Thank you for the kind words! I originally made this video to show the details of these scooters. There was little information about them, at the time. I'm glad I can still share something good with people. 👍
Man genuine scooter company puts out top notch scoots for the price I have a 2007 buddy 125 and a 2008 rattler 110cc I will have a Stella I promise someday
I have one just like it. Or at least it was just like it. I debadged it, except for the speedo, replaced the black seat with a brown one, replaced the blackwall tires with wide whitewalls, removed the plastic oil catch pan under the engine (no Vespa ever came with one of those) and the gray plastic spare tire cover, the starter switch fell off during the first week, I rewired the kill switch to be the starter switch, then a few months later the stator failed, and when I replaced it I removed the electric starter altogether, put it in a box, and put it in the closet. It is now kick start only. The gas gauge no longer works. I traced the problem to the sending unit. Probably ethanol gas destroyed it. I just use the odometer. I also replaced the cat con exhaust with an aftermarket P series Vespa exhaust, and rejetted the carburetor. I now have over 14K miles on it, and except for the stator, starter switch, and gas gauge, I've had no problems with it. It rides just like a real vintage Vespa, and P series Vespa parts fit it. These are wonderful scooters.
Thank you! It's actually identical to the Vespa PX 150 in many many ways. For the most part, it's the same exact scooter, made in the same exact factory, but under a different name since Vespa dropped the PX 150 model some time ago. It is also known as the LML Star.
I will be picking up my 2008 150 Mod Stella up in late April. Stella Rose is red..and has a crap ton of mirrors/lights e.g Mod. I can't wait to get her home. Yours is super sweet!
It's been a good bike aside from the issues I've been having with the bearing race on the crank. It's not a super expensive fix, but it's a pretty in-depth repair process to replace the crank. The Genuine bikes are actually made by Linhai Motors of India, now known as LML. I'm not sure about any factories in Brazil.
I haven't had time or patience enough to finish replacing the crankshaft. I'm about half way into the motor right now and from what I hear, it's a lot of work to replace the crank. Aside from that, I can tell you this. If you get a 2T Stella, don't run it at wide open throttle for very long. Don't ask it to take you over 45 mph for very long. Try not to ride it on the highway. Keep an eye on your oil level, but don't overfill it or it'll leak everywhere. Buy a few spare battery straps.
So far, it's been rough. It's a great bike overall, but I laid it over at one point. It's got some body damage, but I was able to straighten out the front wheel and ride it home. Aside from that, it did seize recently at about 2,000 mi. on the nose. From what I have found, this is a chronic issue with the two-stroke Stella. The bottom bearing race on the connecting rod wears out and causes the engine to seize. I was told about 1 in 4 Stellas eventually has this problem.
Awesome video! I'm saving for a 2T Stella right now! Hate to hear about your accident and the problem with the bearing race, that sucks! But I'd like to know more about your experience with the bike since then.
i just got my used 2005 one today, and man is it awkward to ride when im used to the left lever being the brake, it is now the clutch, but man it does have get up and go !!
Thanks for the walk around. Looking to trade my bike for one and wanted to find out where the gear shift is and to see if there was any storage. Thanks for the look. still sounds like a chainsaw under a pillow.
The Genuine is actually not running at the moment. Turns out there's a problem with the bearing race on the bottom of the connecting rod. From what I've discovered, this is a chronic issue with the Stella 2T and it causes the engine to seize in most cases. The crank must be replaced at this point, and probably the piston and rings.
This is as close to the original Vespa as you will ever find. Back in the 80's a bicycle company named Caloi (São Paulo, Brazil) bought manufacturing rights for this unit and my sister purchased one. They did make it 200cc 2 stroke instead of 150cc. I rode it a lot and loved it. I have wanted one since. I may just get one. I use to do fourth gear wheelies on the damn thing! :) Thanks for the video. Maybe post your ownership experience so far? Reliability?
Took some skin off the heels of my hands because I was stupid and didn't put my gloves back on. Also probably fractured something in both hands near the base of the thumb. Still hurts off and on, but I have full motion. Lucky I had my padded riding jacket on. Has foam "armor" built it and saved me from a broken collarbone and possibly dislocated or broken shoulder. Ouch! I rode home. It was lame.
Mark Tracy I'm about six feet tall and there are times I think maybe it's a little small but it's really not bad. If your legs get cramped, just take a break and walk around! There are aftermarket seats and foot pegs to alleviate your pains too, so that's always an option for taller folks.
Nope! I took it on a really long ride and basically had it wound out the whole time and the lower con rod bearing gave out. I did end up rebuilding it with an aftermarket crank though and it ran so well after that. Sold it just a few years ago and I still sometimes miss it.
Hi Prancer, Do you like your stella? has it it been pretty reliable? I'm thinking about buying one, but on the fence between this at Vespa GTS300. I want the two stroke one. Found some in my area around 2000 what are your thoughts?
I'm so sorry for taking almost a year to respond! I like it a lot but the 2-stroke was less than stellar for reliability. I'm sure by now you've found the right scoot for you, but I thought it would be poignant to say I would go with a 4-stroke for reliability, and a 2-stroke if you just prefer them.
I reccomand all of you to buy LML star above the vespa piaggio 2012. Because Piaggio is playing smart buying of LML Stars 2S and rebabtise them Vespa PX (they attach theyr own logo's on it) and sell it 1500 Euro more expensive than the star. I was one of the victims of the Piaggio Vespa scam
A lot of people think the Stella is a fake Vespa. They were made by the same company that built the Vespa, in the same factory in India. Piaggio (Vespa) signed a contract with Linhai Motors (LML) to build their P series scooters. When they stopped making the P series, LML agreed to keep making the scooter but sell it under a different name (LML Star, and later Genuine Stella for the U.S. imported models.) A lot of Italian scooter fans like to talk down at the Stella for some reason but it's a good scooter and comparable to the old P series Vespa scooters. Also, it's only available in an automatic 4-cycle variant now, as far as I know.
@@BlackthorneBuilds yes stupid people like automatic scooter no gear and I love gear specially on my left hand I have 3 scooters lml vespa nv, bajaj super 6volt scooter and bajaj priya and 3 new generation motorbikes but I still love old scooters
"look at those mirrors shake" Yeah, if you've ever owned a scoot like this you know the only time the mirrors are useful is when you're moving and the engine is at high RPMs. At a stoplight you can't see anything LOLOLOL
Genuine won the lawsuit. Guess it doesn't matter anyhow because they stopped making the 2-stroke and the manual. Now it's all 4-stroke auto, which is fast but lame and less fun.
It runs really well, honestly. I did replace the crankshaft after a particularly long and arduous ride, but that's been the only hiccup. The bottom race on the connecting rod had excessive wear but it was my own fault. I havent kept the battery charged so now I just kick start it and it runs perfectly. It's an amazing scooter.
Wow after 10 years back I am seeing this super video
Thank you for the kind words! I originally made this video to show the details of these scooters. There was little information about them, at the time. I'm glad I can still share something good with people. 👍
@@BlackthorneBuilds i have my 1990 model bajaj 150cc sctoor
Man genuine scooter company puts out top notch scoots for the price I have a 2007 buddy 125 and a 2008 rattler 110cc I will have a Stella I promise someday
Beautiful!
I have one just like it. Or at least it was just like it. I debadged it, except for the speedo, replaced the black seat with a brown one, replaced the blackwall tires with wide whitewalls, removed the plastic oil catch pan under the engine (no Vespa ever came with one of those) and the gray plastic spare tire cover, the starter switch fell off during the first week, I rewired the kill switch to be the starter switch, then a few months later the stator failed, and when I replaced it I removed the electric starter altogether, put it in a box, and put it in the closet. It is now kick start only. The gas gauge no longer works. I traced the problem to the sending unit. Probably ethanol gas destroyed it. I just use the odometer. I also replaced the cat con exhaust with an aftermarket P series Vespa exhaust, and rejetted the carburetor. I now have over 14K miles on it, and except for the stator, starter switch, and gas gauge, I've had no problems with it. It rides just like a real vintage Vespa, and P series Vespa parts fit it. These are wonderful scooters.
Love these bikes....beautiful color.
Thank you! It's actually identical to the Vespa PX 150 in many many ways. For the most part, it's the same exact scooter, made in the same exact factory, but under a different name since Vespa dropped the PX 150 model some time ago. It is also known as the LML Star.
Love the color of the bike.
Awesome. I cannot wait to get one.
I will be picking up my 2008 150 Mod Stella up in late April. Stella Rose is red..and has a crap ton of mirrors/lights e.g Mod. I can't wait to get her home. Yours is super sweet!
Nice scooter, cool. Thanks for sharing and good continuation 😀👍👊
Very thorough, thank you!
Great video ! I like it !! I have just bought the same bike , model year 2009, with 13.000 km on the odometer and works well
That spring inside the glove box helps you to keep the tool pouch at one place, so as to avoid any dangling noise.
Thank you!
Great scooter! Great vid too!
It's been a good bike aside from the issues I've been having with the bearing race on the crank. It's not a super expensive fix, but it's a pretty in-depth repair process to replace the crank.
The Genuine bikes are actually made by Linhai Motors of India, now known as LML. I'm not sure about any factories in Brazil.
I haven't had time or patience enough to finish replacing the crankshaft. I'm about half way into the motor right now and from what I hear, it's a lot of work to replace the crank. Aside from that, I can tell you this. If you get a 2T Stella, don't run it at wide open throttle for very long. Don't ask it to take you over 45 mph for very long. Try not to ride it on the highway. Keep an eye on your oil level, but don't overfill it or it'll leak everywhere. Buy a few spare battery straps.
Probably the last year of two stroke px clones. Really nice scoot!
Very nice.
So far, it's been rough. It's a great bike overall, but I laid it over at one point. It's got some body damage, but I was able to straighten out the front wheel and ride it home.
Aside from that, it did seize recently at about 2,000 mi. on the nose. From what I have found, this is a chronic issue with the two-stroke Stella. The bottom bearing race on the connecting rod wears out and causes the engine to seize. I was told about 1 in 4 Stellas eventually has this problem.
It`s almost identical to a Vespa. Gorgeous
Vespa sold that company to genuine
It's actually manufactured by LML and imported by Geniune.
Beautiful scooter $$$
Awesome video! I'm saving for a 2T Stella right now! Hate to hear about your accident and the problem with the bearing race, that sucks! But I'd like to know more about your experience with the bike since then.
The spring in the glove box lets you stow the toolkit and keeps it from rattlin' around in there. Swell video.
nicely explained.. :)
i just got my used 2005 one today, and man is it awkward to ride when im used to the left lever being the brake, it is now the clutch, but man it does have get up and go !!
@KingFosso Hah! Who woulda thought. Now I know. Thanks!
I gotta say this scooter is the beezneez best scooter i seen to date the color is ok.
I need to do a better video of it now that I've ridden it some more. Stay tuned!
Thanks for the walk around. Looking to trade my bike for one and wanted to find out where the gear shift is and to see if there was any storage. Thanks for the look. still sounds like a chainsaw under a pillow.
The Genuine is actually not running at the moment. Turns out there's a problem with the bearing race on the bottom of the connecting rod. From what I've discovered, this is a chronic issue with the Stella 2T and it causes the engine to seize in most cases. The crank must be replaced at this point, and probably the piston and rings.
Sweet ride! Thanks for taking the cover off, 2strokes rule....Hey one year later how is it??
The spring in the glove box is to hold your quart of oil from tipping over and leaking everywhere.
Not a bad idea, but the reservoir seemed to hold plenty. I only ever topped off the oil at home before a ride.
I wish I bought one (the two stroke version) new, while they were still being made
@stellaspeed10 It came from ScooterWorks!
and if you have any questions about specific things, feel free to message me or reply here!
In retrospect, I could have edited a lot out of this, but it's a good look at the bike for anyone who might be interested in buying one.
This is as close to the original Vespa as you will ever find. Back in the 80's a bicycle company named Caloi (São Paulo, Brazil) bought manufacturing rights for this unit and my sister purchased one. They did make it 200cc 2 stroke instead of 150cc. I rode it a lot and loved it. I have wanted one since. I may just get one. I use to do fourth gear wheelies on the damn thing! :) Thanks for the video. Maybe post your ownership experience so far? Reliability?
How did you get it in US? and How much were it?
Took some skin off the heels of my hands because I was stupid and didn't put my gloves back on. Also probably fractured something in both hands near the base of the thumb. Still hurts off and on, but I have full motion. Lucky I had my padded riding jacket on. Has foam "armor" built it and saved me from a broken collarbone and possibly dislocated or broken shoulder. Ouch! I rode home. It was lame.
They sell them in the U.S. at authorized Genuine dealerships.
I want this
Dang that's too bad, thats a sweet ride. Did you get hurt when it went down?
About the spring in the "glove box", I tuck my tool bag behind it.
+mike hurley Me too, that's why it's there.
Yep, that`s to hold up the tool bag to keep it upright to keep it in place whilst riding
Hi is it automatic or manual
After 8 years, how's it running?
Does it have the "heavy on the engine side" feel, even with the spare?
¸No, it`s not noticible
in what country was this motorcycle made?
Oh well. It was fine!
If you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? I'm interested in them but afraid I'm too tall.
Mark Tracy I'm about six feet tall and there are times I think maybe it's a little small but it's really not bad. If your legs get cramped, just take a break and walk around! There are aftermarket seats and foot pegs to alleviate your pains too, so that's always an option for taller folks.
P_Blackthorne Thanks. I'm 6-1, so will try one out for size. Great video.
Did the crank
Survive they were terrible on the early ones .
Nope! I took it on a really long ride and basically had it wound out the whole time and the lower con rod bearing gave out. I did end up rebuilding it with an aftermarket crank though and it ran so well after that. Sold it just a few years ago and I still sometimes miss it.
Hi Prancer,
Do you like your stella? has it it been pretty reliable? I'm thinking about buying one, but on the fence between this at Vespa GTS300. I want the two stroke one. Found some in my area around 2000 what are your thoughts?
I'm so sorry for taking almost a year to respond! I like it a lot but the 2-stroke was less than stellar for reliability. I'm sure by now you've found the right scoot for you, but I thought it would be poignant to say I would go with a 4-stroke for reliability, and a 2-stroke if you just prefer them.
How do I know what horse power I have? And what year I have? There must be a name plate some where.
I believe the nameplate is inside the glovebox on the leg shield. I sold this scooter last year so I cant confirm that for you.
I reccomand all of you to buy LML star above the vespa piaggio 2012.
Because Piaggio is playing smart buying of LML Stars 2S and rebabtise them Vespa PX (they attach theyr own logo's on it)
and sell it 1500 Euro more expensive than the star.
I was one of the victims of the Piaggio Vespa scam
you still have it?
Unfortunately I sold it last year. It was still a super great ride! Reliable and solid. Just needed room for other things, ya know?
what do you mean genuine stella ?is fake also avalable?
A lot of people think the Stella is a fake Vespa. They were made by the same company that built the Vespa, in the same factory in India. Piaggio (Vespa) signed a contract with Linhai Motors (LML) to build their P series scooters. When they stopped making the P series, LML agreed to keep making the scooter but sell it under a different name (LML Star, and later Genuine Stella for the U.S. imported models.)
A lot of Italian scooter fans like to talk down at the Stella for some reason but it's a good scooter and comparable to the old P series Vespa scooters.
Also, it's only available in an automatic 4-cycle variant now, as far as I know.
@@BlackthorneBuilds yes I know lml very old brand but Its shut down now very sad
@@vsk6008 I didn't know they shut down. That's very sad indeed!
@@BlackthorneBuilds yes stupid people like automatic scooter no gear and I love gear specially on my left hand I have 3 scooters lml vespa nv, bajaj super 6volt scooter and bajaj priya and 3 new generation motorbikes but I still love old scooters
@@BlackthorneBuilds please subscribe me
"look at those mirrors shake"
Yeah, if you've ever owned a scoot like this you know the only time the mirrors are useful is when you're moving and the engine is at high RPMs. At a stoplight you can't see anything LOLOLOL
it's an indian px
+Gabriele Benini All of the PX bikes were built in India by the same manufacturer. Linhai Motors.
Where showroom
I don't know, honestly. The last time I saw one in a showroom was years ago when I bought mine, which I have since sold.
LML BRAND IN INDIA
Yes, the same company that built the Vespa P series back in the day. 👍
Sale again
What happened to thee drum brakes... Kick the lever ... Excuse me
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Wow that sucks
not as pretty as mine lol
non e piaggio,non e originale
...and so what? Its the same practically
Genuine won the lawsuit. Guess it doesn't matter anyhow because they stopped making the 2-stroke and the manual. Now it's all 4-stroke auto, which is fast but lame and less fun.
After 8 years, how's it running?
It runs really well, honestly. I did replace the crankshaft after a particularly long and arduous ride, but that's been the only hiccup. The bottom race on the connecting rod had excessive wear but it was my own fault.
I havent kept the battery charged so now I just kick start it and it runs perfectly. It's an amazing scooter.
@@BlackthorneBuilds TBH, that's great. Are spares readily available?
@@AmolAmrit Definitely. There are lots of parts available online.
@@BlackthorneBuilds Thanks man.
I have a 1991 LML model.
@@AmolAmrit Nice! They're some great machines.