Today we discuss if Nostalgia is ruining Call of Duty. We take a deep dive into MW3 and show although its a new game, it feels very old. #callofduty #mw3 #gaming
It sucks because they won't do it Halo Master Chief collection stop doing updates because they couldn't introduce microtransactions into it due to them being older games and not made for pay to play so I assume that they would do the same thing not even put money into the servers because of the fact that they can't charge us microtransactions
Fr. I played CoD from MW2 to BO3 and I can't play the new ones, they're ass. I will buy the new black ops purely for zombies I don't care about CoD multiplayer anymore
A lot of the previous modern games has not many original maps that caught on to players. Either because of bad design, or because players quit to often to learn them. People also hate them mainly because they bought the game for no reason other than to just complain. There's probably a handful of people who hate 6 Star and Emergency just because they're in MWIII, even though both are very decent maps that flow better than others.
@@BossAydanall of the S1 and S2 new maps were good. Including Greece, which is nice. But for the new maps for this season, 6 Star is good but I’m not really fond of Emergency (maybe it’s not bad and it’s a preference thing).
Not true. MW19 was new and interesting, and had well thought out systems in place which is what made it popular. Devs are just so restricted that most of the new content that comes out is objectively bad
Some responsibility needs to rest on the players. I’ve read tons of comments of people crying about losing skins and blueprints with the upcoming game so yes…”us” are to blame, at least partially. I absolutely hate the carry forward system because now we’re all stuck with the same old stuff.
both,community are crybabies that complain about everything even if it is something new or that is trying to be different,but when they get the same sh1t they start making a fuss tol
Nostalgia in healthy doses is appreciated, but when used as a crutch it can drag a game down. I love old maps, weapons, and modes returning, but it needs to be no worse than a 50/50 split of new and old(the perfect ratio for me is 70-75% New to 30-25% Old, but 50/50 can work if there's enough content as a whole).
I've been playing OG COD games over 11 years by now,they are still good,I still play them on my like 13 years old ps3,the best part about it is that some people still played some COD games on their ps3 And tbh tho,if you have played COD 2019,be grateful,because I have never ever played a COD game that have those kind of movements
Maps poorly designed for camping and sitting in one spot, VERY low ttk which benefits the campers again, stale colours so the game looks dull and boring, poor loadout system resulting in op guns. Other than that gameplay was solid and better than 2016-2023 cods but maps and ttk were horrible on that game @@willwilkinson8014
How do you not miss with those fax man i hadnt even realised that every game since mw2019 has the same field upgrades and shit im just so tired of that i miss the days playing bo1 over and over again and then bo2 had changed my life with zombies and multiplayer thank you for bringing this to light im praying to god treyarch makes a masterpiece now
I think Ghosts 2 might still keep the audience that's left with cod, Mw2 and MW3 focused more on high quality and 4k graphics only, hence killing the story that's supposed to be big, also the multiplayer, nothing,.
People always have hope for the next cod, like :- "The new cod gonna have og stuff" but it aint gonna be good , playing the old cods wont be as memorable as it was because we dont get a new experiance. We need a cod that is new , has no micro transactions, new protagonists, new mechanics,ability to work on lower end systems, new story, new maps. Just playing a cod that has the old OG stuff wont be exciting
I think the fan base has changed SO much. Many people who play COD today first started with BO3. And THEY call it the best COD. The OGs do not and a lot of them view that COD as the downfall of the franchise. To us oldies, MW3 2023 was the first breath of life to the franchise. Meanwhile the newbies were never introduced to this old way of FPS. COD is missing its audience because the audience is different in 2024 than in 2014.
@@KeepTheAngerFlowing that’s awesome! And my hot take is that MW3 2023 is a top 3 MP. They took the weapon variety of MW2 (2009), increased the weapon count from WW2, have all the classic modes, plus included war from WW2. I was longing for a COD MP that took the best from the other CODs and put it all together. MW3 2023 was the first to accomplish such a feat. Plus specialists function more as perks than OP “time” streaks.
@@KeepTheAngerFlowing One improvement they could’ve done with MP was actually making new maps for launch. But it’s great nostalgia for us old players and great experience for the new players who never played MW2 way back. Sure we can hate the campaign. But people forget that BO4 never even had a campaign and BO3 had the most underwhelming/least Black Ops like campaign. The only reason BO3 is put on such a high pedestal is because of Zombies… which is always CODs third mode.
Why? Every character in that game except for Riley was laughably bad in terms of writing. The Cliffhanger was also completely contrived. Rorke had an absurd amount of plot armor.
@@rroy9985 1. No they aren't; Brian Bloom, one of the writers for MW3, also wrote infinite warfare, which is debatably a top 5 campaign. The writers aren't bad they just didn't get enough time. 2. There's nothing to butcher with Ghosts, it already sucks
Finally someone who addresses this. Love your content man. Someone who is a real call of duty fan and isn’t afraid to tell the truth about what is going on with this franchise and will bring awareness to this. 99% of these cod content creators here on the platform will stay silent on the matter in fear of losing their sponsorship.
I think a lot of people are tired of MWIII because we already had a game very similar the year prior. I never even bought or played MWIII, and don’t plan to. I feel like nostalgia is the selling point for entertainment in general, especially over the last few years. It’s sort of gotten annoying. Having nostalgic moments can be nice at times, but there does get to a point where the nostalgia wears off.
To answer your questions, as someone that has MWII and MWIII - I would still play MWII if I wanted to cos the ttk is different. It’s a fast ttk, which works better. And in MWIII, I don’t use any of the MWII guns for my loadouts cos I didn’t buy a new game just to use the guns from the old one. I also frequently back out of the lobby if an MWII map comes up, cos when I want to play those maps, I can hop back onto MWII. Don’t need that in MWIII. Although recently they put Shipmas to replace the night Shipment so it’s not the same anymore fortunately.
Honestly I think it’s all about fans of the game. Fanbase are always worried and mad about new game. Back in the day we were glad that game even release. Nostalgia must be in the newer games, because we all know that we are above golden era and we need a reminder
Nostalgia HAS been killing cod every year a new cod releases. I’ll be honest I like more of a futuristic gameplay such as bo3, boot on ground is good but the time periods on when they are set are boring as most of them have been explored before.
MWIII stole a map from BO3. Emergency on MWIII is literally the middle part of the map of Cryo on BO3, they’ve changed some entrances here and there to make the map flow better but it’s almost exactly the same
To be fair there starting to pick up on the new maps theres a 16 2009 maps and the theres the 13 new maps (Including Checkpoint and grime that come out later on this month)
Really interesting video. I think you nailed it. My biggest gripe with the game, and this coming from a guy who’s been playing COD since before MW , is it’s transformation into a more cartoonish / parody of itself. The game was miles ahead of its time. Personally I feel like the game wants to be something other than COD.
I’ve had some fun with mw3 because I never played mw2 or warzone 1 so all the old maps are new to me partially because I was 5 when the og mw2 was released
But player retention is better than compared to last year so actually COD is doing better than before. Tbh, the OG MW2 maps are keeping me on MP along with the new maps which for the most part are ok. I'm not getting sick of them like last year's, where the maps just got dull and the movement was flat as a pancake. MWIII is actually my favourite COD since Cold War which was also great, before that BO3...
Mw2019 is the one that got me back into cod after some years off. None of the cods since then have managed to capture that same feeling mw2019 gave me. Battle passes/season progression system and lobby disbands really soured the experience for me. They really need do something big because if they don't it'll fade into the background much like halo has.
This is the first cod since BO4 that I’ve played this hard for this long, usually I play for about 2 weeks and give up so it’s going well for me so far, constant events and so much stuff fixed from last years mess
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019) was the first COD game I got. I really liked it, and still to this day I play it. It was really good. When I saw MWII, I almost pre-ordered it. I'm glad I didn't. When I saw MWIII, I almost pre-ordered it. I'm ALSO glad I didn't. Nothing has lived up to what I saw in MW2019, and it really sucks. Here's to hoping Gulf War is exactly what we want. Great video as always, man!
This video has a lot of very good points I have been telling people this for years example my buddy wanted me to buy MW3 but I refused because it was basically the same game but I have also noticed how much backlash they get when they do try to do something new like ghosts and I actually personally like that game and I think they should make a second one all new maps and weapons continue the storyline or something or just make a whole new Call of Duty world fresh news story mode fresh new characters fresh new guns
What annoys me the most is they will rehash these maps and guns over and over again but refuse to make another complete remaster of a game. MW remastered in 2016/17 was the only CoD in since BO2 that kept me playing the whole year, unbalanced quirks and all. Just give me that again and I'll be happy, nostalgia doesn't have to be complicated or limit what new games have to offer.
I heavily agree but I feel like the vocal cod community also only wants old stuff without innovations at the same time... Like mw19's mini map and compass system was super innovative but you'll have players that did not put in any time to understand the new system so they say "iT wAs cHaNgE fOr tHe sAkE oF cHanGe..." Same with all of mw19's remake maps with new layouts... they're clever but the people that hate learning new things said "oH wE gOt MoRe sAfE SpAcEs"
Nostalgia is nice if you mix it in with a lot of new content as well. Since CW, they have taken nostalgia to the extreme tho. Remaster and content we’ve recently seen is getting added more to the game then new content. I loved the remastered maps in MWIII, MW19 and CW. Seeing old weapons come back is cool too but they mess them up by not giving them the original sound
Skill based matching to keep people paying for those microtransactions is the problem. And it would kill the profit margins to revert to the old style, so we might as well forget COD.
Remade maps are nothing without the gameplay, movement, weapons, perks, spawns, killstreaks etc. We really just need remastered games, like when they did MWR
Nostalgia isn't killing COD, its the only thing keeping it alive. They're spending too much time recreating the wrong things though, instead of maps its the systems and gameplay they should be going back to otherwise at its core it won't be enjoyable
People always praise the classic COD games, but hardly anyone actually takes the time to download and play them again. Meanwhile, I'm over here patiently waiting for hours just to find a lobby and play with someone.
See this video right here highlights the exact issue with modern cod games, never realized what the issue was until I watched this video now it’s all clear I mean I love black ops 1 and that was entirely its own thing a whole new experience that many of us latched onto, the more I think about it I really do like the new stuff from every cod more than the nostalgic, but at the same time I love seeing remade maps vanguard would have been a much better game in my eyes if they had a few more maps from world at war… it’s a hairy topic for sure
I dont need to remember old cods. I have ps3 and black op1, black ops 2 and ghost. I love play black ops 1, Mac10, galil,ak47, olympia,M60( the pig), fn Fal,M16. Good zombies maps:Kino der toten, five,ascension
I honestly love it for what it is. I love grow house. But there is a massive amount I wish I could do. Like… why don’t they have any offline special opps?? I miss that shit
There is nothing to work toward in cod nowadays. It use to be prestige, now it means nothing. Camo grinds can be cool but the fact that you have to use your shotgun to level 20 to unlock the last sniper makes it so useless. Also the fact that there are a thousand camos that no one will care about getting gold anymore. It’s just playing the same game and same maps over and over without any objective. No one cares to even win a MP match, as long as they have the most kills.
We new maps, but I did enjoy crash from COD 2019. To be honest, COD games are the only games I play. Nothing out there floats my boat despite the SSBM& the cheaters.
I keep wondering if I’m going to be playing COD all my life and I’m only 31. Are we going to be grinding Mastery Camos for the next 30 years? Will things ever really change? It’s a weird but exciting thought. No matter what happens in my life or how old I get, I’m still going to game.
In my opinion yes. All I hear is complaints about the game and how it’s not like the good old days. If you don’t like it then cool, don’t cry a River oml.
I stopped playing back in mid 2023, because I was tired of the hackers/modders. Then officially stopped playing in November because Zombies was getting boring...
The problem is greed and content. The Zombies was a genuinely fun mode and had a chance to be something great, but they've barely added a thing to it, so now its gone stale. The multiplayer is great, but it's just completely remake with any originals being bad. And you all know about the pvp
my favorite part about MW3 are the old maps. good maps are good maps. it can get a bit stale but it doesn’t ruin a game. look at Counter Strike. The game has no identity anymore. You can’t just play pubs with friends and randomly get into a good lobby and hop no one leaves to get a nuke. or run into some competition and start trash talking in between games to try and win. then when i see niki manaj T baggin me it doesn’t really feel like COD in terms of the environment either. There’s hardly anything that resembles the OG CODs other than the fundamental mechanics, which they finally revived after the jet pack era
I couldn't agree more. For example, I hate how Treyarch is still releasing black ops games, even though i love black ops as a series. We need innovation desperately in the gaming industry and especially in call of duty.
I also dont know how people thought cold war's campaign was anything more than nostalgia bait garbage. You literally played as a gender fluid robot with no personality or voice lines in that game. 'oh it has multiple endings and player choice' wowwww. How about just give us an original and emotional story with in depth characters.
Remastering maps for new games is cool....to an extent. Once they do it several years in a row (shipment), it gets repetitive, boring, bland, etc. Remember how awesome warzone was during its first few months? EVERYBODY was playing it. It was the first time COD actually branched out into the battle royale trend in its own way. It was new. It was different. Nowadays, they're pretty much relying on nostalgia and bundles to keep their new games relevant. And they're struggling. MW3 2023 suffered from this fate.
Resident Evil was like this once, but they changed and innovate things. I think Activision just do what Capcom did, and it certainly have some parallels. Like RE4 (Original) is MW2019 loved by the community when it first released, RE5 is MWII good but can't keep up with the last one, then RE6 is MWIII, hated and just copy and paste of the last one. I hope Activision listen to it's playerbase instead of ignoring them.
To be fair, Fortnite's OG season was intended over 2 years ago to implement old and new weapons and mechanics while maintaining its identity, but it ended badly when the next chapter entered ruining what made Fortnite. Seems like COD has been falling off because instead of remastering their games, they preferred to shift them to remake and make them live service while looking so identical to their recent games. This is the mark that AAA games are no longer great than they used to, and older games as well as indie games are thriving.
For me mw19 wasn’t a rerun it was a new beginning for me, I never got into pubs back when cod 4- mw3 on 360 was new. Heck I didn’t even have an Xbox or internet! Same with Cold War, all those maps (most of them atleast) were new ish to me. Same with vanguard (but I skipped it cus it was to trash to be worth it back at the start)
I think there are now many new fps games which are F2P games....And now cod just releases a same reskin MP game every year which is at a full price $70.
I think Activision needs to do is bring us a proper set of characters instead of operators, a good story and round based zombies (either tho am a die hard cold war fan), multiplayer needs more variety and more towards original maps then remakes, campaigns needs to learn from there previous game and how to write a story again.
survival mode from OG MW3 should return (but improved this time, unlike mw2019 one) A return of Extinction would be sick too I'm sick and tired of Zombies, and the devs clearly ran out of ideas for that mode
Cod tried to be innovative when they had the exoskeletons and wall running. The community largely hated it and wanted it to go back to boots on the ground...COD has been nostalgic baiting us ever since
its the gameplay and features that make the maps ass imo. most ppl dont have a problem w CoD bringing back maps from the glory days. it’s how u bring them back.
@@AhmeddR6Maybe multiplayer is good,and i say maybe because i haven't played it but i see it's kind of more alive than other COD's,but surely what ruins the experience and scares people away from the game is SBMM and the bundles (like that 80$ glove) because it gives a horrible first impression of the game
@@rebekk8 yeah sbmm is also a major factor in how a mp generally is. It is a sweatfest every other match and you gotta sweat your balls off just to have a 2kd, also maps are poorly designed for campers and colours are bland af. I played it for a week then sold it lol
Its not the nostalgia that kills the game. Its the devs that try to get us used to unfinished broken shit. Of course CoD can try new stuff like they did with Advanced warfare. The Problem is, that if things dont work you have to get back to origin. But for CoD and all other games(Pokémon, battlefield etc) they seem to have unlearned what once was the good reciepe for a good game
Who knows where this road for call of duty will go? There’s only a certain amount of time until the road becomes the end. And once that happens… it’s all over until you know it.
I think it’s due to the fact that the gameplay has been the same since MW19 and the gameplay is not as friendly as it’s older titles similar to the Exo times though that was less fast, there’s also the campaign being trash and the fact that the game was rumored to be DLC which I and I bet many others still believe. Activision most likely hopes now that the original IP will carry MWIII same goes for the gameplay from MW19 which the gameplay definitely carried it due to the players. Activision has their gold and they don’t want to give it up for making something new and that time they took out slide canceling that time the community went into a blind rage so that’s another factor too.
Funny how the video is about changing the formula and 80% of the comments just say "remake this, remake that" seems like a majority has definitely missed the actual point he tried to make imo
I feel like players are blaming devs for “forcing them” to pay for bundles. I also just read a comment saying, “I hate having to move onto a different game every year.”
yeah it just seems some people just like living off in the past don’t get me wrong i loved the previous games from 10-15 years ago but i barely play the MW2 maps in MWIII and most people like the small maps. The world has moved on from 2012 and the people making call of duty needs to realise that
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Microsoft needs to make that Halo MCC collection for COD4-BO2 and call it “Call of Duty: The Golden Age Collection” with full cross platform
This is such a good idea. I’ve never even thought of that. And it’s such a good idea that it’ll never happen despite it being like such an easy win.
They could even slowly roll out the games as free updates to maximize player count for each game.
Or Call of Duty Classic Collection.
No they don’t they need to focus their attention on making the new games better.
It sucks because they won't do it Halo Master Chief collection stop doing updates because they couldn't introduce microtransactions into it due to them being older games and not made for pay to play so I assume that they would do the same thing not even put money into the servers because of the fact that they can't charge us microtransactions
I think it's Activision struggling to serve the og players and new players who really can't relate to the og players
True
Fr. I played CoD from MW2 to BO3 and I can't play the new ones, they're ass. I will buy the new black ops purely for zombies I don't care about CoD multiplayer anymore
good point
black ops mp's is good@@nomarxistspls90
They dont care about og players. They want new players who are accustomed with using their parents credit cards to buy bundles
If they put new original content people will still hate on it
A lot of the previous modern games has not many original maps that caught on to players.
Either because of bad design, or because players quit to often to learn them. People also hate them
mainly because they bought the game for no reason other than to just complain. There's probably a handful of people who hate
6 Star and Emergency just because they're in MWIII, even though both are very decent maps that flow better than others.
Even back in the day ppl was hating
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@@BossAydanall of the S1 and S2 new maps were good. Including Greece, which is nice. But for the new maps for this season, 6 Star is good but I’m not really fond of Emergency (maybe it’s not bad and it’s a preference thing).
Not true. MW19 was new and interesting, and had well thought out systems in place which is what made it popular. Devs are just so restricted that most of the new content that comes out is objectively bad
One thing they should bring back is the OG MW3 Survival Mode.
Yes.
A survival mode was added to MW19
@@bonkers2011 It just didn't feel the same though, it was a soul less survival.
@@IJE15 MW3 was sorta similar though if you noticed many aspects copied and pasted from MW2 including reusing cut scenes in the campaign
@@bonkers2011 Yeah, but it was fine since it was following a story line. Like the first mission on MW3.
They don’t want to make new maps but remaster old ones which is one of the problems. They’d rather spend time making bundles
Call of Duty is starting to resemble Fortnite. It's beginning to feel like a more realistic take on Fortnite, perhaps even a spinoff.
"So after all...
The problem is with us ...
Not the devs 😢"
Some responsibility needs to rest on the players. I’ve read tons of comments of people crying about losing skins and blueprints with the upcoming game so yes…”us” are to blame, at least partially. I absolutely hate the carry forward system because now we’re all stuck with the same old stuff.
half and half
The franchise still has a lot of bootlickers unfortunately
both,community are crybabies that complain about everything even if it is something new or that is trying to be different,but when they get the same sh1t they start making a fuss tol
@@bigjtat2you mean the carry forward mw2 and mw3? You do know mw3 is a$70 DLC for mw2, they just stole dmz for zombies and marketed as a new game.
Nostalgia in healthy doses is appreciated, but when used as a crutch it can drag a game down.
I love old maps, weapons, and modes returning, but it needs to be no worse than a 50/50 split of new and old(the perfect ratio for me is 70-75% New to 30-25% Old, but 50/50 can work if there's enough content as a whole).
One thing I want from Ghosts 2 is Simon Riley as a playable character.
I've been playing OG COD games over 11 years by now,they are still good,I still play them on my like 13 years old ps3,the best part about it is that some people still played some COD games on their ps3
And tbh tho,if you have played COD 2019,be grateful,because I have never ever played a COD game that have those kind of movements
Mw19 sucks
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@@anisbennabi3709in what ways it sucks bro
Maps poorly designed for camping and sitting in one spot, VERY low ttk which benefits the campers again, stale colours so the game looks dull and boring, poor loadout system resulting in op guns. Other than that gameplay was solid and better than 2016-2023 cods but maps and ttk were horrible on that game @@willwilkinson8014
@@anisbennabi3709 you suck not the game
I haven’t subscribed to anyone in a Long time. Very well made and put together
Welcome in brother!
Lmao cornball
I think that people just move on to a different everytime and it just like people say that it's getting old and it's not getting old.
I made a lot of new memories playing DMZ. That excitment of getting on that last exfil with the boys was awesome. I hope they bring it back😢
unless they find a blatant way to p2w it, or introduce more eomm, they wont bother because its about the cha ching baby
How do you not miss with those fax man i hadnt even realised that every game since mw2019 has the same field upgrades and shit im just so tired of that i miss the days playing bo1 over and over again and then bo2 had changed my life with zombies and multiplayer thank you for bringing this to light im praying to god treyarch makes a masterpiece now
Only treyarch can save this franchise now, iw and sledge sucks dogshit
I think Ghosts 2 might still keep the audience that's left with cod, Mw2 and MW3 focused more on high quality and 4k graphics only, hence killing the story that's supposed to be big, also the multiplayer, nothing,.
Bro very good video, nice points you mentioned keep it up dawg 🔥
got you bro!
@@tdawgsmitty hey what happened to ur Uncut Chanel
People always have hope for the next cod, like :- "The new cod gonna have og stuff" but it aint gonna be good , playing the old cods wont be as memorable as it was because we dont get a new experiance. We need a cod that is new , has no micro transactions, new protagonists, new mechanics,ability to work on lower end systems, new story, new maps.
Just playing a cod that has the old OG stuff wont be exciting
The worst thing about Call Of Duty is the people that play it.
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Fr. If ppl would stop buying the shitty cods they release every year, they'd actually learn and make improvements
I think the fan base has changed SO much. Many people who play COD today first started with BO3. And THEY call it the best COD. The OGs do not and a lot of them view that COD as the downfall of the franchise.
To us oldies, MW3 2023 was the first breath of life to the franchise. Meanwhile the newbies were never introduced to this old way of FPS. COD is missing its audience because the audience is different in 2024 than in 2014.
I'm the new audience and I love MWIII, I understand the hate but I'm having fun.
@@KeepTheAngerFlowing that’s awesome! And my hot take is that MW3 2023 is a top 3 MP. They took the weapon variety of MW2 (2009), increased the weapon count from WW2, have all the classic modes, plus included war from WW2. I was longing for a COD MP that took the best from the other CODs and put it all together. MW3 2023 was the first to accomplish such a feat. Plus specialists function more as perks than OP “time” streaks.
@@Selling-McCarthyism 100% agree, my only problem is some of the playerbase but thats not the games fault.
@@KeepTheAngerFlowing One improvement they could’ve done with MP was actually making new maps for launch. But it’s great nostalgia for us old players and great experience for the new players who never played MW2 way back.
Sure we can hate the campaign. But people forget that BO4 never even had a campaign and BO3 had the most underwhelming/least Black Ops like campaign. The only reason BO3 is put on such a high pedestal is because of Zombies… which is always CODs third mode.
🐐 goat I love your videos. They are so very well put together. Keep doing your thing man. It’s great
Thanks! Will do!
I’d like a COD Ghosts 2. Rorke transforming Logan sounds crazy. I’m shocked it’s still a cliffhanger.
Same
They wouldn't be able to pull off a good sequal now days
Why? Every character in that game except for Riley was laughably bad in terms of writing. The Cliffhanger was also completely contrived. Rorke had an absurd amount of plot armor.
these writers are garbage, dont hope for it to come back they would butcher it, let it die in peace
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1. No they aren't; Brian Bloom, one of the writers for MW3, also wrote infinite warfare, which is debatably a top 5 campaign. The writers aren't bad they just didn't get enough time.
2. There's nothing to butcher with Ghosts, it already sucks
Finally someone who addresses this. Love your content man. Someone who is a real call of duty fan and isn’t afraid to tell the truth about what is going on with this franchise and will bring awareness to this. 99% of these cod content creators here on the platform will stay silent on the matter in fear of losing their sponsorship.
2:12 naw shipment is literally the best map. Small basic chaotic. Idgaf if it’s returning, it’s a GOOD MAP, and I’m an Og from 07
I think a lot of people are tired of MWIII because we already had a game very similar the year prior. I never even bought or played MWIII, and don’t plan to.
I feel like nostalgia is the selling point for entertainment in general, especially over the last few years. It’s sort of gotten annoying. Having nostalgic moments can be nice at times, but there does get to a point where the nostalgia wears off.
To answer your questions, as someone that has MWII and MWIII - I would still play MWII if I wanted to cos the ttk is different. It’s a fast ttk, which works better. And in MWIII, I don’t use any of the MWII guns for my loadouts cos I didn’t buy a new game just to use the guns from the old one. I also frequently back out of the lobby if an MWII map comes up, cos when I want to play those maps, I can hop back onto MWII. Don’t need that in MWIII.
Although recently they put Shipmas to replace the night Shipment so it’s not the same anymore fortunately.
Why Activision always fail on their games is because they make their games early and do not take their time making a new game
Awesome video dude. Well done !
Simple question
No its not killing cod its bringing back clsssic days again with a mix of modernized gameplay
Love your content
Honestly I think it’s all about fans of the game. Fanbase are always worried and mad about new game. Back in the day we were glad that game even release. Nostalgia must be in the newer games, because we all know that we are above golden era and we need a reminder
Solid strong vid. Great content
Nostalgia HAS been killing cod every year a new cod releases. I’ll be honest I like more of a futuristic gameplay such as bo3, boot on ground is good but the time periods on when they are set are boring as most of them have been explored before.
MWIII stole a map from BO3. Emergency on MWIII is literally the middle part of the map of Cryo on BO3, they’ve changed some entrances here and there to make the map flow better but it’s almost exactly the same
To be fair there starting to pick up on the new maps theres a 16 2009 maps and the theres the 13 new maps (Including Checkpoint and grime that come out later on this month)
It’s corporate greed
No this time it's on the players
@@kayzelwayne3238 who fleeces the players? daddy kotick, he needs his plane ticket for epstein island or no bueno
@@rroy9985 don't know what you talking about because kotick isn't in charge anymore
@@kayzelwayne3238 this greedy practice which is now common practice is by that goomba
Really interesting video. I think you nailed it. My biggest gripe with the game, and this coming from a guy who’s been playing COD since before MW , is it’s transformation into a more cartoonish / parody of itself.
The game was miles ahead of its time. Personally I feel like the game wants to be something other than COD.
I’ve had some fun with mw3 because I never played mw2 or warzone 1 so all the old maps are new to me partially because I was 5 when the og mw2 was released
But player retention is better than compared to last year so actually COD is doing better than before. Tbh, the OG MW2 maps are keeping me on MP along with the new maps which for the most part are ok. I'm not getting sick of them like last year's, where the maps just got dull and the movement was flat as a pancake. MWIII is actually my favourite COD since Cold War which was also great, before that BO3...
Mw2019 is the one that got me back into cod after some years off. None of the cods since then have managed to capture that same feeling mw2019 gave me. Battle passes/season progression system and lobby disbands really soured the experience for me. They really need do something big because if they don't it'll fade into the background much like halo has.
This is the first cod since BO4 that I’ve played this hard for this long, usually I play for about 2 weeks and give up so it’s going well for me so far, constant events and so much stuff fixed from last years mess
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019) was the first COD game I got. I really liked it, and still to this day I play it. It was really good. When I saw MWII, I almost pre-ordered it. I'm glad I didn't. When I saw MWIII, I almost pre-ordered it. I'm ALSO glad I didn't. Nothing has lived up to what I saw in MW2019, and it really sucks. Here's to hoping Gulf War is exactly what we want. Great video as always, man!
I play MW2019 too
Mw19 sucks 💀 I don't know what u all like in it tbh
Big trash maps
Campers in every corner
Time to kill is just ridiculous if I see u first u die
And a lot of cons
@@anisbennabi3709 you never played ghost
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This video has a lot of very good points I have been telling people this for years example my buddy wanted me to buy MW3 but I refused because it was basically the same game but I have also noticed how much backlash they get when they do try to do something new like ghosts and I actually personally like that game and I think they should make a second one all new maps and weapons continue the storyline or something or just make a whole new Call of Duty world fresh news story mode fresh new characters fresh new guns
What annoys me the most is they will rehash these maps and guns over and over again but refuse to make another complete remaster of a game. MW remastered in 2016/17 was the only CoD in since BO2 that kept me playing the whole year, unbalanced quirks and all. Just give me that again and I'll be happy, nostalgia doesn't have to be complicated or limit what new games have to offer.
I heavily agree but I feel like the vocal cod community also only wants old stuff without innovations at the same time... Like mw19's mini map and compass system was super innovative but you'll have players that did not put in any time to understand the new system so they say "iT wAs cHaNgE fOr tHe sAkE oF cHanGe..." Same with all of mw19's remake maps with new layouts... they're clever but the people that hate learning new things said "oH wE gOt MoRe sAfE SpAcEs"
Nostalgia is nice if you mix it in with a lot of new content as well. Since CW, they have taken nostalgia to the extreme tho. Remaster and content we’ve recently seen is getting added more to the game then new content.
I loved the remastered maps in MWIII, MW19 and CW. Seeing old weapons come back is cool too but they mess them up by not giving them the original sound
Me personally I really enjoy mw3 multiplayer
It was the last 'good' cod
Skill based matching to keep people paying for those microtransactions is the problem. And it would kill the profit margins to revert to the old style, so we might as well forget COD.
Good topic!
Remade maps are nothing without the gameplay, movement, weapons, perks, spawns, killstreaks etc.
We really just need remastered games, like when they did MWR
Nostalgia isn't killing COD, its the only thing keeping it alive. They're spending too much time recreating the wrong things though, instead of maps its the systems and gameplay they should be going back to otherwise at its core it won't be enjoyable
People always praise the classic COD games, but hardly anyone actually takes the time to download and play them again. Meanwhile, I'm over here patiently waiting for hours just to find a lobby and play with someone.
They also apparently forgot what zombies is since now we just have dmz zombies
This is why I still play the old ones. They’re still amazing on PS3.
See this video right here highlights the exact issue with modern cod games, never realized what the issue was until I watched this video now it’s all clear I mean I love black ops 1 and that was entirely its own thing a whole new experience that many of us latched onto, the more I think about it I really do like the new stuff from every cod more than the nostalgic, but at the same time I love seeing remade maps vanguard would have been a much better game in my eyes if they had a few more maps from world at war… it’s a hairy topic for sure
I dont need to remember old cods.
I have ps3 and black op1, black ops 2 and ghost.
I love play black ops 1,
Mac10, galil,ak47, olympia,M60( the pig), fn Fal,M16.
Good zombies maps:Kino der toten, five,ascension
I honestly love it for what it is. I love grow house. But there is a massive amount I wish I could do. Like… why don’t they have any offline special opps?? I miss that shit
There is nothing to work toward in cod nowadays. It use to be prestige, now it means nothing. Camo grinds can be cool but the fact that you have to use your shotgun to level 20 to unlock the last sniper makes it so useless. Also the fact that there are a thousand camos that no one will care about getting gold anymore. It’s just playing the same game and same maps over and over without any objective. No one cares to even win a MP match, as long as they have the most kills.
We new maps, but I did enjoy crash from COD 2019. To be honest, COD games are the only games I play. Nothing out there floats my boat despite the SSBM& the cheaters.
They need to do 2 year cycles again
I keep wondering if I’m going to be playing COD all my life and I’m only 31. Are we going to be grinding Mastery Camos for the next 30 years? Will things ever really change? It’s a weird but exciting thought. No matter what happens in my life or how old I get, I’m still going to game.
In my opinion yes. All I hear is complaints about the game and how it’s not like the good old days. If you don’t like it then cool, don’t cry a River oml.
No the manipulated matchmaking is killing cod.
I stopped playing back in mid 2023, because I was tired of the hackers/modders. Then officially stopped playing in November because Zombies was getting boring...
Let's go another t dawg vid
got you!
The problem is greed and content. The Zombies was a genuinely fun mode and had a chance to be something great, but they've barely added a thing to it, so now its gone stale. The multiplayer is great, but it's just completely remake with any originals being bad. And you all know about the pvp
so basicly we don't really miss the old CoDs, we miss the feeling we had of a fresh, new game with new mechanics and new styles.
i want a totally new game with new maps and new guns and with mw 2019's fluid movement that would hit the spot
my favorite part about MW3 are the old maps.
good maps are good maps. it can get a bit stale but it doesn’t ruin a game. look at Counter Strike.
The game has no identity anymore. You can’t just play pubs with friends and randomly get into a good lobby and hop no one leaves to get a nuke.
or run into some competition and start trash talking in between games to try and win.
then when i see niki manaj T baggin me it doesn’t really feel like COD in terms of the environment either.
There’s hardly anything that resembles the OG CODs other than the fundamental mechanics, which they finally revived after the jet pack era
I couldn't agree more. For example, I hate how Treyarch is still releasing black ops games, even though i love black ops as a series. We need innovation desperately in the gaming industry and especially in call of duty.
I also dont know how people thought cold war's campaign was anything more than nostalgia bait garbage. You literally played as a gender fluid robot with no personality or voice lines in that game. 'oh it has multiple endings and player choice' wowwww. How about just give us an original and emotional story with in depth characters.
Remastering maps for new games is cool....to an extent. Once they do it several years in a row (shipment), it gets repetitive, boring, bland, etc. Remember how awesome warzone was during its first few months? EVERYBODY was playing it. It was the first time COD actually branched out into the battle royale trend in its own way. It was new. It was different.
Nowadays, they're pretty much relying on nostalgia and bundles to keep their new games relevant. And they're struggling. MW3 2023 suffered from this fate.
Resident Evil was like this once, but they changed and innovate things. I think Activision just do what Capcom did, and it certainly have some parallels. Like RE4 (Original) is MW2019 loved by the community when it first released, RE5 is MWII good but can't keep up with the last one, then RE6 is MWIII, hated and just copy and paste of the last one. I hope Activision listen to it's playerbase instead of ignoring them.
I hope that mw4 that may be going to release after the bo2 remake is very similar to ghosts
To be fair, Fortnite's OG season was intended over 2 years ago to implement old and new weapons and mechanics while maintaining its identity, but it ended badly when the next chapter entered ruining what made Fortnite.
Seems like COD has been falling off because instead of remastering their games, they preferred to shift them to remake and make them live service while looking so identical to their recent games.
This is the mark that AAA games are no longer great than they used to, and older games as well as indie games are thriving.
For me mw19 wasn’t a rerun it was a new beginning for me, I never got into pubs back when cod 4- mw3 on 360 was new. Heck I didn’t even have an Xbox or internet! Same with Cold War, all those maps (most of them atleast) were new ish to me. Same with vanguard (but I skipped it cus it was to trash to be worth it back at the start)
Our og days are gone 😢😢
I think there are now many new fps games which are F2P games....And now cod just releases a same reskin MP game every year which is at a full price $70.
Banger Video 💥
I think Activision needs to do is bring us a proper set of characters instead of operators, a good story and round based zombies (either tho am a die hard cold war fan), multiplayer needs more variety and more towards original maps then remakes, campaigns needs to learn from there previous game and how to write a story again.
survival mode from OG MW3 should return (but improved this time, unlike mw2019 one)
A return of Extinction would be sick too
I'm sick and tired of Zombies, and the devs clearly ran out of ideas for that mode
The problem was the hacks the spam report to shadow banned to banned
Literally, you spitting facts
MW3 Already killed by Warzone Since Rebirth
Packet Burst is also killing COD. Shit is ridiculous.
It’s the crappy servers on CODs end. They need a hertz upgrade
Tdawg pls reply i love ur vids
Cod tried to be innovative when they had the exoskeletons and wall running. The community largely hated it and wanted it to go back to boots on the ground...COD has been nostalgic baiting us ever since
its the gameplay and features that make the maps ass imo.
most ppl dont have a problem w CoD bringing back maps from the glory days.
it’s how u bring them back.
To be fair OG Fortnite actually saved their game peaking a 5 million players once 😅
way more than prime Fortnite
Nostalgia is the reason call of duty is even alive right now
Youre killing call of duty😢
how lol
@@tdawgsmitty by making people believe that mw3 is bad
@@arhngaming9691it is bad. Game has nothing new and fun to offer, it feels like mw19 but worse somehow
@@AhmeddR6Maybe multiplayer is good,and i say maybe because i haven't played it but i see it's kind of more alive than other COD's,but surely what ruins the experience and scares people away from the game is SBMM and the bundles (like that 80$ glove) because it gives a horrible first impression of the game
@@rebekk8 yeah sbmm is also a major factor in how a mp generally is. It is a sweatfest every other match and you gotta sweat your balls off just to have a 2kd, also maps are poorly designed for campers and colours are bland af. I played it for a week then sold it lol
Its not the nostalgia that kills the game. Its the devs that try to get us used to unfinished broken shit. Of course CoD can try new stuff like they did with Advanced warfare. The Problem is, that if things dont work you have to get back to origin. But for CoD and all other games(Pokémon, battlefield etc) they seem to have unlearned what once was the good reciepe for a good game
Who knows where this road for call of duty will go? There’s only a certain amount of time until the road becomes the end. And once that happens… it’s all over until you know it.
This is what happens when you make games to keep shareholders happy and not the player base
I think it’s due to the fact that the gameplay has been the same since MW19 and the gameplay is not as friendly as it’s older titles similar to the Exo times though that was less fast, there’s also the campaign being trash and the fact that the game was rumored to be DLC which I and I bet many others still believe. Activision most likely hopes now that the original IP will carry MWIII same goes for the gameplay from MW19 which the gameplay definitely carried it due to the players.
Activision has their gold and they don’t want to give it up for making something new and that time they took out slide canceling that time the community went into a blind rage so that’s another factor too.
Funny how the video is about changing the formula and 80% of the comments just say "remake this, remake that" seems like a majority has definitely missed the actual point he tried to make imo
I’m so sick this Warzone area
I feel like players are blaming devs for “forcing them” to pay for bundles. I also just read a comment saying, “I hate having to move onto a different game every year.”
Remove battle pass, remove bundles, add back paid map packs and it’s playable then
Helldivers 2 is the GOAT and the first one is unbelievably good
Cold War was good… I miss Treyarch
Me too. Hopefully they come back this year..
yeah it just seems some people just like living off in the past don’t get me wrong i loved the previous games from 10-15 years ago but i barely play the MW2 maps in MWIII and most people like the small maps. The world has moved on from 2012 and the people making call of duty needs to realise that