The Greatest Marvel Hero No One Remembers
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Marvel's Crusader is the unsung hero of Secret Invasion and it's a real shame that he met a tragic end.
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Drake didn't mention it here because it wasn't relevant to the video, but the whole Freedom Ring thing was very controversial at the time. You see, Freedom Ring was Gay, and he was one of the first Marvel superheroes to be openly so. For this reason, while his first appearances were still being published, Joe Quesada (Marvel's editor-in-chief at the time) promoted him as the company's main LGBTQ+ hero. The problem is, Kirkman was planning to write a hero who would die quickly due to lack of experience first, and he never had any bad intentions, but seeing the supposed "flagship Gay character" die unceremoniously was pretty shocking to a lot of people. Years later, Kirkman stated that if he could rewrite Marvel Team-Up he would not have killed Freedom Ring, since at the time he wrote the story he did not realize how few gay characters there were in mainstream comics. .
Thank you so much for detailing that out. It was kind of difficult to squeeze in because the video is ultimately about Crusader and not Freedom Ring, but this is definitely something that I want to talk about in future. Robert Kirkman and/or Joe Quesada deep dives.
Thank you for pointing that out
@@ComicDrake No problem! I've talked about it a few times on Twitter already, so I know the story by heart.
As for in which video you could talk about Freedom Ring, perhaps a general retrospective of LGBTQ+ characters in Marvel would be a good place, especially to see how far we've come, from Arnie Roth to Aaron Fischer.
Thanks to the 2022 Secret Invasion book we know that some Skrulls work for Maria Hill to protect the Earth, so Crusader might appear working for her down the line
Betrayal is such a sad thing. Zarreg killing his friend actually made me quite sad.
One anime has a child get abandoned by their only source of acknowledgement :( thankfully an other awkward kid likes her
gotta love betrayal
SPOILERS!
@@senritsujumpsuit6021what a vague comment
@@protalghulnist4126 well do u want spoilers :p
@@senritsujumpsuit6021what anime is it
This is wild because I was literally thinking about this guy just two days ago. I have no idea why but of nowhere I just found myself going "Huh, did they ever resolve that whole thing about Crusader disappearing at the end of that book?"
that moment you realize your a nerd :)
Huh, always odd to see UA-camrs I watch commenting on other videos
Ay a crossover! Lookin' forward to Part 2 of the Street Fighter Retrospective!
@ThorgisArcade… Professor Thorgi?!!!
I'd be curious to see if they bring Zarreg/Crusader into the MCU for the Secret Invasion show they have going on right now on Disney Plus, might be a good way to reintroduce the character before bringing him back in the comics or whatever.
that would be a really interesting way of granting his last wish. allowing things to truly end differently!
Unfortunately that didn't happen.
THIS is a character that needs a comeback. Never heard of him before but I loved this story. Hope all the current Skrull hype gets this guy a return!
Maybe the Nick Fury Tonal thing was an attempt to show his denial turning into anger? Sort of like a bitter acceptance trying to tell himself and the world he made the right choice. Before returning to bargaining when hes questioning himself and is feeling more guilt about the choices surrounding his decision
Holy hell… what a compelling character! This is what I love about comics and this channel, always discovering something new
I had no idea that Crusader teleported away at the end because I haven't read that issue since it came out; hopefully he'll be back someday
It somewhat reminds me of the "Lost Decade" story, with the Skrull hero Effigy. The original 3D-Man was one of my favorite characters, and Morrison's OG Skrull Kill Krew was pretty good. Thanks, Drake! This was pretty cool.
Tbh the freedom ring story was what got me into comics so this video gives me a weird nostalgic feeling thanks drake for reminding me about this long forgotten story
This is perfect for an "Invincible"-esque animated series adaptation. I'd love to watch a couple of seasons of the Freedom Ring and Zarreg teamup.
Thank you Comic Drake for partially covering The Initiative; it’s a great book that doesn’t get talked about nearly enough.
the most tragic thing about this is probably that the nature of the skrull invasion would make it impossible for anyone to trust a known skrull, so him coming out would have possible ended worse than just a quick death
he was forced to come out to save everyone because of the toxin which was harmless to skrulls everyonethere found out he was a skrull
thats why everyone hated 3d man for murdering him
I'd absolutely love if this kind of character is shown in the Secret invasion show. A Skrull conflicted with wanting to help Earth. Being here so long inspired by witnessing so many heroes and something like the Avengers forming. Yet still feeling a pride a love for his people and planet, just so against their plans what some stand for now.
Dude, thank you. I recall reading this like a while ago and being quite moved by it and def felt that more ppl need to know about it, and you addressed it with the gravitas and nuance it needed. Such a tragic character and story but hits just right. Kudos to you for shining a light on the obscure greatness out there in comics.
This was so well-written and sad. F for Z'Reg. A true hero.
Love The inititave so thanks for talking about it, Camp hammond & the 50 state initive is still one of my favourite plot threads and im sad that we didnt get to have a good look at alot of the teams.
I do like these kind of videos because I think it's needed in the current landscape of readership of comics but in particular the long serialized stories of Marvel and DC. There's just a toss up of what can actually be good and I think the greatness of these two publishers come from the hidden gems in between the big and bombastic stories because it kind of reflects the type of realness in a way that in the thick of a larger story, there are other lifes playing their own role within their own story.
Important more so because the content of comics in social media is more about vitriol and summary of facts than actually talking about the interesting stuff within these comics.
Crusader's story from Secret Invasion lives rent free in my mind.
I always thought that Crusader getting murdered mid catharsis and 3D Man's blaise reaction of ". . . What?" was an apt metaphor for marvel editorial's disdain for new characters
Especially Skrulls
You're one of the only you tubers to Acknowledge the Initiative series. Its really one of my favorites! I have every issue along with the specials. never bought the trades because I've never needed to! So happy to see someone else show it love! some it not the best Secret Invasion tie Ins!
I loved that story line. Not everything about that run worked, but that character definitely did. I didn’t know the Marvel Team Up connection.
I remember Crusader. Screw Triathlon for what he did to him.
As close to a Mar-Vell heel turn as they will likely ever do for a Skrull.
Could be interesting if he rewritten reality so he would be the human he dreamed of being
What would he do in that case because it likely won't just be starting from newborn
@@senritsujumpsuit6021probably just living his life in world that care for him more
I love this channel! Really cool getting these quick dives into cool comic characters
0:42 was smooth editing
Have you read the whole black hammer saga? I genuinely think that series/univers has some of the most genuinely brilliant comics analysis and deconstruction ever done and a ton of beautiful storytelling obvs, id love to hear ur thoughts on that work some day.
I’m surprised you didn’t point out the similarities between Crusader and Kirkman’s other character Shapesmith. In many ways, they follow similar storybeats and have essentially the same general concept
This guy needs to come back seriously love to see him in the Mcu what a compellingly Awesome story ! ✅
In the mean marvel universe there was A time of superheroes in the al Capone times
Great vid!!!
A few years ago I had had read (some of) the back issues for part of this story that I was given. I read most of the parts with 3D Man and Crusader, but I didn't have all of this context and backstory to put it all together. It definitely completely changes how I see Crusader. It'd be pretty cool if they would bring him back and continue his story from where it ended. The character has a LOT of potential that can be exploited without relying on all of the overused tropes.
EDIT: ...without what I just learned here I saw him like 3D Man did - I thought Crusader actually was a Skrull spy and therefore the enemy 🙀
That ending upset me almost as much as your opinion on Red Vines.
I remember reading the comic where Freedom Ring died and the Skrull mentor/sidekick/whatever took off with the ring, but I never read the Avengers Initiative comic series, so I didn't know about the Crusader. Thanks for enlightening me on this character. I now have some back issues to track down!
Basically, he became much like Mar-vell.
That, was surprisingly good
I loved the Avengers Initiative Series. It's still among one of my all time favourites. Crusader was one of the great characters there. I never knew about the Marvel Team up with Crusader. I'll have to hunt that issue down now.
I always wanted a writer to follow up on Crusader for what happened after he disappeared.
It's too bad Avengers Initiative isn't talked about since it was full of great new characters that will likely never show up again. I'd definitely buy a book that brought back characters like Cloud 9, Trauma, Ultra girl, Komodo, Hardball and others. At least Slott's FF run brought wrapped up things with Gauntlet and the Tactigon. That was nice to see. Someone needs to follow up on MVP and the device that Slapstick had with his mind in it. That was a great story. Things are pretty rough over at Marvel right now actually. Aside from Daredevil and Captain Marvel (which is now over anyway) there's not much I've enjoyed for a while.
Stuff like this is why I love your channel!
6:00 Speaking of, could you do a breakdown of what the 50 teams were? I have tried looking into it, to little avail. It could even be a short.
I feel like I've seen a recent movie with a magic ring found on the street. Luck had something to do with it. A girl had bad luck until she possessed the ring, you know, jelly side down when she dropped her toast.
Question about the sponser site, will it end up that a chunk of them require personal info?
Amazing video as always bro!
Hold up now…did Drake just diss Red Vines? The most glorious candy known to man? 😮
it taste like ass
Interesting character. Great vid.
i'm happy that my boy 3-D Man got a mention! i would love to see a vid on him one day, he's a lesser known character that i'm obsessed with
Awesome video, damn good character. Slott was doing his thing back in the day
Dude I love the shit you add in your videos 😂
00:53 wtf you wearing on the TV? 😂
And the strawberry and pickles 🤣
Love the sense of humour
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I totally forgot this character from team up, I got to go back and reread that whole run someday (loved how epic it got in the end). Interesting to see where they went with him, I completely skipped the initiative stuff at that time but it seems like it added some interesting depth to secret invasion
@@Comicsdrake huh?
@@marvelmite1seems like a poser
I know for a fact that at one point Johnny Storm married a Skrull and had a kid with her. I don’t know if that’s still canon or not
Hey Comic Drake! First of all, I’m a huge fan of your videos, so I want to see if you could probably make an in-depth video of how they screwed over Ben Reilly, the Scarlet Spider, and how comics turned him into the Devil. I’m not joking-I really wanna see a video of this, and yes, Ben Reilly did take over Limbo, which is conceptually hell.
what a great story
love how it started with just "hey neighbour you wanna team up as superheroes"
That was a beautiful ending man. Thank you for showing me this.
Crusader sounds really cool!!!
Jazinda and Lyja and K'lrt are my favorite Skrull characters. Never knew Zarreg
Minus the crack at my favorite licorice, this is another great vid, Drake.
This sounds like a great read! Much better than the mess the secret invasion show is trying to tell!
Freedom ring is so good 😭
I would like if Crusader returns and takes on 3-D Man, especially when he joined AIM. Something like he was put in the Freedom Ring's dimension to heal and see all of his old friends
Now talk about Marvel's most tragic villain, Guitar Johnny, who appeared in the same run as Crusader over here.
That ending jeez
Great vid bro.😺
Captain Vietnam is underrated.
You should make a video on Cardiac
This whole story is really neat
I read the Initiative and really enjoyed Crusader! Although I always kept waiting for him to come back 😅
It would be nice to see new stories starring this Skrull hero
i love learning about obscure characters I also love you mug whats logo on it?
[vid idea what if you do i video where you talk about the worst deaths in comics like how kamala khan was killed in a spider man book or some thing] also i just want to mention that robert kirkman is making a new series where transfomers is going to be a part of it and also G I JOE i think
Marvel should start writing characters more like this tbh.
Red vines is the worst u earned urself a sub lol
I really thought this was gonna be about forgetmenot
What did you say first that you dubbed the Ipsos name over? I am very curious
He looks so badass he needs to return And appear in the Mcu
He might've created a alternate timeline or something like that
Hey you should do a video on Hobie Brown in the comics. Would really like people to learn about the og Prowler and Hobie Brown as spider-punk.
Was there a particular reason he had to get killed off so uncerimoniously?
I mean, i get his death made sense narratively, but surely they could have made it a bigger moment if the character was even vaguely important in the event, right?
Or just have him die fighting Pym
I think it's supposed to be a sudden thing to shock us rather than being a slow but predictable death.
It has a certain vicerality to it. He lived in fear that his secret getting revealed would result in disaster and unfortunately he was proven right.
It's a gut punch because he was a paragon of good yet still a victim of other's paranoia, in-outgroup thinking and vigilantism. It can be viewed as a cautionary tale of the dangers and immorality of such things.
As a reader: we are inclined to think that "good deeds will not go unrewarded" but the story shoots our idealistic escapism down thus emphasising the horror in the mindset and actions of the murderer.
I don't know if what I speak of was the intent but it paints a damning characterization of 3d man by the subverting of reader expectations (something that's often done just because but works really well here imo. It serves a narrative purpose)
Humans are douchebags to aliens@@ribstein7714
That edit in the beginning threw me off did you pronounce it"eyepso eyesay" and dunn the correct pronunciation?? Gold man gold
2:09 is that the botw menu scrolling sound effect?
When I saw the thumbnail I thought you were referring to Freedom Ring
I'm curious, can you do a video about mutant genetics? Does it work by just a lottery system, or does two mutants... doing the deed, cause some influence in what power they get? I'm really curious.
Nice
I think he would look cool with his suit in Avril form
i hope he comes back
7:59 *gasp* DRAKE'S A SKRULL!!!!!
8:02 Wait, nevermind...
If the MCU was onto something, this would've been a great candidate for the Secret Invasion...
7:47
couldnt freedumb ring just manifest a brick inside someone's head?
Wow, he really is kinda interesting and I’d love to see him come back!
~_~
Cool, a character that came, and went. Nothing wrong with that. I would agree he needs to return, but the Freedom Ring/Crusader Ring could and create a new Crusader
Is that evil Iron Man, Iron Maniac?
This is how they should fix mcu Gaia by giving her the freedom ring and making her Crusader!
WTF?? JUSTICE FOR CRUSADER!!!! AND I'M BEING SERIOUS!
It took me a second to get freedom ring = free dumb ring... i love it lol
I don't know why but I love Texas Twister
Man, xenophobia in the marvel universe was heavy in the late 2000s. Especially to the "evil empire" alien races.
He talks about comic books and his name is Drake! I miss your uploads
I haven't gone anywhere.
Red Vines are dope tho, what do you have against ropes of sugary faux-fruit wax.
I loved the The Initiative comic, but felt it got bogged down by too many crossover events too close to each other.