Fine, I'll Say It: Mighty No. 9 Deserved Better
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Wade takes a look back at Mighty No. 9, the spiritual successor to Mega Man that set the internet ablaze with fury when it turned out to be, *GASP*, a decent Mega Man game.
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Music in this video:
Mighty No. 9 - Sneak Into The Prison
Mega Man 8 - Base Stage (Grenade Man)
Mega Man 7 - Forgotten Factory (Junk Man)
Mighty No. 9 - Challenge Mode
Mega Man X4 - Opening Stage (X)
Mega Man 2 - Bubble Man
Mighty Gunvolt Burst - Water Works Bureau
Mighty Gunvolt Burst - Credits (Beck)
Ribbit King - Menus
![Inafune Explained: How The Mighty Have Fallen | Past Mortem [SSFF]](/img/n.gif)
Wrote this as a reply to someone, but I’ll leave a variation of it here for future viewers: It’s become clear over time that I needed to be more direct about what this video was meant to convey. I say at the start that it’s perfectly reasonable to dislike or be disappointed by the game, and that it *should* have been more, but that the sheer vitriol it’s regarded with is largely overblown, because the game is still pretty fun. The entire idea was essentially born out of the concept of making a video on the game that takes the opposite perspective of most of the others on this site, because I genuinely do enjoy playing it. The pushback was directed at the “Inafune is a villain that soiled my crops and burned my village” types, not the “game kinda sucks” types. The man has done plenty to warrant question and negativity, but I think delivering an underwhelming game is far from the top. Anyway, I’m sorry if you were annoyed by how aggressively I defended the game, but I’m not going to filter my thoughts on a game for the sake of other people not liking to hear it, and I really do think the extreme vitriol unnecessarily killed a pretty fun game’s potentially really fun series. You have full rights to hate the game like a normal person or make fun of me for liking it, but I think the reaction to this video is a pretty good example of how serious people take this game lol
Truthfully, it was purposely sabotaged by very rotten people and shills.
Honestly, their unforgiveness of Ifanume completely burned down the spiritual success franchise they wanted.
Now, no one can give them what they want.
Sometimes the first game is the best one. Sometimes it isn't. A lot of that time when it isn't, It SHOULD be a lesson learn and feedback of what the next best game should be. Sadly Those that liked Mighty No. 9 will never get to experience that.
Imagine someone buys the rights to the IP and drops a sequel that actually looks really good and plays even better.
I did hatch an idea up of a sequel/spin-off that was actually going to have us playing as Ray. The plot starts with her found deactivated, and then repaired, by someone named Mr. Gray (No not doctor, Mister). Mr Gray decides to send her hunt down Dr. White (Telling her he is a known terrorist in hiding, Blackwell) in the midst of what seems to be a robot uprising (Beck is notably absent during this). Ray, who has next to no memory thanks to what happened to her and the manner in which she was repaired, agrees to help Mr Gray as well as look into the current uprising. There's obviously more going on then what it seems at first glance, but it is definitely going to be taking a look at Dr. White's flaws along with Ray's past.
Gameplay wise, the idea was playing into Ray being more melee focused, but the big thing about her is she no longer suffers health drain (Thanks to said repairs). However, she's only able to heal up from killing enemies (Think like Raiden from Metal Gear: Rising). Also does have a "Berserker mode" that can be used to deal more damage and increase speed. Naturally, she gets more abilities from taking out bosses.
As I have no coding knowledge or artistic ability though (Plus, the nature of copyright) this concept remains just that though; a concept.
@@headphonesaxolotl No one will and the best ideas people already own it and have a vision that is unlike the competition.
Play Mighty Gunvolt Burst. It's literally exactly that, by a lot of the same devs over at Inti Creates, but also as a crossover with the Gunvolt series.
rememeber bubsy?
I think one of the biggest detractors was that the game was crowdfunded, which comes with a certain level of trust. If this had dropped from a random indie studio, it might have gained a cult following, but because it was from Keiji Inafune and was insanely overfunded, years in advance, it kind of needed to be perfect. Honestly, the stretch goals probably really dragged it down in the long run, especially the online functions that nobody used. While I personally enjoy the game and would like to see a sequel, I have to admit that it should have been better.
My biggest criticism is the assimilate mechanic because enemies STILL have touch damage.
Had they did away with touch damage like Freedom Planet, it would work a LOT better.
I’ve had this game on the PS3 & played through it many times. It could use more polish, but I’ve always enjoyed it. Really wish it would’ve gotten a sequel.
Despite a ton of the issues this game has, i can't fully hate it as much as other people have. Especially with my enjoyment of Ray. Thanks for making this man.
While the game itself might be ok, I think what handicapped the game is the marketing, the kickstarter being so botched, and a collection of nitpicks. Mega Man fans hadn’t had a game in a bit, so some of them were hoping for a true predecessor with absolutely no issues. A lot of the fans, at least from what I remember, felt cheated. And I think that’s something to keep in mind. The game wasn’t JUST the game for a lot of people. The game was the multiple ports that never got off the ground, the anime that never got off the ground, the unskipable credit sequence(I might be incorrect on that one). I think it could have grown into something great someday, but do to issue after issue after issue it just left such a bad taste in people’s mouths that they cast it aside completely.
I do want to play it someday, partially out of morbid curiosity and partially to see if I would have enjoyed it. I wasn’t ever a part of the hate train, and when the game came out a few years back, it was on my Christmas list(I was like 10 or 11 when it came out).
It sucks that the factors around the game led to the game being looked down on so much, because a lot of games are like this: made with passion and love for a specific audience. The only difference is that the situation around the game slighted the audience so badly they killed it immediately.
like an anime fan on prom night
@@frog4307 You clearly identify as one if you're obsessed with repeating this shit.
The credits are skipable, you're not forced to watch all 4 hours of it (the first 10 minutes are the game credits).
The first thing I thought when I saw that awful trailer was "god dammit I can see why people are mad but I really like the look of that dash move tho."
this argument is litterally just "its not that bad if you ignore the bad parts"
Or “a game having some bad aspects doesn’t make the game as a whole bad”
@@WadeSilver or "maybe megaman having to many instant death traps is not a valid exuse for mighty number 9 to have to many death traps bad level design is bad level design
@@metromania6794 Well, yeah, that's the point I was making. There are tons of Mega Man games that overdo it on that stuff and I still like them. I excuse the bad moments because the rest of the game rules, and I see Mighty No. 9 the same way. I wish they didn't do it, but it's not like this isn't something I've excused before.
Hey look, a furry!
Honestly, you’re right Mighty No. 9 does need a sequel because the game is so fun and I enjoyed it so much, I got the game on the PS4 and it wasn’t bad I would want a sequel so bad something heavily similar to Mega Man 2 or something like that
Mighty No.9 actually does look really fun to play.
I agree it deserved better.
This game is my favourite, I grew up with it when I was 6 and I still like it, Bc the concept is beatiful, character design perfect, voice acting,(Okay) And it's just perfect its fine, call it a megaman clone if you will but still, 8/10
Oh you're definitely young 😭 and the director of mn9 was the director of most of the old MegaMan games that's why so many people overhyped the release of this game
When I was a kid, the games I was given, i learned to love no matter what. It's nice when you don't really have a hatewave giving you the notion that a game is bad, so you can't enjoy it.
While I do think a lot of the hate for the game is overblown, since I truly believe the game is at worst mediocre, it feels kinda silly to blame players for the game not getting a sequel. The IP was tarnished by all the issues during the campaign and a just ok game was never going to be able to salvage that.
Inticreates is doing just fine working with Bloodstained and their own IPs.
i remember i bought this game without having known anything about the kickstarter and i never really understood why people hated it so much to begin with, it was never that bad imo 😭
I liked the game too. I bought the deluxe box for it. I remember when it first came out, everyone was bashing on it. I kept my mouth shut until I bought my copy and tried to spread the word. It's a good Megaman game.
8:56 they made the mighty no 9 tv show trailer and that is unforgivable 😔
I had no idea about the drama/controversy this game has... anyways
3:21 I would never :c
6:47 is that a genji katana? 0:
I think the main issue was the whole Kickstarter campaign thing. People were expecting way better with the money and people behind it. If this was an indie project with way less budget and without Keiji Inafune's name slapped on it, perhaps it would have been massively better received.
I do believe MN9 had some potential, but they chewed way more than they could swallow. If they had focused on doing the game aesthetically better, with nicely planned level design and gave it a solid identity (something that made it look like a Megaman competitor rather than a revival) it would have been a massive hit; but they didn't.
There was another poorly released game from 2016 called No Man's Sky. It was very ambitious and had a disastrous release. But then, after a couple of years and effort, it finally turned into a quite good game for a lot of people. I think MN9 could have had a similar fate, but we'll never know now. At least it brought Megaman back on t he map... I guess.
Finally, Mignty Number 9 is a bad game, but at least it had some nice things and tried to have some personality. I don't think it's the worst thing ever happened to the industry and compared to some recent things like Skull Island Rise of Kong, TLotR: Gollum, Concord, or The Day Before, it surely wasn't as bad as we remember.
Honestly i really enjoyed it when it dropped, still do.
I hadnt had a megaman game in years so us getting a spiritual successor besides gunvolt made me happy.
The theme was amazing
I enjoy the message behind the game. Faith in yourself and others allows u to make the impossible, possible.
The game was made for speed running and makes it clear. U can pull off some dope shit when u utilize the powers and movement well. Its also not too hard to just pick up and play. With little to no backtracking as u get no powerups that carry over besides lives. Even then u can start with no 9.
I disliked how u get "e tanks", but hey, without them it makes u focus on enemy attacks all the more.
I loved the fact u could save ur siblings instead of destroying them. And some stages were really fun. Like aviatior, Brandish, pyro, cryo, and bat.
I also enjoyed the sibling dynamic between them. U could really feel the care they had for each other in the nicknames and way they look out for beck and their corrupted siblings.
I wish we got more info on what Xel is, why beck can do what he does, the Colosseum, and Ray.
Ray herself was dope. I could tell Inafune mixed a bit of bass.exe and Zero in her. Her "actions" seem like an alt timeline, which I feel messes up possible lore, and the ending seemed like there needed more to it. Both ray and becks ending.
I could forsee White turning evil and being the villain of a sequel. With ray being needed to help beck stop him.
Call i felt was interesting, but needed a lil more story to her. Especially with something they were hinting at.
I liked the extra modes that gave u sumn more to do as u played through the game.
All in all, i enjoyed it for what it was. But i feel it couldve been more if it had a sequel or just more story to it.
Also, brandish is a cheap bitch😂
His weapon goes hard tho. Got me feeling like Zero a bit.
They were definitely dangling some plot threads to pick up in a sequel.
Maybe one day it’ll happen, if they ever decide to dust off MN9.
Ray is inspired by Suna Light. The biological daughter of Dr. Light.
Meaning… she is the biological daughter of Dr. White. A human he desperately kept alive in stasis.
It’s safe to say that the sequel of the game would’ve been extremely sad and memorable. But beauty cannot last in this world of exploitation and wicked liars that destroy everything.
@@makocrab2223
Yeah, I think it wouldve been interesting what they could do with it if they continued. Maybe fans could pick it up?
@chriss.249 No 9 can only be continued if the audience themselves repent and admit their faults on targeting and villainizing the team and the game. A destructive audience cannot provide a constructive environment.
I loved Mighty no. 9.
Everyone hates it for its flaws, however, every game people seem to love has equal or even worse flaws, and people love those games like that anyway. Yes, even I wish the game was more polished, but the hate is unsubstantiated. I think it was the whole "anime fan on prom night". After that line, it didn't matter how good the game was gonna be, people just never got past that.
This game is better than the worst of the Megaman games.
I feel like it does a better job getting me to care about its characters than most Megaman games. I bought White as a caring father figure more than Light, except maybe in 8, and once you defeat the other Mighty No.s and they help you in other stages, they really like a family unit.
Agree with you 100%. I know Keiji messed up when he said: “Better than nothing” and they over promised a lot of stuff but it is a good game. Plus is very challenging and has cool character designs. Like you said Megaman flourished because it was given a second chance. I hope Keiji Inafune doesn’t get discouraged and give the ip another try. As for the voice acting, that’s why I don’t like dubbing so I play it in Japanese which is way better.
I already knew about people disliking this game a while ago when I was younger, but last week when I heard the main menu song for the fist time, I knew I needed to buy this game for the music, and I like it, its a good game with fun gameplay and the dash reminds me about X series dash but combined with classic megaman. This game is awesome, if you read this, listen to the main menu theme, and please give it a try, is cheap on steam.
Gotta agree. It’s a great tune.
Just picked this game up in the bargain bin of DG on a lark, and I have to agree with all you've said. Disappointment I understand, but this game still deserved a better reception from the fans. It was actually a fun time, once you got over some of the smaller issues. It's a shame those promised ports never released.
A positive review for a cool game that people just shit on. FINALLY
I never played Mighty No. 9 not because I bought into the hate, but because it was never ported to the 3DS.
Time and time again it was PROMOTED to have a 3DS port, but that port never came, until today. Some guy on UA-cam created a port for the game for both the 3DS and the PS Vita and I'm going to download it tomorrow to play on the 3DS after all these years.
The gameplay in Gunvolt and related games play similar. Shoot enemy until it's pink and use special attack . I just bought mighty number 9 for my series X and enjoy playing along with my Gunvolt games.
I'm still hoping it gets a port, or a remaster to the Switch. I was holding off on playing it back on release because I thought a 3DS version was around the corner, and liked the idea of playing it on a portable console. I enjoyed listening to all of your points. I wish Inafune-san would at least show face...
At best you may see a Switch/Switch II or PC version via a handheld PC. Sad as that is.
@@savagemaelstrom9645 I nabbed it on sale on steam a few weeks back. It's been surprisingly fun!
I'm not a Mega Man fan despite knowing a good enough summary of the lore for both classic and X series but I can say I like elements here and there from this game, though I think they kinda left Call as roughly a not good example of a Spock like character because I like stoic/logical characters but there's considerable effort into making sure they don't sound too bored sounding, but I can say they generally did good on the characters. I like that you don't kill the other Mighty numbers. I really like Ray and could tell what they wanted out of her from the start of her dialogue and I do like that Dr White tries to help Trinity with her issues and make it seem like she's having a mental breakdown while not being punished for it. I'm not exactly a hater but not a lover. I just thought it was fine. Wish we got more but I get both sides.
While I'll be the first to praise and defend Mighty No. 9, I wouldn't say the people are only angry because the game wasn't what they wanted: people donated upwards of $1000 to see the game be made, and the people behind it were more than qualified (the argument that the first Mega Man game wasn't great until the sequel is kinda moot when you remember that the team had about +15 years of experience making those very same games, you would think they could get right on their first attempt), even if you are to accept that the real budget was less than $4 million dollars, the final product still reflects quite poorly on both Inafune and Inti Creates (who surprisingly are excempt from most blame even though they were the ones who actually put the game together)
That being said, it has been almost 10 years already since the Kickstarter, the people who insist in being butthurt after so many years are beyond petulant totally lapping up to Capcom thinking Mega Man 11 means there's no room for Mighty anymore. Yes, it is the better game but guess what? *It's been almost 5 years already since that one came out* and there's no hint of what's the plan for the series moving forward beyond more collections.
If people were tolerant to the idea of Mighty No. 9 just being a thing, we could have twice as many non-linear run-n-shoot platformers in a decade, both filling each other's gaps without running either franchise into the ground
But sadly, even if Mighty No. 9 2 was to be announced tomorrow and be everything it needed to be, most people would still shit on it...
I have checked everything, and despite Mighty no 9 being called a failure, it’s the only one that could be a true successor to Megaman that is truly unique.
You know what? you make very good points here, but I do think the issue most people took with the game has nothing to do with gameplay, level design, art direction, or anything else intrinsic to the game - it is primarily due to the gross mismanagement of the whole kickstarter campaign: overpromising and undedelivering.
I do agree that with iteration it could become better, too. Maybe Inti should buy the IP outright and drive it forward.
I was burnt on the crowdfunding aspect, becoming a Backer / Becker on the promise that a 3ds port was underway. The goal was reached, deadline pushed back indefinitely (even to this day when the 3ds shop has closed)...meanwhile it seemed like the company was already biting off more than it can chew with a tv show and Red Ash being announced before no 9 even released
Settled for 360 version. Had a good enough time with the game, but I could have just waited for the retail version without all the drama. For higher tier backers though I heard things were even worse (physical copies arriving piece-meal where the box version was literally just the cardboard unassembled, steam codes being broken).
I will never forget this game being my first rage quit, I could never get past the final boss
I got tricked into hating this shit too...played that mf yesterday after buying it on day one..n I'm having fun..I got caught up in the hype.
I kept waiting for the big reveal that Trinity was the missing part of Call that is alluded to during the prison break mission.
Seems like a missed opportunity. I wonder if they’ll ever reveal what they had in mind for her.
Fun fact: trinity's design was part of a contest for the design for call
That’s true! And not my favorite one. Wish they had gone with something else. The one they used for Trinity was probably my least fav of the designs.
Oh well. They could always change it for a sequel. Say she got an upgrade or changed her look.
Never really hated the game. It ran pretty well.
I even liked the cheesy voice acting. The cheesiness works for a game like this.
But i really can't go without condemning the development handling, marketing, and onward.
It's hard to separate the game from the campaign. I am STILL mad at the campaign. But the game is decently fun.
Then forgive him.
There are other reasons people were unhappy with the situation other than the gameplay being bad. There were several broken promises in the kickstarter (which is probably to be expected due to unexpected budget costs) but I remember people being angry when the creator started pushing an animated series and other MN9 projects before this game was even released. If I remember correctly, they started asking for funding for other projects while this game was incomplete and lacking features.
Telling ppl who spent money on this game that their view are wrong and relax is some audacity...whew
I think the freakout over this game is extremely overblown and a bit embarrassing, but I have never once said that anyone disliking the game or being frustrated with Inafune/the Kickstarter was wrong. In fact I say the exact opposite at 1:32
thanks for talking about the game itself. looking at steam reviews, most of the negative ones talk about hot they got scammed, which sucks, but is not relevant to how it plays. At this point, I think I will be able to give it a shot as well, so i put it on my wish list for when it goes on sale :)
you can get it for $3 on cd keys
I think the botched campaign, delays, broken promises and red ash campaign just made people frustrated and part of me cannot fault them for feeling angry as they felt lied to imo
@@silverhairedwanderer9806 I agree, the campaign was a moderate disaster, I just don’t think the game deserves to be treated as bad as it. If I made this video today I definitely would have just made it “why I like Mighty No. 9” instead of trying to do the whole Devil’s Advocate thing I did here 😅
Now i wonder, which one if these games have a better level design:
Megaman & Bass
Megaman X6
Megaman X7
Mighty No. 9
Megaman and Bass is actually meant to be hard, and besides some trial and error parts, most of the level design is not even bad
MegaMan and bass is actually a really great game and is way better than MegaMan 8. MegaMan and bass let's you play as two different characters with unique abilities and there are a lot of interesting collectibles. MegaMan 8 on the other hand only has animated cutscenes and voice acting soo bad it's good.
I haven't had the chance to play mighty number 9 or MegaMan 11 but from watching others play it mighty number 9 looks WAY better.
Also I question whether the people who hate mighty number 9 are even MegaMan fans because supposedly most MegaMan fans think MegaMan 2 is the best in the series and most of the complaints about mighty number 9 are things that were in MegaMan2 as well.
Personally I think MegaMan 2 is highly overrated though.
I think the best MegaMan game is MegaMan powered up.
Nah, if it were self funded by inafune entirely, then it deserves better.
im not much in for platforme game but this game looks fun and wellcome back wade.
If you love it so much then why don't you marry it?
I think people are still holding a grudge at the commercial
I really dont wanna be a dck, but with how much Comcept gain from the funraiser, dont they have more then enough to make a sequel?
Game Development is a pricey pricey business, but also one that we don't have specifics about in relation to its pricey pricey-ness. There's just a lot to consider when it comes to what goes into a game, not only for how much was spent then but also for how much would need to be spent for a sequel now. Not to mention that, honestly, after the backlash, they may just not want to associate with MN9 as a brand ever again. There's just a lot of potential risk.
Mighty no.9 development and reception made comcept lose a lot of money, to the point they were acquired by level-5(a Japanese game developing company) in 2017, after that they only release mobile games in Japan under the name level-5 comcept.
Ill say it, i didnt hate it. It just seemed like it became popular to hate
i blame the Evil Community manager that screamed her way into a job and then lied on behalf of EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE BACKERS. " Games gotta be 3d." " DIVERSITY MATTERS!" "HIRE THESES VOICE ACTORS THAT ARE MY FRIENDS AND STEVE BLUM!"
She definitely was part of the problem, they also had a lot of budget and overpromised, at the end the game is a 6/10 but with all that stuff and also the marketing, it went to a 3/10.
2:40 In fact, Mega Man has already done this, in the Battle Network series.
I dont see any wrong because there is no another clone or competing which is better. I love Mega Man Series and liked Mighty No.9 I see that Mega Man series are outdated from beginning 1985 - . Mighty No.9 is now it has nice graphic and continusly actions. Look at Street fighter competitors other side The king of Fighters and Tekken. its great to see new different concept.
Finally someone else who likes this game ❤🎉
It's not a trashfire, but it's too mediocre for even most people who have or have not played anything like it.
Additionally, while you did show that certain mechanics are good in the right contexts, they will most certainly not usually be used that way by most who try them. The dash is definitly an integral part of the game as a way to both move fast and destroy enemies, however it's just doesn't go far enough to be used for (what I consider) fast movement and some parts of the game that are broken because of it. (underwater levels just become a non-obstacle)
Most definitely not worth it to buy it at the time at full price.
Hi! So, i kinda disagree with you, i think that the dash in Mighty No.9 is arguably the best dash in any Megaman series, and it is even more fast when you play with Ray. I do understand the thought of some parts being "broken" because of it being bad (aka the only underwater level themed) But is this enough to call the game mediocre? I quite like Megaman, and i've played some games a bit too much (Megaman 1, 2, 3 and 5, also X1, X3 and a bit of X4 and X5, the other ones i haven't played as much as those) And dude, the gameplay of Mighty No.9 might as well be the best one out of them, of course the story isn't as interesting as the X, Zero and Battle Network series. But i really ain't joking here, in this game is some of the coolest stages, and bossfights that i have seen in Megaman (Yeah there is some tedious ones like Mighty No.4 stage and Mighty No.2), and yeah the graphics aren't really out there, but if the game plays as butter smooth as this one, i don't really care. People defend Megaman X8 for even minor reasons. (Also that's just my opinion, i've just typed this to offer a different point of view, and if i bothered you i'm really sorry.)
@@higinoAnimador It’s too bad the hatred of mankind consumed itself into getting nothing in the end.
The best mighty number 9 game is literally a gunvolt game lol
did this guy just forget all the lies and broken promises the developer made? it didn't matter if the game was good or not. it wasn't what they said they were delivering. even if its the best vanilla ice cream in the world, if your ordered chocolate you'd send it back. and it... wasn't the best vanilla.
I'm in the group that thought the game was perfectly serviceable and didn't get the hate. More than not seeing another Mighty No 9 being a disappointment though, we're not likely to see another Soul Sacrifice which was a pretty solid game and I think an article said they managed to plop that one out in under a year of dev time.
That said? ARGUABLY one good thing came from this. Very, very arguably, but hear me out here. Because the company hit financial trouble after the release, it merged with (Read as: Was Acquired by) Level 5. You know, the Dark Cloud, Danball, Fantasy Life, Professor Layton, Yokai Watch, Inasuma Eleven, Rogue Galaxy, Gundam Age, and Ni No Kuni developer/publisher? And while they're not known for their platformers, hopefully, they have some stake/ownership of Red Ash too. I'd pick up a Mighty No. 9 II, or a Red Ash game they put out in a heart beat. Picturing the Dark Cloud/Rogue Galaxy team, or what is left of them, making a Megaman Legends style game sounds awesome if you ask me.
Edit: Also Megaton Musashi. Thats them too.
Also for what its worth about the voice acting and 'pizza explosions' thing. I get the impression that Inafune liked Megaman Powered Up, and sampled some of the design philosophies from that game, for better or worse.
I mean I appreciate this game.
I think The Great Clement did a really good job at explaining why he dislikes the game, while not blindly hating it.
ua-cam.com/play/PL45FXiU5g2Q_sNaYOKMIAycpQAEyZ3ukK.html
I'm of the opinion that time CAN be kind to this game, provided it manages to reach out an appeal beyond just Mega Man fans - because much of its Kickstarter success rode on the entire 'ride' and not just "fund a Not-Mega Man" ("Inafune will save Japanese gaming!", etc). I was mostly detached from that, so, with no expectations whatsoever, when I did play it, I found it a solid enough play alike that was actually a better time than some stuff like the latter half of some of the X series titles.
...at the same time, though, I felt like they were deliberately shortchanging the 1st entry on purpose hoping to make a 2nd one and try it "for real" on that go around, and when you say the 2nd time could work, it seems like it's less "my gut feeling" and actually that they may not have put their best foot forward. Despite my inclination to be positive given my actual impressions playing the game, I can't work much good will on that one alone - it seems to go hand in hand with Inafune wanting to make this a low key empire without even any proper game to come out to begin with (it seemed like he counted on a sequel without even one game out, and why wouldn't he? He was counting on an animated series and a MOVIE before it all went up in smoke).
It’s not that they wanted to make cut short in quality, it’s that they didn’t know how it should be stabilized in consoles.
The entire Mega Man 1 section is the goofiest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, Mega Man 1 is pretty at some times, but its the game that defined the rest of the series made for the god damn NES. How on God's green Earth did you expect the people criticizing Mighty No.9, a game that had so many games to study during development to see how they succeeded and failed, to get the same treatment. Mega Man 1 had nothing to work off of, and while Mighty No.9 does try to be different with its game design, it has no excuse to be as unpolished and as messy as it is.
By the way, saying that the fanbase (as if they made the rushed and poorly crafted game that barely fulfilled most of its promises) paralyzed this series from the waist down is something else. The community managed to show enough support to get this game $4,000,000. Comcept kept asking for more funding and kept delaying the game, only for it to be insanely mediocre. Who's the one who fucked up here? The company that created an insanely mediocre game through being a jack of all trades while being a master of none? Or is it the fans who just wanted a well made successor to Mega Man and ended up getting a mess of a title?
@@Ismatic1906 The point of this one was to talk about the people that melted down and turned the game from “well that didn’t work out’ into shorthand for blasphemy and trash. I personally think it’s a pretty fun game, but even I acknowledge in the video that it *should* have been better. It’s far from the worst game ever made, but it sure is treated as though it is, and plenty of series (Mega Man or otherwise) have had rough starts and gone on to do great things. MN9 tried to do a lot different from Mega Man (which a lot of people disliked anyway) so I would have liked to seen where it could have gone if the IP wasn’t poisoned by outrage.
All evidence points to the Community Manager as the sourse of ALL THE PROBLEMS. SHe EFFING Frauded her way into the position Skimmed Funds for her OWN company she then made and ghosted Inafune a week before release.. SHE Lied to the devs what the community wanted. Screamed for what SHE WANTED. Got all her friends VA jobs AT Ludicrous Salaries and hired Steve BLum to Mix it in(also what he said about the project post mortem only FUrther made my HATE grow against that damen DEMON posing as a community manager.)
Even tho i do think mighty no 9 is pretty below evenn mediocre(bad level design, unavoidable death traps/spikes, bad enemy placement ,onpolished gameplay en much more loop) but i also do think you made a pretty good video even if a disagree well done
I haven't had the chance to play mighty number 9 or MegaMan 11. But from watching others play it mighty number 9 looks WAY better.
Also I question whether the people who hate mighty number 9 are even MegaMan fans at all because supposedly most MegaMan fans think MegaMan 2 is the best in the series and most of the complaints about mighty number 9 are things that were in MegaMan2 as well almost EVERY MegaMan game.
Personally I think MegaMan 2 is highly overrated though.
I think the best MegaMan game is MegaMan powered up. The reason is because you call play as the bosses, Protoman and even Roll. Also the damage chart for the bosses makes more sense then other games. Like for example in most MegaMan games if the special weapon isn't the bosses weakness then it will do less damage than the megabuster and often even zero damage. However in MegaMan powered up the special weapons are better than the megabuster even if it isn't the weakness which makes a lot more sense. Why do the other games punish you for using a weapon that requires ammo?
I played this game for free through ps plus, and wow am I glad I didn't pay twenty bucks. It's like classic mega man but with all of the soul sucked out, and all of the characters are rehashed legally distinct mega man characters, and the actual game plays like dogshit. Not to mention the god awful marketing. Literally, my best advice, is just play megaman. If you somehow like this, just play megaman, it's like mighty no.9 but not a cheap cash in of a developers legacy.
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Loved the video. I didn't think much about MN9 myself (despite backing it), but I agree the game itself was mostly just mediocre, not awful, and I definitely loved Ray both as a character and a gameplay element.
Also really loved that jab at the end. Agreed, nothing could make THAT better.
As someone who has put in over 24 hours of this game on steam, I completely agree with you here.
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I agree and disagree with some of your complaints about other people’s complaints. The reason this game has annoying spikes is because their placed cheaply and unfairly. There is literally a section where you have to drop into a pit where you can’t see the bottom and there are instant death spikes at the bottom. It’s not even like they was any set up for them so you just die for no good reason. That’s the reason why people are complaining. They took traditional Mega Man level design and twisted it until it was unfair and unfulfilling.
video was too much about criticizing the criticisms and not enough talking about the good aspects of the game. still kind of a hate video just in the other direction
@flamango4660 It was a silly angle to approach an entire video from, if I made it today it would be different, but I certainly don’t think it’s reasonable to call it a “hate video.” Never have or would I say that I hate someone for what they say about a video game, no matter how much what they say annoys me.
This dude is spitting facts rn
Im genuinely hoping the guy who made the game decides to gives it a second chance.... cus the internet fucking sucks. Would've loved to see might no 9. 2 as well... but no twitter, and adult manchildren exist
Really refreshing to see someone with a similar, rational stance on this game, you’d be surprised how vigorously people still hate it even now.
One point I feel is very critical to understanding what makes MN9 great is that it isn’t Mega Man just because you jump and shoot, regardless of what the marketing wants you to believe.
Hell, even comparing it to Mighty Gunvolt Burst feels a bit wrong, the two are built around completely different scoring systems, one that’s also different to the Gunvolt series that’s also part of the crossover.
I’d seriously recommend checking out Gunvolt 1 and 2, regardless of your thoughts on Burst, because they’re in a whole different league. But you definitely seem to understand that Inti Creates has a phenomenal track record, so I’m sure I didn’t need to type this many paragraphs to convince you.
sorry couldnt give them my money. im an anime fan🤣
Mega Man came out when I was a kid. I found it in a friend's yard, with no label and buried in dirt. Cleaned it and played it. It fucking sucked unless you were into retarded difficulty spikes, a no-where score counter, and a video game art style rip-off of AstroBoy. Yay. Part 2 was better and 3 peaked it, and then it dragged on. I love and hate Mega Man. All Mighty Bro. 9 is probably the same thing. Came from the same guy after-all. I'll get around to it.
Mighty No. 9 is oddly one of the most distinctive iterations of the Megaman premise in that it’s more centered on family.
No.
I really liked it when on the Xbox One it was great
I agree 100% i don't why the people shot themselves in the foot by criticising it that hard.... If the game wasn't one that was funded by people... Many more would have hailed it as the saviour to the stagnant megaman series.. But sadly people behaved poorly and here we are waiting for x9 with no hope in sight...
This was...kind of an annoying video. Where you're giving your own thoughts on the game is nice enough, but the constant "oh, maybe we were too harsh, durhur." garbage gets real old real quick. It sounds more like you're trying to get people to stop saying stuff that you simply don't like to hear about the game.
It’s become clear over time that I needed to be more direct about what this video was meant to convey. I say at the start that it’s perfectly reasonable to dislike or be disappointed by the game, and that it *should* have been more, but that the sheer vitriol it’s regarded with is largely overblown, because the game is still pretty fun. The entire idea was essentially born out of the concept of making a video on the game that takes the opposite perspective of most of the others on this site, because I genuinely do enjoy it. The pushback was directed at the “Inafune is a villain that soiled my crops and burned my village” types, not the “game kinda sucks” types. If I was worried about people saying what I don’t like to hear about a game I wouldn’t have touched MN9 with a 50-ft pole lol. Anyway, sorry to hear it annoyed you, my other content tends not to be as much of a “hear me out.”
I think Hype killed it, history was good(there is a lot of examples on this like Call robothic "lack personality" give curiosity over all she consider ilogical, like questioning aspect of her and beck designs, indirectly pointing out some contradicions in their capabilities and programation and what their creators claim they were made for), and developers show that they were captable to fix the issues the first game presents.
Hype didn’t kill it. The people who hyped it up were ironically its biggest enemies.
@@justice8718 i what mean exactly that with "Hype killed it".
You can see the other way around the developer were overly ambitious, raise the expectations to high and it fall flat, for relatively tiny mistakes that Pile up.
@@santiagoarrieta2175 What’s funny is that the hype for No 9 would’ve been fulfilled already if people were forgiving.
@@santiagoarrieta2175 Oh yeah, do you think that the Megaman is now completely dead?
@@justice8718 nop, why?
Mighty No 9 was ok in my opinion, it tried to reboot the Mega Man series, but the true reboot is Mega Man 11
Finally, someone I agree with. 👍
Oof. Did you just gaslight yourself into liking this game? I will agree that the boss, and character designs were good......but that's it...literally.
Everything else was just executed poorly. I do think if someone were to take this game on and do a remaster fine tuning everything that the game lacked...maybe it would be awesome then...nevermind we have MM11.
MM11 is literally worse than No 9.
Garbage take
Its good-ish
i dont think the game is good, but i also think it didnt deserved ALL the hate it got, its just really mediocre, it can be fun at times but for a 4 million budget game with the entire hopes of an entire generation of fans only to be betrayed right after with...a really mediocre, unpolished game with mid level design, weird difficulty spikes, subpar graphics and missed potential with some of the core game mechanics (like the absorption dash beck has), i think it has a reason for people to get this mad after it. inafune promised a thing and they delivered another one (which wasnt even good enough for the expectations he had built until there)
i also would like for a sequel to fix up the mess of the first game and offer a more fleshed out experience, but unfortunately that will never happen because inafune simply fumbled the bag, you cannot put the fault of this on the fans that gave him their money for not getting what he promised to them in my honest to god opinion
Let’s be honest here. Humans are simply getting worse and revealing who they are in the inside. Monsters.
Don’t curse your creator’s name.
He hates it.
@@justice8718 i don't get what you said
@@falciexd Read your last sentence and Exodus 20.
contrarian
Next time I have an unpopular opinion I'll be sure to include more candid clips of me giggling and kicking my feet while playing just to be safe.