3 reasons why this turbo kit doesn't work. 1. WG valve flap is open so it does not generate any boost. (You can see how loose it is at 16:08) 2. blow through system without fuel pressure compensation will work for a few seconds until the boost returns all the fuel from the carburetor to the tank. 3. oil drain from the turbo. Do you really expect that some magical force will push the turbo oil uphill into the tank? The fact that there is no smoke in the video is probably the result of the fact that the fuel pump that is supposed to pump the oil probably cannot pump the oil to the turbine. Do not get me wrong. It's not that I'm criticizing your work. But when you do something, try not to make basic mistakes that would be noticed by someone who knows something about it. Your turbo kit may work, but it requires some work. My suggested solutions to the problem 1. Weld the WG (you have no control over the boost) or reinstall the actuator 2. There are two options. Fuel pump (min. 1bar/15psi) with a fuel pressure regulator or a simpler method like in RC models, connect the boost from the intake to the fuel tank. Fuel pressure must increase with boost. 3. There are also two options. Second return pump or install the receiver below the turbocharger. And make sure oil is flowing to turbocharger. If there is a problem with this, try using oil with a lower viscosity, e.g. 0w8 or 2t or mix diesel fuel + oil.
Only problem here: it simply won't make extra HP with that wastegate arm flopping around with no actuator. It's going to be both an exhaust and intake restriction.
Calling BS on this video, The wastegate is hanging open so its making absolutely no boost, and you have a blow-through setup which will not work for gravity fed fueling. You need a pull through set up, but then again, puting a turbo designed for a 1-2 litre engine on a 200cc engine wont yield results anyway, as it cannot put out enough exhaust volume to get the turbine spinning fast enough to make any real boost.
Dont forget the turbo oil system lol, Surprised it isn't smoking like a train with the oil drain feeding upwards. For sure this thing makes less power now
Interesting…….would love to watch your video showing your fabrication skills…..so if you would kindly direct us to where you’ve posted your handiwork we will indeed watch them.
@@beboboymann3823 its not about fab skills this isnt even that impressive its just scap metal welded together with a cheap mig. I know becuase I do the same thing lol. And you can clearly dee in the video the engine runs poorly
Except if you have ever built anything with a turbo you know that air moving in a direction doesn't make sharp angles unless forced to because of excessive pressure from the air volume not being able to clear the turbine fast enough and then it will take the path of least resistance. Personally I have put bolts and washers through the bypass. Redneck rocket
@rgreerjr the exhaust gas is moving towards the exducer at the speed of Poof, why would it all collectively decide to take a random direction that requires quite a bit of force. Put hands front leaf blower, why does air not go around?? I am trying to spread knowledge not arguments. Civil discourse is how we save the world not one yelling at another who's also yelling.
I'm trying to work out why you removed the wastegate actuator. There's nothing regulating the amount of boost from the turbo any more. It works both ways, maintaining backpressure in the turbo to spool it up, then reliving excess boost to stop you nuking the engine. In the end, you've added a bigger carburettor and a fan in the exhaust that's not doing anything meaningful but generate noise to 'sound more powerful'.
@@djilu9916 Yes it can, it's got nothing to do with how fast it spins or what engine it was from, it's how much air that turbocharger is flowing at any given moment and what it's doing to the fuel-air mixture going into the engine. Too rich and it'll bog down and stall, but too lean for even a moment..it'll detonate. Ka-boom. Bye-bye piston, conrod and crankcase. Look at the video again and note carefully that he's driving it around with the turbocharger wastegate actuator completely removed. You can see the wastegate control arm bouncing around on the manifold. This means that turbocharger has absolutely no way of regulating itself because of that...which means that the fuel-air mixture is probably all over the place already.
@@villekinnunen6357 You're entitled to your assumption. It's not about boost, it's about flow. Even with that turbo being way too big for that engine (if it was hooked up correctly) it flows far too much air through that carburettor for the fuel mixture to ever be controlled accurately. With a turbocharger fitted onto an engine that was never designed for it, things go wrong very quickly. A suddenly lean mixture can, will and does detonate engines...you've likely seen it happen on many of the exploding engines on dyno's vids. Lean mixtures are the bane of turbo's, because an engine that begins to run lean starts to generate excessive exhaust gas pressure, which spins the turbo up more for a moment, adding to the problem more quickly than someone can react to. Instinct says to dump the throttle, 9 times out of 10, that's when the engine detonates because the fuel is snapped shut and goes extremely lean. Just one explosion event happening in the cylinder within a microsecond at high rpm or load is all it takes...bye bye piston and conrod. This is why turbocharged engines on carbs typically run on the rich side of fuelling, so they have as much tolerance for some uneven fuel mixture as possible, to reduce that risk. It's difficult and complicated to make a carburettor run rich, against boost, when the throttle is snapped shut.
Nooo, you must put the carburetor BEFORE the turbo, otherwise the pressure from the turbo will push the fuel back from the carburetor, hence make less power. so the "extra power" you feel is just because you've upgraded the carburetor
Heck, it sounds cool. With the turbo whine noise. This is still way better than individuals who put a giant wing on the back of their front wheel drive car. This is just cool to say, "my mowers' got a turbo on it". I wish I could say that.
I think all the power increase you got was just from the new carb, the waste gate is open so you're getting no boost, would be a good thing to add a boost gauge and see how much you're actually getting.
Problems: 1. pressurized carb - pushes fuel back to the tank on boost 2. wastegate - should be closed or set to open at specific pressure 3. turbo size - way too big for 200cc engine It revs higher because of bigger carb, not by the boost. I'd like to see dyno session before and after
🤔 pretty sure 1. Carb has to go in front of turbo not after it. 2. Turbo is too big for that motor. 3. Why is the waste-gate disconnected? 4. Why the extra long exhaust header? Seems like shortest path would be best for such a smaller single cylinder motor. 🤷🏻♂️ but hey, it’s a cool novelty item. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 respect the effort/build.
Carb is mounted wromg, you have to mount it at the turbo inlet. Otherwise the turbo pressure will push the gasoline back through the jet down in the carb sump and whenever there is a small presure in the system it will restrict engine power and rpm…. Mount it correctly and ill promise there will be better difference ❤
Nice work ! there are some things that are not correct but you can fix them and have great results ! 1) Waste-gate is not closed so -> NO BOOST & 2) if even there was boost, carburator use ventury to "suck" gas with very little vaccum... is you have boost, it will push the gas, not suck it... What to do: 1) Close the waste-gate ! & 2) the carburator must be placed befor the turbo (suction side)
if the wastegate was shut it would still run like ass because any time it builds a fraction of boost it'd force the fuel right back into the jets, you need to have fuel pressure that exceeds boost pressure in a blow thru setup. you can place the carb on the other side of the turbo for what's called draw thru to circumvent this. you also need a way to retard the timing per pound of boost to keep it out of detonation and make it survive. from there you just have to worry about keeping it cool.
Can’t put boost thru a carb that way. When it turns from vacuum to boost it will force fuel the wrong direction thru the jets and blow fuel out the float bowl vent pipes. You have to add a small vaccuum hose and direct pressure to the float bowl vents to equalize pressure inside the float bowl when under boost. Besides that it can be made to work!
Sorry got to call Bull shit on this! having done this for a living, built many turbo motorcycles and car engines, this video looks great if you have no ideal whats going on! here are the issues, 1: you cant gravity feed fuel to a blow through carby set up! fuel pressure needs to be higher than boost pressure or the fuel wont flow into the foat bowl. 2: some sort of fuel enrichment needs to happen when on boost, additional boost pressure needs to be sent to fuel bowl under boost as well as aditional fuel pressure. 3: with out ignition retard on boost or very high octane fuel, this engine will detonate it self to death 4: this engines, internal splash oil lubrication wont work well under the additional load of turbo charging. 5: to make more engine power the engine must see boost ! hard for a turbo to do that when you didnt fit the waste gate ! i am gueesing the engine would not run due the the mentioned carby issues so to make this turbo engine run, he had to remove the waste gate controller! that means no boost. no boost no additinal hp made, so a total waste of time! this video is nothing more than a deception , the guy making this video has no idea!
I noticed the wastegate disconnected, also noticed the lack of a fuel pump. If he fixed these issues he might run 0.3 bar not more and make about 10 hp and the carburetor tuning would be very difficult to say the least, better run fuel injection.
Not a bad job but it looks like the only power gain was from the slide carburetor and governor bypass...both allowing it to rev past 3-3600 rpms. It certainly didn't sound like it was making boost.
get a double-throw switch. run ground to the center of the switch. run one side of the switch to the engine kill wire, and run the other side of the switch to the pump ground. run A FUSED WIRE from battery positive to the pump positive. switch on = oilpump on and "run" switch off = oilpump off and engine-kill. you wont be able to run the engine without the oil pump switched on!
This engine isn't making any boost. If it was making boost it would rev up and then bog out when it starts to make boost. To do this properly I'd weld shut the waste gate (because you don't need it) and equally pressurise the carburettor and fuel tank. I know this works because I've done it myself on my channel.
Nice build but the turbo system didn't do anything at all.😅 First of all it doesn't make boost because the wastegate is always open, second if it made boost it wouldn't work just like that. The turbo oil drain has to be higher than the tank. The only thing that made the engine a little more aggressive is that PWK.😅😅
11:04 okay i see what people are bitching about now. He obviously assumed the standard wastegate would build too much psi and blow the motor apart. So he either needs to install some sort of electronic boost controller or a lower pressure waste gate. Unfortunately yes this engine wont make any boost and youll actually have put a big drain on it by restricting air intake and exhaust with longer tubes and a turbine
Funny video, it must have been really good, especially with the west gate open, without a carburetor doser and with the turbo oil drain higher than the turbo!😂😂😂
@geop6132 just because it has a turbo doesn't mean it id's under boost @all times. He's using a fuel pedal to accelerate. So if the tank wasn't vented every time you come off throttle fuel returns to bowl or a pulse fuel pump and aome carb setups require air to flow in to a channel down and assist fuel flowing to jet and the"tunner culture" now nobody understands what the acceleration pump is for and how to set it. Etc ever heard the story about skin and cats. Spread knowledge and experience first and not just aay wrong. Jus sayin 🤷 been doing this a long time and I still like to exchange ideas intelligently, not throw my wrap sheet first.
Der Vergaser gehört dahin, wo du den Luftfilter montiert hast! Wenn du dann noch das Wastegateventil wieder anbaust und den Vergaser anständig abstimmst, könnte das sogar funktionieren. So wie du es gebaut hast, setzt du nur den Vergaser unter Druck, der Kraftstoff wird durch die Düsen in die Schwimmerkammer zurück gepresst und dein Motor geht aus! An sich sehr schöne Arbeit, aber leider technisch fehlerhaft.
@@Justin-z1v das stimmt nicht, der vergaser muss vor dem Turbolader liegen. Sobald er danach liegt, funktioniert er schlichtweg nicht mehr. Dann müsste eine druckresistente Einspritzung verbaut werden. Warum sollte denn im Turbo etwas explodieren? Es entstehen keine Funken oder ähnliches. Das ist ein mechanisches ölgeschmiertes Bauteil wie auch die Einlassventile beim Viertakter.
nice video and editing. I enjoyed the process. figure out a way to control that wastegate. stick a super low PSI spring in there - maybe 3-4 psi. then use a manual controller to adjust up from there just to start. Also build yourself a stack with a wideband bung in there to monitor the engines AFR. adjust the carb to keep it around 10.5 - 11.5 in boost and you'll easily triple your horsepower. anyone commenting saying the turbo is too big for the project really just doesnt understand how it all works. you're not spooling it because the wastegate is open. not because its "too big".
@@Guds777 Basic physics dude. Suck-through carburettors need a partial vacuum on the intake side of it to work correctly. Applying positive boost pressure from a turbocharger blows air backwards through the carburettor's internals and completely messes up the fuel/air mixture being delivered out of the carburettor, usually leans it right out. It can also cause the petrol in the float bowl to blown right out of it's vent and then force air into the fuel tank when the float drops, instantly starving the carburettor of fuel. This is why you have either sealed blow-through carbs with fuel pumps feeding them, or you have a suck-through mounted in front of the turbo inlet...or fuel injection.
@@Guds777 Sorry no not that clever, I am only a time served mechanic of 50 years and have worked on Mitsubishi Starion full blown rally cars, super charged 6.5 Lt Shelby Cobras, Chrysler Tigers and full blown Mini Coopers (1960s) to name but a few so I shouldn't comment on things I know nothing about, sorry 😔 ,
Agreed, need to plug the vents and use a fuel press. regulator with a boost reference to match fuel & boost press. equally to have any luck. E.F.I. is the way to go imo.
@@paradiselost9946P,S, By the way Mr."carburetor whiz" there is no "pitot tube" in a carburetor. They are on the outside of airplanes or wherever there is a need to measure the velocity of fluids or gases. You sound like you have lost something besides paradise.
one of my favorite things to do when i get any small motor, a lawnmower, or a go kart, is port and polish the heads. easy tiny torque gain, and everytime i sell it, extra money
@KLove89 there's a whole wall at parts store of double side tape dodadds, #1. sticker makes it quicker. Lol I like to watch his videos for idea sparks. Well said anyhow.
too cool.. I would have added a fuel filter and oil filter. I think a stater would be a good idea to keep the oil pump battery charging, then you could add lights too
No fuel pump. 6psi would be great. But i love the way author going . just go and have fun, I'm usually working 2y before have any fun with anything im building,
You know in order for this to actually work you would have to pressurize the entire carb along with having a fuel pump that can overcome the boost being developed..
There is so much wrong with the setup, that carby is not setup up for blow thru turbo operation also will need a fuel pump. Will also need a scavenger pump to return oil from the turbo to the tank. Waste gate not even hooked up so was not making boost. It annoyed me that I watched it till the end🤦
Yep, or else your fueling is all over the place or if it's really bad you can actually blow the fuel out of the carb and back into the tank when it comes on boost. That leans out your mixture and it'll detonate. I've got a feeling that's why this guy has removed the wastegate actuator, so there's no boost at all anymore. You can get a sealed blow-through carburettor, but you generally need to pump fuel into it for it to work...and it's a lot of tuning work to get it to run reasonably well.
Love the build, but I don't think the exhaust flow will be enough to do much with that size turbo. Which is good since if it did, that engine would definitely toss a cranck 😅😊
The tractor looks awesome, and as one other commenter said, your fab skillz are 10/10. But yes, a mechanical fuel fump with a greater psi rating (by at least what the engine needs to run N/A) would make it so that turbno (yes, i spelled it that way on purpose) would actually add boost. It also needs a small intercooler. Think stock Suburu WRX/Suzuki Alto Works style, or even a larger sized heater core if that youtubesteak skrill is running thin.
if you put in this battery i think it's a good idea to put starter in this engine (you made video abou this starter) and make electric ignition in this engine i think it's a good idea :)
You need to re-jet your carb. My son and I and our friends build racing mini bikes with 212cc motors all the time. If your carb came with a jet kit make sure that you check to see which one came pre-installed on the carb because we have to change the jets to like a 130 sometimes a bit lower but you will get the most horsepower out of it and it will run smoothly.
Unfortunately putting that turbo on that engine has done nothing for performance. You have just added weight, if it ever put the waste gate back on it so it could develop boost then it will go lean from the pressure blowing fuel out. Put the carb the other side of the turbo and put the waste gate back on then it will be interesting 👌🏼
Guy could probaly sell some of his grinder disc and wire brush collection and buy a HF plasma cutter! I know his wife and neighbors would appreciate it!!
Turbo is too large. Even if it was smaller, here are things he got wrong. 1-Wastegate open. (There cannot be more air-fuel mixture in engine during power stroke. Which is the whole point of turbo) 2-Too little oil in the system (oil went to hoses and did not add more.) 3-Oil volume for turbo is too low, and does not have filter. And due to low volume of oil, it will get too hot. 4-carburator needs to be before turbo intake 5-engine is aircooled, and it probably melts after short period (assuming all the problems regarding turbo are fixed) Nice idea. And nicely fabricated parts using simple tools. Unfortunately it was more like 5-minute crafts. Pointless hand waving, without intention to success.
Was waiting to see if the gate would get welded shut and how he would boost reference the fuel pressure to carb. But never happened! So this build was pointless.
Cool video, nice work on making the build look good, as well as shooting and editing. Was hoping to see how much difference it made in the end but it felt anticlimactic. Keep going brother, doing great things
@@zakkabbani3035 Turbo too big (will never make boost), did you notice the waste gate lever not connected to anything? Yeah, you can fake stuff for the uneducated. I will remember not to click on any other vid by this guy.
Lol I know, the oil coming out of that turbo is going to get very hot very quickly and there's no way that hose is going to withstand that. The oil drain pipes from a turbocharger are *metal* for a very good reason!
Wrong, pull through carb is very effective...not many gas carbs are blow through... you don't need a pressure regulator on gravity feed... electric pump is for oiling the turbo...
3 reasons why this turbo kit doesn't work.
1. WG valve flap is open so it does not generate any boost. (You can see how loose it is at 16:08)
2. blow through system without fuel pressure compensation will work for a few seconds until the boost returns all the fuel from the carburetor to the tank.
3. oil drain from the turbo. Do you really expect that some magical force will push the turbo oil uphill into the tank? The fact that there is no smoke in the video is probably the result of the fact that the fuel pump that is supposed to pump the oil probably cannot pump the oil to the turbine.
Do not get me wrong. It's not that I'm criticizing your work. But when you do something, try not to make basic mistakes that would be noticed by someone who knows something about it. Your turbo kit may work, but it requires some work.
My suggested solutions to the problem
1. Weld the WG (you have no control over the boost) or reinstall the actuator
2. There are two options. Fuel pump (min. 1bar/15psi) with a fuel pressure regulator or a simpler method like in RC models, connect the boost from the intake to the fuel tank. Fuel pressure must increase with boost.
3. There are also two options. Second return pump or install the receiver below the turbocharger. And make sure oil is flowing to turbocharger. If there is a problem with this, try using oil with a lower viscosity, e.g. 0w8 or 2t or mix diesel fuel + oil.
Another solution could also be to place the turbo after the carburetor, so it doesn't pressurize the fuel
@@nano-kevinlockhart2295
yes, but then the supercharger should be an ihi turbo with a carbon seal
*His angle grinder work is top notch, brackets look plasma-cut.*
The magical force is the pump, creating pressure in bearing journal. Oil in oil out.
Only problem here: it simply won't make extra HP with that wastegate arm flopping around with no actuator. It's going to be both an exhaust and intake restriction.
Calling BS on this video, The wastegate is hanging open so its making absolutely no boost, and you have a blow-through setup which will not work for gravity fed fueling. You need a pull through set up, but then again, puting a turbo designed for a 1-2 litre engine on a 200cc engine wont yield results anyway, as it cannot put out enough exhaust volume to get the turbine spinning fast enough to make any real boost.
Any amount of boost (even 2 to 3 psi) will be very noticeable, if the air/fuel ratio is correct.
Dont forget the turbo oil system lol, Surprised it isn't smoking like a train with the oil drain feeding upwards. For sure this thing makes less power now
@@CC3series it literally ran like shit. Ivd seen his other videos and now it dies when he gets off
Interesting…….would love to watch your video showing your fabrication skills…..so if you would kindly direct us to where you’ve posted your handiwork we will indeed watch them.
@@beboboymann3823 its not about fab skills this isnt even that impressive its just scap metal welded together with a cheap mig. I know becuase I do the same thing lol. And you can clearly dee in the video the engine runs poorly
lets put a turbo on a 200cc engine but take off the wastegate and leave it open so that all the exhaust bypasses the turbine and we create no boost.
Except if you have ever built anything with a turbo you know that air moving in a direction doesn't make sharp angles unless forced to because of excessive pressure from the air volume not being able to clear the turbine fast enough and then it will take the path of least resistance. Personally I have put bolts and washers through the bypass. Redneck rocket
@rgreerjr the exhaust gas is moving towards the exducer at the speed of Poof, why would it all collectively decide to take a random direction that requires quite a bit of force. Put hands front leaf blower, why does air not go around?? I am trying to spread knowledge not arguments. Civil discourse is how we save the world not one yelling at another who's also yelling.
Ah we forgot laws of physics where the easiest path taken isn’t the sharp turn to open air that is a vastly different temperature
I'm trying to work out why you removed the wastegate actuator. There's nothing regulating the amount of boost from the turbo any more.
It works both ways, maintaining backpressure in the turbo to spool it up, then reliving excess boost to stop you nuking the engine.
In the end, you've added a bigger carburettor and a fan in the exhaust that's not doing anything meaningful but generate noise to 'sound more powerful'.
a turbo from a 1.6l engine wont nuke a 200cc engine, it barely spins enough lol
@@djilu9916 Yes it can, it's got nothing to do with how fast it spins or what engine it was from, it's how much air that turbocharger is flowing at any given moment and what it's doing to the fuel-air mixture going into the engine.
Too rich and it'll bog down and stall, but too lean for even a moment..it'll detonate. Ka-boom. Bye-bye piston, conrod and crankcase.
Look at the video again and note carefully that he's driving it around with the turbocharger wastegate actuator completely removed. You can see the wastegate control arm bouncing around on the manifold. This means that turbocharger has absolutely no way of regulating itself because of that...which means that the fuel-air mixture is probably all over the place already.
@@mazdamaniac4643naah.. it wont make any boost, turbo is way too big to spool up. and it's not explode right away when it goes lean(withing seconds).
@@villekinnunen6357 You're entitled to your assumption.
It's not about boost, it's about flow. Even with that turbo being way too big for that engine (if it was hooked up correctly) it flows far too much air through that carburettor for the fuel mixture to ever be controlled accurately.
With a turbocharger fitted onto an engine that was never designed for it, things go wrong very quickly. A suddenly lean mixture can, will and does detonate engines...you've likely seen it happen on many of the exploding engines on dyno's vids.
Lean mixtures are the bane of turbo's, because an engine that begins to run lean starts to generate excessive exhaust gas pressure, which spins the turbo up more for a moment, adding to the problem more quickly than someone can react to. Instinct says to dump the throttle, 9 times out of 10, that's when the engine detonates because the fuel is snapped shut and goes extremely lean. Just one explosion event happening in the cylinder within a microsecond at high rpm or load is all it takes...bye bye piston and conrod.
This is why turbocharged engines on carbs typically run on the rich side of fuelling, so they have as much tolerance for some uneven fuel mixture as possible, to reduce that risk. It's difficult and complicated to make a carburettor run rich, against boost, when the throttle is snapped shut.
он просто прикрутил турбину как декорацию, она в работе мотора не принимает участия
Nooo, you must put the carburetor BEFORE the turbo, otherwise the pressure from the turbo will push the fuel back from the carburetor, hence make less power. so the "extra power" you feel is just because you've upgraded the carburetor
The improvement here is from the carb and removal of the governor control, not the turbo.
Heck, it sounds cool. With the turbo whine noise. This is still way better than individuals who put a giant wing on the back of their front wheel drive car. This is just cool to say, "my mowers' got a turbo on it". I wish I could say that.
I think all the power increase you got was just from the new carb, the waste gate is open so you're getting no boost, would be a good thing to add a boost gauge and see how much you're actually getting.
Problems:
1. pressurized carb - pushes fuel back to the tank on boost
2. wastegate - should be closed or set to open at specific pressure
3. turbo size - way too big for 200cc engine
It revs higher because of bigger carb, not by the boost.
I'd like to see dyno session before and after
no turbo boost being made. if it was then the unpressurized fuel would back feed and the engine would stall
🤔 pretty sure
1. Carb has to go in front of turbo not after it.
2. Turbo is too big for that motor.
3. Why is the waste-gate disconnected? 4. Why the extra long exhaust header? Seems like shortest path would be best for such a smaller single cylinder motor.
🤷🏻♂️ but hey, it’s a cool novelty item. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 respect the effort/build.
why draw thru in this case?
Wastegate actuator left the chat. Still working as N/A 🤷🏻♂️
Carb is mounted wromg, you have to mount it at the turbo inlet. Otherwise the turbo pressure will push the gasoline back through the jet down in the carb sump and whenever there is a small presure in the system it will restrict engine power and rpm…. Mount it correctly and ill promise there will be better difference ❤
you clearly dont understand a bogans method of thinking haha
You can play with the wastegate for more boost and power. (Always checking the boost pressure). Nice job!!!
Nice work ! there are some things that are not correct but you can fix them and have great results !
1) Waste-gate is not closed so -> NO BOOST & 2) if even there was boost, carburator use ventury to "suck" gas with very little vaccum... is you have boost, it will push the gas, not suck it...
What to do: 1) Close the waste-gate ! & 2) the carburator must be placed befor the turbo (suction side)
the wastegate valve without the wg actuator it's always in open bro :D so the turbo not boosting...
if the wastegate was shut it would still run like ass because any time it builds a fraction of boost it'd force the fuel right back into the jets, you need to have fuel pressure that exceeds boost pressure in a blow thru setup. you can place the carb on the other side of the turbo for what's called draw thru to circumvent this. you also need a way to retard the timing per pound of boost to keep it out of detonation and make it survive.
from there you just have to worry about keeping it cool.
Can’t put boost thru a carb that way. When it turns from vacuum to boost it will force fuel the wrong direction thru the jets and blow fuel out the float bowl vent pipes. You have to add a small vaccuum hose and direct pressure to the float bowl vents to equalize pressure inside the float bowl when under boost. Besides that it can be made to work!
it would help to even make boost the waste gate was just flopping
просто нужно вокруг карбюратора камеру сделать. давление должно быть одинаковым и на впуске и вокруг карбюратора. ну и жиклер увеличить и иглу поднять
“ Now , the engine looks like much more powerful “ :)
Sorry got to call Bull shit on this! having done this for a living, built many turbo motorcycles and car engines, this video looks great if you have no ideal whats going on!
here are the issues,
1: you cant gravity feed fuel to a blow through carby set up! fuel pressure needs to be higher than boost pressure or the fuel wont flow into the foat bowl.
2: some sort of fuel enrichment needs to happen when on boost, additional boost pressure needs to be sent to fuel bowl under boost as well as aditional fuel pressure.
3: with out ignition retard on boost or very high octane fuel, this engine will detonate it self to death
4: this engines, internal splash oil lubrication wont work well under the additional load of turbo charging.
5: to make more engine power the engine must see boost ! hard for a turbo to do that when you didnt fit the waste gate ! i am gueesing the engine would not run due the the mentioned carby issues
so to make this turbo engine run, he had to remove the waste gate controller! that means no boost.
no boost no additinal hp made, so a total waste of time!
this video is nothing more than a deception , the guy making this video has no idea!
Totally agree
came here to say that
I noticed the wastegate disconnected, also noticed the lack of a fuel pump. If he fixed these issues he might run 0.3 bar not more and make about 10 hp and the carburetor tuning would be very difficult to say the least, better run fuel injection.
@@serenerebel1983 same
Not a bad job but it looks like the only power gain was from the slide carburetor and governor bypass...both allowing it to rev past 3-3600 rpms. It certainly didn't sound like it was making boost.
sounds like it makes no boost because of this reason lol 10:04
Your coolest projects really look like a cool update to that racing tractor. always fun to watch your videos. enjoy your weekend. 😘🤠❄️🇳🇱
get a double-throw switch. run ground to the center of the switch. run one side of the switch to the engine kill wire, and run the other side of the switch to the pump ground. run A FUSED WIRE from battery positive to the pump positive.
switch on = oilpump on and "run"
switch off = oilpump off and engine-kill.
you wont be able to run the engine without the oil pump switched on!
This engine isn't making any boost. If it was making boost it would rev up and then bog out when it starts to make boost. To do this properly I'd weld shut the waste gate (because you don't need it) and equally pressurise the carburettor and fuel tank. I know this works because I've done it myself on my channel.
Who the hell has a parts counter in their shop? I'm just happy to have a beer fridge in mine!
Nice build but the turbo system didn't do anything at all.😅 First of all it doesn't make boost because the wastegate is always open, second if it made boost it wouldn't work just like that. The turbo oil drain has to be higher than the tank. The only thing that made the engine a little more aggressive is that PWK.😅😅
I think we all want to see more about your project bmw pickup
even though the carb is the only real power gain its still looks cool just need to do some modifcations and revision
11:04 okay i see what people are bitching about now. He obviously assumed the standard wastegate would build too much psi and blow the motor apart. So he either needs to install some sort of electronic boost controller or a lower pressure waste gate. Unfortunately yes this engine wont make any boost and youll actually have put a big drain on it by restricting air intake and exhaust with longer tubes and a turbine
I doubt that tiny engine wuld build much boost anyway, let alone enough to blow the motor up.
drinling into paint putting screws without painting before rust is going to love this project
funny idea, but here it's only for decoration
Blow through carb setup with no fuel pump, carb vent lines open, turbo waste gate open. Fabricating skills 10/10. Engine, turbo and carb knowledge 0/10
Yeah this video is mainly about the views and money, teaching viewers anything valuable isn't what they do.
Funny video, it must have been really good, especially with the west gate open, without a carburetor doser and with the turbo oil drain higher than the turbo!😂😂😂
@geop6132 just because it has a turbo doesn't mean it id's under boost @all times. He's using a fuel pedal to accelerate. So if the tank wasn't vented every time you come off throttle fuel returns to bowl or a pulse fuel pump and aome carb setups require air to flow in to a channel down and assist fuel flowing to jet and the"tunner culture" now nobody understands what the acceleration pump is for and how to set it. Etc ever heard the story about skin and cats. Spread knowledge and experience first and not just aay wrong. Jus sayin 🤷 been doing this a long time and I still like to exchange ideas intelligently, not throw my wrap sheet first.
Der Vergaser gehört dahin, wo du den Luftfilter montiert hast! Wenn du dann noch das Wastegateventil wieder anbaust und den Vergaser anständig abstimmst, könnte das sogar funktionieren. So wie du es gebaut hast, setzt du nur den Vergaser unter Druck, der Kraftstoff wird durch die Düsen in die Schwimmerkammer zurück gepresst und dein Motor geht aus! An sich sehr schöne Arbeit, aber leider technisch fehlerhaft.
Glaube der Vergaser muss erst nach dem Turbolader sein weil es sonnst in den Turbo zu Explosionen kommen kann. Sowie in den Video gezeigt
@@Justin-z1v das stimmt nicht, der vergaser muss vor dem Turbolader liegen. Sobald er danach liegt, funktioniert er schlichtweg nicht mehr. Dann müsste eine druckresistente Einspritzung verbaut werden.
Warum sollte denn im Turbo etwas explodieren? Es entstehen keine Funken oder ähnliches. Das ist ein mechanisches ölgeschmiertes Bauteil wie auch die Einlassventile beim Viertakter.
@@Bombs_Welt du hast vollkommen recht!! so wie er es gebaut hat kann es nicht funktionieren
15:44 where are u going with no chain?😂
Came here to say the same thing. ;-) Yet 5 seconds later he's driving out of the garage...
Yeah....we don't need no stinkin' waste gate! LOL😂🤣😆🤣
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"Be careful disassembling a turbo" *whacks it with a hammer several times*
Take off the carb and mount it on the turbo inlet and remove the Wastegate
this guy bothers me
I'd have to see before and after dyno results for this before I believe one word of it!
you forgot to close the wastegate....
nice video and editing. I enjoyed the process. figure out a way to control that wastegate. stick a super low PSI spring in there - maybe 3-4 psi. then use a manual controller to adjust up from there just to start. Also build yourself a stack with a wideband bung in there to monitor the engines AFR. adjust the carb to keep it around 10.5 - 11.5 in boost and you'll easily triple your horsepower. anyone commenting saying the turbo is too big for the project really just doesnt understand how it all works. you're not spooling it because the wastegate is open. not because its "too big".
Along with multiple other problems with this build, the Turbo oil drain can not be higher then the turbo.
Need to remove governor, install billet flywheel, billet connecting rod, stronger valve springs and performance camshaft for high RPM.
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I need to put one of these in a Beetle
The carb should go on the intake of the turbocharger and then into the engine
Are you a rocket scientist...
@@Guds777 Basic physics dude.
Suck-through carburettors need a partial vacuum on the intake side of it to work correctly. Applying positive boost pressure from a turbocharger blows air backwards through the carburettor's internals and completely messes up the fuel/air mixture being delivered out of the carburettor, usually leans it right out. It can also cause the petrol in the float bowl to blown right out of it's vent and then force air into the fuel tank when the float drops, instantly starving the carburettor of fuel.
This is why you have either sealed blow-through carbs with fuel pumps feeding them, or you have a suck-through mounted in front of the turbo inlet...or fuel injection.
@@Guds777 Sorry no not that clever, I am only a time served mechanic of 50 years and have worked on Mitsubishi Starion full blown rally cars, super charged 6.5 Lt Shelby Cobras, Chrysler Tigers and full blown Mini Coopers (1960s) to name but a few so I shouldn't comment on things I know nothing about, sorry 😔
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Nice try kid but if it was making ANY boost it would not run! It would pressurize the carb and not let any fuel into it.
Agreed, need to plug the vents and use a fuel press. regulator with a boost reference to match fuel & boost press. equally to have any luck. E.F.I. is the way to go imo.
The carburetor should stand up to the turbine
@@paradiselost9946I don't catch your drift, but I do think your right on with more B.S. as this video is too.
@@paradiselost9946P,S, By the way Mr."carburetor whiz" there is no "pitot tube" in a carburetor. They are on the outside of airplanes or wherever there is a need to measure the velocity of fluids or gases. You sound like you have lost something besides paradise.
Does nobody know how a carb works, hello? Uhh, venturi. The boost would just blow over it and suck more fuel with it
one of my favorite things to do when i get any small motor, a lawnmower, or a go kart, is port and polish the heads.
easy tiny torque gain, and everytime i sell it, extra money
The oil for the turbo needs a cooler and a filter
He didn't lie though. He did say now the engine looks more powerful.
@KLove89 there's a whole wall at parts store of double side tape dodadds, #1. sticker makes it quicker. Lol I like to watch his videos for idea sparks. Well said anyhow.
too cool.. I would have added a fuel filter and oil filter. I think a stater would be a good idea to keep the oil pump battery charging, then you could add lights too
key word "looks" more powerful
No gaskets no waste gate...no boost...straight leaking
No fuel pump. 6psi would be great. But i love the way author going . just go and have fun, I'm usually working 2y before have any fun with anything im building,
@@flashmaker1858You don't need to use a fuel pump
Would be nice to see some performance comparisons. Oh well, great camera work though.
You know in order for this to actually work you would have to pressurize the entire carb along with having a fuel pump that can overcome the boost being developed..
There is so much wrong with the setup, that carby is not setup up for blow thru turbo operation also will need a fuel pump. Will also need a scavenger pump to return oil from the turbo to the tank. Waste gate not even hooked up so was not making boost. It annoyed me that I watched it till the end🤦
I sadgest the marine engine dif, but my engine is pro quep 22 HP, marine engine whed oil pump same like motor cycle pump ithik there is improvement,
"Reliable motor" XD say goodbye to that bearing-less conrod
The carburetor must be installed before the turbocharger
Yep, or else your fueling is all over the place or if it's really bad you can actually blow the fuel out of the carb and back into the tank when it comes on boost.
That leans out your mixture and it'll detonate. I've got a feeling that's why this guy has removed the wastegate actuator, so there's no boost at all anymore.
You can get a sealed blow-through carburettor, but you generally need to pump fuel into it for it to work...and it's a lot of tuning work to get it to run reasonably well.
Турбина в состоянии смеха ))) ей мало этих оборотов и объема выхлопных газов для раскрутки. Но молодец что сделал.
Love the build, but I don't think the exhaust flow will be enough to do much with that size turbo. Which is good since if it did, that engine would definitely toss a cranck 😅😊
Nice i wait for this video long time its useless but its freaking cooool
How not to install a turbo:
This guy actualy made the engine worse.
The tractor looks awesome, and as one other commenter said, your fab skillz are 10/10. But yes, a mechanical fuel fump with a greater psi rating (by at least what the engine needs to run N/A) would make it so that turbno (yes, i spelled it that way on purpose) would actually add boost. It also needs a small intercooler. Think stock Suburu WRX/Suzuki Alto Works style, or even a larger sized heater core if that youtubesteak skrill is running thin.
if you put in this battery i think it's a good idea to put starter in this engine (you made video abou this starter) and make electric ignition in this engine i think it's a good idea :)
You need to re-jet your carb. My son and I and our friends build racing mini bikes with 212cc motors all the time. If your carb came with a jet kit make sure that you check to see which one came pre-installed on the carb because we have to change the jets to like a 130 sometimes a bit lower but you will get the most horsepower out of it and it will run smoothly.
Unfortunately putting that turbo on that engine has done nothing for performance. You have just added weight, if it ever put the waste gate back on it so it could develop boost then it will go lean from the pressure blowing fuel out. Put the carb the other side of the turbo and put the waste gate back on then it will be interesting 👌🏼
Best upgrade ever 🤩👍
Guy could probaly sell some of his grinder disc and wire brush collection and buy a HF plasma cutter!
I know his wife and neighbors would appreciate it!!
Привет!интересное решение,лайк 👍.теперь нужно электростартер,и глушилку на панель сделать.
you need to weld the waste gate closed it wont be making any boost.
It looks like a fun build, good job
How's it make boost with the waste gate flapping around?
Well Done,,,, Seriously . You have a bright engineering future ahead. Understanding motors makes a better driver.
The turbine gate appears to be open. If the actuator is not controlled, no boost will be applied.
Boost gauge will tell you without the wastegate shut you have a exhaust restriction and more vacuum than stock
That oil drain on the turbo LMAO... bruhh its gotta gravity feed to the tank.
Nice job, looks like you need a on dash on and off switch and a longer pull rope for better access.
Turbo is too large. Even if it was smaller, here are things he got wrong.
1-Wastegate open. (There cannot be more air-fuel mixture in engine during power stroke. Which is the whole point of turbo)
2-Too little oil in the system (oil went to hoses and did not add more.)
3-Oil volume for turbo is too low, and does not have filter. And due to low volume of oil, it will get too hot.
4-carburator needs to be before turbo intake
5-engine is aircooled, and it probably melts after short period (assuming all the problems regarding turbo are fixed)
Nice idea. And nicely fabricated parts using simple tools.
Unfortunately it was more like 5-minute crafts. Pointless hand waving, without intention to success.
Nice little project I have a Honda Grom that I just put a tiny turbo on fun to race around town on
Change to a blow through carb and wire the wastegate closed. Then full send it. This was a waste of effort and fab skills. No sub for you.
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Was waiting to see if the gate would get welded shut and how he would boost reference the fuel pressure to carb. But never happened! So this build was pointless.
That's a work of art. Thanks for sharing.
Dude of course it’ll rev higher you took the governor off 😭💀
Amazing! Thank you for sharing this video. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!
nice job an aqua sandblaster would clean that turbo up 🤣😎😎
When someone knows how to do it, they make it look so easy.
why everyone hatin on him he just wanted to install a turbo
Because he did such a terrably poor job of it…...
Cool video, nice work on making the build look good, as well as shooting and editing. Was hoping to see how much difference it made in the end but it felt anticlimactic. Keep going brother, doing great things
turbo oil drain has to be bellow turbo, if wastegate is always open then u arnt making enough boost etc etc
Not sure what kind of plumbing i just watched, but the editing sure made an entertaining watch.
Painfull to look at when you know something about turbocharged engines
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@@zakkabbani3035 Turbo too big (will never make boost), did you notice the waste gate lever not connected to anything? Yeah, you can fake stuff for the uneducated.
I will remember not to click on any other vid by this guy.
The poor thing. Misfiring and all.
Taj turbo neradi bez West Gate dobivena snaga je samo do Karbosa ne od turba on radi u prazno,ostalo sve sta radis Topp,Topp
The amount of metal and slag going into those ports is beyond ridiculous so not bothering to finish watching
Carby in the wrong spot 😂
Great job mate !!
Not really mate… (?)
Great Work!
Now build and install an intercooler to gain another couple hoursepower!
Did you do this just for views? The way you have it, takes power from the engine.
Without control over wastegate flap it makes nothing.
I love the passive aggressive heart he gave you
There are so many things wrong in this video... That turbo oil drain, how is that going to work? And that carb..? 🙈
Lol I know, the oil coming out of that turbo is going to get very hot very quickly and there's no way that hose is going to withstand that.
The oil drain pipes from a turbocharger are *metal* for a very good reason!
Never bypassed the governor. Install a blower that is large enough for a 3 liter I call bull hockey.
100% did not work. you can NOT run a carb on a turbo build without a fuel pressure regulation system
removed the wastgate it won't pressurize either
Wrong, pull through carb is very effective...not many gas carbs are blow through... you don't need a pressure regulator on gravity feed... electric pump is for oiling the turbo...
@@deanvav7820 NO. Not even close. you have no idea and the fact you said that clearly shows you are a troll.
all that work then disconnected the wastegate and making literally 0 psi and probably losing power
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