That Green paint is just Killer! Awesome Job! Only a couple suggestions. The Chain is flopping around a lot like it could potentially fly off the gear. I would put a spring loaded tensioner on it and also a cover from a regular bicycle for protection.😊
There are lot of video on youtube for making alternator as motor but no one share the controller to be used , tx for sharing that. Only affraid of programming controller.
Great project, great video. As you say, the downside of using a car alternator is that it consumes about 50 watts whenever the controller and motor are turned on. On the other hand, with a strong 12S battery you could be drawing 100a x 50v or 5kw so 50w doesn't seem too bad.
You could also up the voltage and put the rotor coil in series with the controller supply? Or you could have s seperate PWM controller for that field coil that gives no pulse width while throttle is at zero...
° I used to work in DENSO INC., Murrieta, Ca Am very much familiar with Alternator assembly for new and repack Denso Starter too are amongst the product we assembled there.
Cool invention, make lawn mowers that last long time to cut lawns that's huge, also on this machine, build a guard to protect you from the chain with something that covers the chain from foot or leg area so not causing injuries by accident. Like the color as well, where's the battery that's 12 volts, I really expected to see a battery where the engine would be an in battery box strapped down good, I don't know how you did it, how fast can it go on the way this is built ? Also make other things as well, I don't get how the Alternator becomes the motor, how you converted the ALT into the motor, I know it recharges the battery and once vehicle is started, then runs off the Alternator and keeps battery charging up. Does it have reverse as should be able to reverse it, the only thing is once the Alternator starts getting wet to much, it will die from water getting inside of it, you never try to get water in it and needs air to help keep cool to operate it and make last longer. Keep up building stuff. I'm baffled on how it works
Why do people freakout over the welding flash? It may be bright but you have to be the person welding or someone standing near by to get flash burn, you can stare at your phone or TV all day watching a welding video and you won't get flash burn. Those UV's don't transfer through your tv
Does the Alternator not have enough torque as a motor to reverse the gear sizing? You are utilizing more torque than speed. Therefore, more battery drain than unit of speed.
I think you can make it more powerfull by wiring it in Δ (Delta/triangle) then in Y (star), but that would require to detect each phase and conect end of it to the start of next one.
Very Cool that is Really Bad Ass I've always been into atvs dirt bikes etc I Believe you could Build them & sell them Easy. Have a good day from the Mountains of Tennessee
Sorry if im being a bit thick but what are the rotor wires connected to? They appear to go into the battery bag. Surely theyre outputting sone firm of ac. How are you converting that to stable dc to charge the battery? Also could you just disconnect it?
i forgot to mention that I used buck converter to supply 12V on the rotor. and for regenerative braking, that one of the capabilities of VESC or the controller i used.
@@albertnario4877 iirc alternators magnetism saturates at 5v, anything more is wasted as heat. Try using a brushed dc motor controller/esc on the rotor. The higher the voltage on the rotor the more torque the motor will make, up to the point that it can't overcome the magnetism, limiting to rpm. If you decrease voltage, the motor can spin faster at the cost of torque. That effectively makes the rotor esc act like a transmission. When you take off or need lots of torque, start at higher voltage, then as you reach the max rpm when lots of torque isn't needed, you can start to drop the voltage to allow it spin faster. Essentially like up shifting a transmission.
Someone gave me the same qwad & a brand new orga(petrol) it's worm drive,so if you run outa fuel (gas),gotta carry back end, designed it to tow log's short distances to my houseboat, but due to the shape of the tank,& diafram carbarettaz I can store it on the back vertical,or left hand side tipped 90°,size of a suitcase,can easily lift over gate's and fences too
I AGREE YOU NEED 75MM FRONT GEAR THEN SEE HOW IT GOES IF NEEDED SMALLER BACK BUT I THINK 75MM FRONT WILL BE FINE TAKE OF 3 SPEED BIKE SPROCKET OF OLD BIKE KEEP COST DOWN
Certain details aren't explained it's a good video but lacks attention to detail when wiring the motor and controller. Explaining the specs after the fact is useless. That chain is extremely loose.....
due to the friction produced by the alternator., if you do it at the same time you are losing more power than gaining.. most EVs use it as regenerative braking.
Unfortunately the law of conservation of energy prohibits it from being possible ... It can only return less energy than is being used due to the required energy to turn the wheels being greater than the return of power from turning the alternator ...
@@johnwayne4724 because the alternator's freespin when you turn them by hand but when they're mounted and there is a current draw put on them they stiffen up very intensely so with multiple alternators it when have so much resistance against the tires that the drive motor wouldn't be able to turn it ... I'm sure there is a way to get around it somehow but we just haven't figured it out yet
So why is everyone saying thanks for blocking the welding? I didn’t realize you can go blind by seeing a video of it? No really what’s the big deal. Epilepsy? What
Yeah I weld every single day and I can promise you that's not how it works, and even with welding you don't just look at it one time and get flash burn, you have to look at that flash a couple times AT LEAST. UV rays don't transfer through your tv. I've had flash burn multiple times. Feels like someone stuffed a bunch of sand under your eye lids
Sure it can, you can have a switch over system that activates the brushes and regulator and rectifier an deactivates the driver, the regulator could be made to charge batteries at a slightly higher voltage offering braking advantage.
Нищебродная тупость: взять со свалки то, что неподходит, и делать из него то, чтобы подошло, не забыв покрасить серебрянкой ... Лучше бы за это время заработали бы денег и купили бы то, что нужно!...
If that was mine I would add an idler/tensioner pulley to take up the slacking the chain , other than that awesome job brother 🍻🏆
You're the only UA-camr that push a screen over his electric welding good job
That Green paint is just Killer! Awesome Job! Only a couple suggestions. The Chain is flopping around a lot like it could potentially fly off the gear. I would put a spring loaded tensioner on it and also a cover from a regular bicycle for protection.😊
Slap some paddles on those tires and tighten that chain!! Then let er rip!! Great job, VERY COOL!!
That crimping method was smooth af
There are lot of video on youtube for making alternator as motor but no one share the controller to be used , tx for sharing that. Only affraid of programming controller.
VESC controllers are simple to program. thanks
Vesc programming, I think is harder than programming a Sabvoton Controller. PLUS the MQCON Phone App is actually free, unlike Vesc.
@@OmniShadesGaming Tx so much for update I'll try that too..
Great project, great video. As you say, the downside of using a car alternator is that it consumes about 50 watts whenever the controller and motor are turned on. On the other hand, with a strong 12S battery you could be drawing 100a x 50v or 5kw so 50w doesn't seem too bad.
you can remove that 50w from the rotor, just need to convert the rotor coil into a permanent magnet..
@@albertnario4877you can play with field weakening to get a higher efficiency if you kept it an electro mag correct?
@@cronicjohnson i try that field weakening.
You could also up the voltage and put the rotor coil in series with the controller supply? Or you could have s seperate PWM controller for that field coil that gives no pulse width while throttle is at zero...
you are very genius by putting filter on welding process. We don't need to see it directly like other youtubers did
It wont hurt your eyes but it may help if you have epilepsy
You think it will burn your eyes??😂😂
@@gisli12idiots lol😂
If you see necked eye it may make you eyes blind he did well for your own protection.
Cool build God bless
Looks like that little man is having a blass nice job on the bike🤠
°
I used to work in DENSO INC., Murrieta, Ca
Am very much familiar with Alternator assembly for new and repack
Denso Starter too are amongst the product we assembled there.
Skilled genius!
Galing mo naman sir,dami mo pa magagawa dyan para. Maimprove idol ka na agad
Good work engineer I ask whether it can also charge it's own?👍
I think it does really good okay power
Sana nextime po car alternator generator naman.
bos saang store mo po nabili yang MAXKGO mini V6.8 100A controller mo po?thankyou
that's too cool man!
Whats the name (model.make) of your atv? I really like the frame setup
Really enjoyed this video,Keep up the good work🥰
Thank you so much!!
i never realized how little it takes to turn an alternator into a motor
Very nice insight thankyou for the upload ❤❤❤❤
very nice
Cool invention, make lawn mowers that last long time to cut lawns that's huge, also on this machine, build a guard to protect you from the chain with something that covers the chain from foot or leg area so not causing injuries by accident. Like the color as well, where's the battery that's 12 volts, I really expected to see a battery where the engine would be an in battery box strapped down good, I don't know how you did it, how fast can it go on the way this is built ? Also make other things as well, I don't get how the Alternator becomes the motor, how you converted the ALT into the motor, I know it recharges the battery and once vehicle is started, then runs off the Alternator and keeps battery charging up. Does it have reverse as should be able to reverse it, the only thing is once the Alternator starts getting wet to much, it will die from water getting inside of it, you never try to get water in it and needs air to help keep cool to operate it and make last longer. Keep up building stuff. I'm baffled on how it works
very cool
Why do people freakout over the welding flash? It may be bright but you have to be the person welding or someone standing near by to get flash burn, you can stare at your phone or TV all day watching a welding video and you won't get flash burn. Those UV's don't transfer through your tv
Right just like I don't get spot from led headlights right😂😂😂😂
Some people can have seizures from the flash, just like video games can. Like he said that he was being considerate for the viewers.
Does the Alternator not have enough torque as a motor to reverse the gear sizing? You are utilizing more torque than speed. Therefore, more battery drain than unit of speed.
Nice video, would recommend turning up ur voice a little cuz you working with the motor is loud
bigger front sprocket smaller back sprocket and tighten that dam chain
Also, cover that sprocket. Bad injury incoming that only increases with the wrong clothing
@blingcity101 agreed
He's just another UA-cam peckerhaed show off, for the money.
@@CharlieJ_Rizzlerand fit a chainguard.
@@blingcity101in my experience you usually don’t learn until till the chain try’s to actually eat you or pull you right off your bike 😂
Zabardast information in video... Thanks bro
good job man
Nice video thank you, Please share some links on how to program the MAXKGO mini V6.8 100A and where one can buy one
the vesc is already in description😁
Very good power,🤙🏽
😂Super bravo dans le nom Jésus Amen 🙏❤️❤️🙏
But once you put load, doesn't the motor get hot?
That's great. Now put a, ten speed gears from a mountain bike and I bet that thing would pick up some speed
for small ATV like this it's a no.. but on a bigger ATV that's a great idea..
@albertnario4877 😂 true.
That would be dangerous for such a small bike.
I love it ..let me try it and see ..thank you ..sir
Good torque !
you can operate again with hoverboards they are my favorite videos
Bro last question in final version when your kid was driving what are the batt. voltage & used to drive the rotor shaft?
36V 10Ah battery.
peak power 500w
I think you can make it more powerfull by wiring it in Δ (Delta/triangle) then in Y (star), but that would require to detect each phase and conect end of it to the start of next one.
that is my first plan.. but in the end I'm not sure which is the A B C..
Have you tried playing with the voltage to your rotor, i have seen this make huge differences to motor output.
Good project but that drive sprocket without a cover meeting up with an ankle wouldn't be too nice
Magkano po price ng controller? Saan nyo po nabili? Parang nakaka encourage naman gumawa
SUPER COOL! LET'S WORKSHOP :D
Sensor less inverter?
Looks great but idk i think i would have put the batteries somewhere else, little close to the boys 🥜. 😂 Js
Smarter than me.
Watch your ankle on that chain gear, and I think I would mount battery somewhere besides right in front of your junk😅
How many kilometers per hour and how many kgs does it lifts
Very Cool that is Really Bad Ass
I've always been into atvs dirt bikes etc
I Believe you could Build them & sell them Easy. Have a good day
from the Mountains of Tennessee
Great !
sir, kahit anong klasing car alternator ba ay puede? salamat
yes.. halos lahat ng car alternator ay same windings..
Sorry if im being a bit thick but what are the rotor wires connected to? They appear to go into the battery bag. Surely theyre outputting sone firm of ac. How are you converting that to stable dc to charge the battery?
Also could you just disconnect it?
i forgot to mention that I used buck converter to supply 12V on the rotor. and for regenerative braking, that one of the capabilities of VESC or the controller i used.
@@albertnario4877 iirc alternators magnetism saturates at 5v, anything more is wasted as heat. Try using a brushed dc motor controller/esc on the rotor. The higher the voltage on the rotor the more torque the motor will make, up to the point that it can't overcome the magnetism, limiting to rpm. If you decrease voltage, the motor can spin faster at the cost of torque. That effectively makes the rotor esc act like a transmission. When you take off or need lots of torque, start at higher voltage, then as you reach the max rpm when lots of torque isn't needed, you can start to drop the voltage to allow it spin faster. Essentially like up shifting a transmission.
What is that a 3 tooth sprocket on the motor?
That wont last long..
husay pinoy
needs a chain tensioner or it will snap and warp around the kid's leg,
Someone gave me the same qwad & a brand new orga(petrol) it's worm drive,so if you run outa fuel (gas),gotta carry back end, designed it to tow log's short distances to my houseboat, but due to the shape of the tank,& diafram carbarettaz I can store it on the back vertical,or left hand side tipped 90°,size of a suitcase,can easily lift over gate's and fences too
Cool
Keren bro
BEEN SAYING THIS FOR 25YRS ... ALTERNATORS
Sir .. bat ndi Nagana Yung rt data sa vesctool Nung nag connect Ako Ng flipsky motor?
try mo baligtarin yung rx tx wire ng Bluetooth module..
HAVE 2 BATTERIES......WITH SWITCH OVER .....CHARGING ONE WHILE USING THE OTHER
I AGREE YOU NEED 75MM FRONT GEAR THEN SEE
HOW IT GOES
IF NEEDED SMALLER BACK BUT I THINK 75MM FRONT WILL BE FINE TAKE OF 3 SPEED BIKE SPROCKET OF OLD BIKE KEEP COST DOWN
Rất tuyệt vời
thanks
Needs a chain tensioner.
👍👍👍👍
2:44 why the black square?
some viewers are sensitive to flashing lights..
@@albertnario4877ah, that makes sense.
So you don’t go blind even from your phone😮
It doesn't mean that it didn't work for you, it's the same for them. be considerate to others.
@@DarmondeDemmons-l7h wait, you think your phone is bright enough to blind you!?
Cuál es el modelo del control de velocidad
That unguarded and poorly tensioned chain is dangerous.
Certain details aren't explained it's a good video but lacks attention to detail when wiring the motor and controller. Explaining the specs after the fact is useless.
That chain is extremely loose.....
Wait you forget the light 😅😅
I don't understand why electric cars , trucks and busses don't have alternators to keep batteries charged .
due to the friction produced by the alternator., if you do it at the same time you are losing more power than gaining.. most EVs use it as regenerative braking.
Unfortunately the law of conservation of energy prohibits it from being possible ... It can only return less energy than is being used due to the required energy to turn the wheels being greater than the return of power from turning the alternator ...
@@jesusischrist1527 I wonder why this couldn’t be solved with like multiple alternators
@@johnwayne4724 because the alternator's freespin when you turn them by hand but when they're mounted and there is a current draw put on them they stiffen up very intensely so with multiple alternators it when have so much resistance against the tires that the drive motor wouldn't be able to turn it ... I'm sure there is a way to get around it somehow but we just haven't figured it out yet
No. It cant.
Alternator is Not a Motor my friend
Lol so what are we seeing 👀
it needs a clutch
So why is everyone saying thanks for blocking the welding? I didn’t realize you can go blind by seeing a video of it? No really what’s the big deal. Epilepsy? What
You can get flash
@@Chi-TownBrian Not from a video. The tv/computer/phone whatever screen cannot output enough energy to burn your eyes.
Im dead 😂
Yeah I weld every single day and I can promise you that's not how it works, and even with welding you don't just look at it one time and get flash burn, you have to look at that flash a couple times AT LEAST. UV rays don't transfer through your tv. I've had flash burn multiple times. Feels like someone stuffed a bunch of sand under your eye lids
@@Chi-TownBriani love reading braindead comments
Gear box must
Please do not breathe in rust dust...it is a carcinogen...use a mask...great project
thanks 🙏
Sir Albert?
yes?
Need to convert to brushless
You are a Great Father and very smart 🙏🚂🎼🌹🎶🎵⚕️🛠~C< 3)>>-Z->}
Yeah and they could do the cars the same way don't you think! I thought Elon was smart shit he needs to invest in some alternators for his car
No need to black out the arc. It won't hurt your eyes if you look at it through a screen.
LIES
Also I forgot to add this is amazing.
Exactly 💯
체인 텐셔너 달아줘유
4 wheel drive
if i can get a bigger ATV chassis I can make one..
An alternator can't be motor and a charger
Sure it can, you can have a switch over system that activates the brushes and regulator and rectifier an deactivates the driver, the regulator could be made to charge batteries at a slightly higher voltage offering braking advantage.
No entiendo en chino 😢
Belt drive
Don't waste your time!!!!
Нищебродная тупость: взять со свалки то, что неподходит, и делать из него то, чтобы подошло, не забыв покрасить серебрянкой ...
Лучше бы за это время заработали бы денег и купили бы то, что нужно!...
термоусадку с контроллера удали😁