The Most Free | One Piece Chapter 1118
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The worst part of One Piece being a Shonen Battle manga is that there are so many fans that only care about the action and will take moments like these at face value. Rather than thinking "what does this mean for the story?" they think "what does this mean for power-scaling?"
Both can be true, I understand the themes of boonie and gear 5 but what's stop Bonnie using her distorted future on other's ex can she give anyone a Nika like future? Also it's called battle manga for a reason
@@BlueCheeseLucci one piece has never just been a battle manga one of few that focuses on world building and themes.
@BlueCheeseLucci But that is literally not how her powers work. She can't just give random people other powers. Distorted future is an expression of a possible future she can see for herself, which is why her being a kid is so helpful in it's use. Plus she's only been shown to be able to do it for a limited amount of time. She'll get one or two attacks off before she has to revert.
@@BlueCheeseLucci Because Nika is what her vision of being Free is; Her powers are limited by her wonder as a child.
Distorted Future is a play on how children can dream up countless futures for themselves; Think, a child saying they'll be an astronaut or movie star.
So it's limited to her vision of her future; Meaning she will not be thinking that she can be like Kizaru or something. Specially since she doesn't like them
The more annoying part is that this doesn't mean ANYTHING for powerscaling because Bonney using this ability doesn't make her as strong as Luffy. I don't think people are even bothered by this because of powerscaling tbh I think it's just because they hate Gear 5. Complaints come up whenever something happens with this form. I think people are just using the Bonney thing as an excuse to hate on Gear 5.
"Everyone has the same power to change the future" - Bege during Whole Cake Island
Bonney spends most of her childhood locked inside, literally unable to see the sun.
And now she becomes the sun god.
Copy cat Nika cheerleader gloried clone is lazy…😕
@@CrimsonKaiserx8lol how can this be lazy when it was set up since the arc started ?????
I feel like people are forgetting the fact that the few times she's used "distorted future", it's been for one singular move. I expect she'll revert back to normal once they do a big combined attack and push saint Marcus back so he can't keep following the ship. I think its less about her having Nika's abilities, and more about showing through the transformation that she actually feels like she's finally "free".
Just going to mention this, but she did use Distorted Future to change into a muscular form akin to Kuma or even Luffy when in gear 5 when he gives himself muscles. She transformed, chased and used it for a couple of strikes against Vegapunk. So it might be possible she can stay more time on a Distorted Future.
Fully agreed for a couple reasons: as you said, because that's consistently how her power's been shown. Also because their goal is literally just to beat him back to cover their escape.
Overall it feels like a lot of people are kinda overreacting to Bonney's form here. It's cool and big for her as a buff and thematically. But as shown so far, it isn't THAT game-changing in the grand scheme of things and certainly doesn't break the power system.
There is no "Fact" in what you typed. Like any fruit the limits of the abilities is based off of stamina. She'll just be really hungry after using it, like all her other moves. It's why she's called The Glutton, because she's ALWAYS eating to keep her stamina up to maintain her adult form.
@@kyeda I mean...the first bit is literally a fact though. Thus far, that's how it's been used. They didn't say it could never change, just that that's been the deal so far. Everything after was qualified by "I expect" and "I think", which is fair.
Like 2 chapters ago we saw that she couldn't hold the giant future for very long. Very confused by people mad at this even from a power scaling point
From “I’ll do reviews on break weeks” to “I’m traveling but need to make a review” lol
my favorite character development 🤣
We all knew it was coming. She just didn't yet LoL
The One Piece fan character development that we all go through
Merphy is so immersed with the arc she needs to do a review in this. 😂
Thinking both Ginny and Kuma, slaves since they were children, gave EVERYTHING including their own lives to make sure their daughter would not suffer the same, and now she has the faith and the power to imagine herself in a future where she is "the most free"... literally one of my new favorite One Piece panels. Thinking about powerscaling and who can punch who the hardest is such a disservice and such a sad reaction to this. Like, guys, this is all about JOY. BUGGY IS A YONKO, GUYS, STOP POWERSCALING AND COME DANCE WITH THE REST OF US.
Buggy being an Emperor doesn’t invalidate power scaling. He was made an Emperor through a hilarious series of events that is easy to follow. If Buggy was suddenly able to easily stomp Mihawk and Crocodile, that would be questionable.
@@HurricaneDDragon The fandom has been throwing around terms like yonko-level and admiral-level and the such for as long as I can remember. Makes absolutely no sense. Buggy is a yonko. Luffy defeated a insane logia just because he was rubber. It doesn't mean Yonkos are less powerful or Luffy is a worse protagonist, it just means One Piece is just not about powerscaling, it's about solid plot, in-depth themes and the usual goofiness. And Bonney's moment had nothing to do with how hard she can or cannot punch, and I think we all know it.
@@Miss_All_SundaysDon't engage or encourage their nonsense. Just ignore them, they'll only spoil the dance if we invite them to it!
It doesn't bother me that Bonney can go into the Gear 5 form, even if you compare it to Luffy who went through hell to awaken it, I always felt a big thing with Luffy was you don't have to go through the hell he or anyone else has gone through to be happy or have a family, so HIM being the one to encourage Bonney to even try to do that form makes every bit of sense to me, and feels great!
Yes 🔥
So you are fine with bonney potentially giving people/strawhats gear 5 form for a short duration later on in the story😂
@@joshuaname5776 we don't even know how her fruit works, it's all assumptions lmao. We don't even know if she's actually getting his powers or just mimicking them based on how she's seen his powers work. Just because she LOOKS like Gear 5th doesn't mean she's as strong as Gear 5th nor does it mean she's awakened.
@@joshuaname5776 thats an assumption, it works for HER. But distorted future doesnt seem to work for others since she cant imagine other futures or realities for them other than being old or young. Like how she made Luffy an ugly and frail old man,
@@joshuaname5776fine?!? I'd be so hyped it wouldn't even be funny. Imagine Robin being able to used her awakening combined with the Nika powers to litterally slingshot a buster call back at the navy, would be an amazing character moment for her to!
12:56 props to Tissine! I'll definitely be buying this print at some point! I picked up a couple of the others and this will be an excellent addition (gonna wait for a few more so I can get several at once~)
She really so talented
Bonnie becoming Nika is the greatest victory Luffy has achieved and is the perfect manifestation of Luffy's will and what his character is supposed to be.
If there is one true goal that Luffy has, it's to strive for freedom for all of his friends and the world.
Luffy's MO is not to just be strong to save others, it's to make a world where everyone is strong enough to save themselves and follow their dreams.
Being able to inspire others to be just as free as the literal god of Freedom is Gear 5's whole purpose, with being strong as a side effect. It may have come up suddenly, but it has more than justified its existence by now. Nika's beat seems to compel others to laugh and dance in an infectious manner, and that same energy has now inspired a child of slaves to believe wholeheartedly that she deserves to be free.
If Bonny COULDN'T become Nika with her fruit, a power that literally works to create a future that the user believes can happen, then G5 would have failed and had no use beyond a simple gag.
Luffy wouldn't get frustrated that someone got his powers in a "cheap" way, he would be ecstatic to see that Bonny is able to act just as free as him.
Summed it up perfectly.
100% agree
I'm so proud of you properly theorizing that the message would continue. You are awesome.
I’ve been in the "Bonney's going to join the RA” camp for a while. And with these Nika-like powers, I can definitely see it. Because now, Bonney can act as an apostle for Nika the Sun God. At the same time, I’m also considering the “Bonney going to join the SHs” camp more than ever. Her turning into a Nika form feels very apprentice-coded. Especially with the way Luffy supports and recognizes her power like he does with all of his crew mates and friends. It goes into the themes of Luffy’s leadership that have been prevalent since Post-timeskip. Then again, Oda has always been good at the SHs’ power sets not overlapping too much. But I love the sentiment that the daughter of slaves can see herself as completely free. And I've seen many people worried that now they can spread Gear 5 like in Naruto. I don't see that. It’s not Luffy affecting Bonney. It’s just Bonney’s powers. Bonney’s powers come from belief. So it’s her belief that she can be free. It’s the reason it didn’t really work when she wanted a “Nika-like future” is because Nika isn’t about power or physical strength, it’s about freedom. And in this world and to Bonney, Nika is the embodiment of freedom. Plus, Bonney being a twelve-year-old, the same age as Oda’s core audience, allows Oda to tell his audience that anyone can be Nika, anyone can be free. And I think that’s really cool.
We hear a few common sentiments and a lot of assumption in the dislike of this single panel. I think there are clear themes and there is clear messaging here that contradicts these rare criticisms.
While he once said that he writes for a target audience of his 15-year old self, Eiichiro Oda has two daughters, one of which is about 14-15 years old. What message do you think he wants her to take away from this thematic beauty? Is it "it's only okay if he NERFs her, and she's weak..." Or "she shouldn't be comparable to the mighty main character..." Or "she needs to go to an orphanage, and not fight for her own freedom..."
I think he said "this one's for you, my daughters... I want you to believe you can do anything - even defeat monsters and become like gods." And I want Bonney to be able to do something cool, too.
What do you think? 🙂 Cheers, UA-cam!
Didnt realize he has 2 teenage daughters. That makes so much sense
Bonney is basically JoyGirl
The Gorosei have noone but Saturn to blame for the situation they are put in
Looking forward to how many chapters of reaction peace Oda can do lol
I love this for Bonney. It fits so well with the story that Oda has been telling this arc. I hope Oda handles it correctly. We know Bonney can't keep up Distorted Future for long and I think their should be some restrictions to the power. Like maybe it can only imagine Zoan powers or physical atteibutes and not let's say the Dark-Dark fruit and then she could just use it. And also we know she is restricted by information. So if I say turn into a future where you have Kaido's Azure Dragon fruit, she wouldn't be able to do it accurately.
Exactly, people say she can copy DF but so far all she has done is change her bodily shape which certainly emulates other fruits but that’s just because she’s modeling it off the stories of Nika/being free which she doesn’t realize a fruit is responsible for Luffy’s Nika form.
That art is incredible!!
this rapidly became my favorite op review channel. such great insight.
Just now realizing that Bonney’s devil fruit perfectly embodies vegapunk’s hypothesis for the origin of devil fruits in general. Her power is literally the embodiment of that idea of wish fulfillment of “if only I could do this”
I, for one, am actually hype for the next chapter with Nika-Bonney. Previously everything gear-5-Luffy did (attacks wise) was really fun to see, so I’m really exited for the combo moves Luffy and Bonney could perform.
I’m also not really of the opinion that Bonney transforming into a Nika-form doesn’t make sense. It was established that her distorted future ability only works as well as her capacity to believe/hope in what she wants. So it makes sense she can transform into Nika (and not any other devil fruits) because of the strong bond she has with the concept of Nika. Bonney has praying to Nika and dreaming of Nika for all her life (thanks to Kuma). Also Luffy literally reignited her belief in Nika a few chapters ago, so her belief is stronger than ever.
To be honest, I’m not really thinking too much if that makes sense “power-scaling wise”, I just think it was foreshadowed character wise and feels earned for her. Bonney and Kuma have been through a lot. Bonney has earned the right to feel as free as Nika, I’d say.
Also Bonney has been experimenting with her powers since she was a child so it also technically took a lot of time for Bonney to reach a high skill level with her distorted future ability.
I’m honestly not that worried for what Oda has in store for this situation.
I may have commented this already, but I think Nami is doing most of the managing of the Straw Hats.
She coordinates her group, like sending Jinbe to fetch Zoro. And Sanji and her have both been asking the other how their group is doing whenever they contact each other.
The thing that I think people who don't like that Bonney can go into Gear 5 need to remember is what she said after she turned into a giant. Franky was shocked and she said, "I can't hold distorted future for long." She literally can do one or two things max each time. Every time she's done it, it was a single move, and this will be her most taxing version of it.
Check every nook and cranny of that place, I’ve heard too many horror stories of air bnbs
Eeeeh... while some of them ate true, they are not as common as the internet would make you think.
@@moonlight2870 I disagree and think surveillance equipment is basically to be expected. Doesn't have to be a horror story but it could raise some eyebrows.
The first 10 seconds made me laugh after getting Merphapunk for the last chapter 🤣
Gotta love and embrace the weird
You described exactly how I felt about this chapter
I think that's fair to feel that Bonney's powers are a bit convoluted or that are working just for the sake of the plot, but if someone has accepted that Bonney can become a rubber giant before, then her turning in something "like" (because we still don't know what she can actually do) Nika it's qualitative not that much different. The biggest step up from "my fruit can alter ages" is the former, not the latter.
18:35 That's funny, in retrospect, because one of the most common complaints people had about G5 was that it made Luffy feel as a "chosen one" (he is not).
18:20 I was in thr middle of typing this as you got to this point.
I like seeing Saturn's potential downfall coming from his own machinations
Great review. I think something that’s understated now is when Luffy’s heart gets going it literally affects the tides by the looks of things?
That’s crazy that he’s parted clouds and now is causing the sea to shake
Scientists aren’t usually known for being the best communicators of their ideas (science communicators doing great work bridging the gap) so the issues with Vegapunk’s message felt pretty realistic to me if not also a bit contrived
Snail phones are fresh water animals. Salt at snails don't mix. Same thing happened at the summit war and buggy
I think it’s Luffy’s fruit the one that’s allowing Bonney to transform into Nika, since he said he believes she can do it
The transformation to Tekqueen101 is finally complete 😊
It makes sense thematically, I like it
I hope its a one time transformation. Thematically though, it was evident that bonney would be transforming to nika. We saw that from miles away.
Boba once told black beard that even if takes her power he wouldn’t be able to undo her petrification. I assume that love love fruit would manifest differently for every person. So may this may apply to Bonney and her mimicking Luffy in his gear 5th form. Hopefully Bonney’s form will display different show of power more in line with what she is used to.
Honestly, i couldn't care less about power scaling and "what battle shonen is meant to be", truth is, one piece looks like a shonen and walks like a shonen, but it's just a commentary on what Oda believes about life, freedom, discrimination and 1000 other themes. It has been the theme of expansive discussion that Luffy's power doesn't rely on how strong he is, but on what he can inspire and how he can get people to rally around him and free their minds, be it in Arlong Park, Dressrosa, Wano, Sypeia, Luffy has always been about showing people they don't have to believe there's only one way, they don't have to be ok with opression, they don't have to accept what "is"; this is Luffy inspiring someone else to be free AND I LOVE IT. In fact, i would love the possibility of Luffy not being "the one", but for him to be the inspiration for a lot of people to become "the one", of him showing people how to be free and them achieving it, i'd actually love for a final battle where a thousand people get white hair and laugh and have fun while they defeat their oppressors 'cause that's the thing; oppression hates laughter and "laugh tale" can't be anything other than a tale about laughs. If Luffy is joyboy, he's not only meant to be joyful, he's meant to bring joy, to inspire joy and freedom and if that is his power, he should be able to share it and bring people up to that same level, the moral of the story cannot be that he makes people laugh and then joy dies with him.
I feel like vegapunk has so much going through his mind sometimes that he always has a bad way of phrasing things.
in marineford we saw what happens when a snailphone meets saltwater
I feel like ALOT of people are forgetting the fact that Saturn and Vegapunk both very thoroughly elude to Bonney being able to mimic Luffy's powers if the circumstances are correct.
But even without that, the girl can change her literal race and species using her Devil fruit ... how was anyone surprised that she could do this??? like at all???
I think it's brilliant and alot of people are either blowing it out of proportion when it's actually really brilliant writing, or they're just being very incelly
Are the transponder snails a freshwater animal?. If they are, then they won't survive in the ocean.
I assume some are, yet things like the territorial sea slugs give me pause. It has been established there are many species, so while there may be transponder snails capable of surviving - thriving even - we can only guess.
I recall Hody Jones making use of some large video transponder snails during the Fishman Island arc. Cannot recall if they were or were not inside a bubble.
What an artwork
My favourite twitter comment from when the early chapter came out-
"The man born in slavery, managed to raise the freest daughter in the world."
Damn, Tissine...
just...
damn...
😭
Love the tiny strawhat in the artpiece
7:49 I prefer to see most of the evil Vegapunk satellites still on the side of good symbolic of the Stella himself being a genuinely good man. A person’s goodness can overcome much of their internal struggles. Vegapunk’s greed being the one who betrayed them all is telling.
Vegapunk’s greed for knowledge is what caused all of this. In the sense he created the power source for the Ancient Weapon because he could, and that his literal incarnation of greed delivered it to the worst possible people. The point being goodness alone isn’t always enough. People will make mistakes and be blinded by their pursuits.
That one mistake isn’t enough to destroy all the goodness in a person, thankfully. Which is why most negative satellites act more mischievous than maliciously. The Stella’s biggest flaw was a lust for knowledge and the power it brings. That the power wasn’t just for himself isn’t point. Current global affairs is a result of Vegapunk’s actions, and the way his satellites behaved is a microcosm of this.
Short version I love the Bonney stuff, explanation below:
(Even though I spoiled myself since I am only watching the anime 😅)
I like Bonney and I personally wouldn't mind if Luffy managed to set her free and she could be an alternate universe version of herself in which she was Nika. Is it kinda an "Deus Ex Machina" moment for our universe but based on my understanding of Bonney's fruit abilities the distorted future feels more like bridging the gaps to parallel universe versions of people/herself so to me that would ALSO imply that her alternate universe version also experienced the same hardships and development Luffy did.
AND it implies to me that it is only limited to her and not the whole crew since none of the crew have powers that could tap into alternate realities!
People don't want Bonney to be stronger than their fav.
I thought the development makes sense and I don't even mind it in terms of enjoyability. As for powerscaling I couldn't care less.
But while the theme and setup is there I think it's the delivery of the scene that could have been done better, and it's probably part of a wider issue of Oda trying to cram too many panels without letting scenes breathe more (cause it would make the story longer).
The picutes from your designer always get me, but this one...I can't even ;(((((
Since we know Luffy ate the model "Nika" fruit. Could Bonney's fruit be the model "Imu"?
Bonney wasn't "me too", Luffy was "you too"!
On Vacation=Not Home, Got it 👍
Luffy fruit embodies freedom and likes to spreads freedom, not monopolize, if anything it likes others to copy it.
I assume Vega punk does not implicate the world government so as to not implicate, innocent, navy soldiers
If only the bird Gorosei follows them, they should be able to deal with it
I will riot if vegapunk spent all this time playing the centrist role just to find out that there’s no nuance to the 20 kingdom’s ideology and that they’re explicitly wrong for what they’re doing
I don't think Vegapunk knows that World Government has an ancient weapon. We know that he can be naive at times. As far as he is concerned, the ancient weapon belonged to the ancient kingdom and Joyboy wanted to pass it on. Now someone has stolen his Mother flame to use the weapon. He maybe is thinking that Joyboy's successor for some reason want the world to be flooded and thus used the weapon. He thus doesnot want to blame "him", the him here being Joyboy.
We maybe misinterpreting it because we know about Imu, but no one knows that world government is behind the Lulusia incident.
Vegapunk said that he wasnt gonna tell anything that is speculation and he was just gonna talk about facts. Vegapunk shouldnt know anything that the oharans(clover) doesnt know. Most of His knowledge of the poneglyphs was salvaged from the oharans. Clover, when talking to the Elders only knew about the kingdom and they just speculated that the enemy was the WG since when the void century ended the WG was founded immediately after. In other words, they just guessed that WG was the enemy. This is probably why vegapunk didnt talk about the WG because he wanted to just state out the facts.
I think Bonney in Nika form should have access to all of Luffy's Nika powers, and I'm gonna explain why.
To me, this is a situation where you have to commit. Placing categorical limitations on which Nika powers Bonney can use, would be arbitrary and cheap. The distinction between Bonney and Nika should be the organic differences betwern someone who has been using this power their whole life and whose mind basically thinks in rubber physics, vs someone who is using a conduit and has only had these powers for 30 seconds. Conceptually, it should be possible for Luffy to show Bonney how to do something, and Bonney to kind of start to get the hang of it. Bonney will never be a natural at it the way Luffy has, but I think saying "well, she may be Nika but she can't warp the environment like Nika can", would be a really cynical and sad way to approach something that could otherwise be allegorical to the larger journey. Luffy is showing Bonney how to be Nika, but that's not really what it's about, is it? Luffy's showing Bonney how to be free. Bonney can have all the freedom Luffy has, but she needs to learn what that means for her.
I don't think Bonney has all of Luffy's powers. I'd imagine it won't last long and she may not have the paramecia style powerup of turning the environment into rubber. I think this is the way to do it. It would be a powerup, but not so much that it feels like she got what Luffy had to suffer for, way easier (at least, it won't feel this way to me).
A future where iam the worlds strongest swordsman
I believe Xebec used Bonney's fruit before Bonney
Maybe den den mushi is not salt water snail
I can't imagine Luffy kicking the ladder, being like, "I worked hard for this freedom, so you can't have it." Seems antithetical to the story.
You.
You get it.
I can see him doing that for meat, though. 😂
Genuinely... Gear 5 is Luffy at his most Luffy as well...
besides, luffy would want someone else to transform just because it's cool.
if bonney could use distorted future to shoot a laser, luffy would be even more psyched.
Yes! This! Feels like many of the peeps who hate it are very narrow-minded. They'll never get Luffy, ever. 😂 Which is too bad.
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0:48 During Marineford the Snail phone that Buggy used shriveled up when dipped in salt water.
It seems they behave like land snails and shrivel up or die when exposed to salt.
So what you’re saying is they’d die from contact with the Bonney-Nika haters
@@sailorgallifrey1365 HAHAHAHAHA
@@sailorgallifrey1365 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO nice
Wonder what’s up with Germa 66 snails then if salt doesn’t bother them
@@collecter343 probably just like IRL, there are freshwater, saltwater, and land snails
also no doubt Germa can engineer their snails for anything
Tissine has outdone herself this time. My favorite piece by her so far!
I think for me the one where Kuma travels down memory lane as his consciousness is about to get wiped out is still the best.
What amazing artwork that has been done by the famous and amazing 1 - 1 - 1 - 8!!! #1118 #tessine #greatest
I'm baffled that people are conflicted on Bonney here; I've been waiting for this for weeks and it's probably the most thematically important moment in the arc, if not in One Piece as a whole.
For hundreds of years an uncountable number of people have fought for freedom against tyranny, making small progress, setting plans into motion, inspiring people with their dreams and their wills so that they may be carried forward beyond even failure or death. By luck or by inevitability Luffy has become the recipient of these wills as he aspires towards his dream and fights tooth and nail for the dreams and the freedom of other people, and in doing draws others to support him. In the penultimate moment of the fight against Kaido, he fully actualizes and embodies those wills and that history by giving everything in a nearly hopeless struggle to free a whole people from unimaginable oppression, and incarnates into a symbol which embodies perfect freedom, and the joy which that ideal draws forth. That is all brilliant, and it is a logical step for this series as it reaches its conclusion to manifest its core themes in this way, but there is a problem.
One Piece is a reflection of our own world, its themes and its history paralleling our own, and our own world is driven by a history of unfathomable horror, which in a Manga ostensibly for kids can only touch lightly upon those subjects. A group of unaccountable elites using military hegemony to enforce imperial rule upon the whole world? That military using force to cut down civilians affected by horrible labor conditions that cause adverse health effects? Slavery? A Japanese force made to create weapons for a world war? A fascist regime in a Spain-like country? Assuming that Oda wants us to apply the lessons he is teaching us to our own world; that he is passing on his knowledge and his beliefs and his will onto a new generation that will carry it into the future, how does he make the jump from the strange world of One Piece where these themes can manifest literally, in the form of devil fruits and haki, to our world where those themes manifest in less clear ways?
He shows that a child, in spite of the horror of the world, can imagine a better future and fight for that future by looking to Luffy, and that they can fully embody that desire for freedom and achieve that dream. Bonney's power turns her dream into a reality, but when Saturn, a representative of the tyranny that would deny her freedom sees this, he tries to convince her that her dreams are not only impossible to achieve, but literally not real in the first place. Luffy, in contrast, physically embodies the reality of her dream, and encourages her to seek it and imagine it. She becomes that dream that she dreams for the future. One Piece is a reflection of our own world, its themes and its history paralleling our own, and when I see Bonney transform into Nika I can see, in the faintest glimpse, the dreams that I imagine for the future. I can imagine myself fighting for a better world. I can hope that I could embody Luffy and Joyboy and Nika. I can feel reassured knowing that even in death or in failure, my deeds or my words might inspire others to carry that torch in my absence. When that optimistic child imagines a future that is free and becomes Nika, it means that we can all do the same if, through acts of great courage and willpower, we choose to pursue that dream as well.
It's also symbolic of the hopes that we put on the next generation. The hope that we feel when we see a child look at the world with wonder in their eyes. Children are the future and this chapter was an amazing example of that idea.
Dude 👍👌👏
Beautiful!
i love that you brought up how young Bonney is too, because some people get SO MAD that a 12 year old girl is at this level in the end of the New World LMAO
i think it's one of the smartest moves Oda has made, showing us that the youngest pirates, the ones with the most potential futures, will always be the ones who have the most chances to learn and grow from the mistakes that the elders of the world have made and in turn be the ones to usher in the brightest possible future for everyone else.
because if children aren't allowed to dream, what kind of living hell have we adults created?
This was a beautiful read, thank you so much for this. It really is an incredible moment for the series
4:25 Actually he doesn't know the world government has the weapons. All he knows is the piece of the Mother Flame has been taken. He just doesn't know who. All he knows for a fact is someone stole a piece of the flame and is using a powerful ancient weapon. The only person that knows for a fact is his gluttonous and greedy version of himself. He's very smart he's just not very wise.
I think you're underestimating Vegapunk's ability to connect the dots. This is not a wisdom issue, this is straight intelligence.
@@LookingForAName... I'm not underestimating him we know for a fact he didn't connect all the dots. All he knew was that the flame was taken and an earthquake had happened. He made the video before the Straw Hats even got there and even before Sabo just found out to be alive. He knew the government was coming to kill him for looking up the lost history. He did not know he got betrayed until the Straw Hats got there. For all he knows a pirate can have that weapon or another country. People are thinking we the readers know it he should know it which is not the case. I'm pretty sure one version of him will figure it out once this arc is over.
I think regardless of connecting the dots Vegapunk said he is not going to speculate and that’s exactly what he’s doing. Saying only the facts.
I'm glad you brought up how thematically beautiful this moment is for Bonnie. I think some people get lost in the "powerscaling" sauce
powerscaling is important
@@mrstrangeworld5977powerscaling is just a part of storytelling, as was bonnie feeling that she was able to do everything because that is what luffy is. Luffy is the sole empowerment of hope. Yes gear 5 is an upgrade to luffy's powers, but it is also a symbol of hope and that makes gear 5 such a scary power up that just being around people is giving hope to those who need it and that is why the world government tried to get rid of the nika nika fruit
@@mrstrangeworld5977 u are right, powerscaling is important, oda has to balance bonnie out somehow otherwise we are going to ask ourselves questions like: "why doesn't she just turn into awakened kizaru or something", + only luffy should be the true nika although I like the idea of joyboy and joygirl fighting together and doing some combo moves
Bonnie only can transform into futures she sees as possible. Nika being the expression of being totally free, she at least can see herself totally free and that's why she can transform into that. She can't transform into anything she wants
Allways, and worst, its a bad powerscaling
Bonney expressing that desire to be free and manifesting it made me tear up considering her and her family's story. Really beautiful
Your hair is fucking amazing
Also another note regarding the Vegapunks still in play:
- Both Lilith and Atlas are named after mythological figures who opposed the main gods in their respective tales (Lilith the Christian god, Atlas the Olympians in Greek Mythology), which nicely ties into them opposing the gods/divinity of the World Government.
- York is named after the city of York in England, which was long considered the seat of Catholicism in England, and often banded together with the crown to enrich themselves (parallel with York allying with the WG to enrich herself/become a Celestial Dragon). This one is a bit more of a stretch, but my current reading behind her name.
I think Bonney cant copy df abilities, but she can imagine herself to be someone she knew to be real. Like she cant be an ice ice fruit user, but she can choose future where she is giant, or Buddha if she believes Buddha to be real
If she could imagine a future where she ate like chop chop fruit then she is imagining a future where she didnt have her toshi toshi no me fruit power
So while her belief in Nika lets her turn into Nika, maybe she can only copy what Luffy does, but Luffy pushes what we think Nika can do each time purely on instinct and letting df guide him.
I am sure there are other limitations on it too
But other than that, unlike Luffy, Bonney is pretty strong from the start, she got gear 3 equivalent and wrecked a CP8 agent when she turned 10, with not much combat experience beforehand
If we get more of Vegapunks message, I think it will be finishing what professor Clover said and gives the name of the Acient Kingdom, but not musch more than that.
We as a fandom have a tendency to over think and make so many assumptions and final decisions before seeing the full conclusion. Same thing happened during the war in onigashima when Apoo damaged Luffy and Zoro, people hated it before we even got to see the full scene and it's the same thing here. Also Oda is just making a story that he himself would love to read, he wants to have fun drawing his own story and I have full faith in him. He gave us One Piece and with it Luffy and all the characters, their stories, sadness, happiness, anger and dreams. I will always be grateful for it.
The last page of this chapter reminds me alto of the First time momo turned into his adult dragon form. We know he is not going to be as strong as Kaido, but Is great help to his allies and means alot in the subtext
I think no one’s gonna die anymore in this arc.
My predictions for how to escape the birdie elder…
Option 1: The Iron Giant emerges from the Water and grabs him.
Option 2: The bird is going to sink the ship with a final fireball only to get brutally hit in the neck in the last second by the Thousand Sunny that’s been launched from the clouds with a Coup De Burst! 💪
Second one would be my favorite. 😂
Kuma is also watching Bonney achieve this because the person Kuma saved inspired Bonney. So Kuma is literally directly responsible for Bonney achieving this.
I love that there's a "second" Nika. Luffy doesn't care about prophecy, he doesn't believe that he's destined for anything. Luffy never thought he was the one who was "supposed" to do anything, he just did what he thought was right because no one else either would or could. I think it is incredibly important to show that someone else, especially in this case a child, can do the same things Luffy can. You just have to believe in yourself and believe in your future.
To paraphrase Stan Lee: "Anyone can be [Nika]"
I think bonney can only really fully become what she can actually understand, as well
Similarly, I believe her ability can be influenced with literal role models.
Yeah, her power is all based on true, gebuibe belief, its so ppwerful because she is a child, meaning its a skill that just baturally cones easily to a child, i asume the ability becomes less powerful the less childlike you are, so most of the One Piece cast would never be able to do what Bonney does on account of beibg mature and jaded enough they'd never have the sort of belief on a future where they can become like that like Bonney and Luffy would
Recently Oda mastered the art of let me have few 15 to 14 pages so I draw less
But
Let me cram so much content in so many panels and with this toei can potentially cook an entire anime episode out of these 14 pages
Just add more dialogue more flair to the animation and the moves and the attacks etc highlight more some of the background back and forth comedic moments
Boom Oda magic and somehow these 14 pages managed to fill a 24 minutes episode
What a beautiful piece! Having Kuma as the focus is more perfect than perfect in addition to just being stunning and vibrant
I think the reason Vegapunk didnt point a finger at the World Government is because like he said before, he isnt sure who is in the "Moral Right". He might also not have enough information based on his findings to say exactly WHO is the one making the world sink and he might not even know that they are leading the World Government in secrecy. Or he could be thinking about the average civilians safety and not wanting to cause all out war/revolt against the World Government which would likely result in the massacre of many islands. I think Vegapunk believes that Luffy will save the world and if thats the case he might only be interested in expressing "heres what the past was like" and "hey figure out how not to die by sinking into the ocean" and "Hey D people amongst you is blah blah blah".
0:10 Merphy being out of character for once XD
You perfectly summed up why Bonney transforming into Nika is absolutely stunning from a narrative point of view. It feels nice to know that most OP-tubers actually read One Piece for its themes and less for its powerscaling.
This elevates Bonney, Luffy and the very concept of "Nika" so much. It got me emotional when I read the final page. The struggle of individual and the inspiration to embody the ideals of Nika is what creates this myth of Nika. It's not a singular person. It's for the Masses by the Masses. And that's so One Piece which has every arc explore places and the actual common people who live there and their struggles.
It's a slap to the face of 25years of Luffys character development
@@rugbyfan808 lol probably those who clearly don't care about character development beyond throwing punches
@@deliii395 that seems to the singular argument for people that like Bonney going Nika, as if the rest of us who don't like it are just drooling idiots. It's bad writing and it lessens everything Luffy has ever been building toward. It has nothing to do with "punches"
I don't really feel like Bonnie struggled that much with the idea of freedom throughout Egghead. If anything, it feels like Bonnie's arc was sidelined to give Kuma's arc a greater resolution (seeing his daughter become the very symbol of freedom he lived his life by). This moment doesn't feel like a climactic win for Bonnie as a character, it's a win for Kuma, which is much less interesting in my opinion.
@@noahc1900 yo "Will he free me too?" Is one of the most significant dialogues of Bonney and her struggle to see a better future when confronted with Saturn & his systemic abuse of her family is literally what permeates and more significantly bookends the backstory and the arc.
i think its also important and emotionally amazing to note that the lesson Luffy is teaching Bonny is the same lesson that Kuma's dad tried to teach him right before he was shot. that no matter where you are, freedom and Joy is just a thought away, even when you are imprisoned or chased after by a giant death-bird you can always be free if you choose to be. to me that's amazing, and feels like a lesson that Oda is trying to teach his girls through the story.
I understand how people doesn't feel nice that Luffy had to do all the hard work to reach Gear 5 but also it was Luffy who encourage Bonney to be able to use Gear 5.
Luffy really doesn't care all about Joyboy or Nikka. Everyone keeps calling him Joyboy or Nikka but to him, he is Luffy.
To Luffy being the chosen one doesn't matter. He does what he wants. Saving the world is just the aftermath to his goal.
But what if Luffyuses the power of Dreams to turn everyone into Nikka and Imu uses the power of Nightmares to turn the Elders to demons.
His power is imagination. He told Bonney, “I believe you can do it”
So yea I think Bonney’s able to do this because Luffy’s there
The best part is that Luffy didn't do any work at all to reach Gear 5. He didn't even entertain the thought of awakening his fruit once. He just "died" and somehow (read "Oda didn't even pretended like he gave a shit") the Nika fruit resurected him instead of leaving his body for a fruit.
@@solidkwonI think Bonneys power is imagination
@@Damnitgary she can imagine versions of herself and others but Luffy can truly modify his surroundings and himself according to his imagination
Luffy made a baseball bat out of a regular tree. Thats a different level of imagination imo
I have seen a lot of people complaining about the ending, that this came out of nowhere but... Bonney literally did this twice before. Once against the cp while she was escaping and once against Saturn before he broke her faith. So what's all the fus about?
True 👊💪
They don't really have a narrative related reason, they're just mad another character can use Gear 5. The amount of haters for Gear 5 Bonney is around the same amount of hate Gear 5 got when it was initially revealed. She's no different to Sugar or Momo, she doesn't seem to have haki and is still learning the possibilities with her fruit, which is naturally nerfed by the fact that it gets weaker as she gets old.
Piratefolk subbers are just collaborating
Exactly this wasn't a surprise. It's not like it's the first time she's done anything like this.
My wish is for the robot to grab at least one of the Elders down in the ocean.
Imagine the guabt gets out of the water and grabs Mars down underwater when he's about to swoop in for an attack
@@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizardand he’d be boned if the other Elders can’t help him lol
Want him to grab and take the bird down, atleast long enough them to get away
@@ripperdjak6224 They.. kind of.. did that!
@@MarcyTheKindaCoolWizard are you serious?
If Bonney was put on her ass after like 15 seconds of Dustorted Future: Giant when she was fighting Venus, shes probably only gonna be good for a few seconds in her Gear 5 future and then she'll be out. Distorted Future essentually gives her the ability to, under the right circumstances, mimic the powers of other Devil Fruits or races but shes trading efficiency for versatility. Shes not gonna be able to do as much with it as Luffy who is specialized into it
19:33 I think distorted future is an ability Bonney can only use on herself. Unless she called it on someone else and then aged them that Im forgetting about. I don't think she'll be turning anyone else into a Nika any time soon.
She used it on Luffy at the start of Egghead when she turned him into his bad timeline self.
@Nellie-Brooks looking at the chapters, it just happens off-screen, and what she does is consistent with her powers and how she's used it one other's. I guess what I'm trying to say is that her powers probably work vaguely on others, and she can create a more precise future for herself. I just super doubt she'll be able to power other people up with her ability.
Luffy isn't a chosen one, there is no higher calling he's shouldering. He burned the flag at Enies Lobby because they abused, manipulated and wanted to kill Robin, his friend. He's a pirate because he thinks pirates are cool. His view on the Pirate King is that it's a stepping stone to his true dream. Luffy isn't going around attacking World Government outposts because its his destiny or fate, he's coincidentally causing trouble trying to save his friends. His brother. Luffy has caused more harm to innocent people than most fans realise, the focal characters are fine and his friends, but the level 5 and 6 inmates who escaped from Impel down?
Lotta bad stuff happening to a lot of innocent men, women and children because of HIM.
The World Government is most likely going to be undone by chasing after him or his friends, and as a result they'll be defeated. But not because he went after them. The kid just wants to sail, chase his dream. Luffy isn't a revolutionary, he's not a hero. That's his dad. That's his Grandfather. Imu and the Gorosei are going to unmake themselves due to complacency, they've bullied the weak for so long from the shadows they're probably no where near as strong as they used to be.
Nusjuro just traded a death blow, with a no banada Zoro, it's over for them.
I think this is a very eloquent and fairly accurate interpretation, at least for now. Oda can always change our minds. But I'm not sure the bandana matters at this point. Zoro smells a sword! 😀
Doesn't it tie into the theme of being Nika that his dream would be to free the slaves?
@@ebioweifekumo3335 Yes, I think so... I say 'Let Eiichiro cook. It smells delicious!!!"
The Snails are… well, literally snails, the ocean is saltwater and salt kills snails (though being inside the Iron Giant might be preventing/protecting the snail from coming into contact with the saltwater immediately).
On a side note, I feel like it's all but confirmed at this point that Bonney is gonna join the Straw Hats as the apprentice of the crew. Luffy is quite directly taking on the Mentorship role towards Bonney and considering that she's been looking for Luffy/Nika and how much Nika ties into Bonney and Kuma's characters and backstories I think she's the perfect fit for the Final Straw Hat (assuming you don't consider Yamato/Vivi joining later on as being the Final crewmates, which I don't as they're practically honorary Straw Hats already)
It pisses me off the hypocrisy of Vegapunk, like you said, not discussing morality on the government actions, and now basically his message was totally in vain, it literally made no difference to say that the world will sink, if he doesn't point who will be the responsible for this. The only thing he accomplished was to make the world hate Luffy.
With this chapter, it became clear to me that this wasn’t Vegapunk’s arc. It wasn’t the Gorosei’s arc. It wasn’t Kuma’s arc. It was Bonney’s arc. And that final panel is the culmination of that arc. When I read it, I was filled with joy, as was clearly intended. I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the people complaining about Sun God Bonney were people complaining about Gear Fifth in the first place.
I still am hoping Buggy gets remembered as the Sun God. The way he appears to stretch with his cloak on and spreading his body parts and the fact he said if Luffy will be Pirate King that must make him Pirate God, but with more actual Nika's in the mix who knows now. All I know is the history books won't remember Luffy as a hero cause he doesn't even want it.😂
I was watching someone react to fishman island and Franky says he finished a robot (Franky General) that Vegapunk didn't and now we have the Iron giant, love it.
Also, a poll was taken with well over 10k people and it turns out, only 3% of the fanbase "hates it" (it being Bonney going gear 5). They are just a VERY, VERY, VERY vocal tiny minority! Lol and a VERY, VERY, VERY ANNOYING minority might I add!! But it's a tiny sliver of the overall fanbase so there's not nearly as much controversy as it seemed there was.
MY BABY GIRL IS FREEEEEEEEE😭
i actually couldnt stop crying this chapter, Bonney and Kuma have very quickly shot up the ranks in my heart and seeing her finally speak with Nika and realize that the future DOES have a bright path ahead just fills me with too many emotions dude.
her entire life she's been waiting for this moment and now she is fighting SIDE BY SIDE with the Warrior of Liberation himself in the face of everything that has ever hurt her and her family
as for the power scaling combat level side of it, i dont believe Bonney is truly in a Gear 5 state like Luffy. she is in a form that she believes to be equal to Luffy, but since neither of them really understand the power of Nika she can't ever reach his same level. she will most likely be STUPID strong, just like when we first saw Gear 5, but i wouldn't be shocked if she gets hit by the immense blowback and strength drain from using it just like Luffy did in the fight against Kaido.
she's going to have to take just as much time as Luffy, if not more, to train this transformation and maintain it without totally wiping out mid battle.
ALSO KEEP IN MIND: her Fruit LITERALLY allows her to become anything she envisions as long as she CAN envision it, so i don't see why people are upset about her becoming Nika. we've BEEN knew that her fruit is fucking absurd and that her limits have always only ever been her imagination LMAO
either way, im personally ecstatic that she has unlocked this power and i think it makes perfect sense story-wise
Anyone upset by Bonney's "Most Free Form" is being silly or worse. Oda has sprinkled One Piece with people with similar but not the exact same powers (most recently, Kaido and Momonosuke). And this doesn't mean ALL the Straw Hats will become Nika or Nika-like, after all not all of the Straw Hats even have Devil Fruit powers, but it does open the door for them to reach a level of power on par with the Elder Stars. The Straw Hats are obviously going to need at least one power up (or discover the secret to the Elders' powers) to put up a fight against them...