I’ve donated my EOS M2 to Bilal - really deserves all the praise, also Danne and Alex of course. Looks like I can finally shoot 16:9 aspect ratio in 5K and use my anamorphic lenses. Brilliant !
No not with the m2 I'm afraid. When you export 5k from mlv in anything other than CDNG it'll desqueeze the clips for you. In CDNG you have to desqueeze yourself but it looks great
Just finished that music vid session, I cant believe how reliable this new build was! I literally set it and forgot it, turned the camera on and off probably 10 times, recorded perfectly each time, didn't have to fiddle with any settings, my shutter stayed consistent, no crashing or pink frames. Basically I hit record and it did what it was supposed to like a real camera for once!
Mate, I'm gonna be bold and say to newbies to MLV: Watch this video first then watch Bilal's for deep dive. This video gives the simplest explanation of various modes and resolutions to get started quickly. Thank you for making and sharing this. Brilliant really.
This is beyond incredible! Been an EOS M user since 2012. Just tested and it is such an improvement over any previous Magic Lantern releases. Love the redesign.
Yeah so much better. There were a couple of old builds that were super nice but Crop Mood does make things better overall. Glad you didn't sell it 👍🏾👍🏾
IMPORTANT - FOLLOW BILAL'S VIDEO FOR INSTALLATION - I GLOSSED OVER IT! Also NEVER under-expose footage. Test the limits and join the group for more tips on longer record times in higher bit-rate. I also use the NEW 170MB/s card not the old 95MB/s version hence the slower write speed. Focus Pixel maps are available now - bitbucket.org/bilal_fakhouri/crop-mood-builds/downloads/
Hi Leon, thank you. Your request is probably approved already as we're very fast. There is no quick guide at the moment but I've linked Bilals video in the info section and his is the guide to follow regarding installation. Hope this helps
Beautiful 🙌🏾 I can feel your excitement. A lot of people don't understand why I still use the m but you know why....when used right it looks insanely good.
@@Altcine absolutely bro! Very very excited and passionate that I'm able to create with this especially when a cinema camera setup is so obtainable financially as I invest mainly in music.. so really really appreciate that this exists! And that I can help upcoming artists with there projects 🙏🏻🙂
@@alessandrocardelli5291 get the new dannes build, it no longer needs a walkthrough. Just install and it's ready to shoot. Facebook group has all the info.
For anyone that can not record continuously for some reason with the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card. Try changing the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Then you should be good to go for continuous recording! I hope this helped!
I finally did it...I put crop mood on the m lite😅 and I love it so far. I watched Bilals Video which allowed me to get all the basics done and I watched yours which you really helped with extending my recording time 🙌
Thanks man for this walkthrough, even though I've got my M running, your explanation of features helps in understand the overall process, hats off to you. And l most say you are a great speaker, the world's roll of your tongue with great flow👍
Hi sorry to bother you, I’m new to magic lantern and crop mood, but just to be sure if i’m understand how it works: normally I shoot 35mm on ff, but on an eos m if I run 4k for example I will need 10/11mm lens rigth?thanks in advance
Hi, yes the Eos-M has a crop sensor so you need to times the focal length by 1.6x. If you want the same fov as full frame then get a wide lens or speedbooster. So the correct sum would be 11x1.6=XX to get the correct focal length.
11mm will end up wider than 35mm so you could go around 24mm to get near 35 in UHD (UHD is in the 1x3 crop section) If using the 1:1 crop modes for 2.5k, 2.8k and slightly above for the cleanest image then yes you'll need 11mm as the crop is quite heavy.
@@Altcine thank you so much! Ah ok, so i have to consider only the apsc crop factor(except for 1:1 formfactor)! Sorry but i saw your table at the beginning and i was in trouble with myself trying to understand!Thanks again
Hello, I am just starting to use the crop mod and it is a great job and a pleasure to use. You have to keep in mind that this is only the first version with the first fixes and it already works great. Greetings from Poland :) Michal Berlinski/MBFeniks :)
My jaw is on the floor with this!! Can't wait to get stuck into it. The old ML problems I had, left my camera in the draw. I'll have to dig it out now.
@@Altcine also looking for good stabilisation device so camera footage isn't wobbly. In view of the fact that balance isn't my strong point. Lol. Any ideas? Cheers and thanks for this clip
You have put it all into words in a very comprehensive fashion. Even though I've had EOS M since over a year now with the SD card to install ML but I'm glad that I waited until now to install Magic Lantern Crop Mood..
@@Altcine Brother, your videos have inspired me to install it now, otherwise I had doubts if I should or not. So I was seeing crop mood videos and listing down important stuff until I see this video for which I have written above message. Therefore, I should be able to tell my experience of crop mood by the end of first quarter. Thank you so much for asking though.
@@Altcine Haha, yeah, it's definitely on my list, but not the highest priority... maybe if I can swing the mod you did and once the new ML version matures a bit more... meanwhile I totally enjoy all your new content (and all the other M enthusiasts)! :)
Thanks to magic Lanterns Devs, Zeek and you IMCE Im planning to buy my first Camera that gonna be the EOS M next month ! if someone can help with couples questions tho : 1. Can I output real time Raw video into HDMI into my computer ? 2. Can I still make photos with Crop Mood ? (I gonna be focused on videos but I like photography) Also if ML devs or you for the M Lite need a sound engineer I can help ! You could make live Q&A and just live streaming sometimes :) like when rigging or cleaning video hardware or anything :)
Thank You man! I sold all my Canon gear, but eos M... Just left it as a little gem, it is no longer associates with canon for me, but instead with lantern community and developers. I wish all tech be open source code with free install of operating systems both on body and lenses with apps and add one, like on PC or smartphone. This old enclosed stuff is just bad
I'm sure I just missed it, but I can't seem to find the source of the problem where my EOS M only shoots a couple of seconds, then stops. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Hey , on my two EOS M's crop mood works great in 1x3 5.2k - but works continuesly only in 10Bit (12 or 14bit gives me few seconds of recording only) and also just in my case 192Mhz works almost every time, while 240Mhz NEVER worked for my for my 64 and 128GB Sandisk cards. one is 95MBs and the 128GB is 175MBs * but basically they are the same write speed cards.
Yeah unfortunately that's the way it is. Apparently the data is being read differently and it's very sensitive to light. Try dropping to UHD 14bit. It's a good option.
I have the older 95MB/s Sandisk Card in 32GB Version but it does not work for me even I setup my Canon 100D (SL1 with the magiclantern-crop_mood.2023Aug19.100D101 image) exactely with the same settings like you explained. It stops recording after 2 seconds. Are there any other SD Cards, which are better then the SanDisk Extreme Pro for Crop Mood?
I have an issue, where in photo mode (dial set on photo), whether using ML or not, the shutter won't work with autofocus lens…I have no clue why this can happen, I have tried all focus settings, I can't get the EOS M to even single AF on a subject, so I'm stuck using autofocus lens in manual mode, in photo and in movie mode. I mainly shoot with the manual 7artisans 25mm1.7, but have bought a used EF-M 15-45mm specifically thinking that I could use it to autofocus, as a way to speed up point focusing (not constant focusing) rather than using Magic Zoom each and everytime. Is this a know issue, especially in Photo mode? I get that in Movie mode, ML might not have yet accepted autofocusing lens, but simply taking pictures should work using Photo mode. Any ideas?
Thank you so much, great feedback 🙌🏾. I am using a manual lens here but you can change custom buttons in MAGIC LANTERN MENU PREFS (Wrench icon) CUSTOMISE BUTTONS.
@@Altcine thanks! I also mostly use vintage lenses so I just change the fX then. I am quite need to filming in general so the eos m really forces you to learn alot :)
Vintage is the way to go, they just have an unbeatable look. It's good you're willing to learn on the m. Stick with it because every camera will be child's play after. Not just shooting but you'll learn so much about raw, codecs & containers, grading, bit depth.... everything.
I know this comment is a bit late, but is there any new fixes to MLs rolling shutter? I have a video Im trying to salvage where the subjects warp constantly because of the 34ms readout speed. it would be a great camera if I could find out how to get rid of that.
I doubt there will be any improvement to rolling shutter. You should try GYROFLOW. Brandon Li has a great recent video on it and it might solve your problem.
I am a beginner who just bought the Canon eos M. How do you change the exposure to make the red camera turn green when recording? I got the recommended 95 Sandisk extreme card. Thank you!
There could be a couple things causing this but there's very little information in your post. Resolution, aspect ratio, bit-rate etc without that info it's hard to guide you. Also depends on the card....is it old, real or fake? Head over to the Facebook group and we will help you.
@@Altcine I think I may have got a fake card! I ran the benchmark on my card and it only has about 20 mb/s of write speed. I just bought a Samsung EVO Plus 256 gb 130 mb/s (white casing) SD card which will work well with the EOS M according to the ML discord. I will play with it more and see what happen. THANK YOU FOR THE HELP! I learned so much from your channel! Love from LA!
@@yingtianfu excellent. Unfortunately there's lots of fakes around. The Samsung card is very good, I tested the white one and it works well. Take care 🙌🏾
@@Altcine I figured out what the issue was! My Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s 128 GB card worked well after I set the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from SD Overlock submenu. I was then able to receive a write speed of 76.2 mb/s according to the card benchmark. But anyway, thank you so much for trying to help me! I learned a lot from your channel!
@@Altcine Another question, I can't view my recorded videos on my EOS M screen, for playback, is it normal? I can import them in the MLV app on my laptop though.
Ahhh damn, there's a very simple fix for this but can't remember what it is. We we're discussing this with someone else about a week ago. I thought it was because the person didn't activate mlvplay but it turned out to be something totally unrelated. Go to the Facebook group, the answer is there.
Thanks very much for this video! I have had my EOS-M since it was initially released. I remember it getting quite a bad rep due to its "slow" autofocus and also it being an early model mirrorless camera, but look at it now! I apologize for the newbie question but how are you correcting exposure on the fly while recording? I have looked at customize buttons but that did not help. I am in manual mode for movie recording using the 18-55mm kit lens.
Yes it's insane what it can do now but I'm more impressed that you've had it since release 😯 I'm using a manual lens here. The only way to do it on electronic lens is with an Nd but you probably knew that. Thank you 🙌🏾
@@Altcine Thanks for the super quick reply! I had my suspicion you were using a manual lens and honestly thought there was a way to do this for electronic lenses or adjust this on the fly but I will look into the Nd filter. After this crop mood release, I'm really starting to head down the rabbit hole wondering how I can shoot great footage for an upcoming family event. So now I'm looking at cages, gimblals, lenses etc. A lot to parse through, do you think something like your red komdo build would be appropriate? Thanks again.
Well there is one way you could achieve it but it's using iso. I wouldn't go higher than 400iso and it'll be noticeable in the video. I understand that changing aperture would be preferable but it's not possible. If you want to do the iso way, let me know.
The M-Lite is really designed for productions and whilst it does offer many benefits it's bigger than the tiny m. Watch any Komodo run/gun video about rigging & gimbal and the M-Lite is pretty much the same deal.
Hopefully you're in manual mode and you can change your iso in the canon menu to 100. You should now be able to change it in mL or by setting up custom buttons in ml.
heya mate! firstly a huge thank you for these videos, and to helping people like myself trouble-shooting - super appreciated 🙏 I've just got an eos m with the August edition of Cropmood, but it won't record in 5K. It'll record about 1 second before cutting out, but it can record in 1080. Do you have any idea where I should be looking for this fix? My SD is Sandisk 64gb extreme pro 200mb/s Cheers again!
Hi, thank you mate. In 5k you may have to drop the bitrate to 10bit. Also, shooting in a 2.35:1 aspect ratio will also increase record time. This is all done in the Crop Mood settings...NOT in the raw tab settings.
Update for anyone who may be having the same problem (it happened again) Going 10 bit, upgrading my sd and downgrading my cropmood (from Aug edition to May) has fully done the job 🙌
Admittedly I don't understand much about the EOS M. But because advancements such as Crop Mood are still being achieved, might one day it be possible to shoot 1080p without moire and aliasing? Or is that impossible due to physical limitations? I've watched the videos about how to lessen or avoid moire, but I'd love to know from a technical standpoint that someone resolved the issue.
I don't think it will be possible to avoid it in 1080p because it's the hardware that's causing the issue. This is where you have to choose what resolution can serve you better. Although the aspect ratios of Anamorphic modes might not suit your style...5k and 5kfrtp have very little crop so are a good alternative to 1080p.
As usual a great tutorial! Because cropping with film or video cameras is almost never done in camera--it's done in post--I've always used 16/9 when using "1080" mode. But now we've got a release where cropping is a big deal. What I would like to know is what is GOAL of Crop Mood? What changes are made to the image (pros/cons) in each of the 3-modes. And, is one doesn't choose a setting, what binning mode is used?
@@Altcine I'm still would love a simple reason why anyone would shoot in "5k" when it and "1080" both offer minimal crop (full-sensor readout) and both provide almost the same true maximum image resolution. In fact "5" looks softer!
The cropping is no different than before in the old builds. It still crops in but on a lot of modes you couldn't get a proper live feed on your viewer....you'd get like every 4th frame which was like viewing stop motion. To me that only made it useful for shooting random stuff and not anything meaningful. Yes, 1080 & 5k have little or no crop but because the difference in the way they're recorded 5k gives a little to aliasing. So yes it's softer but you do get a "cleaner" image. Some people swear it's sharper but that isn't the case in any tests I've done but it's nice not having that 3x3 binning and getting very little artefacts.
Will this 10% increase in heat become a problem for those of us that still have unmoddified eosms. And... the newer faster cards are slower? I hope this Is something that can be fixed.
Hi, it's not really a problem as it's still within the tolerance so you shouldn't have any problems unless you live in a very hot climate but yes...the unmodified m does run a little warmer. With the M-Lite fan it runs much cooler, around mid 30's. Try it though as you might not notice any difference.
@@Altcine Hi mate. Sorry to bother you again. Im about to install Crop mood onto my card which had the danne build on it. i did a low level format like you recommended but for some reason when i go to copy over the new build it says "Are you sure you want to copy these files without their properties?". its exfat which worked fine before.. does it need to be ntfs or something? i can handle most stuff after this quite well but the intital installing of custom firmware always freaks me out as im afraid ill brick the camera. :) I got the install files from bitbucket. im guessing its the same as installing dannes version? cheers
@@Altcine i backed up the ml stuff before formatting it on the pc. Ive just copied it back minus the videos but ml didnt load up? i went to format it in camera and there was no option to delete ml only to low level format, which i did. ive done that, gone back into my pc to copy over the new crop mood files and its giving me the same error message about copying files without their properties.
You don't need the touchscreen, I never used touchscreen even before I turned my camera's into M-Lite's. You can do all the necessary controls with the camera buttons.
Hey man, I just got an EOS M for 50 bucks today and installed ML crop mood on it. I already have experience with ML on the 5D II and 7D. But on the EOS M I didn't manage to get the video playback (review footage on camera after shooting), I just get a black screen with the file count going. I tried fiddling with the modules but I couldn't get it to work. It seems that the raw_twk module should be the one to view the footage but when activated it completely freezes the camera when trying to review the footage and I have to remove the battery. I think there's not enough info out there about playback with ML, I couldn't find this info anywhere. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for everything you do
Hi mate, there must be something wrong with how you set it up because the footage plays back like it did in the Danne build. Are you sure you activated all the required modules? I remember seeing a similar post on the Facebook group
Hey can you help me out everytime I try to install it my camera says memory card containing firmware is required to update I’ve tried multiple different links and formatted my card in between every time I’ve tried to install it any help would be appreciated this is getting annoying
You download Crop Mood and extract the files. The extracted files need to be placed on the root of the memory card. Don't put them in any folders or just copy the zip.....they must be on the root.
Awesome 😁🙌🏾🙌🏾 happy shooting. And remember, the Facebook group is a very handy place to be. Lots of info by searching or fast replies if the problem can't be found.
Hi, I’m entering for the first time in this amazing world of video making, and I’m having trouble installing these versions of magic lantern ( I have an eos M). At first I had installed the original version of the program, but I didn’t understand why many of the options I see in the various videos on UA-cam were missing. Now I’ve taken off that version and I’m trying to put on Bilal’s, but I can’t. I have no idea how. Your videos are very useful, I hope you can help me... A greeting from Italy
Hi, if you go to Bilals video and download from that link and follow his tutorial first...you shouldn't have any problems. The reason I haven't linked the crop mood build here is because it's important to watch Bilals video.
4/19 the latest build is 18/04/23 for Eos-M. There's 2 ways to install updates. Overwrite the files on SD card with new ones or do a clean install. For Crop Mood I'd suggest the latter.
@@Altcine ok thank you ❤️ please if you have eny link to the latest update of magic lantern for the 5d2 i need it cause in the site that 5k version have no links to it
It's cool 👍🏾👍🏾 thankfully people came through. I think it's over now but there's an interesting conversation over on the Facebook group about a more simplified version of mL for new user's or veterans who just want an easy to manage stripped down UI. Hopefully The Devs will consider it.
@@Altcine it's interesting that you say that, because I've often wondered about these arcane 'turn on small hacks' style options and I just think, why is this even a thing? How many people need to be able to access this option? Or 2/3rds of any of the options in the menu at all - I'll check it out!
That's probably down to the way you set it up. I strongly suggest you join the Facebook group and we will help you there. It's quite easy to set up but good to know the process yourself.
Yes the new Sandisk "200mb/s" is slower in benchmark. I always check all surroundings and set resolutions max about 59-60 mb/s ;] But sometimes i see 70 mb/s in rec ?
I think if you push it to max Res on 5k & 1080p you can see the rate rising. Hopefully as this progresses we will see the high rates we saw before. Personally I would love for Bilal to implement what ever way the data was being written before. That would make this super...SUPER stable.
@@Altcine Recently, I reversed the working mode, I record these +- 520s with +80mb/s with maximum resolution, because a better live preview and no errors despite the interruption :) (of course, when it's a short shot). But I forget that WB is not in AUTO mode.
What an indictment of Canon and others (are you listening Sony?) consumers have to go behind these people and reverse engineer their devices to get what they should’ve gotten in the first place. What kind of a world are we living in where consumers become the adversaries of corporations??
It's true bro! I understand business and models but it's kinda like Olympus with the em1 mk2. The camera has been out for years and all that time it was capable of phase detect at in video. They release it when they sold the company as there's no more gain for them. Yes it was kind of them but still a little shady.
Man, i'm new to ML, just bought EOS M. I cant understand 1 thing: you choose some of Crop Moode presets with certain resolutions and aspect ratios, but in RAW section there is different resolution and stuff.. should i ignore RAW tab settings when usin Crop Mood or ...? this ML is so weird sometimes:) please help
I’ve donated my EOS M2 to Bilal - really deserves all the praise, also Danne and Alex of course. Looks like I can finally shoot 16:9 aspect ratio in 5K and use my anamorphic lenses. Brilliant !
Ahhh bro that's so kind of you, that will help massively in development 🙌🏾
@@Altcine yeah it’s in Germany now with a friend, very hard to get it into Syria where he lives
Oh mad! Hopefully it makes it 🤷🏿
So these firmwares work on M2 to also? Not just the M? Also, isint 16:9 with anamorphic a bit counter intuitive?
No not with the m2 I'm afraid. When you export 5k from mlv in anything other than CDNG it'll desqueeze the clips for you.
In CDNG you have to desqueeze yourself but it looks great
Just finished that music vid session, I cant believe how reliable this new build was! I literally set it and forgot it, turned the camera on and off probably 10 times, recorded perfectly each time, didn't have to fiddle with any settings, my shutter stayed consistent, no crashing or pink frames. Basically I hit record and it did what it was supposed to like a real camera for once!
That is so awesome. Very encouraging to read this. I too find it very reliable
Mate, I'm gonna be bold and say to newbies to MLV: Watch this video first then watch Bilal's for deep dive. This video gives the simplest explanation of various modes and resolutions to get started quickly. Thank you for making and sharing this. Brilliant really.
Ahhh thank you so much. I can see why you'd recommend that as it actually helps explain what Bilal is doing in his videos.
Thank you so much.
This is beyond incredible! Been an EOS M user since 2012. Just tested and it is such an improvement over any previous Magic Lantern releases. Love the redesign.
Wow, you're one of the early users...way before my time 🙌🏾 it definitely is a massive improvement, it's great.
Wow this is so much better, I just had so much glitching and freezing before I almost sold my EOS M. This is amazing!
Yeah so much better. There were a couple of old builds that were super nice but Crop Mood does make things better overall.
Glad you didn't sell it 👍🏾👍🏾
IMPORTANT - FOLLOW BILAL'S VIDEO FOR INSTALLATION - I GLOSSED OVER IT!
Also NEVER under-expose footage. Test the limits and join the group for more tips on longer record times in higher bit-rate.
I also use the NEW 170MB/s card not the old 95MB/s version hence the slower write speed.
Focus Pixel maps are available now - bitbucket.org/bilal_fakhouri/crop-mood-builds/downloads/
Hi Leon, thank you.
Your request is probably approved already as we're very fast.
There is no quick guide at the moment but I've linked Bilals video in the info section and his is the guide to follow regarding installation.
Hope this helps
Beautiful 🙌🏾 I can feel your excitement. A lot of people don't understand why I still use the m but you know why....when used right it looks insanely good.
@@Altcine absolutely bro! Very very excited and passionate that I'm able to create with this especially when a cinema camera setup is so obtainable financially as I invest mainly in music.. so really really appreciate that this exists! And that I can help upcoming artists with there projects 🙏🏻🙂
@@Altcine The video linked in the description is "Build Walkthrough"... I don't see any install instructions
@@alessandrocardelli5291 get the new dannes build, it no longer needs a walkthrough.
Just install and it's ready to shoot. Facebook group has all the info.
Awesome! Thanks Collin and a huge thanks to Bilal, Danne and Alex. Remarkable work from all the devs. Bravo!
Thanks for commenting. The Devs are genius's man, so talented.
For anyone that can not record continuously for some reason with the Sandisk Extreme Pro 95 mb/s card. Try changing the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from the SD Overlock submenu by pressing the play button. After changing it to SDR 50, restart the camera to let it apply the new setting. Then you should be good to go for continuous recording! I hope this helped!
I finally did it...I put crop mood on the m lite😅 and I love it so far. I watched Bilals Video which allowed me to get all the basics done and I watched yours which you really helped with extending my recording time 🙌
Many, many thanks for this. It solved my problems. All of you associated with the eosm community are great !!.
Thank you so much for the comment and I'm sooo glad it was helpful 😁 I'm genuinely smiling.
Thanks man for this walkthrough, even though I've got my M running, your explanation of features helps in understand the overall process, hats off to you.
And l most say you are a great speaker, the world's roll of your tongue with great flow👍
Hey Rumi, thank you so much. I'm glad you're up & running and this is sooo exciting 😁
its amazing, came out just in time, i did a music video shoot tonight with crop mood 1080 mode and shot a couple hours worth of footage tonight.
Awesome bro, 1080 is a dream to work with. Do you see the difference in the ui? Is so clean now.
Hi sorry to bother you, I’m new to magic lantern and crop mood, but just to be sure if i’m understand how it works: normally I shoot 35mm on ff, but on an eos m if I run 4k for example I will need 10/11mm lens rigth?thanks in advance
Hi, yes the Eos-M has a crop sensor so you need to times the focal length by 1.6x.
If you want the same fov as full frame then get a wide lens or speedbooster.
So the correct sum would be 11x1.6=XX to get the correct focal length.
11mm will end up wider than 35mm so you could go around 24mm to get near 35 in UHD (UHD is in the 1x3 crop section)
If using the 1:1 crop modes for 2.5k, 2.8k and slightly above for the cleanest image then yes you'll need 11mm as the crop is quite heavy.
@@Altcine thank you so much! Ah ok, so i have to consider only the apsc crop factor(except for 1:1 formfactor)! Sorry but i saw your table at the beginning and i was in trouble with myself trying to understand!Thanks again
Hello, I am just starting to use the crop mod and it is a great job and a pleasure to use. You have to keep in mind that this is only the first version with the first fixes and it already works great.
Greetings from Poland :)
Michal Berlinski/MBFeniks :)
Hey bro, absolutely correct. It's a great start to an already impressive update.
My jaw is on the floor with this!! Can't wait to get stuck into it. The old ML problems I had, left my camera in the draw. I'll have to dig it out now.
Definitely give it another go. It's really good
@@Altcine also looking for good stabilisation device so camera footage isn't wobbly. In view of the fact that balance isn't my strong point. Lol. Any ideas? Cheers and thanks for this clip
Get an M-LITE 😅. Only the usual tips... heavier rig, camera strap, stabilised lens or gimbal.
You have put it all into words in a very comprehensive fashion. Even though I've had EOS M since over a year now with the SD card to install ML but I'm glad that I waited until now to install Magic Lantern Crop Mood..
Thank you brother. How's it going with Crop mood?
@@Altcine Brother, your videos have inspired me to install it now, otherwise I had doubts if I should or not. So I was seeing crop mood videos and listing down important stuff until I see this video for which I have written above message. Therefore, I should be able to tell my experience of crop mood by the end of first quarter. Thank you so much for asking though.
I've been testing it and it works great. i'm shooting 1x3 4.4k and I'm going to be taking my camera out to do some sports video shooting next weekend.
Awesome 😁 I'm glad a lot of people are having success with it 🙌🏾
i hope we can get stable recording without kill global draw on so we can shoot focus transition shot reliably
I'm sure a lot more development will be done on this. It's a very....VERY strong start.
thank u so much for that 1080p frozen frame fix man, i didn't know about it
No problem, thank you for commenting.
Very clear. Definitely some necessary info here that's missing from Bilal's video.
Thanks bro, really appreciate that.
Video quality out the jump amazing. I see the hardwork in this video. Wow 👏
Thank you my brother, I appreciate you big time.
Really love this video format, the crispness
My bro 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Excellent video - Thank you - Just subscribed
Thank you so much. Really appreciate it 🙌🏾
Looks like a nice improvement over previous builds... unfortunately I sold my M last fall, but I'm contemplating getting another one... ;)
Ahhhh man, please keep one in future...even if it's on the shelf collecting dust.
@@Altcine Haha, yeah, it's definitely on my list, but not the highest priority... maybe if I can swing the mod you did and once the new ML version matures a bit more... meanwhile I totally enjoy all your new content (and all the other M enthusiasts)! :)
Good to hear man and yeah...looking forward to the advancements.
Thanks. Great walkthrough. Interested to hear your Crop Mood experience with the Lite as well.
Thank you 🙌🏾 yes definitely give my feedback soon on shooting with it. I'm doing a documentary on the M soon so I'll be able to give a good test.
Cole's Explanation ♥️♥️♥️
My bro 🙌🏾🙌🏾
It is a fantastic build, very well done
Agreed. Great work
Thanks always collin
"Kill canon gui" that really come in handy!
Thank you, so glad you enjoyed it 🙌🏾
Best build ever!
Yep, it's fantastic
Thanks to magic Lanterns Devs, Zeek and you IMCE Im planning to buy my first Camera that gonna be the EOS M next month ! if someone can help with couples questions tho :
1. Can I output real time Raw video into HDMI into my computer ?
2. Can I still make photos with Crop Mood ? (I gonna be focused on videos but I like photography)
Also if ML devs or you for the M Lite need a sound engineer I can help !
You could make live Q&A and just live streaming sometimes :) like when rigging or cleaning video hardware or anything :)
Thanks man 🙌🏾
Hdmi output is very low quality.
Yes you can take photos.
Sound is my weak point and always looking for sound guys. Can we chat on IG?
Thanks for the video, Cole. Helped me with a few issues I was having. Cheers!
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it so much.
@@Altcine thank you!🙌🏼
Thx for the good information!!
No probs. Thank you for the comment 🙌🏾
Nice video! Thanks for fantastic the divulgation work, cheers!
Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated 🙌🏾
I know it's called crop mood, but is it possible to get full sensor read? Barely used crops on previous builds, except macro shots
Tbh bro, I can't fully comment on that right now as I really don't know. I think you can still get full sensor in 1080 but I'll have to ask Bilal.
Thank You man! I sold all my Canon gear, but eos M... Just left it as a little gem, it is no longer associates with canon for me, but instead with lantern community and developers. I wish all tech be open source code with free install of operating systems both on body and lenses with apps and add one, like on PC or smartphone. This old enclosed stuff is just bad
Miss watching your videos ❤
😁 I wish I could make more but too busy man
I agree.i can use it as a x cam .overr my bmpck and also my gh5
Definitely 👍🏾👍🏾
now I'm waiting for the crop moood, it will record in Braw directly!
Lol imagine if that was possible 😁
@@Altcine the prices would rise again, I could sell the eos m for 800$ 🤣
Yep 🤣🤣
I'm sure I just missed it, but I can't seem to find the source of the problem where my EOS M only shoots a couple of seconds, then stops. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Only some modes work well with 14bit so you may have drop to 10bit.
Is your SD card good enough.
Kill global draw
Hey , on my two EOS M's crop mood works great in 1x3 5.2k - but works continuesly only in 10Bit (12 or 14bit gives me few seconds of recording only) and also just in my case 192Mhz works almost every time, while 240Mhz NEVER worked for my for my 64 and 128GB Sandisk cards. one is 95MBs and the 128GB is 175MBs * but basically they are the same write speed cards.
Yeah unfortunately that's the way it is. Apparently the data is being read differently and it's very sensitive to light. Try dropping to UHD 14bit. It's a good option.
Love to see real footage shoot with it.
Yes sir, will do.
Just uploaded a video.
I have the older 95MB/s Sandisk Card in 32GB Version but it does not work for me even I setup my Canon 100D (SL1 with the magiclantern-crop_mood.2023Aug19.100D101 image) exactely with the same settings like you explained. It stops recording after 2 seconds. Are there any other SD Cards, which are better then the SanDisk Extreme Pro for Crop Mood?
Hey,
Is your card legit, is it really old?
The new SanDisk extremes will work providing you get a real one.
Even fakes on Amazon 😔
my huge issue with this is that i cant record in the same resolution as you, i have to record in the lowest one. anyone got a fix for it?
Bro you and Zeek made me buy and use eos m. For unknown reasons Zeek went silent, you don't do that Brother.
Hey bro, I'm not going just yet. It's a shame about Zeek though, so much has happened since he went silent.
I have an issue, where in photo mode (dial set on photo), whether using ML or not, the shutter won't work with autofocus lens…I have no clue why this can happen, I have tried all focus settings, I can't get the EOS M to even single AF on a subject, so I'm stuck using autofocus lens in manual mode, in photo and in movie mode. I mainly shoot with the manual 7artisans 25mm1.7, but have bought a used EF-M 15-45mm specifically thinking that I could use it to autofocus, as a way to speed up point focusing (not constant focusing) rather than using Magic Zoom each and everytime. Is this a know issue, especially in Photo mode? I get that in Movie mode, ML might not have yet accepted autofocusing lens, but simply taking pictures should work using Photo mode. Any ideas?
This + bilals video is all we need I fell. How did you change exposure? Just turning the wheel?
Thank you so much, great feedback 🙌🏾. I am using a manual lens here but you can change custom buttons in
MAGIC LANTERN MENU
PREFS (Wrench icon)
CUSTOMISE BUTTONS.
@@Altcine thanks! I also mostly use vintage lenses so I just change the fX then. I am quite need to filming in general so the eos m really forces you to learn alot :)
Vintage is the way to go, they just have an unbeatable look.
It's good you're willing to learn on the m. Stick with it because every camera will be child's play after. Not just shooting but you'll learn so much about raw, codecs & containers, grading, bit depth.... everything.
Respect 🙏🔥🔥
🙌🏾🙌🏾
Do you know if it works with the m50?
Thanks and keep up the great work!!
Thank you.
Unfortunately it doesn't work with M50. There was some progress a couple years ago but it died
I know this comment is a bit late, but is there any new fixes to MLs rolling shutter? I have a video Im trying to salvage where the subjects warp constantly because of the 34ms readout speed. it would be a great camera if I could find out how to get rid of that.
I doubt there will be any improvement to rolling shutter. You should try GYROFLOW. Brandon Li has a great recent video on it and it might solve your problem.
My menu settings don't look the same nor act the same to button presses.
You must not have activated all the modules
Very informative! 👌👍
Thank you Wilson 🙌🏾
Make a crowdfunding campaign and build a mirrorless video camera from scratch, with Magic Lantern software.
So is 95 mb/s the fastest card option overall? Does it improves with 100-300 mb/s card or not?
No it doesn't improve but people have reported some fast speeds with some v60 and V90 cards.
I am a beginner who just bought the Canon eos M. How do you change the exposure to make the red camera turn green when recording? I got the recommended 95 Sandisk extreme card. Thank you!
There could be a couple things causing this but there's very little information in your post.
Resolution, aspect ratio, bit-rate etc without that info it's hard to guide you.
Also depends on the card....is it old, real or fake?
Head over to the Facebook group and we will help you.
@@Altcine I think I may have got a fake card! I ran the benchmark on my card and it only has about 20 mb/s of write speed. I just bought a Samsung EVO Plus 256 gb 130 mb/s (white casing) SD card which will work well with the EOS M according to the ML discord. I will play with it more and see what happen. THANK YOU FOR THE HELP! I learned so much from your channel! Love from LA!
@@yingtianfu excellent. Unfortunately there's lots of fakes around.
The Samsung card is very good, I tested the white one and it works well.
Take care 🙌🏾
@@Altcine I figured out what the issue was! My Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s 128 GB card worked well after I set the AccessMode from SDR104 to SDR50 from SD Overlock submenu. I was then able to receive a write speed of 76.2 mb/s according to the card benchmark. But anyway, thank you so much for trying to help me! I learned a lot from your channel!
@@yingtianfu ahhhh yes, I forgot about that....and that's in one of my videos too 😅
I installed Magic Lantern on my EOS-M and never really got into it. It was just too cumbersome to use for video.
But maybe this is what I needed.
I hear that, the first time was a bit of a headache but it's so much better now.
2:12 LOL, potentially cos a lot of us are here on the cheap.
Real talk 🤣🤣
Hi, Thank you for this video. I don't have any "SD overclock" option in my ML menu...
Thanks for commenting. You should definitely have it! You sure you got the right version?
@@Altcine That's fine now, I have it now, sorry for that.
@@Altcine Another question, I can't view my recorded videos on my EOS M screen, for playback, is it normal? I can import them in the MLV app on my laptop though.
Ahhh damn, there's a very simple fix for this but can't remember what it is. We we're discussing this with someone else about a week ago. I thought it was because the person didn't activate mlvplay but it turned out to be something totally unrelated.
Go to the Facebook group, the answer is there.
@@Altcine Thank you. I left FB years ago but I will join back just for this :-)
I'm not seeing the 1080p option in Crop Mood 3x3. Only HFR presets (like 976p in 16:9). How do I see 1080p ?
Which build are you on? Try the new danne build as it's easier to navigate
Thanks very much for this video! I have had my EOS-M since it was initially released. I remember it getting quite a bad rep due to its "slow" autofocus and also it being an early model mirrorless camera, but look at it now! I apologize for the newbie question but how are you correcting exposure on the fly while recording? I have looked at customize buttons but that did not help. I am in manual mode for movie recording using the 18-55mm kit lens.
Yes it's insane what it can do now but I'm more impressed that you've had it since release 😯
I'm using a manual lens here. The only way to do it on electronic lens is with an Nd but you probably knew that.
Thank you 🙌🏾
@@Altcine Thanks for the super quick reply! I had my suspicion you were using a manual lens and honestly thought there was a way to do this for electronic lenses or adjust this on the fly but I will look into the Nd filter. After this crop mood release, I'm really starting to head down the rabbit hole wondering how I can shoot great footage for an upcoming family event. So now I'm looking at cages, gimblals, lenses etc. A lot to parse through, do you think something like your red komdo build would be appropriate? Thanks again.
Well there is one way you could achieve it but it's using iso. I wouldn't go higher than 400iso and it'll be noticeable in the video.
I understand that changing aperture would be preferable but it's not possible.
If you want to do the iso way, let me know.
The M-Lite is really designed for productions and whilst it does offer many benefits it's bigger than the tiny m. Watch any Komodo run/gun video about rigging & gimbal and the M-Lite is pretty much the same deal.
@@Altcine Thanks very much I appreciate your help, I will take a look. I'll stick with the ND filters and try that out instead.
can you record 12/14bit video in any crop mode without time limits, or other problems with sd cards etc (except 1080p) ?
Not all in 14bit. Some will only do 12,11 or 10. But seeing as it's raw data it's great.
Привет! Скажи...1. Какими кнопками ты меняешь экспозицию во время записи? 2. Почему у меня все время стоит авто iso, как его выключить?
Hopefully you're in manual mode and you can change your iso in the canon menu to 100. You should now be able to change it in mL or by setting up custom buttons in ml.
I was using a manual lens and changing f stop
@@Altcine senx bro.✌️
heya mate! firstly a huge thank you for these videos, and to helping people like myself trouble-shooting - super appreciated 🙏
I've just got an eos m with the August edition of Cropmood, but it won't record in 5K. It'll record about 1 second before cutting out, but it can record in 1080.
Do you have any idea where I should be looking for this fix?
My SD is Sandisk 64gb extreme pro 200mb/s
Cheers again!
Hi, thank you mate.
In 5k you may have to drop the bitrate to 10bit. Also, shooting in a 2.35:1 aspect ratio will also increase record time.
This is all done in the Crop Mood settings...NOT in the raw tab settings.
@@Altcine Thanks so much mate, I got the fix with a combination of this and upgrading my SD to 128gb Extreme Pro Sandisk. 🙏
Update for anyone who may be having the same problem (it happened again)
Going 10 bit, upgrading my sd and downgrading my cropmood (from Aug edition to May) has fully done the job 🙌
Any tutorial on installing magic lantern with crop mode ,should i be careful in installing magic lantern? Will it brick my phone
The links are in the info section and I guess there should always be a warning but I've yet to hear of anyone bricking their camera.
How do you get this canon rehouse kit now?
Not available at the moment but filmatura are doing another sales run this year.
What is the dynamic range of the Eos M?
12 stops
Admittedly I don't understand much about the EOS M. But because advancements such as Crop Mood are still being achieved, might one day it be possible to shoot 1080p without moire and aliasing? Or is that impossible due to physical limitations? I've watched the videos about how to lessen or avoid moire, but I'd love to know from a technical standpoint that someone resolved the issue.
I don't think it will be possible to avoid it in 1080p because it's the hardware that's causing the issue. This is where you have to choose what resolution can serve you better. Although the aspect ratios of Anamorphic modes might not suit your style...5k and 5kfrtp have very little crop so are a good alternative to 1080p.
As usual a great tutorial! Because cropping with film or video cameras is almost never done in camera--it's done in post--I've always used 16/9 when using "1080" mode. But now we've got a release where cropping is a big deal. What I would like to know is what is GOAL of Crop Mood? What changes are made to the image (pros/cons) in each of the 3-modes. And, is one doesn't choose a setting, what binning mode is used?
@@Altcine I'm still would love a simple reason why anyone would shoot in "5k" when it and "1080" both offer minimal crop (full-sensor readout) and both provide almost the same true maximum image resolution. In fact "5" looks softer!
The cropping is no different than before in the old builds. It still crops in but on a lot of modes you couldn't get a proper live feed on your viewer....you'd get like every 4th frame which was like viewing stop motion. To me that only made it useful for shooting random stuff and not anything meaningful.
Yes, 1080 & 5k have little or no crop but because the difference in the way they're recorded 5k gives a little to aliasing. So yes it's softer but you do get a "cleaner" image.
Some people swear it's sharper but that isn't the case in any tests I've done but it's nice not having that 3x3 binning and getting very little artefacts.
Will this 10% increase in heat become a problem for those of us that still have unmoddified eosms. And... the newer faster cards are slower? I hope this
Is something that can be fixed.
Hi, it's not really a problem as it's still within the tolerance so you shouldn't have any problems unless you live in a very hot climate but yes...the unmodified m does run a little warmer.
With the M-Lite fan it runs much cooler, around mid 30's.
Try it though as you might not notice any difference.
@@Altcine Hi mate. Sorry to bother you again. Im about to install Crop mood onto my card which had the danne build on it. i did a low level format like you recommended but for some reason when i go to copy over the new build it says "Are you sure you want to copy these files without their properties?". its exfat which worked fine before.. does it need to be ntfs or something? i can handle most stuff after this quite well but the intital installing of custom firmware always freaks me out as im afraid ill brick the camera. :) I got the install files from bitbucket. im guessing its the same as installing dannes version? cheers
Hi mate,
Please do the low level format on the camera. It also gives you an option to remove ml. Make sure the box is ticked.
@@Altcine i backed up the ml stuff before formatting it on the pc. Ive just copied it back minus the videos but ml didnt load up? i went to format it in camera and there was no option to delete ml only to low level format, which i did. ive done that, gone back into my pc to copy over the new crop mood files and its giving me the same error message about copying files without their properties.
Are you using windows or Mac? That sounds like a pc problem.
Try downloading the files again.
Wonder if the AI can help perfect things even more?
It's possible. I know people are using chatGPT to get parameters for cleaner footage in Resolve
Is it useless now if my touchscreen not working? I cant completely view other infos or mode in my ML. What should i do.
You don't need the touchscreen, I never used touchscreen even before I turned my camera's into M-Lite's. You can do all the necessary controls with the camera buttons.
@@Altcine thanks . But my record time was 5secs only. My sd card is 128gb. How to extend more record time?
There's a lot more information needed. I'd suggest joining the Facebook group as we've been discussing that for a few days now.
@@Altcine mie is choppy.. why was that?
You may have downloaded the wrong ml, maybe the wrong settings...tbh I'm not entirely sure.
What SD card are you using for this build?
I have the SanDisk Extreme pro micro 400gb. My write speeds were quite low in this video but much better now.
@@Altcine Thanks for the swift reply - new to the game, and the 2nd Avenue of rabbit holes have opened up regarding memory cards.
Hey man, I just got an EOS M for 50 bucks today and installed ML crop mood on it. I already have experience with ML on the 5D II and 7D. But on the EOS M I didn't manage to get the video playback (review footage on camera after shooting), I just get a black screen with the file count going. I tried fiddling with the modules but I couldn't get it to work. It seems that the raw_twk module should be the one to view the footage but when activated it completely freezes the camera when trying to review the footage and I have to remove the battery. I think there's not enough info out there about playback with ML, I couldn't find this info anywhere. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for everything you do
Hi mate, there must be something wrong with how you set it up because the footage plays back like it did in the Danne build.
Are you sure you activated all the required modules? I remember seeing a similar post on the Facebook group
Hey can you help me out everytime I try to install it my camera says memory card containing firmware is required to update I’ve tried multiple different links and formatted my card in between every time I’ve tried to install it any help would be appreciated this is getting annoying
You download Crop Mood and extract the files. The extracted files need to be placed on the root of the memory card.
Don't put them in any folders or just copy the zip.....they must be on the root.
@@Altcineohhhhh okay thanks a bunch I’m gonna do that now
@@Altcinejust did it and fixed my problem thank you
Awesome 😁🙌🏾🙌🏾 happy shooting.
And remember, the Facebook group is a very handy place to be. Lots of info by searching or fast replies if the problem can't be found.
Any more info on newer memory cards? Should I get a Sandisk extreme pro 200mb/s card or buy the 170mb/s one?
Both should work fine.
@@AltcineExcellent, thank you so much for all of these helpful videos and for answering all our questions! 🙏🏻
Anytime 🙌🏾
Hi, I’m entering for the first time in this amazing world of video making, and I’m having trouble installing these versions of magic lantern ( I have an eos M).
At first I had installed the original version of the program, but I didn’t understand why many of the options I see in the various videos on UA-cam were missing.
Now I’ve taken off that version and I’m trying to put on Bilal’s, but I can’t.
I have no idea how.
Your videos are very useful, I hope you can help me...
A greeting from Italy
Hi, if you go to Bilals video and download from that link and follow his tutorial first...you shouldn't have any problems.
The reason I haven't linked the crop mood build here is because it's important to watch Bilals video.
@@Altcine nevertheless, he doesn't explain how to install the 4/19 patch to the 4/18 release so there is confusion in his video.
4/19 the latest build is 18/04/23 for Eos-M.
There's 2 ways to install updates. Overwrite the files on SD card with new ones or do a clean install. For Crop Mood I'd suggest the latter.
Man taking shoots at the fundraising. Facts though😂😅
Lol damn right! Giving is fundamental to human progress.
Pretty sure I have a fake SD card bc I cannot get most of these settings to work beyond a few frames before crashing
Maybe. Did you triple check the installation process from Bilal's vid?
@@Altcine fake confirmed. Just came back with a new SD and I'm in business!! Working beautifully. Appreciate you!
Beautiful 🙌🏾🙌🏾 I'm so glad to hear that.
can I record 60fps ?
Almost, about 57fps.
About to drop a video using slow motion so check it out tonight.
Have all installed but still only see that canon menu with the 4 arrows not ml...help me im crying😢
The camera needs to be in manual video mode. Push and hold trash can button to enter ml and activate the modules in Bilal's video.
@@Altcine thx for the Response.. Problem is solved👍and thx for your Videos very informativ good Channel!
Awesome man, glad to hear it. Thank you so much 🙌🏾
Can we get this for the 5d2 ??
Not yet. There was some talk of a port happening but I haven't heard anything lately
@@Altcine ok thank you ❤️ please if you have eny link to the latest update of magic lantern for the 5d2 i need it cause in the site that 5k version have no links to it
@@PitStopPioneers ask here and with any other issues you have
m.facebook.com/groups/mlvraw/?ref=share
hi there man , do you whats happened to Zeek
I had no idea about the donations and absolutely would have - is that a done deal or is there some mechanism we can go through still (like a Patreon)?
It's cool 👍🏾👍🏾 thankfully people came through. I think it's over now but there's an interesting conversation over on the Facebook group about a more simplified version of mL for new user's or veterans who just want an easy to manage stripped down UI. Hopefully The Devs will consider it.
@@Altcine it's interesting that you say that, because I've often wondered about these arcane 'turn on small hacks' style options and I just think, why is this even a thing? How many people need to be able to access this option? Or 2/3rds of any of the options in the menu at all - I'll check it out!
can you send me a working file, because the ones i download all seem to not record
That's probably down to the way you set it up. I strongly suggest you join the Facebook group and we will help you there.
It's quite easy to set up but good to know the process yourself.
Can you link up Bilal's video in the description or pinned comments?
Hi mate, yes it's in the description.
Yes the new Sandisk "200mb/s" is slower in benchmark. I always check all surroundings and set resolutions max about 59-60 mb/s ;] But sometimes i see 70 mb/s in rec ?
I think if you push it to max Res on 5k & 1080p you can see the rate rising.
Hopefully as this progresses we will see the high rates we saw before.
Personally I would love for Bilal to implement what ever way the data was being written before. That would make this super...SUPER stable.
@@Altcine Recently, I reversed the working mode, I record these +- 520s with +80mb/s with maximum resolution, because a better live preview and no errors despite the interruption :) (of course, when it's a short shot). But I forget that WB is not in AUTO mode.
Is this software crop mood free or a paid software
It's free now. A lot of us donated to allow Bilal to spend time on it.
What an indictment of Canon and others (are you listening Sony?) consumers have to go behind these people and reverse engineer their devices to get what they should’ve gotten in the first place. What kind of a world are we living in where consumers become the adversaries of corporations??
It's true bro! I understand business and models but it's kinda like Olympus with the em1 mk2.
The camera has been out for years and all that time it was capable of phase detect at in video. They release it when they sold the company as there's no more gain for them. Yes it was kind of them but still a little shady.
Man, i'm new to ML, just bought EOS M. I cant understand 1 thing: you choose some of Crop Moode presets with certain resolutions and aspect ratios, but in RAW section there is different resolution and stuff.. should i ignore RAW tab settings when usin Crop Mood or ...? this ML is so weird sometimes:) please help
The raw tab settings are not to be used in crop mood. Make all changes to resolution, aspect ratio and frame rates in crop mood section only 👍🏾👍🏾
@@Altcine thanks for the answer, all the best 😺