2022-2025 Ford Maverick Hybrid: Summer MPG Loss Explained
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Our 2022 Ford Maverick Hybrid went from 47 mpg city to 35 when summer heat arrived. We outline the mechanical and design reasons that cause huge summer drops in city mpg and explain why not to panic. Applicable to all 2022-2025 models.
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This is the best explanation of how a hybrid vehicles work especially in states like Arizona and Florida during summer months.
Great explanation for those that have no mechanical knowledge of how their hybrid works! Thank you so much Sam
Great video and explanation. I use the AC on mine pretty much always, with NC temps mostly in the nineties, with no reduction in mpg...so I think it must be only extreme heat effects it. Good thing extreme humidity doesn't bother it though, or I'd be in trouble.😜
I drove a Ford C-Max for several years (in Atlanta) and I saw the opposite. I saw the MPGs drop in the winter when running the heat. As with the AC, the heat in hybrids is also electric, so that made sense. Also, the gas engine in a hybrid has to be kept above a certain temperature so it's ready to go as soon as it comes on. For that reason it runs more on very cold days just to stay warm. However, I didn't see a drop in the summer. And summers in Atlanta aren't exactly cool so I was always kind of surprised by that. I bought a new Honda Insight last year, and I am seeing the summer drop in that vehicle explained in this video.
Picked up Mav hybrid early April, in Austin, TX and started getting upper 30’s mpg combined , temps avg mid 80’s. MPG steadily increased (when I learned the brake coaching) to low 40’s even when by June temps avg was mid 90’s. By July temps avg was 100 and mileage combine dropped 1.5 mpg to 41. I’m very pleased and looking forward to late Sept when temps may drop into upper 80’s.
That's very similar to the mileage I get from my C-Max during the summer, just a couple of MPG lost. I used to think it was due to summer formula gas but now think it's definitely from increased AC use.
How do you feel about the breaks? I see some people say that the hybrid breaks hard in low speed.
Brakes😂
I’m on my 2nd Mav hybrid. If you happen to drive west to higher elevations (especially at +5000’ ) you’ll find your mpg will approach 50.
Thanks Thanks Thanks…I am in Texas 105 this week..Could not understand why my gas mileage went down from 41 to 37…Great info👍
I don't see this as a problem, just average out the whole year costs. Still impressive.
Great job explaining the electro mechanics working under the hood. I love this truck soooooooo much it’s a keeper all day long. Your description helps make us better drivers, thank you
So, ford is also using a 2 e-motor system, with 1 being the driving motor and the other being generator/starter? I thought they only use a single motor.
On my sonata hybrid, I noticed both the summer (living in south GA here) and the winter time, the MPG drops. In the summer its mostly the AC, although hybrid's AC is more efficient in cooling than compressor run by a gas engine. In the winter time, the engine runs more to provide heat as heat is only byproduct for gas engine. The most fuel efficient time is actual spring and fall, which are both short here in the south. When the temps are around 65-75F, the car runs most efficiently. I can constantly beat the EPA.
Well done.
Here in the Northeast, winter HEATING is the big power draw.
On a conventional vehicle, ambient temperature typically plays a much smaller role in the total picture, but some vehicles are exceptions. My 2004 Ranger with the 5L V6 (recently sold) used about a quart of fuel just to warm up on zero degree days. When you're only going a couple of miles, that hurts.
I haven't ordered my Maverick yet (waiting for the 2023 ordering to open), but I have a 2020 Escape Hybrid that has nearly the same system. With ambient temperatures in the 80s we are consistently over 45 MPG. While in Maine in June, with the temperature in the 70s, we averaged over 50 MPG on the tank of gas we used in-state, which was mostly rural driving at 45-60 MPH. In the winter cold, with mostly short hops around town, we weren't making 40 MPG most of the time.
YMMV. ;-)
Great video. I am noticing the same dip with my Fusion hybrid. I changed jobs and schedules so now I deal with rush hours and of course it's summer. I was working nights and coming home at 10:30pm on week nights in quiet suburbia meant if drove the speed limit I could cruise and hit all the green lights.
Up here in new England where it actually gets cold, not palm trees in the background cold, like ice and snow cold, the summer is the best MPG and I'm seeing a big drop in MPG because of the cold.
Like 63 mpg on my backroads drive to work, to 41 mpg on the same drive.
This is because the engine is running just for heat for the cabin, even when the vehicle is sitting at stop lights or cruising at 20 mph through school zones.
Really appreciate the video! LOVE the decal and wheels!!!!!
I've got a 2014 C-Max SEL. I've noticed a little drop in mpg in extreme heat in St Louis (95°+) especially in traffic jams. Same result if I pull onto a parking lot and "idle" with A/C while taking a long phone call.
Winter takes a small bite to keep the windshields defrosted. I bought the C-Max used and it came with heated front seats. They are a big help as I can keep the interior thermostat set lower. The gas engine kicks on often enough when charging the high voltage battery that it keeps the cabin temp warm enough.
Never had heated seats before but would strongly recommend them for a hybrid. They'll pay for themselves over time.
Plus if you're old enough, your back will thank you if you're stuck in traffic or on a trip!😉
Great video! Sam will tell you when to panic!😉😁
Still waiting on the delivery of our Maverick, so mean while we are enjoying our 2018 KIA Niro Hybrid. Here in the northwest corner of the state of Washington our temperatures as low as in the teens to as high as 100. At those extremes the hybrid mpg is really low. As low in the low 30's, but our overall mpg average over the four years has been 46 mpg. So yes, expect low mpg at extreme temperatures.
The opposite is true for a hybrid in Chicago...in summer months here, ac is not always used in your car but in the winter you always have your heat on the car. As a result, fuel economy here is lower in the winter.
Mileage on my C-Max drops a little in our Texas heat, nothing major, just a couple of MPG. However, very cold winter days can really impact it. The heater runs off the ICE coolant, and if you turn it on right when you're starting out the ICE stays on until the coolant is hot. If you leave the heater off, though, the hybrid cycles electric like normal. Just drive until the motor warms up a bit and then run the heater, and the mileage doesn't suffer much.
Thanks for this video. I'm waiting for verification from my dealer to get a 2023 order on an XLT. IF the order goes thru, this will be my first hybrid vehicle. Still, my 2014 Escape only gets about 20 to 25 MPG in the city, 30 hwy, so a milage 'dip' to 33MPG in the summer wouldn't be so bad at all. This is a nice channel, keep up the good work. 👍
I could not find any supporting evidence that high heat decreases battery capacity; in fact, I found the opposite. The one caveat might be that the charging current might be restricted to prevent battery overheating during charge in very hot weather, resulting in reduced charging. Otherwise, great job on explaining the various electric loads that rob range.
I'm constantly working on my trucker tan, so hopefully i can avoid this problem.
This is why window stickers say “your mileage will vary.”
I can’t help but think an on board charger and a bit more battery capacity might help with. A kWh or 2 more starting off each day might help run those cooling systems a bit longer
onboard charger as in the gas motor? That's still going to reduce MPG. More battery capacity will help but the will add weight and reduce MPG.
@@drink15 I meant like a plug that instead of getting range it would just be some extra juice to run the AC
@@slscamg another battery to plug in? Like a battery bank for your phone but for a car? That would be even more weight than just making a bigger battery.
Excellent review, thanks. I livein Florida this will help me understand the truck better after my purchase.
Great video! I’m in Ohio and we’ve had some warmer weather (90+) and I’ve noticed the same thing. All good I still love this truck.
Thanks....Very clear and detailed explanation.
Really considering the Maverick hybrid as my next vehicle. My only hesitation at this point is something I've been reading about & seeing on a few video reviews. Apparently, some people are complaining about strange low-speed braking behavior in the Maverick. They are saying that the brakes are too "grabby" & random at low speeds. Are you experiencing this issue?
We are. Working on a video in the next couple of weeks. At this point it's just a bit of an annoyance, wouldn't stop us from buying another one. We suspect Ford will fix it at some point.
I found this to be true in my 2020 Escape Hybrid at first, but I think it is something that can be overcome with training, as I have not experienced it much of late. Or maybe after 18k miles it's finally broken in?
Slightly klunky. Doesn't bother me at all. (16,000 miles on a Mav xlt hybrid)
Software updates have fixed this. We've had no issues since we got ours April 2023
I haven't received my Maverick yet, but this is all great information so that next summer, I'll know what I'm dealing with in regards to the MPG drop off. I also enjoy the footage of downtown PHX.
I was thinking the same thing.. You have restored my faith in people, because if we need a video to explain that - then I'm headed over to the Flat Earth Society YT channel
One other point to mention is that cool air is more dense and hot air. The more dense the air, the more molecules can fit in the cylinder and can result in better/more efficient combustion. It won't be a huge difference in MPGs but might add a little
Yes. That was almost a fifth point in our video - simply that gas engines don't work as efficiently in extreme heat. In the end we needed to keep it brief and focus on the top factors without muddying the message too much.
@@TestDrivenTV sorry. I must have missed that part. 😬
I don't yet have a Maverick. I'm fine with this. We do little city driving, I rarely use A.C. in city driving (roll windows down) unless my wife makes me turn it on, and I limit A.C. use to need only on the highway. I never understood why some ppl strain their electrical system and a.c. and cabin air quality by leaving their a.c. setting on max all Summer. I always flush mine out by going back to vent with outside air at the end of my drive, and I always turn the fan and compressor off when I park.
The MPG loss from having the window open (creating drag) is nearly the same as having the A/C on
@@HEMi1995 Depends on speed. Break point is typically around an average of 30 MPH: under that and you'll do better without, over and you'll do better with.
Nice video man
My mileage dropped in the winter as the engine runs more to run the heater when it's cold in the Seattle area
Temperature 🌡 more than 100f is running 31 mpg.
95f. 32 mpg
90f 35mpg
85f 37mpg
80f. 39mpg
75f. 41mpg
70f under 42mpg
You rock Sam!!
Good Explanation
Very much enjoyed your description and explanation. I live in the Phoenix metropolitan area as well. Regardless of reduced mpg, it still beats my prior truck at 20 mpg.
Very good, Sam. I understood everything except the part about engine cooling. How is the gas engine cooled without using a water pump? Or did you mean the water pump is electric too?
Water pump is electric as is the water pump for the battery.
@@TestDrivenTV Thank you, Sam. I've got it now.
Nice footage of Central Avenue and light rail in downtown Phoenix 😀. Love the customization of the Maverick. STAY COOL 😎
Picked up a hybrid xlt Maverick in March was getting 42+ mpg...now in July (phx heat is killer)...getting 35mpg...im a little disappointed in how much drop I'm seeing
Typical
Hey how has your Maverick air conditioning worked out this summer in Arizona? Are people in the backseat roasting because they don't have their own vent ducts? Looking at buying one but I'm unsure about its ability to keep passengers three four and five cool
Th AC works exceptionally well but no vents at the rear.
@@TestDrivenTV have you had many people sit back there on a hot day? Have they provided feedback of how they feel?
I have an older Tacoma right now and when people are in the back they complain about how hot it is but it's an old Tacoma so a lot of that I think has to do with the quality of the AC in the first place
We have never had rear seat passengers in the truck.
How does the Maverick AC do in that 110 degree heat? I'm in So Cal and have two hybrid Mavericks on order (one lariat, one XL) and we had a stretch of heat last month that my F150 Lariat struggled to keep the cab cool when idling. Once I got back on the road it cooled down, but sitting waiting for my granddaughter to get out of school the AC was unable to keep up.
The AC itself is stellar.
I experienced the opposite in BC,
Picked up in January, was great that winter and all through summer now winter just hit again and at 35,000km it all of the sudden went for 6.0L per 100km to 9.0L per hundred km
My friend at ford said that maybe the brakes are pistons are rubbing causing drag…
Any thoughts
I like the graphics on your Maverick, makes me want to do something similar to mine if they ever come in. One question, I work traffic control, 85% I am driving and 15% I am sitting still doing traffic control. The Maverick will cycle on and off for hours while sitting on the side of the road? Its hot in Texas.
If it's powered on an the AC is on, yes the engine will be on and off to keep the battery charged up.
Good video, but Idk why anyone would need an explanation for this. More use of A/C = more power drained from the battery = less battery available while driving = more gas usage = lower MPG.
It’s not rocket science.
Been 95+ for the last two weeks in my area (going to be 110+ the next few days) and I still got 42.2 MPG at the pump the other day.
Thank you ~
It would seem not rocket science yes, but watching the internet has revealed a lot of people freaking out about it. The sky is not falling. Air conditioning is not free regardless of what powers your car.
Is this the As seen on TV product test guy too?
My maverick was getting 46.5 miles per gallon this summer in ohio. It now is getting 44 mph. Is that because I'm using heater more maybe.
I’m wondering how many of the 2.5 gas engines used on the hybrid Maverick have failed. Ford won’t say except for the 26 that failed and caused the fires. I’d like a hybrid but still not sure if it will last as long as a 2.0 gasoline only model with the same front wheel drive. Opinion please? Yes I acknowledge that hybrid is getting better gas mileage but I’m looking for long term overall cost of ownership.
Gasoline costs alone are about 50-60% of the 2.0 EcoBoost. Maintenance costs are less over time because the hybrid won't require as many oil changes etc. It's warranty coverage is longer for core components related the hybrid system. The recall issue is something Ford did out of precaution, there have been no incidents or injuries according to the recall action. It's about prevention. We're not that concerned about it.
does the hybird have brake parking when you are stopped at a light brake hold?
Yes, even the XL hybrid has that
I live in MN. Hybrid performance in winter? Good heat in cabin?
Im surprised your editors let you say "ive been jewed" @6:27 I appreciate the video. Luckily it doesn't get crazy hot here on Vancouver Island
That is NOT what was said. Listen better. "Jooked" ;)
Do you think there's a way to double or triple the battery pack or another factory pack under the seat to extend the ev range and mpg?
Probably not. Its all computer controlled. Plus where can you add a secondary battery under the vehicle?
If sitting in the car at night with the a/c on how often does the ICE kick on? I liked car camping in my Prius because here in FL it’s stays hot even at night & I would run my a/c all night with the ICE kicking on about once every 1/2 hour for about 4 or 5 mins. Anyone do the same with their Mav Hybrid?
It would be on and off as needed.
I drove my Maverick into an industrial kiln at 1600 F. Why don’t my mileage be better?
LOL. All the plastic parts melted, too.
I drove a 1 liter 3 cylinder Geo with a 5-speed manual for 8 years and it got similar mpg as this very complex truck. Better buy a warranty for the life of it as no part of it will be cheap if available. Perhaps by then, you can park them in a garage w/o fear of the battery catching fire and burning your house down as has been reported by a few. I'm sure though that some gasoline vehicles have also. I'm sure that in the next decade though that we will all be doing EVs powered by fossil fuel/nuke and renewable electricity. A shame we don't have the cobalt China has to make batteries.
So the AC compressor is not driven by the gas engine? That is different. I don't have a Mav. i wonder where the AC compressor is located then?
Compressor is in the engine compartment, just driven by an electric motor.
Ford's various hybrids have been using electric A/C units versus the gas engine belt driven units for about 10 or 12 years, I think. I know all the C-Maxs (2013-2018) use electric units. And I think last few years of the 1st generation Escape hybrids switched to the electric A/C units.
Even my wife is smart enough to know, that’s not a truck …
110 degrees and you have a black long sleeve shirt on?
It's a dry heat.
Batteries are like humans and prefer to operate around 72 degrees. Anything above and below will have a negative effect on operation. Ask a Tesla owner in northern WI how there range is in the winter time.
I've seen the same, but not as dramatic as yours
hybrid doesnt work well during summer and winter.. only good if u live in climates like CA
Turn off AC and MPG is fixed.😀
Hyundai Santa Fe made in USA. Ford made in Mexico. i will take the Hyundai. Same is true for Toyota hybrids. 🤔
Point of Fact.....cars made in Mexico,in US managed plants,have fewer recalls than US plants.
Actually, I read that the power plant is built in the US, as are many other parts. Final assembly is in Mexico ...