NOVA CLASS BATTLESTAR | The greatest colonial warship ever built | Battlestar galactica lore
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2023
- Hello hello, today, we talk about a topic suggested by a member of SCIs patreon. The one, the only, the biggest baddest ship in all of battlestar galactica fandom. The Nova class battlestar, a fan made ship of impossibly stupid proportions. So settle in as we go on an adventure to discover the origins of this ship along with some other silly BSG facts and tidbits.
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Dradis Officer: Admiral, twelve Cylon baseships just jumped into firing range.
Admiral: Send a single Nova Class battlestar to engage the enemy and have that commander submit an after action report thirty minutes from now.
Adm. combat report
We deep dicked the ass kicking stick in them sir
(20 minutes later) Admiral: well that was unexpected Captain I have received your after Action Report well done I will send a salvage ship out there momentarily (the Eve online Razzle Dazzle strikes again)
Battlestars were absolute MONSTERS in battle in canon which is why the Cylons needed that cyberattack. This Nova Class, while insanely unnecessary, because Cylons just [were] not that tough, would be little more than [an] evolution [of] "just to see how OP we can make a warship".
It's the BSG universe version of the Tillman Battleships from the 1920's. Basically US Senator Benjamin "Pitchfork" Tillman (Who was a complete *BASTARD* BTW), tired of the US Navy asking for more money each year to build progressively bigger and bigger battleships, just asked the US Navy Bureau of Construction, what was the very biggest warship they could possibly build. The result was a series of designs that were absolutely monstrous in size and firepower, the largest of these proposals being half-again as big as the IJN Yamato.
Here is the story sir
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YoW8mPnP0JgteAM9F11vvrwozmzNeJs9
Note Prologue S1 and rest through S3 enjoy
Bare in mind, the Mercury class was in the minority, most of Colonial fleet at the time of the attack were Valkyrie class, much smaller, far less armour and fewer guns because Colonial feet were under the impression the Cylons no longer posed a threat and moved to faster lighter ships capable of chasing down pirates and lightly armed civilian threats.
@@Valehass
But in numbers the Valkyrie Class was at least as dangerous. Would you rather face a dragon, the Jupiter or Mercury class, or a pack of wolves, the Valkyie.
Then Elon showed up with his cyber truck
There was a great fanfic back in the day where the Colonial Fleet finally made it to Earth, but it was the Earth of the Stargate universe. There was a lot more to it that I can't remember but when the two sides eventually stopped fighting, they basically upgraded the hulls of the Battlestars to use Asgard tech...
Oh yeah, I found those a lot of times.
Definitely more than one of those... Not to mention the whole 'Reunions are a /Deleted/' spin where various pre-fall Colonies decide to invade those Monad Heathens of Stargate Earth...
Though I have never found a fanfic that explores it, I have always found the crossover potential in a Pre-Second Cylon war Colonies, early SG-1 Stargate infinitely more interesting than late Stargate, Post-Holocaust Colonies.
There is only really one way for the second scenario to go. They fight over stupid mis-understandings, the later Stargate tech wipes the floor with the Colonies, they eventually find peace. But the earlier scenario? You have the potential for a fully industrialized, relatively competent, highly militaristic, space flight capable civilization along with Tauri trying to fight a very different, likely much larger war against the Goa'uld in a galaxy still dominated by them pre-Replicator invasion.
The tech difference would make the match up interesting in the early exchanges, but its definitely not insurmountable to the Colonies. If a single 20th century, early 21st century nation largely working on its own in secret can relatively quickly make progress to match the Goa'uld, the Colonies would undoubtedly have the science cracked in no time. Of course, figuring out the science and bringing the fleet up to standards is two very different things so it would make it abit of a race against time story, able to do damage to the Goa'uld on a larger scale then SG Command could do when picking their fights, but relying on trying to keep the Colonies hidden / safe from large scale Goa'uld assault long enough to bring the entire military up to a standard where they could more safely challenge the Goa'uld. All the while the Tauri and Colonies could work together on SG style operations to undermine the Goa'uld and along the way learn more about the history of the universe.
Hell, you could probably even quite easily fit the Colonies 'origins' into the Stargate universe, with the conveniently Greek 'Lords of Kobol' being a group of Goa'uld ruling over Kobol, or Lanteans fleeing Atlantis and setting about on their mission to enlighten early humanity. Either way the timelines mostly lines up with the Exodus from Kobol.
@@sstimulants That actually _was_ the plot of a fanfic I read a while back, though unfortunately, it died off without properly being seen to conclusion. It was actually decently written and included the Cylon infiltration of the Colonies (this was set a few years before their little plan was set to be carried out), which nobody's aware of, all while the Cylons themselves are trying to figure out just what the hell is up with the odd Colonial military movements. "Dust of the Stars", it was called.
I still believe that there are/were other ships out there that survived. I mean if you BSG flew 100+ ly in one direction and the others went 100ly in another then theres not really a way for them to communicate.
That's canon, but what the Galactica's group had that the others didn't was 1) fuel replenishment and 2) the ability to grow food. Without those, a group is literally on a death timer.
The entire plot of the fan-made game "Diaspora" revolved around another Battlestar that survived the Cylon sneak-attack. you play as a viper pilot, stationed on the Battlestar Theseus, and go on missions around the colonies, trying to fight back the Cylons.
The game was excellent. if you've not played it, i highly recommend it.
@@numberyellowwas it ever “finished”. The reason I never played it was during that time it was not.
@@caelestigladii Oh yes, it (Diaspora: Shattered Armistice) was finished. I played the complete version a few years ago. Over at Hard-Light, you can still get it. They even put the soundtrack up for download too. They were working on another game, but progress stalled.
@@numberyellow Thanks.
Dude. I am glad that you mentioned the BSG video game for the PS2. I played that game back in the day and it was hard. Never gotten quite the hang of it.
Anyways, I am glad you brought up the Nova. Sounds like a very cool ship if it was ever added into canon, or even into Deadlock via mods or what not.
I had forgotten about this game. Had it and it was hard as hell and I don't think I actually managed to finish it. Wonder if I can find it in a box somewhere...
I have that game. Buried in a CD case somewhere. I remembered the missions where you're the Galactica and the guns were wonky.
Your BSG videos are like the only bsg stuff being uploaded to UA-cam rn. Im so glad some people are still talking about Battlestar so it makes my day when you upload them, thanks!
Nerd cookies and spacedock. Which I wish would do more
@@shanenolan5625 you're a hero bro I've been searching
@@shanenolan5625 I actually watched some of space dock's aliens videos without realizing they had 50 bag videos, 10 aliens videos, and 20 halo videos, I'm going to binge the channel all week lol. Thanks!
@The_Local_Goose there are two bsg play lists. The second one has all the first
I binge them regularly.
Spockdock person list of favourit battlestars lest to most is wonderful.
@The_Local_Goose oh . Channel ( Rob j colman) he has a 4 or 5 retrospective bsg . Videos.
The most recent was this week . A Video essay. ( the real heroes of bsg ) the rest are in a play lost .
Videos on tos , rmd. Caprica and blood and chrome. . There are in the play list
He has other Scifi Videos . Dune ,b5 ect
I have the entire Battlestar Prometheus story you referred to saved from way back when it was first published. If you would like copies of the PDFs let me know.
can i have a copy of the pdfs?
i too would like one
I also would like a copy
if you have a copy I would mind a read.
I would like a copy as well
If you think the Playstation game is out of left field, you should have played BSG Online before it closed down in 2019! There were a whole slew of ships to play from capital ships to fighters. For the time, it was a lot of fun!
... not to mention Diaspora wich he doesnt seem to know about either.
Man, I made some of my first internet friends in BSGO. No idea where they are now.
@@mahazkei7709Same honestly, hell i grew up playing BSGO
Wait bsg online got shut down ive been thinking of going back and giving it another go well that's a shame it played kinda ok.
@@Kaiber_Phoenix It was fun for a while, but since the show faded away and there wasn't really anything new in the game, I only logged in for the daily freebies and logged out. Shame though, I really had a bad ass gunship that swatted toasters away like an angry pimp with brass knucks going after a gaggle of hoes not paying their dues! 🤣
So basically this is the Colonial version of the Homeworld Mothership.
If the Hiigarans had spent another decade up arming it before the home world war.
Who knows what we will get in Homeworld 3? Might get just that.
Looks like someone took a Minotaur Gunshipo and stretched it out a bit and added a couple of flight pods :)
I hope at least two of them survived, and we just get to see it. It would make one hell of a spend off, especially if one of the Nova's was named Galactica in honor of the ship she was going to replace.
In My Saga, Two of Them did Survive: The Thermopylae and Achilles
I’d add that the “Cylon War refit” Galactica seen in Blood and Chrome supposedly carried 500 vipers stacked to the gunwales. Her crew compliment was meant to be 2700 and in the show the given population number on Rosalins whiteboard points to Galactica leaving Colonial
space with a crew of 2693 whilst Pegasus arrived with a crew of 1752. Pegasus actually arrives with 2 crew more than she was supposed to carry plus families. Supposedly in Blood and Chrome Galactica had a crew of 5000 people but that film massively upscales the CiC and the ships Viper compliment whilst still being canon.
I love Blood And Chrome Galactica's hangar facility. It looks like real, busy, futuristic carrier inside. I understand why it looked like it looked in RDM series but seeing it in prime makes my inner nerd drooling.
I remember reading some of Battlestar Prometheus. It was supposed to be taking place while BSG was happening. Adama and a few others made some cameo appearances. Essentially, Adama went one way, they went another.
It think, though I am not sure, they made some allies with other groups out there. Perhaps they were drawn from the original series? I remember being on the author's email list. I think I complemented him on his work. He seemed like a pretty friendly guy.
He had also be working on a Star Trek fan fic. His crew, which included LT. Harry Kim, yes, he got his promotion, operated a Defiant class starship named the Reliant.
I was looking for Battlestar Prometheus a few weeks ago, too. Sadly, it has disappeared from the internet, which never forgets anything until you REALLY need something.
Maybe if we could find the original creator we may have a chance of getting it back. As I am sure they'd have kept something of it if not the whole thing.
Love BSG. Great video. There is a tabletop game called Babylon 5 Wars 2nd edition that my friends and I played many years ago. The online community successfully made ship templates for the Colonial and Cylon fleets that were awesome to play.
The Nova was designed to be a flagship with only 3 made, the Prometheus, which was sent of Operation Outreach (I think it was called) to find the 13th Colony which the did, the Atlantia the flagship (mentioned in the miniseries) and the incomplete Nova herself, which is mentioned in the fan fiction and eventually found. There weren't meant to be that many and honestly, they aren't that ridiculous as you implied when you look at other sci-fi franchises like Star Wars etc. I do believe I still have the downloaded series somewhere on my PC. I actually make the banner for the website when the series was still being written by Ryan. As for the game, I had/have it on the original Xbox, it was a difficulit game but was a fun one with some outstanding designs. Certainly fun to play. I have even made some of the 3d models from it, well not complete reproductions but ones inspired by it.
i found a preety good 40k/BSG crossover where a similarly OP Battlestar finds itself woefully outgunned and under armoured during the Gothic War and it joins the Imperial Navy as an auxiliary/privateer ship (the Gothic war was really desperate) after being attacked by and barely surviving a scrape with a Chaos Cruiser. its actually really good and i even helped write the 2nd version of it to make it more "40k" and reactions of Colonial Characters to things in 40k a bit more believable.
If left alone, the best use of its factory would be to firstly do more factories. After that, with increased production, you can start building more ships.
I read a good fanfic . The colonials discovered the cnp and planted cylon attack 24 hours before it occurred. .
A race against tome to purge their systems and get the fleet mobilised set mostly in 24/ 48 hours. .not bad
Could you share the link?
I'd love to read this as well.
Sorry, the site is fanficion.. battlestar galactica 2003. And you will get a list of stories. I think the writer was ( les imry ) .
There are a few different stories. We're the cnp is discovered. What if sort of stories. . ( I can't send a link ) for dome reason .
The title of the story I read . Was . ( the dawn of war ) part one and two .
I've read that one it's not bad
YES!!! I’ve been wanting a breakdown of this absolute toaster-wrecker of a ship since your Mercury Class video!
That game was my first intro into Battlestar it was a great game growing up.
Funnily enough, I didn't know that this thing existed, though the idea of 'Super Battlestar' isn't a new thing.
In one of my fanfic ideas, Colonial Fleet was developing the _Galactica_ class of Battlestars, though due to budget cuts the class was cut to a dozen ships. They were, effectively, the Zumwalts of Colonial Fleet, reworked to not only help allow Colonial Fleet to man and operate such immense vessels but also test new systems that were coming into the field-testing phase (a similar situation to the real-world laser program in the USN, as they're fitting a few ships with a handful of units to test them out). When compared to Earth/Solmanity''s ships, they're great first attempts.
So basically the Senator Tillman battleship designs of the US Navy, but Battlestar Galactica. Cool, but probably impractical.
More like Tillman battleships cranked up to eleven and then squared... Like BAD-fanfic-levels of over-the-top.
Ah yes, the Tillmans of the BSG universe. Ships so massively OP that even 40k nods in respect. I love them.
Good to see someone finally done a vid on the Nova class. Great vid!.👍👍(I played the playstation battlestar galactica game, pretty good but Bloody hard. still got it somewhere.)
There's a great fanmade game called Diaspora: Shattered Armistice that has realistic viper controls and a pretty good story if you're interested in more BSG games.
I _own_ a copy of that game. I've never actually played it. How the hell did you not know about it, RC?
I need more BSG in my Life...Great Video!
I had forgotten about the BSG videogame. I remember reading about it when it came out but I didn't have playstation.
The battlestar galactica game really is good and isnt too hard to find and honestly one of my favourite fighter games to play to date. Theres i think six varients of vipers you can use in different missions you also have wingmen you can try to keep alive that if i remember correctly can also get the upgrades (oh yeah there were upgrades along the different viper varients) to assist in battles and the cylon patrol mission was a pretty fun mission as you fly amongst the cylon fleet in a stolen raider. In all honesty im really supprised theres not much gameplay footage of it seeing how good it was and the viper designs for the most part were really good i think it was the mkV cobra (strike viper) that was a two seater and a boat load of missle launchers.
How big is your ship? Yes! How many guns does it have? Yes! How fast does it go? Yes!
I’ll take your whole stock!
I had two rubber Vipers that were fired off a cardboard launch tube bottom by elastic (catapult) . The target was a cardboard cut out of three cylon Raiders shaped like the window view of the viper . It was an OG Battlestar toy. Yes I’m old .
I have the BSG game. It was such an odd game but really fun. I wish we'd get another BSG game like it
I just remembered I got stuck on mission 11 when you have to pilot the Cobra bomber to destroy Cylon heavy tankers in atmosphere. That mission is frustrating.
If I remember correctly, someone on UA-cam upload a playthrough of the whole game.
If brute force isn't working, you're probably not using enough.
I actually have that Battlestar Galactica game you mentioned on the original Xbox. It's a really fun game however I don't think I ever got very far in it. As at the time I found it quite difficult. I'll have to dig it out and try to play it again. I thought it was really cool though being able to fly around Galactica (and crash into her from time to time) game had some weird controls.
You know, a re-imagined re-imagined series where the Cylon attack isn't as successful would make for a cool show. Probably not as character driven as the Re-Imagined series but still cool. As for the Nova... well... It reminds me a lot of the UNSC Infinity... and we know what happened there.
i found the story of battle-star Prometheus years ago and downloaded it all three seasons. it is good reading
This is very much reminding me of the behemoth command star Aurora out of the Command star aurora BSG alternate Fanfic series. Not only in respect of being the command and control of the fleet, but being a massively over armed battlestar and carrying at least 8 squadrons of vipers.
I was hoping you’d do this ship
God that game footage was a blast from the past, I used to play it on the OG xbox and later 360 with my little brothers, same with MechWarrior:Mech Assault 2 Lone Wolf
This was one of my favorite games when I was a kid. Nice mix of a hard sim and arcade shooter. Story is fun if not taken to seriously. Fun fact, I came in on the series reboot, no idea there had been an 80’s version. I was very confused at the design choices, but damn it there’s nothing like punching out of a launch tube straight into combat.
This is all very creative. 👏
I still have my copy of the PS2 BSG game, was a fun thing back in the day IIRC. Been ages since I've played, need to find my old PS2.
I think I have the promethus story still. On a old Dell pc that needs a power cable.. or its hard driver linked to a other pc.
thank you so much
I've got the Xbox release of the BSG videogame sitting in my BSG display shelf lmao. I didn't know it was so unknown.
Also, a lot of those unused designs were actually recycled for 2017's BSG Deadlock. It's a great space strategy game.
I really enjoyed the BSG game for PS2. Played it for many hours. Never beat it, but had a good time playing it.
In a way, There has been a reboot. "Newhart" A normal kind of guy "Dick Louden", living in a Vermont town full of eccentric town folk.
this makes me extremely happy
I still have the BSG game for my PS2 I loved it.
The Nova-Class. Bigger, Faster, Easier to destroy.
love that line ' a volley of f##k you of epic proportions' hehehe
Found and read the story after looking through a Reddit. Wasn’t that hard as someone uploaded a pdf with google drive. Good story and a fun read. Plowed through it pretty fast. Liked the early cylons found on a old Battlestar who decided not to go along with the crowd. They even flew mk1 vipers instead of raiders.
I have a copy of the game. Got it over a decade ago. Still haven't beaten it yet. I'll try again when I get my ps2 back.
Found the story on an old file sharing site. Can't send to Sci's UA-cam email. Where can I send it?
Speaking of inspiring what ifs, what is the Colonials had a prototype stealth Battlestar leftover from the first Cylon war? I've been running several ideas for stories about it in my head
Nova was NOT canon. It was fanfiction creation. I have 2 models of the Novas and know the guy who sells it (hey Jack!). This was a fan creation battlestar and was never in either of the shows. It IS a badass looking ship though.
The hardest ( for me ) level of the game was the one where you man the deck guns!
So, this thing is not a Battlestar. Its a Mothership refit with Battlestar weaponry. A Motherstar, if you will. Full hydroponics, repair, refit and manufacturing facilities? This thing would have made the exodus a cinch. Slowly train civilians and break down their ships and remake them into a proper fleet. Then take the fight back to the toasters.
Look up the Sanctuary class Warstar then. That thing is basically the BSG version of the UNSC Infinity (RIP) from Halo
Imagine.....galactica with it's civilian fleet....pegasus link up....then a Nova with several mecuries as escorts and civilian fleet. How spectacular that would've been? More space battles, perhaps after the resurrection ship destruction, a mad chase against the cylons🤷♂️
@@user-yq3fz9ch5q They retake the colonies, but they're scorched. All they can do now is mourn, and move towards a new future. Take everything and everyone that remains, and leave behind the past in hope of a brighter future.
Theirs even a Star trek Figther game.... Shatterd Universe was a Wild ride aswell.
A Space Ship that his its bridge INSIDE the hull? Perposterous!
still have a working copy of Battlestar Galactica for my ps2 love that game and it can get hard at some points
Fond the lost info. Internet archive sites have it. Funny I was thinking all of them with the smaller guns before you said it lol
Is that the music from FTL in the background?
I do love this ship, no matter how OP it is.
It’s the super star destroyer of battlestars. Size wise it’s huge for this show but Star Wars takes ship size to a new level.
On the subject of spaceships from space games.... you have a couple months to spin up something for the Homeworld 3 release which I think you'd both appreciate as a setting and as an opportunity to post something trending as a youtuber. This has the added benefit of being a likely platform for a new generation of space-combat mods like Battlestar Galactica: Fleet Commander among many many others.
Sounds like the BSG Universe version of Halos Infinity
"OK, someone make sure he knows about battlestar galactica online" - Me about 4 minutes in
i miss the game. my copy no longer works due to nephew cracking it but i keep it in its case to look back on
Random new alien race: *jumps near colonies*
Fleet of 6 Nova battlestars: *jumps to alien positions*
Random new alien race: *proceeds to self destruct*
Yep played the game before the remake of the show was released, it helped add to the hype for the remake, still have the game, just need a PS5 to play it again
the ps2 game is also on the original xbox, btw. ( and you can play it on 360, it works with backwards compatability )
13:39 THAT'S THE THERMOPYLAE I BUILT!
Speaking of BSG games have you heard of Diaspora: Shattered Armistice the BSG mod for Freespace 2?
I'll say this for the PS2 game, it is hard as balls. I bought this when it came out and I just shelved it and then gave it to a friend, it was only later when I played on an emulator that I could really enjoy it. (mainly because of cheats)
I read a lot of fan fiction with these ships in the stories. They are beasts. 🍻
we need a turn based grand strategy game based on this universe of course with this class battlestar made available as tech levels up!
There is one, called bsg deadlock. However this ship isn't present. But you can play up to a mercury class. Highly recommend the game.
20:14 What game/mod is this? Is it a mod for Freespace 2? If so, how do I get it? I have Knossos.
We need a movie in which a Soverign class from ST (not the enterprise) gets somehow shot back a few hundred thousand years and joins one of these ships with the remains of humanity and joins them against the cylons with hundreds of basestars... I'd watch the shit outa that!
Nova is big?
More like... Destroyer sized. And I don't mean Star Destroyer. I mean Zentraedi Destroyer.
I'm really glad this ship is not cannon. For one, it knocks the Galactica fown another peg to the third rate ship. It also follows the idea that I first saw in Star Wars of, "But what you didn't know is that there's an EVEN BIGGER ship!" I do not care for that at all.
The PS2 BSG game will change your life. This was during the golden age of mid-shelf games that are diamonds in the rough near the end of the PS2s life.
I absolutely love the Mercury Class like the Pegasus she was a beauty.
Make sure someone at SC.I adds this to the BSG playlist.
I had absolutely no idea about the BSG video game but I wish I had a ps2 now LOL
Vid 2 of me asking for your overview of the magistracy of Canopus
I remember reading this fairly avidly.
Wish it hadn’t disappeared; though I have memorised Be All My Sins Remembered, the poem from the episode of the same name…
‘Be all my sins remembered,
From now ‘til Judgement day;
From the day I was born ‘til the day I die,
‘Til I’m under six feet of clay.
Transgressions never forgiven,
And joy is just a memory,
The Hell that awaits me a forgone conclusion,
And all that’s likely to be.
Be all my sins remembered,
I count each and every one,
The crimes I’ve committed, these dreams that I’ve ended,
For all the damage I’ve done.
For heartache and hurt for my actions,
For selfish and evil gain,
For the lives I’ve trampled under my bootheels,
I must now accept the pain.
Be all my sins remembered,
Yes, each and every one,
From the day I was born until this day that I die,
For I was wrong.
Yes, I was wrong,
So wrong. ‘
Haven’t thought about that in years…
And yes, the Nova is my wish-level ship.
But obviously I’d call her The Enterprise… 🖖🏼😏
There is also ONE source as well that no one has seemed to mention in either the original BSG or the Reimagined BSG and that is the Richard Hatch Reimagination. Richard Hatch originally played Apollo in the original BSG (And Tom Zarek in the new BSG) He came up with a reimagination of BSG and that is possibly where the Nova Class Battlestar is mentioned. He wrote sever reimagined books and pitched a new BSG based on his books. Sadly it was ultimately rejected, but at least Hatch got to play again in a BSG series.
So i'd like to make sure he is mentioned in BSG forums as it was Hatch's tireless efforts that made the Reimagined BSG a reality. Respects for his contribution, and keeping BSG alive.
Edit: Also, if you look on UA-cam, Hatch's pitch trailer for his BSG is still up. It's called Battlestar Galactica, The Second Coming. Really good for the time.
I worked in a video game store for several years, never could sell a copy of the BSG PS2 game. Though I did rent a copy and it was rather fun to play.
Normies don't know what BSG was.
A assume you saw the comment from the guy who has and uploaded the entire promethous story? I hope you read that and do a video on it soon.
Very Nice.😎👍
There is also a video by the creator alex on youtube that is called "battle of helios 6"( i think) and it shows the prometheus class with 4 flight pods per side of ship. And taking down multiple basestar
sounds like someone really was prone to powercreep...
It was a titan class battlestar
@@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 on sorry my bad but still looks cool as hell
That's impressive and all, but where do they keep their Dagget legions?
Just curious, what is a battlestar made of? Normal steel?
"How may PCS? ALL OF THEM!" LOL !
8:40 is where it starts.
Good video if you ignore over-enthusiastic complaining. Very curious how the Nova size compares to other Battlestars, like double the size?
I’m not sure, but the Nova and Prometheus might have been in a book series based on BSG
Dear God...the Ork-y Boyz got their hands on Battlestar Galactica tech
I played that game on the original Xbox. It was so much fun!
Seeing that loadout I can understand why the Cylons decided to juat nuke everything all to human hell.
They made a big mistake...DOOM GUYS BACK BABY.