Outstanding walkthrough - pointing out the rational compromises for the price-point AND all the details put in place for safety in crashes - even details like key-holes - soooo cool.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
A someone who lives in the rust belt, I look under this vehicle and see a lot of exposed overlapping steel weldments that are prime for collecting salt to rust apart from the inside. Not a big deal for me, since my first step as an owner of this vehicle would be to fluid film every nook and cranny before it sees salt. But the average owner is unlikely to do that. Two things really stood out to me during the walkthrough, the fully exposed vapor canister and associated hoses I would feel a lot better about having a plastic shield covering it to protect it from direct road spray and debris. Second, the exhaust system is terrible, there is way too much rust on it for a new vehicle and the fact that it includes a special heat exchanger that likely won't be well supported via the aftermarket makes it a very expensive system to replace. I know they're building this truck to a price point, but honestly, the exhaust should have been a higher quality of steel/stainless to make it last a lot longer. A few too many corners cut to make that low MSRP for the base model.
@@jonmccormick8683 I've seen good things about Surface Shield, I may give it a try once my fluid film and woolwax supplies run out (might be a few years!)
@@ChrisHollandPSU Yes, it looked like there were some exposed fasteners up front were something had been removed to get a better view. I’m not so sure under the bed because that hot exhaust system would not mix well with plastic aero shields. That would also be a double edge sword for trapping corrosive road chemicals.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
@@MunroLive8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Jordan is my favorite Munro personality. He's very informative and doesn't mix in a lot of opinions with the information. Sorry Sandy, you're opinions that are continually repeated from video-to-video are getting tiresome. The use of a laser pointer is extremely helpful in what is being discussed. Keep up the great work.
Completely agree. Jordan’s presentations are more factual and educational. Sandy’s presentations come across a lot more like “this isn’t cutting edge, a Tesla, or my idea, so I hate it!”
The bracket you called curious, I actually removed from my Camry when installing a tow hitch. It is required for when you slam on the brakes and the car nose dives and the guy behind you is nose diving too. So he doesn’t go underneath your car and flip your car over. It’s something to catch like another bumper.
Interesting explanation on how everything works or moves in a crash environment. I always knew everything had reasons for how they were made, but you simplified it well enough for me to understand why.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
@@GoldDiamond-qr8qf, I’m not entirely sure, but my best guess is they are the cooling system for the hybrid battery pack. They are too big for fuel lines, which are visible on the other side of the exhaust and there’s no reason for this vehicle to have a separate rear seat A/C as a large SUV or van would have.
As I wait for my 2022 Maverick order to roll over to a 2023 model (it's been a year since I ordered) I found this video to be very interesting and useful.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Hi! Unfortunately you are wrong. That rust on the prop shaft is due to a special material named CORTEN. It was created for alowing superficial rust that protects the inside material. It is also created for avoiding the necessity of painting the material and therefore a better and ecological choise. In time becomes gray instead of rusty. So, it is not a bug, it is a feature. Sorry for my english, I am not native english speaker.
This guy's really telling me Ford out here making rust happen faster and trying to play it off as a good thing. I don't even think you're right but either way it's a sad situation because either you're a moron or it's true and you're not a moron but Ford be developing rust tryna make your whip wear out faster. It's one or the other man
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Actually, you are the moron here. I don't know if the half-shafts are made with COR-TEN, but if they are, then a protective patina of rust is a deliberate characteristic of this copper-chromium alloy steel; its technical designation is ASTM A606 Type 4. It was originally developed by U.S. Steel in the 1930s, tho' didn't become popular until the 50s and 60s. It is commonly used in applications subjected to the elements, but where paint or other coatings are not likely to last. Interestingly, its first use was in the construction of railway cars. You might want to offer Vali Vali (and Ford) an apology, because it is pretty clear from your comment that you are clueless.
So like a firearm? Blueing is a form of oxidation that is a protection. Same thing with rust blueing of steel parts and guns, as well as actual patina rust designed for protection.
What a superb education. Pleas have Jordan do more of these videos. Man is a natural and clearly knows his business. No lag, no boredom just clear, concise education. Love it
I agree with Mr Moore! Some specifics that others may have mentioned. Good pacing of conversation, not so fast the pitch of voice went up (high or squeaky) but enough to keep the ADHD people (like me!) on point and paying attention. The level of detail was good for the audience (me!) some gurus may have been bored. I think it also gave enough hints for those who wanted more on where to research. It is funny but the laser pointing, and the conversation or comments to camera guru actually add significant impact to those who learn differently such as through motion or give and take conversation. Don't know if it is the person selected (Goose! lol) Jordan or the prep and training done before hand. Not as succinct as Mr Moore, but he is correct.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
This is the most interesting review of the Maverick I have seen yet which gives you an understanding of how it compares to other trucks and what you are really getting. Just discovered this channel and how you are doing these under view reviews of other vehicles and trucks on the market
That thing will crumble in cold climates. I do like the concept, but using cheap materials makes these vehicles with a low life expectation and awful value for later owners. Yes, with some undercoating, regular maintenance and some love you can get a lot out of these. But lets be real here, only a fraction of owners will do this. I would love to see the same thing with better quality at a little higher price point, but nobody pays for quality anymore.
This thing sells for less than American motorcycles. So it's going to be an engineering exercise for getting it to 60,000 miles without a ton of warranty claims. At least I suspect that question was asked 1000 times during material choices and design decisions? Regardless, it's a great value equation vehicle for a segment of the market
@@javelinadad yeah I agree man. It makes sense they sources cheaper materials to keep cost down but if we think about it for a second, that means the vehicle wears out faster and in the long run we probably might even lose more money. It should be affordable but why so complex? If it was a little less complex they could afford the better alloys or whatever material they decide which is less likely to rust or fail due to cheaper manufacturing ECT. 🤔 It's tough, it's hard to get a bug expensive factory to produce something that lasts and is good price. Especially in the highly regulated auto industry. I think it's tough. I don't like unibody tbh.
Yeah, the muffler looked corroded but it's a disposable part, I'm not that worried. Rather be worried about the non replaceable parts like chassis, suspension, etc.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
I remember the Original Maverick. I was hoping that my Grandma would keep it in good shape and pass it down to me when I got my Driver's license, but it rusted out in 3-4 years from brand new. Glad to see Ford kept something of the old Maverick name. RUST
I think pressure washing the underbody once a month in the winter in salt country would reduce rusting , but probably remove Fluid-Film. Here in South Texas, unless you live on the coast there isn't much underbody rust but cab corners often rust out from the inside.
@@timothykeith1367 Low pressure water rinsing will remove salt from most of the under-body without removing Fluid Film from the areas where accumulated and entrapped water and salt would induce the most rusting.
All cars were rusting quickly back then son; Ford was no different. Nothing rusted quicker than a Japanese vehicle though. I’d be curious to know if FoMoCo is using Corten steel in some of these components. That might explain the surface rust on a few underbody parts.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
yes, it has plenty of places underneath to collect moisture, dirt , mud, snow, and everything else. They are expected to be driven on paved roads and around town. I just bought a 22 that spent it's life on Oklahoma dirt roads. All the under covers have been ripped off, the front and rear bumper covers all loose broken attachments, front fender liners ripped and one missing. I washed two five gallon bukets of packed dirt mud out of the holes. bracket areas and everything is still coated a with red film, exhaust solid rust and most of the suspension parts also. Also on the 2.0 the aux. water pump electrical connector hangs down at bumper level and was broke off. Conclusion: keep it on road and in a dry state or make sure to hose it down good and add preventitive anti-rusting.. excellent video, answered a lot of questions I had, thanks
I just heard of you today from a Facebook Maverick group. I have been living under a rock! You are legit! Definitely won me over with this review. Subscribed!
The mercury sables I owned (3) 1987-1996 had stainless steel mufflers. I had 270,700 miles on one before it gave out and I never had to replace the mufflers on any of them.
60's through end of the 70's, maybe. 80's body on frame Fords were very well built and lasted decades. EFI Panther platforms were 300,000 mile cars, and trucks of that era ares still oft on the roads. My fleet of old 80's Fords will outlast these Mavericks, especially if you run them like trucks. That unibody is not solid steel frame.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Very articulate and informative review of the Ford Mavericks undercarriage. Jordan does a great job at presentation and will be excellent at being an engineering professor. I was totally engaged the whole video and clearly understood what he was talking about. Thanks for the mind stimulating observation 🤙🏽♥️
Brings me joy to see a more simplistic philosophy to cars and trucks. Doesn't mean they have to be bad. There are many points where this truck could be improved.
The undercoating will make the truck rust faster. The only type of undercoatings that will work, are a petroleum based, or lanolin based. Cosmoline works very well. The navy uses it on thier vessels.
@@TheTyrial86 I was thinking of making some cosmoline - paraffin with a grease that would be heated to make it flow so that it could be sprayed on brushed on. What was the Ziebart made of? Did Ziebart have zinc added? Industrial quantities of paraffin isn't too costly but I haven't found a homebrew formula for cosmoline.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
You have talked to me Goose through this awesome video. Watching your video made me feel more confident in having places my 2023 Ford Maverick order. Much thanks!
Wow, very smart presentation that explains a lot of the neat manufacturing engineering efficiencies seen in the Maverick's design. Inexpensive does not mean cheap.
Where are you getting this idea that O2 sensors ignite the air/fuel mixture? I've never heard of such a thing. The heat from the combusted exhaust heats up the O2 sensors and Cats so they can operate correctly. Modern O2 sensors need to be heated up by an internal heating element, like a glow plug only to get up to the required 600F temp to operate and produce a voltage, but they don't act like a glow plug for the purpose of igniting anything. Older, single wire, O2 sensors didn't even have a heating element. The catalyst process is independent of the O2 sensors and will operate on it's own.
15:11 I'm an insurance adjuster and have had two vehicles total recently because the exhaust was jammed into the frame causing it to bend. Could be to either absorb or deflect the energy away.
Sensible review. I appreciate it. For the price point, it's worth a review like this. Few people know or care about their power train. But we noticed with electric and electricfied vehicles, people paid closer attention, likely due to the gas mileage. And trucks. The north American market is locked in on trucks, so this has to deliver. And I think for the price point IT delivers 😊
Thanks. I hope this is my next vehicle as I on have about $25k to spend. I miss my 1991chevy s10 was a great small truck. Put over 250, 000 miles on it.
Great video..what I see is a vehicle that's simple and not overly complicated which IMO is one of the reasons I want one. Simple and "reliable" is what we need to get back to. Would love to see the same walk through for the AWD because that's the one Im interested in. LOL Guess I'll be replacing the exhaust when its time :)
@@bobm7275 Not worried about it at all…as long as I can work on it….I’m game. Keep in mind I’ve owned and worded on VW Touareg’s so NOTHING scares me 😂
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
I love these engineering walkthroughs...really provide some good insight into how well an automaker thought out the design. If what you can see was pretty well engineered, the parts you can't see probably were too. Interesting that the exhaust/muffler was already pretty corroded but the tailpipe wasn't. I suspect Ford will eventually have to relent and switch to stainless once it becomes public knowledge that Maverick exhausts only last 2-3 years.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
The downstream one is same as my 2003 PZEV focus , it is a 2-way catalyst not a 3-way. The upper 3-way is a mani-cat. bolted straight to cylinder head. The fast light-off of the primary cat is because it is bolted DIRECTLY to the cylinder head.
Glad I got the extra coverage -- looking like I will need a new muffler during the 1st 5 yrs. Think I will add an aftermarket undercoating as well. Cheers
@@bextar6365 when you’re trying to keep a vehicle at 43% of average new car sales prices, it makes a tremendous amount of sense to save $50 on a muffler
I put a few of these into service for my business. Mostly guys running appointments but sometimes trucking overlooked parts out to a jobsite. Holds a half pallet of solar panels just fine. Tailgate down obviously
If this truck is as reliable long term as a early 2000's Honda Civic or Toyota Camry than it's an ideal economy vehicle and worth every penny of it's bargain price. However, if it's plagued with long term issues like most economy Chevy and Ford cars it's setting up people for years of frustration and lost money. I wish I had a crystal ball that could see into the future to know if these new bargain priced hybrids and electric vehicles coming from Chevy and Ford will actually be reliable long term. But looking at the level of rust on cheaper components, I'm expecting it to be a junker past 100,00 miles.
“most economy Chevy & ford vehicles” I had very good runs on my GM & Ford economy vehicles… I was upset when I totaled my 1998 Escort at 19 years, I never had any problems with it. We have a 2001 Sunfire and it is still great! Now working a 2015 Ford Focus, a very nice car, with odd shift feel to gain good gas mileage, but never needed to bring it in for anything outside oil & tires. If Ford & GM economy cars continue to get 200k+ miles & ~20 years, good for them! That battery pack is going to make this economy car disposable.
It's frustrating to see them intuitively design a hybrid system like a Toyota in terms of stationary planetary gears with few moving parts but then you see the rust and it's brand new. Soon you'll see many of the people who swore they loved it to death selling theirs right before it becomes unreliable which will probably be sooner rather than later for many. That's what I believe. I see it lots these days In The auto industry because the vehicles are so complex people are worried about hanging into them long term so it turns into a big game of hot potato. the BMW dealer be cranking up every model he has to move around hoping it doesn't pop a check engine light or the trunk open button doesn't just stop working for some reason before anyone even buys it
09:53 That black bar going around the battery pack must be scavenged from their parts bin too. It has several brackets on it that are not connected to anything.
I know the hybrid has a smaller fuel tank than the ICE version. I just wonder is there enough room under the Hybrid to put that larger fuel tank in and maybe even extending the range of the hybrid even more. I do plan on getting the hybrid in the next year or so. If that would work it may be a mod I may consider after some warranties run out.
Thank you. The Maverick is in my bullseye for my next vehicle. It's nice to know how they achieved the low price, and I'm not surprised at all. To everyone saying they won't buy one now, you're missing the point. This is an entry level, 10 year, disposable vehicle. They include modern safety engineering clever use of design at an industry leading price. When they release the PHEV version, it will qualify for the 7500 credit making this a very capable and efficient truck for well under 20k. If I have to replace the muffler 3 days after the warranty expires, so be it. I've saved thousands on fuel and vehicle purchase price.
If you use this relatively long wheelbase vehicle off road be very mindful of the expensive low hanging components that can be damaged; and with voids that can accumulate significant mud and dirt deposits.
@@GHinWI Everybody has a pressure washer these days. When you wash the underbody after the roads have been wet with snow and ice you can prevent much of the rust. Then, in the spring , drive on ramps and paint where there might be a small rust problem. Use Fluid-Film. I grew up where exhaust systems were replaced every 4 years. Here in south texas the underbody of 20 year old vehicles can be pretty clean with sun baked clear coat issues common. WIndow tinting helps preserve the interior - or the inside could be cracked and ugly. In the past many didn't want to keep their cars for that long, but the average is more than 12 years and is not uncommon to drive 25 year old vehicles - we can't afford to replace cars as often as we once did. Trucks tend to be used for much longer than cars.
@@timothykeith1367 : re-wetting the underside of the car makes the rust problem worse. Dry and salty is tolerable, repeatedly wet-and-slightly-less-salty is a recipe for corrosion. Fluid film is definitely a good idea, but my experience is that it washes off easily.
Thanks Jordan for your intreresting and detailed insights into how Ford has designed its new entry level Maverick. Bought new entry level Fords for years. It was always best to trade them in after three years. Hopefully as Ford moves to all electric they can build vehicles with lower annual upkeep costs.
This looks like a disposable vehicle, not a keeper, but something to get an unwary first time new car buyer to buy a Ford. Unless the sheet metal is a better material that the running gear, these won't survive as long as the first gen Japanese small pickups did, and they will be much more expensive to maintain or repair.
Any vehicle with a li-ion battery is not a keeper… cost to replace the battery costs a lot of $$$ & CO2 in mining, manufacturing, and transportation of the components & module.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Current observation of main fuse box under the hood is that there is a likely issue with exposed connections, poor mechanical connections, uncoated lightweight bus bars and corrosion.
Great anaylsis. Cant wait to see you guys react to the new Lucid motor video! Thats some really cool pure engineering happening over there! (Even if I doubt it will make its way into affordable vehicles).
Thank you! Same water pump BMW has used for years, built like a mini electric turbocharger😎 Can’t recall seeing anyone pull a trailer with a Ford Ranger over the last 30+ year here in SoCal. Now it’s a front wheel drive Ranger? I guess traction empty will be better…..which is how most are used🙄
Here in NC I saw a dozen of these things hauling boats, atvs, and personal watercraft all over the coast this summer. But on this side of the country people haul using SUVs, station wagons, sedans, lawn tractors anything they can put a tow hitch on.
I don’t know much about care at all, would you recommend this truck for someone that will use it to drive to work and take their dog to the park? Not in a super cold area. Or should you just spend more on a Tacoma?
My guess is that this particular vehicle has had multiple short trips (or hybrid ICE cycles) that don't let the long exhaust heat up sufficiently to remove combustion moisture.
You're correct about the combustion moisture but that would not cause external discoloration like you see here; that kind of damage is invisible until It breaks through a seam or perforates a pipe or something. That corrosion on the outside is largely cosmetic, however I'm very concerned about the quality of those component hangers. They are weak and small and will fail after a couple of seasons of road salt exposure, and this exhaust will be dragging on the ground.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
After seeing this highly informative video, I am now convinced that I should not buy a Maverick. The amount of rust on this (allegedly "new") vehicle, and the low-quality materials that were used for some of the components make this a "no thank you" vehicle for me. Thanks Munro for this insightful tour.
I really wanted one and my wife and I drove several. Every time it was a bad experience. Passenger seat comfort is abysmal, even the more adjustable driver seat would cripple anyone taller than 5’10” (I’m 6’1”) on a long trip. Build quality is also horrible. A shame because over the past 15 years I’ve put on 1.4 million kms in ford’s, but ordered a Toyota for my next work vehicle.
@@hissingoose I seriously doubt that this is an actual statement of fact. I have owned my Maverick for over a year now and its seating is very comfortable. There is nothing wrong with the build quality. The materials used are not fancy but very durable.
Outstanding walkthrough - pointing out the rational compromises for the price-point AND all the details put in place for safety in crashes - even details like key-holes - soooo cool.
LOL NO HE SAID THERE IS TWO CATALYTIC CONVERTERS
WITH MIDSTREAM LOL 😂😂🤣🤣
HE'S TALKING OUT OF HIS ASS
4:25 that probably means the truck is designed to be damaged right?
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
A someone who lives in the rust belt, I look under this vehicle and see a lot of exposed overlapping steel weldments that are prime for collecting salt to rust apart from the inside. Not a big deal for me, since my first step as an owner of this vehicle would be to fluid film every nook and cranny before it sees salt. But the average owner is unlikely to do that.
Two things really stood out to me during the walkthrough, the fully exposed vapor canister and associated hoses I would feel a lot better about having a plastic shield covering it to protect it from direct road spray and debris. Second, the exhaust system is terrible, there is way too much rust on it for a new vehicle and the fact that it includes a special heat exchanger that likely won't be well supported via the aftermarket makes it a very expensive system to replace. I know they're building this truck to a price point, but honestly, the exhaust should have been a higher quality of steel/stainless to make it last a lot longer. A few too many corners cut to make that low MSRP for the base model.
They removed the long underbody aero shields to show the vapor canister and battery, normally those are covered.
Try PB Blaster "Surface Shield" = less greasy than fluid film, goes on thinner and dries faster. Meijer has the cans.
Out west in Idaho my 2006 Tacoma still like new underneath. No rust or anything. It literally looks like just a couple years old under there
@@jonmccormick8683 I've seen good things about Surface Shield, I may give it a try once my fluid film and woolwax supplies run out (might be a few years!)
@@ChrisHollandPSU Yes, it looked like there were some exposed fasteners up front were something had been removed to get a better view. I’m not so sure under the bed because that hot exhaust system would not mix well with plastic aero shields. That would also be a double edge sword for trapping corrosive road chemicals.
Goose - You engineering analysis is simply excellent! Thank you!
Very informative and delivered by an articulate, well educated presenter.
Thanks for watching!
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
@@MunroLive8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Jordan is my favorite Munro personality. He's very informative and doesn't mix in a lot of opinions with the information. Sorry Sandy, you're opinions that are continually repeated from video-to-video are getting tiresome. The use of a laser pointer is extremely helpful in what is being discussed. Keep up the great work.
Yes laser pointer is a great tool
I agree, Jordan is easy to listen to. His descriptions are concise and to the point. His insight is remarkable.
Thank you for making this comment. It made me think back and realize that Jordan has a lot of strengths. So many cool team members at Munro!
Completely agree. Jordan’s presentations are more factual and educational. Sandy’s presentations come across a lot more like “this isn’t cutting edge, a Tesla, or my idea, so I hate it!”
Does a 73-year-old earn the right, by his age, to be a curmudgeon?
Jordan, you do a great job explaining on layman’s terms. Keep up the great work. 👍
The bracket you called curious, I actually removed from my Camry when installing a tow hitch. It is required for when you slam on the brakes and the car nose dives and the guy behind you is nose diving too. So he doesn’t go underneath your car and flip your car over. It’s something to catch like another bumper.
Makes sense
Interesting explanation on how everything works or moves in a crash environment. I always knew everything had reasons for how they were made, but you simplified it well enough for me to understand why.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
@@GoldDiamond-qr8qf, I’m not entirely sure, but my best guess is they are the cooling system for the hybrid battery pack.
They are too big for fuel lines, which are visible on the other side of the exhaust and there’s no reason for this vehicle to have a separate rear seat A/C as a large SUV or van would have.
As I wait for my 2022 Maverick order to roll over to a 2023 model (it's been a year since I ordered) I found this video to be very interesting and useful.
I ordered mine 10/27. Build date, so far, is Nov 7th the very end of production for the '22 model. Hopefully you will get yours soon
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Maverick is based in the Escape/Puma and Bronco Sport chassis so there is a lot of part sharing with other worldwide Ford products.
Hi! Unfortunately you are wrong. That rust on the prop shaft is due to a special material named CORTEN. It was created for alowing superficial rust that protects the inside material. It is also created for avoiding the necessity of painting the material and therefore a better and ecological choise. In time becomes gray instead of rusty. So, it is not a bug, it is a feature.
Sorry for my english, I am not native english speaker.
Ive seen giant giant electrical poles that have that surface rust and even a bridge, Im sure its on purpose as well
This guy's really telling me Ford out here making rust happen faster and trying to play it off as a good thing. I don't even think you're right but either way it's a sad situation because either you're a moron or it's true and you're not a moron but Ford be developing rust tryna make your whip wear out faster. It's one or the other man
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Actually, you are the moron here. I don't know if the half-shafts are made with COR-TEN, but if they are, then a protective patina of rust is a deliberate characteristic of this copper-chromium alloy steel; its technical designation is ASTM A606 Type 4. It was originally developed by U.S. Steel in the 1930s, tho' didn't become popular until the 50s and 60s. It is commonly used in applications subjected to the elements, but where paint or other coatings are not likely to last. Interestingly, its first use was in the construction of railway cars. You might want to offer Vali Vali (and Ford) an apology, because it is pretty clear from your comment that you are clueless.
So like a firearm? Blueing is a form of oxidation that is a protection. Same thing with rust blueing of steel parts and guns, as well as actual patina rust designed for protection.
What a superb education. Pleas have Jordan do more of these videos. Man is a natural and clearly knows his business. No lag, no boredom just clear, concise education. Love it
I agree with Mr Moore! Some specifics that others may have mentioned. Good pacing of conversation, not so fast the pitch of voice went up (high or squeaky) but enough to keep the ADHD people (like me!) on point and paying attention. The level of detail was good for the audience (me!) some gurus may have been bored. I think it also gave enough hints for those who wanted more on where to research. It is funny but the laser pointing, and the conversation or comments to camera guru actually add significant impact to those who learn differently such as through motion or give and take conversation. Don't know if it is the person selected (Goose! lol) Jordan or the prep and training done before hand. Not as succinct as Mr Moore, but he is correct.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
This is the most interesting review of the Maverick I have seen yet which gives you an understanding of how it compares to other trucks and what you are really getting.
Just discovered this channel and how you are doing these under view reviews of other vehicles and trucks on the market
Outstanding job, Jordan! My biggest takeaway: That muffler. Whew. Even at ultra low-cost, not a good look for Ford.
That thing will crumble in cold climates. I do like the concept, but using cheap materials makes these vehicles with a low life expectation and awful value for later owners. Yes, with some undercoating, regular maintenance and some love you can get a lot out of these. But lets be real here, only a fraction of owners will do this.
I would love to see the same thing with better quality at a little higher price point, but nobody pays for quality anymore.
This thing sells for less than American motorcycles. So it's going to be an engineering exercise for getting it to 60,000 miles without a ton of warranty claims. At least I suspect that question was asked 1000 times during material choices and design decisions?
Regardless, it's a great value equation vehicle for a segment of the market
@@javelinadad yeah I agree man. It makes sense they sources cheaper materials to keep cost down but if we think about it for a second, that means the vehicle wears out faster and in the long run we probably might even lose more money. It should be affordable but why so complex? If it was a little less complex they could afford the better alloys or whatever material they decide which is less likely to rust or fail due to cheaper manufacturing ECT. 🤔 It's tough, it's hard to get a bug expensive factory to produce something that lasts and is good price. Especially in the highly regulated auto industry.
I think it's tough. I don't like unibody tbh.
Yeah, the muffler looked corroded but it's a disposable part, I'm not that worried. Rather be worried about the non replaceable parts like chassis, suspension, etc.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Thanks for your professionalism 🙏
Great detailed design overview Jordan. thanks so much for stating the acronym names and test names.
Simply just simply an excellent why and how the systems are made and operate. Loved it
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support!
I remember the Original Maverick. I was hoping that my Grandma would keep it in good shape and pass it down to me when I got my Driver's license, but it rusted out in 3-4 years from brand new. Glad to see Ford kept something of the old Maverick name. RUST
I think pressure washing the underbody once a month in the winter in salt country would reduce rusting , but probably remove Fluid-Film. Here in South Texas, unless you live on the coast there isn't much underbody rust but cab corners often rust out from the inside.
@@timothykeith1367 Low pressure water rinsing will remove salt from most of the under-body without removing Fluid Film from the areas where accumulated and entrapped water and salt would induce the most rusting.
All cars were rusting quickly back then son; Ford was no different. Nothing rusted quicker than a Japanese vehicle though.
I’d be curious to know if FoMoCo is using Corten steel in some of these components. That might explain the surface rust on a few underbody parts.
Excellently presented with abundance of knowledge and experience.
Really fascinating to see what some of these companys are doing to cut cost. A great little video.
Love the way jordan explains! Your knowledge very impressive! My Favorite Channel- Munro Live
Wow, thank you!
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
yes, it has plenty of places underneath to collect moisture, dirt , mud, snow, and everything else. They are expected to be driven on paved roads and around town. I just bought a 22 that spent it's life on Oklahoma dirt roads. All the under covers have been ripped off, the front and rear bumper covers all loose broken attachments, front fender liners ripped and one missing. I washed two five gallon bukets of packed dirt mud out of the holes. bracket areas and everything is still coated a with red film, exhaust solid rust and most of the suspension parts also. Also on the 2.0 the aux. water pump electrical connector hangs down at bumper level and was broke off. Conclusion: keep it on road and in a dry state or make sure to hose it down good and add preventitive anti-rusting.. excellent video, answered a lot of questions I had, thanks
Great Job, Thank You so much for the Walk through under the body of the Maverick.
"Goose", hilarious!!! Well played!
I just heard of you today from a Facebook Maverick group. I have been living under a rock! You are legit! Definitely won me over with this review. Subscribed!
The mercury sables I owned (3) 1987-1996 had stainless steel mufflers. I had 270,700 miles on one before it gave out and I never had to replace the mufflers on any of them.
Jordan's a stud, probably my favorite Munro guy......sorry Sandy, but he's top notch. I found this really interesting and very well done. Thank you!
Very nicely done video. It is the first of yours that I have seen (just ordered a Maverick). You seem like a teacher.
While built "to a price point", its still way better than cars from the 60's thru 90's in quality.
i would beg to differ
@@coldspring624 depends on what aspects were talking.
60's through end of the 70's, maybe. 80's body on frame Fords were very well built and lasted decades. EFI Panther platforms were 300,000 mile cars, and trucks of that era ares still oft on the roads.
My fleet of old 80's Fords will outlast these Mavericks, especially if you run them like trucks. That unibody is not solid steel frame.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Good review! I learned a lot. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very articulate and informative review of the Ford Mavericks undercarriage. Jordan does a great job at presentation and will be excellent at being an engineering professor. I was totally engaged the whole video and clearly understood what he was talking about. Thanks for the mind stimulating observation 🤙🏽♥️
Brings me joy to see a more simplistic philosophy to cars and trucks. Doesn't mean they have to be bad. There are many points where this truck could be improved.
Seems like a better presentation with only one person to focus on. Good job!
Was waiting for this!
Me to
Same!!! I’m waiting on delivery of mine. Same color as this one.
Glad I paid to have the truck undercoating done when I did the spray in bed liner.
The undercoating will make the truck rust faster. The only type of undercoatings that will work, are a petroleum based, or lanolin based.
Cosmoline works very well. The navy uses it on thier vessels.
@@TheTyrial86 Folks who do undercoat these days use only cosmoline
@@TheTyrial86 I was thinking of making some cosmoline - paraffin with a grease that would be heated to make it flow so that it could be sprayed on brushed on. What was the Ziebart made of? Did Ziebart have zinc added? Industrial quantities of paraffin isn't too costly but I haven't found a homebrew formula for cosmoline.
Transmission fluid in a sprayer bug spray
Those unused rear brackets look like they are for the independent rear suspension on non-hybrid models
Very informative, as always! I really appreciate the insights you all give!
Our pleasure!
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Excellent and easy to understand commentary on the underbody components.
I appreciate your presentations!
very helpful to see how costs are cut and how this strategy could only be used by a big company .
Fascinating video! I'd love to see you do the same for the 2.0/AWD/FX4 version!
very nicely done overview
You have talked to me Goose through this awesome video. Watching your video made me feel more confident in having places my 2023 Ford Maverick order. Much thanks!
Wow, very smart presentation that explains a lot of the neat manufacturing engineering efficiencies seen in the Maverick's design. Inexpensive does not mean cheap.
Thank You for your complete break down of this truck. I had my doubts and am Not sold on this vehicle at all.
THANKS GOOSE 😁… and the REST OF THE MUNRO TEAM FOR DIGGING INTO THIS FOR US 🤗💚💚💚
I'm wondering how similar the small transit van is to the maverick, looking at that control arm specifically
Where are you getting this idea that O2 sensors ignite the air/fuel mixture? I've never heard of such a thing. The heat from the combusted exhaust heats up the O2 sensors and Cats so they can operate correctly. Modern O2 sensors need to be heated up by an internal heating element, like a glow plug only to get up to the required 600F temp to operate and produce a voltage, but they don't act like a glow plug for the purpose of igniting anything. Older, single wire, O2 sensors didn't even have a heating element. The catalyst process is independent of the O2 sensors and will operate on it's own.
This is why I came down in the comments, I heard that and could not believe my ears. WTF is he saying.
I think he learned that o2 sensors have heaters in them and made this idea up in his head.
Super- Informative. Thank you very much.
Excellent job! I worked for OMC engineering , Thanks, TW
15:11 I'm an insurance adjuster and have had two vehicles total recently because the exhaust was jammed into the frame causing it to bend. Could be to either absorb or deflect the energy away.
Excellent Technical Walkthrough!!! Very informative.
These are some of the best and informative videos. Great job.
Thanks, Tommy!
Great walkthrough inspection! Now I may wait for the updated Ranger
Sensible review. I appreciate it. For the price point, it's worth a review like this. Few people know or care about their power train. But we noticed with electric and electricfied vehicles, people paid closer attention, likely due to the gas mileage. And trucks. The north American market is locked in on trucks, so this has to deliver. And I think for the price point IT delivers 😊
GREAT explanations and mechanical review, thanks brother! 👍
Thanks. I hope this is my next vehicle as I on have about $25k to spend. I miss my 1991chevy s10 was a great small truck. Put over 250, 000 miles on it.
Great video..what I see is a vehicle that's simple and not overly complicated which IMO is one of the reasons I want one. Simple and "reliable" is what we need to get back to. Would love to see the same walk through for the AWD because that's the one Im interested in. LOL Guess I'll be replacing the exhaust when its time :)
This is simple but reliable not so much and if you are thinking "it will last the warranty" maybe but resale will be almost none existent.
@@bobm7275 Not worried about it at all…as long as I can work on it….I’m game. Keep in mind I’ve owned and worded on VW Touareg’s so NOTHING scares me 😂
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
This was extremely informative.😊
I love these engineering walkthroughs...really provide some good insight into how well an automaker thought out the design. If what you can see was pretty well engineered, the parts you can't see probably were too.
Interesting that the exhaust/muffler was already pretty corroded but the tailpipe wasn't. I suspect Ford will eventually have to relent and switch to stainless once it becomes public knowledge that Maverick exhausts only last 2-3 years.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
It's kinda cool to see something designed and built to be inexpensive but do what it is intended to do.
The downstream one is same as my 2003 PZEV focus , it is a 2-way catalyst not a 3-way. The upper 3-way is a mani-cat. bolted straight to cylinder head. The fast light-off of the primary cat is because it is bolted DIRECTLY to the cylinder head.
Subsribed to the channel after watching this video. Impressive walkthrough.
This guy is super informative!
Glad I got the extra coverage -- looking like I will need a new muffler during the 1st 5 yrs.
Think I will add an aftermarket undercoating as well.
Cheers
thats like a $100 muffler
@@mattbrew11
Thier cost, then they charge us 800 for it.
Cheers
@@patrickmckowen2999 on a $21k vehicle??
You as a consumer can replace it at a muffler shop for $150
@@mattbrew11 Whatever happen to Aluminized exhaust systems that were used in the past on most vehicles ?
Guess that they lasted too long ..
@@bextar6365 when you’re trying to keep a vehicle at 43% of average new car sales prices, it makes a tremendous amount of sense to save $50 on a muffler
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks,I am looking at buying one of these -XLT trim and your going over it helped me a great deal!!
I put a few of these into service for my business. Mostly guys running appointments but sometimes trucking overlooked parts out to a jobsite. Holds a half pallet of solar panels just fine. Tailgate down obviously
The 4WD model does have fully independent rear suspension. It's based on the bronco sport platform
If this truck is as reliable long term as a early 2000's Honda Civic or Toyota Camry than it's an ideal economy vehicle and worth every penny of it's bargain price. However, if it's plagued with long term issues like most economy Chevy and Ford cars it's setting up people for years of frustration and lost money. I wish I had a crystal ball that could see into the future to know if these new bargain priced hybrids and electric vehicles coming from Chevy and Ford will actually be reliable long term. But looking at the level of rust on cheaper components, I'm expecting it to be a junker past 100,00 miles.
“most economy Chevy & ford vehicles”
I had very good runs on my GM & Ford economy vehicles… I was upset when I totaled my 1998 Escort at 19 years, I never had any problems with it. We have a 2001 Sunfire and it is still great! Now working a 2015 Ford Focus, a very nice car, with odd shift feel to gain good gas mileage, but never needed to bring it in for anything outside oil & tires.
If Ford & GM economy cars continue to get 200k+ miles & ~20 years, good for them!
That battery pack is going to make this economy car disposable.
It's frustrating to see them intuitively design a hybrid system like a Toyota in terms of stationary planetary gears with few moving parts but then you see the rust and it's brand new. Soon you'll see many of the people who swore they loved it to death selling theirs right before it becomes unreliable which will probably be sooner rather than later for many. That's what I believe. I see it lots these days In The auto industry because the vehicles are so complex people are worried about hanging into them long term so it turns into a big game of hot potato. the BMW dealer be cranking up every model he has to move around hoping it doesn't pop a check engine light or the trunk open button doesn't just stop working for some reason before anyone even buys it
The only problem is it's a Ford
@@DM-hw4cr That's why it will be nothing like an early 2000's Toyota or Honda.
My 2014 Ford Fusion Ecoboost has over 205k and I've never had any mechanical issues lights or defects. Best vehicle that I've ever owned.
09:53 That black bar going around the battery pack must be scavenged from their parts bin too. It has several brackets on it that are not connected to anything.
I know the hybrid has a smaller fuel tank than the ICE version. I just wonder is there enough room under the Hybrid to put that larger fuel tank in and maybe even extending the range of the hybrid even more. I do plan on getting the hybrid in the next year or so. If that would work it may be a mod I may consider after some warranties run out.
Thank you. The Maverick is in my bullseye for my next vehicle. It's nice to know how they achieved the low price, and I'm not surprised at all. To everyone saying they won't buy one now, you're missing the point. This is an entry level, 10 year, disposable vehicle. They include modern safety engineering clever use of design at an industry leading price. When they release the PHEV version, it will qualify for the 7500 credit making this a very capable and efficient truck for well under 20k. If I have to replace the muffler 3 days after the warranty expires, so be it. I've saved thousands on fuel and vehicle purchase price.
Theyll make money off maintenance. Keep it more than a year or 2, and itll be a nightmare.
If its gonna sit in the driveway except for grocery runs, Im sure youll be happy.
Please show me a new one that is well under $20K.
@@richardbuch9265 I think the idea is that a PHEV would be less than $20k after the potential tax incentive.
@@richardbuch9265 Read it again.
That was eye opening. Thank you!
If you use this relatively long wheelbase vehicle off road be very mindful of the expensive low hanging components that can be damaged; and with voids that can accumulate significant mud and dirt deposits.
Loved that Top Gun pun
I said " talk to me Goose" and you did! Thanks, great video
Great review, thank you !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video. If i summarized this with one simple takeaway, it would be "you get what you pay for" with this truck
That was also probably true for the '67 to '72 C-10 and now look like nice ones cost
Never buy one if you live in a state where salt is used on the roads...
Totally fine as long as you get one of the lower cost versions. If you live in a rust state and buy a $35k version of this…yeah…probably a smart move.
@@GHinWI Everybody has a pressure washer these days. When you wash the underbody after the roads have been wet with snow and ice you can prevent much of the rust. Then, in the spring , drive on ramps and paint where there might be a small rust problem. Use Fluid-Film. I grew up where exhaust systems were replaced every 4 years. Here in south texas the underbody of 20 year old vehicles can be pretty clean with sun baked clear coat issues common. WIndow tinting helps preserve the interior - or the inside could be cracked and ugly. In the past many didn't want to keep their cars for that long, but the average is more than 12 years and is not uncommon to drive 25 year old vehicles - we can't afford to replace cars as often as we once did. Trucks tend to be used for much longer than cars.
@@timothykeith1367 : re-wetting the underside of the car makes the rust problem worse. Dry and salty is tolerable, repeatedly wet-and-slightly-less-salty is a recipe for corrosion.
Fluid film is definitely a good idea, but my experience is that it washes off easily.
Thanks Jordan for your intreresting and detailed insights into how Ford has designed its new entry level Maverick. Bought new entry level Fords for years. It was always best to trade them in after three years. Hopefully as Ford moves to all electric they can build vehicles with lower annual upkeep costs.
This looks like a disposable vehicle, not a keeper, but something to get an unwary first time new car buyer to buy a Ford. Unless the sheet metal is a better material that the running gear, these won't survive as long as the first gen Japanese small pickups did, and they will be much more expensive to maintain or repair.
Any vehicle with a li-ion battery is not a keeper… cost to replace the battery costs a lot of $$$ & CO2 in mining, manufacturing, and transportation of the components & module.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
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Exceptional walkthrough.
Current observation of main fuse box under the hood is that there is a likely issue with exposed connections, poor mechanical connections, uncoated lightweight bus bars and corrosion.
Appreciate the information about the underneath
This guy talks really nice. I’d hire him. Subscribed, thanks for the lesson.
Great anaylsis. Cant wait to see you guys react to the new Lucid motor video! Thats some really cool pure engineering happening over there! (Even if I doubt it will make its way into affordable vehicles).
Thank you!
Same water pump BMW has used for years, built like a mini electric turbocharger😎
Can’t recall seeing anyone pull a trailer with a Ford Ranger over the last 30+ year here in SoCal. Now it’s a front wheel drive Ranger? I guess traction empty will be better…..which is how most are used🙄
Here in NC I saw a dozen of these things hauling boats, atvs, and personal watercraft all over the coast this summer. But on this side of the country people haul using SUVs, station wagons, sedans, lawn tractors anything they can put a tow hitch on.
All good to know. Thanks.
I like the exhaust-to-coolant-to-battery heating system
I don’t know much about care at all, would you recommend this truck for someone that will use it to drive to work and take their dog to the park? Not in a super cold area. Or should you just spend more on a Tacoma?
Thank you, great information.
Great video! Rust on the exhaust is quite severe already!
What do you expect......it is a Ford.
One great overview, 👍
Thank you.
My guess is that this particular vehicle has had multiple short trips (or hybrid ICE cycles) that don't let the long exhaust heat up sufficiently to remove combustion moisture.
You're correct about the combustion moisture but that would not cause external discoloration like you see here; that kind of damage is invisible until It breaks through a seam or perforates a pipe or something. That corrosion on the outside is largely cosmetic, however I'm very concerned about the quality of those component hangers. They are weak and small and will fail after a couple of seasons of road salt exposure, and this exhaust will be dragging on the ground.
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
Thank you for the video. What would you recommend a new Hybrid Maverick owner do to prevent rust?
8:30 what are those four aluminium pipes used for? Are those refrigrant and coolant lines? Does this car have a rear HVAC unit? If yes, then where is the evarporator positioned? I did not see that in the cabin.
After seeing this highly informative video, I am now convinced that I should not buy a Maverick. The amount of rust on this (allegedly "new") vehicle, and the low-quality materials that were used for some of the components make this a "no thank you" vehicle for me. Thanks Munro for this insightful tour.
I really wanted one and my wife and I drove several. Every time it was a bad experience. Passenger seat comfort is abysmal, even the more adjustable driver seat would cripple anyone taller than 5’10” (I’m 6’1”) on a long trip.
Build quality is also horrible.
A shame because over the past 15 years I’ve put on 1.4 million kms in ford’s, but ordered a Toyota for my next work vehicle.
@@hissingoose I seriously doubt that this is an actual statement of fact. I have owned my Maverick for over a year now and its seating is very comfortable. There is nothing wrong with the build quality. The materials used are not fancy but very durable.
@@hissingooseI call BS on your comment sir.
Could you compare it to a Santa Cruz in a similar video? I'm curious which seems like the higher quality pick.
I so love my Ford Maverick XL Hybrid it's the best truck I have owned
Cybertruck is even better.
@@markplott4820 If you like taking the bus while you wait, and wait, and wait for it to become reality. Jeff is driving his Maverick today.
@@KevinT3141 Imaginary things often are better than reality. Just ask all the anime PFP accounts on Twitter.
BTW would love a cyber truck
Why comment as if the Cybertruck exists? The Maverick is actually available NOW where the Cybertruck, no one knows WHEN it MIGHT exist.