The High Cost of Deporting Parents
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2014
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As Barack Obama considers ways to enforce immigration laws "more humanely," VICE News travels to Guatemala to meet a deportee named Ray Jesus, who lives apart from his American wife and 5 American children. When Ray lived in the U.S., he was the family's breadwinner. Now they rely on welfare to get by. It turns out that deporting parents costs much more than the price of a one-way ticket home.
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CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN BECAUSE THIS CASE IS A DIFFERENT ONE. HE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO A US CITIZEN AND HAVE 5 KIDS AND WHY IN 22 YEARS OR WHILE HE IS MARRIED COULDN'T FIX THE IMMIGRATION STATUS?
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adnan iftiaz They said he tried and after years being held up in appeal court, he met someone, married and relocated. His appeals attorney lost track of him with vital info he needed and could use to press forward in his case. So he became another open case pending for deportation without knowing the final steps he could have taken to prevent it.
An amazing amount of these people, just like Ray made the same mistake. It's been pointed out again and again. They fail to report with their immigration officers. Fail to show up at important court dates. Till one day a brake light goes out or you fail to signal a turn. Note how Ray, despite running a business here in the U.S.. Failed to send ahead the most basic of tools. That would have made his life so much easier. Even when you know their deporting illegals . Why don't they plan ahead? A sad side note, his wife just waved goodbye, staying behind with 5 kids. Five children is 3 more than most families could afford. Smart people limit their family size. She could have worked. Hired a lawyer to help her husband. Traveled there to visit and bring him things. Give those kids a multi-cultural upbringing.
Juaquiene 77 you're shitty, like Ray's friend said in the video.
everyone Ray Jesus was allowed back in the U.S as a legal immigrant. he was reunited with with family sometime in april.
Bull once your Deported your not allowed back for 5 to 10 years!
You wish. I thought rapist didn't have a place in the government but look they fill up every seat.
I hope this is true and is the case. Where did you get this update
Melina and Sophia's Adventures it’s at the end of the video
Gary Mcguckin at the end of the video it says he was allowed back in?
Damn hommie had 10 employees, most small business owners will never reach that many.
Alex Mundo i owned a construction company in Alabama and I could only keep it running for 3 months. Owning a business is not easy.
I bet none of them were Americans, I hope he stays in his own country so Americans can get back to work
@Raul Salazar houston community college?
@Raul Salazar we will never know
@@truthseekersmedia
Fine, then he should take his business with him. Americans didn't build it, he did.
i feel his pain. after being here in the USA for 40 YEAR I beat my case and was able to stay with my family..
@Gusto Piv you clearly didn't watch the video
@Gusto Piv okay
I dont at 15 you damn well know right from wrong and if you cross the border illegally your by default a criminal the Government should focus on homeless citizen and poverty not funding foreigners.
@Gusto Piv if you do that Cartels Will take care of you
@@covfefe1787 in wich way, was the gov funding Ray, he was a business owner, and employed 10 people ,, he paid taxes, paid insurance all of it, more then any us citizen do, cuz most of you guys live on well fare and social security benefits.
Im viewing this in 2019 for the first time. Watched it in its entirety. Ray was a hard working, honest family man. couldnt stand to see this happen to his family. Thank gosh he got to come back to America. Welcome home Ray. Its a little late, but doggone it, you made it. Welcome home.
@Christigoth You need jesus
@Christigoth you are a disgusting peice of shit. You are a fake Christan and a hypocrite. When did you family migrate to America. I bet you sure a shit they didn't get a background check when they did. American is made of immagraints and thier descendent's. But because they are not white you look at them as criminals. But I bet you have committed a crime sometime in your live or maybe a family member you love has. So maybe they should be deported too. Just because your mother shitted you out her putter on this land does not make you more American then this man that came to America with nothing and made a life , probably better then the one you have by the way.
@Christigoth YOUR NOT a real American. Your country this country was founded on imigrants you dipshit
@Christigoth nobody is trying to "invade" anything just looking for a better life, a life of not bieng hungry and making somthing of life
@Christigoth The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34
You should read your bible more often..I will disagree with your opinions about Jesus not liking immigrants. Trump has influenced evil in your heart or you were just born with it. That train of thought IS NOT the walk of our savior
What I never understood is why does the US government not allowed illegals to work but has a way for them to pay taxes? Don’t play both sides
exactly. they play both sides. i don't understand that either.
Vince H How do illegal immigrants pay taxes if they are undocumented ?? Because they get money taken from their check being exploited by farm owners and other companies because they know illegal immigrants won't complain about low wages and being taxed out of fear of being deported maybe ? Basically "undocumented illegals" put themselves in that situation and it's easy to blame America because and Trump because illegal immigrants don't understand the politics and economics of America because they didn't go through the classes to become a citizen so they are ignorant to how things go sadly.
Vince H Haha so basically you're saying that they should be treated 100% fairly. You act like they should just get the benefits without any negatives
Vince H they do, you’d be surprised how many times the government looks the other way when it comes to illegal immigrants who pay taxes, illegal immigrants make up a big part of the cheap labor force in America (food industry, agriculture, etc) in this case they went after the wrong person and it sucks so much
because they lower wages thats a fact. i have worked in construction for 20+ years. in that time there has been a massive influx of mexican labor taking jobs that otherwise hard working Americans would have. dont tell me well if a migrant can take you job thats on you. no its on greedy businesses who looooove illegals
I'm going through the same thing I lived in the us for 23 years I'm 24 now living in Mexico...got no criminal record got my high school diploma...got picked up by the immigration going to work
You wasn't born here so you don't have no birth tificate so of course they're going to get you out of here you not official... I'm not saying that to be rude I'm speaking facts
Illegal is illegal maga 30/20
@@dantechilds9866 youre right, its all bs tho hunh?
ICE shouldnt even exist, its a waste of tax dollars.
@@braddavis8655 the whitest name ive ever seen feller. White people made that definition. Easy for you to say that when your ancestors tailored it specifically for little timmy right hairs lol
Brad Davis trump is losing right now since he’s a shit president dosent know what to do under pressur
Deporting 1000 people PER DAY? That's so much money, no wonder America can't afford public healthcare 😩
Thank you. Like seriously! Now you guys get it. It's also why our schools are underfunded.
They lose more to keeping them there
Not even the close to the cost of healthcare
And yeah it’s costing us a lot to deport them so we should tax Mexico for not controlling there people
@@southernrailwayfan1338 What happens to them if they don't pay?
Ray was sent back home! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼his miracle came true.
Thiz make me ZO estrong twocontiniun
Finely gooooodnews
I hope this is true!!! Welcome HOME Ray!
Link?? There's nothing I can find.
Natalie Cabrera link
I hope VICE news do an update of RAY 'situation, because this video was five years ago.
yes please an update!
@Raul Salazar you are taking the piss mate
He is back in the U.S.
@@emanrodr2736 How do you know?
Sergio dude watch the end of the video he is back
If they're not criminals, and are hard working citizens that want to pay taxes why would we want to eject them? It seems like Ray is more American than most people I know.
we just want a peaceful life.. simple as that.
Weren't your German forefathers barely legal here at one time? I'd accept any freedom and liberty loving person that pays taxes and obeys the law in my homeland.
If it was so illegal we should have tanks and drones patrolling the border.
*****
The Europeans thought they were above respecting (Native) American laws, and they were because they had power. Those illegal immigrants, if they have power to remain undetected, also have the same moral justification.
Who owns the land is a very subjective question: does it depend on who arrived first? Does it depend on who is living on the land in the present? You can see it either way, and whenever you have a subjective question like this, whoever has power can say they're right. Choose which rule to cite selectively to suit yourself.
In the end, it ain't no legitimacy vs. illegitimacy question at all. Behind the thin veil of legal mumbo jumbo, is the ancient brawl between salvage chimpanzee alliances over who gets control of the fig trees.
***** yah, a KID, came to America and he should have had that knowledge of everything that was going to happen, right? I also don't believe you even know the process of being approved to come into America. And to end my comment, I repeat what Doe John said lol beautifully said, homie. Bitch gon' get quiet, QUICKKKKK. No comeback for that shit lmfaoooo!!
How about you moving to their country and take their job because they sure want to take yours (and leave you and any kids you might have permanently without a job). Chinese are paid 25 cents per hour and that is what the pay here will be when this population is doubled by immigration. I would begin practicing a low subsistence lifestyle now, if I were you.
The government is literally a James Bond villain in this case.
“cOmE iN LeGaLLy”
*He tried to come in legally*
Gets deported
He didn’t try to come in legally…he came in illegally and a church applied for asylum for him. If he had tried to be legal, he would have applied from the other side. Nope, you come in illegally and your case is denied, you go back.
"tried" yes. Not everyone who applies for it gets accepted.
He snuck in like a thief in the night, if these illegal would stand up and change there country from the inside out they would be Patriots but they refuse to make their countries better, can you imagine if Patriots during the Revolutionary War had accepted British rule how America would be today , not the country it is today
let's just deport the bad apples and make apple pie with the good ones. this guy was an entrepreneur, contributing the the US economy. WHAT A SHAME!!
Moé Ramirez
Just go to another Spanish speaking nation. What gives you the right to come in illegally?
Bobob: what gives you the right to be an American? What actually have you accomplished. Maybe we should deport people who don’t contribute to our country
illegals don't contribute to society
@@Vincent-pd9vo yes they do I'm an illegal in the u.s and i contribute a lot more than u lazy americans who dont wanna work a 9-5 so u guys stay under a bridge begging for money lol
@@im9777 you really want me to report you to the border patrol?
This really makes me appreciate my family more and more.😔
@Raul Salazar He's looking for the criminals
@Dizzy he is looking for anyone who isn’t legal he doesn’t care if you have a criminal record or not
@Raul Salazar He'll probably get you because of your spanish name tbh.
@Raul Salazar Hey, what part of Texas are you from?
AHM-e Rudeness he got deported and good riddance. If you break the law and get away with it you will do it again
Wow, this hits you right in the feels, he seems to be an straight up dude, hard working. It's unfortunate he got separated like that
I was so saddened about Ray. That before I finished seeing the entire video, I was overwhelmed with sadness for ray. HOWEVER, turns out Ray was let back into the USA. RAY IS THE A GENUINE, HARWORKING RESPECTFUL IMIGRANT WHO CAME TO AMERICA AND MADE IT. GODBLESS YOU RAY
his wife passed away
What a beautiful ending, I am so glad to see he got his fast miracle. Little did i know when i began to watch this, how much in common I have with this man.
CAPTAINNEMO - I've been a anti-poverty volunteer since the 1960's. Ray is the kind of person who would be able to help his OWN homeland become more technologically advanced & prosperous. There are a couple of BILLION "Rays" around the world. HOW MANY "Rays" do you want this single nation to provide for within our own borders? 100 million? 500 million? My organizations help industrious people, like Ray, create "a better life" for their families IN THEIR NATIVE LANDS. Seriously. Is that not a more compassionate "solution?" Seriously. PS - I've asked this HOW MANY question from numerous people encouraging mass immigration; never got an answer. Are you willing to provide an answer? Thank you.
Martha Mack helping other countries isn’t a fucking piece of cake there are countries where it is hard to help because of corrupt governments and gangs
@@mjcamck seperating a man from his life of decades and his children is not a compassionate solution for a millisecond. If you think it is, there is something wrong with you. The intervention needs to come before he arrives, help people develop their own country so they wont feel the need to come to the US. But kicking them out once they have already built a life a business and a family there is just flat out wrong.
I am the son of a deported parent and can tell you the loss of my dad when I was 21 was a massive financial strain on my family and forced us into poverty. I understand this issue very well. its now been 24 years later and trying to fight to get my dad back home.
Shouldn't be a fight . Illegals that break the law and invaded our country should be permanently deported.. there situation is of no consequence
May god bring him back home
My prays
Then just don't do illegal immigration .Every country has those laws .You have go in as a legal immigrant paying money ,filling forms ,getting health checks and stay legal until u become a citizen if not go back where u r citizen .
@@serenesrn3827Then you could've legally filed your complaint to your majesty, Great Britain, without immigrating to foreign land and being labeled traitors to your Majesty who has supplied you food, water, and land to live on.
@@blobbyagain What are you talking about ?
Wow. I. Had. No. Idea. Thank you for this enlightening documentary. As I was watching this I was praying for Ray and I'm so happy to hear he got his miracle! I would love to hear how he and his family are adjusting now!
22:02 when she saw the new house owner kids playing outside the house then she started crying ,i realised that nothing is ever promised and what you call mine may be not in yours tomorrow, so enjoy the moment and love yours cause you could lost it at any moment .
well done documentary, gets ya right in the heart.
Don’t you mean your wallet? And your countries culture,sovereignty,your constitution,your children’s future, guess you never heard of the plan for one world government using mass migration as weapons of change.
Luke Smith Fuk your heart, follow the damn laws can i just break into your house and live there.
@@andreanacalhoun9454 it's sad how y'all hard core Americans base your morals off of the laws 😂
Navarsh TTD Can i just break into your house, can i just take your money or your life simply because i feel like it?
@@andreanacalhoun9454 you can't compare your home to a country and the illegals work for their money they dont take it. It's also funny that they dont have a way to make hard working illegals the ability to easily turn legal but they make it available for illegals to pay taxes
My dad was deported and banned for 25 years when I was 11. Im now 22 and haven’t seen him since! We speak daily but damn I haven’t been the same. And tbh, him being deported and taken from me was the reason I was the way I was as a teenager..
Your dad broke the law. I don't know about your mom, but apparently your dad was illegal. You were educated on the US taxpayers dime, right? Did Mexico contribute anything for your upkeep? You talk to your dad everyday. Angel Mom have children in the grave. Zero sympathy for your dad.
Incredible reporting vice. I knew this was happening but the human face you put on it. I lived in that area of Utah for a while, it just made it that much closer to home
but they would take his tax money wtf
swear gets me mad
Michelle Reyes yep and it makes me happy knowing he paid for his own deportation....Merica'
Michelle Reyes So Michelle, he was married to an American woman and he had his own business going, so why did he not apply for his legal green card a decade ago?
Because, he KNEW that he was illegal ! And he KNEW that the marriage to an American would not cover him because he was illegal ! Marriage to an American only works when a person is here legally ! I do actually feel sorry for him because he IS the kind of immigrant that we need in this country. But twenty years ago he did not put forth the effort needed to gain legal status! Instead he ran off, his, and did make a life for himself and his family. He was found because he is an upstanding man and therefore visible.
I expect that if you drove six blocks down nearly any street in Los Angeles, that you would drive past a thousand illegal Mexicans who deserve to be deported far more than Ray but never will be ! Why? Because they are not upstanding men and they keep themselves hidden under the radar. THEY are the ones that we want deported. But they won't be.
That's actually not true. The immigration process is extremely complicated and varies depending what country you're originally from. I use to intern for immigration offices. It's crazy complex.
Also, my husband has papers even though he was brought here illegally as a child. You don't sound like you know too much.
He came here illegally, spitting on our laws. HE should be lucky we don't treat him the way Mexico would treat him.
Really wtf they should not be taking his tax money. They should be taking his ass back to his own country. Do you know what Mexico dose to illegals?
Sad Shit, all those numbers are people with lives and families. fucking sad world man.
SPLENOROUS SAD racists to
My parents came here from Guatemala and I visited when I turned 18. The drive from the airport to the Pueblo my parent grew up was like a 8 hour drive as well. Beautiful mountains and beautiful culture.
In so happy for ray that he got to finally be back in the United States with his family! I am glad he got his miracle! I wish many blessings to you and your family ray!
This is so sad, it should be criminal to rip apart families like that. the US needs to seriously reform its immigration laws.
No one is saying his kids can't go with him. He has no right to be in the US.
Stranded in Utah yes he does! he has a right to be in the US! he is married to an American citizen, has kids, has a house, has a job, and has a family!
Lucy Lee He did most of those things after there was a deportation order out for him. He made a family knowing he was here illegally and could be deported at any time. He came here illegally and then selfishly brought others into his life who would be hurt by his activities. His actions were the problem. Before he married he should have gone in and taken care of his status he didn't. He caused a lot of pain with his actions.
Stranded in Utah he did try to take care of his status and while it was pending for 10+ years he made a life for himself and his wife. What was he supposed to do, wait around for those years not meeting anyone, not having any friends?
Stranded in Utah im sure you can feed your kids with $5 a day you dip fucking insensitive shit .
Casey is a Strong American woman...God bless.
+Omniscient 1 haha race traitor really dude ? insecurity much lmao
+Omniscient 1 your the disgrace! with your "I'm the superior" mind set smh
Professor Logic I wonder how the native Americans felt 🤔🖕
She just passed away this week from cancer and leaves her 7 children she is my aunt 😭❤️
I’m so glad he got to come back. Should do an update video VICE.
my friends dad was deported 3 years ago, and all he has every done was work to make a good life for his family, its honestly really sad and upsetting because he was the definition of a productive person in society
If he was married why didn't he apply for a citizenship?
BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE RUN FOR NOT SHOWING UP FOR HIS ASYLUM HEARING . THAT JUST DOESN'T GO AWAY BECAUSE YOU MARRY AN AMERICAN .
They never do and then when they get caught it's someone else's fault
ron stewart Well then his lame ass should have shown up for his hearing. You idiots do not respect the laws of this country and thats a problem. Would you pull this shyt in china or russia i doubt it!
He had a JUDGE ruling for deportation. (A judge has the highest power in the usa)
FIRST step he has to be deported or leave. In order for the deportation to disappear.
Second . He has to apply for LEAGAL entry in the USA .
THIRD. he qualifies because he is married in the USA. As long as there is no criminal record.
He knew all this before he had family.
But had a family any way. Because it's a faster process when u get caught. Other wise it would take 10 to 15 years.
Believe it or not the process takes 2-3 years all get approved if there is no criminal record.
The last time I asked my friend was because he wasn’t going for that. It’s love and not for interest.
YES! RAY GOT BACK HOME TO HIS FAMILY!
demrifnoC itanimullI how you know
demrifnoC itanimullI ... If he’s back in 🇺🇸 I will find him have him deported back again I work with ICE !
call me mr Tom Reagan toxic lol 😭😂🤣
@@callmemr.thomasreagan1157 do u live in your mom's basement too, like all ice workers?
Mygo Gomy .....🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀
If you choose to have kids, while still being a illegal immigrant, thats on you.
If you know you could still possibly be deported, you having kids is choosing that one day you might have to leave them.
You shouldn’t get to stay illegally just because you have kids.
This one touched me , Ray went from living my life to lugging wood with his head and being so far away from his loved ones , I'm glad he's back home with his wide and kids
I hope he helps his mom now that he knows how hard she has it . Gosh I cried so happy ray went home this story broke my heart
This guy had a family, a business and was even employing people, it doesn't make any economic sense to deport him.
It makes perfect sense. He is an ILLEGAL ALIEN. What part of illegal, he broke into this country, do you not understand? We don't reward people for breaking our laws. If you were caught in Mexico illegally they would lock you up for years and fine you thousands. He's lucky all he received was deportation.
Because America hired this f rice pay them a lot of money to pick up the illegals that are not good people but rice don’t want to deal with the illegal gangster si they pick the decent quiet working people. They should abolish rice
Try this reason on for size. He's a damn criminal and should be deported. That's why he got deported because he's a criminal. There are many successful criminals look at all of the drug lords in the areas that he comes from.
Nazis dont think
@@drpk6514 I guess the fact that he was a criminal law breaker doesn't matter to you, does it? He got what he deserveds.
Watching this now in 2020 breaks my heart. At the end, I'm glad vice news gave us the update that Ray's going back to the U.S. to his family.
You need to do an update episode of this!
This is one of the most hardest topics to talk about and sad.
This was so fucked up
How so?
BP TV He went from having his perfect life to back in mexico and should have never been deported since he is married !
+Eboney Nicole But he is not Mexican lol
+Callaghan Zen he is from guatemala.
Callaghan Zen Lol i watched this a minute ago mybad
The end of the video almost made me cry, so happy he got to come back home
That was just painful to watch! I can’t imagine going through what he’s been going through! A established business owner & a good family man. The American Dream. Unfortunately, our laws & court system do more harm then good sometimes! I hope he can make it back home. We love to have him back!!
.! border the across sneak Don't
Could not go to sleep I wanted to cry but I am so happy Ray is back with his family.... Be blessed Ray look we'll after the family you have
he did so off the backs of the American tax payer.
This was heartbreaking to watch. 5 children without their father's love and affection...there's another social cost. Godspeed Ray.
Americans who go to jail can't see their kids, he has been in this country long enough to get his USA CITIZENSHIP he sent money back to his country which should be taxed if an AMERICAN CITIZEN goes to another country Americans are expected to follow the laws of other COUNTRIES AMERICANS need a passport to be in their countries FOLLOW THE LAWS OF AMERICA AND BECOME A USA CITIZEN PLAIN AND SIMPLE, MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES SO YOUR WIFE AND KIDS CAN COME TO VISIT THE DEPORTED
@@mamawazzwazz2014 imagine deporting the good immigrants only ahahahaha
you shouldn't get angry at the guy who he flees his homeland to come to a completely foreign area just so his family can survive for not paying taxes...
im willing to guess that you listen to the people with power/influence/wealth who use vulnerable people like him as scapegoats while they, their donors, and their families/friends make off like bandits....your anger is misdirected.
@@mass.worker5986 Well said
Do you ever think the Angel files and they price they paid?
So glad to hear there was a happy ending to this story. There’s still so many others that didn’t end so well. We need to open our eyes
JUST FINISHED THE DOC and I am so stoked he got his mericale I'm crying hahaah. Love yous all.
Hang in there Ray. Blessings to you and your family
im pro control and regulation on immigration. But the immigration dept should also be more efficient and try to investigate case by case. This man is a good guy. Productive, honorable citizen. We just dont like criminals or freeloaders. It is a very complex subject.
Ko Jones The only criminals and freeloaders in the US are the inbred scum waste known as Trump Voters.
They deport people who came here as kids
Speak english went to highschool pay taxes
But they give visas to people who
Cant speak english
Wont go to school
Want welfare
Ko Jones
Doesnt matter he is illegal and doesnt pay taxes
Golden Goddess
His taxes are in the fucking video
Never treat anyone this way. God is watching. I hope Ray and his wife can pick up the pieces and still make it. They are a beautiful family.
R Wallace - The wife and kids can always join him. If it were that important to them, they would move. The family being separated is completely their choice.
MyAvatarTablet 2 what you said is the most idiotic comment I read on this thread.
Eydis Herborg Kristjansdottir - Life is all about choices. If the wife and children choose to stay where they are, instead of joining him, then he is not as important as where they are.
Henri Picardo - It's also true.
Still ignore the fact that they are law breakers. Would you feel the same way for a bank robber who robbed just to feed his family?
I am so happy that this genuine and hardworking Man gets back to his lovely family 👏👏👏 I hope you are all well and safe. Rays’s please looks after your beautiful wife and your adorable kids. ❤️❤️❤️ God bless you now and always 🙏
Absolutely heartbreaking. I hope you all are doing well and have gotten back what you all deserve.🙏🏻
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THIS GUYS AND IS FAMILY BECAUSE IT IS SAD.
Organik Nordaz he's an idiot, he had 20 years to get his shit together and he didn't give a shit
people make mistakes, but I guess you're so much superior than everyone else.
What about the American's who's job's they took.
Feel sorry for them.
which jobs?
The Wall of Trump yeah what jobs?? If an illegal immigrant, with no ability to speak English, crosses a border with nothing but the clothes he has on his back can "steal" your job then your must a idiot. And most of these jobs are businesses they make on their own or shit jobs like working in the fields and cleaning houses. Can't blame them for having good work ethic and blaming them for "stealing" jobs that some American born citizens are too lazy to do. So no no one took these jobs they are just too lazy to get their asses up and work hard
The problem didn't start with America deporting this man, it started when he came to this country illegally. You can't pick and choose who gets the law applied to them and who doesn't. Everyone should be treated equally, regardless. Its a sad story of course, but he brought it upon himself and his family.
he didn't ccome in illegally you obv didnt watch or your just to dumb and cant listen
this hits too close to home my father left last year for mexico i haven’t seen him in a couple months...
“Why? What did I do?” It’s not what you did homie- it’s whAt you didn’t do- go to your court dates.
man I got emotional as fuck
Tony Blair im going to Guatemala in mid January...Damn, me too.
That sucks papi, vaya con dios.
Daniel Osorio me too
i dont blame you..you have a good heart.
Andrew Jighunter The man wasn't relying on government money. He had a business.
Great doc Vice you've done it again!
san pedro soloma is where my parents are from! this is heartbreaking with everything happening in 2019 what is a wall gonna do... nothing.
Vice News, your stories are wonderful, so personal and educational. Please keep them coming!😃
I've never had a story hit so close to home ❤ breaks my heart seeing what these outcomes of these law would've been
Immigration has existed during the whole history of humankind.
Yes! Thank you. Migration!
Tom fer It is migration before there are countries. Then it becomes immigration which means that there are laws to follow ! This man Ray did have a process that he could have followed to be in the U.S. legally! Instead he seems to have said, what the hell, I'm here now and married to an American ! But, the immigration law still applies ! He had a process available but he did not take it. He now now must follow that process with a deportation on his record !
Donald Miller did whites came here llegaly whenthey killed and raped the Indian answer me that question you hypocrites
+Elf Gracia ...thank you!..now whites make these shity hipocritycal immigration laws...toilet paper!
Juan B. So Juan, are you saying that you are from a country that has no laws ? Also has no borders ? Because there has to be law in order to have borders ! All other countries have immigration laws ! But you think that it is wrong for the United States to have immigration laws ? Why is that ?
There are so many wonderful people in this world who care about others thank you guys you sorry for someone that you don't know and all the best wishes for them families to stay together absolutely nice people
I started my immigration process after 30+ years. Fear paralyzed me. The fear of deportation. Now I'm documenting every step to help those that were scare of the unknown, like I was.
@mVP I appreciate your words & support
There are a couple of things this didn't mention. The Ice officers refused to let Ray hug his autistic son who ran after him and wouldn't let go of his dad's leg. His youngest son just turned 3, and he barely knows his father. Kacie moved the family to Guatemala last summer for a couple of months to be with her husband, but the lifestyle was very hard on her kids and they had to come back so the kids could go to school. He was deported as a part of a big sting operation here, and nearly every immigrant who went to renew their driver's license were deported. But I am happy to say that Ray has his visa in hand as of today and is on his way home!
Wow! thanks for sharing that!
howd he end up getting it?
They've been working on getting his Visa since he was deported. His wife has had to go to Guatemala several times for paperwork and legal proceedings. They were kind of terrible and kept making excuses why he couldn't get one, but they're lawer finally got it all worked out.
I hope one day we can understand that we come from the same planet and the borderlines have been created by human stupidity
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Real fucking communist of you! How about you sleep with your house doors open because we are all humans, how about you let everyone use your car your showers your food because we are all humans? Borders or walls are created to protect what we have worked hard to obtain (a sense of security). America has worked to be a rich country, now everyone south wants to come in and just take take take. That's why we have borders to limit who comes in and out.
***** I knew he was American as soon as i saw the first line, bigotry at it's finest. I don't get why people like him just pull the "You're a commie!" card every time someone provides an argument that is different from the way their country runs. It's fucking 2014, Communism is dead, get over it.
Vader Skies After reading all the comments here . I got to say this has to be the stupidest one yet Vader Skies.
***** Thanks for this comment bro. Some of the comments here are so stupid. I strongly agree with you on the fact that if your not Native to the Americas than you yourself are an immigrant. The Mexicans and the remaining Native Americans are the true Natives of the Americas.
Damn this is a very sad doc !! I'm glad one family got their man back but there is still the other needing to get back to his family
I’m beyond sad for this man ! 😭
I don't understand how he paid taxes, married a us citizen worked 26 years and could not become a citizen?
sherry eagles didn’t wanna pay for it, you gotta pay for immigration, it’s not free. We paid $5,000 or more for my husband’s immigration from overseas which included interviews and medical exams and going back and forth to the consulate cuz it was in a different city. These people from central Amer want everything for free and not to be deported.
People become complacent with their status. He probably figured that after 2 decades he was fine without becoming legal, why spend $10000 or however much if he does need to. BOTH of my parents were illegal immigrants. They both works hard and my dad got his boss to sponsor him, they are both now proud citizens of the U.S.. My dad bleads red white and blue and drives around proudly with his American flag on display on his truck. This country is amazing immigrants need to learn to appreciate it and assimilate
He seems like a nice Guy But He Didn't Take Care Of Business. He can only Blame Himself for His Situation. Personally I Would NEVER Marry Anyone Who Wasn't A US Citizen.
It's not that easy for people from latin American countries. It took my parents almost 13 years to get papers. All while spending thousands of dollars and already having paid taxes while being in the states.
@@ms.lolitagore5822 That's crazy because I dont think anyone who wasn't a U.S citizen would want to marry you either!
I like how this is in 2014 and everything these people have been saying about how it's not as bad and shit but it's 2019 and it is just as bad as people have been saying lol
it's worse and that's what sucks.
@lora 1111 were all just humans trying to find our way. No matter a Democrat Republican illegal alien or facist. Release the labels and call it as it is, the human race. That's why we have so much destruction going on lately here, so many labels for things that shouldnt be labeled.
Excellent documentary!!! Well done! I learned alot.
They got my dad too When I was 16 ever since I’ve Survived In the USA 🇺🇸 Do to immigration I was born here My father Is a Goodman That they they broke my family down but Know I’m In Vegas Working
So the law doesn’t apply to your dad? What about all the people who try immigrate legally? They should wait in line for years while your dad cheated the system? At least you got to be born an American with a free education. Why do you have to complain about everything?
You could always go to Mexico.
How come Mr Reyes never fix his papers?
@@DaRyteJuan The education here is a joke lmao , imagine being fed lies about how great america is LOL
rodrigo angeles At least you can read and write. From there you can do everything else. Just open a book.
If anyone is wondering what the piano piece at the end was, that was Chopin Waltz op 64 no 2.
You are right. It is Chopin's Waltz in C Sharp Minor #7 Op 64. No 2.
If you're here illegally, too bad. Either come legally or get the hell out. Too many of them are on the government dole, burden for hard working Americans.
I was expecting to see ballet dancers.
I wasn't. I was more interested in the opening music.
sjhtrueblue Most of the people living on the dole are fat white trailer trash heroin fiends.
I am feel sorry for him, Que Dios te bendiga amigo, ,lo siento ,Que Dios bendiga tu familia
FREE OUR KIDS/PEOPLE🙏🏼🇲🇽🇲🇽
WE ARE NOT ALIENS!!
The Left Hates America oh yes sir tf I am how am I “not welcome” here THIS STOLEN LAND stoopid clown 😹
TTX_Twisted IDGAF abt ur opinion lmfao we work illegally bc there’s rlly no other way and we cross borders for a better life for family and we’ll will find a way to cross we ain’t lazy mofo. Who does the lawn who builds houses and does construction right exactly HISPANICS/LATINOS/MEXICANs we have mouths to feed! We aren’t lazy. Also without us America wouldn’t be as powerful as it is now 😹keep ur negativr coments and move along dumbass 😘🤡🤡
TTX_Twisted AND yes it is stolen do your research baby bc Idk where you got your false information from 😹😹😘🤡
TTX_Twisted And I personally DONT want any money or help from the government bc Ik I can work my ass off 😹baby and not every Hispanic/Mexican wants or gets help bc we know how to work educate ur self maybe??
Citlali Araujo-Gomez that don’t matter y’all keep coming with children and babies thru the desert risking their lives it would be better if y’all could get stoped and make your own countries great how you claim Mexico if you prefer to live in other country
This story hit really close to home, too relatable 😔
If we had just enforced our laws from the beginning none of this would be happening. We need to start enforcing our immigration laws.
Broadcast, you make to much sense. How dare you tell our elected officials to enforce existing laws.
See, when they don't like a law, they would sooner tell us its broken.
You can't blame the Illegals. They know our leaders are pussys, just looking for reelection votes.
And we trust this government to make sure the refugees are not more bad guys?
this is near and dear to my heart ...I hope soon enough my dad can come back ...he's not a bad guy ...I miss you dad
Serina Medrano where is he?
James Russells People like you... haha
James Russells ignorant narrow minded people like you are why this country has not progressed
Mariela Nicolas yeah, our country hasnt "progressed" because its being flooded with people who just mow lawns and paint houses. what do you think, theyre gonna end up pioneering the tech and medical fields? lol!
TheCompton1963 hes in tj :(
For this who SEE THIS my aunt the mother passed away this week from cancer it happens so fast! 😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
So happy ray is finally reunited with his family ❤️❤️
he asked himself what did he do? I will tell you he made a poor choice he decided to break the law and take his chances all well knowing this day would come and could happen... He thought that if he could marry a American woman and that would lock him in to be able to say and he was rolling the dice thinking he would win. He was only thinking of himself instead of what would happen when to his kids when they finally would catch up with him and he is taken away and his kids are left without a dad. These immigrants all think it will not happen to them that once they come they can stay or won't be caught. this story is severely slanted as well when they describe the costs to the tax payers. They never once mention what the actual costs in 100's of ways if we where just to open the border and let a flood of immigrants just stay or come here. that costs would be a 100 times more than 12,000 dollars per illegal. Our nation would become a 3rd world country in a matter of 5 to 8 years. Americans lifestyle and earnings and way of livin would change and no longer be what it is right now if we where to allow them all to come across the border. The population would just soar to 4 times what we have now most don't even have a concept of what kind of impact that would have on our America lives. People are so bleeding heart about a few rare stories like this guy. Is it unfare? a bit as the guy is not a criminal or a tax evader or bad guy or more than anything a person who assimilated to American values and standards but he is the very rare case and that's partly because he was in Idaho where there are few Mexicans or Latins and married a white woman. 90% of the other illegals do not assimilate they are not like this rare one guys story. I hate when they media paints this rare heart bleeding story when it's the rare case as most of these types of true stories are not like this mans but of illegals that don't pay taxes "All of them" and do not assimilate or learn American values and lessons and beliefs. No most take advantage of the system and are taught by others to do so and get as much as they can. think you pay a lot of taxes now or pay a lot for health care wait till you open the flood gates to the boarders then you will see all those costs go up 4 times what they are now and you loose your jobs and your cheap college tuitions go up 4 times what they are now. There are always a few people that get burned a bit like this guy did but for every one like him there is 600 or 700 illegals that are doin the opposite of what this guy lived and did. Vice told the story of this one guy that is a rare example or case all to get a bleeding heart story to get viewers and attention as it sells papers. Vice does not tell te whole story of the costs of illegals and the impacts to our county vice only tells the saddest case and rarest case so they can get a audience to say "Awwww" because it gets them ratings... booo on liberal vice totally slanted half truths and non full story coverage... by the way I am Latin... not white.. And a republican and on the of Americans that can't have more than one kid because they can't afford them because we are to busy paying for this guys kids that he left behind to live on welfare all because he choose to "START A FAMILY" well knowing he could be deported at any time because he was a illegal the whole time he was here for 20 years. He just gamble with his wife's life and his children's lives which was selfish. Now he is upset he lost the gamble he needs to take responsibility for his choices...
he married her because he loved her and not because she was american.
you also mention that there is a dark side to illegal immigration, i will not deny that there are people here with bad intentions but then there are people like me that were brought here as children, i went to school here, i work and pay taxes. my life is here in the u.s, everything i have is here and i have nothing in mexico.
you also speak like you understand the subject of immigration very well, trust me you don't, there are a lot of people like him in his situation but something tells me you wouldn't really know about that. when you meet someone like myself you'll understand there is another side to this that the media doesn't portray; not even in this documentary.
jairtzinio Yes your correct there is a side that was not portrayed by your comments above and also by Vice and its this one clear point that you need to ask yourself. That question is to look your parents in their face in the their eyes and ask them why they brought you over the border knowing good and well that this day may come when they deport you or when you are in a fender bender and get found out and are deported. You ask them what where they thinking your parents? Did they think that it was going to go away that fact that they broke the law and know it could come back to haunt you and them? Its not like its rocket science to figure out. You break that law and a serious one at that and that one day they may come knocking on your parents door or your door... Just because it takes years for that to happen does not make it any less illegal... What your parents did was illegal and when you do illegal things especially ones this bad your bound to pay the piper one day and you have no one to blame but your parents.... Want to be a man go to your country and try to fix your country and while your at it do so without having 5 kids that you can not support. Because I can not afford to barely have my 1 son and cant afford to pay for all of the ones you illegals keep having...
RViscara you shouldn't forget that a great deal of Americans here, are here because their ancestors came here. they were the first true immigrants here, never forget what they did to the native Americans just to live here
I agree with your comments. For every single illegal that attempted to assimilate like this guy there are probably 10X or 20X that many that do not assimilate. He took his chances and failed..he never imagined that this was going to happen to him but it did...He broke the law and is now paying for his initial actions.
jairtzinio
They are still doing it to them as I type this! What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Ray man congratulations on making it back home brother I'm truly happy for you my man I hope everything falls right back in place
Can u link that story?
It was actually nice to know that Ray got to be with his family at the end. But i cannot imagine what it would of been like to have clean and running water to chopping wood just to survive to cold nights.
16:05 nothing but my greatest respect for this man.
They should take it case by case.. not just deport everyone ...most important is that kids do need Both of their parents... ruining a family will come around and bite them in the ass!!
I'm glad he got his miracle!!! If you're. It a criminal... haven't done anything criminal in the USA, got a family kids... he even employed 10 people... why not just let him stay????? Fucking idiotic laws!!
eugene dron kids don't need both parents, they just move on
and yet when he's deported his 10 lazy american employees can't help run the company???
J Calhoun , A criminal?? you piece shit!! the man did something with his life he came to this country and had his own business going. I see a lot of ours citizens wasting their life doing drugs and stealing money to support their dirty habits not doing jack shit with their life, living out of our welfare system. So you tell who's the criminal? the ones that contribute to our society or the ones that don't do shit other than live out of the tax payers money.
Dago Perez You are very correct. We do have a large number of born citizens that should be taken out to a deserted island and dumped there ! They are a worthless drag upon our country. This man is a good man who unfortunately is an illegal immigrant !
And it is not just the United States! I know of a couple from Canada. The man is a citizen of Canada. Married to his wife for more than three years. She was in Canada on a temporary visa when they married. And she never applied for citizenship in Canada. That visa expired about three years ago. A few months after they were married. She should have applied while she was still legal ! Now, they are living in China while she is applying for a marriage visa to Canada! Yes ! She was deported by Canada even though she was married to a Canadian because she was in Canada illegally ! In Ray's case he could not apply because he was illegal from the very beginning ! He should be able to apply for a spouses visa except he and the Chinese woman both have a deportation hanging over their heads. The Chinese couple ? They are expecting the process to now take so long that they have purchased an apartment in China! The smartest thing for Ray to have done was return to his home country and then apply for a spousal visa . And thus with no deportation on his record !
I didn't see Ray getting angry with anyone over his situation. From what I gathered is that he knew he had broken the law and he was trying to make the best of a difficult situation. I'm sad that his situation turned out that way and I'm heartened that he was legally able to be reunited with his beautiful family. Everyone makes mistakes and by Gods grace we are forgiven. It is only right that when we make those mistakes that we accept and deal with the consequences with fortitude and grace the way Ray has AND when someone has dealt with those consequences it is only right and just that the rest of us give that person the second chance and forgiveness they've earned. I pray that Ray and his family have many beautiful years ahead in safety and security and little worry. 💕
Migration isn't a mistake. Migrating is in our DNA, it's natural to want to travel or move to a place where you can provide for your family.
Back then it was illegal for different colored people to marry, but it was law, so its like you saying he made a mistake to marry a white woman, he did nothing wrong in the first place.
Chapin, qué bueno. Estoy a la orden para lo que sé ofrece.
The Same thing happened to me exactly three years ago now I'm in 🇯🇲 ,not a day goes by that I don't think of my kids, I miss my three babies every single day 💔😔😢😢😢😢😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
"deport legal and illegal immigrants..." LEGAL?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loud Sprinkles What a fucked up government it is eh?
yea people that have had a green card for too long
moron
How did he own a business if he was illegal that don't make no sense he could come back but but the right way
I'm assuming under his wife's name and SS
@@octapeter3129 that wouldnt work though if it was under her name she could run the business he has but she said she cant so its under his
Different states
@@octapeter3129 yes indeed her name and his license. Needed them both to work it!!!
OK.. Just saw his business partner... Make sense now!.. 😂
I would love to know how he is doing today. Is there a follow-up report?
He is back in the states !
@@Anonymous-jf1th Wonderful news! May I ask how you know?
Thank you for this its prevalent to my present time in my life
He gets back in at the end
Which is a suitable happy ending every nightmare should have :)
no he didnt
yes he does...
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
Homeboy Chris my dad's been deported since I was 8 now I'm 17 years old and he's still not here
man i feel really sorry for this guy
can we get an update on this please?
Vice at its very best! Great video
Amazing video. Everybody should watch it from the begin to the end, thanks for sharing it.
He sent US dollars to pay for a house in Mexico, now he is living in it, just send for your family and live happily ever after!
If you're gonna deport someone at least let them take their stuff. That's just wicked.
No. Any ill gained assets should be seized! Illegal means Illegal!,
Congratulations Ray!!! Peace and blessing