Here is what I suggest. First.. every "draft problem" should start with going back to the basics on the entire chimney. That is 90% of what's important and gets 10% of the attention. One 3 foot "right angle" is not the problem (but it exasperated an existing problem.) The Russian stove builders draw smoke up and down 5 times for 20 feet, before it exits the chimney. They have "horizonal runs" through benches for 10 feet with NO UPWARD ANGLE, as do rocket stove makers through cob benches. A good draft can pull a horizonal run NO PROBLEM. The absolute basics are.... does your flex liner or stove pipe go all the way to the top or is part of it a brick or teracota chimney? Some people only run it up 10 feet or so. Not good. Second, is the 6 inches of the stove pipe or flex liner all the way to the top completely round and "clear?" ie... Is it bent or kinked at some point through a fireplace damper for example. Installers will do that sometimes. Most wood stoves have a "plate" or baffle at the top of the firebox that pushes smoke back toward you, and back toward the glass, and partially blocks the entrance to the chimney. You will lose heating but that's better than smoke in the room... , the baffle can be cut smaller (in some stoves, keeping the back part and removing the section that extends toward the glass) or a few holes can be cut or drilled in it so you have more smoke able to go directly up instead of pushed back at you. Finally, a fully insulated chimney solves almost all problems. A 6 inch pipe surrounded by a 8 inch or 10 inch pipe with the space between stuffed with perllite, vermiculite, or mineral wool, sometimes with the first two mixed 5 to 1 with mortar or portland cement creates a draw / draft monster.
Good to see you again. I would not have thought about angling the pipe. And even if I had thought of it, I'd have discounted the idea because of how I thought it would look. I am surprised to see that I do like it and think it does look better and less intrusive in the space.
Hey Gary, Good to hear from you! Thanks for commenting. We originally had a shorter horizontal run going to the chimney but after seeing old school house with the pipe run from the center of the room straight up to the ceiling and then all the way across the room and out we thought with more pipe inside this would heat better. It may have put off a little more heat but didn't put out enough to make it worth the hassle with the smoke. We are looking at changing stoves possibly... What kind of wood stove do you have?
My experience, add a fresh air intake to the stove, don't make the wood stove choke trying to get air through cracks or poor sealed door or window. For some reason wood stove sellers do not emphasize fresh air. Fire burns brighter, wood burns better and no smoke.
Per my other comment... a very important piece I forgot. First off, in the comment that follows I assume there is a small problem. Some people are confused about wood stoves. MANY will smoke the house if the door is opened. They are meant to be operated with the door closed. MANY have a baffle that directs the smoke directly forward and "hides" the chimney hold. Of course these are going to smoke if you open the door. Who says you are supposed to be able to open the door while you have a raging fire. I agree, many who have wood stoves can do this, but if you cannot, that does not necessarily mean there is a problem. Simply build a large amount of twigs and small wood pieces before lighting so the door does not have to be opened until its only coals.
Your 90degree angled pipe was not your problem. Being you do not have a smoke chamber, your stove needs to have a smoke shelf. It should be just a few inches below where the fire and air from it leaves the stove fire chamber. It will increase air flow ten fold and will have no smoke coming out the load door area.
No problems... Been doing it for years. Think it'd have to be damn near kiln dried to start up. I've measured with a thermometer gun. Doesn't get very hot at all and it gets burned before the woods ignitability temperature decreases.
I have a yurt with your previous set up and am definitely getting some smoke coming back inside. Luckily with the high roof and the dome ventilation it is easy to get rid of for the most part.
@@throughoureyes5160 Yes. I am located in Kootenays BC Canada. I actually have pretty decent draw but if I use the top loading feature on my wood stove or improperly light the stove it can definitely start coming back in. I used your videos to help me install the chimney. thanks!
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information qyou were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information you were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
@@throughoureyes5160 Hi. Your stove is beautiful and has many more years of use. All stove pipes, for safety reasons, should take the shortest and fastest pathway to exit the room or house.
If the stove’s pipe exits out the back of the stove, the pipe should not change direction (such as putting putting an elbow on it) until it has exited the wall to the outside of the house. If the wall to it’s backside goes to an adjoining room, then the pipe should exit the stove, and as soon as possible/permitting be directed straight up and out the roof.
When the wood stove’s pipe exits out the back of the stove, A smoke chamber is your best remedy to solving any and all problems with back venting that causes smoke and increased levels of ash in the house, creosote buildup, and lastly, raised CO2 levels (most dangerous), the number one cause of deaths…
A smoke shelf can be used and remedy your problem, it’s hard to explain in writing. A piece of steel needs most likely be bent (shaped) and welded so as to divert the warm/hot air (fire) in which creates pull (suction). The best and easiest example of this is; bath/shower and sink drains. water comes down and out of the bottom of drain into the the pipe that goes down lower than the pipe it’s going to connect to and curves 180 degrees straight back up and then curves 90 degrees straight into the pipe that takes it… without changing and controlling the water’s/fire’s flow the sink will not drain efficiently or at all…
@@johnthree1611 I see now. Same straight pipe. Yes, just took away the 90's and added the 45's which is still think were old pipe. Are you familiar with wood stoves?
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information qyou were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information you were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information you were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
Don’t neglect the air pressure factor. If the house is airtight, it’s a good practice to crack a window on the windward side of the house.
Here is what I suggest. First.. every "draft problem" should start with going back to the basics on the entire chimney. That is 90% of what's important and gets 10% of the attention. One 3 foot "right angle" is not the problem (but it exasperated an existing problem.) The Russian stove builders draw smoke up and down 5 times for 20 feet, before it exits the chimney. They have "horizonal runs" through benches for 10 feet with NO UPWARD ANGLE, as do rocket stove makers through cob benches. A good draft can pull a horizonal run NO PROBLEM. The absolute basics are.... does your flex liner or stove pipe go all the way to the top or is part of it a brick or teracota chimney? Some people only run it up 10 feet or so. Not good. Second, is the 6 inches of the stove pipe or flex liner all the way to the top completely round and "clear?" ie... Is it bent or kinked at some point through a fireplace damper for example. Installers will do that sometimes. Most wood stoves have a "plate" or baffle at the top of the firebox that pushes smoke back toward you, and back toward the glass, and partially blocks the entrance to the chimney. You will lose heating but that's better than smoke in the room... , the baffle can be cut smaller (in some stoves, keeping the back part and removing the section that extends toward the glass) or a few holes can be cut or drilled in it so you have more smoke able to go directly up instead of pushed back at you. Finally, a fully insulated chimney solves almost all problems. A 6 inch pipe surrounded by a 8 inch or 10 inch pipe with the space between stuffed with perllite, vermiculite, or mineral wool, sometimes with the first two mixed 5 to 1 with mortar or portland cement creates a draw / draft monster.
Thank you - great comment.
Good to see you again. I would not have thought about angling the pipe. And even if I had thought of it, I'd have discounted the idea because of how I thought it would look. I am surprised to see that I do like it and think it does look better and less intrusive in the space.
Hey Gary, Good to hear from you! Thanks for commenting. We originally had a shorter horizontal run going to the chimney but after seeing old school house with the pipe run from the center of the room straight up to the ceiling and then all the way across the room and out we thought with more pipe inside this would heat better. It may have put off a little more heat but didn't put out enough to make it worth the hassle with the smoke. We are looking at changing stoves possibly... What kind of wood stove do you have?
My experience, add a fresh air intake to the stove, don't make the wood stove choke trying to get air through cracks or poor sealed door or window. For some reason wood stove sellers do not emphasize fresh air. Fire burns brighter, wood burns better and no smoke.
I built a yurt in Washington and had a diesel boat stove in it. Cool place.
Per my other comment... a very important piece I forgot. First off, in the comment that follows I assume there is a small problem. Some people are confused about wood stoves. MANY will smoke the house if the door is opened. They are meant to be operated with the door closed. MANY have a baffle that directs the smoke directly forward and "hides" the chimney hold. Of course these are going to smoke if you open the door. Who says you are supposed to be able to open the door while you have a raging fire. I agree, many who have wood stoves can do this, but if you cannot, that does not necessarily mean there is a problem. Simply build a large amount of twigs and small wood pieces before lighting so the door does not have to be opened until its only coals.
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Thank you for sharing it did help
Thanks for the upload. 👍 👍
Your welcome! What kind of stove do you have?
Nice yurt
Thanks
Your 90degree angled pipe was not your problem. Being you do not have a smoke chamber, your stove needs to have a smoke shelf. It should be just a few inches below where the fire and air from it leaves the stove fire chamber. It will increase air flow ten fold and will have no smoke coming out the load door area.
Yes the stove isnt the greatest. How did you know it didn't have a smoke chamber?
Careful with that wood being so close to the pipe.
No problems... Been doing it for years. Think it'd have to be damn near kiln dried to start up. I've measured with a thermometer gun. Doesn't get very hot at all and it gets burned before the woods ignitability temperature decreases.
I have a yurt with your previous set up and am definitely getting some smoke coming back inside. Luckily with the high roof and the dome ventilation it is easy to get rid of for the most part.
Yes for the most part... but it gets old after a while, not to mention pretty unhealthy. Where is your Yurt? Do you live in it full time?
@@throughoureyes5160 Yes. I am located in Kootenays BC Canada. I actually have pretty decent draw but if I use the top loading feature on my wood stove or improperly light the stove it can definitely start coming back in. I used your videos to help me install the chimney. thanks!
@@Rymorin4 oh sweet! You're very welcome. Always nice to hear. What kind of a yurt do you have?
@@throughoureyes5160 Yurtz by Design 28'
@@Rymorin4I'll have to check them out! Thanks. Gotta be far more cold then upstate NY. Whats the temperature average for the week?
Stovepipe, Creosote
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information qyou were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
Your yurt gonna burn down if you don't move that wood
Wind directional chimney cap will solve the issue
Have a link by chance?
I've turned mine in every direction. Doesn't stop the smoke into the cabin@@throughoureyes5160
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information you were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
"do that" are you talking about the diagonal pipe or right angle pipe. Which one is the wrong way?
@@throughoureyes5160 Hi. Your stove is beautiful and has many more years of use.
All stove pipes, for safety reasons, should take the shortest and fastest pathway to exit the room or house.
If the stove’s pipe exits out the back of the stove, the pipe should not change direction (such as putting putting an elbow on it) until it has exited the wall to the outside of the house. If the wall to it’s backside goes to an adjoining room, then the pipe should exit the stove, and as soon as possible/permitting be directed straight up and out the roof.
When the wood stove’s pipe exits out the back of the stove, A smoke chamber is your best remedy to solving any and all problems with back venting that causes smoke and increased levels of ash in the house, creosote buildup, and lastly, raised CO2 levels (most dangerous), the number one cause of deaths…
A smoke shelf can be used and remedy your problem, it’s hard to explain in writing. A piece of steel needs most likely be bent (shaped) and welded so as to divert the warm/hot air (fire) in which creates pull (suction). The best and easiest example of this is; bath/shower and sink drains. water comes down and out of the bottom of drain into the the pipe that goes down lower than the pipe it’s going to connect to and curves 180 degrees straight back up and then curves 90 degrees straight into the pipe that takes it… without changing and controlling the water’s/fire’s flow the sink will not drain efficiently or at all…
Sounds like poor venting, was causing the smoke to backup into the home.
The old pipe looked terrible.
Any suggestions?
@@johnthree1611 Which old pipe? It's the same pipe. haha
@@throughoureyes5160 , You said that you have I believe it was two 90's before, and now it's straight, but angled.
@@johnthree1611 I see now. Same straight pipe. Yes, just took away the 90's and added the 45's which is still think were old pipe. Are you familiar with wood stoves?
But who wants their wood stove in the middle of your room and it cutting off a side of your house.
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The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information qyou were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
About the original pipe?
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information you were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
The internet is never what’s needed by people in need. But the information you were told by whomever said to do that to your stove pipe’s pathway, is someone who is giving advice when they know not what they are talking about.
How many times you going to say that?