastegate is hanging open so its making absolutely no boost, and you have a blow-through setup which will not work for gravity fed fueling. You need a pull through set up, but then again, puting a turbo designed for a 1-2 litre engine on a 200cc engine wont yield results anyway, as it cannot put out enough exhaust volume to get the turbine spinning fast enough to make any real boost.

    • @bryanmcleod9346
      @bryanmcleod9346 7 місяців тому +17

      Any amount of boost (even 2 to 3 psi) will be very noticeable, if the air/fuel ratio is correct.

    • @CC3series
      @CC3series 7 місяців тому +20

      Dont forget the turbo oil system lol, Surprised it isn't smoking like a train with the oil drain feeding upwards. For sure this thing makes less power now

    • @everettstormy
      @everettstormy 7 місяців тому +8

      @@CC3series it literally ran like shit. Ivd seen his other videos and now it dies when he gets off

    • @beboboymann3823
      @beboboymann3823 7 місяців тому +3

      Interesting…….would love to watch your video showing your fabrication skills…..so if you would kindly direct us to where you’ve posted your handiwork we will indeed watch them.

    • @everettstormy
      @everettstormy 7 місяців тому +7

      @@beboboymann3823 its not about fab skills this isnt even that impressive its just scap metal welded together with a cheap mig. I know becuase I do the same thing lol. And you can clearly dee in the video the engine runs poorly

  • @mazdamaniac4643
    @mazdamaniac4643 9 місяців тому +19

    I'm trying to work out why you removed the wastegate actuator. There's nothing regulating the amount of boost from the turbo any more.
    It works both ways, maintaining backpressure in the turbo to spool it up, then reliving excess boost to stop you nuking the engine.
    In the end, you've added a bigger carburettor and a fan in the exhaust that's not doing anything meaningful but generate noise to 'sound more powerful'.

    • @djilu9916
      @djilu9916 8 місяців тому +1

      a turbo from a 1.6l engine wont nuke a 200cc engine, it barely spins enough lol

    • @mazdamaniac4643
      @mazdamaniac4643 8 місяців тому +1

      @@djilu9916 Yes it can, it's got nothing to do with how fast it spins or what engine it was from, it's how much air that turbocharger is flowing at any given moment and what it's doing to the fuel-air mixture going into the engine.
      Too rich and it'll bog down and stall, but too lean for even a moment..it'll detonate. Ka-boom. Bye-bye piston, conrod and crankcase.
      Look at the video again and note carefully that he's driving it around with the turbocharger wastegate actuator completely removed. You can see the wastegate control arm bouncing around on the manifold. This means that turbocharger has absolutely no way of regulating itself because of that...which means that the fuel-air mixture is probably all over the place already.

    • @villekinnunen6357
      @villekinnunen6357 8 місяців тому +1

      @@mazdamaniac4643naah.. it wont make any boost, turbo is way too big to spool up. and it's not explode right away when it goes lean(withing seconds).

    • @mazdamaniac4643
      @mazdamaniac4643 8 місяців тому

      ​@@villekinnunen6357 You're entitled to your assumption.
      It's not about boost, it's about flow. Even with that turbo being way too big for that engine (if it was hooked up correctly) it flows far too much air through that carburettor for the fuel mixture to ever be controlled accurately.
      With a turbocharger fitted onto an engine that was never designed for it, things go wrong very quickly. A suddenly lean mixture can, will and does detonate engines...you've likely seen it happen on many of the exploding engines on dyno's vids.
      Lean mixtures are the bane of turbo's, because an engine that begins to run lean starts to generate excessive exhaust gas pressure, which spins the turbo up more for a moment, adding to the problem more quickly than someone can react to. Instinct says to dump the throttle, 9 times out of 10, that's when the engine detonates because the fuel is snapped shut and goes extremely lean. Just one explosion event happening in the cylinder within a microsecond at high rpm or load is all it takes...bye bye piston and conrod.
      This is why turbocharged engines on carbs typically run on the rich side of fuelling, so they have as much tolerance for some uneven fuel mixture as possible, to reduce that risk. It's difficult and complicated to make a carburettor run rich, against boost, when the throttle is snapped shut.

    • @Sanek0412
      @Sanek0412 6 місяців тому

      он просто прикрутил турбину как декорацию, она в работе мотора не принимает участия

  • @ax_rief
    @ax_rief 8 місяців тому +12

    Nooo, you must put the carburetor BEFORE the turbo, otherwise the pressure from the turbo will push the fuel back from the carburetor, hence make less power. so the "extra power" you feel is just because you've upgraded the carburetor

  • @rgreerjr
    @rgreerjr 7 місяців тому +40

    lets put a turbo on a 200cc engine but take off the wastegate and leave it open so that all the exhaust bypasses the turbine and we create no boost.

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 6 місяців тому +2

      Except if you have ever built anything with a turbo you know that air moving in a direction doesn't make sharp angles unless forced to because of excessive pressure from the air volume not being able to clear the turbine fast enough and then it will take the path of least resistance. Personally I have put bolts and washers through the bypass. Redneck rocket

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 4 місяці тому +2

      @rgreerjr the exhaust gas is moving towards the exducer at the speed of Poof, why would it all collectively decide to take a random direction that requires quite a bit of force. Put hands front leaf blower, why does air not go around?? I am trying to spread knowledge not arguments. Civil discourse is how we save the world not one yelling at another who's also yelling.

    • @skatingclaybird
      @skatingclaybird 4 місяці тому

      Ah we forgot laws of physics where the easiest path taken isn’t the sharp turn to open air that is a vastly different temperature

  • @promotiveeng
    @promotiveeng 7 місяців тому +18

    🤔 pretty sure
    1. Carb has to go in front of turbo not after it.
    2. Turbo is too big for that motor.
    3. Why is the waste-gate disconnected? 4. Why the extra long exhaust header? Seems like shortest path would be best for such a smaller single cylinder motor.
    🤷🏻‍♂️ but hey, it’s a cool novelty item. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 respect the effort/build.

    • @TheScrider
      @TheScrider 6 місяців тому

      why draw thru in this case?

  • @Grizzly_CH
    @Grizzly_CH Місяць тому +3

    Nice work ! there are some things that are not correct but you can fix them and have great results !
    1) Waste-gate is not closed so -> NO BOOST & 2) if even there was boost, carburator use ventury to "suck" gas with very little vaccum... is you have boost, it will push the gas, not suck it...
    What to do: 1) Close the waste-gate ! & 2) the carburator must be placed befor the turbo (suction side)

  • @hardrivethrutown
    @hardrivethrutown 9 місяців тому +8

    I think all the power increase you got was just from the new carb, the waste gate is open so you're getting no boost, would be a good thing to add a boost gauge and see how much you're actually getting.

  • @kemottomtr
    @kemottomtr 9 місяців тому +7

    Problems:
    1. pressurized carb - pushes fuel back to the tank on boost
    2. wastegate - should be closed or set to open at specific pressure
    3. turbo size - way too big for 200cc engine
    It revs higher because of bigger carb, not by the boost.
    I'd like to see dyno session before and after

  • @kimahlmann6707
    @kimahlmann6707 5 місяців тому +11

    Carb is mounted wromg, you have to mount it at the turbo inlet. Otherwise the turbo pressure will push the gasoline back through the jet down in the carb sump and whenever there is a small presure in the system it will restrict engine power and rpm…. Mount it correctly and ill promise there will be better difference ❤

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 8 місяців тому +19

    The improvement here is from the carb and removal of the governor control, not the turbo.

    • @jasonwaig7376
      @jasonwaig7376 7 місяців тому +1

      Heck, it sounds cool. With the turbo whine noise. This is still way better than individuals who put a giant wing on the back of their front wheel drive car. This is just cool to say, "my mowers' got a turbo on it". I wish I could say that.

  • @medajim9092
    @medajim9092 7 місяців тому +11

    no turbo boost being made. if it was then the unpressurized fuel would back feed and the engine would stall

  • @busarob1969
    @busarob1969 8 місяців тому +25

    Sorry got to call Bull shit on this! having done this for a living, built many turbo motorcycles and car engines, this video looks great if you have no ideal whats going on!
    here are the issues,
    1: you cant gravity feed fuel to a blow through carby set up! fuel pressure needs to be higher than boost pressure or the fuel wont flow into the foat bowl.
    2: some sort of fuel enrichment needs to happen when on boost, additional boost pressure needs to be sent to fuel bowl under boost as well as aditional fuel pressure.
    3: with out ignition retard on boost or very high octane fuel, this engine will detonate it self to death
    4: this engines, internal splash oil lubrication wont work well under the additional load of turbo charging.
    5: to make more engine power the engine must see boost ! hard for a turbo to do that when you didnt fit the waste gate ! i am gueesing the engine would not run due the the mentioned carby issues
    so to make this turbo engine run, he had to remove the waste gate controller! that means no boost.
    no boost no additinal hp made, so a total waste of time!
    this video is nothing more than a deception , the guy making this video has no idea!

    • @matoba2709
      @matoba2709 8 місяців тому +2

      Totally agree

    • @serenerebel1983
      @serenerebel1983 8 місяців тому +3

      came here to say that

    • @MegaEvoluzione
      @MegaEvoluzione 8 місяців тому +2

      I noticed the wastegate disconnected, also noticed the lack of a fuel pump. If he fixed these issues he might run 0.3 bar not more and make about 10 hp and the carburetor tuning would be very difficult to say the least, better run fuel injection.

    • @staticpigeon2137
      @staticpigeon2137 8 місяців тому +1

      @@serenerebel1983 same

  • @robertmason8341
    @robertmason8341 8 місяців тому +12

    Can’t put boost thru a carb that way. When it turns from vacuum to boost it will force fuel the wrong direction thru the jets and blow fuel out the float bowl vent pipes. You have to add a small vaccuum hose and direct pressure to the float bowl vents to equalize pressure inside the float bowl when under boost. Besides that it can be made to work!

    • @Aaron-jx2rv
      @Aaron-jx2rv 8 місяців тому +1

      it would help to even make boost the waste gate was just flopping

    • @петяпетечкин-я8г
      @петяпетечкин-я8г 8 місяців тому

      просто нужно вокруг карбюратора камеру сделать. давление должно быть одинаковым и на впуске и вокруг карбюратора. ну и жиклер увеличить и иглу поднять

  • @raleighhowell8029
    @raleighhowell8029 4 місяці тому +8

    if the wastegate was shut it would still run like ass because any time it builds a fraction of boost it'd force the fuel right back into the jets, you need to have fuel pressure that exceeds boost pressure in a blow thru setup. you can place the carb on the other side of the turbo for what's called draw thru to circumvent this. you also need a way to retard the timing per pound of boost to keep it out of detonation and make it survive.
    from there you just have to worry about keeping it cool.

  • @keekmotorsportmldc
    @keekmotorsportmldc 9 місяців тому +23

    Wastegate actuator left the chat. Still working as N/A 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda 9 місяців тому +6

    Not a bad job but it looks like the only power gain was from the slide carburetor and governor bypass...both allowing it to rev past 3-3600 rpms. It certainly didn't sound like it was making boost.

    • @matty4z
      @matty4z 9 місяців тому

      sounds like it makes no boost because of this reason lol 10:04

  • @damnyiffers
    @damnyiffers 8 місяців тому +8

    11:04 okay i see what people are bitching about now. He obviously assumed the standard wastegate would build too much psi and blow the motor apart. So he either needs to install some sort of electronic boost controller or a lower pressure waste gate. Unfortunately yes this engine wont make any boost and youll actually have put a big drain on it by restricting air intake and exhaust with longer tubes and a turbine

    • @fryloc359
      @fryloc359 8 місяців тому +1

      I doubt that tiny engine wuld build much boost anyway, let alone enough to blow the motor up.

  • @TheSmallEngineShed
    @TheSmallEngineShed 4 місяці тому +8

    This engine isn't making any boost. If it was making boost it would rev up and then bog out when it starts to make boost. To do this properly I'd weld shut the waste gate (because you don't need it) and equally pressurise the carburettor and fuel tank. I know this works because I've done it myself on my channel.

  • @jonaboratdi
    @jonaboratdi 9 місяців тому +8

    the wastegate valve without the wg actuator it's always in open bro :D so the turbo not boosting...

  • @NickXabias
    @NickXabias 8 місяців тому +7

    Nice build but the turbo system didn't do anything at all.😅 First of all it doesn't make boost because the wastegate is always open, second if it made boost it wouldn't work just like that. The turbo oil drain has to be higher than the tank. The only thing that made the engine a little more aggressive is that PWK.😅😅

  • @gabrielvega3399
    @gabrielvega3399 9 місяців тому +3

    You can play with the wastegate for more boost and power. (Always checking the boost pressure). Nice job!!!

  • @DieCastoms
    @DieCastoms 9 місяців тому +3

    get a double-throw switch. run ground to the center of the switch. run one side of the switch to the engine kill wire, and run the other side of the switch to the pump ground. run A FUSED WIRE from battery positive to the pump positive.
    switch on = oilpump on and "run"
    switch off = oilpump off and engine-kill.
    you wont be able to run the engine without the oil pump switched on!

  • @Bombs_Welt
    @Bombs_Welt 5 місяців тому +8

    Der Vergaser gehört dahin, wo du den Luftfilter montiert hast! Wenn du dann noch das Wastegateventil wieder anbaust und den Vergaser anständig abstimmst, könnte das sogar funktionieren. So wie du es gebaut hast, setzt du nur den Vergaser unter Druck, der Kraftstoff wird durch die Düsen in die Schwimmerkammer zurück gepresst und dein Motor geht aus! An sich sehr schöne Arbeit, aber leider technisch fehlerhaft.

    • @Justin-z1v
      @Justin-z1v 5 місяців тому

      Glaube der Vergaser muss erst nach dem Turbolader sein weil es sonnst in den Turbo zu Explosionen kommen kann. Sowie in den Video gezeigt

    • @Bombs_Welt
      @Bombs_Welt 5 місяців тому

      @@Justin-z1v das stimmt nicht, der vergaser muss vor dem Turbolader liegen. Sobald er danach liegt, funktioniert er schlichtweg nicht mehr. Dann müsste eine druckresistente Einspritzung verbaut werden.
      Warum sollte denn im Turbo etwas explodieren? Es entstehen keine Funken oder ähnliches. Das ist ein mechanisches ölgeschmiertes Bauteil wie auch die Einlassventile beim Viertakter.

    • @helmutweidemeier7940
      @helmutweidemeier7940 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Bombs_Welt du hast vollkommen recht!! so wie er es gebaut hat kann es nicht funktionieren

  • @dennisvanderstar7861
    @dennisvanderstar7861 9 місяців тому +2

    Your coolest projects really look like a cool update to that racing tractor. always fun to watch your videos. enjoy your weekend. 😘🤠❄️🇳🇱

  • @Senditforlife
    @Senditforlife Місяць тому +5

    Oh it revs much higher and is more aggressive maybe cuz you de-governed the engine and made essentially a fancy strait pipe because the waste gate is open because you have a longer air intake and a long pressure exhaust you more than likely slowed it down

  • @ShawnLighten
    @ShawnLighten 8 місяців тому +10

    Take off the carb and mount it on the turbo inlet and remove the Wastegate

  • @flappingflight8537
    @flappingflight8537 9 місяців тому +4

    “ Now , the engine looks like much more powerful “ :)

  • @nathanielwinkle1955
    @nathanielwinkle1955 9 місяців тому +10

    The carb should go on the intake of the turbocharger and then into the engine

    • @Guds777
      @Guds777 9 місяців тому

      Are you a rocket scientist...

    • @mazdamaniac4643
      @mazdamaniac4643 9 місяців тому +4

      @@Guds777 Basic physics dude.
      Suck-through carburettors need a partial vacuum on the intake side of it to work correctly. Applying positive boost pressure from a turbocharger blows air backwards through the carburettor's internals and completely messes up the fuel/air mixture being delivered out of the carburettor, usually leans it right out. It can also cause the petrol in the float bowl to blown right out of it's vent and then force air into the fuel tank when the float drops, instantly starving the carburettor of fuel.
      This is why you have either sealed blow-through carbs with fuel pumps feeding them, or you have a suck-through mounted in front of the turbo inlet...or fuel injection.

    • @nathanielwinkle1955
      @nathanielwinkle1955 8 місяців тому

      @@Guds777 Sorry no not that clever, I am only a time served mechanic of 50 years and have worked on Mitsubishi Starion full blown rally cars, super charged 6.5 Lt Shelby Cobras, Chrysler Tigers and full blown Mini Coopers (1960s) to name but a few so I shouldn't comment on things I know nothing about, sorry 😔
      ,

  • @mikemakuh5319
    @mikemakuh5319 9 місяців тому +144

    Nice try kid but if it was making ANY boost it would not run! It would pressurize the carb and not let any fuel into it.

    • @c.j.s.2767
      @c.j.s.2767 9 місяців тому +8

      Agreed, need to plug the vents and use a fuel press. regulator with a boost reference to match fuel & boost press. equally to have any luck. E.F.I. is the way to go imo.

    • @СергейВихров-з9ы
      @СергейВихров-з9ы 9 місяців тому +9

      The carburetor should stand up to the turbine

    • @mikemakuh5319
      @mikemakuh5319 9 місяців тому +3

      @@paradiselost9946I don't catch your drift, but I do think your right on with more B.S. as this video is too.

    • @mikemakuh5319
      @mikemakuh5319 9 місяців тому +4

      @@paradiselost9946P,S, By the way Mr."carburetor whiz" there is no "pitot tube" in a carburetor. They are on the outside of airplanes or wherever there is a need to measure the velocity of fluids or gases. You sound like you have lost something besides paradise.

    • @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx
      @UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx 9 місяців тому +6

      Does nobody know how a carb works, hello? Uhh, venturi. The boost would just blow over it and suck more fuel with it

  • @Taigavarpu
    @Taigavarpu 7 місяців тому +9

    Turbo is too large. Even if it was smaller, here are things he got wrong.
    1-Wastegate open. (There cannot be more air-fuel mixture in engine during power stroke. Which is the whole point of turbo)
    2-Too little oil in the system (oil went to hoses and did not add more.)
    3-Oil volume for turbo is too low, and does not have filter. And due to low volume of oil, it will get too hot.
    4-carburator needs to be before turbo intake
    5-engine is aircooled, and it probably melts after short period (assuming all the problems regarding turbo are fixed)
    Nice idea. And nicely fabricated parts using simple tools.
    Unfortunately it was more like 5-minute crafts. Pointless hand waving, without intention to success.

  • @davessparetime83
    @davessparetime83 7 місяців тому +4

    Need to remove governor, install billet flywheel, billet connecting rod, stronger valve springs and performance camshaft for high RPM.

  • @larsjrgensen5975
    @larsjrgensen5975 8 місяців тому +10

    Along with multiple other problems with this build, the Turbo oil drain can not be higher then the turbo.

  • @Schroefdoppie
    @Schroefdoppie 9 місяців тому +5

    Yeah....we don't need no stinkin' waste gate! LOL😂🤣😆🤣

  • @HicVenariHicSalta
    @HicVenariHicSalta 7 місяців тому +6

    We Build da Kohler V2 for real lawnmower Racing, Natural Aspirated.. finest stuff.. puts 73HP on crank… thats just a optical Benefit

    • @FarmerDrew
      @FarmerDrew 7 місяців тому

      I need to put one of these in a Beetle

  • @4gclipseGT
    @4gclipseGT 7 місяців тому +3

    nice video and editing. I enjoyed the process. figure out a way to control that wastegate. stick a super low PSI spring in there - maybe 3-4 psi. then use a manual controller to adjust up from there just to start. Also build yourself a stack with a wideband bung in there to monitor the engines AFR. adjust the carb to keep it around 10.5 - 11.5 in boost and you'll easily triple your horsepower. anyone commenting saying the turbo is too big for the project really just doesnt understand how it all works. you're not spooling it because the wastegate is open. not because its "too big".

  • @cheythompson740
    @cheythompson740 8 місяців тому +15

    How's it make boost with the waste gate flapping around?

  • @White.Elemant
    @White.Elemant 8 місяців тому +4

    Love the build, but I don't think the exhaust flow will be enough to do much with that size turbo. Which is good since if it did, that engine would definitely toss a cranck 😅😊

  • @joshhall35
    @joshhall35 3 місяці тому +14

    There is so much wrong with the setup, that carby is not setup up for blow thru turbo operation also will need a fuel pump. Will also need a scavenger pump to return oil from the turbo to the tank. Waste gate not even hooked up so was not making boost. It annoyed me that I watched it till the end🤦

    • @RogerResulta
      @RogerResulta Місяць тому

      I sadgest the marine engine dif, but my engine is pro quep 22 HP, marine engine whed oil pump same like motor cycle pump ithik there is improvement,

  • @viviano3846
    @viviano3846 9 місяців тому +12

    funny idea, but here it's only for decoration

  • @hallodjordje
    @hallodjordje 9 місяців тому +1

    Sve pohvale majstore🥇👍👍👍

  • @MrDankyny
    @MrDankyny 9 місяців тому +6

    I think we all want to see more about your project bmw pickup

  • @jamesfowler4585
    @jamesfowler4585 8 місяців тому +2

    You need to re-jet your carb. My son and I and our friends build racing mini bikes with 212cc motors all the time. If your carb came with a jet kit make sure that you check to see which one came pre-installed on the carb because we have to change the jets to like a 130 sometimes a bit lower but you will get the most horsepower out of it and it will run smoothly.

  • @andyfallencoff7761
    @andyfallencoff7761 9 місяців тому +3

    even though the carb is the only real power gain its still looks cool just need to do some modifcations and revision

  • @geo2cv6tron14
    @geo2cv6tron14 9 місяців тому +1

    Best upgrade ever 🤩👍

  • @luckymac54
    @luckymac54 5 місяців тому +4

    Турбина в состоянии смеха ))) ей мало этих оборотов и объема выхлопных газов для раскрутки. Но молодец что сделал.

  • @DM-wp9vq
    @DM-wp9vq 8 місяців тому +2

    The tractor looks awesome, and as one other commenter said, your fab skillz are 10/10. But yes, a mechanical fuel fump with a greater psi rating (by at least what the engine needs to run N/A) would make it so that turbno (yes, i spelled it that way on purpose) would actually add boost. It also needs a small intercooler. Think stock Suburu WRX/Suzuki Alto Works style, or even a larger sized heater core if that youtubesteak skrill is running thin.

  • @geop6132
    @geop6132 8 місяців тому +30

    Blow through carb setup with no fuel pump, carb vent lines open, turbo waste gate open. Fabricating skills 10/10. Engine, turbo and carb knowledge 0/10

    • @IamJoeTV
      @IamJoeTV 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah this video is mainly about the views and money, teaching viewers anything valuable isn't what they do.

    • @ClaudioVolber
      @ClaudioVolber 8 місяців тому +3

      Funny video, it must have been really good, especially with the west gate open, without a carburetor doser and with the turbo oil drain higher than the turbo!😂😂😂

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 4 місяці тому

      @geop6132 just because it has a turbo doesn't mean it id's under boost @all times. He's using a fuel pedal to accelerate. So if the tank wasn't vented every time you come off throttle fuel returns to bowl or a pulse fuel pump and aome carb setups require air to flow in to a channel down and assist fuel flowing to jet and the"tunner culture" now nobody understands what the acceleration pump is for and how to set it. Etc ever heard the story about skin and cats. Spread knowledge and experience first and not just aay wrong. Jus sayin 🤷 been doing this a long time and I still like to exchange ideas intelligently, not throw my wrap sheet first.

  • @kritijonasguobys7246
    @kritijonasguobys7246 7 місяців тому +9

    15:44 where are u going with no chain?😂

    • @JeffArtz
      @JeffArtz 6 місяців тому +1

      Came here to say the same thing. ;-) Yet 5 seconds later he's driving out of the garage...

  • @deathreus
    @deathreus 9 місяців тому +7

    "Be careful disassembling a turbo" *whacks it with a hammer several times*

  • @throckmortonthebrave6634
    @throckmortonthebrave6634 8 місяців тому +5

    turbo oil drain has to be bellow turbo, if wastegate is always open then u arnt making enough boost etc etc

  • @00powersmoke
    @00powersmoke 9 місяців тому +4

    Boost gauge will tell you without the wastegate shut you have a exhaust restriction and more vacuum than stock

  • @danyf3116
    @danyf3116 9 місяців тому +4

    Who the hell has a parts counter in their shop? I'm just happy to have a beer fridge in mine!

  • @gorgewashington1216
    @gorgewashington1216 9 місяців тому +1

    drinling into paint putting screws without painting before rust is going to love this project

  • @chrislaw4607
    @chrislaw4607 8 місяців тому +5

    Unfortunately putting that turbo on that engine has done nothing for performance. You have just added weight, if it ever put the waste gate back on it so it could develop boost then it will go lean from the pressure blowing fuel out. Put the carb the other side of the turbo and put the waste gate back on then it will be interesting 👌🏼

  • @jonasreuterbring5193
    @jonasreuterbring5193 8 місяців тому +9

    Oilcooler? Wastegate Rod?

  • @cyprianmuller2199
    @cyprianmuller2199 8 місяців тому +273

    FAKE FAKE WASTE GATE IS NOT CLOSED TURBO CAN'T BE WORK THAT AND ANOTHER ONE THIS CARBURETOR CAN'T TAKE AIR PRESSURE BECAUSE IF YOU PUSH ANY AIR PRESSURE IN THIS CARBURATOR YOUR FUEL BACK TO TANK OR LEAK OUT XD

    • @d.g.2225
      @d.g.2225 8 місяців тому +7

      Guarda meglio scienziato

    • @PascalOutaouais
      @PascalOutaouais 8 місяців тому +5

      il a gagné du poids 😁

    • @Dakalberry
      @Dakalberry 8 місяців тому +11

      And it’s ten times bigger than that engine could spool

    • @brendajasmund3976
      @brendajasmund3976 8 місяців тому +2

      Sure buddy it doesn't do that😂😂

    • @fatimaaguilar4481
      @fatimaaguilar4481 8 місяців тому +8

      Bro lost his mind😅

  • @dzleeyt
    @dzleeyt 9 місяців тому +1

    one of my favorite things to do when i get any small motor, a lawnmower, or a go kart, is port and polish the heads.
    easy tiny torque gain, and everytime i sell it, extra money

  • @tomasboril4858
    @tomasboril4858 9 місяців тому +3

    Nice i wait for this video long time its useless but its freaking cooool

  • @jimlove4541
    @jimlove4541 5 місяців тому +6

    You know in order for this to actually work you would have to pressurize the entire carb along with having a fuel pump that can overcome the boost being developed..

  • @breebreeee9650
    @breebreeee9650 7 місяців тому +11

    key word "looks" more powerful

  • @timothywhieldon1971
    @timothywhieldon1971 9 місяців тому +46

    100% did not work. you can NOT run a carb on a turbo build without a fuel pressure regulation system

    • @alexledv8
      @alexledv8 7 місяців тому +3

      removed the wastgate it won't pressurize either

    • @deanvav7820
      @deanvav7820 6 місяців тому +1

      Wrong, pull through carb is very effective...not many gas carbs are blow through... you don't need a pressure regulator on gravity feed... electric pump is for oiling the turbo...

    • @timothywhieldon1971
      @timothywhieldon1971 6 місяців тому

      @@deanvav7820 NO. Not even close. you have no idea and the fact you said that clearly shows you are a troll.

  • @King_TuTT
    @King_TuTT 8 місяців тому +3

    too cool.. I would have added a fuel filter and oil filter. I think a stater would be a good idea to keep the oil pump battery charging, then you could add lights too

  • @moykky13
    @moykky13 9 місяців тому

    When you have ported and turbocharged (TD04L) 1216cc Suzuki 4cyl motorcycle with IC and separate carbs, normal use boost around 0.8bar (~300hp rear wheel). Carbs are vacuum (pressurized by boost of course) you can start take the pain of trying to to make it work properly every time and everywhere. I can take some turbo (just from shelf) and stick it to old VW Bora and tell it's ok.. It's really painfull to see if someone else makes this same. All work quality seems mint though.

  • @wesulius
    @wesulius 9 місяців тому +18

    Did you really leave the wastegate open, the turbo can't work

    • @BMW_MAN
      @BMW_MAN 9 місяців тому +5

      It couldn't have worked from the beginning

    • @rudynursalam7115
      @rudynursalam7115 8 місяців тому

      😂

  • @robfadelle5613
    @robfadelle5613 6 місяців тому +4

    Keeping in mind... the usual rideon mower engine is designed to operate at 3600RPM on a continual run basis. Forcing these engines above this for any length of time will throw a connecting rod through the side of the crankcase. This is why these engines have governors.

  • @toddolsen5421
    @toddolsen5421 9 місяців тому +5

    you need to weld the waste gate closed it wont be making any boost.

  • @MyCrazyGarage
    @MyCrazyGarage 8 місяців тому +13

    you forgot to close the wastegate....

  • @bttest1505
    @bttest1505 9 місяців тому +10

    It wont make any boost, turbo charger is for a 1400 cc engine and has no boost for a 200 cc engine

    • @jooch_exe
      @jooch_exe 9 місяців тому

      Depends. Diesel turbo's can be used for small gas engines, though admittedly it's better to get the right turbo.

    • @bttest1505
      @bttest1505 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jooch_exe Air mass flow rate doesn't match for this setup

  • @chrisriveras6107
    @chrisriveras6107 27 днів тому +3

    You know to burn more boost you need to drop heat range on plug and check crank to pistion weight balanceing

  • @anthonyduffy8062
    @anthonyduffy8062 3 місяці тому +2

    Well Done,,,, Seriously . You have a bright engineering future ahead. Understanding motors makes a better driver.

  • @davidswope2559
    @davidswope2559 2 місяці тому +7

    There can't be any boost carburetors run on vacuum so the only way to make a turbo 212 unless you have fuel injection is to carburetor through turbo

    • @alexmagee.3800
      @alexmagee.3800 2 місяці тому

      there are such things as blow through and suck through carburetors designed for turbocharged applications!

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 2 місяці тому

      Blow thru carbs ARE a thing, but they are modified from a regular version

    • @SajtosPogacsa-es3jv
      @SajtosPogacsa-es3jv 2 місяці тому

      it worked with the stock carb on my lada.

  • @mrtransistor6173
    @mrtransistor6173 2 місяці тому +9

    Wouldn't it make more sense to supercharge it? I can't imagine the turbo would be doing much.

    • @supernova6553
      @supernova6553 2 місяці тому

      I'd like to see a supercharger on this.

  • @henrisivusaari1846
    @henrisivusaari1846 9 місяців тому +10

    There are so many things wrong in this video... That turbo oil drain, how is that going to work? And that carb..? 🙈

    • @mazdamaniac4643
      @mazdamaniac4643 9 місяців тому

      Lol I know, the oil coming out of that turbo is going to get very hot very quickly and there's no way that hose is going to withstand that.
      The oil drain pipes from a turbocharger are *metal* for a very good reason!

  • @austinbarrick1128
    @austinbarrick1128 7 місяців тому +10

    Was waiting to see if the gate would get welded shut and how he would boost reference the fuel pressure to carb. But never happened! So this build was pointless.

  • @Finerfinish2021
    @Finerfinish2021 2 місяці тому +8

    No gaskets no waste gate...no boost...straight leaking

    • @flashmaker1858
      @flashmaker1858 2 місяці тому

      No fuel pump. 6psi would be great. But i love the way author going . just go and have fun, I'm usually working 2y before have any fun with anything im building,

    • @TheSmallEngineShed
      @TheSmallEngineShed 2 місяці тому +1

      @@flashmaker1858You don't need to use a fuel pump

  • @KitfoxPilot
    @KitfoxPilot 4 місяці тому +9

    How did you increase the fuel flow to accommodate for the extra hp with the increased airflow?

    • @TheGangster-uc4rk
      @TheGangster-uc4rk 4 місяці тому +5

      You'd need to put a bigger jet in the carburetor or drill out the hole in the stock one.

    • @Dejan_Beganovic
      @Dejan_Beganovic 4 місяці тому +1

      He literally upgraded the carb...

    • @TheGangster-uc4rk
      @TheGangster-uc4rk 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Dejan_Beganovic I was reading comments early on in the video but it did still answer the question…

  • @rodrigofilho1996
    @rodrigofilho1996 9 місяців тому +9

    How not to install a turbo:
    This guy actualy made the engine worse.

  • @liveweyeractual
    @liveweyeractual 8 місяців тому +18

    Change to a blow through carb and wire the wastegate closed. Then full send it. This was a waste of effort and fab skills. No sub for you.

  • @facskoj
    @facskoj 9 місяців тому +9

    Hey bro not working turbo , westgate is open

  • @the_1drummajor
    @the_1drummajor 4 місяці тому +1

    Everyone seems to be talking about the flaws of the turbocharger setup (which is valid); but they seem to have forgotten the electrical side. If you're going to have a constant load drawing on the battery (especially if it's an inductive load from a pump motor), you're going to need an alternator, otherwise your battery is going to end up flat, which will be a detriment to your turbocharger.

  • @Echocompany2-7
    @Echocompany2-7 7 місяців тому +5

    I recommend highly to build the motor out with better parts. You can find them online and for less than a grand you can turn one of these motors into a fire breathing dragon that revs to 10 k rpm and makes 3 to 4 times the output over stock

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 6 місяців тому

      I would say because it is already set in a slammed chassis, lawnmower 😂 and he has it setup for a complete engine swap in the length of a pit-stop. It has probably already had the Ole brig/strat gokart once through.

  • @HUMINT1
    @HUMINT1 3 місяці тому +2

    On top of this turbo doing nothing to the engine in terms of boost, the fuel fed issues and oil feed to the actual turbo not connected this engine seems to have been ran (hence the color changes to new exhaust system) before the “one pull” start we see.
    I’m assuming to work out all the bugs with the new carb & changes to the intake/exhaust system so it will start up with “one pull” for the video.

  • @robinpedler1239
    @robinpedler1239 9 місяців тому +4

    The carby has to fit before the turbo not between turbo and engine

  • @luimackjohnson302
    @luimackjohnson302 9 місяців тому +1

    Amazing! Thank you for sharing this video. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!

  • @rotax636nut5
    @rotax636nut5 8 місяців тому +5

    I'd have to see before and after dyno results for this before I believe one word of it!

  • @justinherdman87
    @justinherdman87 9 місяців тому +5

    youcan get 20hp with just internal mods.. crank, head,cam.. 212cc are big in usa now... but cost abit $

    • @Shaker626
      @Shaker626 9 місяців тому +1

      Yep, custom kart comps have had this category for some time.

  • @Billy-eq3fo
    @Billy-eq3fo 7 місяців тому +13

    why everyone hatin on him he just wanted to install a turbo

    • @macmclemore
      @macmclemore 5 місяців тому

      Because he did such a terrably poor job of it…...

  • @lewymartain8267
    @lewymartain8267 5 місяців тому +3

    Great job mate !!

    • @macmclemore
      @macmclemore 5 місяців тому

      Not really mate… (?)

  • @stefang1087
    @stefang1087 8 місяців тому +6

    The oil for the turbo needs a cooler and a filter

  • @KLove89
    @KLove89 5 місяців тому +5

    He didn't lie though. He did say now the engine looks more powerful.

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 4 місяці тому +1

      @KLove89 there's a whole wall at parts store of double side tape dodadds, #1. sticker makes it quicker. Lol I like to watch his videos for idea sparks. Well said anyhow.

  • @paolocane8875
    @paolocane8875 8 місяців тому +8

    All this job, for to go from 6.6 to 10 hp😅 i think the carburettor and better exhaust do the same things 😂 no turbo.

  • @jlrebor2626
    @jlrebor2626 9 місяців тому +7

    no intercooler, oil tank higher than the drain, the exhaust could be almost straight instead of near 3 90º turns(more weight on top of flow restriction), having the pump on a switch instead of in the same as when the engine is on its kinda asking for you to forget it one day and for it to starve(cant believe i said this bfr the end of the video and this man had the engine on with no oil going to the turbo... and had the balls to do a close up of flipping the switch like its what makes the turbo work at all), no pressure regulation, not that it needs any bsc by you taking it of you made it so it wants to stay open and make no boost whatsoever(i could be wrong about this as how the exhaust is made its what tells me if its gona stay open or closed, but as its keeps moving when he test it at the end im more inclined to it having no pressure at all), didnt have a battery bfr so even more weight, sounds more aggressive bcs its like it doesnt have an exhaust now, and probably this turbo could be a tad too big for this engine as it surely comes from a 4 cylinder(could work but not betting on it) damn

    • @lamdog1490
      @lamdog1490 9 місяців тому +1

      The video is complete BS it aint that deep dude. Also you don't need an intercooler. My ute is TD and it wasn't built with an intercooler. I am gonna install an aftermarket one so I can safely run more boost, along with some other mods, but it's not necessary.

    • @jlrebor2626
      @jlrebor2626 9 місяців тому

      @@lamdog1490 ofc its not necesary, same as this turbo setup, but if you are that deep in to it might as well do it good, at the end of the day the turbo makes power by pushing more air in to the engine, if the air is less dense there is less oxigen so in a really bad case (like this one) you are gona end up with less power, there is a reason why we put intercoolers

  • @ИванМеталл-й1й
    @ИванМеталл-й1й 8 місяців тому +3

    Карбюратор необходимо устанавливать перед турбокомпрессором для увеличения мощности, но в целом нагнетатель лучше работает с инжектором.

  • @ManningSc
    @ManningSc 6 місяців тому +1

    So as to the fuel issues and waste gate question. The wast gate can be controlled from a port directly tapped from the boost side of turbo, no need to run an extra piece of tubing. However the waste gate is some what pointless as I dont believe There will be to much boost, and even if it was to stay open air moving at velocity dosent change like direction easily. Or a bolt and two washers. Fuel issue, slightly more complex but not difficult. The same pressure tap which controls the bypass can be connected with a "t" to the vent line from the fuel tank bringing both areas under the same pressure without a differential the fuel will still flow via gravity to carb and then the airflow across the jet can do its job. However if cap loosens or pressure is lost it can create lean condition. Better solution is a fuel pump and reg to either remove the boost differential from fuel line or possibly ad a few extra psi to the supply if and when boost is increased. Lay off the guy, I build this stuff as well and I appreciate the video, I was originally going to just post saying he should note those issues. As well I would have used an oil tap at the top of the head, and a tap at the engine drain port as a return. The turbo can be clocked differtly with the locking type cartridge, and I am thinking of using an old heater core across the discharge area of the engine fan, as intercooler. Good video and I do like the gas pedal design

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 6 місяців тому

      I am sad to see the replies to this video. To offten young people have ideas or dreams but no one to help them. So they give up on even trying. At least they could watch a video and see something getting done and they can hopefully learn the rest along the way. The world is full of keyboard gangsters, and certainly not enough men who can use their hands and actually do. Good luck yall

    • @ManningSc
      @ManningSc 6 місяців тому

      The only question I want to know is the part number of that rubber hose with built-in reduction and where to get it for a decent price.

  • @KaSzel7A
    @KaSzel7A 5 місяців тому +3

    if you put in this battery i think it's a good idea to put starter in this engine (you made video abou this starter) and make electric ignition in this engine i think it's a good idea :)

  • @Cesar-ik3wq
    @Cesar-ik3wq 8 місяців тому +9

    14:32 wastegate disconected and open, thats is making no power

    • @dooleys1972
      @dooleys1972 8 місяців тому +4

      and the carb float chamber isn't pressurized with boost, on boost it would run lean / blow fuel back in to float chamber, and needs fuel pump higher than boost pressure, that's prob why wastegate disconected, so that it actually runs. i call bullshit on this video, sorry 😀😀😀😀
      easiest way - put carb on turbo INLET and outlet straight to engine - then carb can run at atmos pressure 😀😀😀😀

  • @bryanmcleod9346
    @bryanmcleod9346 7 місяців тому +5

    Guy could probaly sell some of his grinder disc and wire brush collection and buy a HF plasma cutter!
    I know his wife and neighbors would appreciate it!!

  • @VanniBurani
    @VanniBurani 9 місяців тому +2

    L'aumento di potenza è legato al carburatore, la turbina non va in pressione perchè se così fosse la benzina uscirebbe dai fori di compensazione presenti ei lati della vaschetta del carburatore.