The Rise of Online Animation | Fallen Titans #4
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2018
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In this episode of Fallen Titans, Quinton discusses the early animation industry, and where it went.
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Quinton Reviews you really need to check in on tomska
Put updates of your beard growth on there
Beep Beep I'm a sheep was an in joke from his weekly vlogs
Quinton Reviews Hey Quinton I heard that a Bumblebee movie is coming out
I think you might have a little bit of interest in that
U could do polls for videos for people without Twitter and provide all your scripts for reviews. Just a few ideas
I love it when dad uses 4 analogies in a row to explain why the badger mushroom song was funny
Iestyn Snaaaaaake, itsa- SNAAAAAKE! Snake snake snake it's a snaaaaaake~!
Iestyn “Dad.”
It was hilarious at the time and I still find it hilarious... but I am-and have always been-easily amused 😂
Wanna chime in to say that the later Llamas with Hats episodes are some of the best online animations I've ever seen, for the exact same reason that the fourth Laser Collection resonates with people so much. It was (edit: feels like it was) made as a protest from the creator who felt creatively stifled by his incredibly vocal fanbase; with said fanbase constantly demanding more of the same recycled and exhausted shtick.
But where LC4 went for low effort and an intentional anticlimax, LWH decided to create a high-effort descent into madness with a horribly miserable, yet very poignant ending. It was almost like he was punishing his viewers for not leaving well enough alone and by doing so, he made a bold statement about artistic integrity.
Filmcow actually did put out a statement on his site explaining the ending to Llamas With Hats, and it's actually a pretty simple explanation. So after Episode 4, Carl had set off a nuke, pinned faces to balloons, and made an endless conveyor of baby hands but it all became too predictable and there wasn't much room for escalation. Filmcow felt that the series was starting to get boring so he wanted to change things up and explore what happens to the crazy wacky one in the comedy duo when they've lost the gratification of having someone to work off of because he thought it was a funny idea. Then, he just brought it to the natural conclusion and ran with it.
So Carl has nobody to hold him back and he can just do what he wants completely unrestrained, but then after all of that, he's still lost the only person who ever cared about it so what's really left for him? Here's the main part of the actual explanation so you can read it yourself because it's legitimately interesting.
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"A few years ago I was talking about Llamas with Hats with my partner Scuffy, who never particularly liked the series. Scuffy suggested the llamas should just “blow up.” This sparked an idea for a legitimately surprising fifth episode: Paul would die, and Carl would wander the world without meaning or purpose, and eventually drown himself in a river.
I laughed every time I considered the idea. It was certainly something no one had predicted. It would be like Garfield Minus Garfield, but if Jim Davis himself actually killed off Garfield.
As time went on, the idea evolved. I decided it should take place over a longer period of episodes instead of just one. Carl’s decline into depression and loneliness should be gradual. What happens to a character who was written as part of a comedy duo when half of that duo leaves? What meaning does that character’s existence have anymore?
Episode 5 would set up the problem: Carl’s antics can’t be shocking anymore. “I think I was expecting worse” says Paul. So did people in the comments. Carl opened up a crack in space-time to collect severed baby hands, and people were not surprised.
Episode 6 set up the solution: Paul would leave. What does Costello do if Abbott leaves? How does Costello as a character even make sense anymore?
Episodes 7-12 would depict the decline. Without Paul, Carl has to make a Paul. He tries putting a Paul mask on an animal. He tries talking to himself with the mask. Eventually he hallucinates that the mask really IS Paul.
Carl continues doing what he’s supposed to do - killing people and destroying things. But the art to his work is gone. Carl does things so that Paul will react to them - without Paul he falls apart, and so does the series. It’s less funny now. The end music gets more distorted. “You must finish your work” says the mask. The mask is Carl’s delusion. Carl no longer has meaning in the world he exists in. The work that must be finished is himself.
This is all still comedy. You might not find it funny and I’m sure a lot of people won’t. But imagine talking with a friend and they mention Llamas with Hats. They haven’t seen any of the episodes beyond the fourth. Now explain to them what happens in the series after that. “Oh yeah, Paul leaves Carl and then Carl spends every episode after that getting more and more depressed before throwing himself off a bridge.” "
Now that IS very interesting. So it wasn't so much of a protest as it was a natural progression for the series. It's just startling how much the floating Paul mask seemed like a stand-in for an overly demanding fanbase, and how much Carl's gradual anger towards it felt like backlash from a tired creator, with lines like "I'm DONE, Paul! Why are you still yelling at me!?", especially if that wasn't FilmCow's intention!
+David John-Bores
Yeah. I think that the audience reaction and demand was always something on the back of his mind, though, even with it not being the real intention behind this. To quote the rest of the explanation (which means I've now put up almost all of it)
"The plan was to escalate things more and more with the final episode being the full destruction of Earth. After episode four came out, however, everyone had the fifth episode pegged. Most of the comments predicted that the fifth episode would see Carl “blowing up the Earth.” I was embarrassed that my plan for the series was that predictable. Llamas with Hats isn’t as funny if you know exactly what Carl is going to do next.
So, episode five never happened.
Llamas with Hats could have gone on forever. Like Garfield, or the Annoying Orange. Carl would do something bad and Paul would yell at him, over and over again for as long as people would watch. I could have written it well enough to satisfy most people, but it would never have had the same magic as the original episodes. The only way for Carl to continue surprising people was for him to actually do something surprising."
So I have to believe that there was a really solid idea that he was at least considering just keeping it going and giving in to the fans, but I think also that Filmcow knew that wouldn't be as interesting or get as much attention overall. So it seems super possible that he was kind-of getting at the fans without really realizing it by just doing what seemed right to him at the time.
David John-Bores
He's definitely not tired and his humour has always been black, it's just that most people only know his viral videos. He's currently making his second movie: the finale of Charlie The Unicorn.
FilmCow is actually fine now. He didn't want to make the same thing over and over, so he did whatever he wanted with it.
I knew a guy who got too drunk on a 'lads holiday' and woke up with a 'badger badger badger' tattoo
please let this be true.
Cool
Chippy I didn’t think I’d see you here
Nice to see you here Chippy!
Hi
When I was a kid, I met Dom Fera for a Film class. I asked him why Laser Collection 4 was so bad (This was before 5). He said “Sometimes you gotta make fun of yourself”.
He was just as grumpy and passive aggressive about his series as you’d imagine. Cool guy, though.
I met nostalgia critics
@@sophiaseth2769 How was he. Is he the hot sexy angel Quinton reviews built him up to be? Or is he a wet hotdog that fell off your plate and on to the street?
Oh man, as a creator who's in the current wave of "animation", I absolutely cannot wait to see your commentary on the topic.
Fantastic review as usual, keen to see the next few episodes~
It's not really animation. It's more like a slideshow.
wonder if he gonna cover animation memes
Scoutic 124 its baby steps, but if you look at the bigger story time animators, meme animators(some of them at least because there's still alot of kids in there), Basically the ones leading the change in the most popular animations right now, theyve been dramatically rising in quality, getting multiple people to work on one video, making more animation. And then you've got fandom animators, let's player animators, meme (the real kind) animators, especially furry animators man have you seen those guys?! There's like a brand new fully animated episode for a new series coming out every month.
I mean it's starting off small, especially since I believe the people leading this change are much younger and newer again, but it's becoming popular again, even youtube recognised it by featuring actual animators in their rewind. It was small, but they've never done that before. I definitely think animation is returning to this site with a very different feel, a different look, a different attitude. Its quite nice actually, I think overall people are more demanding and respecting of different skills, atmosphere and styles. I'll definitely join it and add to this rise as soon as I can finish hah, even if I want to take a "serious" route instead of complete comedy.
You are not an animator, stop boosting your ego.
Same, honestly. 'Cause the most popular stuff is honestly the polar opposite of the lolrandom animations of the early to mid 2000's. It's all storytimes and commentary. Sometimes animatics of popular podcasts. And that's all well and good (Lord knows I love watching My Brother My Brother and Me animations after a bad day), but it's a very interesting shift.
Eddsworld was like.. a defining experience for young me. Seeing something, getting super into it, and then having the creator just straight die had an insane impact with me. I was *super* into it, I had seen every episode, and I kinda just dropped it after his death. I guess it was like.. emotional pain, you know?
This was Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom for me. It's sad when a show gets cancelled due to whatever reason, it's sad when a show just ends on its own terms, but having the creator just pass away is.... it hurts..
As someone who was around when all of this was happening, it is so great to see Newgrounds and the first waves of internet animation starting to get recognition outside of the community.
Enjoyed the vid, love the Fallen Titans series!
It's crazy watching people younger than me and presumably you discovering stuff like Newgrounds from essentially an anthropological perspective. Kids who are like 16 or 17 sometimes, making videos more thoroughly researched/written/produced than any grainy webcam vlog from the 00s could have dreamed of. On the one hand it makes me sad, because younger people look at badger badger and are like lolwtf and I have to acknowledge that it's just not 'my time' anymore, but otoh I'll take the endless hours of professional content from the hundreds of channels I sub to over badger badger any day. The endless march of progress and all that.
Online animation died when UA-cam became the only viable means for animators to reach an audience, but then UA-cam pulled the rug out from under them by changing their algorithm so that only channels which upload every other day get recommended.
Dr Shaym AMEN DR SHAYM WITH YAH CHECKMARK GET IT GIRL
Dr Shaym oof
Idk about that. Animation kinda died way before all that stuff
Dr Shaym good thing I only watch good UA-camrs, that way I get good content recommended to me instead of all the clickbaity elsagate crap that gets recommended to children
Plus two minutes of animation with made from scratch art, animations, and music gets way less ad revenue as a ten minute of someone talking in front of a csmera with little to no editing.
vengeance!!!!!!!
Cas van de Pol Cas!!!!!
It is you.
Kill me
Cas van de Pol lead the charge my guy!
Cas van de Pol *cough cough OneyNG cough cough*
I feel like neglecting to mention Homestarrunner's place in online animation was a massive omission.
TROGDOR TROGDOR!
There are many paths that led to 2000s animation landscape. You could equally go at lengths to how insanely influential Don Hertzfeldt's "Rejected" was to this movement - despite not being intended as an "internet" animation, it largely predicted and influenced a lot of the tropes, atmosphere, pacing and humour that can be found in videos talked about here like ASDF series, Charlie or creations of David Firth.
Weirdly enough, Homestar Runner has less influence on it than everyone thinks.
Outside the US in a age range it had no pull or whatever.
I think people who weren't in high school or college in the early 2000's would have no idea what a homsar even is.
The hell is a homestarrunner
Enjoyed this thoroughly 👌
my two favorite people wow
:^O ITS MR QUALITY CONTENT
Ayyy it's Zulinkhy
zunky boi
“It’s like finding an 1800’s treasure map, and the location is a 1940’s missile test site” -Quinton reviews 2018 everyone
Actually the funniest thing I’ve heard all month
Film Cow actually went to my highschool haha he would send my art teacher charlie the unicorn merch sometimes
oh boy as an animator thats doing "ok" on a personal level here, cant wait to see the next ep of your analysis on the online animation genre.
Love your stuff
Hahaha yes Fallen Titans! Love this series! (halfway through the video) Oh...oh wait...
Oh hey, it’s that one guy
Ah, speak of the devil!
TODD!
OH HI
My stomach was making the rumblies...
That only dead careers could satisfy.
Caaaaaarl
That intro, we got production value BOYS
RIP Egoraptor and OneyNG channels. Your animations will be missed.
Nut
Oney’s let’s plays more than make up for it
Don't forget Game Grumps Udun!
Hey look, it's this guy.
Justin Y. I’m not a fan of Game Grumps, but more power to you
"Entirely because of Newgrounds, many iconic early animations that existed online can be enjoyed in 1080p as if they were created yesterday."
No, this is because Newgrounds allowed animators to upload flash files that used vector art (which has infinite resolution); the reason that you view them as videos today is that the people on Newgrounds developed a tool to convert those older flash animations into other video formats; people who uploaded videos probably were not uploading huge video files very often, because their connections were poor when compared to today's speeds.
Sadly with flash being unsupported by adobe come 2020, many animators probably won't be uploading their works in swf files to Newgrounds so more recent works won't be able to be converted into a better video format.
No, they're still videos. Some, as he said, blurred the line, but something like Metal Gear Awesome has the same functionality as a DVD menu.
Charlie the Unicorn is my go-to example of how humor can change. I remember laughing my ass off to it in college and quoting it all the time. Then, years later I tried rewatching it and I didn't find a single thing funny about it. Which I guess is funny in itself.
This one just makes me sad, because I loved Newgrounds growing up and to see both it and web animation lose relevance it gives me a special feeling of melancholy
My guess whats in the next video:
-Storytime Animators
-The rise of Jaiden and OddOnesOut
-Very cashgrabby or god awful "copycats"
-Some Animatic focused channels (not to be confused with Animation)
-Some Animations channels that are still alive but not really active because youtube is not their main source of income (crossing my fingers for: SamBakza and MysteryBen)
I really appreciate how you tackled animation in youtube as I aspired to be one without becoming a storytime channel (but I know its rather ambitious and impossible and Im just aiming to be a web comicer now)
God I hate storytime channels, including Odd1 and Jaiden
Uncolored, boring, fake stories that rack in kids by the millions.
Micro Bihon What about Animation Memes
UA-cam watch minutes killed animation and made animatics popular.
ShockMouths those damn reply girls 😭
It's sad 'cause it's true. :'(
RIP UA-cam animations.
ShockMouths. *thinks about it* ...you're right
its sad. I miss real animation and not just easy slideshow animation that is really easy. I wont say names but there are so much youtube animators who act like the job is hard when it literally takes as much skill to create as a grade a under a video.
devlleo exactly
You spoke about the brilliant Eddsworld, but neglected to mention that Tomska worked on that before the asdf movie series was even made...
I kind of think things like asdf is a right of passage. I loved it when I was a kid, and I see kids today discovering it and loving it just as much. Even if I don't find it funny today, the fact that I once did and people still do leads me to think that its still good, in a sense, just for a certain audience of children whose brains are eager to explore the different corners of comedy, starting with random absurdity.
moviemakers will always be my favorite eddsworld episode ^^
Spares was a classic.
No, Fun Dead for the win!
bocodamondo Moving Targets is my favorite, introduced me to the Drop Kick Murphy’s as well.
That filming sequence is honestly one of my favourite moments in Eddsworld
My all-time favorite will always be 25ft Under the Seat.
If I ever had to introduce Eddsworld to someone. I'd go with Hammer and Fail.
Dude, Filmcow wasn't just depressing. He was aggressive, both passively and aggressively. With Llamas With Hats, people kept demanding more and kept being annoying with the CAAARL meme. So those last episodes with the mask were supposed to represent him. The mask represented his fans, constantly asking for more while at the same time being insanely annoying, loudly repeating CAAARRLLLL as many times as possible to make us just as sick of it as he is. As for Charlie the Unicorn, after he officially ended it, people got so angry at him that they started telling him that their ideas are better. They kept "suggesting" things for the "next" episode of Charlie. So he told his fans that the next episodes will be fan-suggested, everything will be from the fans. So he made Charlie Teh Unicron to point out how ridiculous and stupid those suggestions were, and how done he is with Charlie. A quote from my friend kinda runs parallel to this whole thing. "A Joke is like an Onion. You have to peel back the layers until it makes you cry"
Edd being taken by cancer fucking wrecked me. Even though I did not in any way, shape or form know the guy, I really felt like I did due to his animations that, as you said, were based on his real life and real friends. Used to spend hours at a time watching EddsWorld animations video by video. Over time, the comedy has definitely been lost, but the memories of laughing always bring a smile to my face whenever I stumble across one of his videos online. Rest in piece, and thanks for helping to shape me into who I am today.
My favorite animator, FilmCow, barely gets money from all of the hard work he does :( So please, come over to his channel every nite to watch him stream play old video games! It's super funny! The Valley awaits you.
I didn't know he streamed
Yes, tonight is Chrono Trigger night. Sarcasm and nervous laughter awaits you.
Akios! 😀
To find his stream just follow the magic liopleurodons. They’ll show you the waaaaaayyyyyy.
To be fair, he has spent the last year or so making a movie. That kind of naturally means he isn't able to make more consistent vids until it's done, ergo less money. That being said when the movie gets released he's likely to get a huge wave of people checking out his stuff and signing onto his Patreon.
Can we please discuss “The Cloak” by film cow at length?
It's scary how often I think about "delicious crab meat."
Green Man thought I was the only one that remembered that one
*Phone rings
Cloak: meet me at the pier at midnight and we'll stare out of the ocean one last time.
*hangs up
Robert Mitchum: what?
Cloak: what do you mean "what"?
Robert Mitchum: I mean WHAT!
$6.99 FOR A VALUE MEAL $6.99 FOR A VALUE MEAL
Ah the tides of march. Or was it the tides of autumn
I'm incredibly happy to see a popular modern creator speak fondly of Eddsworld. It doesn't get enough credit for how clever and funny it was and honestly still IS to this day, despite how old it is, it's aged well in my opinion (despite some of the older episodes limited animation.) It was probably my absolute favorite UA-cam animated series growing up, and Edd Gould (May he rest in peace) is easily one of my favorite content creators of all time.
You've always been a man I respected Quinton, and this only furthers that respect.
What about "Salad Fingers", imo it was one of the most mind boggling animations to exist on the internet.
I think we've fouund where Pew news REALLY comes from
I miss kitty0706's gmod animations. Those were the glory days.
WeegeeSlayer I can state with complete certainty that I still like them, even after all this time (5 years I believe). And I not only like them, I like and appreciate them for their animation. Maybe not all the jokes are great but they at least look interesting
kitty0706 | Fallen Titans #31
He died. The end.
Rando T. they still exist
Stefan SEKTA !11 But they're uploaded less frequently.
WeegeeSlayer Team Fabulous 2 was my shit
12:54 Season 5 of Bojack Horseman looking great
Nah that’s this one ua-cam.com/video/kD62d9XhHxY/v-deo.html
When I was younger I recall watching stickfigure Pivot animations on youtube, commonly the Stickfigure on Crack series and many more. Stick animation even had a website called the stickpage. Now, modern stickfigure animation has evolved and currently Hyun's Dojo is the only youtube channel with stick animations from many creators.
This doesn't smell enough like Egoraptor
I hope you will bring TomSka up again im a later installment because it's always sad when people gloss over his other animation work (like Crash Zoom or his work on EddsWorld) amd his real life skits. Or on how his mental health interacted with asdfmovie.
That billboard analogy is how I will forever explain what a meme is
ASDF has some jokes that hold up in my opinion, like the bomb joke. That one’s actually pretty funny.
I agree honestly.
Kyro yeah I feel like asdf has always been a mixed bag, but by that same token there are some jokes from each one that hold up.
Lumping *all* non-sequitur into 'lolssorandom' is really reductive.
yeah, that's why he used that as an example of a good joke in the series.
Everyday I walked home from school with this girl and she told me about Salad Fingers and I was hooked. David Firth was my introduction to newgrounds and internet animation. Shit is so good and inspiring, still love the mans work.
Film cow is still making animations and stuff, you know. Hes even been talking about the Charlie finale on his nightly streams.
im loving your channel, each of your videos are well thought out and presented and you can tell you put a bunch of time into and i can tell its just gonna get better!
The thing with ASDF movie "selling out" is that tomska is a business man. He knows what will work and how to capitalize on them. ASDF is his most popular series and he uses the revenue from them to fund non-asdf projects, like his live action sketches and other animations. So he may have sold out but it has given him the opportunities to do more.
that intro is great
thank you for making that small, really short initial part of the commercial at the start of the video and leaving the bulk of it for the end. For some reason I found it a nice little touch to the video.
It's kind of amazing to think about the fact that this channel started off making pretty well organized reviews and discussion videos once upon a time, and after making, perhaps one drama video with a similarly intelligent approach (that being the leafy redeeming video), your channel suddenly began to appear frequently. Your videos got much more attention and got funnier as well, you tackled some new ideas and had a lot of fun with them, and now you're making what i would consider to be the equivalent to a series of nostalgic documentaries on many of the big icons of youtube, and their ways of impacting not only the sight, but the world.
I'm really glad i subscribed to this channel and it's slowly growing to be my #1 favorite channel on youtube now.
They should remake Charlie the Unicorn with Will Arnett or H. John Benjamin as Charlie.
its getting a movie... eventually.
I hope the wreck it Ralph sequel pays some respect to newgrounds.
Papa Grande shook, cuz ain't no such thing as halfway crooks
you are growing so much and i love seeing my favorite youtuber do so well!
All of your videos are so well put together and never fail to interest me! Truly my favorite UA-camr keep up the amazing work
I knew the animators video was coming and that newgrounds even though is a different site was part of the fallen giants of youtube.On another note Edd's death was followed by one of the weirdest feeling. It was the first and maybe only popular person i cared that he died at such young age. But he wasn't popular enough for real world to care but i felt that every other creator that mentioned it was a friend and that we lost one of our friends even though we didn't know each other. It was the closest i felt to people i didn't knew about the loss of another person we didn't knew.... Also don't call poor Tom a sell out....
He realaly died? I thought Quinton said that the character died not the creator, damm that's ... how did he died or why?
Leukemia! Most likely Quinton knew since Tomska was also part of Eddsworld. He did the right thing though not to dwell on "drama" like i did!
>Points out that Tomska sold out
>Sells out
For reals though I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to make money and asdf movie evolved more than you gave it credit for I'd say.
sponsorship is selling out? shouting out squarespace in a video for 20 seconds is disregarding any and all creative vision for monetary gain? nah
You realize that more than one person involved can sell out, right?
yeah, i'd say he was quite harsh with ASDF movie
I get that he couldn't find anything of comedic-value in it by himself, since "what makes me laugh" is the most subjective thing ever, even more than "what makes me scared"
But i found quinton to be quite harsh with it, especially since ASDF movie comedic-value is quite obvious
ASDF movies comedic-values are their twists and the subversion of expectations with absurdes situations
Yes it's not the smartest form of comedy, but it works well if only once in a while, it makes you laugh because of how goofy and surprising it can be
Getting paid is different to selling out. Selling out involves letting your content standards slip. You can see the love Tomska has for his live action work, whereas the ASDF animations are just a product to get funding.
@@Demiglitch i think a lot of asdf movie can be quite funny when it's not just LOL RANDOM, i remember when i watched beep beep i'm a sheep and just hating it because it's a garbage joke and was sad when other people seemed to like it but some other jokes in that video are good
this is so nostalgic for me, being as these flash animations were basically my introduction to the internet as a really young child. I'm curious however as to how the ever so popular stick fight animations fit into this, as I know the full rise and fall of that community was extremely interesting, and haven't really looked hard enough to see how it all fell apart. Great video as usual, excited for part two.
This was a really great video, took me on a weird nostalgia trip of content I used that to really enjoy when I was younger.
God seeing that lazer collection clip made my eyes water
I feel like you are missing a lot of Animation history here. I get the scope of the video is not big enough to cover it all, but mentioning 4 animation series, while there are many other iconic series and animators is doing a disservice to a lot of the culture. Where's the OneyNG? RageNinteen? Harry Partridge? I saw Alan Becker's Animator vs Animation for a segment, why not mention him? There is a lot more to discuss when it comes to the rise of animations on the Internet, and I guess I expected more talk about how and why animation became titans on the Internet.
You said it yourself, there wasn't enough time to cover *everything*, so Quinton had to cover the ones that were arguably the most popular, and the ones that really paved Internet animation into a "Golden Age".
I still would of liked to see how these animations led to the growth of the animation industry.
Furcas Oh well.
As someone who specializes in animation mainly, I highly appreciated this look back in time. A lot of these short films (Particularly The Laser Collections back in the day) inspired me to try my hand at animating.
Really like your new intro to fallen titans!
Great episode Quinton, keep it up!
Oh jeez, the Lazer Collection, I remember that! That was what 2012 me watched all the time. Ah memories, they weren't that great, but its kind of nostalgic for me.
I mean I'm not saying they're bad, I still enjoy them a lot. But they're no longer the pinnacle of comedy that I thought they were
Does College Humor count as a Fallen Titan? Feel like that could be an interesting channel to look at. Or not...
Gumshoe Gamer they've evolved into a sort of BuzzFeed-lite, but they're still incredibly popular
Jaime Nufio well nostalgia critic is still pretty popular, and he did a video on him
Yeah a lot of their older skits still stand the test of time and every so often I re-watch some of them and can still laugh at it, nowadays it feels like their videos are just one joke they thought of and just ran it into the ground, "that person that does X" or "that guy that does Y", maybe a list or how about this quirky situation you may or may not have found yourself into! It's just not the same anymore, and I guess part of the reason why is that they had a lot of talented people before that just left or moved on to write for SNL or talk shows or just do their own stuff
Gumshoe Gamer they’re shit
I think collegehumour is really good. They had a rough period after all their good players quickly pulled out, but Grant, Zach, Katy, Siobhan etc. Are really funny and there skits began to pick up again about a year ago.
I still don't think they're buzzfeed esque, they aren't PC or SJW and they only produce skits.
wow. this video actually makes a whole lot of sense. the way you described the nature of viral videos really kinda made it finally make more sense to me. the highway analogy made a lot of sense
Strange you didn’t mention TomSka was heavily involved with EddsWorld.
Hes not an animator
Not strange at all
And Edd was the "I like trains" kid from asdf.
Oh hey Quinton, a new upload. Love you man, keep up the great work.
Oh shit! I was just watching the 3rd episode on Channel Awesome again as you uploaded this. What a surprise
I loved the video. Having people talk seriously about these things that inspired artists today is wonderful. Love the channel. And here’s to the new wave of online animation!
Loving this series so far and visiting that web site gave me a sensible chuckle
I love this series because when most of these internet entity's existed, i was just a tad bit too young to know about it, but olde enough to remember them being referenced. Its like watching a history lesson about a childhood adjacent to my own
I still think most of the asdfmovies hold up pretty well after all of these years, and I think they're smarter than they get credit for. I don't mean that they're making some grand philosophical statement or anything, just that they're generally very tight and well-constructed and paced jokes that are all able to land their punchlines succinctly.
I really enjoyed this video. It was informative and I am looking forward to the next episode. Please keep going and have a good day.
4:10 There was this billboard on the road to my grandparent's home that has the poster of a clone trooper from SW Ep3 and it stayed there from before the movie was premiered, until around 2010.
At least oney and egoraptor still upload some animation
...oh
At least Oney still makes quality content
Flame of Udun true
Flame of Udun
Oneyplays is honestly the god of gameplay channels.
Only people from British are going to understand this comment.
MainframeCPU have a boy for that comment
Filmcow has, uh, already stated that he didn't intend LWH to be a "statement..."
He lied. You can tell he was getting sick of his audiences incessant memeing and demanding that me make more Llamas With Hats, or Charlie The Unicorn, or any other animation thing that was somewhat funny.
That's interesting! And, not to get too highbrow, but it's also mostly irrelevant when it comes to analyzing the content.
It's like Tolkien saying that the Lord of the rings had nothing to do with WW1. He didn't intend it, but Lord of the rings has a lot of parallels with WW1.
When analyzing a work of media, it's sometimes better to ignore the author, to see what message you can find in it when you'r viewpoint isn't filtered through the viewpoint of the author.
Well, then he's clearly tolling people because it clearly was.
Art will always say something about the people creating it, regardless of their intent.
It's impossible to remove all traces of yourself from something you've created, even if you're doing something "practical" like building a shed or painting a deck.
@@Mooseplatoon That explains why my shed keeps falling apart ;)
our boy quinton going places, big man loving your work recently, you keep getting better and better. Big things for this dude I can feel it.
I love a well researched retrospective. You have a very clear voice Quinton, I love your videos.
Egofaptor
Braden Sakpipslät WOW, FUCKING EGORAPTOR MUCH?!?!?!
That dude probably really influenced Odd1sout, considering his videos look and sound exactly like Arin's Sequalitus videos.
Egoraptor would’ve had change for a $20!
i think beep beep i'm a sheep being monetised immediately is a better joke than the joke itself.
and i saw it in last week in its original form.
I found a furry version of it and thought that that was the original... I think the furry version has more value if I'm being honest.
yeah, tomska himself has said he hated the joke because he botched the delivery and the song was repetitive as fuck.
plus just more design work in the furry animation.
Hooded Man *better* version*
Thank you, thank you so much! I requested a video on Eddsworld a while back & you brought something unexpected to the table, a walk down memory lane. Some of these animations I forgot existed until watching this & it was great being reminded of them. Of course I never forgot about Eddsworld, Tomska, & Secret Agent Bob, even though I popularized Eddsworld at my high school, Filmcow stuff was always being talked about but as for Tomska, I didn't really hear much about asdfmovie until like 2013, I was still sore about Edd's death & when I got exposed to asdfmovie, it made me happy because it reminded me of the Tom's Tales series, Tom's Tales of Awesome was the third Eddsworld cartoon I saw & that's when I officially decided that I was hooked. Holy crap man, is that a chair? Dunno why the chair thing tickled my funny bone so much but it did.
Rewinding back to about 2007, 2008-ish, this is when I took Career Ed in high school & somehow passed it, guess my love for writing essays really came through during the final (big surprise seeing the length of my usual comments lol), but what did I do for most of the class? One kid that was always up to date on the latest UA-cam animations had them downloaded onto his iPod so we sat in the back corner & watched them. That's how I got exposed to stuff like Charlie the Unicorn, I could stay in the loop with casual conversations on the topic which was commonly brought up. One series he had on his iPod that I noticed you didn't mention is Happy Tree Friends. Yeah, I have a very dark sense of humor & at the time found it funny, today I just can't look at that series again. My sense of humor is still dark, I just find that shows such as Action League Now does the whole mutilating thing so much better. Maybe that's just me. I won't get into asking why that was leftout knowing there's a part two but I remember some sort of lawsuit or something happening in the past regarding that series, my memory is super fuzzy on the details or it at all, I just remember there was a whole copyright issue going around on that one & it even resulted in a video that joked/commented on the fact. I get it if that's why Happy Tree Friends is avoided & while it's an interesting topic for discussion, especially that I forgot nearly everything about it & would love a refresher, I'm totally fine if the topic is avoided for a reason such as that.
Again, thank you for this, love the video, love reliving those memories, even though I did cringe a bit at some of them, like seriously, EVERYONE at school quoted that badger thing & I had never seen the video until years later so I was confused as to why people thought it was funny. The video cleared nothing up. A heavy amount of what I watched in career ed was Happy Tree Friends & when it wasn't, it was usually Charlie the Unicorn or something else from Secret Agent Bob but that kid did quote the badger video a lot.
I actually didn't frequently use UA-cam until 2007, I went there on occasion but ever since coming across my first UA-cam poop, I was cautious of treading the website. Eddsworld is what pushed me to use UA-cam, I discovered it on Newgrounds, found out about the website & mostly watched his videos there, but also followed his UA-cam channel because I discovered I could send Edd messages on UA-cam & he always responded, he was such an amazing person to actually read through my super long messages & respond. It's what got me exploring UA-cam on my own, I'm sad I can no longer access my old account again & possibly look back at some of my old favorites & rewatch them, this video made me wish to revisit some old animated stuff on UA-cam & I did find some weird & obscure stuff. There's also stuff I voiced in but minor things on videos that only got a couple hundred views. I miss the old days of Internet animations but hope for some new ones. I look forward to seeing what movieunleashers has in store for example, he's dark but dark & comedy go so great together.
I remember being super into Dom Fera's live action works at the time too. I remember that Billy Goat movie being something I absolutely loved, since I too was a teenager who wanted to make movies, and here was one who was actually doing it.
“Turned to dust”?
Sounds like it couldn’t escape the wrath of Thanos. Oh well, it’ll return in Avengers 4.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE REFERENCE
Film cow I don't feel so good
I feel as if the clip in ‘LWH’ is a (not so) subtle metaphor for the way that fans of the creator would constantly ask for more and more of the same content, despite the fact that Filmcow may have felt that it was already a dead horse that he would only continue to kick with more installments. The line “there’s nothing left. It’s all gone” followed by “you must continue your work” seems like a fitting dialogue between a creator who finished his project and fans who demand for more.
At least, that was my speculation after watching the series.
Solid introduction, your content is really on point.
I think it takes a brave man to chide ASDF for having merch while plugging a sponsor.
-- a salty ASDF fan who still likes your stuff, Quinton
I found ASDF Movie by typing "asdfgh" and picking the first video that came up. it was interesting hearing someone say "AsDiff"
Animation is not a genre, it's a medium or method (depending on context).
lolrandom was really the genre tbh
But it's a genre of UA-cam videos with its own aesthetic
I'm stunned that there was no mention of Homestar Runner. Such a classic. Anyway, terrific stuff as always, Quinton! Keep it up!
I watched a lot of that early internet animation in high school computer lab, I’m not sure if it was blocked or we didn’t know about but we got our flash content from flash world. I’m over 30 now but a few years ago I rewatch the asdf movies and was still entertained, maybe because it was like a song I could sing along too.
Filmcow’s videos that weren’t turned into a series tend to still be some of my favorites
Looking forward to part two (Or number 5)! My betting is the subject's gonna be the animated story-times like Odd1sout or JaidenAnimations.
Congrats on the website!
Since I'm still learning how to animate since last August, I'm really looking forward to see your comment on the 2012 of animation on youtube and the current wave. Take your time researching on them one at a time. :)
Talking about online animation and you don't talk about Homestar need???
Jonathan Nixon Homestar was so good they got hired by Disney
Genuinely surprised you don’t have more subscribers, your content is great and well made.
UA-camrs like you make me stay on youtube man...thank you for create real quality content ,,keep this series on , its amazing.
Its like a trip through my childhood again. I loved the Lazer Collection as a kid. I watched them again not too long ago and I can see why I liked it.
No mention of The Demented Cartoon movie by Brian Kendall? It predated either of those three series and was a pretty big inspiration for a lot of these animators I'm sure.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention egoraptor in this video. He is one of the paragons of animation for me, in a way reintroducing me to UA-cam as a pre teen/ young adult after a hiatus from my childhood with things like the lazer collection or Charlie the unicorn. It’s a shame he all but abandoned his channel in favor of game grumps, which is a channel I enjoy quite a bit, but there’s something about his animations on his channel, the charm he had in his sequelitus videos that really can’t be found a lot of other places. I imagine you’re going to at least give a passing mention to him in part 2, but I would still be interested to know why if you didn’t, if you don’t.
chris burns he's next with oney. Trust me.
chris burns
Even if not explicitly mentioned Metal Gear Awesome clip was shown at the start of the video
I guess he'll be more featured in the "fall" as it isn't really an analysis of his style, he was one of the titans, but for a historical piece the prominent part was when these titans started losing money for more time given, and moved on to things like video games in order to make a living. This will all be covered in part 2
bloopers and forums sound pretty good, man.
maybe future video suggestions? polls?
Can’t wait for the next video!