it CAN wake up switch, but it is somewhat confusing: after pressing home button you need to shake controller, lights will start to flash faster and switch will wake up in few seconds.
@@VKsChannel that is the funny part: when I preordered it on Amazon I checked some questions from users to seller and there was this answer for "Can it wake up switch?" one)) I presume it was done in this way because controller activates when you pick it from doc without any button presses and you will almost always shake it in some way during that
This is probably due to Bluetooth Low Energy tech that is being implemented on the controller. pressing home or other buttons makes sure that the controller is fully awake and by lifting/moving or shaking it up will wake up the switch
I bought the Bluetooth switch version a few months back when it released, got the black one! It’s relatively nice on the switch and the 2.4G dongle works on my laptop for Game Pass, the buttons are backwards but it works great.
@@Just_Shaun Bro, can you tell me how do I map the rear 2 buttons on this controller? In the software I only see 20 possible options on the front. I'm losing my mind already.
18:32 in this case, it is the ideal to be in an "awkward position" since it is meant to be only used by the wireless dongle, and being there, you'll never loose or break it It is the perfect position
You can replace them, if you're willing to open the controller (search for: "8BitDo ABXY Buttons for Ultimate controller"). It's not an elegant solution, but it's cheap and doable.
I went with the 2.4ghz version. I was getting the controller specifically for my pc, which doesn't have Bluetooth. The Bluetooth one is probably the better option for most people, but I just didn't want to spend the extra $20 when I already have a pro controller plus 2 sets of joycons for my switch and the SN30 pro+ for my Raspberry Pi.
@@Wrekkshoppe that was one thing that made me think about getting the Bluetooth version instead, but I'll be using the controller for 2D games 99 percent of the time, so I'll hardly ever even use the joysticks.
@gregmasciola3332 I recently purchased the Bluetooth version, and I gotta say that I'm loving it. I'd say that it's notably superior to any other 8bitdo Switch control pad. It's a really nice controller, and most importantly, it wakes up the Switch from sleep mode. The only other third party Switch controller that does that is the Gulikit KingKong Pro 2 (which I also own).
@@gregmasciola3332 Bro, can you tell me how do I map the rear 2 buttons on this controller? In the software I only see 20 possible options on the front. I'm losing my mind already.
I'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned but they have added the Bluetooth connection on the 2.4g version through D-Input. Although I've only tested it on PC & Android. It works just fine.
For me, i think 2.4 is another way of bluetooth connect and the dongle usb receiver is a bluetooth device for pc, so if your pc already have bluetooth, u can connect without dongle usb
The bluetooth version is the one that have magnets instead of potentiometers aka immune to stick drift only thing it can get is bad recentering of the stick or the spring counl be worn down but still almost immune to drift
Love this vid! Wish you could do a video on the updated Ultimate controllers. They made a Hall Effect version of the 2.4G that now has Bluetooth. And a new Ultimate 2C
@@lucasmgsilva98 mano, a versão bluetooth é sem sombra de dúvidas a melhor, mas vai depender do seu uso, eu por exemplo tenho a versão 2.4ghz e 0 arrependimentos
The real ultimate controller would be one that you could easily change the bottoms to match Xbox or Switch and use the BT with android. The USB dongle need some improvements too.
This video is now irrelevant. The latest version of the Ultimate 2.4, has Hall Sticks (and triggers, if I'm not mistaken) and BT. The Switch version still has the Nintendo layout, so you still might want to stick to that if you want it for a Switch / Retro emulation.
The naming of these controllers is terrible in my opinion. First, there is no "Ultimate" version of the Ultimate controller, every version has it's pros and cons. And all of them have worse overall compatibility compared to the Pro 2. Additionally what most people think when they hear the names Ultimate Bluetooth Controller and Ultimate 2.4Ghz Wireless Controller is that "This one is Bluetooth" and "This one is 2.4Ghz", but that is only scratching the surface of the differences between the two. Plus the Bluetooth version is both Bluetooth and 2.4ghz. They should have named them "Ultimate S Wireless" and "Ultimate Wireless" or something like that instead. What makes things even more unclear is there are also 2 wired versions of the controller. There is the Ultimate Wired Controller and Ultimate Wired Controller for Xbox. The Xbox one seems to only work on Windows and Xbox, when I tried it on Steam Deck and mobile months ago it didn't work at all. The Ultimate Wired (non-Xbox) lands somewhere between the two Wireless options. It supports X-Input, D-Input, and Switch, but it is missing features like Gyro and the hall-effect sticks which the Bluetooth model has.
I have the 2.4g black Nintendo-style controller. I leave the controller dock connected to my pc constantly. If I ever need another pro controller for multi-player, it's not that big of a pain to connect the dongle to the Switch dock.
My issue with pretty much every controller I own is the Triggers. How are they with these? With even my DS4 and DS5 and older Xbox controllers I've had to replace the springs many times. It's cheap to fix, but man is it a hassle at my old age. My hands are not as steady as they use to.
i heard that you have to replace the rubber pads on these too, I recommend you to get a controller with hall sensing triggers go for the gulikit king kong 2 pro for best durability
How do you feel with the controller in your hands? I just bought the Bluetooth version and it feed very unconfortable when I use it for at least one hour. Its this a general problem or it's only me with my hands ?
I don't feel it to be uncofortable, the grips are very similar to the 8bitdo pro 2 and I like the shoulder buttons they are very spaced like the pro controller
First of all, thanks for the great reviews. Keep up the good work! I'd like to purchase one of the pads you reviewed(Flydigi Vader 2, 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth, Gamesir X2 pro) on the channel. I play games on PC and Android tablet. On tablet(Galaxy tab S7 FE), I want to utilize mapping for games that support pads, such as Genshin Impact and Honkai, as well as games that do not. On PC, it would be nice to be able to play Apex Legends (PC), the Diablo series, and some Steam games, but I'm so used to the keyboard and mouse that it's not necessary. In summary, which pad would you recommend if your main purpose is to have a reliable connection and mapping on Android? Thank you, have a lovely day. :)
For pc and android go with flydigi, these are the best controllers for mobile gaming and it has the best button to touch mapping ever, if you want a budget controller go with flydigi direwolf, and if you don't care how much you're spending go with apex 3 or vader 3 pro, sadly I haven't got a reply from flydigi yet so I don't know if I'll be able to review the vader 3 pro (just be aware that flydigi smartphone app is not compatible with the new versions of IOS)
Just wanna add that some of the newer 2.4G controllers come with hall joysticks and the new firmware provides bluetooth connection (don't know how good it is)
So confused with both products. When I read the description of the Bluetooth/Switch version it says you can also connect with android/iso? But if that isn't true, than I'd be buying the wrong product.
RIGHT??!! thats like the major point on the ultimate. i wont have to buy a pad for a long long time. and Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony rather you buy a pad every year or so. it boosts their revenue. this tech has been around sine the early 2000s!!!
Hello. The height of the XYAB buttons is the same or not? "Keys" are not a problem. I can easily make new ones, but if i replace buttons will they be the same height after that?
I would like to point out the looseness of all the buttons even on the more expensive one, after a wear in period there's loose springs in the joystick which can make it drift. has more drift after 2 weeks than my dualsense had for a year up until the controller pots wore out. its the springssssssssss
What do you think about the stick tension between the 8BitDo and the stock Xbox/PS5 controller? Is it stiffer/lighter compared to the 1st party controller? About the same???
Perfect tests. You are a true GamePad Master. 1) Bluetooth is less reliable than wifi right, for the input consistancy ? 2) Only DirectX allows to have new buttons for the rear buttons, not Xinput ? This is an API limitation due to Microsoft stupidity ?!
@@VKsChannel So how did the Steam Configuration tool recognize the new 11th button of the Xbox Series controllers = which is the "Share" button ? If the XInput API is only able to support 10 linear buttons... Do you know why ? PS : For instance, the Rewasd software can detect it too... as well as the rear paddles of the Elite2 controllers. How do they do this trick ?
The Bluetooth Switch version feels like the best version for me. I can either have the dock connected to my PC or just leave the dongle in there. And in the rare event that I can't use the dongle for my PC, I've been using BetterJoy for my Pro Controller and it's been working well enough, so Bluetooth compatibility shouldn't be a huge issue.
BetterJoy has been my greatest ally and my greatest enemy for pc gaming compatability because steam never liked BetterJoy. Even with HidGuardian being added to fix that, it was still a headache to turn it on or off. Now I have a KK2 Pro so I can abandon that touchy software.
Basically, Ultimate is waste if you don't have Switch, since it doesn't support bluetooth on PC ( i mean it does, but if you play games that aren't compatible with Switch controller or you play from other launcher that isn't Steam, it will not recognize)
8bitdo makes fantastic products. The Bluetooth is the better model. It's more durable and longer lasting. You get what you pay for. The no drift is how other gamepads should be built. All these $200 Microsoft controllers continue have numerous issues and 8bitDo has lots of happy customers. I'm glad to be one of them. I used to be an unhappy Microsoft customer. Microsoft sucks!
Yes by connecting to it as a pro controller But if you do this you will loose the analog triggers response as the pro controller doesn't have analog triggers
My question is for the non Bluetooth version is it plug n play and comes with everything I need for my steam deck are do I need to download software are need additional receivers
@@VKsChannelThat's great! Thanks. I have a Dualsense but it's not well suited for PC and I'm gonna sell it. I was thinking about 9th gen Xbox gamepad but this gamepads wired version is way cheaper than Dualsense and 9th Gen. It may be the best choice for me if it works flawlesly.
I REALLY wish I had watched this video before buying. I got the 2.4G because I really wanted the pastel pink color, but as you noted in your color comparison, THE TONE IS EXTREMELY SUBTLE, it looks almost white next to colored objects. The color on the box and on their website are rich and bold in comparison. I was SO disappointed when I unboxed and saw the color, it is honestly such an ugly tone and it looks like the color has been sun bleached out. I don't understand who approved this tone for production, what is the point of making a pink controller that makes you question of you are even looking at the color pink? What a waste... Anyway, that's my rant about the color. Aesthetics aside, it's a great controller and for PC use, you really can't go wrong with the 2.4 since the adapter works from its place inside the dock, it doesn't take up any extra USB ports and feels like an adapter-free experience. Just don't get conned by the deceptively pretty pink, or you'll be a sad panda like me.
I have random input lags on my sn30pro+ on bluetooth when playing on my nintendo switch Some ppl said its due to wifi interference on its bad bluetooth receiver but Im not sure, do u have any input on this?
Only on nintendo switch? I suggest that you test the same controller on another switch This way you can determine if the problem is on your switch or the controller
if the gyro works with a switch pro controller it will work on this one, but do you want my honest opinion?, if you want to play games on your smartphone go with a flydigi controller, it is just perfect for mobile gaming, I suggest the new vader 3 pro@@BORING2629
I dont like Bluetooth version cuz buttons switched up and i dont feel comfy using them, like my instincts tell me A button is down, but on bluetooth version its on right
Hahaha there will be a discussion about this everytime On the pro 2 video I said 8 bit do and people complained that should be 8 bit doh like ninten doh
@@VKsChannel 🤣😂 8bit do no doubt about it I have Pro 2 with phone clip since launch and not sure if i should upgrade, works with my phone and PC and switch flawlessly and still no drift luckily
8bitdo also sent an email to someone who asked the same question. The response was “it’s doo like scooby doo”. I also have the speakers which say 8bitdooo as well. This is always a hotly debated topic and I don’t know why.
Exactly my fking struggle atm. I want to buy the Ultimate (the one with all features for 70 €) and my only fking fear is that my hands are too big for it (Got size 9-10). I legit searched the internet for nearly a week for good controllers but the 8bitdo ultimate is absolutely the best thing you can get for 70 bc it has the charging dock, dongle, stick sleeves etc all inclusive and others are more expensive without all of this
yes they update Bluetooth mode on ultimate 2.4G(xbox-layout) in firmware 2.0 (now 2.4) they can use Bluetooth in D-input mode you can use it Bluetooth on iOS device maybe you can use with Android and Nintendo switch too but im not try it with nintendo switch but work well with iOS device (BT mode)
Hi can someone help to answer this please. Can this controller work on genshim impact on pc? Or i need to install genshin to steam then it would work? Just want to make sure it before i buy it since i never found the tutorial.
There is a beta update for the ultimate bluetooth that allows x-input with the dongle if genshin works by default with xbox controller this update is the solution
@@VKsChannel hi thank you so much for the reply. Does that mean currently not working? Should I consider another controller then. Like gulikit kingkong 2 pro. But this one I also not sure able. Or not. I like the controller due to never drift analog rather then xbox x controller
@@zerohero3037 the firmware works, I tested it it's just not official yet, the king kong 2 pro is also another solid pick but it doesn't have back buttons, if you decide to pick this one let me know and call me on discord I'll send you the beta update
Hi thank you so much for the reply. I plan to buy it. I want to as was the update using the software safe? I afraid had malware or virus something like that.
it CAN wake up switch, but it is somewhat confusing: after pressing home button you need to shake controller, lights will start to flash faster and switch will wake up in few seconds.
WTF it's true!
that's not even present on the manual
how do you know that?
@@VKsChannel that is the funny part: when I preordered it on Amazon I checked some questions from users to seller and there was this answer for "Can it wake up switch?" one)) I presume it was done in this way because controller activates when you pick it from doc without any button presses and you will almost always shake it in some way during that
Bro you just blew my fuggin mind- this controller just got so much better because of this
This is probably due to Bluetooth Low Energy tech that is being implemented on the controller. pressing home or other buttons makes sure that the controller is fully awake and by lifting/moving or shaking it up will wake up the switch
Are we talking about being able to turn on the Nintendo Switch? Because I am not able to wake her up with the remote control.
I bought the Bluetooth switch version a few months back when it released, got the black one! It’s relatively nice on the switch and the 2.4G dongle works on my laptop for Game Pass, the buttons are backwards but it works great.
you can make a custom remap profile for pc gaming
@@VKsChannel oh yeah, of course. Silly me, completely crossed my mind 😂, and I used the app to set up the custom buttons 🫠.
@@VKsChannel can you try with xbox series + wingman dongle? Ty.
@@Just_Shaun Bro, can you tell me how do I map the rear 2 buttons on this controller? In the software I only see 20 possible options on the front. I'm losing my mind already.
@@alreawon1212That's because of the imput switch on the back. It only works on the 2.4ghz
18:32 in this case, it is the ideal to be in an "awkward position" since it is meant to be only used by the wireless dongle, and being there, you'll never loose or break it
It is the perfect position
I wish there was a version of the ULT BT that has the XYAB button layout same as xbox controller.
You can replace them, if you're willing to open the controller (search for: "8BitDo ABXY Buttons for Ultimate controller"). It's not an elegant solution, but it's cheap and doable.
8bitdo sells xbox layout buttons on their website if you're down to disassemble.
I bought the 2.4Ghz instead of yhr Bluetooth one for this reason.
if you buy from their website you can get the xobx buttons for 3$ USD. its the only place to get them.
They just released one.
Such a low percentage of reviews comparing\testing stick sensitivity. But this is the most important part for all aiming games
I went with the 2.4ghz version. I was getting the controller specifically for my pc, which doesn't have Bluetooth. The Bluetooth one is probably the better option for most people, but I just didn't want to spend the extra $20 when I already have a pro controller plus 2 sets of joycons for my switch and the SN30 pro+ for my Raspberry Pi.
From what I know, the Bluetooth version is the only one with the drift free analog sticks.
@@Wrekkshoppe that was one thing that made me think about getting the Bluetooth version instead, but I'll be using the controller for 2D games 99 percent of the time, so I'll hardly ever even use the joysticks.
@gregmasciola3332 I recently purchased the Bluetooth version, and I gotta say that I'm loving it. I'd say that it's notably superior to any other 8bitdo Switch control pad. It's a really nice controller, and most importantly, it wakes up the Switch from sleep mode. The only other third party Switch controller that does that is the Gulikit KingKong Pro 2 (which I also own).
@@gregmasciola3332 Bro, can you tell me how do I map the rear 2 buttons on this controller? In the software I only see 20 possible options on the front. I'm losing my mind already.
@@Wrekkshoppewhich is better? Gulikit or 8bitdo?
I'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned but they have added the Bluetooth connection on the 2.4g version through D-Input. Although I've only tested it on PC & Android. It works just fine.
How?
How?
Is that a new feature via update?
For me, i think 2.4 is another way of bluetooth connect and the dongle usb receiver is a bluetooth device for pc, so if your pc already have bluetooth, u can connect without dongle usb
Now I interested how it works with switch? Anyone tested?
The bluetooth version is the one that have magnets instead of potentiometers aka immune to stick drift only thing it can get is bad recentering of the stick or the spring counl be worn down but still almost immune to drift
The Hall effect sticks?
not anymore
Now both of them? @@joverifico
Love this vid! Wish you could do a video on the updated Ultimate controllers. They made a Hall Effect version of the 2.4G that now has Bluetooth. And a new Ultimate 2C
Orgulhoso deste tipo de conteúdo ter vindo de um Brasileiro, salve mano e parabéns pelo ótimo trabalho 🇧🇷❤️
que br ta maluco
@@MS-uh5io o Pc dele inteiro tá em português do Brasil mano, e ele não fala como nativo, ele tem sotaque brasileiro
Me ajuda aí, mano kk qual foi a conclusão dele sobres os controles? Qual é melhor?
@@lucasmgsilva98 mano, a versão bluetooth é sem sombra de dúvidas a melhor, mas vai depender do seu uso, eu por exemplo tenho a versão 2.4ghz e 0 arrependimentos
@@nxrthk1 quanto de ms fica com a 2.4?tava na duvida entra a versao com fio(meu pc e usb 2.0 entao vai ser limitado) ou na 2.4
Just use Steam imput + Switch Pro controller layout on , there you have it, compatibility with gyro as well.
The real ultimate controller would be one that you could easily change the bottoms to match Xbox or Switch and use the BT with android. The USB dongle need some improvements too.
This video is now irrelevant. The latest version of the Ultimate 2.4, has Hall Sticks (and triggers, if I'm not mistaken) and BT. The Switch version still has the Nintendo layout, so you still might want to stick to that if you want it for a Switch / Retro emulation.
The bluetooth one has d/x input switching with the latest firmware.
How do you change the input methods?
the 2.4hz version has an update with hall-effect and a nifty purple color
I got it for my pc, and it's a dream. Purple is such a vibe.
Great video. Thanks. You clearly describe the differences and how they both work. Cheers 🙂
The naming of these controllers is terrible in my opinion. First, there is no "Ultimate" version of the Ultimate controller, every version has it's pros and cons. And all of them have worse overall compatibility compared to the Pro 2.
Additionally what most people think when they hear the names Ultimate Bluetooth Controller and Ultimate 2.4Ghz Wireless Controller is that "This one is Bluetooth" and "This one is 2.4Ghz", but that is only scratching the surface of the differences between the two. Plus the Bluetooth version is both Bluetooth and 2.4ghz.
They should have named them "Ultimate S Wireless" and "Ultimate Wireless" or something like that instead.
What makes things even more unclear is there are also 2 wired versions of the controller. There is the Ultimate Wired Controller and Ultimate Wired Controller for Xbox. The Xbox one seems to only work on Windows and Xbox, when I tried it on Steam Deck and mobile months ago it didn't work at all. The Ultimate Wired (non-Xbox) lands somewhere between the two Wireless options. It supports X-Input, D-Input, and Switch, but it is missing features like Gyro and the hall-effect sticks which the Bluetooth model has.
I have the 2.4g black Nintendo-style controller. I leave the controller dock connected to my pc constantly. If I ever need another pro controller for multi-player, it's not that big of a pain to connect the dongle to the Switch dock.
does it work with a switch? I just tried to connect using a dongle
@@shizoland7661 yes. Make sure the controller is in the right mode via the switch on the back
@@godminnette2 thanks
Very thorough review. Thank you for this.
Wow that was a great comparison and unboxing, thank you !
My issue with pretty much every controller I own is the Triggers. How are they with these? With even my DS4 and DS5 and older Xbox controllers I've had to replace the springs many times. It's cheap to fix, but man is it a hassle at my old age. My hands are not as steady as they use to.
i heard that you have to replace the rubber pads on these too, I recommend you to get a controller with hall sensing triggers
go for the gulikit king kong 2 pro for best durability
Parabéns pelo conteúdo de altíssima qualidade cara! Mostrou até um comparativo do delay dos controles
valeu
I'm getting the Bluetooth one, but damn, if only it also had the xbox layout
They added bluetooth supporr to the 2.4g recently
@@VKsChannel Did they release new 2.4GHz variants with Bluetooth support or do you just update the one you already have?
@@VKsChannel Do you have a source for this?
@@VKsChannel does it work with switch? Oo
O cara fala tão bem inglês que eu nem percebi que era brasileiro, parabéns pelo conteúdo de qualidade
Thanks for the video, what game is that you used in the android test? 22:38
Thats devil may cry on a ps2 emulator
Hey VK. I was wondering if XB/PS plastic thumbsticks (not the module) are compatible with this. Planning to do a swap.
hmmm I have no Idea, some controllers uses different sizes só you'll have to try it out to discover if it fits
How do you feel with the controller in your hands? I just bought the Bluetooth version and it feed very unconfortable when I use it for at least one hour. Its this a general problem or it's only me with my hands ?
I don't feel it to be uncofortable, the grips are very similar to the 8bitdo pro 2 and I like the shoulder buttons they are very spaced like the pro controller
Nah bro don’t listen to this guy it feels uncomfortable and also the bumpers are bad… ur not alone
Is the bluetooth version compatible with apple (mac) and switch ? Is existe one model compatible with both ?
Hi, how about imput lags, have you test it? For me its one of the most important aspects. Thx a lot
the bluetooth version IS the better version but the pink edition is exclusive to 2.4g...
Buy both and change shells 🤣
I spent hours debating this because i wanted pink lol but went with the white bluetooth
I wish the 2.4ghz version had hall sticks and triggers ☹️
they actually do now, along with a new purple color
First of all, thanks for the great reviews. Keep up the good work!
I'd like to purchase one of the pads you reviewed(Flydigi Vader 2, 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth, Gamesir X2 pro) on the channel. I play games on PC and Android tablet. On tablet(Galaxy tab S7 FE), I want to utilize mapping for games that support pads, such as Genshin Impact and Honkai, as well as games that do not. On PC, it would be nice to be able to play Apex Legends (PC), the Diablo series, and some Steam games, but I'm so used to the keyboard and mouse that it's not necessary.
In summary, which pad would you recommend if your main purpose is to have a reliable connection and mapping on Android? Thank you, have a lovely day. :)
For pc and android go with flydigi, these are the best controllers for mobile gaming and it has the best button to touch mapping ever, if you want a budget controller go with flydigi direwolf, and if you don't care how much you're spending go with apex 3 or vader 3 pro, sadly I haven't got a reply from flydigi yet so I don't know if I'll be able to review the vader 3 pro (just be aware that flydigi smartphone app is not compatible with the new versions of IOS)
@VKsChannel Thank you for the kind and quick response! I'll try one of Flydigi bois :)
Just wanna add that some of the newer 2.4G controllers come with hall joysticks and the new firmware provides bluetooth connection (don't know how good it is)
You mean now new version is with both 2.4G and Bluetooth connection?
@@Markus_Bern yes 8bitdo ultimate 2.4G(xbox layout) now support Bluetooth connection on D-input
But they dont have hd rumble and gyroscope
Does the bluetooth version has a variation that comes with button layout same as an xbox controller instead of nintendo switch ?
So confused with both products. When I read the description of the Bluetooth/Switch version it says you can also connect with android/iso? But if that isn't true, than I'd be buying the wrong product.
I want the pink one but I lose out on Hall Effect sticks...
RIGHT??!! thats like the major point on the ultimate. i wont have to buy a pad for a long long time. and Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony rather you buy a pad every year or so. it boosts their revenue. this tech has been around sine the early 2000s!!!
Hi, i don't know if you have bought something from them, but they launched a new 2.4ghz version with hall effects sensors in the joysticks.
Is it true that the 2.4 version has a bluetooth now based on the software update?
yes
Awesome video, couldn't ask for more detailed comparison between the 2 controllers. BTW, what's the name of the game you're playing at 11:50 lol.
Pocky and Rocky Reshrined
Have you checked the polling rate of both versions?
locked to I think it was either 200 hz or 250, gamerheaven thoroughly tested overclocking and they are polling rate locked.
Hello. The height of the XYAB buttons is the same or not? "Keys" are not a problem. I can easily make new ones, but if i replace buttons will they be the same height after that?
I will check it and reply back
@@VKsChannel Thank you!
Not so ultimate after all, but the dock made me buy it…
I want controller to my pc for steam games, right now i am playing Rouge legacy 2. Which controller would be best, pc with dongel?
Not so much in order to defy gravity 😅 thanks for the review, just what I wanted
thanks bro 😎🤙🤙, I had doubt about d-input and x-input switch
I would like to point out the looseness of all the buttons even on the more expensive one, after a wear in period there's loose springs in the joystick which can make it drift. has more drift after 2 weeks than my dualsense had for a year up until the controller pots wore out. its the springssssssssss
so would you recommend this or the dualsense? I thought the hall effect had no drift?
Does the 2.4 ghz version also have the hall effect sensor for the joystick?
No.
@@amoretpax199 Thanks, almost attempted to buy the non bluetooth one.
@@LAN-w- The bluetooth version is better but I wish it also have the coloured buttons like the 2.4 ghz version.
@@amoretpax199 Same, still the non colored one's has its charms for being more minimalistic.
Do you know if both versions use hall-effect sensors on the joysticks, or just the Bluetooth one?
watch the full review to know the answer
just the bluetooth one.
@@VKsChannelYou suck. Just answer the man's question, dick.
@@-aid4084 Thanks, you're more useful than the Channel lol.
@@poopdeck18 np
What do you think about the stick tension between the 8BitDo and the stock Xbox/PS5 controller? Is it stiffer/lighter compared to the 1st party controller? About the same???
It uses Hall Effect sticks so it's more looser feeling than Xbox controller.
Perfect tests. You are a true GamePad Master.
1) Bluetooth is less reliable than wifi right, for the input consistancy ?
2) Only DirectX allows to have new buttons for the rear buttons, not Xinput ? This is an API limitation due to Microsoft stupidity ?!
1 Yes
2 Yes
@@VKsChannel So how did the Steam Configuration tool recognize the new 11th button of the Xbox Series controllers = which is the "Share" button ?
If the XInput API is only able to support 10 linear buttons... Do you know why ?
PS : For instance, the Rewasd software can detect it too... as well as the rear paddles of the Elite2 controllers. How do they do this trick ?
The Bluetooth Switch version feels like the best version for me. I can either have the dock connected to my PC or just leave the dongle in there.
And in the rare event that I can't use the dongle for my PC, I've been using BetterJoy for my Pro Controller and it's been working well enough, so Bluetooth compatibility shouldn't be a huge issue.
BetterJoy has been my greatest ally and my greatest enemy for pc gaming compatability because steam never liked BetterJoy. Even with HidGuardian being added to fix that, it was still a headache to turn it on or off. Now I have a KK2 Pro so I can abandon that touchy software.
Which one has the better wired input latency?
So the Bluetooth version doesn't have x-input on Bluetooth or 2.4ghz? It says it supports x-input on the website.
Bluetooth version only have x-input with the adapter or wired
Via bluetooth is detected as a pro controller
Basically, Ultimate is waste if you don't have Switch, since it doesn't support bluetooth on PC ( i mean it does, but if you play games that aren't compatible with Switch controller or you play from other launcher that isn't Steam, it will not recognize)
You can swipe buttons!
But between Bluetooth and 2.4Ghz version xD
Can you frankenstein the green/pink cover and the bluetooth controller?
Probably yes
Will the bluetooth version work on android phones with games like COD, stardew valley?
Yeah it works normally
8bitdo makes fantastic products. The Bluetooth is the better model. It's more durable and longer lasting. You get what you pay for. The no drift is how other gamepads should be built. All these $200 Microsoft controllers continue have numerous issues and 8bitDo has lots of happy customers. I'm glad to be one of them. I used to be an unhappy Microsoft customer. Microsoft sucks!
This video just helped me out
No Xinput with bluetooth, kinda a bummer tho.
The 2.4g version received an update that enabled bluetooth and it has xinput
@@VKsChannel Thank you my man, but it's alps joystick 🙃, wish gamesir releasing t4 kaleid with wireless option sooner than later
How is the input latency on the Switch? I have the 8bitdo Pro 2 and the input latency is so bad I can't play platformers.
Pro Controller also has bad latency especially with NSO SNES NES. I think Switch latency just suck!
Can it pair with series s through Wingman dongle?
Hi I have bluetooth version of this controller and my circularity test is %19-16, is it normal? Should I refund it?
Should be the same as the video
VK do u know if you can connect the Xbox One controller to the 8bitdo Bluetooth dongle? I can't get it to work so I suspect you can't.
according to their webiste it is compatible, but i only have the xbox series X controller, my controller pairs normally
@@VKsChannel it pairs with the 8bitdo dongle? i see.
@@aweigh1010 yes
Is there mouse emulation in PC out of games/on desktop (bluetooth version)?
No
But you can use steam for that
@@VKsChannel Than You :), I already using Steam, but it have some cons, for eg. it takes while to boot Steam after swith computer on :)
Can you use X-input on the bluetooth version using a 8bitdo usb adapter?
Yes by connecting to it as a pro controller
But if you do this you will loose the analog triggers response as the pro controller doesn't have analog triggers
My question is for the non Bluetooth version is it plug n play and comes with everything I need for my steam deck are do I need to download software are need additional receivers
The non bluetooth needs to have the receiver constantly plugged
Or use it with a wired connection
And no the software is not required
A question: If I buy it wired version, can I plug and play it on Windows?
yes
@@VKsChannelThat's great! Thanks.
I have a Dualsense but it's not well suited for PC and I'm gonna sell it.
I was thinking about 9th gen Xbox gamepad but this gamepads wired version is way cheaper than Dualsense and 9th Gen.
It may be the best choice for me if it works flawlesly.
please review the ultimate C version, bluetooth vs 2.4g
As someone who loves the Switch Pro Controller my hands/wrists hurt when holding this controller.
Could yoou please elaborate? How is the switch pro controller different and more comfortable?
I REALLY wish I had watched this video before buying. I got the 2.4G because I really wanted the pastel pink color, but as you noted in your color comparison, THE TONE IS EXTREMELY SUBTLE, it looks almost white next to colored objects. The color on the box and on their website are rich and bold in comparison. I was SO disappointed when I unboxed and saw the color, it is honestly such an ugly tone and it looks like the color has been sun bleached out. I don't understand who approved this tone for production, what is the point of making a pink controller that makes you question of you are even looking at the color pink? What a waste...
Anyway, that's my rant about the color. Aesthetics aside, it's a great controller and for PC use, you really can't go wrong with the 2.4 since the adapter works from its place inside the dock, it doesn't take up any extra USB ports and feels like an adapter-free experience.
Just don't get conned by the deceptively pretty pink, or you'll be a sad panda like me.
So you mean it needs the 2.4ghz receiver to force xinput in Bluetooth version
Not anymore
It has an update that enables X-Input
10:51 This controller CAN wake up the Switch, you just need to shake the controller.
So the pink one works on Xbox s thru Bluetooth?
I have random input lags on my sn30pro+ on bluetooth when playing on my nintendo switch
Some ppl said its due to wifi interference on its bad bluetooth receiver but Im not sure, do u have any input on this?
Only on nintendo switch?
I suggest that you test the same controller on another switch
This way you can determine if the problem is on your switch or the controller
@@VKsChannel yeah, and only on bluetooth mode btw
Can you test the gyro on android? Please
I don't have it anymore but it probably works
what game did you want to test?
@@VKsChannel cod mobile, im using android tablet but i dont know if the gyro works on android
if the gyro works with a switch pro controller it will work on this one, but do you want my honest opinion?, if you want to play games on your smartphone go with a flydigi controller, it is just perfect for mobile gaming, I suggest the new vader 3 pro@@BORING2629
@@VKsChannel thank you for your suggestion
I dont like Bluetooth version cuz buttons switched up and i dont feel comfy using them, like my instincts tell me A button is down, but on bluetooth version its on right
It's NOT 8bitTHO it's 8bit do
They have a speaker that says 8bit do
Hahaha there will be a discussion about this everytime
On the pro 2 video I said 8 bit do and people complained that should be 8 bit doh like ninten doh
@@VKsChannel 🤣😂 8bit do no doubt about it
I have Pro 2 with phone clip since launch and not sure if i should upgrade, works with my phone and PC and switch flawlessly and still no drift luckily
8bitdo also sent an email to someone who asked the same question. The response was “it’s doo like scooby doo”. I also have the speakers which say 8bitdooo as well. This is always a hotly debated topic and I don’t know why.
I find the switch controller too small for my hands is this controller bigger?
About the same size as the pro controller
@@VKsChannel thank you, I'm also considering the king kong pro 2 but it doesn't seem to be as premium as the ultimate
Exactly my fking struggle atm. I want to buy the Ultimate (the one with all features for 70 €) and my only fking fear is that my hands are too big for it (Got size 9-10). I legit searched the internet for nearly a week for good controllers but the 8bitdo ultimate is absolutely the best thing you can get for 70 bc it has the charging dock, dongle, stick sleeves etc all inclusive and others are more expensive without all of this
can it connect 2 controller on PC play arcade game like street fighter Player 1 & Player 2 on same PC
I have exactly the same question, how did you troubleshoot?
Which version is best for pc?
Hello, does both have analog triggers?
Yes
This needs an update. There's a new 2.4g with hall effect sticks
13:56 on my version of gamepad (white 2.4g) both sticks have 16+ avg errors welp....
is the pink one bluetooth compatible as well?
yes they update Bluetooth mode on ultimate 2.4G(xbox-layout) in firmware 2.0 (now 2.4)
they can use Bluetooth in D-input mode
you can use it Bluetooth on iOS device maybe you can use with Android and Nintendo switch too
but im not try it with nintendo switch but work well with iOS device (BT mode)
Cual el mejor la versión Bluetooth o la del 2.4 gz.
Wait so I can’t use the pink one for switch at all?
sadly no =/
is this controller has " dual sense " as PS5 controller's do ?
Nope
When using the dongle usb stick, it causes my pc to crash
😊with one is for android smartphone?
Both can be used on android but the 2.4g with the latest update is better
I don't understand at 8bitdo ultimate is there a gyroscope or not?
only on the bluetooth version
@@VKsChannel ok so if my have and bluetooth and 2,4 version it will work only on bluetooth?
@@vortaxtv6051 yes, the bluetooth mode works just like as a pro controller, and the pro controller has gyro
@@VKsChannel ooh nice thanks bro
i wish the bluetooth had the xbox layout buttons...
Can use them wired like ps4 controller or no?
Only if you use an adapter
They are not compatible with the ps4 alone
Can you turn off the motion control?
No
Why would you want to do that?
@@VKsChannel because I don't like motion control and are you sure it's not an option to turn it off
@@Manwha123 generally you disable motion controls in the game not in the controller, so it depends on the game you're playing
@@VKsChannel well I was planning to use it for cod mobile
@@Manwha123 then you must disable gyro ingame, none of the controllers I reviewed has a function to disable gyro
2.4g version DOES have Bluetooth. Even manual says that.
you have to shake the controller to wake up the switch
Does the 2Ghz have motion controls
no, only in the bluetooth version
I have the Bluetooth and 2.4g controller. I thought it was standard
So I guess I’ll get the ultimate Bluetooth for my switch… 🤷🏾♂️🤔
are the triggers analog?
Yes
@@VKsChannel thank you also should i get this or the machenike g5?
Hi can someone help to answer this please. Can this controller work on genshim impact on pc? Or i need to install genshin to steam then it would work? Just want to make sure it before i buy it since i never found the tutorial.
I mean for the ultimated bluetooth with Nintendo switch button one.
There is a beta update for the ultimate bluetooth that allows x-input with the dongle if genshin works by default with xbox controller this update is the solution
@@VKsChannel hi thank you so much for the reply. Does that mean currently not working? Should I consider another controller then. Like gulikit kingkong 2 pro. But this one I also not sure able. Or not. I like the controller due to never drift analog rather then xbox x controller
@@zerohero3037 the firmware works, I tested it it's just not official yet, the king kong 2 pro is also another solid pick but it doesn't have back buttons, if you decide to pick this one let me know and call me on discord I'll send you the beta update
Hi thank you so much for the reply. I plan to buy it. I want to as was the update using the software safe? I afraid had malware or virus something like that.