"TF2 has far fewer moments of charachter building" yeah, maybe. But they are really powerful and only mocking quotes happen when you kill someone 4 Times in a row without him killing or assissting in your death. I think that it is actually a very good way to do this. The mockery happens very rarely, but when it does the lines feel original, unlike "I've been fighting trash like you for years". And then just one kill or even an assist on your dominator triggers your response, mocking him. It keeps everybody in good mood. Tryhards in a cocky one and noobs in a "haha, I got him! REVANGE!" mood. And everybody is happy.
I've never seen a reviewer who can deconstruct games as well as Raycevick, let alone PC first-person shooters. You know how to read between the lines and notice the subtleties in differences between games, and always make clear arguments about why these differences matter. Definitely my new favourite reviewer!
Speaking of the psychology, that's something that Respawn took into consideration with Titanfall 2: like with other competitive shooters, there is the concept of the Nemesis; however the way it works in 2 is that the player is complimented when killing someone who they are the nemesis of, but the voices over the radio never comment when the player is being dominated unless they kill their nemesis, in which case they will congratulate them on it with a line like "that guy sure deserved it".
Hello Raycevick, I've been following you for a while now and I have to thank you for everything you did. You might wonder what the hell you did for some random dude in the internet, well as I know (I am 18 since june 27th) my life as a whole was one whole downwards spiral. Your videos, although rarely I got to see some, are for me a way to get out of the stress and depressing thoughts in my mind. I started young with philosophy, never had many girlfriends except 1, two years ago, never had many friends, my parents to this point don't even know how deeply broken inside I am... I do not want to name details I just wanted to give you my deepest and honest thank you for making these videos and keeping me at bay from literally everything. (I am sorry for grammatical issues or false spellings, I am from Germany, so not a native english speaker)
Yes, Hilbertus ... Healthcare workers take care of our bodies and thank God youtubers like this give them something to watch when we get home, to take care of our souls (soul in Greek = *Psyche)*
This channel stands out to me for gaming He rarely screechs always informative and i genuinely like learning about games i have never played and some i wont ever and even more so about the ones i love
0:21 Holy shit that beginning Quote was ME. imgur.com/a/6O8ts Glad you expanded on my thoughts, minus the heavy, bad sarcasm. For the record, I would like to say that I really DO love the gameplay of Lawbreakers, and a lot of other games that I brought up, but having great characters/stories goes miles to make an FPS better, yet it feels like the only time that happens is in a more cartoonish/casual focused FPS like Overwatch. When Blizzard was hyping up Overwatch as an FPS with a high competitive skill ceiling, combined with a 'unique' art style and characters that aren't obnoxious (well, kinda), I was hyped, and after 200$ spent on getting into the beta very early, TWO preorders with the special skins, and over 800 hours in the game, I was crushed to finally accept that it really was just another casual shooter. I spent so long in denial, and so did many of the people I met while playing in the beta, they all just stopped playing because the game was clearly so focused on appealing to casual players. Which is fine, but it just sucks to see a game that had so much hype around it shoot itself in the foot by trying too hard to appeal to "all skill levels" instead of being a game that is great casual fun in a group, or an intense high skilled team game like Tf2 is. Like what would happen if an Arena Shooter had good characters and wasn't obsessed with the characters berating everyone constantly? Like copy paste Overwatch characters into Lawbreakers, thats just the dream game for me.
So instead of making a more casual class-based arena shooter, a market where no game was dominant, they should have made a more hardcore class-based arena shooter, a market where TF2 is very dominant, and also has an incredibly loyal fanbase. Why try to please a fanbase that already has a game they're super invested in? Why not try to instead tap into a less monopolized market for more profit? Can't really argue with the results...
Tf2 was dominant because it was the ONLY game to fulfill that trinity on the market, and Blizzard pulled the rug right out from under Valve once they realized Valve was getting lazy. Overwatch was incredibly popular even when people thought it WAS going to be a hardcore shooter, because it was the second triple A class based shooter with actually good looking design coming out in like 10 years, and it was shown at Tf2's lowest point, when people we're bored of the game due to lack of dev support. And yet a ton of people who we're expecting that hardcore shooter are now still waiting. (And when I say class based, I don't mean something like Brink, everyone reading this should know what I mean).
"During gameplay tf2 has far fewer moments of this character building" Im sorry Raycevick but i cannot agree with that. tf2 has hours of dialog for each class interacting with another one
Calvin_Coolage Theres also its dominations as well. The lines said from one class to another fits what is said in the video regarding the player character insulting the other player and their lack of skill. Unlike Quake Arena, the line doesnt play everytime you made a kill, but when you're constantly killing the same player over and over again. The pre battle one liners before a battle (plus the ones Casual Mode added within a casual match) also give a good idea of what your character is due to the fact some of them are able to go on for quite a while due to the fact that no one is currently trying to kill you. This kind of dialog can carry with you throughout a game, even if you dont know how to use voice commands. TF2 certainly did it diffrently from Overwatch and Lawbreakers do it, but its still rather neat and is a nice example.
My issue with TF2's dialog is the characters are too boring for the dialog to be interesting. Granted hearing Tracer and Mercy shoot the shit before the match gets lame because it's all exposition... But at least they have personalities that also go with their dialog. With TF2, the dialog literally is: The drunken man talks shit about how much of a wimp the Australian sniper is. Or how the builder dude is so good that the French spy can't destroy his equipment without him knowing. It's X talks about how Y [Enter verbs and/or contractions here] Z. Or they taunt eachother. Also the vocal commands like "go go go" follow the same pattern. Whereas overwatch has a world around just that one battle, or that one conversation. With one bit of dialog, you can tell that the sniper is a cocky Australian, and that Reinhart is a honorable german tank. However with two lines of dialog, you see that Reinhart is also a sort of father figure to the team. Each character has their own interactions with one another both in game and out. I think the game would benefit from more Uprising-related content, since that gamemode added weight to the dialog.What has TF2 done? What has valve done to improve the world around it? Not much. The best thing was Manco in my opinion. It's due to the player base not really caring about that, and caring more with loot crates, rare skins and guns, and basic FPS mechanics. I do believe in the phrase "If it's not broke, don't fix it", but in this case it's like a check engine light blinking. I would like to fix the problem if only to stop the light from blinking.
Last point is more important than you might think. No weapon grinds means there is no disadvantage to a new player other than the skill. There is no weapon that magically does twice as much damage etc. If you have skill you can own someone playing the game for 1000 hours.
Your last line hit the mark - "will leave them open to everything gaming has to offer". I'm 34 and have been an avid gamer since before I could read. That being said, my gaming in the last 10-15 years was limited to military shooters, GTA, and Fallout. After playing Overwatch, I really started to branch out while shedding the subconscious idea I had that somehow a game that wasn't edgy or dark was for kids.
One very important thing you mentioned at 8:53 or so that I think probably deserves more attention: Weapon grinding. One of the single best things about Overwatch is that 100% of the rewards are cosmetic. This means that every player has access to every character, every weapon, every counter, every niche playstyle that fits them, all from the very beginning. All they're fighting for is bragging rights, experience (in the learn-from-your-mistakes-and-git-gud sense of the word), and cosmetics. People can complain about the loot boxes all they want, but at the end of the day, I'd MUCH rather have cosmetic-only loot that a few people with money to burn can use to support the game, then lock entire weapons, characters, or other stuff that actually effects gameplay behind either a grindwall or a paywall. In this sense, Overwatch does have something in common with at least some of the arena shooters you mentioned, especially Quake and UT. Sure, Overwatch has "classes" in a sense, but since they all start fully unlocked at 100%, your ability to thrive is based on your skill, not the fact that you have/haven't unlocked the AWP yet. It's just that, in Overwatch, hero selection (which is really "counter selection" when you think about it) is part of that skill, whereas in the arena shooters, 99% of the skill is based on your ability to aim and to dodge, really.
Great video. I had been thinking on this idea myself, and I can't stop smiling about seeing what I daydreamed about at work so well analyzed on UA-cam. :D I'd also argue the best lines from Quake Champions reinforce both character AND the player. This actually is what drew me to my 2 favorite characters; Ranger and Slash. Ranger says things like, "When you're 20 feet tall and throwing lightning; THEN you can challenge me." And Slash, "It must have been mah birthday!" Both strongly reinforcing aspects of their personality or backstory.
I think the thing that sets apart Overwatch tonally from other shooters is the overall tone of positivity. It's definitely one of the biggest reasons I've stuck with it, while many others have fallen by the wayside. Nothing in the tone of the game, visually or in voicelines, is degrading or insulting. Instead it is generally encouraging, or at least neutral/tongue-in-cheek. In Quake, the enemy characters calling me trash, or otherwise actively tearing me down through voicelines doesn't feel good. It doesn't make me want to play better, it just makes me want to not play. Which sucks, because I love the game mechanically. And I totally understand that this is subjective. I've been fighting Major Depressive Disorder for years, and so super-negative or degrading tones in games stand out to me a lot, and it's just not an environment I want to immerse myself in.
Hey Racevick! Love your content, especially the QnA outros! Anyway, I think it'd be awesome if you could analyze mobile gaming. At least, possibly the bigger scale and the industry. It's very sad to see how mobile gaming has turned out today. Anyway, great video as always! Thanks man! :D
Great video! Keep up the great work! Your videos provide a side of gaming you don't see very often and when I watch they make me realize that games are not just skin deep.
Damn that was good. I love that you considered character lines as they affect the player experience. It's such a small detail with such a huge impact. I've gotta check out that book you referenced
I love overwatch because it's competitive and did a good job letting me learn the ropes. I love learning that new flank route, landing a one shot combo on a key target, and having my team tell me "ah good shit Gengo", but just of all I love the adrenaline when you and your team are absolutely steam rolling em. I find people I love to play with and work well with, and we climb the ranks together, learning more and more about how to better aim, better positioning, target prioritization. It's like the struggle of playing a fighting game, but there are no tournaments or uphill battles you HAVE to face to get better at the game. You have you, competitive, and a friendly game with occasionally not so friendly players. but you do learn
Wait, this is an actual concern? Given the sheer amount of work and practice required, the unforgiving nature of competitive arena shooters, and how a player just a couple of notches above you will absolutely cream you, the canned quips of the characters has to be the softest bullet you'll ever need to bite.
Marjan Pretty odd that people would take issue with that specifically when the maps, game modes, character balance, and eye raping HUD with no customization are all in a disastrous state right now.
It seemed like it was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek shooter when it was first revealed. However, in its transition to a more serious tone, it forgot to delete about half of that old style, leading to a bit of a mess in the game's style.
Yeah I get that. It's fair enough if someone feels like Overwatch is cynically designed to appeal to a wide array of people, kind of a miserable attitude, but fair. But at the same time Lawbreakers isn't all bro step out of artistic integrity, its style is designed to appeal to a particular demographic, and if that's not to your taste then regardless of the mechanical design the presentation is going to make the game wear thin. Plus like Beater said there are objective design problems right now.
Overwatch characters don't trash talk because it's playerbase has already surpassed CS:GO and LOL in their toxicity. I've never heard so many back and fourth insults at mothers, race, sexuality than I've had in Plat... I've given up on climbing, I've already heard Zenyatta players accused of throwing.. Overwatch, the happiest, most colorful and inviting multiplayer game has sunk from it's own success.... the human element of this game is garbage, I lose a little bit of faith in humanity when I hear someone utter anything on the mic in Overwatch. great game, terrible community.
wizzzer1337 I think that tends to be the end result of a larger community, as well as a push for competitive play. when a game had a clear competitive mode where you climb a ladder and try to prove you are THE best, it grows incredibly toxic because chances are the person is fucking pissed off for losing a game earlier. or if they are talking shit to the enemy team they are trying to get under their skin and make them perform worse. I really do truly believe if both LoL and Overwatch never made the big push to be a competitive E-sports title the community would have remained a hell of a lot more tame.
Actually had to stop playing it and go back to league because it was that bad. The worst part is the blame game is taking to a whole new level because you just start blaming the least liked hero on the team despite how well they are playing and call them to switch to something else. At least in league or csgo you can tell who really is playing poorly and you can't really try to micro manage them and they get more angry when they dont listen.
I think that the strength of OW's world building through it's characters is not necessarily in how playing a character makes you feel, like you explore in the video. For me (and I have issues with LawBreakers's appeal because of this), every OW character feels *distinct*. No matter who I'm playing, there is personality that - to a bigger or lesser extent - enforces gameplay styles (Widowmaker admiring kills the way players do in their highlight reels, D.Va being cocky when she absorbs an enemy ultimate, etc), and that makes the experience of playing a specific character unique within the game. And while it may not put the emphasis on competition the way LawBreakers or Quake do, I feel more invested, and I feel like I'm doing what I am supposed to do on that character. LawBreakers, for instance, does not have this kind of strong and different character design, neither in lore, nor in VA, nor in visuals. Whether I'm slicing enemy players in half with a grappling-hooking Assassin or blowing them up with rockets from a bulky Titan, the difference in gameplay isn't met in the character design. And while there may be some merit to this because LawBreakers doesn't have counters like OW does, it ultimately diminishes my long-term enjoyment of the game
Judging by Mister Vick's consistent choice in avatars, I'm sensing a theme here. It must be tough being a kawaii uguu when you sound like a thirty-year-old noir protagonist who gargles whiskey and gravel every morning.
Trackmania is by no means a casual game. It can definitely be played as such, but getting used to the ins and outs of the cars you're driving and the different types of road (especially on Valley, what you showed) takes a lot of practice. The very idea of the game is basing on practice - playing a track over and over again until you inch ever closer to perfection. TM actually used to be a pretty big esport back in the day.
I enjoyed the dialog presented in the video. The reason why is because it makes me think of shit I never thought about lol I do not know if it is because when I am in a middle of a multiplayer competitive game that I blank out and only focus on objective at hand or it doesn't really bother me, but I never quite notice the one lines characters say as you kill shit. Dam now even thinking about it, I never even put into thought that master chief in halo doesn't say shit. I guess thats why you have the narrator say shit like "double kill". I especially liked how you mentioned "Designing Games" as it shows that you are just not talking out of your ass, but actually put thought behind it. This is definitely a great video for someone to watch to understand and learn as to why developers create a product a certain way. Now I understand this analysis was just talking about the basic of "Fiction" as you had it pointed out in the video as the first step, but I believe that first step is always going to be the most critical one.
I think Overwatch does such a good job reinforcing the player with its excellent UI feedback (the kill beep, the skull icon, etc,) that it doesn't really matter whether the characters' voice lines do it for you.
>Indoctrination theory >Sad That Sonic fanfic of an "ending" is still better and more thought out than what Bio "I hate white people for being white" Ware put out. Nice video btw dude, always love your stuff.
I think the issue I had with overwatch was that the characters become a limit in themselves, with what you can do, when you defend place turrets at optimal spot with torbjorn etc. the games just felt like they always played out the same if not just super similar to each other
It seems like most people have completely forgotten why games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament worked so well as multiplayer only games in the first place (aside from the kick ass music). Both games had already an established universe to build on, with familiar mechanics, weapons, sounds, levels and so on. So even if you only had played a little singleplayer of Quake or Unreal, you knew enough to start playing multiplayer in Q3 or UT. Mods like CS, Team Fortress and Dota also worked for this reason, because they build upon an already existing world/mechanics the player was familiar with. Of course there is a limit to how long and often you can reuse something, before you have to reestablish your fiction. This is something I think they've missed with the latest multiplayer only games. A new Quake campaign done with the same level of care as the latest Doom campaign, could have been a great way to introduce new players to the universe and reconnected old players. Also, perhaps the most overlooked benefits of having a great singleplayer campaign as a foundation for a multiplayer game, is the different way you design a singleplayer game. Sure making a singleplayer game drains resources (assuming you put some effort into it), but it also provides unexpected benefits of having ideas, designs, environments, mechanics, physics etc.. you could use in multiplayer. Where lots of those assets, ideas and designs probably never would have been thought of, if you instead go in developing something with a multiplayer only mindset. As a result, great multiplayer games and franchises that also have a great singleplayer campaign often as a whole feels much more richer, and the experience more complete.
remember when overwatch was fun? they took out the fun out of both the competitive and also the whole goddamn casual queue on the game with just horrible seasons aimed only at high skill competitive.
Balancing the game towards casual players is what ruins games. that's why they added the most hated heroes ever, such as bridge dungfist and moircy so you can get a kill and be satisfied with your pathetic life. lol :D
Agree but I don't like that, I mean there is a really really big chunk of the Overwatch player base that it's there just because they like shipping or a specific character, and that makes playing with random a chore... Nothing wrong with that though, just saying that if you are there with a competitive mindset and your team is there with a casual mindset it can be very frustrating, this is why I am dying to find a good fixed team to play... Great video btw
Hey Rayce, just found found your channel and im loving what ive seen so far from you. Anyway, personally I'm a huge fan of character building in video games that I play and I also love multiplayer experiences that provide multiple ways to play the game, and various learning curves to accompany them. So overwatch doing both simultaneously is why i immediately fell in love with the game. Now, I haven't seen much from Quake Champions or even played it at all, but I followed Lawbreakers's development pretty closely, as its gameplay caught my attention, only for it to be shattered upon immediately hearing #you'redeadbro, as well as the lead developer being an absolute ego-centric jerk. Simply, i cannot fathom enjoying a mulitplayer game where every character sounds like a bunch of edgy teenagers , as compared to overwatch where you get character building and lore through eliminating certain characters as a certain character, or having two characters just simply be on the same team. Just felt like id provide insight as to why Overwatch garners so much popularity versus Lawbreakers
Great job man. The voice lines are really one of my favorite aspects of overwatch. I also really love how players have used voice lines and emotes to create brand new memes for the game. One interesting thing u brought up about lawbreakers voice lines which is true seems to be more insults than insight into teh character, I would also argue overwatch has a similar system via sprays and waving hello. Nothing is more embarrassing than being killed by dva ult and she disrespects u with the wave and spray emote in the play of the game or the infamous knocking someone off a ledge and waving good by to them. But the number one insult of them all that will make anyone salty in overwatch is the devil herself, Mei fuckin freezing you and then waving at you before headshoting you. That shit makes me want to flip a table. Ultimate disrespect.
Thanks! Cheeky sarcasm is quite the draw in Rocket League as well. There's a running theme at this point with my friend being tilted whenever someone uses the quick response "calculated" after a goal.
I think another important part of the fiction is the fact you shift the blame despite reality off your self. Whats brutal about fighting games and arena shooters specifically 1v1 is that you play the game and the reason you lost is solely because you were worse and ontop of it your only reward is a big you lose. In games like overwatch you have the ability to create the fiction that you aren't actually a terrible player.
Shadow Warrior is a singleplayer game yet I love it when I kill enemies and hear sentences like "You guys are pussies!". It fits to the main character and is amusing.
I grinded overwatch quick play and competitive for a total of like 150 hours on PS4 and PC. I have no drive to play the game anymore. The only reason I play it now is doing custom games and 3v3 with friends.
IDK what to make of this, and I don't have any stats, but just my observation played competitive CS:GO regularly for like a year or two and met like three other women playing? started playing overwatch a few months ago, been doing competitive, meet other women every other day seems to me like a lot more women play overwatch than CSGO i think it's cause of the characters, like maybe there's more there to fit different tastes? also i think the cartoony superhero vibe is less hyper-masculo-dude-bro than like army mcwar dude CSGO counter terrorists beating up iraqis kinda thing so i guess what i'm saying is that maybe having diverse characters with personal stories might make games more appealing to more people? i guess that's fairly uncontroversial, whatever
Comaleaf its more appealing since there are characters that take more skill than others. A good CSGO player can play a hitscan well, but a person with bad aim can play a support well.
I completely agree with this. I think what Blizzard did was they looked at the FPS genre as a whole and saw the same thing everywhere: the same uniforms, the same voices, the same guns, the same drab colors, even the same cookie-cutter characters. If it's sci-fi, throw in some blue lights. The mechanics were fine, but it's like when you listen to a good song for too long. It just gets old. A lot of people haven't gotten worn out from that apocalyptic/underdog super-soldier vibe though, and those seem to be the people who don't like Overwatch. The main complaint I see is "the characters are cartoony," and that's the entire point. That's a major reason why Overwatch took off so well. When it comes down to it, Overwatch characters aren't soldiers. They're superheroes with guns. It's supposed to be cartoony, over-the-top, with fairly flat characters. Captain America and Superman aren't exactly known for being super in-depth and three dimensional. Both are some variant of "there are people in danger and I must save them for that is what I do, moral high ground is my sword and plot armor is (usually) my shield." So when Blizzard says "Winston is a gorilla scientist that doesn't like being called a monkey," everything about the character is going to portray that and only that. And that's what makes Overwatch so appealing at first glance to so many people, and I believe that's why it's sticking around the way it is. It's colorful, and actually looks fun to play.
I have a 1000 hours on overwatch and yet i still enjoy the game very much. The game is just the most mechanically satisfying fps ever made. Dinking with Mccree, one clipping with tracer, tracking and deleting squishies with soldier, big grav with zarya, hog diffing and so much more that no other game can achieve. I would say it's the best multiplayer fps game of the past decade. IF NOT FOR THE FUCKING NEW HEROES AND SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELDS D':< !!!!!!
Using only Nyx is somewhat neat, what about Ranger or at least Blazkowicz since the former keeps looking for a slipgate which takes him back home for 20 years and starts losing his mind, but only a picture of his family keeps him sane. You can even hear it when he earns a kill or respawns. "Where the world has taken me now?" "For 20 years i've been looking for a way home, i am not going to quit now!" (Plays when you respawn after having your killstreak "Too much going on in my head...i can't focus!" In case of Blazkowicz he can be pretty cocky when he kills someone but at the same time keep you, the player, to keep going when you respawn. "Never give up." "Never give in to these people." "You're dead...funny" (Most likely after killing Galena) In case of Overwatch well, most of the characters have a weak personality. So far i only find Roadhog, Junkrat, Ana, Reinhardt and Torbjorn interesting.
Amazing video as always. Wish comments would talk about the topic instead of if they like Overwatch or not... You can almost feel how they are trying to spin the conversation -_- I prefer the character version of doing this tbh, I hate those "obliterated/you suck/wwowowow" sounds in games. It makes me cringe so hard instead of making me feel powerful/humiliated, I never understood why all TF2 servers have plugins to spam this bullshit over and over.
I for one welcome our new canadian overlords. Just kidding, but I applaud your ability to demonstrate the appeal when it comes to overwatch. I'd also add that a minor part of that appeal is not falling in the 3rd-gen stereotype people have with the shooter....but that's a whole other matter. ~The Monk.
That was awesome.Keep it up dude.One of OW's biggest problems is its community.You have an X reason that you dont like the game and you want to share it with others? Well good luck surviving all the attacks coming your way.It is just sad sometimes.
Not sure how I missed this the first time but great vid. Overwatch is coming up on another anniversary soon. Any interest in a "years later" for Overwatch?
*"During gameplay, TF2 has far fewer moments of this character building."* I disrespectfully disagree, and I am going to explain why. I'm not lying when I say that I am all-too familiar with Team Fortress 2. I've played for over 3,500 hours ( proof: https:/steamcommunity.com/id/cosbolt ) and can say for a fact that that the veracity of that statement is nonexistent. Even in my first few hours of playing Team Fortress 2 I notice how each of the characters are dripping with personality. Their voice-lines and domination-lines display so much of this, regardless of the comics or "Meet the Team" videos. For example, you can tell that the soldier, from just how he acts, speaks, and fucking humiliates people in-game has a lot of shit about him. *"You are the sorriest excuses for soldiers I have ever seen!"* *"You sissified maggot scum have just signed your death warrants!"* He is a warmongering lunatic, a complete xenophobe who hates all things enemy with a passion. *"Your white flag does not stop American bullets."* *"I am going to enjoy killing each and every one of you sorry sacks of scum!"* *"Words cannot express how much I hate France right now!"* Yet he displays a strong sense of honor, respect for the fallen, and a huge loyalty to his team. *"You were good son, real good; maybe even the best."* *"Godspeed, you magnificent bastard."* Notice how these are all *in-game* voice-lines (so many more) that build the characters with such fidelity that I've never seen in any single-player campaign, or even TV show or movie. Also, you just played a round of hightower and sawmill to collect the footage, your only frags you showed were on braindead or afk players 7:02. At least try to play the game a bit more before saying some horseshit like that?
if you haven't seen a character buildup on par with Team Fortress' in any campaign, film or TV show, that just goes on to prove that you haven't really experienced that many quality narrative experiences. This entire comment just comes off like an overtly defensive fanboy argument, really.
Don't forget about the fact that Overwatch matches you with players of similar skill level. TF2 didn't do that from the start, which is why you could have an m1+w gibus pyro and a market gardening 1000+ hour soldier on one team.
I'm not a huge fan of Overwatch anymore, but I always understood the appeal. After trying out the Open Beta for Lawbreakers, I loved the mechanics and the gamemodes, but the awful User Interface, the characters that are all pretty much the same, and that very "Unreal" look everything has is what's putting me off from buying into it. Excellent video again. Doubled my pledge because, damn that consistency in quality. (Apart from the psycholagy.)
Characters speaking during multiplayer is nothing new. Characters in Gears of War say various comments depending on the situation. Overwatch characters speak more, simply due to the fact that the game has very little internal story. Thus character speech, is needed for the characters to show development.
Overwatch is a pretty cool game that proves that you don't need a campaign in order to prove for a game to be fun. Besides, when was the last time core multiplayer gameplay focused around the campaign? It's fun to discover the lore yourself if you are interested but it is not essential to the gameplay. Also, I do not know why the characters are often criticized. They are most memorable and recognized when compared to other FPS characters; for example, Call of Duty.
I liked Overwatch a lot at the beginning, but 200+ hours later and I haven't touched it in months. Mostly because Blizzard is blatantly enticing people to buying their loot boxes by releasing limited time items for characters with rarely any pause for players to stack up the in-game currency and because it felt like all the matches became the same or similar enough to each other. The gameplay stopped being as rewarding as it used to be (which I'd imagine happened because I'm constantly matched up against people that play it on a daily basis while I play it casually with friends when the days and times align) and the loot boxes aren't carrying that weight, since most skins and animations are fun for a week or two at the most and then I just don't care.
No, that's just a part of it. I left because the game got boring, since reasons stated above happened and I didn't really feel like grinding for the handful of items I want among the thousands of voice lines, skins and sprays. Not to mention that the community is a toxic waste dump.
"I talk enough Trash that I don't need a game to do it for me."
- Raycevick 2017
'you suck!' best line ever that nobody realises, especially the background video when it happens
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"Psycholagy"
"TF2 has far fewer moments of charachter building" yeah, maybe. But they are really powerful and only mocking quotes happen when you kill someone 4 Times in a row without him killing or assissting in your death. I think that it is actually a very good way to do this. The mockery happens very rarely, but when it does the lines feel original, unlike "I've been fighting trash like you for years". And then just one kill or even an assist on your dominator triggers your response, mocking him. It keeps everybody in good mood. Tryhards in a cocky one and noobs in a "haha, I got him! REVANGE!" mood. And everybody is happy.
Yeah quakes lines are pitiful attempts compared to tf2 domination lines
2:28 Psycholagy?
fucking pls smh
Bwa ha ha ha. Went through the entire edit and never noticed. Great. Whelp. Too late now.
Add it to Urban dictionary, invent some new definitions.
Nah, I didn't screw up. Look! It's on UD!
Raycevick I chalked it up to Tynan wordmelding some definition of his. Throw an annotation over it, no one will notice :P
With the Metro series finally getting a third installment, would you be willing to do an analysis on the previous two games?
Now there's an idea...
A damn good idea. I'm surprised you haven't done those yet.
here's hoping i get to see it soon!
Please please do this!
Raycevick please make it happen it is mine and many others favorite game series
THE FUCKING QUALITY OF THESE VIDEOS!!
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Winston, the scientist who's also a giant awkward goofball...
_"SORRY ABOUT THAT!"_
_"SORRY ABOUT THAT!"_
HOW EMBARRASSING!
every time i start killing an enemy i spam the voiceline.
every.single.time.
OH YEAH
To me, Nyx's voice lines are less a character and more personified edgyness. Needless to say, I quite agree with the comment that sparked this video.
"Lines such as: *shows video footage of bang boom bang and blood splatter action where you can barely hear a word*"
I am not sure why there are so few comments about this.
New Raycevick and Joseph Anderson on the same day? It's like Christmas
I've never seen a reviewer who can deconstruct games as well as Raycevick, let alone PC first-person shooters. You know how to read between the lines and notice the subtleties in differences between games, and always make clear arguments about why these differences matter. Definitely my new favourite reviewer!
Speaking of the psychology, that's something that Respawn took into consideration with Titanfall 2: like with other competitive shooters, there is the concept of the Nemesis; however the way it works in 2 is that the player is complimented when killing someone who they are the nemesis of, but the voices over the radio never comment when the player is being dominated unless they kill their nemesis, in which case they will congratulate them on it with a line like "that guy sure deserved it".
Hello Raycevick, I've been following you for a while now and I have to thank you for everything you did. You might wonder what the hell you did for some random dude in the internet, well as I know (I am 18 since june 27th) my life as a whole was one whole downwards spiral. Your videos, although rarely I got to see some, are for me a way to get out of the stress and depressing thoughts in my mind. I started young with philosophy, never had many girlfriends except 1, two years ago, never had many friends, my parents to this point don't even know how deeply broken inside I am... I do not want to name details I just wanted to give you my deepest and honest thank you for making these videos and keeping me at bay from literally everything. (I am sorry for grammatical issues or false spellings, I am from Germany, so not a native english speaker)
Yes, Hilbertus ... Healthcare workers take care of our bodies and thank God youtubers like this give them something to watch when we get home, to take care of our souls (soul in Greek = *Psyche)*
This channel stands out to me for gaming
He rarely screechs always informative and i genuinely like learning about games i have never played and some i wont ever and even more so about the ones i love
Raycevick is a treat :)
*Psychology
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Psycho Mantis!
psychola-li-lu-le-logy
parley?
Sometimes I enjoy life, but every time I do, Caveira's there to remind me life is suffering.
I feel you man.
Chips Dubbo also spawn peeking jäger mains
Dominic Carswell And Ash mains.
I can't even enjoy life, Jager will always be there to shoot me in the head.
Meh, sometimes she peaks out the window, only to be greeted with bullet. Servers her right.
As someone who is currently studying game design, these videos are invaluable.
Every Video of this channel is so crisp and well crafted. Truly an inspiration
0:21 Holy shit that beginning Quote was ME. imgur.com/a/6O8ts Glad you expanded on my thoughts, minus the heavy, bad sarcasm.
For the record, I would like to say that I really DO love the gameplay of Lawbreakers, and a lot of other games that I brought up, but having great characters/stories goes miles to make an FPS better, yet it feels like the only time that happens is in a more cartoonish/casual focused FPS like Overwatch.
When Blizzard was hyping up Overwatch as an FPS with a high competitive skill ceiling, combined with a 'unique' art style and characters that aren't obnoxious (well, kinda), I was hyped, and after 200$ spent on getting into the beta very early, TWO preorders with the special skins, and over 800 hours in the game, I was crushed to finally accept that it really was just another casual shooter. I spent so long in denial, and so did many of the people I met while playing in the beta, they all just stopped playing because the game was clearly so focused on appealing to casual players.
Which is fine, but it just sucks to see a game that had so much hype around it shoot itself in the foot by trying too hard to appeal to "all skill levels" instead of being a game that is great casual fun in a group, or an intense high skilled team game like Tf2 is.
Like what would happen if an Arena Shooter had good characters and wasn't obsessed with the characters berating everyone constantly? Like copy paste Overwatch characters into Lawbreakers, thats just the dream game for me.
So instead of making a more casual class-based arena shooter, a market where no game was dominant, they should have made a more hardcore class-based arena shooter, a market where TF2 is very dominant, and also has an incredibly loyal fanbase.
Why try to please a fanbase that already has a game they're super invested in? Why not try to instead tap into a less monopolized market for more profit? Can't really argue with the results...
Tf2 was dominant because it was the ONLY game to fulfill that trinity on the market, and Blizzard pulled the rug right out from under Valve once they realized Valve was getting lazy.
Overwatch was incredibly popular even when people thought it WAS going to be a hardcore shooter, because it was the second triple A class based shooter with actually good looking design coming out in like 10 years, and it was shown at Tf2's lowest point, when people we're bored of the game due to lack of dev support.
And yet a ton of people who we're expecting that hardcore shooter are now still waiting.
(And when I say class based, I don't mean something like Brink, everyone reading this should know what I mean).
What makes something a casual or a hardcore shooter?
"During gameplay tf2 has far fewer moments of this character building" Im sorry Raycevick but i cannot agree with that. tf2 has hours of dialog for each class interacting with another one
It certainly does, but there's lots more long stretches of silence during a match compared to Overwatch.
Calvin_Coolage Theres also its dominations as well. The lines said from one class to another fits what is said in the video regarding the player character insulting the other player and their lack of skill. Unlike Quake Arena, the line doesnt play everytime you made a kill, but when you're constantly killing the same player over and over again.
The pre battle one liners before a battle (plus the ones Casual Mode added within a casual match) also give a good idea of what your character is due to the fact some of them are able to go on for quite a while due to the fact that no one is currently trying to kill you. This kind of dialog can carry with you throughout a game, even if you dont know how to use voice commands. TF2 certainly did it diffrently from Overwatch and Lawbreakers do it, but its still rather neat and is a nice example.
My issue with TF2's dialog is the characters are too boring for the dialog to be interesting. Granted hearing Tracer and Mercy shoot the shit before the match gets lame because it's all exposition... But at least they have personalities that also go with their dialog. With TF2, the dialog literally is: The drunken man talks shit about how much of a wimp the Australian sniper is. Or how the builder dude is so good that the French spy can't destroy his equipment without him knowing. It's X talks about how Y [Enter verbs and/or contractions here] Z. Or they taunt eachother. Also the vocal commands like "go go go" follow the same pattern. Whereas overwatch has a world around just that one battle, or that one conversation. With one bit of dialog, you can tell that the sniper is a cocky Australian, and that Reinhart is a honorable german tank. However with two lines of dialog, you see that Reinhart is also a sort of father figure to the team. Each character has their own interactions with one another both in game and out. I think the game would benefit from more Uprising-related content, since that gamemode added weight to the dialog.What has TF2 done? What has valve done to improve the world around it? Not much. The best thing was Manco in my opinion. It's due to the player base not really caring about that, and caring more with loot crates, rare skins and guns, and basic FPS mechanics. I do believe in the phrase "If it's not broke, don't fix it", but in this case it's like a check engine light blinking. I would like to fix the problem if only to stop the light from blinking.
Mek Ova So all the comics and animated shorts, the blog posts, those don't count as improving the world of TF2?
where'd you get that pyro's mom lived in space from? Wondering cuz I never heard that before
Instant like for recommending black mirror and Charlie brooker
I'm always patiently waiting for the next video. I love this channel!
Last point is more important than you might think. No weapon grinds means there is no disadvantage to a new player other than the skill. There is no weapon that magically does twice as much damage etc. If you have skill you can own someone playing the game for 1000 hours.
Your last line hit the mark - "will leave them open to everything gaming has to offer". I'm 34 and have been an avid gamer since before I could read. That being said, my gaming in the last 10-15 years was limited to military shooters, GTA, and Fallout. After playing Overwatch, I really started to branch out while shedding the subconscious idea I had that somehow a game that wasn't edgy or dark was for kids.
I feel that the greatest aspect of your videos is the production value and focus that you seem to give them. Never forget that
One very important thing you mentioned at 8:53 or so that I think probably deserves more attention:
Weapon grinding.
One of the single best things about Overwatch is that 100% of the rewards are cosmetic. This means that every player has access to every character, every weapon, every counter, every niche playstyle that fits them, all from the very beginning. All they're fighting for is bragging rights, experience (in the learn-from-your-mistakes-and-git-gud sense of the word), and cosmetics.
People can complain about the loot boxes all they want, but at the end of the day, I'd MUCH rather have cosmetic-only loot that a few people with money to burn can use to support the game, then lock entire weapons, characters, or other stuff that actually effects gameplay behind either a grindwall or a paywall.
In this sense, Overwatch does have something in common with at least some of the arena shooters you mentioned, especially Quake and UT. Sure, Overwatch has "classes" in a sense, but since they all start fully unlocked at 100%, your ability to thrive is based on your skill, not the fact that you have/haven't unlocked the AWP yet. It's just that, in Overwatch, hero selection (which is really "counter selection" when you think about it) is part of that skill, whereas in the arena shooters, 99% of the skill is based on your ability to aim and to dodge, really.
Great video. I had been thinking on this idea myself, and I can't stop smiling about seeing what I daydreamed about at work so well analyzed on UA-cam. :D I'd also argue the best lines from Quake Champions reinforce both character AND the player. This actually is what drew me to my 2 favorite characters; Ranger and Slash. Ranger says things like, "When you're 20 feet tall and throwing lightning; THEN you can challenge me." And Slash, "It must have been mah birthday!" Both strongly reinforcing aspects of their personality or backstory.
A really good video, never thought of the voice lines and stuff before this.
I think the thing that sets apart Overwatch tonally from other shooters is the overall tone of positivity. It's definitely one of the biggest reasons I've stuck with it, while many others have fallen by the wayside. Nothing in the tone of the game, visually or in voicelines, is degrading or insulting. Instead it is generally encouraging, or at least neutral/tongue-in-cheek. In Quake, the enemy characters calling me trash, or otherwise actively tearing me down through voicelines doesn't feel good. It doesn't make me want to play better, it just makes me want to not play. Which sucks, because I love the game mechanically. And I totally understand that this is subjective. I've been fighting Major Depressive Disorder for years, and so super-negative or degrading tones in games stand out to me a lot, and it's just not an environment I want to immerse myself in.
A new Raycevick the same day I'm binge watching Raycevick, Coincidence? I think NOT!!
Hey Racevick! Love your content, especially the QnA outros! Anyway, I think it'd be awesome if you could analyze mobile gaming. At least, possibly the bigger scale and the industry. It's very sad to see how mobile gaming has turned out today. Anyway, great video as always! Thanks man! :D
Great video! Keep up the great work! Your videos provide a side of gaming you don't see very often and when I watch they make me realize that games are not just skin deep.
Damn that was good. I love that you considered character lines as they affect the player experience. It's such a small detail with such a huge impact. I've gotta check out that book you referenced
I love overwatch because it's competitive and did a good job letting me learn the ropes. I love learning that new flank route, landing a one shot combo on a key target, and having my team tell me "ah good shit Gengo", but just of all I love the adrenaline when you and your team are absolutely steam rolling em. I find people I love to play with and work well with, and we climb the ranks together, learning more and more about how to better aim, better positioning, target prioritization. It's like the struggle of playing a fighting game, but there are no tournaments or uphill battles you HAVE to face to get better at the game. You have you, competitive, and a friendly game with occasionally not so friendly players. but you do learn
This was an absolute pleasure to watch. Thank you :)
"You got killed as a healer; you're teammates should've been protecting you."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A video about how battle royale games(H1z1&PUBG)are coming to popularity?
Wait, this is an actual concern?
Given the sheer amount of work and practice required, the unforgiving nature of competitive arena shooters, and how a player just a couple of notches above you will absolutely cream you, the canned quips of the characters has to be the softest bullet you'll ever need to bite.
I had the same problem with Lawbreakerz. The characters and the overall tone is horrible. Dubstep music in menus and the character lines... *shaking
Marjan same
Marjan Pretty odd that people would take issue with that specifically when the maps, game modes, character balance, and eye raping HUD with no customization are all in a disastrous state right now.
It seemed like it was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek shooter when it was first revealed. However, in its transition to a more serious tone, it forgot to delete about half of that old style, leading to a bit of a mess in the game's style.
Yeah I get that. It's fair enough if someone feels like Overwatch is cynically designed to appeal to a wide array of people, kind of a miserable attitude, but fair. But at the same time Lawbreakers isn't all bro step out of artistic integrity, its style is designed to appeal to a particular demographic, and if that's not to your taste then regardless of the mechanical design the presentation is going to make the game wear thin. Plus like Beater said there are objective design problems right now.
Overwatch characters don't trash talk because it's playerbase has already surpassed CS:GO and LOL in their toxicity.
I've never heard so many back and fourth insults at mothers, race, sexuality than I've had in Plat...
I've given up on climbing, I've already heard Zenyatta players accused of throwing.. Overwatch, the happiest, most colorful and inviting multiplayer game has sunk from it's own success.... the human element of this game is garbage, I lose a little bit of faith in humanity when I hear someone utter anything on the mic in Overwatch.
great game, terrible community.
wizzzer1337 I think that tends to be the end result of a larger community, as well as a push for competitive play. when a game had a clear competitive mode where you climb a ladder and try to prove you are THE best, it grows incredibly toxic because chances are the person is fucking pissed off for losing a game earlier. or if they are talking shit to the enemy team they are trying to get under their skin and make them perform worse.
I really do truly believe if both LoL and Overwatch never made the big push to be a competitive E-sports title the community would have remained a hell of a lot more tame.
Actually had to stop playing it and go back to league because it was that bad. The worst part is the blame game is taking to a whole new level because you just start blaming the least liked hero on the team despite how well they are playing and call them to switch to something else. At least in league or csgo you can tell who really is playing poorly and you can't really try to micro manage them and they get more angry when they dont listen.
always fantastically done. Keep it up man
A collaboration for an analysis video between Raycevick and Ethos would be LEGENDARY!!
I think that the strength of OW's world building through it's characters is not necessarily in how playing a character makes you feel, like you explore in the video. For me (and I have issues with LawBreakers's appeal because of this), every OW character feels *distinct*. No matter who I'm playing, there is personality that - to a bigger or lesser extent - enforces gameplay styles (Widowmaker admiring kills the way players do in their highlight reels, D.Va being cocky when she absorbs an enemy ultimate, etc), and that makes the experience of playing a specific character unique within the game. And while it may not put the emphasis on competition the way LawBreakers or Quake do, I feel more invested, and I feel like I'm doing what I am supposed to do on that character. LawBreakers, for instance, does not have this kind of strong and different character design, neither in lore, nor in VA, nor in visuals. Whether I'm slicing enemy players in half with a grappling-hooking Assassin or blowing them up with rockets from a bulky Titan, the difference in gameplay isn't met in the character design. And while there may be some merit to this because LawBreakers doesn't have counters like OW does, it ultimately diminishes my long-term enjoyment of the game
i like this channel, its like BBC documentary for video games
I just like that you can change characters at any point in a match.
Nice selection on the soundtrack. Daedelus is one of my favorites
"I can't agree with this personally but there is merit to the proposal" holy shit you've transcended
Judging by Mister Vick's consistent choice in avatars, I'm sensing a theme here.
It must be tough being a kawaii uguu when you sound like a thirty-year-old noir protagonist who gargles whiskey and gravel every morning.
"Many, particularly in the gaming press, attribute a large portion of this popularity to overwatch's ca-"
Porn, the large sums of overwatch porn.
hey, does anyone remember battleborn? anyone? no? ok.
Atm_games battle what now
Atm_games eh? Warfetus? the fuck is that?
I only remember Grey-Manes
No I was playing Paladins dummy you stupid dumb duck
Super underrated. I personally enjoyed it more than Overwatch.
Raycevick, your videos are awesome. I've seen lots and lots of YT Channels, but I think you are the best channel tied with MatthewMatosis!
This video really has 1 simple point but damn it's worthy one. Gj man.
Of what little I know of both, Kojima sounds like perfect guy to make a ghost in the snail game.
Awesome stuff man! Keep it up!
Not to mention, when your real life teammates in CSGO or any team based game commend you for an incredible clutch. It feels absolutely amazing.
Overwatch has such a beatiful graphic. The character look so otherworldly!
Trackmania is by no means a casual game. It can definitely be played as such, but getting used to the ins and outs of the cars you're driving and the different types of road (especially on Valley, what you showed) takes a lot of practice. The very idea of the game is basing on practice - playing a track over and over again until you inch ever closer to perfection. TM actually used to be a pretty big esport back in the day.
I enjoyed the dialog presented in the video. The reason why is because it makes me think of shit I never thought about lol I do not know if it is because when I am in a middle of a multiplayer competitive game that I blank out and only focus on objective at hand or it doesn't really bother me, but I never quite notice the one lines characters say as you kill shit. Dam now even thinking about it, I never even put into thought that master chief in halo doesn't say shit. I guess thats why you have the narrator say shit like "double kill". I especially liked how you mentioned "Designing Games" as it shows that you are just not talking out of your ass, but actually put thought behind it.
This is definitely a great video for someone to watch to understand and learn as to why developers create a product a certain way. Now I understand this analysis was just talking about the basic of "Fiction" as you had it pointed out in the video as the first step, but I believe that first step is always going to be the most critical one.
I think Overwatch does such a good job reinforcing the player with its excellent UI feedback (the kill beep, the skull icon, etc,) that it doesn't really matter whether the characters' voice lines do it for you.
"Is this easy mode?" RIP
I hope er have a "Halo 3... 10 years later"
>Indoctrination theory
>Sad
That Sonic fanfic of an "ending" is still better and more thought out than what Bio "I hate white people for being white" Ware put out. Nice video btw dude, always love your stuff.
I think the issue I had with overwatch was that the characters become a limit in themselves, with what you can do, when you defend place turrets at optimal spot with torbjorn etc. the games just felt like they always played out the same if not just super similar to each other
Dude, how the hell are you just at 100K subs?? This is some good shitj!
It seems like most people have completely forgotten why games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament worked so well as multiplayer only games in the first place (aside from the kick ass music).
Both games had already an established universe to build on, with familiar mechanics, weapons, sounds, levels and so on.
So even if you only had played a little singleplayer of Quake or Unreal, you knew enough to start playing multiplayer in Q3 or UT.
Mods like CS, Team Fortress and Dota also worked for this reason, because they build upon an already existing world/mechanics the player was familiar with.
Of course there is a limit to how long and often you can reuse something, before you have to reestablish your fiction. This is something I think they've missed with the latest multiplayer only games.
A new Quake campaign done with the same level of care as the latest Doom campaign, could have been a great way to introduce new players to the universe and reconnected old players.
Also, perhaps the most overlooked benefits of having a great singleplayer campaign as a foundation for a multiplayer game, is the different way you design a singleplayer game.
Sure making a singleplayer game drains resources (assuming you put some effort into it), but it also provides unexpected benefits of having ideas, designs, environments, mechanics, physics etc.. you could use in multiplayer. Where lots of those assets, ideas and designs probably never would have been thought of, if you instead go in developing something with a multiplayer only mindset.
As a result, great multiplayer games and franchises that also have a great singleplayer campaign often as a whole feels much more richer, and the experience more complete.
This is a very similar argument levied against fighting games, it's interesting to see the parallels
remember when overwatch was fun? they took out the fun out of both the competitive and also the whole goddamn casual queue on the game with just horrible seasons aimed only at high skill competitive.
Balancing the game towards casual players is what ruins games. that's why they added the most hated heroes ever, such as bridge dungfist and moircy so you can get a kill and be satisfied with your pathetic life. lol :D
Agree but I don't like that, I mean there is a really really big chunk of the Overwatch player base that it's there just because they like shipping or a specific character, and that makes playing with random a chore... Nothing wrong with that though, just saying that if you are there with a competitive mindset and your team is there with a casual mindset it can be very frustrating, this is why I am dying to find a good fixed team to play... Great video btw
I will not die, not yet amigo.
Hey Rayce, just found found your channel and im loving what ive seen so far from you. Anyway, personally I'm a huge fan of character building in video games that I play and I also love multiplayer experiences that provide multiple ways to play the game, and various learning curves to accompany them. So overwatch doing both simultaneously is why i immediately fell in love with the game. Now, I haven't seen much from Quake Champions or even played it at all, but I followed Lawbreakers's development pretty closely, as its gameplay caught my attention, only for it to be shattered upon immediately hearing #you'redeadbro, as well as the lead developer being an absolute ego-centric jerk. Simply, i cannot fathom enjoying a mulitplayer game where every character sounds like a bunch of edgy teenagers , as compared to overwatch where you get character building and lore through eliminating certain characters as a certain character, or having two characters just simply be on the same team. Just felt like id provide insight as to why Overwatch garners so much popularity versus Lawbreakers
at least now i have confidence to play overwatch again
Great job man. The voice lines are really one of my favorite aspects of overwatch. I also really love how players have used voice lines and emotes to create brand new memes for the game. One interesting thing u brought up about lawbreakers voice lines which is true seems to be more insults than insight into teh character, I would also argue overwatch has a similar system via sprays and waving hello. Nothing is more embarrassing than being killed by dva ult and she disrespects u with the wave and spray emote in the play of the game or the infamous knocking someone off a ledge and waving good by to them. But the number one insult of them all that will make anyone salty in overwatch is the devil herself, Mei fuckin freezing you and then waving at you before headshoting you. That shit makes me want to flip a table. Ultimate disrespect.
Thanks! Cheeky sarcasm is quite the draw in Rocket League as well. There's a running theme at this point with my friend being tilted whenever someone uses the quick response "calculated" after a goal.
I think another important part of the fiction is the fact you shift the blame despite reality off your self. Whats brutal about fighting games and arena shooters specifically 1v1 is that you play the game and the reason you lost is solely because you were worse and ontop of it your only reward is a big you lose. In games like overwatch you have the ability to create the fiction that you aren't actually a terrible player.
maybe its cause I live in silicon valley but when you said cheap rent I couldnt help but laugh
Shadow Warrior is a singleplayer game yet I love it when I kill enemies and hear sentences like "You guys are pussies!". It fits to the main character and is amusing.
I grinded overwatch quick play and competitive for a total of like 150 hours on PS4 and PC. I have no drive to play the game anymore. The only reason I play it now is doing custom games and 3v3 with friends.
Seeing DOOM's Tea Bag emote again cracked me up so hard
IDK what to make of this, and I don't have any stats, but just my observation
played competitive CS:GO regularly for like a year or two and met like three other women playing?
started playing overwatch a few months ago, been doing competitive, meet other women every other day
seems to me like a lot more women play overwatch than CSGO
i think it's cause of the characters, like maybe there's more there to fit different tastes? also i think the cartoony superhero vibe is less hyper-masculo-dude-bro than like army mcwar dude CSGO counter terrorists beating up iraqis kinda thing
so i guess what i'm saying is that maybe having diverse characters with personal stories might make games more appealing to more people? i guess that's fairly uncontroversial, whatever
Comaleaf its more appealing since there are characters that take more skill than others. A good CSGO player can play a hitscan well, but a person with bad aim can play a support well.
I completely agree with this. I think what Blizzard did was they looked at the FPS genre as a whole and saw the same thing everywhere: the same uniforms, the same voices, the same guns, the same drab colors, even the same cookie-cutter characters. If it's sci-fi, throw in some blue lights. The mechanics were fine, but it's like when you listen to a good song for too long. It just gets old. A lot of people haven't gotten worn out from that apocalyptic/underdog super-soldier vibe though, and those seem to be the people who don't like Overwatch. The main complaint I see is "the characters are cartoony," and that's the entire point. That's a major reason why Overwatch took off so well.
When it comes down to it, Overwatch characters aren't soldiers. They're superheroes with guns. It's supposed to be cartoony, over-the-top, with fairly flat characters. Captain America and Superman aren't exactly known for being super in-depth and three dimensional. Both are some variant of "there are people in danger and I must save them for that is what I do, moral high ground is my sword and plot armor is (usually) my shield." So when Blizzard says "Winston is a gorilla scientist that doesn't like being called a monkey," everything about the character is going to portray that and only that. And that's what makes Overwatch so appealing at first glance to so many people, and I believe that's why it's sticking around the way it is. It's colorful, and actually looks fun to play.
It's easier. It's on consoles.
I have a 1000 hours on overwatch and yet i still enjoy the game very much. The game is just the most mechanically satisfying fps ever made. Dinking with Mccree, one clipping with tracer, tracking and deleting squishies with soldier, big grav with zarya, hog diffing and so much more that no other game can achieve. I would say it's the best multiplayer fps game of the past decade.
IF NOT FOR THE FUCKING NEW HEROES AND SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELDS D':< !!!!!!
amazing video as always!
I played Overwatch at a friends house and enjoyed it, but it didn't stick with me. It's a good game but just didn't strike a chord with me personally.
Ok, so this is my first comment in about 5-6 years but damn you make some awesome content! Just had to be said!
Using only Nyx is somewhat neat, what about Ranger or at least Blazkowicz since the former keeps looking for a slipgate which takes him back home for 20 years and starts losing his mind, but only a picture of his family keeps him sane. You can even hear it when he earns a kill or respawns.
"Where the world has taken me now?"
"For 20 years i've been looking for a way home, i am not going to quit now!" (Plays when you respawn after having your killstreak
"Too much going on in my head...i can't focus!"
In case of Blazkowicz he can be pretty cocky when he kills someone but at the same time keep you, the player, to keep going when you respawn.
"Never give up."
"Never give in to these people."
"You're dead...funny" (Most likely after killing Galena)
In case of Overwatch well, most of the characters have a weak personality. So far i only find Roadhog, Junkrat, Ana, Reinhardt and Torbjorn interesting.
Amazing video as always. Wish comments would talk about the topic instead of if they like Overwatch or not...
You can almost feel how they are trying to spin the conversation -_-
I prefer the character version of doing this tbh, I hate those "obliterated/you suck/wwowowow" sounds in games. It makes me cringe so hard instead of making me feel powerful/humiliated, I never understood why all TF2 servers have plugins to spam this bullshit over and over.
I for one welcome our new canadian overlords.
Just kidding, but I applaud your ability to demonstrate the appeal when it comes to overwatch. I'd also add that a minor part of that appeal is not falling in the 3rd-gen stereotype people have with the shooter....but that's a whole other matter.
~The Monk.
Damn i miss Ghost In The Shell : First Assault...
RIP, one of my favorite pickup-and-play games
That was awesome.Keep it up dude.One of OW's biggest problems is its community.You have an X reason that you dont like the game and you want to share it with others? Well good luck surviving all the attacks coming your way.It is just sad sometimes.
Not sure how I missed this the first time but great vid. Overwatch is coming up on another anniversary soon. Any interest in a "years later" for Overwatch?
Bout time you made an Overwatch video Canadian.
*"During gameplay, TF2 has far fewer moments of this character building."*
I disrespectfully disagree, and I am going to explain why. I'm not lying when I say that I am all-too familiar with Team Fortress 2. I've played for over 3,500 hours ( proof: https:/steamcommunity.com/id/cosbolt ) and can say for a fact that that the veracity of that statement is nonexistent.
Even in my first few hours of playing Team Fortress 2 I notice how each of the characters are dripping with personality. Their voice-lines and domination-lines display so much of this, regardless of the comics or "Meet the Team" videos.
For example, you can tell that the soldier, from just how he acts, speaks, and fucking humiliates people in-game has a lot of shit about him.
*"You are the sorriest excuses for soldiers I have ever seen!"*
*"You sissified maggot scum have just signed your death warrants!"*
He is a warmongering lunatic, a complete xenophobe who hates all things enemy with a passion.
*"Your white flag does not stop American bullets."*
*"I am going to enjoy killing each and every one of you sorry sacks of scum!"*
*"Words cannot express how much I hate France right now!"*
Yet he displays a strong sense of honor, respect for the fallen, and a huge loyalty to his team.
*"You were good son, real good; maybe even the best."*
*"Godspeed, you magnificent bastard."*
Notice how these are all *in-game* voice-lines (so many more) that build the characters with such fidelity that I've never seen in any single-player campaign, or even TV show or movie.
Also, you just played a round of hightower and sawmill to collect the footage, your only frags you showed were on braindead or afk players 7:02. At least try to play the game a bit more before saying some horseshit like that?
Cosbolt This American boot just kicked your ass back to Russia
if you haven't seen a character buildup on par with Team Fortress' in any campaign, film or TV show, that just goes on to prove that you haven't really experienced that many quality narrative experiences. This entire comment just comes off like an overtly defensive fanboy argument, really.
Don't forget about the fact that Overwatch matches you with players of similar skill level. TF2 didn't do that from the start, which is why you could have an m1+w gibus pyro and a market gardening 1000+ hour soldier on one team.
When you brought up the Arena Shooter video I thought you were gonna talk about my comment and I was like oh shit.
I'm not a huge fan of Overwatch anymore, but I always understood the appeal. After trying out the Open Beta for Lawbreakers, I loved the mechanics and the gamemodes, but the awful User Interface, the characters that are all pretty much the same, and that very "Unreal" look everything has is what's putting me off from buying into it.
Excellent video again. Doubled my pledge because, damn that consistency in quality. (Apart from the psycholagy.)
This can also be said on whole lot of other competitive games such as Dota 2 for example
Characters speaking during multiplayer is nothing new. Characters in Gears of War say various comments depending on the situation. Overwatch characters speak more, simply due to the fact that the game has very little internal story. Thus character speech, is needed for the characters to show development.
Thank you. I loved the characters in Gears as well. Headshots with Baird...
"Mmm-mm! Juicy!"
Overwatch is a pretty cool game that proves that you don't need a campaign in order to prove for a game to be fun. Besides, when was the last time core multiplayer gameplay focused around the campaign? It's fun to discover the lore yourself if you are interested but it is not essential to the gameplay.
Also, I do not know why the characters are often criticized. They are most memorable and recognized when compared to other FPS characters; for example, Call of Duty.
4:50 you filthy F2020 user... I love you.
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Always great!!
I liked Overwatch a lot at the beginning, but 200+ hours later and I haven't touched it in months. Mostly because Blizzard is blatantly enticing people to buying their loot boxes by releasing limited time items for characters with rarely any pause for players to stack up the in-game currency and because it felt like all the matches became the same or similar enough to each other. The gameplay stopped being as rewarding as it used to be (which I'd imagine happened because I'm constantly matched up against people that play it on a daily basis while I play it casually with friends when the days and times align) and the loot boxes aren't carrying that weight, since most skins and animations are fun for a week or two at the most and then I just don't care.
if you left because of skins you are a bitch, they even buffed the cases so you would get beter items in the lootboxes
No, that's just a part of it. I left because the game got boring, since reasons stated above happened and I didn't really feel like grinding for the handful of items I want among the thousands of voice lines, skins and sprays.
Not to mention that the community is a toxic waste dump.
maybe because the game is about getting beter and not getting rewards, overwatch is competetive like counter strike.
mental flux Jesus dude, was calling him a “bitch" really necessary?
No, that's just Blizzard trying to have the cake and eat it too by making Overwatch casual and competitive at the same time.