Plus the fact that nobody contacted them asking who the hell they are... or that they didn't encounter a single ship on the way there (you'd expect them to colonize other star systems by that point... they have the FTL technology)
This scene was brutal when I first saw it. In hindsight, you would think they would have scouted the planet *BEFORE* making the "Ok kids, we made it to Wally World" speech......
Though the reason for it was to create the build up for the rug pull, I could see myself in the Admiral's shoes doing the same thing out of overwhelming confidence and excitement.
didn't they have scanners? or at least radios? wouldn't they notice the lack of global broadcasts or you know, the fact that the planet glows in the dark?
@@Clenched.Cheeks They were expecting a civilisation on Earth: the 13th tribe. The fact that nobody contacted them or that they didn't have a request for refugee status there immediately is a massive oversight. As soon as nothing happened upon arrival you, as the audience, know everything is wrong.
One of the worst aspects of BSG is that they had space ships, sceince-defying FTL-drives, etc. Yet somehow every other form of technology was outdated even when the show aired. We've had Geiger counters since 1908... Or their cancer treatments needing chemotherapy eventhough better alternatives already existed when the show came out.
I love that Ron Moore designed this episode to be the series finale if the 2007 writers' strike meant they couldn't finish the show. That makes an already brilliant closer even better.
@@ManyvanhKeovongsa Given that they landed in Africa without prior experience with the wildlife and threw all their tech away, I can't imagine it went well.
@pelagicboreas but we know it went well. Hera Agathon is the Mitochondrial Eve, the person to whom all modern humans can trace their ancestry one way or another. That means that at least one of their communities flourished for generations and eventually connected with the Earthborn humans. Even if they hadn't told us that in the epilogue, the fact that all their Greek mythological names came to be remembered certainly implies their culture didn't die out so easily.
I loved it when it aired. The entire time the show was on, my dad kept telling me that in the original Galactica, when they finally found earth, the twist was that it was modern earth. Not only did they manage to subvert expectations, but they one upped that twist.
I always love the fact that, at 6:05, you can see Tyrol in the back with a big smirk on his face while he's looking around, like the universe just played a joke on him and he found it funny.
I came here to comment exactly about that. We can also see him smiling when Lee and the Cylons are discussing the final five's destiny. Always loved his later nihilistic state of mind.
Not a lot of shows would have been gutsy enough to pull a bait and switch quite this brutal. I mean, they REALLY build it up to be the fleet's moment of triumph, and then the second you hear that Geiger counter going...woof. War never changes, indeed.
There is of course a minor plot hole there. Galactica has sensors capable of detecting the radiation of fissile material inside a nuclear warhead out in the open, across orbital ranges, with the fissile material encased in radiation shielding sufficient for safe handling by humans. How come they couldn't detect the planet's radioactivity?
@@amitakartok You have to figure how many eons have passed since this planet was laid wasted. Any active radiation would have long since dissipated. Low level radiation shielded through the ionosphere might have just appeared as background radiation, but on close examination they know that it's penetrated entirely throughout the soil and the planet's basically dead.
@@rcslyman8929 This kind of sterilization is what I think of as 'Hollywood Style Radiation', rather than a realistic portrayal of how life would reestablish after a nuclear war. More plausibly the planet would have become overgrown like Kobol and been perfectly suitable for the Colonials to colonize. But that wouldn't have served the writer's desires to stamp the last traces of hope and optimism out of the Colonials. Something like the first episode "33" which immediately put the Cylons back on the tail of the Colonials after their brilliant escape in the pilot. Good episode, but it was an example of the Colonials being torn down over and over for that grim dark edgy quality.
I had a flipped one for an ep of Enterprise: "Fleeing the Xindi tyranny, the last NX-type starship Enterprise leads a ragtag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest: a shining planet known as 'Ceti Alpha V.'"
@@blackjac5000 Twilight, the only good episode from S3. However the BSG parallels could not be ignored. Of course it used the tried and true Star Trek plot device called the reset button. Created for Yesterday's Enterprise, perfected for Year Of Hell.
Follow the journey of the Starship Voyager as it attempts to make it's way home to Earth from the delta quadrant, joining it is a ragtag group of ships eager to try Earth cuisine.
I viewed this series a second time with my 12 yo son and had hidden the rest of the episodes of this season. He was convinced this was the ending of the show and was shocked, just like I was the first time I saw this episode. After 4 weeks I reveiled the remaining episodes, he liked the real ending just as much and appriciated that I gave him the same feeling I experienced.
Everyone: "You can only do the nuked Earth twist effectively once and then it becomes tired and cliche. Planet of the Apes was it." Ronald D. Moore: "Hold my Ambrosia."
I love how all the prophecies mean many things. "A dying leader" refers to both Roslin and the battlestar that leads the human fleet as the weight of its task begins to break Galactica's backbone.
I liked how everyone had their own expressions of dejection and sorrow. The reaction of Deanna looking to Roslin & Adama for comfort and not finding it was the best of all.
When I first saw this show, I knew the second we saw the first visual of this planet that it wasn't our Earth: They didn't show any identifiable continents. They showed the night side of the planet, ocean, and clouds. Contrast that with the actual Earth in the series finale, where they showed a full-on view of Africa.
I love how at the time, we thought that .............. SPOILERS....... it was OUR EARTH and we nuked it. But in the end, we find out that this show wasn't a future tale......but that it's way in the past. Brilliant show.
Mitchell Melkin Sorta. But if you look at it, it has similar architecture to the temples that pointed them to earth in the first place. Also if you look in future episodes and flashbacks to the colonies the architecture is similar. This episode did such a good job of knocking you on your ass. I remember when I first saw it, I totally felt like everyone on the planet.
Would've been funny tho if there was one last group of native survivors in that planet loading up a ship who said to them "oh hey, thanks for coming back to get us, I thought we were gonna have to find Caprica on our own".
Thanks so much for uploading! The soundtrack for this (Diaspora Oratorio) is my favourite for the entire show, according to his blog it almost broke the composer Bear McCreary but it ended up being his personal favourite 'I suffered for this music, and for no piece more so than the episode’s climactic reveal of Earth, a work I called “Diaspora Oratorio.” I typically spend no more than a day composing the biggest cues for Battlestar Galactica. And even at that, most of the process is spent in orchestrating and fleshing out my original idea, which is usually conceived in less than an hour. The Oratorio took me a week. During this time, my creative energies were at a new low. I had just finished the two sold-out Galactica concerts at the Roxy and the last thing I felt like doing was writing music again, especially knowing that the final cue had to outshine all my previous work. The entire series has been leading to the discovery of Earth, and the music needed to match. And so, I threw myself into the darkness and was lost. I struggled, doubted and erased. I threw out draft after draft, started over time and time again. I lost sleep. My dreams were filled with the fear that if writing a worthy piece of music were not actually impossible, accomplishing it would merely raise the bar for next time. ' bearmccreary.com/#blog/blog/battlestar-galactica-3/bg4-revelations/
IF this had been the final episode it would have been a gut punch, but people would still be discussing it today. The colonies and cylons destroyed each other, but we destroyed ourselves.
@@shaneodonnell151 Nah, I still think that S4 served as a better ending and summary of BSG. This ending was too dark compared to the rest of the show. S4 finale was filled with so much hope and it was a really bittersweet ending that had me crying and laughing in one
Except that this planet is not the one we're on now. You can't deploy atomic munitions without aftereffects that are visible much later, and our own planet simply isn't old enough for the events of the show.
Anticipation and then disappointment - no talking just the camera on their faces - that says it all - Now years later when i see this it still hurts again - One of my favorite scenes!
In an alternate universe the Humans and Cylons were attacked by Ghouls, Super Mutants, Deathclaws and mutant wildlife when they landed. They were then approached by Preston Garvey telling them another settlement is under attack by local raiders.
I remember everyone talking about this back in the day and trying to analyze the skyline to see which of our cities it was, not only was this a gut punch they let us keep thinking till the end of the show that this was our earth
I remember watching this live and when they made it to earth, I was so disappointed. I was like, "Great we still have half a season left. So we're going to spend a bunch of episodes with the Galactica fleet and the earth civilization not getting a long. it's going to be like Pegasus all over again where adama's going to have to assert himself again." Then they got down to the surface and I was like, "Oh, I guess I was wrong." lol This show was great. I wish there was more epics like this. It had mystery, intrigue, one continuous story line and fabulous characters
They really put one over on the audience with all the celebration. We should have known better. We humans have a saying - "Never count your chickens before they've hatched." If Adama was the commander we all believed he was he would have sent raptors ahead to verify the planet was there, observe if there were any hostiles around and scan/survey the planet and then jump back with a report. You don't jump the fleet in blind and then announce to everyone that their journey is at its end without first doing the best possible job of trying to ensure everything is as it needs to be. We should have expected that it wasn't the end just by the buildup.
This is when I literally tapped out. I never watched another full episode. That was a shame too because it looks like it got better but after this... just no... I was done.
@@craigmartinj Hey, you should go back and finish it. The ending was bittersweet but very, very good. I still like to go back to those bits on UA-cam and rewatch them now and then.
BSG was an epic series that will never be duplicated again. If you take into account what happened to them with technology and look at us today it is almost Prophetic that we are traveling down the same road they did. Pretty eye opening.
What bothered me the most was Dualla’s reaction. I started having a problem when she was talking to herself on the flight back to Galactica and Helo was attempting to calm her down. After her relationship with Apollo failed the idea of Earth was the one thing that kept her going. Once that was gone it was game over, for D anyway.
Masterfully deflating moment. Got to feel "WtF Now" for a whole year waiting for the last season. I remember thinking during the celebration montage: "Why's no one coming up to say hi?"
You know, when you know what's coming, the Diasporo Oratorio (the music in this video) is utterly heartbreaking. They've suffered so much, lost so much, fought so much to be here and what....a nuclear wasteland. Not a triumphant finale to their years of endurance but the ultimate tragedy. I mean, they must be thinking "now what? now what do we do?". Such a poignantly heartbreaking , utterly crushing moment.
I wouldn't say the whole world was irradiated, but that the nuclear exchange likely wiped out the majority of fuana and plants on the world. When they found it, its likely after 2000 years was barely starting to recover. Any green available likely was moss, resistant grasese, small bushes perhaps a few resitant trees, likely hold overs that survived on small islands on that world that likely made it to the mainland. It probably would be thousands of more years before it recovered enough to be habital again. Given that in the 150000 years to current humans timeline, its likely that life has returned to that world if only in probably small plants and trees, but likely still little to no major large fauna. We know life can return to irradiated worlds cause Kobal when it was found, was habitable and they likely suffered a nuclear exchange at some point as well in its past that that past was older than that of Earth 1.
@@charlesdavis545 who said it needed to recover. The surviving flora and fauna are adapting to their irradiated world, it’s just not fit for long term human habitation
@@jamesxiaolong2199 I do; I don't need a science lesson about the state of plant life. I made a statement; I didn't ask a question, in which case your response would be validated. Don't overthink it.
This scene was a major punch in the gut the first time I saw it. It felt like everything had been for this moment, only for the moment to be a nightmare.
@@MORE1500 Funny how everyone on the left thought Trump would bring about WW3. Instead, he was bringing about peace in the middle east. Perhaps those making predictions, should learn to shut up and learn about life and the human condition beyond what some professor who's never worked in the real world spouted off in a classroom.
Well yes technically it is earth....though earth just means "ground" so it's just a title you would pretty much use for any planet humanity lives on, or a title like King that they pass on.
I love what a mindfuck this scene was when they get there and the planet's totally irradiated. The show could've even ended there and I would've been pissed, but would've respected the show for that too.
I love this series. Me and my brother watched it on box sets with our dad and I'm only now catching up on it via these clips. I was a bit too young to understand the plot back then.
To those who said I should rewatch it. I finished a rewatch earlier this week. :D It did not disappoint and I'm glad that Is forgotten so much of the show only to discover it all again. All of it is great!
That last part was amusing because as they entered orbit all I could think was, I wonder what the background radiation is like. I remember all the mushroom clouds in the first episodes.
This was acute for me when I first saw this as a New Yorker a few yeas after 9-11, obviously the visuals evoked an image of a bombed out Manhatan and the Brooklyn Bridge broken.
Wouldn't work, for Galactica had skilled writers and The 100 was just churned out to capitalize on the success of The Hunger Games: ua-cam.com/video/emF_I_Q9jNo/v-deo.html
This was best gut punch every done in television history and then they follow up with dee's suicide, these were a couple brutal weeks in my life waiting on the next episode for some kind of hope.
@CK Lim Japanese cities were nuke by atomic weapons not nuclear. Nuclear leave behind cesium and strontium that break down slowly over 10,000s of years. Chernobyl is not safe and has an exclusion zone around it.
@@tammymartinez7488 It may have much larger land area, and the devastation may not have been the same type. The information about ancient Kobol and the geography of the other Earth is too sparse to make a valid comparison.
I know the story requires Earth to be a lifeless wasteland after a nuclear attack, but after 2000 years, nature should have restored the biosphere. The soil wouldn't be radioactive after so long since the half-life of even weakly radioactive materials like Cs is 30 years. The atmosphere also has oxygen, which means that photosynthetic plankton and algae probably still exist in the ocean. With a lot of work, they could have made the Earth habitable again.
Or take a step further and they find a new species has arisen to sentience, maybe they could be either dogs or cats or maybe some of the alien races featured in the original series like the pig like Boray or the insectoid Ovions.
This scene is so beautifully sad. The human race - weary, defeated, and facing certain extinction - comes upon a blue/green planet teeming with water and abundant life, thousands of light-years from their native solar system. Wonder and joy turn to absolute disbelief, grief even, as the reality sets in that this planet, so full of hope and promise, cannot sustain life; even more devastating is the revelation that the planet fell victim to a recurring conflict of a servant race rising up against their masters. I always get lost in the score and the camera flybys of the fleet. I feel like I, too, am in a vessel on this incredible journey. I compare it to being on a long, turbulent flight on a full plane: people from every imaginable walk-of-life bonded by the experience of being confined to a craft that’s protecting you from the forces of nature. The scene is complemented by the detailed look of the ships against the void of space and the planet’s star. Sometimes you forget that the characters have spent the better part of the last few years on aging chunks of metal cruising through space. Children have been born and don’t know fresh air. Teens have come of age and lost their innocence. Adults, even battle hardened military personnel, are trying to make sense of their new existence. As others have said, this scene is a punch in the gut. I can’t help but think that somewhere in our own universe, there is a human civilization searching for hope.
I agree completely! I love the way they wove this entire story together! And then when they finally do find Earth, the way that last episode tries it all together is simply phenomenal. This is probably the best scifi series I've ever seen, and that's saying something because I am a huge Trekkie! Lol I especially like the way it was all gritty and real life, so to speak.
@@Smenkhaare Nah, it makes sense: after all the hell she'd gone through, watching her home get carpet-nuked and what few survivors were left were chased off to wander the Deep Dark, they make it to the Promised Land only to see that it too had been nuked, and she couldn't take it anymore so she checked out on a high note.
This was one of the sad episodes. I was afraid Starbuck was a Cylon creation for a minute there. To see a version of Earth in this shape was horrible. What a well done show. I try to watch the series yearly. I just watched it a few months ago and already itching to watch it again. Very good channel you have. I don't check in often enough.
Long before Walking Dead and Game of Thrones were teaching us how to love characters and cry ourselves sick over watching them die horribly, BSG taught us how to have a glorious, beautiful, shimmering ray of hope and joy and watch it get pissed and shit upon like a pack of wild dogs doin' their business all over the finest Persian rug. Ah, the sweet, sweet memories. :-)
@NightRunner417 Scatological, if accurate summation of my own sense of nerd rage regarding the stupidity that was the Mitochondrial Earth conclusion to the BSG story. *Spoilers* What I always like to think of is that line of Colonials we see walking off into the grasslands with no equipment or support. Those people are doomed by a lack of the spacecraft (power, housing, knowledge, industrial capacity, healthcare, security, food, etc.) after Adama chucked the ships into the sun. Further doomed by the deceptively beautiful, but hostile environment they are walking into. (Sabertooths still lived until about 12k years ago, for example). Given the ancient setting, none of the Colonial knowledge seems to have survived long. Proper farming, writing, metal working, architecture, and so on seem not to be a part of our real historic record until somewhere in the last 20K years, much less the order of magnitude greater age we were given for the BSG arrival. This directly points to the 'only' thing the Colonials really bring to this Earth is that tiny bit of Human/Cylon genetic material having been subsequently passed down to the present. A sort of Kilroy was here marker engineered by the Kobol 'God' who's been pulling the strings (master of both Head Six and Head Baltar) to result in a humanity which might ultimately escape the Cycle. As for the rest of Colonial history and her people - all lost. (Perhaps a godly wager made between Zeus and another member of the pantheon about Humanity being able to break the Cycle) Even more depressing, whereas the show hinted at the idea of Humans and Cylons being able to put aside their differences and potentially building a joint civilization, the ultimate concluding situation is one where our modern humanity will cluelessly have to face our own mind children (A.I.) as well as potentially running into those ancient Kobol era and Colonial Era Cylon civilizations that may still be around. Potentially echoing the Ship of Light beneficial aliens of the original series - if we're lucky. My preference for the show would have been to see Humanity and the Cylons escape 'The Cycle' by joining together. Possibly becoming a variation on the Ship of Light aliens I just mentioned. Possibly largely returning to Colonial space or possibly becoming a permanently spaceborn fleet. I saw no compelling reason for the Colonials to chuck their ships in the sun, as the main antagonists of Humanity had already died. What that final battle offered up instead was a way for most of the Colonials to jointly return to their worlds and rebuild with the Cylons. Our Earth might've had it's Adam and Eve story hook (if we must) by adapting the original series idea of Starbuck being stranded with a humaniform Cylon and starting over.
@@jasonp.1195 I'd say TLDR but you put a lot of thought into that and I did read it, and so I do respect your viewpoint and your obvious intellect. You do point out a lot of valid technical flaws with the ending. I just don't watch shows that I like for technical accuracy, because they are frankly so far and few between. Expanse is a good example of a show that gets *most* of it right, and I do adore that show, but even Expanse has plenty of technical holes in it if you're willing to look. I find personally that if I look too hard, I'll spend way too much time criticizing and hating and too little actually enjoying the experience. BSG wasn't meant to be an exposition on common sense behavior, perfect plot nor scientific accuracy. It was just plain meant to be exciting. That's the spirit I took it in, just like how I took "Lost", and so I was able to enjoy both thoroughly. I don't feel embarrassed for liking them. Rather, I feel pity for those who spend so much time and energy ripping apart fiction that they walk away with a bad experience where others that didn't take it so seriously had a good one. Entertainment _can_ be taken seriously, just not _too_ seriously. For some perspective and a truly migraine inducing abuse of reality in a tv show, try The 100. Entertaining, yes. Logical, rational, or even remotely plausible? Oh hell no, not even close. Then compare that to BSG which at least tried to be realistic in many ways, and the whole conversation we just had seems a little pointless when there is so much worse to be had for critiquing.
@@NightRunner417 Thank you for the kind response. I do tend to get interested in the world building of stories hanging together to at least a reasonable level. Also for characters to act somewhat intelligently in reaction to their situations. With the first few seasons of "BSG or what I've seen of the excellent "Expanse", both goals seem to have been comfortably met. This being a reason I initially loved BSG so much. I'd add in another personal favorite, "Farscape", which I can't say has the strongest world building, but which does have fabulous character interactions and a solidly satisfying conclusion. However much I loved the first seasons, with the later seasons of BSG I started seeing too much of the weakness of "Lost" style 'Mystery Box' storytelling playing out. As in a compelling 'look at this' mystery would be introduced, but the pay off to the thread often fizzled down to a "Drink more Ovaltine" bit of lameness. That or the character's motivations had become stretched out to the point they were no longer much beyond a set of habits rather than a well fleshed out characters. Baltar, for example. As an example from BSG, I felt that having the always contentious and stubborn fleet survivors suddenly being down with throwing away all their technology in the conclusion would have been a hard 'Hell no' for at least the captains of those vessels and others who'd been building up their new hardscrabble and largely unseen lives in the fleet. Think of people who now have vulnerable young children in the fleet. We'd seen that there are some, would those parents be keen to abandon it all? Doubtful. As for the length of my posts. Sorry, It looks kind of endless on a phone, but on a big PC screen it seems more harmless.
If the strike was not resolved I am sure those 3 finished episodes of season 4.5 would have been released eventually, maybe not aired but they would have at least been put on the season 4 DVD set as extra bonus episodes. Then they would have finished the story in book or comic form.
The fact that there were no lights on the dark side was a good visual clue of what was to come.
OMG--I never noticed that!!!
Plus the fact that nobody contacted them asking who the hell they are... or that they didn't encounter a single ship on the way there (you'd expect them to colonize other star systems by that point... they have the FTL technology)
@@unematrixThey didn’t have FTL though
@@unematrix you actually thought that show was playing at our time? 😂
Did they expect Earth to be inhabited?
This scene was brutal when I first saw it.
In hindsight, you would think they would have scouted the planet *BEFORE* making the "Ok kids, we made it to Wally World" speech......
Though the reason for it was to create the build up for the rug pull, I could see myself in the Admiral's shoes doing the same thing out of overwhelming confidence and excitement.
It wasn't in the script...lol
didn't they have scanners? or at least radios? wouldn't they notice the lack of global broadcasts or you know, the fact that the planet glows in the dark?
@@Clenched.Cheeks They were expecting a civilisation on Earth: the 13th tribe.
The fact that nobody contacted them or that they didn't have a request for refugee status there immediately is a massive oversight.
As soon as nothing happened upon arrival you, as the audience, know everything is wrong.
One of the worst aspects of BSG is that they had space ships, sceince-defying FTL-drives, etc.
Yet somehow every other form of technology was outdated even when the show aired. We've had Geiger counters since 1908...
Or their cancer treatments needing chemotherapy eventhough better alternatives already existed when the show came out.
I love that Ron Moore designed this episode to be the series finale if the 2007 writers' strike meant they couldn't finish the show. That makes an already brilliant closer even better.
I wonder what happened when they all land on earth what's next
@@ManyvanhKeovongsa Given that they landed in Africa without prior experience with the wildlife and threw all their tech away, I can't imagine it went well.
@@pelagicboreas Jumanji, but horror
@pelagicboreas but we know it went well. Hera Agathon is the Mitochondrial Eve, the person to whom all modern humans can trace their ancestry one way or another. That means that at least one of their communities flourished for generations and eventually connected with the Earthborn humans.
Even if they hadn't told us that in the epilogue, the fact that all their Greek mythological names came to be remembered certainly implies their culture didn't die out so easily.
A tremendous twist by the writers, and a huge gut punch for the fans. That last scene is MASTERFULLY directed.
it worked because it made sense.
5:13 is the last cut. All the hype around those fake unbroken shots. This is how its actually done
I loved it when it aired. The entire time the show was on, my dad kept telling me that in the original Galactica, when they finally found earth, the twist was that it was modern earth. Not only did they manage to subvert expectations, but they one upped that twist.
@@bigbitehood1353 much like the opening scene from the series pilot. One long, amazing shot.
Not as big a gut punch as the actual ending. "Her back's broken. She'll never jump again."
I always love the fact that, at 6:05, you can see Tyrol in the back with a big smirk on his face while he's looking around, like the universe just played a joke on him and he found it funny.
He was probably right in thinking so
LOL I just noticed that....Like he was laughing at the punchline to some savage joke.
He's the only enlisted guy in the group, and is responding in true, enlisted maintainer fashion!
As you were, Chief.
lol, seems like the kind of thing an actor would do on their own because they thought it would fit their character
I came here to comment exactly about that. We can also see him smiling when Lee and the Cylons are discussing the final five's destiny. Always loved his later nihilistic state of mind.
Not a lot of shows would have been gutsy enough to pull a bait and switch quite this brutal. I mean, they REALLY build it up to be the fleet's moment of triumph, and then the second you hear that Geiger counter going...woof. War never changes, indeed.
If you watch closely there was a hint before the Geiger counter - no lights in the night side.
@@jblonar And no clear outlines of continents on the day-side, which would've given away that this wasn't the planet we thought it was.
There is of course a minor plot hole there. Galactica has sensors capable of detecting the radiation of fissile material inside a nuclear warhead out in the open, across orbital ranges, with the fissile material encased in radiation shielding sufficient for safe handling by humans. How come they couldn't detect the planet's radioactivity?
@@amitakartok You have to figure how many eons have passed since this planet was laid wasted. Any active radiation would have long since dissipated. Low level radiation shielded through the ionosphere might have just appeared as background radiation, but on close examination they know that it's penetrated entirely throughout the soil and the planet's basically dead.
@@rcslyman8929 This kind of sterilization is what I think of as 'Hollywood Style Radiation', rather than a realistic portrayal of how life would reestablish after a nuclear war. More plausibly the planet would have become overgrown like Kobol and been perfectly suitable for the Colonials to colonize. But that wouldn't have served the writer's desires to stamp the last traces of hope and optimism out of the Colonials. Something like the first episode "33" which immediately put the Cylons back on the tail of the Colonials after their brilliant escape in the pilot. Good episode, but it was an example of the Colonials being torn down over and over for that grim dark edgy quality.
The fancy destinations always look way better on the holidays brochures.
Air B&B locations Always look Better Online than in Person.
@@markplott4820 they could not even get a refund.
pretty funny comment!
Lmao!!!
"Let's go there for the holidays, honey, they say it's nothing like our nuked-to-hell home!"
"Earth, the final frontier"
"These are the voyages of the Battlestar Galactica!"
I had a flipped one for an ep of Enterprise: "Fleeing the Xindi tyranny, the last NX-type starship Enterprise leads a ragtag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest: a shining planet known as 'Ceti Alpha V.'"
blackjac5000 That would've been a cool arc to have for a few episodes
they never realy did anything interesting with the whole time travel concep
@@blackjac5000 Twilight, the only good episode from S3. However the BSG parallels could not be ignored.
Of course it used the tried and true Star Trek plot device called the reset button. Created for Yesterday's Enterprise, perfected for Year Of Hell.
Follow the journey of the Starship Voyager as it attempts to make it's way home to Earth from the delta quadrant, joining it is a ragtag group of ships eager to try Earth cuisine.
I viewed this series a second time with my 12 yo son and had hidden the rest of the episodes of this season. He was convinced this was the ending of the show and was shocked, just like I was the first time I saw this episode. After 4 weeks I reveiled the remaining episodes, he liked the real ending just as much and appriciated that I gave him the same feeling I experienced.
Whahaha! Way to go dad! Nice one!
Saddened never watched this with my dad. Gonna start over Christmas
My goodness that’s the most evil thing ever.
Epic parenting right there!!
Dad of the year award.
My god i remember being 17 and having to wait 6 months or more for the second part. The hype was unequalled to this day
Everyone: "You can only do the nuked Earth twist effectively once and then it becomes tired and cliche. Planet of the Apes was it."
Ronald D. Moore: "Hold my Ambrosia."
Indeed. Even Charleton Heston's character in Planet of the Apes is saying now......."Damn youuuu"
@@richardharris3423 "frack youuuu, frack you all to hell"
Great comment.
Even the Cylons were dismayed when they found signs of Spaceballs!
Oh, I don’t know. Some themes can go on and on... if done correctly.
1:28 The lights around Galactica’s name flicker. Even then, you can tell that the old girl doesn’t have much time left.
Good eye. Never noticed that before.
I love how all the prophecies mean many things. "A dying leader" refers to both Roslin and the battlestar that leads the human fleet as the weight of its task begins to break Galactica's backbone.
There's more to Earth than Seattle in November. They should have gone south a bit.
Lol. They did say they checked the whole planet. Obviously forgot about bunkers and underground shelters still harbouring life
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming well rember the original battestar glactica
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 I am 17 years old... I have no memory of the original XD
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 How did that end?
That's Vancouver, thank you very much. :P
You cut it off before Adama said, "Okay everybody, start building pyramids!"
If fans wrote fanfic I'm sure there is a reason for survival.
I liked how everyone had their own expressions of dejection and sorrow. The reaction of Deanna looking to Roslin & Adama for comfort and not finding it was the best of all.
When I first saw this show, I knew the second we saw the first visual of this planet that it wasn't our Earth: They didn't show any identifiable continents. They showed the night side of the planet, ocean, and clouds. Contrast that with the actual Earth in the series finale, where they showed a full-on view of Africa.
What about the Earth on the season 3 finale? I'm pretty sure it was our Earth, as we clearly saw America.
@@carlosrz3619 that wasn’t the 13th tribe’s Earth, but was a nice scene of things to come
@@sudoertor2009 I agree that the series needed a better ending. But what you said isn't it.
And as soon as I saw them highlighting Africa I knew they had arrived in our distant past.
@@sudoertor2009 they should have ended it on this shot with the wire's closing credits song 👌🏾
One episode later.... *Everyone in the fleet is on suicide watch.*
Even the crew of the suicide watch...
@@kristofgulyas2541 Especially the crew of the suicide watch!
Could allways go back to Kobol I guess... 😅
@@20thcentury94 Lmao!! Well sure, if you know you're going to pay a toll in lives anyways, why not?
Laura burning Elosha's scrolls was especially heartbreaking. :(
This right here is one of the most beautiful pieces of Bear McCreary's magnificent score.
I love how at the time, we thought that ..............
SPOILERS.......
it was OUR EARTH and we nuked it.
But in the end, we find out that this show wasn't a future tale......but that it's way in the past. Brilliant show.
Laura Roslin: "You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! Gods damn you all to hell!"
I dont know that bridge kind of looked like the Brooklyn Bridge. It looked eerily like NYC.
@@HemiHitter That's my immediate reaction as well.
Mitchell Melkin Sorta. But if you look at it, it has similar architecture to the temples that pointed them to earth in the first place. Also if you look in future episodes and flashbacks to the colonies the architecture is similar. This episode did such a good job of knocking you on your ass. I remember when I first saw it, I totally felt like everyone on the planet.
Would've been funny tho if there was one last group of native survivors in that planet loading up a ship who said to them
"oh hey, thanks for coming back to get us, I thought we were gonna have to find Caprica on our own".
Oh. Nice. Looks like they landed in frakkin Detroit.
Sydney
No, that's L.A. after Gavin Newsom's reign of stupidity!
Kinda looks like Slough to me, but much tidier and cleaner.
Hell no! Detroit looks worse than that!😀
No way. The 'ruins' are in too good of condition for that to be Detroit.
Thanks so much for uploading! The soundtrack for this (Diaspora Oratorio) is my favourite for the entire show, according to his blog it almost broke the composer Bear McCreary but it ended up being his personal favourite
'I suffered for this music, and for no piece more so than the episode’s climactic reveal of Earth, a work I called “Diaspora Oratorio.”
I typically spend no more than a day composing the biggest cues for Battlestar Galactica. And even at that, most of the process is spent in orchestrating and fleshing out my original idea, which is usually conceived in less than an hour. The Oratorio took me a week. During this time, my creative energies were at a new low. I had just finished the two sold-out Galactica concerts at the Roxy and the last thing I felt like doing was writing music again, especially knowing that the final cue had to outshine all my previous work. The entire series has been leading to the discovery of Earth, and the music needed to match.
And so, I threw myself into the darkness and was lost. I struggled, doubted and erased. I threw out draft after draft, started over time and time again. I lost sleep. My dreams were filled with the fear that if writing a worthy piece of music were not actually impossible, accomplishing it would merely raise the bar for next time. '
bearmccreary.com/#blog/blog/battlestar-galactica-3/bg4-revelations/
This is how to subvert expectations correctly. A pity that almost no one since this show has been able to do that well.
Stargate Universe stated the obvious but didn't.
IF this had been the final episode it would have been a gut punch, but people would still be discussing it today. The colonies and cylons destroyed each other, but we destroyed ourselves.
I think this would have been a better ending.
@@shaneodonnell151 Nah, I still think that S4 served as a better ending and summary of BSG. This ending was too dark compared to the rest of the show. S4 finale was filled with so much hope and it was a really bittersweet ending that had me crying and laughing in one
@@2KOOLURATOOLGaming
s4 ending was retardex, but it went down better than this would have.
Except that this planet is not the one we're on now. You can't deploy atomic munitions without aftereffects that are visible much later, and our own planet simply isn't old enough for the events of the show.
Uh, didn't Cyclons destroy it?
Anticipation and then disappointment - no talking just the camera on their faces - that says it all - Now years later when i see this it still hurts again - One of my favorite scenes!
Amazing show for a sci-fi series. Nothing back then compares and very few still do to this day.
In an alternate universe the Humans and Cylons were attacked by Ghouls, Super Mutants, Deathclaws and mutant wildlife when they landed. They were then approached by Preston Garvey telling them another settlement is under attack by local raiders.
Naah. After landing they would join the Republic of Dave.
"I understood that reference.' BOY did I understand that reference!
Naw guys. They landed and see a bright light in the Mojave Desert…
At least it’s not raining
House would be so disappointed when his colony ships get blown up by cylons.
I remember everyone talking about this back in the day and trying to analyze the skyline to see which of our cities it was, not only was this a gut punch they let us keep thinking till the end of the show that this was our earth
I knew from the first look it wasn't Earth; not one recognizable land mass.
Arguably the greatest kick in the balls in TV history lol. My mind was blown by this scene!
Only the scene in Cowboy Bebop when Faye gets her memory back but goes home to find nothing but a crater even comes close.
yeah, mine STILL ache
This is like the penguins in Madagascar finding out what really was Antartica.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND.
I remember watching this live and when they made it to earth, I was so disappointed. I was like, "Great we still have half a season left. So we're going to spend a bunch of episodes with the Galactica fleet and the earth civilization not getting a long. it's going to be like Pegasus all over again where adama's going to have to assert himself again." Then they got down to the surface and I was like, "Oh, I guess I was wrong." lol This show was great. I wish there was more epics like this. It had mystery, intrigue, one continuous story line and fabulous characters
“We made it, kid” and Saul always kill me.
That was a kicker-they expected a paradise...then they were gut-shocked, "this has all happened before" was based on a true story.
This was such a punch in the gut, the writers were evil
Nah, they were just being real
They really put one over on the audience with all the celebration. We should have known better. We humans have a saying - "Never count your chickens before they've hatched."
If Adama was the commander we all believed he was he would have sent raptors ahead to verify the planet was there, observe if there were any hostiles around and scan/survey the planet and then jump back with a report. You don't jump the fleet in blind and then announce to everyone that their journey is at its end without first doing the best possible job of trying to ensure everything is as it needs to be.
We should have expected that it wasn't the end just by the buildup.
This is when I literally tapped out. I never watched another full episode. That was a shame too because it looks like it got better but after this... just no... I was done.
@@craigmartinj Hey, you should go back and finish it. The ending was bittersweet but very, very good. I still like to go back to those bits on UA-cam and rewatch them now and then.
It did take some of the characters to a home, just not a new one. It gave them self-awareness.
The joy of the arrival scene is shadowed only by the immense sadness that follows.
BSG was an epic series that will never be duplicated again. If you take into account what happened to them with technology and look at us today it is almost Prophetic that we are traveling down the same road they did. Pretty eye opening.
It's been over 10 years now, and yet, I only have one thing to say that Paramount can't top this with a gallon of Cool whip!!!
What bothered me the most was Dualla’s reaction. I started having a problem when she was talking to herself on the flight back to Galactica and Helo was attempting to calm her down. After her relationship with Apollo failed the idea of Earth was the one thing that kept her going.
Once that was gone it was game over, for D anyway.
Couple that with the guilt she felt after screwing up in the episode "33"
😂😂😂😂😂
Masterfully deflating moment. Got to feel "WtF Now" for a whole year waiting for the last season.
I remember thinking during the celebration montage: "Why's no one coming up to say hi?"
The fact that there were no recognizable land masses, nor light on any of the continents clinched it for me. I never expected that ending though
I like Tyrol's defeat-laughing in the background.
You know, when you know what's coming, the Diasporo Oratorio (the music in this video) is utterly heartbreaking. They've suffered so much, lost so much, fought so much to be here and what....a nuclear wasteland. Not a triumphant finale to their years of endurance but the ultimate tragedy. I mean, they must be thinking "now what? now what do we do?". Such a poignantly heartbreaking , utterly crushing moment.
We wanted everything for them. When they showed up to a wasteland it broke my heart.
Oh god, this was one of the biggest gut punches in TV history. Almost to the same level as Captain Picard being revealed as Locutus.
What's crazy about this is it's 2000 years later and the planet is still irradiated while looking lush and green from above.
I wouldn't say the whole world was irradiated, but that the nuclear exchange likely wiped out the majority of fuana and plants on the world. When they found it, its likely after 2000 years was barely starting to recover. Any green available likely was moss, resistant grasese, small bushes perhaps a few resitant trees, likely hold overs that survived on small islands on that world that likely made it to the mainland. It probably would be thousands of more years before it recovered enough to be habital again. Given that in the 150000 years to current humans timeline, its likely that life has returned to that world if only in probably small plants and trees, but likely still little to no major large fauna. We know life can return to irradiated worlds cause Kobal when it was found, was habitable and they likely suffered a nuclear exchange at some point as well in its past that that past was older than that of Earth 1.
Chernobyl looks green, but that doesn’t necessarily make it safe to grow food there.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 You're missing the point; it doesn't take 2000 years for the planet to recover.
@@charlesdavis545 who said it needed to recover. The surviving flora and fauna are adapting to their irradiated world, it’s just not fit for long term human habitation
@@jamesxiaolong2199 I do; I don't need a science lesson about the state of plant life. I made a statement; I didn't ask a question, in which case your response would be validated. Don't overthink it.
This scene was a major punch in the gut the first time I saw it.
It felt like everything had been for this moment, only for the moment to be a nightmare.
"well, on the bright side, we won't have to steal the land from the locals."
Isn't that a quote form the Dorian Greeks?
@Reviews. By the looks of things, that Earth must have had their own Donald Trump...and look what happened to them!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Reviews. Please say sike
@@MORE1500 Funny how everyone on the left thought Trump would bring about WW3. Instead, he was bringing about peace in the middle east. Perhaps those making predictions, should learn to shut up and learn about life and the human condition beyond what some professor who's never worked in the real world spouted off in a classroom.
Directing and acting makes the scene easy to believe, immersive and real.
Sadly I don’t think they’ll ever be another show like this!!
Well the show is being rebooted so whoever is in charge there has very huge shoes to fill.
Still a very moving scene the second time one watches it, even knowing beforehand that Earth is a frakking wasteland.
I still think this is the only flawless series I've watched. Damn!
Hehe the shock on Deanna's face is pulpable
At first I thought this was gonna be the end. " Happily ever after" type thing and it was a punch in the gut to learn the truth
I frakking miss this show..
I was heartbroken for them. It was a wonderfully acted series, and characters felt like real people.
I've still to give this show a second viewing. Absolutely loved it when it was first broadcast. Fantastic
When you got that first glimpse of the planet and it’s hidden in shadow. ...Earth. Ya. Right.
Well yes technically it is earth....though earth just means "ground" so it's just a title you would pretty much use for any planet humanity lives on, or a title like King that they pass on.
@@usul573 And technically, the planet *was* Earth (as in the formal name), just not the Earth everyone thought it was.
The music in this show is such poetry
McCreary FTW
agreed.
I did not see this coming. BSG was really good constantly surprizing its audience.
Truly a great scene to complement a show like this if only we had gotten more of this.
Where's Charlton Heston when you need him?
Well done!
Another great Sci-Fi story!
I was young, maybe 10 y/o when I saw that scene from Planet of the Apes. That was a powerful experience for a young kid.
Fake Newds : Damn dirty humans! 😎
busy with the apes at that time
Did everyone get a bombed out New York city vibe in the final scene especially with the wrecked bridge.Excellent visuals.
I love what a mindfuck this scene was when they get there and the planet's totally irradiated. The show could've even ended there and I would've been pissed, but would've respected the show for that too.
I would have paid good money for somebody to have said "Maybe we can build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?"
So they basically landed in North England and were like "FML Imma go back and take my chances with the Cylons"
I love this series. Me and my brother watched it on box sets with our dad and I'm only now catching up on it via these clips. I was a bit too young to understand the plot back then.
Same here! Your comment reminded me I still have the box sets laying around somewhere so I'll be rewatching the show very soon :)
To those who said I should rewatch it. I finished a rewatch earlier this week. :D
It did not disappoint and I'm glad that Is forgotten so much of the show only to discover it all again. All of it is great!
You can watch for free on peacock
@@GoomerNotABoomer Rewatched on BBC for free long ago
That last part was amusing because as they entered orbit all I could think was, I wonder what the background radiation is like. I remember all the mushroom clouds in the first episodes.
This was acute for me when I first saw this as a New Yorker a few yeas after 9-11, obviously the visuals evoked an image of a bombed out Manhatan and the Brooklyn Bridge broken.
I almost felt like jumping out of my seat. Great show.
This moment ensured peace I think. When they all realised the unfathomable forgotten history of the cycle.
Dualla becoming hapless and ending it was heart wrenching....
2022, and earth is almost at this point.
Jumped in and there was the station from "the 100” orbiting a nuked out shell
Wouldn't work, for Galactica had skilled writers and The 100 was just churned out to capitalize on the success of The Hunger Games: ua-cam.com/video/emF_I_Q9jNo/v-deo.html
@@blackjac5000 Tigh would have been all like "You Gods-damned kids, get off my frakin' show!"
What a glorious shot to a tragic end 0:07
wait a minute! don't send the fleet into the sun just yet
This was best gut punch every done in television history and then they follow up with dee's suicide, these were a couple brutal weeks in my life waiting on the next episode for some kind of hope.
I remember thinking they made it and then seeing it’s a wasteland what a twist to pull on our emotions like that.
Aside from the rad-count, that end scene looks alot like a Pacific Northwest beach. 11 months out of the year.
If that happened 150,000 years ago that planet must be a paradise today.
@CK Lim Japanese cities were nuke by atomic weapons not nuclear. Nuclear leave behind cesium and strontium that break down slowly over 10,000s of years. Chernobyl is not safe and has an exclusion zone around it.
The planet kobel in season 2 was recoverying nicely.
@@tammymartinez7488 It may have much larger land area, and the devastation may not have been the same type. The information about ancient Kobol and the geography of the other Earth is too sparse to make a valid comparison.
This mid-season cliffhanger was better than any of their end-of-season cliffhangers 🤔
I know the story requires Earth to be a lifeless wasteland after a nuclear attack, but after 2000 years, nature should have restored the biosphere. The soil wouldn't be radioactive after so long since the half-life of even weakly radioactive materials like Cs is 30 years. The atmosphere also has oxygen, which means that photosynthetic plankton and algae probably still exist in the ocean. With a lot of work, they could have made the Earth habitable again.
Or take a step further and they find a new species has arisen to sentience, maybe they could be either dogs or cats or maybe some of the alien races featured in the original series like the pig like Boray or the insectoid Ovions.
Love the track that is used in this scene. It's called Diaspora Oratorio.
2020: "This is Earth?! Take us back! Quickly!"
They have on M-65 field jackets on at the end of this episode. I did not realize that model had been around that long.
The TV show I miss more than all others :'(
Galactica Amazing 😊 profesor
I was half expecting to see the Statue of Liberty, Planet of the Apes style at the end.
I knew when they found "Earth" in half way point of season 4 instead of finale something will be wrong still it was such eerie and shocking scene
Last happy moment of everyone on board… 💔💔💔 … sad that Dualla and Gaeta didn’t make it.
Such gorgeous music too.
This scene and the very final scene of the series were the most surprising of the series. Well done!
This was the original 5 cylon's Earth of the 13 tribe of cylons that was destroyed.
This scene is so beautifully sad.
The human race - weary, defeated, and facing certain extinction - comes upon a blue/green planet teeming with water and abundant life, thousands of light-years from their native solar system. Wonder and joy turn to absolute disbelief, grief even, as the reality sets in that this planet, so full of hope and promise, cannot sustain life; even more devastating is the revelation that the planet fell victim to a recurring conflict of a servant race rising up against their masters.
I always get lost in the score and the camera flybys of the fleet. I feel like I, too, am in a vessel on this incredible journey. I compare it to being on a long, turbulent flight on a full plane: people from every imaginable walk-of-life bonded by the experience of being confined to a craft that’s protecting you from the forces of nature.
The scene is complemented by the detailed look of the ships against the void of space and the planet’s star. Sometimes you forget that the characters have spent the better part of the last few years on aging chunks of metal cruising through space. Children have been born and don’t know fresh air. Teens have come of age and lost their innocence. Adults, even battle hardened military personnel, are trying to make sense of their new existence.
As others have said, this scene is a punch in the gut. I can’t help but think that somewhere in our own universe, there is a human civilization searching for hope.
NegaVon it was ok I suppose
I agree completely! I love the way they wove this entire story together! And then when they finally do find Earth, the way that last episode tries it all together is simply phenomenal. This is probably the best scifi series I've ever seen, and that's saying something because I am a huge Trekkie! Lol I especially like the way it was all gritty and real life, so to speak.
And then there's what Dualla did afterwards...
@@blackjac5000 Which absolutely sucked and was totally out of character.
@@Smenkhaare Nah, it makes sense: after all the hell she'd gone through, watching her home get carpet-nuked and what few survivors were left were chased off to wander the Deep Dark, they make it to the Promised Land only to see that it too had been nuked, and she couldn't take it anymore so she checked out on a high note.
Wonderfully vicious writing!
Quark: They irradiated their own planet?
Grand Nagus: Where's the profit in it ....
Such a great show!
This was one of the sad episodes. I was afraid Starbuck was a Cylon creation for a minute there. To see a version of Earth in this shape was horrible. What a well done show. I try to watch the series yearly. I just watched it a few months ago and already itching to watch it again. Very good channel you have. I don't check in often enough.
Why does this scene still bring me tears of joy?
Some people just want to watch a world that has burned.
Long before Walking Dead and Game of Thrones were teaching us how to love characters and cry ourselves sick over watching them die horribly, BSG taught us how to have a glorious, beautiful, shimmering ray of hope and joy and watch it get pissed and shit upon like a pack of wild dogs doin' their business all over the finest Persian rug. Ah, the sweet, sweet memories. :-)
@NightRunner417 Scatological, if accurate summation of my own sense of nerd rage regarding the stupidity that was the Mitochondrial Earth conclusion to the BSG story.
*Spoilers* What I always like to think of is that line of Colonials we see walking off into the grasslands with no equipment or support. Those people are doomed by a lack of the spacecraft (power, housing, knowledge, industrial capacity, healthcare, security, food, etc.) after Adama chucked the ships into the sun. Further doomed by the deceptively beautiful, but hostile environment they are walking into. (Sabertooths still lived until about 12k years ago, for example).
Given the ancient setting, none of the Colonial knowledge seems to have survived long. Proper farming, writing, metal working, architecture, and so on seem not to be a part of our real historic record until somewhere in the last 20K years, much less the order of magnitude greater age we were given for the BSG arrival. This directly points to the 'only' thing the Colonials really bring to this Earth is that tiny bit of Human/Cylon genetic material having been subsequently passed down to the present. A sort of Kilroy was here marker engineered by the Kobol 'God' who's been pulling the strings (master of both Head Six and Head Baltar) to result in a humanity which might ultimately escape the Cycle. As for the rest of Colonial history and her people - all lost. (Perhaps a godly wager made between Zeus and another member of the pantheon about Humanity being able to break the Cycle)
Even more depressing, whereas the show hinted at the idea of Humans and Cylons being able to put aside their differences and potentially building a joint civilization, the ultimate concluding situation is one where our modern humanity will cluelessly have to face our own mind children (A.I.) as well as potentially running into those ancient Kobol era and Colonial Era Cylon civilizations that may still be around. Potentially echoing the Ship of Light beneficial aliens of the original series - if we're lucky.
My preference for the show would have been to see Humanity and the Cylons escape 'The Cycle' by joining together. Possibly becoming a variation on the Ship of Light aliens I just mentioned. Possibly largely returning to Colonial space or possibly becoming a permanently spaceborn fleet. I saw no compelling reason for the Colonials to chuck their ships in the sun, as the main antagonists of Humanity had already died. What that final battle offered up instead was a way for most of the Colonials to jointly return to their worlds and rebuild with the Cylons.
Our Earth might've had it's Adam and Eve story hook (if we must) by adapting the original series idea of Starbuck being stranded with a humaniform Cylon and starting over.
@@jasonp.1195 I'd say TLDR but you put a lot of thought into that and I did read it, and so I do respect your viewpoint and your obvious intellect. You do point out a lot of valid technical flaws with the ending. I just don't watch shows that I like for technical accuracy, because they are frankly so far and few between. Expanse is a good example of a show that gets *most* of it right, and I do adore that show, but even Expanse has plenty of technical holes in it if you're willing to look. I find personally that if I look too hard, I'll spend way too much time criticizing and hating and too little actually enjoying the experience. BSG wasn't meant to be an exposition on common sense behavior, perfect plot nor scientific accuracy. It was just plain meant to be exciting. That's the spirit I took it in, just like how I took "Lost", and so I was able to enjoy both thoroughly. I don't feel embarrassed for liking them. Rather, I feel pity for those who spend so much time and energy ripping apart fiction that they walk away with a bad experience where others that didn't take it so seriously had a good one. Entertainment _can_ be taken seriously, just not _too_ seriously.
For some perspective and a truly migraine inducing abuse of reality in a tv show, try The 100. Entertaining, yes. Logical, rational, or even remotely plausible? Oh hell no, not even close. Then compare that to BSG which at least tried to be realistic in many ways, and the whole conversation we just had seems a little pointless when there is so much worse to be had for critiquing.
@@NightRunner417 Thank you for the kind response. I do tend to get interested in the world building of stories hanging together to at least a reasonable level. Also for characters to act somewhat intelligently in reaction to their situations. With the first few seasons of "BSG or what I've seen of the excellent "Expanse", both goals seem to have been comfortably met. This being a reason I initially loved BSG so much. I'd add in another personal favorite, "Farscape", which I can't say has the strongest world building, but which does have fabulous character interactions and a solidly satisfying conclusion.
However much I loved the first seasons, with the later seasons of BSG I started seeing too much of the weakness of "Lost" style 'Mystery Box' storytelling playing out. As in a compelling 'look at this' mystery would be introduced, but the pay off to the thread often fizzled down to a "Drink more Ovaltine" bit of lameness. That or the character's motivations had become stretched out to the point they were no longer much beyond a set of habits rather than a well fleshed out characters. Baltar, for example.
As an example from BSG, I felt that having the always contentious and stubborn fleet survivors suddenly being down with throwing away all their technology in the conclusion would have been a hard 'Hell no' for at least the captains of those vessels and others who'd been building up their new hardscrabble and largely unseen lives in the fleet. Think of people who now have vulnerable young children in the fleet. We'd seen that there are some, would those parents be keen to abandon it all? Doubtful.
As for the length of my posts. Sorry, It looks kind of endless on a phone, but on a big PC screen it seems more harmless.
This would have been the actual ending of the series if the writers strike was not resolved, even though they had 3 episodes completed of season 4.5
Wouldn't the next episode have aired too? I think Ron could have at least published a book.
Would be better
If the strike was not resolved I am sure those 3 finished episodes of season 4.5 would have been released eventually, maybe not aired but they would have at least been put on the season 4 DVD set as extra bonus episodes. Then they would have finished the story in book or comic form.
Sometimes you forget, even with all that you have been through, that that same trial is happening everywhere else.
God what a soul. Crushing. Moment that would be.
One of my all time favorite shows ever.
All time best series ever!
Probably the most beautiful music ever written for a television show. Bear McCreery is a phenomenon.