Can Samsung Redeem Themselves? Odyssey G7 S28 4K 144Hz Review
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00:00 - Intro, Specs, Design
04:25 - Response Times and Overdrive Settings
06:21 - Response Time Performance Comparisons
09:00 - Backlight Strobing
09:30 - Color Performance
12:01 - Brightness, Contrast, Uniformity
13:13 - HDR Performance
14:10 - HUB Essentials Checklist
16:07 - Final Thoughts
Can Samsung Redeem Themselves? Odyssey G7 S28 4K 144Hz Review
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Man, I love the charts they show showing transparency on marketing claims. Thank you so much guys!
Love the checklist and calling out manufacturers for their BS response times. Shame they are never realistic and independent reviewers are needed.
OLED ftw - know you really will get under 1ms response every time!
@@whiskizyo2067 Burn-in makes me not feel like it's worth it. If I'm spending that much, I want it to last.
@RedJoker ?qd oleds havent been released ryt?
@@whiskizyo2067 thats gonna be too big for most
@@megadeth8592 not for those able to move back a bit, or wall mount to choose the exact distance you want to sit from it. small price to pay for an awesome OLED as a monitor instead of the usual monitors with major strengths and weaknesses
Nice, they finally listened. Most people don't want curved monitors.
I love my curved monitor but for 28" , it seems like a pointless spec
Definitely not for 16/9 or 16/10 displays
It's IPS, so can't be curved.
I still love the curved one, although not all people love the 1000R curve yes.
@Daniel Rae Why not? I love the pixel density of small 4k monitors while sitting close.
Very much appreciate the Hub Essentials Checklist. Looking forward to seeing how the 2022 gaming OLEDs will perform here. Thank you Tim!
This channel is amazing, thank you so much for all of the content and hard work.
Cheers for being youtube's resident monitor expert. The majority of people have no idea about monitor specs so it's great that you help people out this way
Thx for this review!! I was waiting for this one!!
thank you so much for this review, i was waiting it with impatience haha you are the best ;)
Anyone else find HUB's intro and outro music soothing? Good stuff.
👍
Kudos on the HUB Essentials Checklist. Great idea, well implemented.
thanks for the review!
i got this monitor and i think its actually good, i use the HDR dynamic mode with local dimming off and it works well for me so far!
Yep dynamic hdr is actually pretty sick
9:50 69 percent coverage - Nice!
Its not often I see an new product review video of a product I already have owned for awhile. Awesome!
Very nice, love the essentials checklist page.
FYI, hold down middle click for smooth scrolling :P
Awesome review as usual. I had to rewind when I heard the Rec2020 coverage numbers; wasn’t expecting a Vincent Teoh like zing on that. :D
Also love the new marketing checklist.
love you guys!!!😊
waiting on LG 32GQ950 that got showcased during CES 2022
I really want to get into monitors but the names make it too difficult. Whenever I need to buy a monitor I just watch your recap videos, because the HSX27KSA vs the HSX27DSA is just not gonna stick in my brain.
get a (42 inch) LG C2, it's fewer letters :)
@@zenon3021 No. You people fail to realize how much room a 42" TV takes up for any desk use.
Whenever I look at monitors and want to double check reviews, I have to copy/paste the name into the search bar. Can't remember anything other than "C1", "Odyssey", and "M27Q". Who has time to remember "MAG89687o78guiuhiy2198oppi129p8o" or "Acer fvviviiiqheiovhiohino"?
the NAME isn't what stops me. It's actually buying the monitor I want at a reasonable price. HWU recommended one a few months ago. Could I buy it? Nope.
When I recently went into several stores asking for monitor names none of the employees had any idea of what I was talking about and had to look it up. The naming scheme is ridiculous for monitors.
Great review, I've been waiting for this one!
that checklist is so good! Awesome work!
Thank you for the checklist! very useful
this review is the kind of effort that keeps a youtube channel going for a long time
You guys have been killing it on the videos lately!
Looking forward to the Viewsonic XG2431 review
Optimum Tech's video was really glowing with the panel performance
Would love to get your take on it, and whether you see the poor brightness as a significant issue
Keep the monitor reviews coming!
My Acer XV273k died on me today while in a meeting and I was like, “well I’m SOL.” Then I remembered I had warranty from Best Buy. They confirmed the warranty was good and my local store only had this as an equivalent. I paid almost $1,000 US on the Acer 3 years ago, so when they told me I had $300 in store credit, I also grabbed a 980 Pro m.2 2TB drive. I was reading the specs on this while I was waiting in line and saw HDMI 2.1!!! I was super excited because now I can play my PC, Xbox Series X, and PS5 in 4K with VRR and whatnot. Also, now I have a good drive for my PS5!
I have the Gigabyte M28U, a great monitor and I now value the inbuilt KVM Switch. Being able to use my laptop and keyboard on both my gaming PC and work laptop without having to change the ports is a lifesaver!
I really wanted to get this one but I have not seen it available anywhere.
27 and 28 inches is too small for 4k. Still would take 1440p 240hz G7 curved over this.
@@MrGalax00 Yeah it can be difficult to find but at least in the UK, they do seem to be getting shipments pretty regularly - I just had to pre-order and then wait a few weeks
Gigabyte is missing out on the European market. The cheapest M28U here is over 900€ with lead times of 3+ weeks.
I'm enjoying my G7 4k, especially since I saved $150 during black Friday. BTW as always, awesome review Tim.
What are you using for external sound speakers? Just ordered mine
@@MusicMyBlood The Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Good for adobe creative cloud?
@@primetiming5846 That I don't know, I use it mostly for gaming and content consumption.
I just bought mine for $300 including a 2 year replacement plan from MC.
Thanks for the review! Awesome as always!
I'll never understand how factory calibration isn't perfect. You'd think companies would have a colorimeter or two laying around somewhere in the office.
Because it cost time and money
Its for you to buy little expensive box of device for one time use :)
Love your thoroughness guys, thanks!
I'm just loving my Gigabyte M27Q got it for $230 bucks on sale over the holidays, absolute deal. My only regret is not buying two.
Going from a oddysey g5 va to this is like going from sub HD to full HD resolution, the clarity and non existent ghosting and bluring,and the colors, i replsyef the same game i played on the VA and its feels like a different game.
Me too
thats a good deal yea
Oof. I got mine for 350 when it launched. Great monitor. But 230 is a steal!
loving my gigabyte monitor as well. got the 32" 1440p IPS version for $400 on sale
What camera are you using to record? One of the best quality ive seen in a while, awesome! great video, I was almost clicking buy on this monitor to use with a ps4 pro 4k at 60hz and windows 4k at 60hz and mac 4k at 60hz hdr (a dodgy usbc to hdmi 2.1 may make it higher) and your in depth testing may have revealed this monitor may not be best for my use case as didnt realise it runs better at higher refresh rates!
Nice timing guys, this is exactly the monitor I've been looking to buy.
I can't wait for new g8 QD-OLEDs ultrawides, they're gonna be the revolution we all need, but few can afford.
9:52 I was begging Tim to pull a Linus here, and he did. :D
When do you imagine we get good 27/28 4K 120Hz+ HDR monitors for around 700 bucks?
no hdr yes, with hdr. your only bet is mini-LED or OLED. those have their own flaws too, and the price will cost way more than 700 bucks.
Next 3 years maybe
2030 lol
@@commercio3564 lol 3 years for a $700 real HDR monitor, more like 2030 as the other poster stated. Fald is expensive, OLED is even more expensive. Mini led is more expensive than normal IPS+fald. Micro led, which is the real competitor to OLEDs, are many times more expensive than any other display type. So it really depends which HDR standard are you referring to here.
Once I have tasted OLED in a Gigabyte gaming laptop, it is just hard to go back to IPS panels. The black in OLED is really black because it has no backlight. Mini LED display on a Macbook Pro is still behind the OLED panel in color reproduction.
Hey man, great video. Is there a chance you could tell us what the best calibration settings are for this monitor since they seem to be bad out of the box? I’m playing on console so I can’t really calibrate it with my PC
Superb channel, helped me avoid the Spectrum 4k and steer me to better bang for buck monitors.
Just copped it a few days ago! It’s working out very well for me!
I'm just waiting for stock at my local retailer, I'm keen to have mine before Elden Ring is released in late feb
yo, 2 years later, how is this monitor holding up for you now?
Any chance y’all are gonna review the 27GP950? It is supposed to have better performance than the GN950, and it’s released in a very different monitor market, so I feel it’s distinct enough to deserve it’s own review
Will wait for your review on 32 or 34 Neo G8. I will most likely buy it. The only thing i might hate is the strong curve but i had ulltrawide 34 inch with 1800R so i think i can accept the 1000R.
You're thinking wrong. 1000R is significantly curvier than what you've had
@@drunkhusband6257 yeah i will need to see it in real life before buying it. We have the G7 model available in country now in shops i gues i will see how it really looks and feels.
The HUB checklist is ingenious, well done
I bought it last night for gaming on an Xbox because of your clear review appreciate your work thanks
I have this monitor and it is really nice. Upgraded from a Dell 27" 1440p 155hz TN panel. Got it on sale for $650 at Best Buy during the holidays. Worth every penny. Highly recommend!
What external speakers do you use with this monitor? I just ordered mine
@@MusicMyBlood congrats you're going to love it! I'm very happy with mine. For gaming I use my Steel Series Arctis Pro Wireless, or if I'm just listening to Spotify or watching UA-cam videos sometimes I'll use a JBL Charge 3 Bluetooth speaker that I happened to already have. I have it wired up to my Arctis Pro DAC so it automatically receives audio from my PC when my headset is turned off. My motherboard also has Bluetooth so sometimes I will use a cheap pair of Bluetooth earbuds for watching UA-cam, etc.
What do you think of the hdr? Or do you just turn it off? Just curious.
@@Rosne134 it looks nice but I don't use it. It's on the low end of HDR specs. Aside from that it's an awesome monitor though.
@@SLAY3R8888 Thanks for the quick reply!
I was so happy to see the next generation of G7 monitors come out with a flat screen instead of a curve. Then I saw that it was just a normal IPS panel. I'd been hoping that they would finally be bringing their high-speed VA panel tech to the world of non-curved screens. But nope. No contrast for me.
I feel the same way. They had a great opportunity to deliver a flat version of the previous G7 with optimized VA performance but instead opted to deliver another IPS panel into a saturated market for that technology.
i don't even understand why would they want that curved mess so much. It's horrible.
@@user-me7iw6ft8z curved is amazing
@@user-me7iw6ft8z I bought a 27 inch G5 144hz 1440p late last week for £288, sending it back this week. The monitor is stunning, great picture quality but the massive curve makes me feel sick, dizzy and gives me headaches. I'd kill for a flat screen version of that monitor.
Curved is amazing, yep. I have curved 27 sva, great monitor. Curved=less black crush, less color shift, less glow. Curved is future
Will you be reviewing the LG OLED C2 42" when it becomes available?
Great content as usual, but can y'all do Omen 27c, Omen 27i, or the Omen 4K one(I can't remember the name)?
Has HDMI 2.1 that's fast enough for consoles and an OSD cross hair for cheating. Also not curved. Seems solid.
Im so happy with it , it's my first monitor that I've got to go with my ps5 and I'm wrapped.
Hi ! Great video as usual :). Did you notice real differences between 2k g7 and 4k g7, in term of image quality ? Thank
The difference is night and day. 1440p looks awful (Compared to 4k)
i love my Odyssey G7 28 1440p 240hz. and never had any issue with it. personally i would wait for their new QD oled panel.
I have had this monitor for a couple months now and I really like it. I've had several IPS monitors over the past few years and this one by far has the best contrast ratio and its pretty noticeable over ones like the LG GN850B.
I love my LG GN850B.
Question, my good sir. What exactly is contrast on a monitor?
@@KAIBIL_08 contrast would be the difference between white and black. Some monitors with lower contrast ratios will look more gray than black. The higher the contrast the darker the blacks.
@@mxracer0327 thank you for the fast response. I've had this monitor for aoemtime now and really enjoy it. However I knew there were some stuff I didn't understand, but mainly use it with my PS5
@@KAIBIL_08 I have also had mine for a couple months now and really enjoy it. It's a great "budget" 4k high refresh monitor, especially if your not searching out for true HDR. If not then this is a pretty great choice.
I've given up on monitors. I'm sticking with my old Dell s2716dgr 1440p 144hz with gsync module. I've tried monitors with freesync and I really dislike the couple second black screen depending on if vrr is used or not for certain apps.
Though maybe those qd oleds will be worth it.
for an amateur like myself i didn’t understand half the stuff you were talking about but loved the video!
9:51 very very smooth Tim
Can't wait for your coverage of the Neo G8
I would have strongly considered this when I was still in the market for a monitor. Glad they turned away from that crass curve
Another brilliant review, thanks a million :o) (this channel has got to be the best for monitor reviews)
Yeah I had 2 g7 32” monitors both with dead pixels brand new and Samsung wouldn’t warranty them because I got them on Amazon from 3rd party that was out of stock now and stated it had less than 30 days left on the manufacturer warranty do to manufacture date of serial number. Sent them back. Liked them other than the dead stuck pixels. Just ordered the g70a for 650usd hopefully it’s good no blb or bad pixels
omg you did so good them model number's such a mouth full, pat your self on the back!
I think it is a bit weird choice to lock overdrive setting. While similar level of overshoot on my monitor is usually not noticeable at 60fps, there are cases where it is extremely noticeable...
I do think this is a quality control issue, because it will not allow you to use better mode when needed if overshoot is noticeable (if monitor actually has better mode without VRR).
Good monitor, but what I don't undrestand is why they didn't stick to their VA panel. With a similarly performing VA panel like their curved Odyssey options, this would have been a killer offering.
Great vid! Is it 4k?
I’m stuck between getting this Samsung Odyssey G7 or the LG 27GR93U. Any advice?
Good to see you got a unit with good uniformity.
I won't be buying a new monitor until there are self-emitting pixel panels (OLED, QD-OLED, microLED, self-emitting QD - whatever). I'm sick of backlight bleeding / IPS glow lottery. Also, while many manufacturers proudly advertise high contrast, they totally ignore people who like to watch movies or work in dimly lit environments, thus many monitors have too high minimal brightness setting.
Recently I saw a Dell UltraSharp display for 1000$. Should be professional quality, right? Well, it had bad backlight uniformity on white background, and also the blacks were gray and dirty, much worse than on my old cheaper IPS monitor. Only NEC and Eizo are acceptable but still not as good as OLEDs.
Yo you seem frustrated bro. Why you so passionate about this
100% agree with you, the high minimal brightness NEEDS to be talked about more
Hardware Unboxed, the gold standard of monitor reviews!
Can't wait for your review of QD-OLED
Odyssey G7 S28 4K 144Hz 28" vs Sony X930E 4K 60Hz 65"
Contrast
1000 : 1 = 5,744 : 1
Brightness (Peak)
400 = 1,442 cd/m²
I guess it highly depends on what you need.
Competitive gamers might want to sit at a desk, have 1ms and 144Hz, but gamers who just want to enjoy singleplayer and graphics are much better off with a TV setup.
At least I feel really comfortable on my couch. :)
Everyone should get what they like. There is advantages and disadvantages to each and every screen.
Thank you Hardware Unboxed for always testing stuff.
I can't wait for your review of the new alienware 34" QDOLED because when it is priced around 1200$ it could be the best monitor with a reasonable price :)
would it be possible to make a video about the new dldsr from nvidia? i would realy appreciate it, not only preformance difference but also how to set it up correctly in nvidia settings and in game settings,when i use normal dsr or dldsr i get the same fps drop!? love the videos
You should review the smart TV version, I have that one. S28bg700, you can enable vrr and change response time. Its amazing. Its the exact same spec wise, just.. smart TV features which enable so much more.
can you guys test the new DLDSR 4k/1440p vs native 4k/1440p with dlss on and off? would be very nice to see a comparison and your guys opinion on this new type of AI downscaler.
I love the HUB Essentials Checklist, can I suggest a grade to go with it? Either a percentage or a school-style letter grade.
I can't wait for Samsung and LG CES 2022 reviews! Some of these upcoming 4k 144hz+ mini-led ultrawides look insane!
Great job! Can we get a ViewSonic XG2431 review please?
long time fan man, hey do you think you can do a review of the Huawei MateView GT?
so for 450 right now, it's a good one or would you recommend to wait a little as new monitors look promising?
Nice review! Cant wait for the Samsung QD-OLED review.. fuck that g-sync alienware one.. no one needed that.
Have you considered autographing and reselling your tested and calibrated monitor samples to fans?
Especially for the monitors that you recommend, I bet there would be plenty of takers.
I have the curved Odyssey G7 and absolutely loving it so far! Had it for about two months and got it for about $350 after multiple sales and coupons were attached.
Do you still feel the same way about it?
@@nialmurphy9622 the monitor? Yea it is still my main for gaming and working well. It has a quirk. Sometimes I turn off the monitor manually while the PC is on. When turning it back on, it ocassionally doesnt connect to the signal properly and black screens. Simple hold power button, wait 5 secs, turn back on to fix, but thats the only issue I have had.
If you can wait, I would see what comes out later this year as far as monitors go. There are going to be some impressive options and I think if you’re going for 4k, you’d want at least a 32” monitor.
This. For 4K I’m not going under 32 inches.
@@ermagherd1204 With clear reasoning, tell me what your gripes are with the glorious G7 27" or 32" panels. They are endgame monitors. Nothing compares.
28" max for me. Anything larger is cumbersome. I sit within 3 or 4'
Thanks for the info.
Hey, love the monitor reviews. There's one additional thing I'd like to see: something for scale. You can't really make out the scale through a screen and when you guys show it on a plain white table, it's kinda hard to guess how big it is for someone who doesn't come into touch with monitors all that often. It would be really nice if you could put something like a Corsair 4000D next to it. Or better yet, an entire setup. Computer, mouse, keyboard, mousepad. It would make picking out monitor sizes so much easier. Thanks
a 27 / 28 monitor is gonna be same size 4 all
We require a banana for scale.
But then you would need to know the scale of those items the monitor is compared against? I personally don't know how large Corsair 4000D is so it would be meaningless for me to see a monitor placed next to it. It's easier to just look up actual product dimensions online and just measure if I'm curious, but I do understand that having a full setup around the monitor would give better perspective.
The hub essentials checklist is an excellent addition
I just got an xbox series x and play warzone almost exclusively. Being that response time and fps are most important, would you recommend this monitor or should I save a bit and go with a 1440 monitor?
at this point i am definitely going to wait for the qd oled monitors they talked about at ces.
Thank you. You did amazing
Tim, thanks for your review! If only this was 32"...
I own a g5
It’s 32 inch curved
144hz , I run it at 120hz
It’s nice! But only DP 1.3
And not even hdmi 2.0 much less 2.1 but for me
I truly love it!
I’d buy another someday
With 1.4 DP
And 2.1 hdmi
My screen was perfect on this monitor but on a Samsung tv we own
Screen has defection in areas.
The G5 I own on a sim racing monitor stand
Pulled in close! to me
I melt into the games, not just racing ones.
Shout out to the VA 27 inch Samsung g7 VA pannel . Mines VA too .
Fast! And good motion clarity and great color! Even without HDR the color pops!!!!!!!
This monitor was at bestbuy today they had an offer for open box excellent condition for $584 which is a great deal for a 4K and gaming display
So should i turn vrr off or on? And what color calibration in the osd do you recommend?
Is this monitor good for video editing ? content creation (aftereffect, premiere pro..) ?
thank you !
I have two of these 28-inch workhorses in a dual monitor setup; Got em for 600$ each from Best Buy with the latest firmware. Well worth the $$$.
After some color calibration, i can confirm it works great on both my Xbox & M1 MacBook pro.
What method did i use to calibrate
Do you have suggestion for optimized settings for pc gaming? Thanks
9:20 Tim, how do you use backlight strobe in m28u with vrr on? Mine whenever aim stabilizer on, the freesync is automatically turned off.
Awesome video. So, What's the best monitor I can buy with $500,00. What's the best option ? thx
Thank you bro!!
Can we do the checklist for all the previous relevant monitors. It's a great resource.
Any chance you guys can review the Gigabyte M32U in the future?
I own the original G7 and once you get past the curvature it's a pretty stellar monitor overall. I never expeirenced the stutters and glitches many spoke of when it was first released. And in my experience it's performed excellently at 240hz in all of the FPS/BR games I play with great response time and very little, if any, noticeable motion blur! I'm coming from a 1080p 240hz Viewsonic Elite XG270 which has some of the best blur-reduction on the market and just wanted to make the switch up to 1440p without losing the framerate and for a VA panel I think the G7 did/does an excellent job of that!? It was a toss-up between the G7 or the Asus XG27AQM (I tried both) and for the cost, I just couldn't justify the Asus over the Samsung. Now, when the prices come down a bit, I think Fast-IPS panels will be undeniably BETTER options, however, with the market in it's current state they just don't make sense.
You probably never experienced the stutters and glitches because you had the updated firmware. Others who had this issue could just update their firmware. It was mostly related to GSync/FreeSync.
Also IPS really suffer with contrast and IPS glow. Which is why a VA panel is nice however a lot of VA panels struggle with ghosting and motion blur. Fortunately the Odyssey G7 doesn't have those issues.
Is it possible that newer units have better factory calibration? When calibrating via DisplayCal using Colormunki Display colorimeter, factory settings with brightness of 50 resulted in immediately being at the "green" values during step one. My previous monitor, MSI G242, needed some adjustment first during calibration.
GG for the review! I bought this monitor last week, and I think its a best value! Its only HDR400 but its good for gaming. Im not satisfied about the color. I'm trying to calibrate RGB. For now im using 49-50-50 but it seems a little Yellow.. What about your RGB settings? thanks