Hi any chance you have the HDR settings for the M28U kicking about or know of some that you agree with. I have calabirated my PC to custom 1 for the SDR and it looks amazing so far. A lot brighter than I got it.
They did set the standard for low cost this last year. Maybe they will keep it up and keept launching low cost options. Although it may take longer than we want it to.
Purchased the m28u, extremely happy with my decision. Not sure if mines just the latests update but looks 10x better then what it dose in your vid I’m getting zero of that motion blur you were getting in warzones, and zero over shoot and under shoot at 120frame might be the video but what im seeing mine looks a lot better then the g70a in this video and most of the others I’m watching about the g70a a lot of these problems people are bringing up I have zero of in my eyes defiantly the best monitor for ps5 other then the Sony m9
Solid choice. I had the M28U as my daily for months. It was my favorite monitor until the samsung, but it's not like it was massively better. Very small differences and the latest firmware does help a lot.; Solid setup and GG's!
G7 IPS is a beast, I had the best gaming immersive experience with this monitor. Upgraded from a 4K 60Htz I was getting so much better score in FPS games just by trying this monitor with gsync on.
Thanks for the video, it helped me research what would be best for a PC and PS5 setup! I was going to get a M28U but through Samsung Direct buy I was able to get the G70a for $495 after tax!
Great review. But As we all should know by now freesync monitors on an rtx card will still allow you to enable gsync. Hopefully you knew this. But if not you can enable gsync in your GeForce control panel. Thanks
I've just ordered the G70A over the M28U trusting your words that it's more responsive. Both are at the same price for me. Will share my experience when it arrives 🥂 😉
Just a question. When you experienced the G70A smoother than the M28U, was the later on F07 firmware? Cause as per what I have read the performance double regarding input lag
Hey thanks for the input and question. I don't think you will be disappointed. Yes the M28U was using the latest firmware F07, the Samsung is also at the latest firmware available from Samsung direct (at the time of this video).
@@sokolinek well despite the few stuck/desd pixels ( some white some black ) and despite the dark edges. I'm really happy with its performances. I will replace it with a new one. But I'm not using the G-sync cause it's giving me the feeling of jumpy frame same like V-sync which is turned off in game and Nvidia panel. Same goes for input lag. It's smoother to set it off. I'm still investigating that though posting questions in several threads regarding that. The Standard pixel responsivness setting is really smooth. Never mind the UFO test for blur buster you really won't notice it while gaming and it's minimal. When you get it make sure to calibrate colors to your liking. No need for a tool. Just play around with it till you are satisfied. The games really feels so responsive. I'm happy with it. And as TechCessory said "your won't be disappointed" 😃
Got the G70A for 649$ @ best buy using on my xbox series x and boy its beautiful, 4K HDR 120GHZ on cold war looks amazing ! Along side the Alienware - AW510H Wired 7.1 Gaming Headset
Great video! Liked and subd. Currently looking for a great monitor for ps5 and Xbox. Right now the MU28 and Samsung G7A are both $650. I was also looking at the l mU32 for $740. Thoughts? Im nervous that the 32 may be too big as I will also use it for work. Love the Samsung one but am scared it may not be good in a dark room setting
Thanks for the sub! I hope I was quick enough to respond to help out. I agree with you on the Samsung, the panel is bright and does have some backlight bleed in darker settings. If that is a concern, get the gigabyte for sure. Personally I don't like the size of 32, it just seems to be cumbersome. But I have gotten used to using one in the past. Hope this helps and GG's
pulled the trigger on an m28u, really appreciate the in depth look into these both but i gotta say price definitely played a factor... any chance on an update to this video with the most current firmware for the m28u? supposedly fixes some of the issues you noticed
Hey good choice, you can't go wrong either way. I do have one of the more updated firmware versions in this video. At least the one that helps with input lag. If there is a new release, I may get make an updated video. Although I might be booked out a ways 😂 Thanks for the input btw, it is always appreciated 👊
@4K 60FPS this monitor has a vrr minimum of 20fps Do you should be fine. The monitor can handle it. The ps5 on the other hand , has a poor VRR range in comparison to the Xbox series x But it should work fine down to 45fps Very few games drop lower than that I can only think of Elden Ring
I mean it's true that HDR10 in games is not much to look at most of the time. Some games optimize way better for HDR. Can't wait to see real Dolby Vision in games. It's technically there, but the game is developed using Dolby Vision, it's just enabled for the game.
Solid choice. I had the M28U as my daily for months. It was my favorite monitor until the samsung, but it's not like it was massively better. Very small differences and the latest firmware does help a lot.; Solid setup and GG's!
Why are they displaying totally different images on the ufo tests? They don’t even look like the same test. The gigabyte is showing some funky ass distorted looking curved lines shit. What is that? Why did you do that?
You just came on to troll today? I appreciate the input, they were recorded at 2 different times during an upgrade of camera gear. Gotta use what I have, everybody starts somewhere.
I kind of assumed it would be similar to the M28U vs the G70A. If price is better on the MSI or Gigabyte, there is a good argument to buy it. I have not personally tested it, but I am sure it would hold up.
These monitors are now even cheaper 2 years from the video creation date. I wonder what the performance difference is between them now with updated firmware.
Thanks for your great video, what I wanted to ask you is because it was more of a test for the pc and unfortunately I can't decide between the 2, which one would you recommend for the Ps5 online shooter games?
Honestly, I would choose whichever is the better deal at the time. They are both great monitors for the PS5. Samsung tends to pop a bit more with color and Gigabyte has a little better calibration menus overall. But they both don't disappoint. Thanks for the questions btw!
@@BainCustom So after a bit more research I found that: „They both have HDMI 2.1 inputs, but the Samsung has 40 Gbps bandwidth while the Gigabyte is limited to 24 Gbps, so it needs Display Stream Compression for certain signals. Isn‘t that a problem if I want to play 4k on 120hz in Warzone?
The reliability reviews on the Samsung G70 A are terrible. Add to it that Samsung only provides a one year warranty with terrible support. That should tell you how much faith they have in the quality of this monitor. Buyer beware
24 months manufacturers warranty is GOOD! The G7A is also £120 cheaper here in the UK than the M28U who provide 36months warranty but it only works if you have more than FIVE dead pixels!!??? I'm sooo torn! lol
From what I understand it is 3 dead pixels over here. Still rockin the G70A. Can only complain about its problem of not wanting to be paired with a second monitor.
I agree that real-world experience is a more useful test than synthetic benchmarks, but why test HDR? HDR400 is fake HDR (see Hardware Unboxed reviews as to why), I leave it off on my M28U, the image is just flat and whites are washed out with HDR on. Also would be good to have some transparency as to whether the manufacturers are supplying you with the products and providing any financial incentives.
I bought both of these myself. Normally I will say if they have (very few at this point), or UA-cam will pop up with a notice that it includes paid advertisement/sponsorship. Yeah HDR400 is not reliable, especially compared to a TV. But I get asked about it all the time, best HDR settings and so on. It's actually more for the console users than anything. All next gen consoles will automatically output HDR in game and in movies. So I throw in a test to compare and see if it's any good. Some PC users are interested too. Thanks for the input btw.
Well, I bought the Samsung, and I don't regret it! First I checked for bleeding, clouding and dead pixels, there is none. I'm so lucky the first try I won the monitor lotery. I tryed your settings, but they where too bright for me. (I'm in a low dimmed room or dark room mostly) so I cranked the brightness down and it's perfect. In speed and hz it isnt a match compared to Omen X 27, but I have great 4k resolution and everything looks so much sharper and clearer. Only the Xbox One X looks like crap, no matter what settings I try and also only getting 4k 60hz or 1440p 120 hz but no 4k 120 hz. Also updated the monitor's firmware from 1006 to 1008.1 but it still looks like crap. So, I ordered the Series X wich is coming tomorrow. Hope that makes a difference.
O yeah you will see a difference on the Series X. Those legacy console don't quite do it justice. But nice snag and glad to hear you won the lottery on this one. I think I did too, which I am happy about. good luck and GG's.
@@BainCustom In the end I still swapped the Samsung monitor for Gigabyte M28U. My keyboard is exactly for the monitor, so I needed to replace the keyboard every time to reach the OSD button wich was after a few days doing that very annoying. And the image quality I still was not quite satisfied about. The M28U has the OSD button in the back, it's much easier. And... The M28U really blew me away. Updated firmware and can handle One X as well Series X. Also replaced all cat 6 ethernet cables in the house for cat 8 ethernet cables. This monitor really is amazing, so so sharp!! And very smooth! Still want to thank you for the review between Samsung and Gigabyte, they are both amazing, so you just take what suits you the best.
How about that update nr7 for m28/32u which makes the screen run almost at 500 nits. What you say to that? Does that makes the gigabyte a better option?
amazing video , you helped me alot, i bought 32 neo g7 and i thought its not worth 1200$ and 32 felt too big and make me feel dizzy while playing so i'm returning it and getting one of these for 600$ but i'm afraid ppl are saying 4K is not working in 28 inch
I get the argument for 4K not being worth it at 28 in. But, I do see the difference personally. The Pixel per inch density is nice and you can always downscale for extra frames if you want.
Not hands on but here is a short that shows the differences from G70B to G70A - ua-cam.com/users/shortsPlitFW-hCTA?feature=share I also did a top 3 4K monitors mentioning the GP950 - ua-cam.com/video/NlKJ8aLm7YA/v-deo.html
I just bought and returned 3 G70A screens (intended for a triple monitor sim racing rig). The reason being that only 2 monitors work but a 3rd one cannot work for some ID issue that has yet to be sorted out via firmware. Too bad as they were nice screens but the M28U doesn't have that problem so any sim racers might want to steer clear of the Samsung.
I 100% appreciate you saying that. That was a question I had based on some of the issues surrounding their input issues. I also wanted to know if the updated firmware on new units fixed that problem. Now we have our answer.
@@BainCustom I even did the 1008.1 firmware update (from Korean site) and no change. Mine came pre-loaded with 1007.1, yet the US site still lists 1004 as the latest! lol
Did you test the Omen 27U 4K already yet? I own the Omen X 27, and bought the Omen 27U 4K, but there are almost no reviews on it due to input lag or respons times. I can't really choose between Omen 27U, Gigabyte M28U, or Samsung Odyssey G7 AG70
@@BainCustom thanks. I heared from a lot of people to stay away from Gigabyte so I choose for Samsung. I tryed the Omen 27U 4K but sending it back, mouse keyboard as well controller are extremely heavy so lots of input lag, even when I cranked the sensitivity up. Ordered now the Samsung g70. But I don't think there is a monitor in this price range who can beat my Omen X 27 (1440p) except for 4k resolution, but input lag, response lag etc Omen X 27 is a beast. Despite it's a TN panel it sometimes looks like ips. Watching angles I don't care about, usually I sit in front of the monitor, not at the sides. I game and watch movies often in a dark room I really hope Samsung has no glow or backlight bleed, wich seems to be "normal" these days for ips... Well, I can't accept that I really hate it. We'll see, if Samsung is not a improvement compared to Omen X 27 it's going straight back.
@@BainCustom oh and I wanted to say I really enjoy your video's, you seem like a very chill person I love your nonchalant relaxed attitude and you speak in a way that's really a joy to listen to.
Have you compared both with PS5? im looking forward to buy the G70, i also watched your other review from this monitor but i want to see if without G-Sync its still winning to the M28U. Maybe with de VRR on... Thanks!
I have used both monitors with the ps5. They both score extremely well, if it is specifically just for console then buying the one that is a lower cost is a better value in my opinion. I will say I haven't tested out the vrr on console yet. Although I'm sure it would help, I'm not sure how much.
@@BainCustom Thanks man! i finally bought it ans just installed it. Do you have any tutorial for firmware update? Im a bit confused with the setup of de G7, its already in my hands
Thanks for this review ^^ funny enough I was actually looking at the G70A since it was discounted at $580, but now the M28U is gonna sell for $450 during Black Friday...I'm probably gonna pull the trigger on the M28U 👀
Deciding between hp x27q, Omen 27i, and the m28u for my Xbox series x. Any suggestion? Money isn’t a huge decision maker. Just want to know if the m28u is worth it over a standard 1440p monitor.
I do like a solid 1440p monitor with great black level performance and high color accuracy. Of course the basics for gaming as well. But 4K is setting new standards of gaming and will be the go-to upgrade in the coming years. I think 4K outperforms 1440p on console, because you can still do 1440p and 1080p if you want and 4K has more support than 1440p currently.
@@BainCustom I’m only using the Xbox series x. Always played console but been using the same 1080 Vizio tv for the last 10 years. Since my comment I’ve pushed it down and am looking for a budget 1440p gaming monitor for console. Any recommendations would be appreciated for the u.s.a. Mostly play fps games and fifa if that helps thanks for the reply!
Why are you showing like an ultra wide video that looks almost like a fisheye lens as the video for the M28U and then a normal video for the G7? I don’t get it. Why wouldn’t it be an apple to apples comparison?
You just came on to troll today? I appreciate the input, they were recorded at 2 different times during an upgrade of camera gear. Gotta use what I have, everybody starts somewhere.
@@BainCustom I wasn’t trolling.. I genuinely wanted to know why they looked so different. It’s not that crazy of an observation, one looked like a fisheye lens and one looked normal, the lines of the test were bulged out and super distorted looking and the other looked normal. Which is why I asked. Maybe I missed you explaining it during the video, and if so my bad. I wasn’t criticizing your equipment or what you have to work with, I genuinely wanted to know why they looked so different.
Greetings! Yeah that is a tough call for the PS5. Generally speaking I would use the gigabyte for console more often, but they both do well. The G70A will have backlight bleed, whereas I never really saw that on the M28U.
What i don t understand is how is the samsung not a smooth as the gigabyte in Warzone =??? both run at 144 + FPS 4 K .... its the same speed =??? HOW explain.
I am working on a video breaking down the cards to use for each resolution/performance of monitor. A 3080 is about the minimum requirement for 4k, it will work. But you will probably see a good dip in fps.
Hi i just buy the G70A, the options for low imput lag / Black equaliser / Black level are greyed out. Is it because i'm using a diplay port cable ? Is Hdmi is better than DP in this case ?
Hey krol. Thanks for the question. The reason they are greyed out is because your Freesync/Variable Sync is on. Turn it off and you can change the settings. Then turn it back on.
On the M28U? Currently the PS5 does not support VRR, unless they rolled out the update sooner than expected. Could be due to HDR being on too. But it wouldn't change the console to allow it.
gotcha, Samsung is a bit more unique and locked down with the PS5. I am not even sure you can get it to be turned on, unless you remove all HDR features on the PS5.
32 is a bit much to get used to. But if you can get used to it, it will be nice for RPG's. Which would mean that the Gigabyte would be the recommendation.
After watching some recommendations I bought the M28U, in terms of specs and the generic tests it beat out the G70A. Unfortunately, I returned it due to dead pixels and news of QC issues. After replacing it with the G70A I'm not going back...the specs on paper might sound better for Gigabyte but after trying both, G70A delivers a superior experience.
That was kind of my conclusion. The experience was just better. No that depends on the game, but overall I have no issues with the G70A. Hopefully I can test out that Neo G7 soon, that looks like a great monitor.
Absolutely you can. You just have to adjust your in game settings to 1080p. That way you don't have to change the display resolution back and forth every time you switch.
I have a evga3080ti paired with a i7 12700k. Looking for a flat panel display and I'm liking what I see here between the 2 monitors. I'm just stuck on which one lol.
Quick question, do both monitors have built in speakers/microphones? or do you need to attach headphones/external speakers? Also if they do, how is the sound quality?
I believe both do have speakers, but they for sure have a 3.5mm headphone jack. I honestly never use the monitor speaker and always hookup a small powered speaker to the monitor.
I have the dell Alienware 25 Gaming Monitor - AW2518H NVIDIA G-Sync 240Hz right now and i’m thinking about upgrading it to Samsung G70A Definitely let me know if I should upgrade to the Samsung please thanks
Well that Alienware is great in its own right. So it's an upgrade in some areas (resolution), where your motion may be better with Alienware. But the G70A still has good motion and is worth the buy. I would say test it for 2 weeks and see how you feel about it.
@@BainCustom yes I love my dell Alienware 25 Gaming Monitor - AW2518Hf and I appreciate you getting back to me bro and I love your videos bro! And The G70A is Probably what I’m getting because I want to 4K! I am going to upgrade the graphics card in my computer to a 3070 bro!
Worth pointing out that the M28U is now G-Sync Compatible, if not officially. I also strongly recommend avoiding curved screens if you need a monitor for productivity or play scrolling 2D games, which are nauseating compared to a flat panel.
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Samsung G70A Calibration:
SDR Calibration: (I may update, lmk what you think)
Picture Mode - Custom | Response Time - Faster | Adaptive-Sync - On | Low-Input Lag - On | Black Equalizer - 13 | Brightness - 60 | Contrast - 85 | Sharpness - 60 | Red - 48 | Green - 50 | Blue - 48 | Gamma - Mode1 | Saturation - 50 | Local Dimming - On | PC/AV Mode - PC
HDR Calibration:
Picture Mode - HDR Dynamic | Response Time - Faster | Adaptive-Sync - On | Low-Input Lag - On | Black Equalizer - 13 | Brightness - 100 | Contrast - 75 | Sharpness - 60 | Red - 48 | Green - 50 | Blue - 48 | Color Tone - Normal | Saturation - 60 | Local Dimming - On | PC/AV Mode - PC
Gigabyte M28U Calibration:
SDR Calibration (preferred settings)
Preset - Custom 1 / Black Equalizer - 10 / Overdrive - Smart OD / FreeSync - Enabled / Brightness - 85 / Contrast - 63 / Color Vibrance - 9 / Sharpness - 5 / Gamma - 2.0 / Color Temp - Warm / Local Dimming - Off
HDR coming soon...
Do u have changed anything in hdr Mode yet?
Hi any chance you have the HDR settings for the M28U kicking about or know of some that you agree with. I have calabirated my PC to custom 1 for the SDR and it looks amazing so far. A lot brighter than I got it.
G7 is available for less then 500$ here i think I'm gonna buy it since its the only one that gives hdmi 2.1 for the price 😍
Please update us on the HDR Settings for the M28u please 🙏🏽
Can you do this exact config information on the G7 1440p 240hz pls 🙏🏻
The M28U absolutely supports G-Sync too - it's just not officially certified. If it wasn't working for you I've no idea why!
How to enable it?
@@rusyaraiju2232 In Nvidia control panel the usual way...
im just glad gigabyte is trying bring the ridiculous pricing on 4k monitors back to normal price ranges.
They did set the standard for low cost this last year. Maybe they will keep it up and keept launching low cost options. Although it may take longer than we want it to.
Great video sir. I just ordered the Samsung so was looking at some more reviews to tide me over until it arrives next month.
Purchased the m28u, extremely happy with my decision. Not sure if mines just the latests update but looks 10x better then what it dose in your vid I’m getting zero of that motion blur you were getting in warzones, and zero over shoot and under shoot at 120frame might be the video but what im seeing mine looks a lot better then the g70a in this video and most of the others I’m watching about the g70a a lot of these problems people are bringing up I have zero of in my eyes defiantly the best monitor for ps5 other then the Sony m9
I just ordered the m28u for 530.
@@cyclechris6591 I just ordered it for 430$😅
Solid choice. I had the M28U as my daily for months. It was my favorite monitor until the samsung, but it's not like it was massively better. Very small differences and the latest firmware does help a lot.; Solid setup and GG's!
@@ques9558 is it still this price somewhere
@@DustinGorman I ordered it on cyber Monday after Black Friday at Best Buy but i just checked it’s back up to 530$
Thanks for this awesome review, I know that this video is older, but I managed to buy the 28" Samsung Odyssey 4k for 349,- Euros off amazon prime day!
G7 IPS is a beast, I had the best gaming immersive experience with this monitor. Upgraded from a 4K 60Htz I was getting so much better score in FPS games just by trying this monitor with gsync on.
Nice! That is good to hear then!
Might pick me one up 🤫
what gpu do you have? And what are your specs
Is it responsive enough for fast pace competitive fps i mean it should be decent for the average casual gamer.
@@pcgamerzzzchannel3407 wanna know the same
WOW! You're really good at this product reviewing. I now want both monitors so that means none presently lol
I just got the m32u. No obnoxious RGB, no over the top “gamer” design. Simple, plain and I LOVE IT!
That is true!
Thanks for the video, it helped me research what would be best for a PC and PS5 setup! I was going to get a M28U but through Samsung Direct buy I was able to get the G70a for $495 after tax!
Just ordered one for $550 after taxes. Upgrading from a shitty 6 year old 4k 60hz monitor with like 60 or 70% sRGB lol. I can't wait.
How did u get it that cheap im seeing it for $600
Wow, that is a steal and 100% worth buying. I might even grab two at that price 😂.
What!!!!!! I paid $800 plus tax came out to $850. WTF!!!!!
@@luisrios1989 how is it? Do u play ps5 on it? I couldnt get the m9 it sold out instantly. So i bought it will be picking it ip later
Thank you! It was great!🎉
very good! Glad to hear it.
Fantastic review! This is exactly what I was looking for.
Glad to hear it!
Great review. But As we all should know by now freesync monitors on an rtx card will still allow you to enable gsync. Hopefully you knew this. But if not you can enable gsync in your GeForce control panel. Thanks
IT does indeed. That extra little sticker though seems to make a big deal, even if they both are using Vsync.
Thanks a lot for the video and review. It helps us choose, even after a year, because almost all models go on sale.
Thank you! This is so much better than simple theoretical tests 🙂
Thx for the revieuw!! Gonna buy this monitor today on sell for 595 euro, think its a good deal!!
The G70? That is a solid price. Not bad at all.
I liked the U28U more overall. however the youtube compression is really not doing the actual monitors quality any justice
I've just ordered the G70A over the M28U trusting your words that it's more responsive. Both are at the same price for me. Will share my experience when it arrives 🥂 😉
Just a question. When you experienced the G70A smoother than the M28U, was the later on F07 firmware? Cause as per what I have read the performance double regarding input lag
Hey thanks for the input and question. I don't think you will be disappointed. Yes the M28U was using the latest firmware F07, the Samsung is also at the latest firmware available from Samsung direct (at the time of this video).
@@BainCustom Glad to hear that. I'm really excited to try it. Been using 1080p 60hz all my life.
hey bro, any news about your experience? I am now wondering which 4k 144Hz to buy and I am tending to take G70A exactly because of this review here.
@@sokolinek well despite the few stuck/desd pixels ( some white some black ) and despite the dark edges. I'm really happy with its performances. I will replace it with a new one.
But I'm not using the G-sync cause it's giving me the feeling of jumpy frame same like V-sync which is turned off in game and Nvidia panel. Same goes for input lag. It's smoother to set it off. I'm still investigating that though posting questions in several threads regarding that.
The Standard pixel responsivness setting is really smooth. Never mind the UFO test for blur buster you really won't notice it while gaming and it's minimal.
When you get it make sure to calibrate colors to your liking. No need for a tool. Just play around with it till you are satisfied.
The games really feels so responsive. I'm happy with it.
And as TechCessory said "your won't be disappointed" 😃
Got the G70A for 649$ @ best buy using on my xbox series x and boy its beautiful, 4K HDR 120GHZ on cold war looks amazing ! Along side the Alienware - AW510H Wired 7.1 Gaming Headset
Cold war has some good graphics. I just downloaded Elden Ring, can't wait to fire that up in 4k! Great deals btw and gg's
How’d you get it for that price ?
Great review!!! Thank you for reviewing FPS 1st person viewer (WarZone) gameplay!
For sure! Thanks for the support. Hope to see you in the next one.
Outstanding analysis!
Hey thanks. Glad it was useful!
be good to revisit the m28u after the F10 update
After watching your video I decided to buy Samsung. Thanks for the great review! 👏
Hey man really enjoy this review. Cool chill personality just chill vibe. New subscriber
Solid! I appreciate that and appreciate you for subscribing. More videos to come soon.
Great video! Liked and subd. Currently looking for a great monitor for ps5 and Xbox. Right now the MU28 and Samsung G7A are both $650. I was also looking at the l mU32 for $740. Thoughts? Im nervous that the 32 may be too big as I will also use it for work. Love the Samsung one but am scared it may not be good in a dark room setting
Thanks for the sub! I hope I was quick enough to respond to help out. I agree with you on the Samsung, the panel is bright and does have some backlight bleed in darker settings. If that is a concern, get the gigabyte for sure. Personally I don't like the size of 32, it just seems to be cumbersome. But I have gotten used to using one in the past. Hope this helps and GG's
M32U is on sale on Amazon for like $600 rn. It’s a good monitor just need to do the firmware update. Highly recommend for console gaming.
@@Dr.Smelly My fav VFM monitor for ps5.....
pulled the trigger on an m28u, really appreciate the in depth look into these both but i gotta say price definitely played a factor... any chance on an update to this video with the most current firmware for the m28u? supposedly fixes some of the issues you noticed
Hey good choice, you can't go wrong either way. I do have one of the more updated firmware versions in this video. At least the one that helps with input lag. If there is a new release, I may get make an updated video. Although I might be booked out a ways 😂
Thanks for the input btw, it is always appreciated 👊
@4K 60FPS this monitor has a vrr minimum of 20fps
Do you should be fine.
The monitor can handle it.
The ps5 on the other hand , has a poor VRR range in comparison to the Xbox series x
But it should work fine down to 45fps
Very few games drop lower than that
I can only think of Elden Ring
@@BainCustom hi, thank you for the review, wich one do you think is better now with all updates?, i still cant decide :=)
I don't know why so many problems with the well used hdr 400 is more than enough in fact the hdr in the games is something secondary.
I mean it's true that HDR10 in games is not much to look at most of the time. Some games optimize way better for HDR. Can't wait to see real Dolby Vision in games. It's technically there, but the game is developed using Dolby Vision, it's just enabled for the game.
Got the 28u already for about more then a year i think and it`s good for me with ps5 3080ti and xbox Series X
Solid choice. I had the M28U as my daily for months. It was my favorite monitor until the samsung, but it's not like it was massively better. Very small differences and the latest firmware does help a lot.; Solid setup and GG's!
Great video! Quick question, is the Samsung g70a mountable?
It is indeed. Comes with an extra bracket for mounting.
Which one would you recommend for the ps5?
I have the g7 odyssey for my PS5 anyway I can adjust the black level mines grayed out and can't remove power save plus
Try turning off the adaptive sync and setting the black level, then turn adaptive sync back on.
Now they need to make a 32” G7 4k
With a better lighting panel, but yes I agree.
Coming soon. Neo g7 32”
Why are they displaying totally different images on the ufo tests? They don’t even look like the same test. The gigabyte is showing some funky ass distorted looking curved lines shit. What is that? Why did you do that?
You just came on to troll today? I appreciate the input, they were recorded at 2 different times during an upgrade of camera gear. Gotta use what I have, everybody starts somewhere.
Would you recommend the gigabyte one for ps5 and Xbox seriesX
Hey TechCessory, any thought on MSI MAG281URF vs G70A? Price point is kinda similar
I kind of assumed it would be similar to the M28U vs the G70A. If price is better on the MSI or Gigabyte, there is a good argument to buy it. I have not personally tested it, but I am sure it would hold up.
These monitors are now even cheaper 2 years from the video creation date.
I wonder what the performance difference is between them now with updated firmware.
Thanks for your great video, what I wanted to ask you is because it was more of a test for the pc and unfortunately I can't decide between the 2, which one would you recommend for the Ps5 online shooter games?
Same question here. I just can‘t decide which I should pick for my ps5 … Playing Apex,COD,Fortnite but also Story Games
Honestly, I would choose whichever is the better deal at the time. They are both great monitors for the PS5. Samsung tends to pop a bit more with color and Gigabyte has a little better calibration menus overall. But they both don't disappoint. Thanks for the questions btw!
@@BainCustom So after a bit more research I found that: „They both have HDMI 2.1 inputs, but the Samsung has 40 Gbps bandwidth while the Gigabyte is limited to 24 Gbps, so it needs Display Stream Compression for certain signals.
Isn‘t that a problem if I want to play 4k on 120hz in Warzone?
And who have the lower inputlag do you know this .
@@Bingos831 Samsung‘s input lag is lower but on the newest firmware the gigabyte has a low input lag aswell
The reliability reviews on the Samsung G70 A are terrible. Add to it that Samsung only provides a one year warranty with terrible support. That should tell you how much faith they have in the quality of this monitor. Buyer beware
24 months manufacturers warranty is GOOD! The G7A is also £120 cheaper here in the UK than the M28U who provide 36months warranty but it only works if you have more than FIVE dead pixels!!??? I'm sooo torn! lol
From what I understand it is 3 dead pixels over here. Still rockin the G70A. Can only complain about its problem of not wanting to be paired with a second monitor.
hello i do video editing and ofc also gaming and i am wondering which of the 2 whould be better for me (before you ask my GPU is the 4070 Ti Super)
Okay, that was for pc. What about for the Ps5? is the gigabyte more recommended?
This guy right of the bat earned my Sub .
which monitor is best to buy for FPS games? 1440p 280hz or 4k 144 hz? I'm thinking to put RTX 4070 Super or 4080 Super to the monitor.
I mean it depends. If you play on PC mostly then 1440p 280hz and if console then 4k 144hz
I agree that real-world experience is a more useful test than synthetic benchmarks, but why test HDR? HDR400 is fake HDR (see Hardware Unboxed reviews as to why), I leave it off on my M28U, the image is just flat and whites are washed out with HDR on.
Also would be good to have some transparency as to whether the manufacturers are supplying you with the products and providing any financial incentives.
I bought both of these myself. Normally I will say if they have (very few at this point), or UA-cam will pop up with a notice that it includes paid advertisement/sponsorship.
Yeah HDR400 is not reliable, especially compared to a TV. But I get asked about it all the time, best HDR settings and so on. It's actually more for the console users than anything. All next gen consoles will automatically output HDR in game and in movies. So I throw in a test to compare and see if it's any good. Some PC users are interested too.
Thanks for the input btw.
Another note, Tweakers says the inputlag for Samsung is 21,4 ms and Gigabyte 12,2 ms. How come the Samsung feels more smoother?
That is not right. The Samsung is much lower in my testing and through rtings. The gigabyte is even lower than that now after a few firmware updates.
Getting a M32U
Well, I bought the Samsung, and I don't regret it! First I checked for bleeding, clouding and dead pixels, there is none. I'm so lucky the first try I won the monitor lotery. I tryed your settings, but they where too bright for me. (I'm in a low dimmed room or dark room mostly) so I cranked the brightness down and it's perfect. In speed and hz it isnt a match compared to Omen X 27, but I have great 4k resolution and everything looks so much sharper and clearer. Only the Xbox One X looks like crap, no matter what settings I try and also only getting 4k 60hz or 1440p 120 hz but no 4k 120 hz. Also updated the monitor's firmware from 1006 to 1008.1 but it still looks like crap. So, I ordered the Series X wich is coming tomorrow. Hope that makes a difference.
O yeah you will see a difference on the Series X. Those legacy console don't quite do it justice. But nice snag and glad to hear you won the lottery on this one. I think I did too, which I am happy about. good luck and GG's.
@@BainCustom In the end I still swapped the Samsung monitor for Gigabyte M28U. My keyboard is exactly for the monitor, so I needed to replace the keyboard every time to reach the OSD button wich was after a few days doing that very annoying. And the image quality I still was not quite satisfied about. The M28U has the OSD button in the back, it's much easier. And... The M28U really blew me away. Updated firmware and can handle One X as well Series X. Also replaced all cat 6 ethernet cables in the house for cat 8 ethernet cables. This monitor really is amazing, so so sharp!! And very smooth! Still want to thank you for the review between Samsung and Gigabyte, they are both amazing, so you just take what suits you the best.
How about that update nr7 for m28/32u which makes the screen run almost at 500 nits. What you say to that? Does that makes the gigabyte a better option?
which one is better for ps5 4k/1440 @ 120hz?
Good videos and content. By the way, good haircut.
amazing video , you helped me alot, i bought 32 neo g7 and i thought its not worth 1200$ and 32 felt too big and make me feel dizzy while playing so i'm returning it and getting one of these for 600$
but i'm afraid ppl are saying 4K is not working in 28 inch
I get the argument for 4K not being worth it at 28 in. But, I do see the difference personally. The Pixel per inch density is nice and you can always downscale for extra frames if you want.
@@BainCustom yeah but if you downscale lets say to 1440p it will look worst than native 1440p right?
Have you tried the samsung G70B and the LG ultragear 27GP950?
Not hands on but here is a short that shows the differences from G70B to G70A - ua-cam.com/users/shortsPlitFW-hCTA?feature=share
I also did a top 3 4K monitors mentioning the GP950 - ua-cam.com/video/NlKJ8aLm7YA/v-deo.html
I just bought and returned 3 G70A screens (intended for a triple monitor sim racing rig). The reason being that only 2 monitors work but a 3rd one cannot work for some ID issue that has yet to be sorted out via firmware. Too bad as they were nice screens but the M28U doesn't have that problem so any sim racers might want to steer clear of the Samsung.
I 100% appreciate you saying that. That was a question I had based on some of the issues surrounding their input issues. I also wanted to know if the updated firmware on new units fixed that problem. Now we have our answer.
@@BainCustom I even did the 1008.1 firmware update (from Korean site) and no change. Mine came pre-loaded with 1007.1, yet the US site still lists 1004 as the latest! lol
Which monitor to choose samsung odyssey g7 28 ls28 or hp omen 27u 4k? the price is quite close. I'm looking for a universal monitor for my pc and ps5.
Samsung all the way. that is my two cents anyways.
in germany only the „Samsung Odyssey Gaming Monitor G7A LS28AG702NU“ is available. Is there any differences to the monitor version you presented?
It should be mostly the same with a different country model number. It should be the same panel and full array lighting.
How is the f07 firmware update for m28u..does the brightness go above 500+ nits with the update..
Great job thank you
Did you test the Omen 27U 4K already yet? I own the Omen X 27, and bought the Omen 27U 4K, but there are almost no reviews on it due to input lag or respons times. I can't really choose between Omen 27U, Gigabyte M28U, or Samsung Odyssey G7 AG70
Samsung was my personal favorite all around. But the Gigabyte really did not let me down ever. IDK about the HP.
@@BainCustom thanks. I heared from a lot of people to stay away from Gigabyte so I choose for Samsung. I tryed the Omen 27U 4K but sending it back, mouse keyboard as well controller are extremely heavy so lots of input lag, even when I cranked the sensitivity up. Ordered now the Samsung g70. But I don't think there is a monitor in this price range who can beat my Omen X 27 (1440p) except for 4k resolution, but input lag, response lag etc Omen X 27 is a beast. Despite it's a TN panel it sometimes looks like ips. Watching angles I don't care about, usually I sit in front of the monitor, not at the sides. I game and watch movies often in a dark room I really hope Samsung has no glow or backlight bleed, wich seems to be "normal" these days for ips... Well, I can't accept that I really hate it. We'll see, if Samsung is not a improvement compared to Omen X 27 it's going straight back.
@@BainCustom oh and I wanted to say I really enjoy your video's, you seem like a very chill person I love your nonchalant relaxed attitude and you speak in a way that's really a joy to listen to.
More monitors with full array local dimming are coming out soon. I'll wait for that.
Thanks for ur Video👍 ordert the g7 today and i'll hope my 6900xt will get enough smooth Frames in warzone 🙈
O yeah the 6900xt will run that monitor well. Thanks for the input!
Have you compared both with PS5? im looking forward to buy the G70, i also watched your other review from this monitor but i want to see if without G-Sync its still winning to the M28U.
Maybe with de VRR on...
Thanks!
I have used both monitors with the ps5. They both score extremely well, if it is specifically just for console then buying the one that is a lower cost is a better value in my opinion. I will say I haven't tested out the vrr on console yet. Although I'm sure it would help, I'm not sure how much.
@@BainCustom Thanks man! i finally bought it ans just installed it.
Do you have any tutorial for firmware update?
Im a bit confused with the setup of de G7, its already in my hands
@@pabloconchaspoerer6432 any update about that firmware installation plz ?
great vid
Thanks a lot!
Setting to play 4k games on MU28 please! Been looking for the right setting and haven’t got my answer
The settings are there.
Do you mean HDR? You said 4k (which is SDR settings)
I'm from russia watching your video reviews I really like how you shoot
Welcome from Russia! Stay safe and welcome to the channel!
thanks
I was going to buy the m28u but the g70A was around 100 euro cheaper where i live
Solid choice then! Solid deal.
Which one is better for a ps5 ?
Thanks for this review ^^ funny enough I was actually looking at the G70A since it was discounted at $580, but now the M28U is gonna sell for $450 during Black Friday...I'm probably gonna pull the trigger on the M28U 👀
I got the gigabyte m28u got $365 total on Amazon
@@hammond5315 when? It's not on sale for that price rn is it👀
Yea I just got one on Thursday for 387 before tax
I’m buying the Samsung one today 😎
@@pastoryoda2789 Nice, I'm getting the Gigabyte on Friday when goes on sale ✨
Deciding between hp x27q, Omen 27i, and the m28u for my Xbox series x. Any suggestion? Money isn’t a huge decision maker. Just want to know if the m28u is worth it over a standard 1440p monitor.
I Mostly play fps and sports games like cod and fifa
I do like a solid 1440p monitor with great black level performance and high color accuracy. Of course the basics for gaming as well. But 4K is setting new standards of gaming and will be the go-to upgrade in the coming years. I think 4K outperforms 1440p on console, because you can still do 1440p and 1080p if you want and 4K has more support than 1440p currently.
@@BainCustom I’m only using the Xbox series x. Always played console but been using the same 1080 Vizio tv for the last 10 years. Since my comment I’ve pushed it down and am looking for a budget 1440p gaming monitor for console. Any recommendations would be appreciated for the u.s.a. Mostly play fps games and fifa if that helps thanks for the reply!
How much could it possibly cost on Black Friday 2023?
just got the g7 for 400 on amazon deal , what would you recommend for the series x
Solid choice. Not sure what you mean for a recommendation, but you can find all of my settings on the main playlist page of the channel.
Hej did you have any problems with it or is it stil a good buy for ps5 ? (The G7)
Still great and still using it for PS5 regularly. Still holding strong!
@@BainCustom thx for the answer 🙂
Why are you showing like an ultra wide video that looks almost like a fisheye lens as the video for the M28U and then a normal video for the G7? I don’t get it. Why wouldn’t it be an apple to apples comparison?
You just came on to troll today? I appreciate the input, they were recorded at 2 different times during an upgrade of camera gear. Gotta use what I have, everybody starts somewhere.
@@BainCustom I wasn’t trolling.. I genuinely wanted to know why they looked so different. It’s not that crazy of an observation, one looked like a fisheye lens and one looked normal, the lines of the test were bulged out and super distorted looking and the other looked normal. Which is why I asked. Maybe I missed you explaining it during the video, and if so my bad. I wasn’t criticizing your equipment or what you have to work with, I genuinely wanted to know why they looked so different.
Would you say the g70B ( the 28 inch one ) is as Good as the G70A? Or What should i buy for the ps5
G70B is an updated version of the G70A
Agreed ! Delighted with my G70A 🤗
I'm happy with both for sure. Samsung nudges it out with the Gsync for sure.
GG's
You played with keyboard and mouse. I want to see how they hold up playing with counsel with remote.
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G70A is hard to get nowadays. Is the G70B as good?
What headphones do you use ?
Which one is better for ps5? And is the brightness from the Samsung monitor really that bad in dark video games scenes? greetings from germany!!
Greetings! Yeah that is a tough call for the PS5. Generally speaking I would use the gigabyte for console more often, but they both do well. The G70A will have backlight bleed, whereas I never really saw that on the M28U.
What i don t understand is how is the samsung not a smooth as the gigabyte in Warzone =??? both run at 144 + FPS 4 K .... its the same speed =??? HOW explain.
Hi sir
Is there a difference B/w Gsync compitable and Gsync certified Monitor
Whit a 3080 10gb the G7 4k is realible? I got the G7 2k and its runs nice over 120fps i everything
I am working on a video breaking down the cards to use for each resolution/performance of monitor. A 3080 is about the minimum requirement for 4k, it will work. But you will probably see a good dip in fps.
@@BainCustom thx for taking the time to respond. I will keep the G7 1440p and play on more fps until i upgrade maby next year the GPU to the 5k series
Nice video!
What do you think, can my Nvidia RTX 3070 easy run this G70A monitor?
Probably. Depends on the game and quality settings. You might still want something that is 1440p, but technically it could.
Yeah 3070 can run 4k. 3070 is basically a 2080 ti.
Hi i just buy the G70A, the options for low imput lag / Black equaliser / Black level are greyed out. Is it because i'm using a diplay port cable ? Is Hdmi is better than DP in this case ?
Hey krol. Thanks for the question. The reason they are greyed out is because your Freesync/Variable Sync is on. Turn it off and you can change the settings. Then turn it back on.
@@BainCustom Ho ! indeed thanks ;)
M28u latest firmware is F10 now.
Dang! They are moving quickly with those updates!
@@BainCustom they have it at $500 now
What settings do you recommend for the lowest input lag and smoothest experience for ps5 on the G70A
What system are you using, what game are you playing and what do you use k&M or Controller?
How to toggle adaptive sync? It's gray out I'm on ps5. Have any settings advice for ps5 users? I mainly play vanguard multiplayer.
On the M28U? Currently the PS5 does not support VRR, unless they rolled out the update sooner than expected. Could be due to HDR being on too. But it wouldn't change the console to allow it.
@@BainCustom sorry I should've mentioned it's for the g70a.
gotcha, Samsung is a bit more unique and locked down with the PS5. I am not even sure you can get it to be turned on, unless you remove all HDR features on the PS5.
G7 has 40gbps and M28U has 24 gbps hdmi(2.1)
Which one should i buy for PS5 as it has 32gbps hdmi 2.1
Please help! Any help would be appreciated!
Which one would you recommend to pair with the PS5? Also would you recommend a 32 or 28 inch for gaming in a smaller room? I play RPGs and FPSs too.
32 is a bit much to get used to. But if you can get used to it, it will be nice for RPG's. Which would mean that the Gigabyte would be the recommendation.
Which one is better for Series X, LG 27GP950 or Samsung G70A?
Did a great video on this. But it is whatever is priced lower imo, they both will kill on the series x.
Hi, are they both compatible with VESA mount?
They are indeed!
After watching some recommendations I bought the M28U, in terms of specs and the generic tests it beat out the G70A. Unfortunately, I returned it due to dead pixels and news of QC issues. After replacing it with the G70A I'm not going back...the specs on paper might sound better for Gigabyte but after trying both, G70A delivers a superior experience.
How many dead pixel?
Dead pixel shown how many days later?
@@imamhassan007 it was only 2 but they were right in the middle. It was likely there out of the box, but didn't notice until gameplay.
That was kind of my conclusion. The experience was just better. No that depends on the game, but overall I have no issues with the G70A. Hopefully I can test out that Neo G7 soon, that looks like a great monitor.
How is ips glow with those innolux panels?
It can be a bit rough. I have noticed it is a bit of a lottery. Some are worse than others.
Can I play games with 1080p on 144hz and then watch movies at 4k?
....This is what I am wanting a new monitor to do. Thanks.
Absolutely you can. You just have to adjust your in game settings to 1080p. That way you don't have to change the display resolution back and forth every time you switch.
@@BainCustom Thanks for the reply. Will 1080p on 4k look worse or better than 1080p on a 1080p monitor?
@@jacobfield4848SOMEBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION
Wait..you didn't set up gsync on the gigabyte one?
I used Gsync. It is just not Gsync certified/paid for licensing for Gsync. Meaning it only uses Vsync.
I have a evga3080ti paired with a i7 12700k. Looking for a flat panel display and I'm liking what I see here between the 2 monitors. I'm just stuck on which one lol.
Get the gigabyte. Preferably the 32 inch option because to me 4k looks better on 32 inches than 28 inches
did you update the gigabyte before testing? it received an update and now has great response time
I have the gigabyte how you update it?
It was update for the vs video. My original non vs video was before the update.
On console, low input lag mode is blacked out when I have the freesync on. Can you not have both playing Xbox?
You have to set the low input mode while FreeSync is off and then set FreeSync, the setting will lock in place once you do that.
Quick question, do both monitors have built in speakers/microphones? or do you need to attach headphones/external speakers? Also if they do, how is the sound quality?
I believe both do have speakers, but they for sure have a 3.5mm headphone jack. I honestly never use the monitor speaker and always hookup a small powered speaker to the monitor.
I have the dell Alienware 25 Gaming Monitor - AW2518H NVIDIA G-Sync 240Hz right now and i’m thinking about upgrading it to Samsung G70A Definitely let me know if I should upgrade to the Samsung please thanks
Well that Alienware is great in its own right. So it's an upgrade in some areas (resolution), where your motion may be better with Alienware. But the G70A still has good motion and is worth the buy. I would say test it for 2 weeks and see how you feel about it.
@@BainCustom yes I love my dell Alienware 25 Gaming Monitor - AW2518Hf and I appreciate you getting back to me bro and I love your videos bro! And The G70A is Probably what I’m getting because I want to 4K! I am going to upgrade the graphics card in my computer to a 3070 bro!
hi is there yellowish white in this monitor? on factory setting. I bought one and the white are on the yellowish side
That's not normal, but typical if the contrast is low and your tint/gamma is incorrectly set. A good calibration should fix that.
@@BainCustom i increased my blue color level and is now ok tq
I just got the G7.. what are the best or recommended settings to pair with the ps5? 🙏
I have my settings pinned and posted in most of the G70 video descriptions. Feel free to check out the full length review and it should be on there.
Worth pointing out that the M28U is now G-Sync Compatible, if not officially. I also strongly recommend avoiding curved screens if you need a monitor for productivity or play scrolling 2D games, which are nauseating compared to a flat panel.
What do you mean by "not officially"? Is G-Sync now working on it?
@@niklas46810 Yes, just not as a listed "G-Sync Compatible" monitor. RTings updated their review to reflect this change.
@@siphillis Thank you for the response!
It did work in my testing as well.