Sublimation on to Oracal 651 - GLOSSY VINYL STICKERS!!!
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2020
- Video explaining the process I use to sublimate on to Oracal 651 vinyl to create GLOSSY vinyl stickers.
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Thank you you fit sharing this video. Short Very clear and straight to the point. Best one from the many I tried watching.
I’ll definitely try that! If you laminate two sheets of vinyl together back to back, you can separate them after laminated. The front will remain “sublimatable” while the back will be free from the lamination film, making it more flexible and easier to peel off.
in theory yes, just need to be mindful of the thickness going through the laminator itself. Heat pressing the laminate sheets to the vinyl never gave good results for me.
Great Idea,,,I have done a few like that and its much better than a single one..
Considering the ordinary use for a laminator with a heavy cardstock inside the "sandwich," two sheets of Oracal 651, back to back, is certainly not as thick. I only get frustrated with the 651 wanting to coil up inside the pouch, so I never do this when I'm tired.
Thank you so much for the tutorial. Very clear. Definitely gonna do this soon. Happy holidays.
You just took out about 4-6 steps and made it very clear and easier to do great job
Finally! A video that makes sense. I have watched so many confusing videos on this process. You make it so much more understandable. I think I can actually do this. Thanks, mate.
Wow. Thank you so much. You rescued my many failed attempts and hours of misery trying to press the laminate directly on the vinyl then subbing. Seriously, thank you for making this video. Mine came out (almost) perfect.
Brilliant, thanks for doing this video.
Awesome!! Thanks for the perfect explanation!! Thanks for sharing!! Cheers! Christine
Thank you sooo much I was frustrated with the dull colors I was receiving by just sublimating directly on orcale 651.
So cool. I just ordered all my sublimation stuff today. I can not wait to try this.
Have you tried IT?
Thanks, This worked like a charm,,,,,,Thanks again for the video ! : )
I watched maybe 13 vids so far and yours was the first one that made it make sense. I thought we were subbing the oracle 651. I was also wondering how you could adhere it if it was laminated. You explained it all thank you so much 🙏
Thank you so very much!!! I have to make car decals and this tutorial has saved me 🙏🙏🥰
Will the sublimation ink hold up well from weather and baking in the sun ?
@@ellagregory818 use UV coating spray ;-)
@@tonycarrington4426 oh I didn't know there was such a think lol thanks 🙂
@@ellagregory818 UV spray works, but can sometimes be noticable. It's a bit of a pain, but I used to use UV sheets that I would roll press on the sticker. Holds up well, but it is time consuming.
I always thought about using a laminator machine! glad to see I wasn’t wrong, like u stated in the comments I never had luck with a heat press applying the film, great video!!
Mine is coming out all bubbly... I just ordered laminator, hoping that fixes the issue...
Great tutorial!!! Do you have a one on the cut and print process ?
Thank you for a great video 👍🏼
That’s amazing. Thank you
Great tutorial thank you
Thank you so much I have a large sheet of this oracle white sticker vinyl. I have been cutting A4 size papers to print directly from the sublimation printer most of the time it will work or will cause paper jam then I have to make it smaller but in the end will be so frustrated from this whole process. Thank you for saving me.
genious!!! I was wondering if this could be done instead of all the other videos that cut and offset, cut a print, try to line them up and heat them as 2 or 3 separate pieces!! I dont have a laminating machine, do you have setting recommendations for a heat press to seal the laminate on?
Thank you this is the way to go!
Hi thank you for all the great advice. The one thing I'm not struggle with is which icc profile you put the printer on?
thanks
excellent video thanks ;-)
Great video but what can I use to make it waterproof n fade proof like for a car decal repositionable deca ?l thank you
Thanks for sharing 😊
Does it matter if you use gloss or matte vinyl, because the laminate is gloss anyway, I'm assuming, great video, made me finally understand the process.
Are these good for vehicle decals? I know the vinyl on its own is. But will the ink wash off eventually?
This is a very helpful video!! So glad I found it. Now question hubby is wanting me to make a decal for his truck. Do you think this will hold up outdoors?
They don't last forever due to UV, but I've had one last for a good few months. Best advice is give it a go, what ya got to lose? 👍🏼
hi michelle..you can purchase UV sublimation spray that provides protection and seeing that its on Oracle 651 should last a long time ;-)
Do you know what kind of sticker I can use for a car decal for inside window in a white sticker paper?
How water proof do the stickers come out
I see you are using Ink experts sub paper. What ICC profile do you use it on? thank you
Brilliant video and much appreciated.
What cutter do you have?
Currently a Graphtec CE6000
I cut the laminate sheet in half and laminate only the vinyl side. Saves on vinyl and if your laminator needs thicker material - just run a piece of paper thru on the bottom of the sheet, and vinyl
How does it save on vinyl?
@@ANDTOTOPITOFF I'm sure she meant saves on laminate
is this using 651 white matte or 651 white glossy? Thanks!
Hi. This method saved us a few $. Because The solvent and ecosolvent printers are really expensive. I want to start making car stickers, i have ideas for 3d printed stickers but șont have a expensive printer. This method îs really good and i didnt know about it. I didnt try it Because i didnt order my cutter plotter and The rest of equipments.
Can you please tell me that sticker îs still hanging on your window? The colors are still The same? The laminator îs perfectly sticked on The oracal vinyl?
I need to guarante to my clients at least 1 year of good sticker...
Will this work for slap stickers? Will the sun make them fade?
Great video thanks. Tried the white vinyl which worked well. However when I used the clear vinyl the lines from the backing paper printed through. What did I do wrong? Thanks
Hi Fiona, glad the process worked. Are you using Oracal 651 or a different brand of vinyl? I would try lowering the temperature slightly and maybe the duration. Try in 10⁰ and 10 second increments and see how you get on.
Thanks for that no I’m using the Crucit vinyl so that could also be the problem thanks for the quick reply
How does the ink hold up with it being on a car?
Could this be used for decal on windows ? ❤the simplicity of your video and what you did!!!
Can I use it for the car decal ?
Hi good video bro, are these waterproof, and can you stick them to thee outside of a vehicle, thanks Andy
Great video! One question.. will the sublimation be waterproof?
Check out some of the replies, had similar questions. I've had one stuck on a window outside for around a month to test it out. So far so good. Sun, rain, snow and ice and is holding up ok.
Wow this is great. Is it possible to sublimate directly onto the vinyl?
Yes you can, however the heat makes the vinyl go matt and the colours are dull. This way the stickers are glossy and vibrant.
Thank you!
for some reason my laminate wont stay stuck to the oracle 651 matte
How can I get these registration marks in Photoshop?
Two questions for you can you sublimate direct to vinyl then laminate or is it too hot and secondly can you use any vinyl if your using the laminate on top. Look forward to a reply cheers good video.
In testing, sublimating direct to the vinyl produced dull washed out colours. Laminating over the top helped get a shine but the colours still weren't as vibrant.
I tried different vinyl and the results just weren't as good. Some of the vinyl couldn't take the heat either.
But feel free to experiment, you might get lucky with your choice of vinyl 👍🏼
Thanks!!!!
Can you share color settings. I've tried so many but after subbing mine color is so dull
Hi there, sorry to hijack this video but was wondering if you had an idea when the full van tour of the t5 camper was coming? Love the layout, just got myself a lwb t5.1 and looking to do the same / similar layout. Did you do the build youself? Thanks
Hi Bob, if on Instagram, go check out @T5FHX, thats the van build/adventures. Drop us a message on there if you need any help or info. Cheers
Using the sub ink does it make it UV & weater protective for a car decal? Thanks
In all honesty, no. However, I have had a sticker I made on the outside of glass and it lasted a good few months. Guess it depends on how long you need it to last.
Thank you so much
What would be advantage of sublimating it over printing straight from a laserjet?
No idea on advantages but my main advantage is i don't have a laser or pigment printer.
I like your video, are these weather proof can they be used on outside signs
Hi Dwayne, I have had one of these stickers on an outside window for some months now and it has lasted well. Rain, Snow, cold and sun doesn't seem to have faded or affected it.
Nice
This is by far the best video ever, I have one question is it water proof
Yes and no. I tested one stuck on an outside window. The colours stayed well but the lamination started to peel after about 3 months. These are ideal for indor use. Jars, bottles etc, maybe kids toy boxes or anything not likely to spend too long outside in the elements.
Because they don’t last forever I print family photos. Sublimated lamented and put on my parents head stones. It’s ok they don’t last. We have 4 seasons and family occasions. Now my parents can have a piece of our lives. It may sound weird but to us it’s a very special thing. I first started doing this years before Cricut and sublimation was poppy. I used packing tape to cover my photos on photo paper and inkjet ink. Worked ok. But I think this will definitely look better and Color’s last longer. Thank you
hi there,
By doing this process I can print on the t-shirt as well right?
Just simply pull out the sticker and put it on the t-shirt, in that case should I need to heatpress or not as I can see It's sticky on the back side.
Thanks
A sticker isn't designed for garments, you'd be better off sublimating straight to the tshirt (if they are not 100% cotton)
How do you get the paper backing off....I tried this and it worked beautifully until I tried to peel the paper backing off the vinyl and I cant get it to come off..suggestions?
once you cut around the image the back of the laminate sheet should peel off with the paper backing.
8:24 but it wasn't sublimated onto the white oracal, it was on to the laminate layer, correct? What laminate sheeting did you use, anything in particular or just run of the mill lamination pouches?
I just use standard unbranded lamination wallets.
How do you stop static? I always get tiny dust particles, which stands out soo much on anything white.
Try using a Tack Cloth (you can get these from a car paint supplier) these use them for removing fine dust particles before spraying.
So I tried this worked great. The only problem I’m finding is that I end up with little tiny bubbles is there any way to stop this?
If you are using a roller type laminator, and you have the option to adjust heat/speed settings, try those. Or maybe try switching brand of laminate pouches.
What mil thickness are your laminating sheets? I have the option of 5 mil and 3 mil. I bought 5 mil and it seems a little too thick, but will wait for your answer before purchasing the 3mil. TIA.
My laminator can use thick and thin (adjustment dial on the side)
Although it seems thick, remember youll only be using the front. The paper backing and rear of the laminate pouch will be discarded. 5mm or 3mm should work but if you personally feel the 5mm is too thick, try the 3mm.
@@ccdesign296 Okay, great. I'll give it another go and see how it works then. I appreciate that quick response!
You can sublimate right on the vinyl. You don't have to use the laminate pouches at all to make it.
Correct, however the heat melts the shine off the vinyl and you end up will dull matt stickers
Hi
while watching your video I had an idea on how to improve some part of your process and make it a little bit less wasteful regarding you laminating sheets
what would happen if you sandwiched to sheets of Oracal vinyl, back to back (backing sheet against backing sheet) and then laminated them
when you cut around after that, won't you be able to separate them and end up with two sheet of laminated vinyl but no laminated sheet wasted on the backing paper? is there a risk that the heat of your laminating machine will make the two backing stick to each other?
Great idea and in theory would/should work. However, 2 layers of Oracal 651back to back will be too thick for the laminator to handle. As i said in a reply to another viewer, I've never had much success using a heat press to laminate the vinyl due to downward pressure rather than smoothing pressure applied by a laminator machine.
You could cut the laminator pouch in half and only laminate the front ofbthe vinyl, however, during testing, i found this method not as successful (maybe the extra layer thickness helps bond the laminate sheet to the vinyl better)
@@ccdesign296 Thanks for answering. I don't have access yet to Oracal and I didn't know it was this thick.
@@ccdesign296 so in theory a thinner vinyl then you could use 2 vinyl sheets backing to backing?
@@officermeyerdollar store has the worst vinal for making anything. But I wonder if using it for laminate stickers would help the vinal ( cheap and very thin) to cut without t tearing?
Because you are sublimating onto the laminate, do you have to use Oracal 651? Or can you use any vinyl?
I did try a different brand of vinyl before purchasing the ORACAL651 but it seemed to crinkle under the heat. Definitely worth experimenting with different vinyl brands though.
I've done this now with a few different designs and I really like the result, the only problem I'm having is over time the laminate sheet seems to be peeling away from the vinyl. Any ideas on how to keep this from happening??
It could be a number of things to be honest. Are you using a laminator machine to apply the laminate sheets?
Has the machine got a thickness setting?
Are they good quality laminate sheets?
@@ccdesign296 This is the laminator I use: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F62X9YM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These are the laminate sheets: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GYDTTK4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
From what I can tell, my machine doesn't have a thickness setting, just the option for hot or cold laminate and I always use hot
@@jessiraejordan9266 then if you are doing everything the same the only thing it can be is the laminate pouches themselves.
@@ccdesign296 Which laminate pouches would you recommend?
@@jessiraejordan9266 I have not tried this yet but I do know the pouches come in diffferent mil thinknesses e.g. 3mil and 5mil. I'm currious if that would make a diferance?
Do you know if i can sublimate onto self-adhesive laminating sheets that don't require laminating machine? I dont owned a normal printer, just convert my printer to a sublimation printer, and i dont owned a laminating machine as well.
Best advice i can give is try it. Give it a go. Best thing about hobbies and crafts is to try new methods and see what works for you. 👍🏼
@@ccdesign296 Thank you for your reply! I'll give it a short and let you know. my only concern is that self-adhesive laminating sheets might not be able to handle the heat when i sublimate onto it
Can you use a hot press instead of the laminator ?
I never had success using the heatpress. With a laminator, the air is smoothed out as it goes through the rollers. A heatpress is downwards pressure and traps air.
Has anyone actually put this back into their cutting machine to have it be cut? Like a Cricut? Print then Cut Method? What material setting did you use for it?
I was wondering the same thing...what setting to cut on
Is there a way to laminate the adhesive vinyl without the laminator and with a heat press instead?
I never had much success heatpressing the laminate pouches, this method is more reliable and rolls as it presses rather than downward pressure which traps air and causes bubbles and distortion
@@ccdesign296 yes!!! I was trying my heat press this am and TONS OF BUBBLES! So I went on Amazon and ordered a laminate machine
I tried this process following your directions and my sub is not transferring onto the laminated vinyl. Do you think I have the wrong kind of laminate pouch or something?
Are you setting to 180⁰ centigrade? Im in uk and we use the metric system 👍🏼
This did not work for me.. I have almost the same press. Mine is new and don’t know temps yet seeing I’m use to cricut press. I have to raise temp to 305 and did a min. That was after doing it on 180 for the min. Cause that left nothing it was blank.
Someone please tell me why this is better or different then printing a normal sticker on sticker paper and covering it with a sticker laminate sheet. Isnt this juts extra steps i feel like there has to be a reason
Aren't you supposed to laminate the stickers AFTER heat pressing and before contour cutting?
With a normal pigment printer yes, but we are trying to cheat the system here by using a sublimation printer to sublimate onto the laminate pouches.
Is it a certain type of laminate sheet? I have the pouches and not one bit of color transferred :-(
Are you using the correct heat setting? The video is in Celsius not Fahrenheit
Hi, my profile pic is the Clear Gloss Vinyl Sticker I want to make. Using the 'clear' Oracle 651 vinyl, will I be able to transfer the colour white onto my see-through/clear Gloss vinyl sticker? I notice that your Batman sticker had colour (not white) so I wanted to check. My goal is to achieve my profile pic of the white flowers with a see-through background (background is not brown like the picture, but should be see-through like the 'clear' oracle 651 vinyl !). Thank you Black Cat Productions.
Please let me know ✨
the color white does not come thru unless you have white ink. Sawgrass has a printer thaat does white I believe
hi again.... what thickness laminate are you using? thanks Tony
try various thicknesses, it'll depend on your laminate machine. I just use a standard laminator pouch
Is it the same for the clear vinyl?
Throughout the video i mention its the same process for white or clear.
I'm trying your method using my cricut heat press and I can't get the image to transfer to the laminate sheet. The lowest heat setting I have is 210 and I've done it twice for 60 seconds but when I look the laminated sheet is completely blank like nothing happened. What am I doing wrong? I'm using A-Sub paper, scotch laminating pouches, oracle 651 clear permanent adhesive vinyl. Cricut heat press 2 and cricut heat mat and cricut maker.. please advise if you can 🙏🏾
Hi, seems odd your heat press only drops to 210. Is that Celsius or Fahrenheit? The setting i use is 180 Celsius for 60 seconds. Hope this helps
@@ccdesign296 thanks for replying it's 210 Fahrenheit
Lol it was the temperature I just did a 355 Fahrenheit and it's all good. Waiting for it to cool down now!
@@CR810 glad it's sorted
@@ccdesign296 worked like a charm. You're a good man for sharing. I appreciate you stay safe ✊🏾
I having the problem that the laminate pouch didn't stick in the 651 very well .... u can peel the laminate off like the sticker itself. what doing I wrong?
Heat press temps tend to vary so much, I'd try a few different temps and durations. Is the laminate sticking to the vinyl straight out the laminator and before the heatpress stage?
@@ccdesign296 no I doesn't stick on the vinyl from the beginning. trying different pouches, different temperatures and time. now I ordered a laminator, maybe the result is better than with the heatpress. but I don't think so, I viewed other videos they laminated wood canvas and so on. I can't put that throw the laminator 😅
maybe its ok as is, but imo it feels very "loosen" on the vinyl. like a bad sticker.
is the laminate from the vinyl even not resolvable at your process? or how much strength is necessary to separate the parts again?
@@timherold4848 I never had much success heat pressing the vinyl into the laminate pouches, that's why I used the laminator. The laminator smoothes the bubbles out as it slowly rolls through therefore giving a better even adhesion. Heat pressing applies downward pressure so any trapped air isn't pushed out.
Will these be waterproof doing them this way?
early tests prove positive. Had a test sticker stuck on an outside window for over a month in sun, rain, snow and ice and still good colours and adhesion.
Does the colors hold up well in the elements if u put it on a car window ?
It's not bad considering people's comments about it not being uv proof. Never gonna last as long as a proper pigment printed sticker but we are working with a lot cheaper equipment 👍
@@ccdesign296 yeah , I tried one with just my inkjet printer and it only lasted a couple of days lol so I was hoping I could make one with my sublimation printer . I seen where someone said they made using uv protected lamination plastic
Is this waterproof ?
Hi, I did exactly what you said and it’s still not transferring. If I go up in temp it will but I’m now burning the laminate too. Any suggestions?
Are you using ⁰c or ⁰f? My settings are in ⁰c.
Also, are you heat pressing the laminate sheets onto the vinyl or using a laminator machine?
@@ccdesign296 hi, yes I am laminating the vinyl into the laminated sheets using the laminator. If I sublimate at 300+ degrees I can get it to sublimate, but it burns the laminate. It is in F as well.
@@heather0479 perhaps try a different brand of laminate sheets. Or try getting laminate sheets with a thinner and thicker micron rate.
@@ccdesign296 ya, that’s what I was thinking. Your sheets do look thinner. Thank you for your advice
Hmmm I tried at 330F for 60 seconds and the paper stuck to the vinyl like I had to run water wash it away it was sealed stuck with a-sub paper
Play with temperatures, some heat press "actual" temperatures are very different to what the display says. Play around lowering temps and duration.
Can you use Cricut vinyl for this?
To be totally honest I'm not sure as i don't have Cricut vinyl. Give it a go, what have you got to lose?
Is it water proof can I use it for car decals ?
Yes, I had some trial versions stuck on an outside window and they lasted for ages. I can't guarentee years but they certainly didn't fade or peel while I was testing.
not sure if you mean 180 F or C because the F is not hot enough or its just not working for me
It's Celsius, turn on captions for more advice during the video
do u have to use laminate sheets
It's the poly in the laminate sheet you sublimate onto so yes.
@@ccdesign296 okay thank you
Is the vinyl used for printing or is it just white vinyl?
Both
Would this work and hold up for like an outdoor sign?! Thanks so much for all this info!!
Had some test stickers on the outside windows of the house and lasted very well. No fade or peel
Hi how do you get around your plotter seeing the registration Mark's in reverse/mirrored after you've heatpressed the image. Mine doesn't cut on the image after I press the image.
Thanks for the video you can press straight on the vinyl but that ends up looking matte this way gives it a nice glossy finish.
I wondered exactly the same when I was trialling this method. Fried my brain tbh, but all I do is print and press in mirror but cut in un-mirrored. The registration marks identify the furthest points so mirrored or un-mirrored they stay the same. I know it sounds alien but give it a go.
I will thank you for the quick reply. Top job by the way maybe make a video on this and put it in the title I'm sure loads of us have the same problem and I cant find anything on it searching UA-cam so it should hopefully get you loads of views. I'm gonna subscribe mate. Thanks again.
Just got round to trying this and what I found out was if I cut a symmetrical image I had no problems but if the image is different on one side my plotter would cut the image the wrong way round due to it been mirrored after heat pressing.
I hadn't noticed before there is an option in my cutting software (sign master pro) to cut in mirrored mode once I clicked this option the problem was solved and everything cuts as it should. Wish I had seen this option before I've wasted so much vinyl haha.
Love the nice glossy images though from following your idea, works really well 👍
@@ForwardMovingDesigns ha ha, glad you got it sorted, as I said, I print in mirrored and cut in un-mirrored (which is now kind of what you are doing) Pleased it's all come good for you. Happy Sticker making!
Yes so to clarify things then what we are saying is I mirror my work in the Workspace and you mirror your work in the printer options.
Why not print on the vinyl then laminate over that to protect the ink print?
From testing, and as others have found, printing directly to the vinyl gives dull colours and even turns the gloss vinyl matt. Its the poly in the laminate sheet that allows the sublimation.
@@ccdesign296 is it waterproof though after being printed on the laminate? I’d like to start making anima decals for cars* so I need to know if they’d hold up in the sun / rain >.
@@ohayodecals6410 I have had one stuck on the window outside as a trial for over a month now. Wind, Rain, Sun and even Snow and ice and it seems to have held up ok. Colours still good, no peeling. Time will tell but early results are proving good!
@@ccdesign296 wow thanks!!
I take it the temp is celcius. I tried to convert it to Fahrenheit and my laminate gets all winked. I've gone thru about 50 sheets and still can get it right. I'm trying to make a page of sticker for the grandkids. I'm using 3mil laminate. You make it look so easy. If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks
Have you got captions turned on for the video? It's 180⁰ Celsius. Are you using a heat press to laminate the vinyl as heatpressing doesn't work. Turn on captions and read the notes on the video, it will definitely help.
@@ccdesign296 I think they mean after that, when using the press to sublimate onto the laminate sheets
but you can sublimate on oracal 651 white and clear without the lamination
correct, however the colours are extremely dull and the heat makes the vinyl go matt.
@@ccdesign296 then you can add laminate after to make it glossy and weather proof
Why the need to laminate as u can print straight onto the vinyl
Sublimation direct to vinyl gives an awful matt finish. Tried it with various types of vinyl and always got same dull results
how many microns is the lamination film?
Shouldn't really mate buddy, the laminate pouches I have came unbranded in a bag (no box) so not sure of the microns. Thinner the better I guess as long as your laminator can deal with slim pouches.
@@ccdesign296 ok, thank you!
And related to print directly to orac vinyl with pigment or dye ink IT doesnt Last even if you laminate IT. The sun destroys The colors even with laminator
But didn't you juste waste half the product by using both sides of the laminate?
Its the 180° c or f
Centigrade 👍🏼
What if you dont have a lamintor
Grab one locally. As i say in the video, they are very cheap. Using the heatpress doesn't work so you'll need a laminator.