What do you think about the new details surrounding this meeting between Yhwach and Aizen? How would things have been different in TYBW if Aizen had joined the Wandenreich? Maybe that's a what-if video we should look at one day... Let me know your thoughts below!
Yamaji was able to tell he was fighting aizen when aizen peirced him. SK Yhwach was not able to tell he was fighting aizen even though his arm was inserted into aizen.
Idk if you take suggestions but if you do then i have a few of them 1.kyoraku shunsui vs jugrem haschwalth 2.kyoraku shunsui vs askin nakk le vaar 3.mayuri kurotsuchi vs gremmy themouex 4.aizen sosuke vs kurosaki ichigo(during the tybw arc) 5.fake yhwach vs jugrem haschwalth 6.real yhwach vs Yamamoto at full strength 7.urahara kisuke vs shunsui kyoraku 8.shinigami aizen vs fake yhwach 9.urahara kisuke vs pernida pankgjas 10.mayuri kurotsuchi vs askin nakk le vaar 11.how you would've done the final battle of bleach 12.what if urahara kisuke did turn evil
I always assumed that the reason Aizen didn't know which illusion Yhwach saw was because Yhwach can pick and choose which future to exist in and alter to his benefit, but there is no future where Aizen isn't spamming illusions. Only Yhwach knows which future he picked, so Aizen has no way of knowing which illusion is in play. I think it is unlikely that he would be using the same one in all futures, so it makes sense that he was unsure what Yhwach saw.
Another possible way to interpret that is Aizen being at least partially impressed by his own illusions even working on The Almighty, so him saying "I see, so you see me as Ichigo Kurosaki," with some translations even trailing off for a second saying "fascinating..." could be him reveling at the fact his hypnosis even works on Yhwach. OR it could be your idea that the illusions seen were technically picked by Yhwach. OR it could be the idea that, with the idea of him using hypnosis without manifesting his sword is like using a kido with no chant, maybe the weaker hypnosis is something he doesn't fully control. There are a lot of possibilities, but I've always felt the idea that he just doesn't control his own hypnosis anymore to be really odd. So I'll take any interpretation that isn't that.
@@XFG_Official Yeah, I agree. Even if it was a situation where the Complete (sometimes called Perfect) Hypnosis ability (or the hypnosis ritual) was "weaker"...how do you weaken COMPLETE hypnosis? Going further, this would mean even a weaker version of the ability is enough to affect The Almighty. It makes the most sense to me that Ywhach is using his ability and Aizen is using his ability, but Aizen cannot see what Yhwach sees through The Almighty and Yhwach can see everything INCLUDING all the illusions that Aizen is spamming in all futures, he just has no way to tell what is illusion and what is not. I wonder if Kubo will ever flesh this out a bit, maybe answer the question in the anime by expanding the fight to include the explanation.
To add to the discussion. A 3rd possibility is that when he uses the illusion this way he cannot control what you see. It is supposed to be weaker afterall. Another consideration is you have to remember this Aizen first time using his evolved kyoka suigetsu fully.... by the things he said, it felt like he was experimenting what it can do now.
I love the whole “Bad guy from past arc helps fight bigger baddie” trope. It was damn-near perfection when Frieza helped Goku finish Jiren(he wasn’t really a villain but still), and seeing Aizen stand with Ichigo against Yhwach was just as good.
Heres a fun one: Ichigo has two baddies from earlier arcs whose powers radically alter the past (Tsukishima) and the present (Aizen) help him defeat an enemy who can control the future.
@@remingtonsummers8014 our uncle Tsukishima isn't a baddie he's a really nice person who raised us both yet you repay his good deeds with these insults ... the audacity Tsukishima is a hero wouldn't hurt a fly and ended up winning the war by himself
Aizen helping defeat Ywach was great for sure... by Freeza coming back to help beat Jiren was TRASH 🗑️🚮. If you are a die hard DBZ/DB fan you'd know that Freeza represents pure evil. The WHOLE point of showing Vegeta before Freeza was more than just a power scaling thing...Toriyama had DBZ made to end at the Namek Saga...The reason Toriyama introduces Vegeta first was to add perspective on who was truly evil ...I'm not going to dissect Vegeta completely bc you should know his character but in a quick summary Vegeta was bad bc of his upbringing.. Vegeta conquering other planets was a job/duty bc Freeza had the Saiyans in his control, Vegeta did love fighting but also didn't show any mercy bc he had nothing left after Freeza destroyed planet Vegeta... Freeza killed just to kill...and at the end of the Namek Saga you had Goku (pure of heart) Vs Freeza (wicked)..if you change ANYTHING about Freeza you in turn shit on DBZ.. literally DBZs best arc and one of animes best villains turns to shit.
Yhwach's mistake was going to Aizen at all. Aizen never plays second fiddle to anyone or anything no matter who they are, or how powerful they may be. His god tier ego can't allow it. Aizen's mocking was certainly about Yhwach wanting to change the worlds just as the Shinigami ancestors did so with their ambitions. A meeting of titans ends with one continuing his path, the other still biding his time.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 Truth. Aizen wanted to expand upon that to Soul Society in the aftermath when he tried to communicate the truth to Ichigo, Shunsui and Urahara stopped that by having his mouth sealed and then taken away immediately. In the end as mentioned Aizen only needs to wait, Soul Society's own secrets and corruption will be their end. It's all but stated their reforms are just cosmetic while the rot remains.
Aizen was not a mistake Yhwach paid for at all since no matter how you look at it Aizen didn't really add up to his downfall because Aizen went down before the conditions for Yhwach's defeat were ready i would argue that his actual mistake was empowering Ishida *that's what got him killed* talking to Aizen was a minor one if anything meeting Ichibei 1000+ years ago was an even bigger one than meeting Aizen because that made him temporarily lose Almighty wich ended up with him being defeated by Yamajii
It wasn't a mistake in the end since his Kyouka Suigetsu didn't do anything to beat him at all. He just gave a job offer and was declined. Simple as that
The use of colour and overall aesthetic of Muken during this scene was SO good. And seeing Yhwach and Aizen’s meeting was a great way to set up their inevitable clash at the end of the arc.
What I love about Aizen is you don’t really know what he is. What is he thinking? What’s his Bankai? What does he truly want to achieve? What’s the Hogyoku? What was his origin story? Less is more and Kubo perfected it.
Naw the lack of information is just grating after a while, it makes it seem as though that a character is doing something just because which is pretty lazy unless his character is all about that. But we know Aizen isn't, he has a set goal, he's a beautiful painting with no color.
@@maylabrown4584 Kubo knows that well used mystery is a positive. Great mangakas like the late kentaro Miura (Rip) also knew this. Its why aizen is so interesting.
I must say, it was so refreshing to see Aizen talk down to another villain on his level. Usually we only ever see him demean the Shinigami or his Arrancars, but his interactions with Yhwach display just how all encompassing his ego is. There is no being superior to Aizen, and the mere suggestion of such a thing means you're liable to get flamed with some biblical insults. GOAT villain.
Seems the most likely honestly. Aizen probably figured something would come of it, but he likely wasnt concerned about the details. Dude was just bored and wanted to troll.
@@christopherbanks1341 true, but not everything he has ever done has been 5th dimensional chess level. When shiro attacked Misaki aizen didnt think it would result in ichigo and that aizen could use him 30 years later to evolve himself. He was just interested and wanted to see what would happen.
They will most likely add stuff, even explain how kyoka suigetsu has evolved, and fully demonstrate what that level 99 kido can do. Maybe this time Aizen does it with the full chant.
What i really want is to hear the word "Bankai" from Aizen in the Anime, altough i really cant find a fitting one for him, his shikai is allready so damn strong lol
There's no way Aizen's Kanzen Saimin is weaker without his blade. It was still powerful enough to temporarily counter the Almighty. The reason Aizen was wondering what Yhwach was seeing is probably because he didn't know how it would affect a being that powerful.
Yep... but he did manifest the sword when fighting Juha which then strengthened the illusions. The fact that it was the only power to even stand up to the Almighty directly is one of the greatest feats in Bleach.
@@Ephideltrance Not really since Yhwach believed Ichigo's had a chance to break him *I say believed but he mostly likely saw a future where he was killed by it so just decided to bring forth a future where he didn't get killed by the attack and destroyed his bankai essentially it's like a glitch in a game where you die to a boss numerous times and you win in twelve instances of you facing that boss but instead of facing it in this one particular round you just bring out the save file and overwrite the previous one you break the game and the mechanics by simply making it look like you already faced the enemy and won. Even with his Almighty that's why he destroyed his Bankai before he released it as, for aizen he just didn't give a shit since as we see soon enough he negated Kyoka Suigetsu easily after a single moment even after he was affected by it which just shows that whether he was attacked by it or not he could adapt and use the almighty to just bypass it completely it was a flex in of itself and he didn't need to break it. He even mocks him thinking that Aizen thinks it would actually work since Yhwach didn't take precautions against it which is already a big insult. The only way they caught him off guard was Still Silver being involved.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871Ywach actually does 'break' KS. It's in the fight chapter. You see KS cracking and Aizen reacting shocked. Now, it was probably a misdirection by Aizen since he probably used his hypnosis to Manifest the blade and make Ywach think he was fighting with his zanpaktout the while time. But Ywach does in fact think he broke KS. KS is what gave Ichigo a direct opening unchallenged or unseen. It's why it's a significant feat in itself. There were only two powers that were worthy to stand against the Almighty. Kyoka Suigetsu and Book of the End. Those are facts. KS affected the Almighty by altering what Ywach 'sees' in the future. Aizen creates what Ywach sees, so Aizen in that moment controls the Almighty. Bppk of the End can alter the past, hence restoring Ichigoa zanpaktou after it was broken, an ability the Almighty couldn't see coming or change. Neither were capable of killing him, but both posed a threat equally.
The fact that Aizen can put you under Kyōka Suigetsu with just his spiritual pressure, as well as doing it to someone like Yhwach, is a MINDBOGGLING upgrade for someone who's only been in Muken for a year. As it's been said before and will be said many more times in the future, meeting Aizen was one of the biggest mistakes of Yhwach's whole damn life.
But at that moment , yhwach was a bit weak , in fact, he was weaker than when he faced ichibei. Also, Ks is not that perfect huh, jugram / ichigo can sense it , for ichigo , he said it was because he had already sensed it before but for jugram, i guess it was maybe because he's smart enough to notice ; if yhwach had done the same it'd have been good as f.. Anyways , you are right yhwach's big mistake was : meeting aizen
@@KingRoot-ie9qh Sensing it and resisting it are two different things. That ichigo is not under the effects is simply because Aizen chose not to place him. He said it himself in the final battle. Say you sensed KS. You now have to win the reiatsu battle to resist its effects. How many people have more alot more reiatsu than Aizen? Remember he doesnt have to beat you in the reiatsu battle. He simply has to be relative for it to work (see like how Yama was affected when he was at the time clearly higher than Aizen?)
the fact that aizen can put someone under a slightly weaker kyoka suigetsu with just his reiatsu is actually insane, the hogyoku is genuinely so insane. imagine a character like ichigo merging with the hogyoku instead
Yhwach: Thanks to you Ichigo Kurosaki I can now invade the Royal Palace! Ichigo: ... Yhwach: ...What? Why are you looking at me like that? Ichigo: If you're gonna invade how come you're still here and Aizen's the one going up? Yhwach: ....Shit!
2:50 Mugetsu did vaporize Aizen. Actually, more than vaporize, it existence erased him since 1.) He has transcendent power compared to Aizen, which was shown to existence erase people and 2.) His Quincy powers from Quincy Zangetsu were unknowingly being used, and Quincy erase souls
Aizen being still alive after it's used means he wasn't vaporized. Quincy only erase hollows as numeroes shinigami still keep their bodies and reiatsu after getting killed by the Stern Ritter
@@jordantinucci3509in the anime is waa clearly shown that Aizen's bidy was pulverized by the mugetsu, but his immortality saved him by reconstructing his body.
@@jordantinucci3509in the manga he was vaporised too. There is no way an attack that envelops an entire valley will just cut you in half. If that is the case it is an incredibly lame technique.
It's crazy how some people still think that Aizen's comment, "So you see me as Kurosaki Ichigo?", was suggesting that he didn't know what illusion Yhwach was seeing. By this point everyone should've realized that everything Aizen says to someone is either mockery or gaslighting. Like how the hell would fusing with your zanpakuto suddenly make you weaker? Or make your control lesser for that matter? Sh*t doesn't make one bit of sense, honestly speaking. Aizen's comment was just his way of mocking Yhwach because prior to that moment, Yhwach boasted that he already broke Aizen's sword, so the reveal at the end made it humiliating for him. Also, Aizen was fascinated at the fact that he was able to interfere with the Almighty. This was proven yet again when after the real Ichigo showed up and attacked Yhwach, Aizen talked to him about how he was able to deduce that his powers can affect the Almighty and he used that to distract Yhwach so that Ichigo can attack him. There was nothing to suggest that Aizen doesn't know what illusion he gave Yhwach or that he doesn't have control over his powers at all. That was just Aizen being Aizen, plain simple.
This is accurate. Even with ywach future abilities, once someone is under KS it's clipped and aizen activate it instantly at any moment as showed w momo and toshiro and a countless slew of other captains. If anything it would simply make sense ywach can't see it because it's an illusion.
If I'm not mistaken, his hypnosis only works on phisical senses, it does not affect things like sense of reiatsu, that's why in Fake Karakura when Aizen stabs Yamamoto, Yamamoto is sure that Aizen is actually in front of him, because he can sense reiatsu of his blade inside of himself.
I just realized how Aizen can pass time without going insane being in that chair all alone, he can create illusions on himself to be in some sort of virtual reality kind of state. Holy crap, he could be doing anything from just having fun to creating scenarios in his head to predict outcomes in case scenarios.
Interesting you took Aiden fusion with his Zanpakuto as a downgrade I considered it a massive upgrade as it now has the ability to see one’s soul true fears/desires/etc Which is why when Aizen said interesting you see me as Ichigo as aizen himself doesn’t know the depths of what is cast with the upgrade. As before he would tell the person this is what you will see. This is much more powerful as it is specialized to the person and is unique only to them. At the cost that Aizen is unable to see what is that persons soul reflects I suspect that when Aizen released his ability he wanted Yhwach to fight his most feared opponent. Aizen didn’t know that Yhwach thought it was Ichigo instead of himself. Again this Aizen stunned comment to Yhwach that he saw Ichigo. Upgrades ability to me. And can probably still do the original version. What do you think?
I agree, the only thing beyond a Bankai is called "Transcendence" wich is further bonding with your Zanpakto so that you become one with it and reach that new threshold of power. If anyone else was paying attention Aizen made it pretty damn clear
Aizen commenting on viewing him as Ichigo wasn't an admission he didn't know what Yuha was seeing, he was just flexing his Lol face with his normal arrogance to belittle Yuha.
I've heard that line talked about like he couldn't see what Yhwach was seeing, but personally I don't think that's the case given the grander context. I think he was just mocking Yhwach and playing with the shock the "all seeing" God got tricked with a mirror flower.
its a parallel to what YWACH did against Yamamoto. Both ended up tricked by someone who at the moment looked exactly like the opponent they were after, only for the real one to come from behind when the truth of the deception is revealed.
Bleach was my favorite anime growing up, always felt like a comfort show for me to watch, but after watching the first 2 parts of tybw my mind was blown. The anime went from arguably my favorite bc of nostalgia to my favorite bc of how badass the final act (so far) was
You should make a video exploring what the sole society would look like under Aizen’s rule . Would it really be worse than what the ruling class has been doing all this time?
I was just speaking about this on twitter about Kyouka Suigetsu's parameters and caveats. Aizen's powerful reiatsu mitigated his swords weaknesses the stronger he became. I wouldnt say it's out of question that the influence and control of his illusions might wane/dilute if aomeone of equal or greater power is the target. Perhaps this is simply territory Aizen isnt too familiar with? Considering Aizen's was glad he hadn't ever hypnotized Ichigo prior to the confrontation with Yhwach, it seems that there are some element of control Aizen lacks over his illusions. You would think he could just free someone from his spell/influence them at will. But again, Ichigo isn't your average (captain level) soul. ***I also heard Kenpachi Zaraki's swelling power has supposedly broken him free of KS's hold in the novel. If so, Kenpachi can either "cut"/destroy all things and phenomenon, Aizen's power comes with caveats like every other zanpakuto, or reiatsu scaling is at play. Maybe more...
13:10 The enemy commander went into prison while the battle outside was in full swing. There are only two reasons for that: 1. The enemy is a idiot with no planning skills. 2. The enemy was under a time limit, and had to get as much done as possible in the short amount of time. Yhwach did not seem to fit 1, so 2 it had to be. - It is also possible Yhwach entered by "shifting over" within Aizens sensory range. - It is also quite possible that Aizen knew of the Wandenreich before the soul society arc. He did go out of his way not to kill most captains. Like he needed them for a future war. Between Complete Hypnosis, Kidos that hide you and his spy drones - he might have been roughly aware what dimension the Wandenreich was hiding in. And what the rules for crossing over were.
To be real with you I don't think Pre-Almighty Yhwach would've stood a snowballs chance in hell against Aizen. I would've loved to see Aizen vs all of the Sternritter
True ,tybw aizen, monster aizen, dangai ichigo and above will fodderize yhwach since both of them were transcendent beings at that point( while ichigo lost his power and aizen got sealed and later ichigo attains even greater power and also a transcended being) Yhwach even at the eos was powerful because of his hax while both aizen and ichigo had better stats.
Base yhwach stands no chance but he will definitely give him some trouble That's a mid diff . Now asking aizen vs all sternritters, That's basically overrating aizen. Clearly knowing that , jugram A was called the strongest enemy ever during the 660th chapter meaning for kubo, jugram A > aizen. The way i see it . Uryu , jugram both post auswalhen can both give some trouble to aizen especially if they use their vollstandig but he will win . It's extreme diff. Please stop overrrating aizen by saying aizen vs all sternritters .
@@mufeezsyed2664 Lol do you even know that base yhwach had a transcendent reiatsu wtf are you even saying ? Didn't you guy see jugram's backstory ? His simple presence killed an entire village of quincies lol . So for you, a normal person can do that ? Aizen 3rd form had to come close to human to kill them with his presence when yhwach could do better with quincy while being far from them. And it was yhwach 1000 ago. Lol You are clearly underrestimating base yhwach ( vs ichibei )
@KingRoot-ie9qh if that was the case then Yhwach after absorbing the Soul King would've absolutely wiped the floor with Aizen and he wouldn't have been able to do anything except lay on the floor. If he was so low on the ladder then he wouldn't have been involved in the final battle. It's not over rating him, he was able to solo the entire Gotei 13 and then got stronger after being locked in Muken, if you think he wouldn't stand a chance against all of them then you're genuinely tripping.
@@isaacbrown4506 lol if it wasn't the case lmao Yhwach was destroying both ichigo and aizen wtf are you even talking about. And pls aizen being able to solo the gotei 13 ( so you are comparing , shinigamis who were all tired + injured + weaker at that moment compared to their tybw version with sternritters ? ) Bro you comparaison is just awfull lemme tell you that lol . Royd , just to talk about him would destroy that version of aizen, you are talking about. Aizen himself told kaname and gin : let them getting tired and weaker , it'd be easy for us to defeat them ; The same aizen also confirmed that shikai Yamamoto > him and that same shikai Yamamoto barely hurt royd, in the manga and in the Anime, royd was bleeding a bit. Lol isn't that enough for you to understand that royd > aizen fkt ? But once again asking aizen vs sternritters is just overrating him , you are basing yourself on aizen vs yhwach ( when he got no diff by him untill ichigo comes ) , Now based on jugo' own words, uryu is a hard match for yhwach , what would you say now uryu > aizen ??? Lol
The interaction was much needed. In the manga, it left one wondering how that convo went but i could only have imagined Aizen talking down to him. Kubo delivered in the anime. Aizen basically talked down to him the whole time and foreshadowed his eventual downfall with the last comments about ensuring the remove one that is considered a threat, basicay telling Ywach subtly that he considers him a threat that he'd have to deal with if he got free. I doubt, at that point in the story, Ywach had the power to kill or even restrain Aizen. If he had freed Aizen his military force would have dwindled within a short span because Aizen would have killed a chunk of the Stern Ritter himself and then set his sights on the Quincy king right after. Ywach was smart to leave him in Muken. As Mayuri stated later, muken is for prisoners who cant be killed for some reason or another. I doubt that is just a shinigami being unable to stop their heart. Ywach at that point was powerful enough to challenge Aizen but not capable of killing him and no one under him could have posed a threat to Aizen.
I love the Aizen/Kyoraku interactions, Aizen is smarter but Kyoraku is still able to talk to Aizen in a way that works for him, and convince him to help. I do wonder why he didn't use that same trick when Kyoraku went down though.
I think Soul King Yhwach wouldn't have much problem killing Aizen, but it's interesting that even in the beginning of the TYBW Yhwach is capable of sealing Aizen whether it's kinda same as Urahara or some different way.
@@gralegambino1433 it's seems you don't understand that Yhwach can absorb any powers, if he can absorb Mimihagi and soul king then he without a doubt can do the same with Aizen who isn't as powerful as soul king
@@kingwill1623 maybe he couldn't because he was busy fighting Ichigo and being shot by Uryu Arrow? Come on man, turn on your brain. If it was 1 vs 1 all Yhwach have to is to catch Aizen then it's no problem to absorb him
I feel like this also sheds some light on the odd interaction between Aizen and Kyoraku later where it appears that Aizen is free from his bonds. He may have been using his hypnosis to satisfy his own ego as he probably didn’t like being seen as helplessly bound up. Just my thoughts on it, anyway.
Taking it a step further, the fact that his eye and mouth appear unbound to Ywach might be the clue that he is indeed under the hypnosis. You don’t need to speak when you can make someone hallucinate your voice.
I simply don’t see that being the case because Kubo would not write that scene with that thought in mind. You don’t have a character look like a badass if it’s meant to be a front when they’re one of the most hype and most powerful characters in the series.
How aizen knew he should change yhwach perception of time? Didnt yhwach said something like"killing you would take too long"? Aizen probably was thinking " too long? Why? Are you in a hurry? Would be a shame if i make you waste time here"
I have a feeling that ywhach couldn’t sense Aizen’s reiatsu in the same way that rukia couldn’t sense the hollow attacking ichigo’s family ALL the way at the start. If he flooded the entire area from BEFORE Yuha got there, then Yuha would only think that was what Muken itself felt like (especially if Aizen compounds the effects using KS).
Its weird that Yhwach never recruited shinigami into the vandenreich. I suppose he didnt need to due to the medallions having the ability to steal bankai of captains with similar reiatsu.
whatever ability Yhwach was using at the end of the Bleach manga seemed to stem from the Soul King and completely consumed Aizen with no visible trace of a body left yet later we find out he is fine I think Aizen is truly immortal and there is no way to put him down for good although end of series Yhwach obviously temporarily took Aizen out of the equation and could have found a way to subdue him like the Soul Society did
Id imagine that maybe it'd take time for yhwach to "digest" aizen in that state. Seeing as he was put down pretty quickly after he absorbed aizen maybe it wasn't enough time? Or another funny idea, what if yhwach actually did when. Would aizen just be inside yhwach fighting to get out for all eternity if he couldn't be destroyed?
Yhwach wanted to revert back to the original world because he could not bear to feel the death of every soul that returned to him. Aizen wanted to prove that Shinigami are nothing more than cogs in a machine. That the world can easily be turned upside down. I'm actually with Aizen on that front. If people don't have to be afraid anymore they will not evolve courage to move on in life. Animals in captivity get dumber because they don't have to fear predators anymore. He would never join someone like Yhwach who wants to live in the past
Anyone know or guess when we can expect cour 3 trailer(like march or april)? Cause kubo said he is gonna add more aizen and ukitake scenes in cour 3. And really want taguchi to focus more on bleach than other anime as he focused on other anime than cour 2.
The most likely release is July at the earliest and October at the latest. I doubt it'll be in april,because if it was,we'd already have gotten the release date in the trailers,since we're almost only 2 months away from that.
@@brazu9864I think we can expect a trailer in march as there is an event called anime japan on 23-24 march+ several anime making there announcements so I think we can expect bleach too.
This makes an interesting what if storyline, like how do you think things would’ve played out if Yhwach took the time to either kill or take Aizen during the first invasion instead of just leaving him, & as a result Yhwach doesn’t have time to kill Yamamoto or steal his bankai, so the soul reapers would still have him on their team going forward but no Aizen
Wouldn't Aizen have been the better replacement for the soul king, fully truly redeeming him. If his shikai is single hypnosis, thereby make reality shift for one, his bankai could then shift reality for everyone, creating worlds on his own and keeping them stabilized. It fits also with the workings of the hogyaku and his immortality.
Which brings to the point that uryu would never had the chance to use his special skill over yhwach had not aizen already influenced him by kyoka suigetsu
Weird question, but I've been thinking about the Hokyoku for a while now.... Just what could Kisuke stitch together with his bankai if he was fused with a hokyoku? Dimensions possibly?
My understanding of Ywach going to speak with Aizen was to sell the fake to Yama. Ywach couldn't be anywhere Yama might detect or find him and end up not exhausting himself, so he took a hail mary with recruiting Aizen. A mistake for sure, but the purpose of going to muken seems to me to be hiding the real Ywach until Yama can be killed.
Something I never noticed until just now. Yhwach was directly related to Soul King and then absorbed the Soul King. Which means he embodys the everything the Soul King is. Aizen wanted to destory the Soul King and stand at the top of everything. Aizen let Yhwach go and achieve his goal which by killing and absorbing the Soul King, and Yhwach took down the Zero division which was also a great threat to Aizen, once that was done Aizen joined the fight and helped directly take down Yhwach. Which means Aizen was able to essentially complete his goal by destroying the Soul King. Now all his main threats are dealt with and only one person truly remains thats capable of threatening him now is Ichigo.
@@haku1384 NaNaNa was only able to do this because of the muken outfit that Aizen is wearing, it leaves holes in the user's reiatsu, Byakuya was not hit by NaNaNa's ability nor PePe's love as he was using an Ōken made by Senjumaru.
You should do another Aizen vs Squad 0 video because of the additions in the anime, personality I think Aizen can't win against Senjumaru let alone Ichibei.
Not really aizen had soul kings part in him and according to klub outside ichibei can't do shit against aizen/his power's don't work on him, also you're forgetting hogyoku involves aizen to overcome whatever the situation
Multiverse shaking senjumaru is an anime expansion. You cant scale anime 0 division to manga aizen. Wait till we get a good look at aizen in the anime. The 0 squad have been graced with power "by" the soul king, But transcendents like Ichigo and Aizen can replace the soul king. If the 0 division were that strong, they would have no reason to fatten up ichigo as a back up, as they could just do that to literally anyone.
Aizen still beats senjumaru though, he is able to go toe to toe with sk almighty yhwach albeit for a short moment (the entire final fight was short anyways), but ichibei gets one-tapped by just almighty yhwach and senjumaru is weaker than ichibei.
I see Ywach during the first invasion being genuinely afraid of Aizen as without the almighty Aizen could quite comfortably kill Ywach if he was freed at the time.
I think Aizen’s plan in delaying Ywach was to give the soul society time to eliminate the Sternritter and let the captains gang up on Ywach when he emerged. I think Aizen overestimated the soul society’s ability to fight the Quincy
I assume that Bach COULD kill Aizen, he can literally make his own powers after all. I'm sure there is some cheat way to do it. But Bach doesn't actually know *how* so he'd have to spend hours trying different things to find something that could work, which just wasn't worth it.
2:50 just no, first of all if Aizen was captured trust me, Yamamoto of all people would kill him immediately he wanted to sacrifice him as well as many other captains in fake Karakura town just to kill Aizen as he said so himself. The problem is Yamamoto could not kill Aizen. Yamamoto flames are his Reiatsu, its being so strong and condensed to the point of being visible as flames and being able to vaporize things, there is many actual proves that its reiatsu, first what Hashwalt said when Yamamoto stated heat is 15 milion degrees is true, flames of that temperature wouldnt be in that form, and it is his reiatsu, another prove is Ichigo after finishing talk with barely alive Byakuya starts vaporizing rain with his reiatsu. Aizen on the other hand have reiatsu so strong that it is even above yamamoto, and what did Bleach first teach you ? when 2 reiatsu collide stronger one always win, aizen even nullified Soi Fon shikai with his overpowered reiatsu... I am not saying that Aizen is nullifying Yamamoto completelly, Yama could still cut him and do stuff but his reiatsu(his flames) are not on Aizen level for them to be able to vaporize him. He could burn his clothes and give him some little burnmarks like he did with Hado 96 and thats all...
Yama stomps aizen stop fanboying, he woulda never made wonderwise and he hadn't fully been subjugate to hyokoku or however you say it. Yama claps him in bankai but didn't go all out cause he didn't wanna destroy the human world. How you gone watch the anime an deviate from it with bs fanboy theory just stop
Ive always thought that a logical reason as to how yhwach could defeat aizen would be to absorb the hoguyoku itself because it is also made from a piece of the soul king. If yhwach can absorb main soul king body himself than why not a small piece?
@@aiya5777 true but I'd imagine that the full body of the soulking would be stronger/ offer more protection that the nail of the soul king plus a few thousand Shinigami souls
If aizen could flood muken with his rietsu and altar anyones perception, why wouldnt he have altered time dilation to have made it seem like his sentence had been completed
@@aiya5777 No he literally never tries to escape. He does seem like the kind that would wait til perfect moment. So could be hes waiting until hogyoku has made him even more powerful
many people think that aizen fused with his zanpakuto is an op buff, but many people didn't know that it would be his biggest weakness bc when aizen touch his opponent kyoka suigetsu ability is stop working
yep, myb that's why fake Ichigo turned into aizen after Bach touched him, or stabbed him even then, still no bankai myb the bankai version could fix it
shinji would be struggling in 1v1 battle against an espada but with his bankai activated, he could solo all of em at once while sitting and drinking coffee like a boss
this is actually some very interesting information we got here. I am not saying Aizen would outright be able to beat SK Yhwach, but it really does appear that Aizen's shikai powers were still in effect even when it wasn't at full power. As we know, his powers will always last on the victim, which makes me believe that it was enough to change the future what Yhwach was seeing in their final battle. As Aizen isn't able to fully know what the victim is seeing while under KS's limited effect, i am curious to know what future Yhwach was seeing anyway. As MrTommo was suggesting, it appears that yhwach seeing KS's blade was an illusion itself, because Aizen didn't know what Yhwach was seeing until he reveals it to be Ichigo. Would Aizen be able to manifest his blade and 're-activate' KS to be able to use its full effect? Yhwach wouldn't be able to see this future since he was effected by KS anyway. Would this change anything? Maybe. I presumed KS wasn't able to effect someone after they died, which is why Yhwach was able to come back and caught Aizen off guard. But since there is a high chance that KS wasn't at full power, could KS's full power effect its victim as well after they resurrect? I think this new piece of information makes the final fight a bit more clear, but also gives us reason to believe that Aizen at full power might have a better shot at fighting Yhwach. I am not a die hard fan of Bleach (though it is my favourite anime), so let me know if i got something wrong as well! i am interested to hear people's thoughts on this match-up as well
Aizen has always been at his full .what are you saying. And for sk yhwach, ks could deal with the A only because yhwach was trapped before even the activation of the latter. Remember that , once you get trapped by ks, it's over , no matter how strong you are , your 5 senses will be affected Now what is interesting is certainly the fact that people like ichigo or jugram can sense KS and therefore deduce at which exact moment , aizen uses it. For ichigo, it was previsible since he had already withnessed it in the past but jugram, it's still a mystery or he is just a genius , that would explain why aizen has never used it on kisuke during their fight
@@KingRoot-ie9qh would you say Aizen was always at his full if the effect of KS was limited as this new info could suggest? Yhwach was indeed trapped before the Almighty got activated so as you said, the effect will be able to mess with his 5 senses. But i would say that Aizen using the full effect (so using the blade) makes him stronger because then he would be able to know what yhwach is seeing. I think that Aizen would be able to fight Yhwach better if he knew what illusions he made is what i am trying to get at.
@@SoulXx21 what are you talking about ? Did you read the manga ? We know for certain that aizen's reiatsu has always been at full because it was stated in the manga ( by aizen himself lol ). Did you even read the part with mayuri ? Reiatsu is produced by heart , to touch somebody's reiatsu ( decrease it or etc) , you gotta make his heart stop beating and if aizen is in the muken, it's because they haven't found a way yet to stop his heart from beating. Aizen himself was getting mad at them because they were making a foul outta him , when they thought he hadn't noticed that his reiatsu was still at his full . Now for the rest, you gotta come again but with more détails this time pls.
@@KingRoot-ie9qh well i wasn’t really talking about reiatsu. I never said his reiatsu was or wasn’t at full but i probably wasn’t really clear on what i was trying to say so i ll try again: With the new info, we know better how KS works after it merged with its wielder. We know that KS’s effect ‘differs’ depending on how Aizen uses it: when the blade is manifested, Aizen can use KS just as he did against his battle against all the captains. He controls all 5 senses and can make them feel, see, smell etc. what he wants them to. But again, this only applies when the sword is visible. Aizen can however use KS withouth manifesting his blade, which happened against Yhwach, tho he doesn’t fully control its effect. His comment after Yhwach is realizing that he is holding him in the final battle suggest he didn’t know Ichigo was what Yhwach was seeing (until Yhwach revealed this of course). You can compare this with Kido as MrTommo said in the video. Aizen using KS without manifesting its blade could be compared to using a kido without incantation. Meaning the kido, KS in this case, isn’t at full effect or power. Which seems to be the case in this fight as well. Long story short, Aizen wasn’t using the full extend of KS’s effect when facing Yhwach(again, he was able to alter Yhwach senses but he didn’t know what Yhwach was exactly seeing. But what if Aizen effected Yhwach with KS and ‘its full incantation’/its blade? I think Aizen would be able to control the fight much better since he knows/controls what Yhwach is perceiving with his 5 senses. This would imo give Aizen a better chance at handling Yhwach if Ichigo didn’t appear and it was a 1v1. Just my thoughts tho x’D
@@SoulXx21 Aizen has no chance against SK Yhwach, he can at best stall for a while. Yhwach was pushing Aizen's limits casually even before Ichigo arrived. Yhwach can revive himself endlessly and can eventually overcome KS as we saw in that fight.
What do you think about the new details surrounding this meeting between Yhwach and Aizen? How would things have been different in TYBW if Aizen had joined the Wandenreich? Maybe that's a what-if video we should look at one day... Let me know your thoughts below!
The thumbnail is so cool!
can you make video of hypotisy that what if aizen indeed joined the wandenreich would there be anyway to beat them ???
Yamaji was able to tell he was fighting aizen when aizen peirced him. SK Yhwach was not able to tell he was fighting aizen even though his arm was inserted into aizen.
Idk if you take suggestions but if you do then i have a few of them
1.kyoraku shunsui vs jugrem haschwalth
2.kyoraku shunsui vs askin nakk le vaar
3.mayuri kurotsuchi vs gremmy themouex
4.aizen sosuke vs kurosaki ichigo(during the tybw arc)
5.fake yhwach vs jugrem haschwalth
6.real yhwach vs Yamamoto at full strength
7.urahara kisuke vs shunsui kyoraku
8.shinigami aizen vs fake yhwach
9.urahara kisuke vs pernida pankgjas
10.mayuri kurotsuchi vs askin nakk le vaar
11.how you would've done the final battle of bleach
12.what if urahara kisuke did turn evil
Yhwach sees Aizen without the eyepatch nor the mouth seal, a strong hint that he's already under the Aizen's influence.
Aizen's Bankai is called "Total Narration" where he literally takes control of Tite Kubos' body.
I always assumed that the reason Aizen didn't know which illusion Yhwach saw was because Yhwach can pick and choose which future to exist in and alter to his benefit, but there is no future where Aizen isn't spamming illusions. Only Yhwach knows which future he picked, so Aizen has no way of knowing which illusion is in play. I think it is unlikely that he would be using the same one in all futures, so it makes sense that he was unsure what Yhwach saw.
Another possible way to interpret that is Aizen being at least partially impressed by his own illusions even working on The Almighty, so him saying "I see, so you see me as Ichigo Kurosaki," with some translations even trailing off for a second saying "fascinating..." could be him reveling at the fact his hypnosis even works on Yhwach.
OR it could be your idea that the illusions seen were technically picked by Yhwach.
OR it could be the idea that, with the idea of him using hypnosis without manifesting his sword is like using a kido with no chant, maybe the weaker hypnosis is something he doesn't fully control.
There are a lot of possibilities, but I've always felt the idea that he just doesn't control his own hypnosis anymore to be really odd. So I'll take any interpretation that isn't that.
@@XFG_Official Yeah, I agree. Even if it was a situation where the Complete (sometimes called Perfect) Hypnosis ability (or the hypnosis ritual) was "weaker"...how do you weaken COMPLETE hypnosis?
Going further, this would mean even a weaker version of the ability is enough to affect The Almighty.
It makes the most sense to me that Ywhach is using his ability and Aizen is using his ability, but Aizen cannot see what Yhwach sees through The Almighty and Yhwach can see everything INCLUDING all the illusions that Aizen is spamming in all futures, he just has no way to tell what is illusion and what is not.
I wonder if Kubo will ever flesh this out a bit, maybe answer the question in the anime by expanding the fight to include the explanation.
To add to the discussion. A 3rd possibility is that when he uses the illusion this way he cannot control what you see. It is supposed to be weaker afterall.
Another consideration is you have to remember this Aizen first time using his evolved kyoka suigetsu fully.... by the things he said, it felt like he was experimenting what it can do now.
I alway thought it was just him being a troll because yhwach maybe the comment that ks didn’t work on him so aizen was just being a smartass about it
I really like what ya'll are saying about Aizen just can't see which illusion Ywhach chooses but he can affect it 🤔
I love the whole “Bad guy from past arc helps fight bigger baddie” trope.
It was damn-near perfection when Frieza helped Goku finish Jiren(he wasn’t really a villain but still), and seeing Aizen stand with Ichigo against Yhwach was just as good.
Heres a fun one: Ichigo has two baddies from earlier arcs whose powers radically alter the past (Tsukishima) and the present (Aizen) help him defeat an enemy who can control the future.
I love that scene in super, it was just so damn good all the way through. Both in English dub and Japanese sub
@@remingtonsummers8014 our uncle Tsukishima isn't a baddie he's a really nice person who raised us both yet you repay his good deeds with these insults ... the audacity Tsukishima is a hero wouldn't hurt a fly and ended up winning the war by himself
@@Deliverance253 Frieza helping is trash 🗑️.
Aizen helping defeat Ywach was great for sure... by Freeza coming back to help beat Jiren was TRASH 🗑️🚮. If you are a die hard DBZ/DB fan you'd know that Freeza represents pure evil.
The WHOLE point of showing Vegeta before Freeza was more than just a power scaling thing...Toriyama had DBZ made to end at the Namek Saga...The reason Toriyama introduces Vegeta first was to add perspective on who was truly evil ...I'm not going to dissect Vegeta completely bc you should know his character but in a quick summary Vegeta was bad bc of his upbringing..
Vegeta conquering other planets was a job/duty bc Freeza had the Saiyans in his control, Vegeta did love fighting but also didn't show any mercy bc he had nothing left after Freeza destroyed planet Vegeta... Freeza killed just to kill...and at the end of the Namek Saga you had Goku (pure of heart) Vs Freeza (wicked)..if you change ANYTHING about Freeza you in turn shit on DBZ.. literally DBZs best arc and one of animes best villains turns to shit.
Yhwach's mistake was going to Aizen at all. Aizen never plays second fiddle to anyone or anything no matter who they are, or how powerful they may be. His god tier ego can't allow it. Aizen's mocking was certainly about Yhwach wanting to change the worlds just as the Shinigami ancestors did so with their ambitions. A meeting of titans ends with one continuing his path, the other still biding his time.
Indeed. It also adds to the symbolism of them both, with the Son of God seeking out help from the Devil, and in doing so ensures his own downfall.
@@jrgenvellesen7800 Truth. Aizen wanted to expand upon that to Soul Society in the aftermath when he tried to communicate the truth to Ichigo, Shunsui and Urahara stopped that by having his mouth sealed and then taken away immediately. In the end as mentioned Aizen only needs to wait, Soul Society's own secrets and corruption will be their end. It's all but stated their reforms are just cosmetic while the rot remains.
Aizen was not a mistake Yhwach paid for at all since no matter how you look at it Aizen didn't really add up to his downfall because Aizen went down before the conditions for Yhwach's defeat were ready
i would argue that his actual mistake was empowering Ishida *that's what got him killed*
talking to Aizen was a minor one
if anything meeting Ichibei 1000+ years ago was an even bigger one than meeting Aizen because that made him temporarily lose Almighty wich ended up with him being defeated by Yamajii
It wasn't a mistake in the end since his Kyouka Suigetsu didn't do anything to beat him at all. He just gave a job offer and was declined. Simple as that
Aizen put Yhwach under Kyoka Suigetsu. He saved Ichigo during the first invasion
The use of colour and overall aesthetic of Muken during this scene was SO good. And seeing Yhwach and Aizen’s meeting was a great way to set up their inevitable clash at the end of the arc.
It looks a whole lot like Evangelion and where Lilith is kept.
What I love about Aizen is you don’t really know what he is.
What is he thinking?
What’s his Bankai?
What does he truly want to achieve?
What’s the Hogyoku?
What was his origin story?
Less is more and Kubo perfected it.
Naw the lack of information is just grating after a while, it makes it seem as though that a character is doing something just because which is pretty lazy unless his character is all about that. But we know Aizen isn't, he has a set goal, he's a beautiful painting with no color.
Personally, I think Aizen is a perfect fit for a Soul King candidate.
@@maylabrown4584that's your opinion...but I think Aizen is perfect just how he is.
@@maylabrown4584 Kubo knows that well used mystery is a positive. Great mangakas like the late kentaro Miura (Rip) also knew this. Its why aizen is so interesting.
Keep it as mysterious as possible will be good. Better than backstories
I must say, it was so refreshing to see Aizen talk down to another villain on his level. Usually we only ever see him demean the Shinigami or his Arrancars, but his interactions with Yhwach display just how all encompassing his ego is. There is no being superior to Aizen, and the mere suggestion of such a thing means you're liable to get flamed with some biblical insults. GOAT villain.
Aizen planned for this video 100%
I am a big fan of the headcannon that aizen just affected ywachs sense of time for fun. He did it because he could and its a flex
Seems the most likely honestly. Aizen probably figured something would come of it, but he likely wasnt concerned about the details. Dude was just bored and wanted to troll.
@@jeepdino7353 that does fit very well for Aizen
When has aizen done anything without a reason though. Everything he has ever done in bleach has had a reason. I don't think that would change
@@christopherbanks1341 true, but not everything he has ever done has been 5th dimensional chess level. When shiro attacked Misaki aizen didnt think it would result in ichigo and that aizen could use him 30 years later to evolve himself. He was just interested and wanted to see what would happen.
@@christopherbanks1341he loves to flex and troll though. I would like to see a buddy cop story with Aizen and Urahara playing good cop bad cop
It’s gonna be so exciting to see how they adapt the fight between these two. I think there will definitely be some cool additions to this fight!
Get ready for a special anime adaptation of this fight because the original was far too short. It’s going to be god like.
They will most likely add stuff, even explain how kyoka suigetsu has evolved, and fully demonstrate what that level 99 kido can do. Maybe this time Aizen does it with the full chant.
What i really want is to hear the word "Bankai" from Aizen in the Anime, altough i really cant find a fitting one for him, his shikai is allready so damn strong lol
WHAT a thumbnail holy moly those visuals never disappoint. I can always spot your videos out miles away
There's no way Aizen's Kanzen Saimin is weaker without his blade. It was still powerful enough to temporarily counter the Almighty. The reason Aizen was wondering what Yhwach was seeing is probably because he didn't know how it would affect a being that powerful.
Yep... but he did manifest the sword when fighting Juha which then strengthened the illusions. The fact that it was the only power to even stand up to the Almighty directly is one of the greatest feats in Bleach.
@@Ephideltrance Not really since Yhwach believed Ichigo's had a chance to break him *I say believed but he mostly likely saw a future where he was killed by it so just decided to bring forth a future where he didn't get killed by the attack and destroyed his bankai essentially it's like a glitch in a game where you die to a boss numerous times and you win in twelve instances of you facing that boss but instead of facing it in this one particular round you just bring out the save file and overwrite the previous one you break the game and the mechanics by simply making it look like you already faced the enemy and won. Even with his Almighty that's why he destroyed his Bankai before he released it as, for aizen he just didn't give a shit since as we see soon enough he negated Kyoka Suigetsu easily after a single moment even after he was affected by it which just shows that whether he was attacked by it or not he could adapt and use the almighty to just bypass it completely it was a flex in of itself and he didn't need to break it. He even mocks him thinking that Aizen thinks it would actually work since Yhwach didn't take precautions against it which is already a big insult. The only way they caught him off guard was Still Silver being involved.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871Ywach actually does 'break' KS. It's in the fight chapter. You see KS cracking and Aizen reacting shocked. Now, it was probably a misdirection by Aizen since he probably used his hypnosis to Manifest the blade and make Ywach think he was fighting with his zanpaktout the while time. But Ywach does in fact think he broke KS. KS is what gave Ichigo a direct opening unchallenged or unseen. It's why it's a significant feat in itself. There were only two powers that were worthy to stand against the Almighty. Kyoka Suigetsu and Book of the End. Those are facts. KS affected the Almighty by altering what Ywach 'sees' in the future. Aizen creates what Ywach sees, so Aizen in that moment controls the Almighty. Bppk of the End can alter the past, hence restoring Ichigoa zanpaktou after it was broken, an ability the Almighty couldn't see coming or change. Neither were capable of killing him, but both posed a threat equally.
The fact that Aizen can put you under Kyōka Suigetsu with just his spiritual pressure, as well as doing it to someone like Yhwach, is a MINDBOGGLING upgrade for someone who's only been in Muken for a year. As it's been said before and will be said many more times in the future, meeting Aizen was one of the biggest mistakes of Yhwach's whole damn life.
But at that moment , yhwach was a bit weak , in fact, he was weaker than when he faced ichibei.
Also, Ks is not that perfect huh, jugram / ichigo can sense it , for ichigo , he said it was because he had already sensed it before but for jugram, i guess it was maybe because he's smart enough to notice ; if yhwach had done the same it'd have been good as f..
Anyways , you are right yhwach's big mistake was : meeting aizen
@@KingRoot-ie9qh Sensing it and resisting it are two different things. That ichigo is not under the effects is simply because Aizen chose not to place him. He said it himself in the final battle.
Say you sensed KS. You now have to win the reiatsu battle to resist its effects. How many people have more alot more reiatsu than Aizen? Remember he doesnt have to beat you in the reiatsu battle. He simply has to be relative for it to work (see like how Yama was affected when he was at the time clearly higher than Aizen?)
@alispeed5095 mean ywatch still destroyed aizen regardless of his Kyoko suigetsu or not
Aizen be filling Muken with his power
I wish i was muken.....🤌
Id be curious to see a Soul Society ruled by Aizen.
the fact that aizen can put someone under a slightly weaker kyoka suigetsu with just his reiatsu is actually insane, the hogyoku is genuinely so insane. imagine a character like ichigo merging with the hogyoku instead
Yhwach: Thanks to you Ichigo Kurosaki I can now invade the Royal Palace!
Ichigo: ...
Yhwach: ...What? Why are you looking at me like that?
Ichigo: If you're gonna invade how come you're still here and Aizen's the one going up?
Yhwach: ....Shit!
2:50 Mugetsu did vaporize Aizen. Actually, more than vaporize, it existence erased him since 1.) He has transcendent power compared to Aizen, which was shown to existence erase people and 2.) His Quincy powers from Quincy Zangetsu were unknowingly being used, and Quincy erase souls
Aizen being still alive after it's used means he wasn't vaporized. Quincy only erase hollows as numeroes shinigami still keep their bodies and reiatsu after getting killed by the Stern Ritter
@@jordantinucci3509in the anime is waa clearly shown that Aizen's bidy was pulverized by the mugetsu, but his immortality saved him by reconstructing his body.
@@xenoemblem7 true but that's the anime, they change stuff all the time
@@jordantinucci3509in the manga he was vaporised too. There is no way an attack that envelops an entire valley will just cut you in half. If that is the case it is an incredibly lame technique.
@@Ephideltrance That would be more than enough to kill almost anyone
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It's crazy how some people still think that Aizen's comment, "So you see me as Kurosaki Ichigo?", was suggesting that he didn't know what illusion Yhwach was seeing. By this point everyone should've realized that everything Aizen says to someone is either mockery or gaslighting. Like how the hell would fusing with your zanpakuto suddenly make you weaker? Or make your control lesser for that matter? Sh*t doesn't make one bit of sense, honestly speaking.
Aizen's comment was just his way of mocking Yhwach because prior to that moment, Yhwach boasted that he already broke Aizen's sword, so the reveal at the end made it humiliating for him. Also, Aizen was fascinated at the fact that he was able to interfere with the Almighty. This was proven yet again when after the real Ichigo showed up and attacked Yhwach, Aizen talked to him about how he was able to deduce that his powers can affect the Almighty and he used that to distract Yhwach so that Ichigo can attack him.
There was nothing to suggest that Aizen doesn't know what illusion he gave Yhwach or that he doesn't have control over his powers at all. That was just Aizen being Aizen, plain simple.
This is accurate. Even with ywach future abilities, once someone is under KS it's clipped and aizen activate it instantly at any moment as showed w momo and toshiro and a countless slew of other captains.
If anything it would simply make sense ywach can't see it because it's an illusion.
The fact that Yhwach even offered Aizen a place in his army shows how arrogant he is.
Aizen would never serve anyone. Yhwach should’ve known as much.
If they had Aizen it would make things a ton easier.
One of the coolest thumbnail and titles I’ve ever seen
Aizen must have used Complete Hypnosis to prevent Yhwach from sensing his reiatsu.
If I'm not mistaken, his hypnosis only works on phisical senses, it does not affect things like sense of reiatsu, that's why in Fake Karakura when Aizen stabs Yamamoto, Yamamoto is sure that Aizen is actually in front of him, because he can sense reiatsu of his blade inside of himself.
I just realized how Aizen can pass time without going insane being in that chair all alone, he can create illusions on himself to be in some sort of virtual reality kind of state. Holy crap, he could be doing anything from just having fun to creating scenarios in his head to predict outcomes in case scenarios.
Interesting you took Aiden fusion with his Zanpakuto as a downgrade
I considered it a massive upgrade as it now has the ability to see one’s soul true fears/desires/etc
Which is why when Aizen said interesting you see me as Ichigo as aizen himself doesn’t know the depths of what is cast with the upgrade. As before he would tell the person this is what you will see.
This is much more powerful as it is specialized to the person and is unique only to them. At the cost that Aizen is unable to see what is that persons soul reflects
I suspect that when Aizen released his ability he wanted Yhwach to fight his most feared opponent. Aizen didn’t know that Yhwach thought it was Ichigo instead of himself. Again this Aizen stunned comment to Yhwach that he saw Ichigo.
Upgrades ability to me. And can probably still do the original version.
What do you think?
I agree, the only thing beyond a Bankai is called "Transcendence" wich is further bonding with your Zanpakto so that you become one with it and reach that new threshold of power. If anyone else was paying attention Aizen made it pretty damn clear
So excited to see more of aizen in the next season
Godly thumbnail.
THANK GOD FOR THE ANIME
Aizen commenting on viewing him as Ichigo wasn't an admission he didn't know what Yuha was seeing, he was just flexing his Lol face with his normal arrogance to belittle Yuha.
In my opinion …aizen pulled the greatest troll in anime history when he revealed that it was him ywach was attacking and not ichigo
I've heard that line talked about like he couldn't see what Yhwach was seeing, but personally I don't think that's the case given the grander context. I think he was just mocking Yhwach and playing with the shock the "all seeing" God got tricked with a mirror flower.
its a parallel to what YWACH did against Yamamoto. Both ended up tricked by someone who at the moment looked exactly like the opponent they were after, only for the real one to come from behind when the truth of the deception is revealed.
He Momo'ed himself
@@xx_z.bruh_xx6916 full circle
Bleach was my favorite anime growing up, always felt like a comfort show for me to watch, but after watching the first 2 parts of tybw my mind was blown. The anime went from arguably my favorite bc of nostalgia to my favorite bc of how badass the final act (so far) was
You should make a video exploring what the sole society would look like under Aizen’s rule . Would it really be worse than what the ruling class has been doing all this time?
It’s like replacing a dictator with another dictator.
You could say Aizen expanded his Domain in Muken
It would be fun to see you make a video on who you think the top 10 most powerful characters in the series are
I was just speaking about this on twitter about Kyouka Suigetsu's parameters and caveats. Aizen's powerful reiatsu mitigated his swords weaknesses the stronger he became.
I wouldnt say it's out of question that the influence and control of his illusions might wane/dilute if aomeone of equal or greater power is the target. Perhaps this is simply territory Aizen isnt too familiar with?
Considering Aizen's was glad he hadn't ever hypnotized Ichigo prior to the confrontation with Yhwach, it seems that there are some element of control Aizen lacks over his illusions. You would think he could just free someone from his spell/influence them at will. But again, Ichigo isn't your average (captain level) soul.
***I also heard Kenpachi Zaraki's swelling power has supposedly broken him free of KS's hold in the novel. If so, Kenpachi can either "cut"/destroy all things and phenomenon, Aizen's power comes with caveats like every other zanpakuto, or reiatsu scaling is at play. Maybe more...
Considering most of these guys powers comes from the Soul King, it really puts into perspective how strong Reio was when he was whole.
13:10 The enemy commander went into prison while the battle outside was in full swing. There are only two reasons for that:
1. The enemy is a idiot with no planning skills.
2. The enemy was under a time limit, and had to get as much done as possible in the short amount of time.
Yhwach did not seem to fit 1, so 2 it had to be.
- It is also possible Yhwach entered by "shifting over" within Aizens sensory range.
- It is also quite possible that Aizen knew of the Wandenreich before the soul society arc. He did go out of his way not to kill most captains. Like he needed them for a future war.
Between Complete Hypnosis, Kidos that hide you and his spy drones - he might have been roughly aware what dimension the Wandenreich was hiding in. And what the rules for crossing over were.
Azien needs his own series😂😂
"Welcome to MY soul society"
To be real with you I don't think Pre-Almighty Yhwach would've stood a snowballs chance in hell against Aizen. I would've loved to see Aizen vs all of the Sternritter
True ,tybw aizen, monster aizen, dangai ichigo and above will fodderize yhwach since both of them were transcendent beings at that point( while ichigo lost his power and aizen got sealed and later ichigo attains even greater power and also a transcended being)
Yhwach even at the eos was powerful because of his hax while both aizen and ichigo had better stats.
Base yhwach stands no chance but he will definitely give him some trouble
That's a mid diff .
Now asking aizen vs all sternritters,
That's basically overrating aizen.
Clearly knowing that , jugram A was called the strongest enemy ever during the 660th chapter meaning for kubo, jugram A > aizen.
The way i see it .
Uryu , jugram both post auswalhen can both give some trouble to aizen especially if they use their vollstandig but he will win .
It's extreme diff.
Please stop overrrating aizen by saying aizen vs all sternritters .
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Lol do you even know that base yhwach had a transcendent reiatsu wtf are you even saying ?
Didn't you guy see jugram's backstory ?
His simple presence killed an entire village of quincies lol .
So for you, a normal person can do that ?
Aizen 3rd form had to come close to human to kill them with his presence when yhwach could do better with quincy while being far from them.
And it was yhwach 1000 ago. Lol
You are clearly underrestimating base yhwach ( vs ichibei )
@KingRoot-ie9qh if that was the case then Yhwach after absorbing the Soul King would've absolutely wiped the floor with Aizen and he wouldn't have been able to do anything except lay on the floor. If he was so low on the ladder then he wouldn't have been involved in the final battle. It's not over rating him, he was able to solo the entire Gotei 13 and then got stronger after being locked in Muken, if you think he wouldn't stand a chance against all of them then you're genuinely tripping.
@@isaacbrown4506 lol if it wasn't the case lmao
Yhwach was destroying both ichigo and aizen wtf are you even talking about.
And pls aizen being able to solo the gotei 13 ( so you are comparing , shinigamis who were all tired + injured + weaker at that moment compared to their tybw version with sternritters ? )
Bro you comparaison is just awfull lemme tell you that lol .
Royd , just to talk about him would destroy that version of aizen, you are talking about.
Aizen himself told kaname and gin : let them getting tired and weaker , it'd be easy for us to defeat them ;
The same aizen also confirmed that shikai Yamamoto > him and that same shikai Yamamoto barely hurt royd, in the manga and in the Anime, royd was bleeding a bit.
Lol isn't that enough for you to understand that royd > aizen fkt ?
But once again asking aizen vs sternritters is just overrating him , you are basing yourself on aizen vs yhwach ( when he got no diff by him untill ichigo comes ) ,
Now based on jugo' own words, uryu is a hard match for yhwach , what would you say now uryu > aizen ??? Lol
The interaction was much needed. In the manga, it left one wondering how that convo went but i could only have imagined Aizen talking down to him. Kubo delivered in the anime. Aizen basically talked down to him the whole time and foreshadowed his eventual downfall with the last comments about ensuring the remove one that is considered a threat, basicay telling Ywach subtly that he considers him a threat that he'd have to deal with if he got free. I doubt, at that point in the story, Ywach had the power to kill or even restrain Aizen. If he had freed Aizen his military force would have dwindled within a short span because Aizen would have killed a chunk of the Stern Ritter himself and then set his sights on the Quincy king right after. Ywach was smart to leave him in Muken. As Mayuri stated later, muken is for prisoners who cant be killed for some reason or another. I doubt that is just a shinigami being unable to stop their heart. Ywach at that point was powerful enough to challenge Aizen but not capable of killing him and no one under him could have posed a threat to Aizen.
I always took the “so I appear to you as Ichigo Kurosaki” as Aizen taunting Ywhach
2024 and people still do not understand Aizen literally is his sword as they have merged
Now that you Covered this You should do a video Going over the new information about the soulking Because it's very interesting
This just makes me want more up to date Bleach 3rd Phantom. One of my fav DS games.
Another Banger from Mr. Tommo🔥
I love the Aizen/Kyoraku interactions, Aizen is smarter but Kyoraku is still able to talk to Aizen in a way that works for him, and convince him to help. I do wonder why he didn't use that same trick when Kyoraku went down though.
I think Soul King Yhwach wouldn't have much problem killing Aizen, but it's interesting that even in the beginning of the TYBW Yhwach is capable of sealing Aizen whether it's kinda same as Urahara or some different way.
Yet he was bloodlusted and still couldn’t kill him ….. stop
@@gralegambino1433 it's seems you don't understand that Yhwach can absorb any powers, if he can absorb Mimihagi and soul king then he without a doubt can do the same with Aizen who isn't as powerful as soul king
@@saucerbaby6556eos Aizen is way stronger than the version of the Soul king Yhwach absorbed
@@saucerbaby6556he couldn’t kill Aizen in his strongest form if was a simple as that he would of absorbed him
@@kingwill1623 maybe he couldn't because he was busy fighting Ichigo and being shot by Uryu Arrow? Come on man, turn on your brain.
If it was 1 vs 1 all Yhwach have to is to catch Aizen then it's no problem to absorb him
I always took Aizen asking that was his surprise that it was working.
I feel like this also sheds some light on the odd interaction between Aizen and Kyoraku later where it appears that Aizen is free from his bonds. He may have been using his hypnosis to satisfy his own ego as he probably didn’t like being seen as helplessly bound up. Just my thoughts on it, anyway.
Taking it a step further, the fact that his eye and mouth appear unbound to Ywach might be the clue that he is indeed under the hypnosis. You don’t need to speak when you can make someone hallucinate your voice.
I simply don’t see that being the case because Kubo would not write that scene with that thought in mind. You don’t have a character look like a badass if it’s meant to be a front when they’re one of the most hype and most powerful characters in the series.
Someone needs to ask Kubo what Yhwach's Vollstandig is. Would be nice to know the name and function.
I doubt he has one it's the angelic form so the angels have it Yuhabaha is the "god" and has allmight so yeah
I wonder if tsukoshina could affect aizens hogyoku fusion in the past, I suppose the question of reiatsu would prevent him from doing so
How aizen knew he should change yhwach perception of time? Didnt yhwach said something like"killing you would take too long"? Aizen probably was thinking " too long? Why? Are you in a hurry? Would be a shame if i make you waste time here"
I always thought Aizen was just testing the water to see if he can affect yhwach because time altar is something the quincy king might not notice
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I have a feeling that ywhach couldn’t sense Aizen’s reiatsu in the same way that rukia couldn’t sense the hollow attacking ichigo’s family ALL the way at the start. If he flooded the entire area from BEFORE Yuha got there, then Yuha would only think that was what Muken itself felt like (especially if Aizen compounds the effects using KS).
Aizen's the best. I can't wait to see that final battle.
Its weird that Yhwach never recruited shinigami into the vandenreich. I suppose he didnt need to due to the medallions having the ability to steal bankai of captains with similar reiatsu.
Aizen x Ichigo vs Yhwach is my most anticipated fight in the cours to come
whatever ability Yhwach was using at the end of the Bleach manga seemed to stem from the Soul King and completely consumed Aizen with no visible trace of a body left yet later we find out he is fine
I think Aizen is truly immortal and there is no way to put him down for good although end of series Yhwach obviously temporarily took Aizen out of the equation and could have found a way to subdue him like the Soul Society did
Id imagine that maybe it'd take time for yhwach to "digest" aizen in that state. Seeing as he was put down pretty quickly after he absorbed aizen maybe it wasn't enough time?
Or another funny idea, what if yhwach actually did when. Would aizen just be inside yhwach fighting to get out for all eternity if he couldn't be destroyed?
Yhwach wanted to revert back to the original world because he could not bear to feel the death of every soul that returned to him.
Aizen wanted to prove that Shinigami are nothing more than cogs in a machine. That the world can easily be turned upside down.
I'm actually with Aizen on that front. If people don't have to be afraid anymore they will not evolve courage to move on in life. Animals in captivity get dumber because they don't have to fear predators anymore.
He would never join someone like Yhwach who wants to live in the past
Anyone know or guess when we can expect cour 3 trailer(like march or april)? Cause kubo said he is gonna add more aizen and ukitake scenes in cour 3. And really want taguchi to focus more on bleach than other anime as he focused on other anime than cour 2.
The most likely release is July at the earliest and October at the latest. I doubt it'll be in april,because if it was,we'd already have gotten the release date in the trailers,since we're almost only 2 months away from that.
@@brazu9864I think we can expect a trailer in march as there is an event called anime japan on 23-24 march+ several anime making there announcements so I think we can expect bleach too.
@@vaidikchauhan4382 there's no Bleach stall there so I think we might get info at Klub outside in Feb or Anime Expo in July
This makes an interesting what if storyline, like how do you think things would’ve played out if Yhwach took the time to either kill or take Aizen during the first invasion instead of just leaving him, & as a result Yhwach doesn’t have time to kill Yamamoto or steal his bankai, so the soul reapers would still have him on their team going forward but no Aizen
Am I the only one who is still wondering, why aizen doesn't use kyouka suigetsu on ichigo? he simply can't (then for what reason) or doesn't want to?
He can but it'd be useless .
Read the manga to find out why
(Ichigo aizen vs yhwach )
Wouldn't Aizen have been the better replacement for the soul king, fully truly redeeming him. If his shikai is single hypnosis, thereby make reality shift for one, his bankai could then shift reality for everyone, creating worlds on his own and keeping them stabilized. It fits also with the workings of the hogyaku and his immortality.
Yhwach: "Join me Sosuke Aizen."
Aizen: "Pass."
Yhwach: "Why not?"
Aizen: "I watched the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc. I know this goes."
Which brings to the point that uryu would never had the chance to use his special skill over yhwach had not aizen already influenced him by kyoka suigetsu
Weird question, but I've been thinking about the Hokyoku for a while now.... Just what could Kisuke stitch together with his bankai if he was fused with a hokyoku? Dimensions possibly?
best added scene in COUR 1
of course the best added scenes overall up to now are the 0 Squad fights
Wouldn't that mean Azashiro was in there with Aizen or was he in a different part of Mugen?
14:10 gave me deja vu
My understanding of Ywach going to speak with Aizen was to sell the fake to Yama. Ywach couldn't be anywhere Yama might detect or find him and end up not exhausting himself, so he took a hail mary with recruiting Aizen. A mistake for sure, but the purpose of going to muken seems to me to be hiding the real Ywach until Yama can be killed.
Next can he really shoot down the soul palace from were he seated?
Something I never noticed until just now.
Yhwach was directly related to Soul King and then absorbed the Soul King. Which means he embodys the everything the Soul King is.
Aizen wanted to destory the Soul King and stand at the top of everything. Aizen let Yhwach go and achieve his goal which by killing and absorbing the Soul King, and Yhwach took down the Zero division which was also a great threat to Aizen, once that was done Aizen joined the fight and helped directly take down Yhwach. Which means Aizen was able to essentially complete his goal by destroying the Soul King. Now all his main threats are dealt with and only one person truly remains thats capable of threatening him now is Ichigo.
Aizen made Yhwach see him as the one who he fears the most.
Wild that aizen cannonically cannot die and yet somehow he lost a death battle
They obviously researched bleach so well 🙄
I know they were tweaking when they said that it was aizen who destroyed the mountain.
being immortal doesn’t mean you can’t be defeated. like urahara sealing aizen or nanana rendering aizen immobile
@@haku1384 NaNaNa was only able to do this because of the muken outfit that Aizen is wearing, it leaves holes in the user's reiatsu, Byakuya was not hit by NaNaNa's ability nor PePe's love as he was using an Ōken made by Senjumaru.
@@matheusoliveira7727 I understand, but my point still stands
Have you done any manga vs anime of bleach
You should do another Aizen vs Squad 0 video because of the additions in the anime, personality I think Aizen can't win against Senjumaru let alone Ichibei.
Not really aizen had soul kings part in him and according to klub outside ichibei can't do shit against aizen/his power's don't work on him, also you're forgetting hogyoku involves aizen to overcome whatever the situation
Problem being Aizen can’t die and Hogyoku will just adapt to everything. Even if he can’t win in the beginning, he will have the ability by the end.
Multiverse shaking senjumaru is an anime expansion. You cant scale anime 0 division to manga aizen. Wait till we get a good look at aizen in the anime.
The 0 squad have been graced with power "by" the soul king,
But transcendents like Ichigo and Aizen can replace the soul king.
If the 0 division were that strong, they would have no reason to fatten up ichigo as a back up, as they could just do that to literally anyone.
@@jeepdino7353 bro the amount of anime only content we are gonna get is wild.
Aizen still beats senjumaru though, he is able to go toe to toe with sk almighty yhwach albeit for a short moment (the entire final fight was short anyways), but ichibei gets one-tapped by just almighty yhwach and senjumaru is weaker than ichibei.
I see Ywach during the first invasion being genuinely afraid of Aizen as without the almighty Aizen could quite comfortably kill Ywach if he was freed at the time.
I think Aizen’s plan in delaying Ywach was to give the soul society time to eliminate the Sternritter and let the captains gang up on Ywach when he emerged. I think Aizen overestimated the soul society’s ability to fight the Quincy
there is no video of Mrtommo about the noble families or the primordial world?
Ive always wondered can tsukishima's ability work on Aizen or Yhwach🤔
I assume that Bach COULD kill Aizen, he can literally make his own powers after all. I'm sure there is some cheat way to do it.
But Bach doesn't actually know *how* so he'd have to spend hours trying different things to find something that could work, which just wasn't worth it.
Its the seals he is still wearing that makes his sword powers weaker. All his power is.
2:50 just no, first of all if Aizen was captured trust me, Yamamoto of all people would kill him immediately he wanted to sacrifice him as well as many other captains in fake Karakura town just to kill Aizen as he said so himself. The problem is Yamamoto could not kill Aizen. Yamamoto flames are his Reiatsu, its being so strong and condensed to the point of being visible as flames and being able to vaporize things, there is many actual proves that its reiatsu, first what Hashwalt said when Yamamoto stated heat is 15 milion degrees is true, flames of that temperature wouldnt be in that form, and it is his reiatsu, another prove is Ichigo after finishing talk with barely alive Byakuya starts vaporizing rain with his reiatsu.
Aizen on the other hand have reiatsu so strong that it is even above yamamoto, and what did Bleach first teach you ? when 2 reiatsu collide stronger one always win, aizen even nullified Soi Fon shikai with his overpowered reiatsu...
I am not saying that Aizen is nullifying Yamamoto completelly, Yama could still cut him and do stuff but his reiatsu(his flames) are not on Aizen level for them to be able to vaporize him. He could burn his clothes and give him some little burnmarks like he did with Hado 96 and thats all...
I would die to see completely unsealed Aizen vs Almighty Yhwach that would be NUTS
@@japadnikAizens seals don’t restrict his power they just limit his range
Yama stomps aizen stop fanboying, he woulda never made wonderwise and he hadn't fully been subjugate to hyokoku or however you say it. Yama claps him in bankai but didn't go all out cause he didn't wanna destroy the human world. How you gone watch the anime an deviate from it with bs fanboy theory just stop
@@FourTwentyShade if yama stomps aizen then why he did not kill him, instead imprisoned him ?
@@naviricbe are you ill?? I'm not restating a reply that already answers your question. Troll someone else
Ive always thought that a logical reason as to how yhwach could defeat aizen would be to absorb the hoguyoku itself because it is also made from a piece of the soul king. If yhwach can absorb main soul king body himself than why not a small piece?
hogyoku isn't just a simple piece, is it?
It's remade and altered a lot since then
@@aiya5777 true but I'd imagine that the full body of the soulking would be stronger/ offer more protection that the nail of the soul king plus a few thousand Shinigami souls
If aizen could flood muken with his rietsu and altar anyones perception, why wouldnt he have altered time dilation to have made it seem like his sentence had been completed
Aizen doesn't make an attempt to escape at all, does he? myb chilling in muken is surprisingly nice?
@@aiya5777 No he literally never tries to escape. He does seem like the kind that would wait til perfect moment. So could be hes waiting until hogyoku has made him even more powerful
Let's Goooo!
yhwach should’ve brought a better chair with him. Aizen would’ve never said no to that.
Did they ever give Aizen all the keys? I forget.
many people think that aizen fused with his zanpakuto is an op buff, but many people didn't know that it would be his biggest weakness bc when aizen touch his opponent kyoka suigetsu ability is stop working
yep, myb that's why fake Ichigo turned into aizen after Bach touched him, or stabbed him
even then, still no bankai
myb the bankai version could fix it
@@aiya5777 huh? 🤣
Myb his bankai version is weaker than shikai just look at shinji case, bc they both affect senses.
@@User5hdbh shinji's bankai isn't weak
It simply doesn't provide much power boost in 1v1 battle
@@aiya5777 even then ks still no affect to ichigo.
shinji would be struggling in 1v1 battle against an espada
but with his bankai activated, he could solo all of em at once while sitting and drinking coffee like a boss
If a hollow/vizard hit gerand lil or Yuhaw do you think they would die like ichigos mom
he cant flood shit bc of that chair rmbr
Sweet.
Man, imgaine "what if" Aizen was given a letter, what would it be? perhaps "V" the visionary+++
Well wouldnt that interfere with azashiros power i mean did we not think about that
If Nanananaja can paralyze Aizen with his schrift then Almighty Soul King would kill Aizen
this is actually some very interesting information we got here. I am not saying Aizen would outright be able to beat SK Yhwach, but it really does appear that Aizen's shikai powers were still in effect even when it wasn't at full power. As we know, his powers will always last on the victim, which makes me believe that it was enough to change the future what Yhwach was seeing in their final battle. As Aizen isn't able to fully know what the victim is seeing while under KS's limited effect, i am curious to know what future Yhwach was seeing anyway.
As MrTommo was suggesting, it appears that yhwach seeing KS's blade was an illusion itself, because Aizen didn't know what Yhwach was seeing until he reveals it to be Ichigo. Would Aizen be able to manifest his blade and 're-activate' KS to be able to use its full effect? Yhwach wouldn't be able to see this future since he was effected by KS anyway. Would this change anything? Maybe. I presumed KS wasn't able to effect someone after they died, which is why Yhwach was able to come back and caught Aizen off guard. But since there is a high chance that KS wasn't at full power, could KS's full power effect its victim as well after they resurrect? I think this new piece of information makes the final fight a bit more clear, but also gives us reason to believe that Aizen at full power might have a better shot at fighting Yhwach.
I am not a die hard fan of Bleach (though it is my favourite anime), so let me know if i got something wrong as well! i am interested to hear people's thoughts on this match-up as well
Aizen has always been at his full .what are you saying.
And for sk yhwach, ks could deal with the A only because yhwach was trapped before even the activation of the latter.
Remember that , once you get trapped by ks, it's over , no matter how strong you are , your 5 senses will be affected
Now what is interesting is certainly the fact that people like ichigo or jugram can sense KS and therefore deduce at which exact moment , aizen uses it.
For ichigo, it was previsible since he had already withnessed it in the past but jugram, it's still a mystery or he is just a genius , that would explain why aizen has never used it on kisuke during their fight
@@KingRoot-ie9qh would you say Aizen was always at his full if the effect of KS was limited as this new info could suggest? Yhwach was indeed trapped before the Almighty got activated so as you said, the effect will be able to mess with his 5 senses. But i would say that Aizen using the full effect (so using the blade) makes him stronger because then he would be able to know what yhwach is seeing. I think that Aizen would be able to fight Yhwach better if he knew what illusions he made is what i am trying to get at.
@@SoulXx21 what are you talking about ?
Did you read the manga ?
We know for certain that aizen's reiatsu has always been at full because it was stated in the manga ( by aizen himself lol ).
Did you even read the part with mayuri ?
Reiatsu is produced by heart , to touch somebody's reiatsu ( decrease it or etc) , you gotta make his heart stop beating and if aizen is in the muken, it's because they haven't found a way yet to stop his heart from beating.
Aizen himself was getting mad at them because they were making a foul outta him , when they thought he hadn't noticed that his reiatsu was still at his full .
Now for the rest, you gotta come again but with more détails this time pls.
@@KingRoot-ie9qh well i wasn’t really talking about reiatsu. I never said his reiatsu was or wasn’t at full but i probably wasn’t really clear on what i was trying to say so i ll try again:
With the new info, we know better how KS works after it merged with its wielder. We know that KS’s effect ‘differs’ depending on how Aizen uses it: when the blade is manifested, Aizen can use KS just as he did against his battle against all the captains. He controls all 5 senses and can make them feel, see, smell etc. what he wants them to. But again, this only applies when the sword is visible. Aizen can however use KS withouth manifesting his blade, which happened against Yhwach, tho he doesn’t fully control its effect. His comment after Yhwach is realizing that he is holding him in the final battle suggest he didn’t know Ichigo was what Yhwach was seeing (until Yhwach revealed this of course).
You can compare this with Kido as MrTommo said in the video. Aizen using KS without manifesting its blade could be compared to using a kido without incantation. Meaning the kido, KS in this case, isn’t at full effect or power. Which seems to be the case in this fight as well. Long story short, Aizen wasn’t using the full extend of KS’s effect when facing Yhwach(again, he was able to alter Yhwach senses but he didn’t know what Yhwach was exactly seeing.
But what if Aizen effected Yhwach with KS and ‘its full incantation’/its blade? I think Aizen would be able to control the fight much better since he knows/controls what Yhwach is perceiving with his 5 senses. This would imo give Aizen a better chance at handling Yhwach if Ichigo didn’t appear and it was a 1v1. Just my thoughts tho x’D
@@SoulXx21 Aizen has no chance against SK Yhwach, he can at best stall for a while. Yhwach was pushing Aizen's limits casually even before Ichigo arrived. Yhwach can revive himself endlessly and can eventually overcome KS as we saw in that fight.
Tbh I just think he messed with his concept of time ot fuck with him, make him underestimate reinforcements, when people would come etc.