My First Led Zeppelin Albums

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  • @markspooner1224
    @markspooner1224 19 днів тому +3

    I first became aware of Zeppelin through Top of the Pops, not that they ever appeared on the show but from 1970-1981 the CCS (Alexis Korner's band) version of Whole Lotta Love was the theme tune. Which led many of us to Zeppelin and I've been a big fan ever since.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому +1

      Wow Mark that's an interesting link - from Alexis Korner cover version - I have not heard that. True though - Zeppelin not on Top Of The Pops, nor any music TV shows here - like Don KIirschner etc. They were so "mysterious" back then and it worked wonders.

    • @carybenjaminportway
      @carybenjaminportway 17 днів тому

      I too associate Whole Lotta Love with Top of the Pops. To this day, I think of the psychedelic graphics it accompanied. Funny thing is I never knew it wasn't the Led Zep original, so cheers for that!

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому

      @@carybenjaminportway such a great story I never knew about that regarding Whole Lotta Love and TOTP. Interesting

    • @markspooner1224
      @markspooner1224 17 днів тому +2

      @@carybenjaminportway That's because they only played the bit that sounded most like Zeppelin, it's also got flute and horns.

  • @carybenjaminportway
    @carybenjaminportway 18 днів тому +1

    Another great video Alan, and a great concept for a series. Looking forwards to more! Physical Graffiti is my fave, such a classic. I don't know how often you make it to the East Village, but if you've visited in the past few years you may have noticed the business that now occupies the shopfront on the lower right, a tea shop called... wait for it... Physical Graffi-tea!
    Also, did you know it's the same building where the Stones filmed the Waiting on a Friend video? Mick is standing in the doorway waiting on his friend Keith. They then go to what was St Marks Bar and Grille on the corner where they join the rest of the band. What a great tribute from the Stones to Zep. And between the two, one of the great classic rock and roll locations in NYC!

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому +1

      @@carybenjaminportway thanks so much as always. I know it well. Twice a year I make a pilgrimage and also hit that little bookstore directly across the street. It is really cool. I always take a picture of the building. Genius whoever came up with that album cover concept.

    • @carybenjaminportway
      @carybenjaminportway 17 днів тому

      Alan, I cannot believe you mentioned that bookshop over the road. I have a funny story to tell. One time I was there and found a cool boxset of George Harrison's soundtrack from Wonderwall. It had a 7" ep and a book set into a bespoke box with some seriously psychedelic artwork. It also had a surprise bonus hidden under the book in the bottom of the box - $1000 in cash! Fifties and hundreds, which I'm sure was drug money stashed in there in the 60s and then, incredibly, forgotten. Thirty years later discovered by yours truly!
      On a related note, you may recall the used record shop Free Being a couple blocks away. I bought Led Zeppelin IV, with the gatefold cover. Well, when I opened the cover, wedged into the interior spine was a nice fat joint!
      It's amazing to think the E-Vil was once a den of drugs and debauchery - which benefitted me greatly, lol. Ah, the good old days.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому +1

      @@carybenjaminportway I love that store. Find some really cool CDs and books. But never found anything like you found. Lol. Seriously that Harrison story is the best ever. That’s straight out of a movie. Lol. Thanks for sharing. Big smile on my face

  • @chrisboerger465
    @chrisboerger465 18 днів тому +2

    Zeppelin were my first favorite band, and remain one of my favorites to this day. My brothers had, I believe, Zep II and Physical Graffiti before I bought my first Zeppelin album, the debut, which I played into the ground. Houses and IV were next I believe. My brothers liked them, but I was the only Zeppelin fanatic in the house. Well, except for Physical Graffiti. My one brother and I went to the same high school, and everyone at that school loved Physical Graffiti, or FIzz Graph as we referred to it, and it was constantly in the car stereos of whomever was driving us back and forth. To this day it's one of my top albums of all time, same with my brother. He credits a lot of their brilliance to Page's production, and I have to agree. As my brother says, nobody understands rock and roll quite like Jimmy Page, who had a vision of how the music was supposed to sound and had the studio ingenuity to make it reality. Take the opening of When the Levee Breaks. Not to take anything away from Bonham, but that mammoth and menacing drum sound owes as much to Page's vision as it does to Bonzo's inestimable talents. So I really appreciate you mentioning how valuable his production is to their success. Another fine video!

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +2

      Thanks so much Chris. It's funny, as I was doing it live, I was thinking should I go more into Page's production. I'm with you and your brother entirely. Obviously he was a great guitarist and magical songwriter with Plant. But to me his real forte is production. All the Zeppelin albums always sounded great and powerful. So may guitar layers, I can't imagine how many overdubs are on those tracks. Yet sound seamless. Which is why, often times when you listen to true Zeppelin bootlegs live, the guitar is often so sloppy, with tons of missed notes etc. No human really could re-create all that sound live. The official Zeppelin live albums are very much overdubbed and fixed (not that I have a problem with that - most live albums are - even The Band on The Last Waltz is virtually a studio re-creation....anyway... I'm rambling on. Thanks as always.

  • @Larrybabbin1957
    @Larrybabbin1957 17 днів тому +1

    I bought every one on release day except the first one which I bought after II. Hearing whole Lotta Love blew me away and II is still my favorite.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому +1

      That's awesome Larry that you were there in the beginning and buying each release when first release. II must've been a mind blowing experience for sure. And to me there's tremendous growth from I to II. Yea in it's time II really must've blown heads.

    • @Larrybabbin1957
      @Larrybabbin1957 17 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow Yeah I was 12 when I heard Whole Lotta Love a day or two before the release on my local FM station. When asked what album changed my musical life I point to Led Zeppelin II. What do 12 year olds buy in 2024 LOL??!!

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому +1

      @@Larrybabbin1957 Yea - what a different time - that's for sure.

  • @garethmillard7005
    @garethmillard7005 18 днів тому +1

    Fascinating to hear the backstory and see the enormity of their presence in the US
    Like you my top 2 albums are Four Symbols and the Superb Physical Grafitti...stunning !
    I didn't get to see them live either although I did see the Plant Page shows in.the 90's . Stones always took precedent for me along with Faces , who are still for me The personification of a Rock'n'roll band so much fun watching those boys in concert

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      It's amazing the enormity of Zeppelin in the US, even to this day. The amount of records they sell - how many diamond certified albums etc, it's astounding. With all that said, and that I obviously do love them and have all their albums + more - they're not in my top 5 of all time favorite artists. Top 10 for sure.

  • @ronalaurence4105
    @ronalaurence4105 11 днів тому

    In addition to telling a good Led Zeppelin discovery story, you provided a great look at the band’s allure, mystique and reigning popularity throughout the ‘70s. Despite being a Rolling Stones fanatic when I first took notice of the band, I quickly fell in love with all things Zeppelin. The radio and music magazines, particularly the ones you showed, guided me on my path to increasing fandom. I loved every song I heard by the band, and It wasn’t long before I was listening to Zeppelin almost as much as I was listening to The Stones. I had the first few Zeppelin albums on 8 Track, just a couple on vinyl and a few on cassette. Like so many other pre teen/teenage girls, I became obsessed with the sexiness of Robert Plant. I couldn’t get enough of him. When I had 3rd-row floor seats for Zeppelin at Madison Square Garden, I almost forgot about the other three guys on stage. I saw the band in concert a total of three times, and all three shows were truly great. They are among my favorite concert memories.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  11 днів тому

      So wonderful you saw Led Zeppelin live in concert and three times - wow - that is awesome. Now 3rd row - I can't imagine how powerful that must've been. Nice that Plant delivered everything you could've wished and imagined.

  • @tarrtruck2869
    @tarrtruck2869 18 днів тому +1

    Great overview of the Led Zeppelin experience. It's quite similar to mine since Houses Of The Holy was my first 8-track of the band and Physical Graffiti being my second. I know I'm in the minority but Houses Of The Holy is my favorite Zeppelin record over Physical Graffiti by a nose. I did see the band twice and loved it. Like you, I don't listen to them that much anymore but back in the day they were at the top of their game.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Love that you had them initially on 8-track Tarr. With the different track order, when you later on got them on vinyl, must've been a jarring experience. I have a couple of Zep 8-tracks - very different. I can totally understand why Houses is your #1, would be my #2. It was our first, and a musical life changer at that time.

  • @robertlear2712
    @robertlear2712 16 днів тому

    The first Led Zeppelin album came out in early 1969 when I was a junior in college and in a rock band as the lead singer. We started learning the songs. I saw them in concert in 1969 and 1970.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  16 днів тому

      @@robertlear2712 wow so cool to hear from someone on the frontline as it happened. And extra cool that you sung in a band covering those songs when they were fresh and new. Thanks for sharing

  • @bobjpgr3683
    @bobjpgr3683 18 днів тому

    Hi Alan,
    I started getting into Led Zep around 1976. My older cousin loaned me Zep 2, Houses of the Holy and Presence. I The first Led Zep LP I actually bought was Zep IV, and after that was Physical Graffiti. I think my favorite Led Zep album is their first one.
    I saw Led Zep at Knebworth in 1979, but unfortunately went to the 1st show on August 4th, which meant I missed the New Barbarians who played only at the 2nd show on August 11th. I was 18 at the time and to be honest I remember more of the crap I had to go through to see them rather than the performance. I went with 2 of my friends and we decided to camp out the night before the official camp site opened. We weren’t really prepared for anything and we had this crappy one man tent we managed to squeeze into, just off the side of the road in some bushes near the camp site. The next day we got into the camp site and there was basically no facilities. The porta potty’s were disgusting, we had to walk into town that day to find a rest room and from then on I just corked it up after that. The camp site was full of smoke from people burning camps fires and by the evening I was feeling really nauseous. Probably around 2:00 am someone shouted there was a hole in the fence to the field where the stage was. We quickly grabbed our stuff and got through the hole in the fence and started running to the field. It was pitch black at night and one of my friends fell into a ditch full of water. We finally got a good spot in the field near the stage and we just had to sit there the rest of the night until the show started in the day. I can remember seeing all the supports bands coming and going, and I was feeling progressively more and more like crap. I couldn’t wait for Led Zep to start, but when Chas and Dave (a cockney music-hall act) came on , I decided I had had enough and I was ready to leave. Thankfully my friends talked me down and I stayed for the show. The things you do when you’re young.😀

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Thanks for sharing this incredible, personal story. I LOVE IT!!!! I've read books, watched the videos on Knebworth, as well as other festivals like Isle Of Wight, Woodstock etc. It becomes very romanticized, especially just watching the music. But of course the reality of being there, hell being anywhere for days is unsettling. And when you have no comfortable "facilities" - I know I couldn't handle it. The music and the other fun eventually goes out the window when you feel like shit, smell like shit, and are over exhausted. At least that's me. So thanks for sharing an honest assessment of what it was like for you, and I'm sure countless thousands of others. I saw the original New Barbarians (The Knebworth was a different lineup) in 1979 - it was fun, but honestly, you didn't miss much...lol. Thanks again.

  • @aaronsteelman4732
    @aaronsteelman4732 15 днів тому

    I’ve burned myself out on several bands that I once loved or really liked. But I’ve always gone back to them with regularity eventually. The one exception is Zeppelin. I probably haven’t listened to an entire album of theirs start to finish in 15 years.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  14 днів тому

      I hear you. In actual fact, and I think I may have said it, I rarely listen to Zeppelin. I never need to hear their albums again, except House of The Holy, though I rarely listen to that. I do put on Physical Graffiti probably once a year though.

  • @sunlightglider6772
    @sunlightglider6772 19 днів тому

    Mine was Led Zep 2, I probably still listen to that the most but I love them all x

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому

      Thanks so much. It's true, they're timeless albums - still sound cutting edge to this day.

  • @LuisGarcia-ee2tr
    @LuisGarcia-ee2tr 18 днів тому

    The first Zepp album I heard was II in 1972, but the first album I bought from them was HOTHolly in 1973, when I was 13 years old. My favs: The song remains the same & The Rain Song

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Same time and same album as me. Yea - great opener and The Rain Song is magnificent - love it too.

  • @perrygoddard1520
    @perrygoddard1520 18 днів тому +1

    Hi Mate Another blinder. Zep II was the first I heard, via a visiting American staying next door. Coals to Newcastle, but wow I was hooked. Went to see them at Earls court when they were touring Physical. They were great (still got the programme). How loud were they, did I hear you ask? Well me and a few mates were walking across Hammersmith Bridge (about 5 miles by boat from the venue) when they were playing (on another night) and could clearly hear Bonzos drums!
    Can't believe "It's only Rock and Roll" is 50 this year and no anniversary release.
    John Bonham or Ian Paice?

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      Thanks for your wonderful personal story - love it. I have that bootleg video. What a time to see them as Physical Graffiti is far and away my favorite Zep album. I love IORR but really not a favorite amongst the Stones fans and really not a huge seller. The Stones anniversary releases don't seem to sell to much anyway, so I figure economically wouldn't make much sense. The bootleg outtakes I have would be better than their official releases anyway....lol. It's controversial to say, but I have all the original magazines to prove it. Back in the day, Bonham was not considered the great drummer he's now considered. I have Creem / Circus polls where he finished below Karen Carpenter, and he famously was depressed about it. Problem was she was technically a better drummer - more jazz and more actual rudiments. Now Bonham of course had that amazing right foot. But if you want to be honest, watch the Moby Dick drum solo from Song Remains The Same....it's loooong and pure Bonham power but his technical skills are not anywhere near true amazing drummers. That's why he switches to his hands at one point - to make it interesting. But he was perfect for Led Zeppelin - no one (except maybe his son) could have done better - absolutely perfect. Now Ian Paice - that guy has serious drum technical chops.

    • @carybenjaminportway
      @carybenjaminportway 17 днів тому

      RIP Earls Court. Last band I saw there was Take That. I know, it's unusual to be both a Zep and Take That fan, but that's me.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому

      @@carybenjaminportway I don't know anything about Take That, except I know they were huge. It's all good with me. Hell I love a lot of Olivia Newton John. lol.

    • @perrygoddard1520
      @perrygoddard1520 17 днів тому +1

      BTW "D'yer mak'er" is a phonics play on pronunciation. So a Cockney would read that out loud as Jamaica! 😉

    • @carybenjaminportway
      @carybenjaminportway 17 днів тому

      @@perrygoddard1520 And the ultimate cockney, Danny D'yer Maker 🤣

  • @jimalaimo8467
    @jimalaimo8467 19 днів тому

    My Zeppelin experience:
    Older brother/Zeppelin 2 &3 (3 was on yellow 8 track)!
    First purchase: Also, Houses of the Holy.
    Favorite album of 1975: Also, Physical Graffiti (released on my 14th birthday).
    Same movie experience (midnight movie).
    Thanks for posting 5his video.😊

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому

      Thanks so much - pretty much same experience - that's so awesome. Funny I recently picked up some Zeppelin 8-tracks - songs of course in completely different order so very different listening experience. No yellow one though. Thanks again.

    • @jimalaimo8467
      @jimalaimo8467 19 днів тому +1

      One thing that I forgot. I was supposed to see Zeppelin in 1977 (bus trip to JFK, $25 for bus+ ticket)! Last show to be canceled after Plant's son passed away.
      I got my refund and bought more music!😄

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому

      @@jimalaimo8467 That's right, I forgot about that tragedy at that time. I wonder if that's why I didn't see them in 1977. I don't remember why I didn't see them then. $25 for bus and ticket....those were the days, and that was probably considered a lot of money then too.

    • @jimalaimo8467
      @jimalaimo8467 19 днів тому

      I paid for it with my Tastee Freeze fast food earnings!!😄

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      @@jimalaimo8467 I love that - makes the tickets you bought that much sweeter. I remember working so hard at my first retail job to save to put an 8-track player in my car. Was so happy - can remember it like yesterday.

  • @dynjarren8355
    @dynjarren8355 17 днів тому

    Hey, now you are on a Band close to my heart. My favorites are the Classic Debut, 2, Symbols and Houses of the Holy. Physical Graffiti my favorite is the Inner Light! What a mind blowing song! And Nobody’s Fault! Killer Slide!
    The Deluxe Live is great with the Extra Live Tracks not including on the original.
    Coda Deluxe 3 CDs are great! I was really happy with that set of outtakes. Outtake versions of Inner Light! Killer!
    Then I have the Scandinavian live show on CD where they played in front of those kids up close sitting on the floor. The kids got blasted by Bonzo! They were stunned!
    Then I have the documentary film Live at Royal Albert Hall on 2 CDs which I consider the best early live show recorded because it was officially done!
    I agree that Page was a brilliant producer, player and songwriter. Plus they were great performers on stage! They did have a mystique about them because they were never on TV or the press that much. It was mainly word of mouth! Back then that was the only hype available. No internet or UA-cam!
    I remember anxiously awaiting the release of In through the Outdoor and taping it on cassette on my FM Stereo back then. They used to play both sides of albums on FM 📻 Radio back then. I miss those days. That’s all long gone!
    People cared about music back then. I used to follow the Police loyally.
    Then the last bands I cared about were Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins then lastly the White Stripes! Now only Jack White and I like Vampire Weekend! That’s it. I don’t listen to today’s music at all! It’s bad now!
    I’ll stick to the past. The best Rock ‘n’ roll was made then! I don’t need any new music! I am happy with the older songs! Rock is dying or dead now! It had a good 75 year run! The curtain is coming down! That’s all Folks!

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому +1

      Thanks, as always, for your awesome comments. I agree with it all. The mystique of Zeppelin back then was huge - no tv, just reading and looking at them in Creem and Circus. And your comment about FM radio - I used to do the same - New Release Tuesday and the great stations would play often the whole new album. Can you imagine. Now they won't even play one new song. It's insane. The dj's will talk about a new album release and then play the same old classic song they always play - it's insane. FM greatly contributed to the death of rock music - so only the big fans (like us) are only interested in new releases - it's terrible. Anyway - thanks again.

    • @dynjarren8355
      @dynjarren8355 17 днів тому +1

      You know what I’m talking about because you’re from my generation and grew up with the same things I did only I was in the Midwest and you’re from NYC. I miss record stores too! I used to browse for hours and talk to the Clerks and they would play something new over the sound system so I’d learn about a new band they liked. I miss all that! No more in store appearances by bands either. All gone!
      As you know, digital downloading killed the music biz. And now all we really have is UA-cam! Thank God for that at least! But the distribution and promotion is gone! You have to find things on your own.
      And FM Radio 📻 has much better Stereo Sound than UA-cam does. So that’s shrunk the signal after we had great sound already. That’s a step backwards.
      KEXP is a great independent Radio station that plays new Bands! One of the only ones I think.
      Then I do enjoy the Tiny Desk Concerts which are kind of like Unplugged was!
      So there are a couple of bright spots in a Vast Wasteland of FM Radio 📻 which is mainly Political Talk Radio 📻 now. What a waste of the FM Band! They have backed themselves into a corner.
      Too bad!
      In Eastern Europe, I used to visit over summers and when I listened to the Radio 📻 the DJS would play whatever they felt like and you’d hear all kinds of Music with No Set Format! It was Great! That’s Good Radio 📻.
      But it was not Corporate owned and controlled like here. I like College Radio 📻 Station or Independent Stations only!
      Always good to talk to you because I relate to you so well!
      Thanks, man! 👏🏻

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  17 днів тому +1

      @@dynjarren8355 thanks yes. We’re totally on the same page. I am very lucky that here on Long Island I’m blessed with a bunch of great record stores. But I know that’s rare. Most locations are lucky if the have one. Great talking to you too.

  • @anthonyaswe4174
    @anthonyaswe4174 15 днів тому

    Nicely done Alan...and yes, growing up in the 70s, there was an omnipresence to Led Zep that is hard to overstate. But it was really, a completely different world, in so many ways--perhaps the biggest distinction was the way music is discovered, consumed, digested, experienced, and learned about. Really, everything revolved around FM radio back then, which of course, Zep dominated. As far as the 'rock press', I think in some ways the Zep vs Rolling Stone magazine narrative is a little overplayed, and over-exaggerated. Yes, if you go back and look at the original reviews of, say, the first two Zep albums, they were both summarily dismissed by Rolling Stone. And yes, as popular as they were, rarely was the band featured in that publication. The Stones, however, were heavily featured in Rolling Stone, and constantly graced their covers. That being said, critics were hardly "kind" to the Stones during this era--all of their classic albums got either middling or lousy reviews back in the day--and not just Rolling Stone, but Creem and Circus didn't heap praise on them either. I can remember reading Greil Marcus' review of Sticky Fingers as a young boy, or Lester Bangs' review of Exile--and being the kid I was, I couldn't even figure out if they liked the records or not! I think part of Rolling Stone magazines' issue was that they tried to present themselves as not merely a 'music' magazine, but a magazine dedicated to music, entertainment, pop culture, politics and societal mores, as opposed to just rock and roll. And because of that, they seemed to have a much more erudite quality than the other magazines you highlighted--and because of that, I believe, they balked at the 'super hype' that revolved around Zeppelin, especially since it seemed to be self created (note, wasn't Superhype the name of their publishing company???). And yet, with all that, they still (rightfully) named them Artist of the Year in 1975, and featured them in several issues, accompanied by copy from the very young Cameron Crowe (which has been romanticized to no end, in and of itself).
    As for my personal discovery of them...well, I couldn't really pin point it because, as we've all said, they were always THERE...I think the first album of theirs I bought personally was Vol IV, though I had heard all of their records from either friends, or heavy radio play. Over time, I did end up purchasing their entire catalog, and, like you, I regularly attended screenings of The Song Remains the Same, and watched it heavily on home video, once VHS became the norm. Even then, I thought it was somewhat...silly. In addition to their studio releases, I acquired a significant collection of their bootlegs. So much so that I only listened to their live bootleg material after a certain time, as those seemed more powerful to me than the studio recordings, which, for as well produced as they were, seemed to me overly detailed, too perfectly played, even too pretty in a lot of cases, compared to those concerts.
    And, in recent years, I began to have a real change of heart toward Led Zep, and have grown to not hold them near the esteem I did in my youth, and in much of my adulthood, when I immersed myself in those massive number of bootlegs I had. In fact, as I've alluded to you before, Led Zep probably received the biggest lacerations during the bloodletting of my music collection over the years. I had a huge amount of bootlegs from virtually all of their tours, both CD'Rs and silver (factory) pressed CDs. I was almost boggled by it. I had soooo many soundboards from their '77 US tour (which kinda became my favorite because I loved how sophisticated their extended improvisations became, at times, sounding more like a fusion group instead of a rock band--though the band itself, cites that tour as the worst of times) that I had to sell them off. I had every soundboard from their six night stand at the LA Forum, and several from their week at MSG and Capitol Center in DC, as well. Many more from the great '75, and '73 tours. Heck, I even had a huge chunk from the 1980 European tour they did that summer, a couple of months prior to Bonham drinking himself to death a month later (there was a tortured soul, who hasn't really been explained or understood). You could already hear the band starting to play it straight, ditching the candy ass costumes, long sets and excessive noodling that had dominated their shows in the wake of the punk revolution.
    I didn't even bother buying any of those much ballyhooed remasters from a few years back, save for two titles: Vol 1, because the deluxe edition contained the heavily sought after live show from the Olympia Theater in Paris, 1969, and Presence, because I've always had a special attraction to that often dismissed album. And from the looks of it, the 'bonus' material on those deluxe editions didn't seem to be all that. From what I've been able to tell, Zeppelin did not leave anywhere near the iceberg of great music in the vault that the Stones obviously have.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  15 днів тому +1

      Gotta say Anthony, this is one of the greatest comments ever. You cover so much ground, most of which I can greatly relate to, though your expertise surely exceeds mine. As you said it wasn't that Rolling Stone didn't cover Zeppelin - they just didn't fawn over them or feature them in cover stories like Creem and Circus and Hit Parader (that was also a top notch magazine in its prime) which always had Zep stories it seemed. I loved your comments about Marcus and Bangs (plus other "legendary" writers). To me they, especially Bangs became "rock stars" in their minds. The articles and especially reviews were so convoluted with byway and side stories, after reading a full page review, they barely covered the album itself and I had no idea if they liked it or not. In fact, they frustrated the shit out of me. I was not impressed beyond their creativity and massive egos. I have a decent collection of bootlegs from Zep but also dumped a ton. I know it's a bit sterotypical, because now I hear others say it alot, but I always felt Page, in the live bootlegs, was oftentimes very sloppy and was rarely impressed by his solos, as compared to other players of their caliber who were so much cleaner. I always figured it was because of Zep's unbelievable production by Page on their albums and so many guitar overdubs that it was impossible to recreate live. With that said, I always found The Who, for instance, much more powerful live and Townshend also handled the guitar alone, though Entwistle was of course massive in sound. Also as you mentioned, when Zep would jam, it could be like fusion and go on and on, and It's great when I'm in the mood, but definitely have to be in the mood. Anyway, thanks for your amazing comments. Really appreciated.

    • @anthonyaswe4174
      @anthonyaswe4174 15 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow Thanks Alan, but I don't think my expertise is any greater than yours, and far less than others. Regarding Page's playing...yes, he was 'sloppy' or ragged on stage, in his solos and improvisations, mainly. I always most admired his "sound" and his phrasing, as he really defined rock guitar for that decade. As a riff maker, songwriter, chord-melody player, he was among the greatest, but Zeppelin reveled in their extended improvisations--and a lot of them would lead to songs in their own right. For instance, if you listen to some of the 1973 shows, during the middle section of Dazed and Confused, they would dovetail into San Francisco--the chordal arpeggiation he plays preceding it became one of the melodic lines in Achilles Last Stand later on. Sometimes, those extended solos worked, especially when you can hear melodic ideas being developed (hence the fusion connection)...but a lot of other times, it could devolve into noodling. And I could be wrong, but didn't a young Eddie Van Halen make some reference to Page's sloppy playing--hence the title of the killer boot Listen to This Eddie? I've heard other sources claim the reference is to audio engineer Eddie Kramer, but who knows. Either way, that particular show, from their week at the Forum in '77 remains a favorite of mine--and yes, that was saved from the great Zeppelin purge from a few years back!
      Another issue with Zep that has never been squared away is their debauched excesses...well, debauchery is one thing, but it seems things may have slipped into pretty questionable territory throughout their reign. From the thuggish tactics of their manager, to their out of control entourage, some things got downright ugly. Look no further than The Song Remains the Same--Peter Grant allowed his crass putdown of a vending manager to stay in the film, almost in celebration of his tight fisted tactics. At the time, most folks watched that as a badass move...these days, people would see that and think this guy has a problem. Of course that was minor compared to what Grant and other members of his staff did to one of Bill Graham's staffers at an Oakland show in 1977. I've never heard the official account per say, but if anything close to that happened in the last 30, even 40 years, he would have found himself immediately incarcerated and facing deep libel issues. Later, Grant regretted and apologized for his actions--I think--but it seems a lot of people never got their comeuppance for some pretty serious transgressions. I mean, look at the opinion people have of Bill Wyman now for his relationship with Mandy Smith back in the 80s. As I recall, and I'm sure you do too, no one said squat about it during that time--in fact their marriage once she turned 18 was celebrated, made even more peculiar in that the girl's mother married Bill's 20something son. I remember the narrative that the girl's mother was aware of her relationship with Bill made it, somehow, "okay". I guess that's a story for another thread, but you really hear a lot of backlash about such things now, and some people think Bill should suffer some accountability for that all these years later. And I'm sure it was worse in the '70s. And given the storm currently underway with Diddy, one has to wonder how his alleged depravity stacked up against these things that happened so long ago.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  14 днів тому

      @@anthonyaswe4174 You, my friend are totally an expert and so well informed. I mean I never picked up in those "noodling" jams what you've heard - but you are way above me in that Zeppelin bootleg area of expertise. I mean "the chordal arpeggiation he plays preceding it became one of the melodic lines in Achilles Last Stand later on" - that's awesome. I've certainly heard Townshend do similar things in The Who extended jams back in the early 70's and it worked marvelously. Very interesting points you've made. I know that legendary bootleg Listen To This Eddie - one of the great bootlegs of all time for sure. I'm not sure of the actual reference. But interesting comparison comparing like Van Halen to Page - whereas Van Halen, or even Blackmore, or Clapton, or Stevie Ray Vaughan - there's so many who are so clean in their soloing. Page to me is not. It's interesting. But of course Page is one of the all time great guitarists - but to me, he's even more impressive as a songwriter, arranger and producer. He really does it all. I was thinking of the horrendous Bill Graham incident and there you are - you nailed it. That was atrocious. I believe there was a lawsuit settlement but it was probably nothing . No doubt Zeppelin was brutal, like a musical band mafia. Seems that Grant was paid back at the end - after the end of Zeppelin I believe he lost almost everything and died a relatively sad death. I don't remember the exact details, but he never recovered post Zeppelin. As for Diddy and the rock scene back then. I will not judge Diddy - I really don't know him and what he did. But the rock stars back in those days - I mean Jimmy Page had relations with like really young groupies. Seems that those "legendary" groupies were doing what they wanted to do - totally voluntarily - but they were very young often. The shark incident I'm sure was just the tip of the iceberg. All today's rock stars would probably be in jail based on today's situation. I'm sure they're all counting their blessings. Fun talking with you. Best, Alan

  • @douglasweston126
    @douglasweston126 15 днів тому

    Hi Alan - was I around in the 70's - shit yeh lolol. I've been around from the beginning of time lolol. One of my all time favourite bands, and yeh they did kick ass - and as you say they changed the industry for the better. Peter Grant - what a manager to have eh - he didnt give a shit, and everything changed. Strangely enough they broke in the USA, before the UK - weird eh? Have the whole Zeppelin catalogue, got rid of my original CD's and upgraded to the remastered versions and more. Saw Zeppelin live in 1970 / 1971 - and have great memories of the show to this very day. They opened up with a great electric set, took a 15 minute break and came back to do an acoustic set (which I absolutely loved), off for another 15 minute break and back with a final electric set. 2 - 3 hrs of great music. How Jimmy carried that Les Paul around for that long I dont know lol. Do I have a favourite Zeppelin album? Well that gonna be difficult - they're all great, but I do have a soft spot for Led Zep III . I loved Jimmy's acoustic playing he was a real master. One of the best live DVD's you'll ever find is the Led Zeppelin 2DVD set - absolutely brilliant. OK Alan that's me again - take it easy, and keep on rockin. "CYA" Doug

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  15 днів тому +1

      Hey "Cya" Doug - damn you saw the mighty Zep in 70 / 71. Talk about prime time. I love (on bootleg) when Zep does the acoustic set. Was more proof, not that it was really needed, that they were on another level than most big bands at the time. I love the acoustic zeppelin stuff of course. Yea that Zeppelin 2 DVD set was fantastic and was a huge step forward at the time. Huge seller of course as well. Funny, but III is one of my lesser favorites of Zep, but still of course pretty great. Can't imagine how heavy that Gibson double neck guitar was (on Stairway and other songs). Jimmy must've had a strong back and shoulders. Best, Alan

  • @SpenceCurry
    @SpenceCurry 11 днів тому

    The legendary berkley 1971 boot. Still play this

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  10 днів тому

      @@SpenceCurry nice.

    • @SpenceCurry
      @SpenceCurry 10 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow but nothing comes close to me the German dates of 1973. It ruined me for their other shows

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  10 днів тому

      @@SpenceCurry I don’t have those shows but fantastic time period obviously

    • @SpenceCurry
      @SpenceCurry 10 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow get them. And frankfurt 1980. LA. 77. 1/3/4/5/ dates. Bc 1975

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  10 днів тому

      @@SpenceCurry I do have Frankfut 1980 and LA '77. Some other '77 and '75 as well. Thanks.

  • @shaunmccaul1695
    @shaunmccaul1695 18 днів тому

    I saw Zep in August of 1969 after Woodstock at Frank Connolly's Carousel Ballroom, Rte. 9 Framingham MA and again 10/24/69 at Boston Garden with MC5 and Johnny Winter supporting. My loge seats were $ 5.50 each. Never saw them again.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      Wow - that's a cool story. I've never heard from anyone who saw them in 1969. Actually haven't met anyone who saw them earlier than 1973. Carousel Ballroom no less - wow. Wonder why you stopped seeing them? Was it because you saw them in such small places that the larger arenas didn't appeal to you? Thanks.

  • @thomaswery3087
    @thomaswery3087 19 днів тому

    Being older than you Alan my intro to Zeppelin was their 1st on 8 track.Then when the second album came out I thought here we go just blew me away.I think I told you saw them in '73 and have a bootleg of the show which is cool as you know with all your boots lol

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      I do remember that Tom. How cool that you had the first album on 8-track...lol. Yea - having a bootleg of a show you went to is extra special. I have a few. I also think that the 2nd album is a big leap over the first. An excellent example of growth from a debut album to the 2nd.

    • @thomaswery3087
      @thomaswery3087 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow Funny how Zeppelin for me was great from the start but they slipped behind Heep and Purple for me but now there right up there again over the last several years

    • @thomaswery3087
      @thomaswery3087 18 днів тому

      I also still have those Circus magazines lol

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      @@thomaswery3087 I didn't know that - that's awesome. I was going thru some the other night, and many are really starting to fall apart unfortunately, but they stood me well all these decades.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      @@thomaswery3087 I like Purple and have a bunch, but never really listen to them. I listen to Rainbow more and the most Blackmore I listen to is actually Blackmore's Night. Go figure. I listen to Heep way more than Purple (not that I think they're better, but I just listen to them way more). With that said, I don't listen to Zeppelin that much, but that's because they're so overplayed. To me Zeppelin is on another plateau. My gods of rock - Stones, Beatles, Who, Zeppelin, U2 Springsteen and Dylan. For me I add The Kinks of course.

  • @davidkunzli680
    @davidkunzli680 19 днів тому +1

    I got the first album when it was released and still have it. It was a wow disc with the what was that I just heard reaction. The second album too. Lost interest when the faries started walking through the morning mist😂😂. Never saw Led Zeppelin. I did see Jimmy Page and Robert Plant on their tour doing the revamped versions of Zeppelin songs which I really love. I've seen Robert Plant several times and always enjoy the reimagining of Zeppelin songs. Squeeze that lemon, bro.😂🤣 By the way, of course we have record stores, but you never see anything for a dollar. More likely 2.99 to 6.99 per CD. What we do have is the ability to get a drink 24 hours a day and getting go cups so you can drink in the street 24 hours a day😂. The ultimate in southern sophistication 😂.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому

      You know I went to New Orleans once. Loved it. Still have my Marie Leveau's House Of Voodoo sticker. I forgot Euclid is down there - that's a famous store. 2.99's good price...lol. Oh I also still have my green Hand Grenade drink from Tropical Isle in the French Quarter where we stayed. Did much drinking and walking around in your mega partying town. Also one and only time I had that "illegal" drink....what's it called....hold on.......ABSINTHE - was fun how she did it, but didn't make me hallucinate or anything...lol

    • @davidkunzli680
      @davidkunzli680 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow The Hand Grenade... allegedly the most potent drink in The Quarter. They don't make Absinthe with Wormwood anymore. That's why it's legal again. Not my favorite drink, but 2 years ago, one of my many drinks for my birthday was a Absinthe Frappe. To get drunk with you here in New Orleans is on my list of things to do. I think we would have a good time 🍸🍷

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      @@davidkunzli680 I think we would have a great time. My wife says New Orleans once was enough, but I liked it. Plus I'm kicking myself from not buying one of those scary devil dolls I saw down there...right up my alley. I'll let you know if I make it down there again.

  • @deeg8849
    @deeg8849 19 днів тому

    To each their own, but they just never clicked with me. My Dad had all the Zep albums, but he didn't play them much, so I didn't get exposed to them from at home like most of my other early music. I came across Zep because of all the "stoner" guys that adored them and Stairway always being the last song at the grade 6 and grade 8 dance. Common link between the two, predictable. I never quite clicked with the stoner posse or their music (Zep in the late 70s and then bad hair metal in the 80s) and it stayed the course. In the 90s when I had my own place and money to spend, I not only got into buying my own music but reading alot of bios and music mags (Mojo, Q, etc) And the thing that really made me discount Zep even more was how many songs they either lifted completely or partially and then spun them off as their own. (until they were later forced to change) That rubbed me the wrong way. And unlike many of their fellow artists of the day (Clapton, Townsend, Richards, Harrison, etc) not liking them because they were too loud, I didn't mind that. I just thought they couldn't groove. I like black music in its rawest forms (the blues, real r&b that swings, funk, etc) because it grooves and lets face it, this music influenced classic rock n roll that we love. I also like to dance. While you can bob your head to Zep on your own, you just can't dance to Zep with a woman. Don't believe me, try it or watch for it. Cause if it is happening, its a painful thing to watch. Now the Stones is all groove and that's why they are superior to me. But as I said at the start, to each their own.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much for your awesome comments. Zep is in my top 10 all time favorite bands, but not in my top 5. Very true what you said. The Rolling Stones (my all time #1 by far) roll - they groove - they swing. Led Zeppelin definitely do not - they ROCK. Funny comment about dancing. I once caught an old girlfriend dancing in her garage to Trampled Under Foot - she did pull it off, not that I could though. You're so right about them stealing those early songs. It was a disgrace. As compared to say The Stones who loudly and proudly exposed their influences and often had them join them on stage. Thankfully, Zep eventually had to pay up....at least to a certain extent, but that was downright disgraceful. But as mentioned, there's tons of stories - Led Zeppelin were a tough, "nasty" band with a dark mojo.

  • @joejenkins3595
    @joejenkins3595 18 днів тому

    I got into Zeppelin because of Circus and Creem magazine.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Yea - really me too I guess (plus my sister having two albums, and the constant radio play even in the early 70's), but Creem and Circus was so influential. I still go back and read some old issues on certain things. Fantastic magazines.

    • @jasonpp1973
      @jasonpp1973 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow And your mags are in in impeccable shape, did you ever to the comic book thing?

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      @@jasonpp1973 No never big on comics. I've read some graphic novels - loved From Hell. Also some others Watchman, Maus, Ghost World and some others.

  • @jasonpp1973
    @jasonpp1973 19 днів тому

    Got into collecting Zep late, my first was the 4 cd set that came in a vinyl size box, was slightly disappointed that it did not Good Times Bad Times, the shuffle mode song order, and lack of unreleased stuff, was cool how Page the new drum piece out of Moby Dick and Bonzo's Montreux.
    Man, John had a squeaky bass drum pedal, call it the Sqeak King pedal!
    The original Coda on vinyl would have been better if they left off the 2nd I cant Quit you Baby, and put Hey Hey What Can I do in its place.
    Always thought was Plant was singing "double e" on the song Darlene, lol!

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Yea I think I listened to that initial Zep box once. Then had to buy the sequel to get Good Times Bad Times and the rest. Not that I needed it, except for completion purposes. Funny have all the Zep compilations but NEVER listen to them. They really are an album's band (like Pink Floyd as well). As a drummer and owner of a Speed King, that's a great nickname - Squeek King...love it. Thanks.

    • @jasonpp1973
      @jasonpp1973 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow Zep is definitely an LP band, each album it's own unique listening experience.
      I usually reach for Physical or Houses, III has grown on me through the years, definitely their most folky album.
      You mentioned The Crunge, sounds like they were going for a funky James Brown vibe, nothing wrong with that, I have a couple of JB cd comps, would love to find the Star Time box at a cheap pricem

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      @@jasonpp1973 Took me a while for III to really grow on me. I still don't love it but obviously lots of classics on it. I always liked The Crunge - such a funny weird track. Yea I guess about as funky at Zep can get. Zep doesn't swing or roll. They Rock. Now the Stones they can roll and swing.

    • @jasonpp1973
      @jasonpp1973 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow Stones could swing good because they had that special ingredient, Mr. Watts.
      I have an ultra rare cd on Columbia from 1986 called Charlie Watts Orchestra - Live at Fulham Town Hall, Jack Bruce was one of the musicians on it.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      @@jasonpp1973 Yes - and will Bill Wyman - they had that swing - but yea especially Charlie being a jazz oriented player. I have that album on vinyl too. Charlie sure was a jazz influenced drummer who could swing and "roll".

  • @LoriJaco
    @LoriJaco 15 днів тому

    My first zeppelin album was zeppelin 2, then i bought all the rest of the albums in the same day

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  15 днів тому

      Thanks Lori. I imagine hearing that for the first time when it came out - truly mind blowing. Was mind blowing for me and I heard it some years later. Still pretty mind blowing in fact.

    • @LoriJaco
      @LoriJaco 15 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow I know someone who said that it was the first album that they ever bought by anybody

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  15 днів тому +1

      @@LoriJaco That's a hell of an entry into the world of rock music. That's for sure.

  • @stephen-truthseeker
    @stephen-truthseeker 19 днів тому

    In England we didn't even have a rock channel on the radio. So I didn't even know about Zeppelin until much later on. Coz Zeppelin never released any singles here.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  19 днів тому

      Yea - that was part of the genius of Led Zeppelin - no singles. So if you wanted the songs, had to buy the albums...it sure did work

  • @srirahulpremkumar1600
    @srirahulpremkumar1600 4 дні тому

    Which band was bigger overall in America back in the 70s, led zeppelin or the Rolling Stones??

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  4 дні тому

      Really hard to say - The Stones tours were "bigger" events. As big as the Zeppelin tours were, nothing was bigger than The Stones touring. But as for sales of albums - Zeppelin's sales even then were bigger.

  • @georgemathie8123
    @georgemathie8123 18 днів тому

    So I wasn't born when Zeppelin were in their heyday I was born in 1978 so I grew up with Robert plant's solo work as my introduction and when I got into my late teens I got my first copies of in through the outdoor, physical graffiti and led Zeppelin 2 and as the saying goes off to races I went

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Nice - and In Through The Out Door was a different Zeppelin album for different times - 1979 - lots of John Paul Jones keyboards, but another strong album of course. Would have been an interesting tour (in the USA) if it would've happened, but the European bootlegs and Knebworth are a hint of what could've been. Thanks..

    • @georgemathie8123
      @georgemathie8123 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow the album that started it all for me was Robert plant's now and zen and I remember totally digging tall cool one on muchmusic I'm Canadian so that's our Canadian version of MTV and constantly borrowing the record from my local library and manic Nirvana were the 2 Robert plant albums that got me hooked when I was a youngster

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому

      @@georgemathie8123 Tall Cool One had the Zeppelin samples which was a cool effect - great song. My favorite are his first two albums, especially the 2nd one with Big Log. LOVE that song so much.

  • @kennethozelie2082
    @kennethozelie2082 18 днів тому

    Anyone, it isn't first release, but it was bought between release and '75, and I still have that belly band, the album is in very good condition, worth anything, I looked at Ebay, but I ain't the best at navigating that site, answers please.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      Nice that you still have that. I do go to the occasional record show, but I'm there for cheap CD's and bargains. It's amazing to me what people will pay for vinyl they want. The old story is the value is what someone will pay for it. I would check out Discogs and put in the actual album number from the dead wax of the vinyl so it'll match the correct pressing. You'll see what it's going for but make sure you look for those with the belly bands as I'm sure many don't have it. Good luck.

    • @jasonpp1973
      @jasonpp1973 18 днів тому

      @@TheAlanRosenbergShow CD hunting is so fun, but be careful, check them out before buying, I opened a CD last weekend to check it at a thrift store, and large roach jumped out onto the floor, cd did not come with me.
      Also got to check for mold/mildew damage, cds that are donated come from a vast variety of sources.
      I have zero probs with buying promo copies that are stamped or cut out.
      Same goes for record club editions.
      Also, a bit of sunfading on spines dont bother me.
      I miss record stores with cut out bins, got some real gems back in the day, heck, I miss retail record stores like Tower, Sam Goody, etc.
      I believe there is a few FYE stores left, but not many.

    • @TheAlanRosenbergShow
      @TheAlanRosenbergShow  18 днів тому +1

      @@jasonpp1973 FYE used to be a good store - had some deals - but they're long gone here on Long Island. Two left but they have nothing really. Never found a roach in a CD - but that's a hell of a surprise. Yea - always check the used CD you buy - flea markets sometimes the CD's are missing completely.