Brass Playing and Cheek Puffing
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- In this video I talk about brass playing and puffing out one's cheeks.
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I love the way he cracks jokes with a completely straight face
Quinn Gardner I have noticed that in a lot of his videos. it's really hilarious. 😂😂😂
That's just british humour for ya.
@@tatertodd31 exactly
@@delarodarichard british? quite sure he was born in new zealand.
That percussion rule is absolutely correct.
wwemario12345 It’s so true but we can’t get around it 😤
wwemario12345 it is not true I am a percussionist and me and the other percussionist are simply there to drive the rhythm we get told off by our conductor if we play to loud
I don't get the percussion role sorry I'm a noob 😕
I love how you are just so nonchalantly sarcastic like you seem like you are legitimately telling the truth
"I don't give a flying toss" - awesome.
When you're just starting and don't know your instrument well, I think puffing often leads to loss of control and poorer tone quality, which is why school band directors tend to frown upon it. However, as you become experienced and start to know what you're doing, it can be a useful tool to have. It's not always bad, but it can be. Depends on the player.
Same for saxophone and a similar rule band directors teach about tucking your lip vs untucked
As a tuba player I agree with this
I am a beginning band director and this issue tends to resolve itself with trumpet players. I have one who can’t seem to stop and has more difficulty with his pitches and with a blasty sound. Looking for solutions.
I find that when I play high notes on trumpet, sometimes a small pocket of air will inflate in one or both of my cheeks (it's a very defined area, not the entire cheek). I think that's just due to lack of strength in my face muscles. Either way, it doesn't affect my playing. Great video!
Same for me, however I play trombone. the section of cheek that "inflates" is closer to the top place beside my nose section of my cheek. It feels weird and only happens when I've been playing for awhile and my chops are tired.
GOODzilla same, probably because I just started playing trumpet.
+Ginger Hitchcock +GOODzilla Lip slurs, folks, lip slurs. the more you do, the stronger your lips become. Also, long tones do wonders for tone.
I know this comment is old, but hey, long time no see lol
I'm having the same exact issue and I see that people are saying lip slurs help, which would seem reasonable because I haven't done loads of them... It happens for me for notes above high G and playing them for more than like 3 bars. I guess lip slurs it is...
rip bass trombone
the happy memories
* contrabass
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*contrabass
1:08 - Sex-often-ist... ROFLMAO.
I was about to give this comment a like, but then I saw the number of likes it had, and I thought...."I'll write a comment instead"
Its stayed at the same amount of likes
Ive recently discovered that when slightly puffing the upper part of my cheeks while also lip curling in, it has increased my range about 2 more tones to a double g. I can even go higher than that which is a surprise to me, but then again. Everyone's mouth is formed differently.
As a general rule of thumb, (as a tubist) I try not to puff at all, or very minimally, until I hit the low F (4 ledger lines down) and below. I find that it improves my sound a lot, as puffing can greatly affect the embouchure and aperture, making it more of a puckered shape instead of the more preferable oblong shape. With that sort of buzz, it tends to make more of a sloppy, pinched, forced sound, at least for me, so I try to keep my cheeks flat at all times, as most of the trombones do here, save third seat: ua-cam.com/video/jpngMjN6fmQ/v-deo.html
When I was learning, I was told it was imperative to avoid puffing one's cheeks out to avoid bursting blood vessels in the cheeks. As a child, I used to play with a lad who played soprano cornet used to puff out his cheeks. If he was picked up for it he would stop but he always went back to doing it within a few minutes, but nonetheless, he was a very good musician.
Dizzy simply stored jazz in his cheeks for winter.
Glad you made this video, i can always point out a young player when they say never puff your cheeks. Puffing your cheeks means your playing relaxed. It doesnt matter if you do it or not because the only thing that matters is the result. Band directors who teach not to puff as if it was absolutely wrong are band directors that never attained a very high level of playing themselves.
Tom Mcgrady I think thats why my middle school teacher sucked because i always puff my cheeks and done much harder pieces than ecpected, like playing "Beautiful Colorado" on euphonium in 9th grade.
My first band director said it was about skill and sound not aesthetics
I puff out the cheeks when I hit some note on the trumpet moving from higher to lower note because that takes more force of air to keep the notes full.
I actually practice both ways (puffed and not puffed) because I'm working on circular breathing and it's actually not much different as far as tone and technique.
This is sooooo true!!!!!!!! I play tuba and keeping the cheeks in and lips tight hinders my sound and gets in the way of good resonance. I get a much better tone much more resonance and I’m fully relaxed when my cheeks puff .
Trombone Shorty puffs his left cheek out really far when playing, and he still sounds amazing whether trombone or trumpet
DeeJay Rhodes we don’t care about him in these parts of the world
In Europe and Oceania he’s basically unheard of lmao
We dont really care about him
@@bun-bun5623 I don’t even know who you are
I agree so damn much with this. Brass playing for me isn't a visual art, it's sound that matters. If you need to play upside down with your elbows in a bowl of trifle then you do that. If you feel comfortable and enjoy your craft, ideally if others enjoy it too, then it's valid.
What a clear and logical explanation. As to Dizzy Gillespi: He, like many early jazz greats, was pretty much self-taught. He listened to other players, and figured out how to get the sound he wanted. He, to the best of my knowledge, didn't have the benefit of Julliard , Curtis or any other conservatory. and probably did not have any formal lessons.
you're great Trent keep doing you dude
You've put it right in the middle, man !!! Great talk !
I've always thought about this, thanks trent!
Thanks for sharing your opinion in this video.
I think it's very normal and common to puff your cheeks playing low notes on big brass instruments, because your air stream grows and you are prone to relax your cheeks muscles.
My teacher told me that in this way, the air is not directed right into the instrument, and you lose power/volume in the note.
A useful tip I get was to briefly (2-5 mm) open my lips in pedal notes, so that the mouthpiece fits better to the mouth shape.
I forced myself doing this, because it was a "brass rule".
In the beginning it was very hard to find the lower note, I only hit that note when descending from a scale. After a short time it was easier and easier.
Maybe sometimes our mind is the bigger obstacle against lower notes. Our minds reflects our singing register and going below 50 hertz becomes more difficult.
I generally find it extremely easy to maintain tight cheeks when playing even very low instruments, but it does often become nessesary to puff when hitting low notes, as the lsrger airstream actually strengthens the note.
I think there should be a rule on UA-cam that states if you criticize someone's playing you have to back it up with a video. I have had people critique some of my videos and i look at their channels to find absolutely nothing of them playing or if they are playing something I feel sad for them. Good video.
I love it when this DUDE makes jokes
I realize this video is old, but anyway... As a Didgeridoo player, cheek puffing is crucial. Circular breathing will usually be mixed with humming and growling all at once while moving your tongue back and forth for vowel sounds. It takes a lot of airflow to play the didge.
Thanks. I have been wondering about that.
I knew a kid learning the cornet who was a bit puffy. Nobody really told him he was doing any wrong, or nobody wanted to tell him he was doing wrong, but he sure did sound wrong, which probably wouldn't have been fixable with cheeks alone.
Honestly, looking back at this video again, there is one thing that's a literally interesting that I would like to Discuss/talk about. The "less of your aperature vibrating for high notes" is a great starting technique at the beginning of one's journey to the upper register. However, If you want to get the note to the back of the hall in which you are playing, it does not apply as much. You need to let your aperature actually widen when you go up high as a trumpet player who is looking for high notes that are usable in any setting bigger than a 30ftx30ft room. This is confirmed by Wayne Bergeron in one of his master classes on UA-cam. Getting back to the point, generally, opening up the aperature makes for a bigger sound, but takes more compression to create the notes. So, when one's chops are nearing death, generally at the end of a rehearsal, trumpet player's will require another form of compression. And generally, puffing one's cheeks is that last resort form of compression for trumpet players. I hope that kind of explains in depth why most trumpet players, end up puffing their cheeks at some point or another in their career, especially if they are playing some difficult passages continually in the upper register.
I puffed my cheeks out for my first 2 yrs playing Tenor Trombone (played 1st Trb in 6th gr).
I mean for tuba it’s often advised to slightly puff your cheeks because it needs a lot of air, especially with low notes
I started on trumpet in middle school puffing my checks and I didn’t necessary have any problems with it nor with my band teachers. However, as I moved to my junior year in high school, I had problems playing with my cheeks when I had transitioned to trombone. My cousin who plays the saxophone in church with me has teased and mocked my playing with cheeks out.
It always kind of felt like there was more volume of air needed in the mouth to produce a solid low tone, for me anyway. A pedal Bb feels more embodied when I use as much space in my mouth as possible. I never looked at the whole cheek puffing thing the way Trent did. This does answer a few of my questions.
Your videos are freaking amazing -- keep up the good work! Do you happen to know whether anyone has tried 3D printing a bass horn mouthpiece with the face-shaped curvature that you mentioned?
I understand where you are coming with the sealing in your lips to the mouthpiece, but I have found that if i drop my jaw more than normal and that allows me reach lower notes with more tonal accuracy. Then again That works for me and may not work for all.
I find that playing high notes on my trumpet is easier when I puff my checks , however I'm trying to fix this, solely because people tell me it's wrong
Do what's best for you: it's not other people's jobs to tell you what to do and good luck. :)
My lower register and tone is much better when I puff my cheeks. It automatically goes away when I ascend though (the cheek puffing). I get a much warmer and more pleasant sound.
I know a guy who puffed out only his left cheek, one of the best players in the state, in fact
I'm a french horn player and when I play on horn or mellophone I tend to puff cheeks and lips when playing higher I did when I was a trumpet player and I still do cause its best for my tone overall
As a part time percussionist, I can say that your absolute rule is 100 percent correct. Also, I have to puff my cheeks when playing pedal notes on my tenner trombone. I've tried doing it without puffing, but it doesn't work.
I am one of those people, and I find that when I play high notes I need to build a lot of pressure in my mouth to be able to play these notes, which I can nicely, it just feels like I could make it easier if I raised up on my lips, but idk how to
Have you by any chance seen the Getzen Deluxe mouthpiece? I play on one myself because I play with my upper lip mostly on the rim of the mouthpiece and the Getzen Deluxe has a thinner rim than most other types. Could you by any chance find out the cup size because I've been looking everywhere to find out and haven't seen a thing.
Sometimes when I'm trying to play Bb2 or lower, it kinda makes my cheeks puff. This is my euph I'm talking about. Like, is playing pedal notes even useful at all? I can play as low as A0 when I'm hitting my pedal range.
The Lazy Jolteon I'm playing a solo right now where I play pedal Bb on tenor trombone so there's a use.
when I'm playing mellophone in corps, I sometimes puff the corners of my upper lip right above my canine teeth when I'm playing very high notes like high C and upwards, mostly because it helps me with the stability of my embrasure.
I'm a trumpet player and I puff my cheeks about half an inch out because I find that when hitting high notes I have to have tight corners and a loose embouchure and puffing my cheeks towards the back helps pull my lips tighter so I don't leak air
I've always been told it was bad to puff out your cheeks and can avoid it when playing tuba, but notice I puff a lot when playing trombone. I feel like it's partly because of how small the mouthpiece is as it especially occurs when playing lower notes while only a small portion of my lips are needed for the higher octaves.
To play low notes, the embouchure has to be relaxed. It's very unnatural to tighten up the cheek muscles to prevent them from puffing out AND relax the embouchure at the same time. The bottom line is, if it works, don't try to fix it just to be a conformist.
I need help. I also get a more full sound when I puff my cheeks. The issue is that it hinders my double tonguing and consistency in hitting notes at times. But the sound is very big and I can also play higher easier than if I was to not puff. I need help in picking something because I keep going back and forth and I'm not sure what to stick with. Please help!!!
I have an over bite, I wonder if that makes it that way?
Very interesting take (not being sarcastic). Interested to hear your thoughts on the role of facial hair nearby the lips for brass players, especially for larger mouthpieces. Do you believe it disadvantages or hinders your playing, in a way that shaved skin would be preferable?
Have you seen any of the wedge mouthpieces? they have a curved rim to them, it's pretty interesting
+afdsadf 147852369 Yeah, they look interesting. Very expensive though!
I'd been told not to in school bands for years. (I could be punished for doing so. I was playing tuba.) However, later on when I was stuck, I sectetly puffed them and it opened the door for the new kind of comfort.
I don't puff that often now but it certainly helped me get better: Asvhe says, brass instruments doesn't have much absolute rules. And perhaps that also means one should try out as many styles as you are interested in. School band text can be evil.
I puff only one of my cheeks and I can’t play at all sometimes. When I try to unpuff the cheek, my lips tighten up and I can’t play.
i find it more comfortable to puff my cheeks for higher notes, (im still grade 2.5) but not the lower notes.
however, it sounds worse. should i prioritize compatibility or my sound
I've been told since I started playing that I should not puff my cheeks out. When I then wanted to learn circular breathing I had a problem, I simply cant get a clear note out while puffing out my cheeks
In my school band my teacher says not to puff your cheeks...but like your video says it's not the same for everyone.
I play the trumpet and have a very slight puff simply because I can't put enough air through the horn, but when I try playing the trombone, my cheeks legitimately puff out somewhat when I play below, say, middle F. Being a trumpet player, trying out the trombone is quite a sensation. When I play notes above the first F above the bass staff, (gee, I'm not very good at explaining, am I?) I almost have to suck my lips inwards.
Sax-off-o-nist is great.
to Trent I play drums and trumpet and whenever I play my horn I puff my cheeks and I can't help it and it looks really wierd.
I used to puff my cheeks on lower notes. But then I got Invisalign. I had an overbite and the Invisalign is correcting it. I have found myself puffing my cheeks hardly at all when I play a bass trombone part in my school concert band and have to play petal tones. I'm not sure if it is because of my overbite getting corrected or the fact the the Invisalign itself physically pushes my lips out further from my teeth. One of my friends who plays trumpet got braces around the same time as me and has noticed the same thing. She did use to puff her cheeks but doesn't anymore because her teeth angled inward and the braces have been correcting it so that her jaw is shaped differently.
Have you thought about doing a review of 'The Wedge' mouthpiece. I play cornet so particularly interested in that??
Yeah, but they’re too expensive.
Trent Hamilton They do 90 money back 😀
I need the seal to play louder, unfortunately, so I use a puffed-out ombrechure for my 'marching tone', and a more professional, pulled in ombrechure for my 'concert tone'. An exception exists, however, when I'm playing notes on the bass octave, in which I need the seal, much like you do.
all the band directors I had were strict with the woodwind and brass players about that, (the only one who was EVER willing to make an exception was my h.s. band director mr. parent. but this was only during the 4 yearly home football games, (Needless to say when our team scored, the student section, including the band, would celebrate a little bit, and he always allowed us to be as loud as we (bleep)ing wanted whenever that happened, and also if we wanted to puff out our cheeks, (since we were NOT trying to sound good at that exact moment, he always said we could do that too.)
I'm also sure that puffing your cheeks while playing the trumpet effects the sound as opposed to not puffing your cheeks, but i'm not sure if it makes much of a difference on low brass instruments like trombone, baritone, and tuba
I find that when I puff my cheeks that the sound tends to sound more "airy" than if I were to not puff them.
im the exact opposite, if I hold my cheeks in it isn't a full sound compared to when I relax and puff a cheeks a bit.
Same for me. Idk what to pick man.
I usually just use both my cheek muscles and lungs to play at loud dynamics in any instrument i play on
Rest In Peace contrabass trombone
When I puffed my cheeks it was very clearly because I didn't really play the trumpet as often as I'm supposed to and all my face muscles slowly start failing while crying in pain. Unfortunately my fore teeth decided to hump each other as I got a brace to widen my upper bridge so now I'm stuck with another brace to fix the issue and I haven't been able to get back to playing since, as the goddamn thing carves trough my lips when I press the mouth piece on them.
But yeah, teachers probably tell that to their students because it's easier to pull off sound with a trumpet for new players by stiffening the cheeks, I don't know about tuba, trombone and other bass instruments but this is at least how it went with my trumpet teacher and a bit of personal experience.
Love this video. I've found that there are almost no absolutes with brass playing, and it's usually all just guidelines.
I use my middle finger for my fourth valve on my compensating euphonium. It works for me. I can activate the valve fast with that finger, probably due to how many people I've given the finger to after they've told me to use my index finger for that valve.
I puff my cheeks below a pedal Ab or so. Why? Cause if not, those notes are pretty useless for me. I suppose I could get nice pedals without puffing if I worked on it for a long while, but why should I?
I play off-center on my lips. It's slight, and on euph/trombone it's not noticeable. But, when I pull out the flugel, it's noticeable. I keep my mouthpiece maybe 5 mm to the right of the center of my lips, and it works for me. That's just where it settles for me.
I tend to have my feet slightly pulled under my chair while I play. Not in a way that causes tension, but in a way that's comfortable for me in the chairs we use in band. Yet, every time my band director sees that, he blows a gasket. Why? I'll never know.
That's just a few habits I've picked up. But I'm not sure any are detrimental. Maybe the off-center embouchure could cause problems later in life, if I ever reach an extremely high level, but I'm not sure that it'd ever be an issue.
People are way too concerned that if you aren't doing it the way they were taught in middle/high school and/or college, then you're wrong. That's simply not true. I've found that the majority of the things I've learned in band class have been simple guidelines, and that I've had to go out on my own to find what works for me.
I was told to play short, resonant notes for staccatos. That's great, but just "short and resonant" didn't explain to me how to do it. I played around with them until I figured out that I had to focus on the release of each staccato to get a nice, professional sound.
I was always told to provide good air support while I played, and I was given a few basic exercises to help me practice it. But, I didn't actually learn what proper breath support felt like till I went and practiced it on my own and developed my own exercises.
Maybe it's just an American issue, but it seems like we get very little good advice from teachers while we're young. It's true that they've got an entire class to teach, and that 12 year-olds aren't likely to listen that well, but I think we could teach some of this stuff better.
I understand this sentiment entirely. A lot of it comes down to band directors trying to teach to a professional standard that they like when there are opposing standards. My band director was what you might consider "progressive" and I was anything but. I remember a time in jazz band, we were going to play some 40s swing chart for the first time, so after glancing it over, I grabbed my Cornet and began to play in the appropriate fashion. We got through about half the page or so, doing well, when he finally cut us off and said something to the effect of "Markworth! Stop playing that 40's crap!". I just shrugged because I wasn't sure what was expected if not exactly that.
Could you possibly do a video on how to play louder on trombone?
I'm still starting out on Trombone, but I am in a pep band, and one rule there is to play loud. I for one, cannot play loud, at least not well. There isn't any videos showing people how to play out louder.
Honestly it's just putting more air through the horn, I personally find it doesn't take much to make a trombone be loud.
asking that question for the french horn is WAAY more appropriate than trombone
hey Trent can i mail you swan lake ballet its from 6-5-80 2nd trombone?
Can you give me any suggestions for Bass trombone. Like differences from Tenor Trombone other than the trigger
The only differences are the bore and bell size. The amount of tubing is the same, excepting for the optional 2nd trigger.
Oh thx
I usually just drop my jaw and make it look like I have an awful frown but my notes sound good like that so it's all good
I cannot puff my cheeks out while playing because I play reeded instruments and need a certain kind of support to properly play.
Brass instruments do not have these restrictions so play the way you can feel comfortable
How come I have trouble playing my tuba while puffing my cheeks
I myself am a primary baritone player and I found that I had to puff my cheeks out when I tried out my friend's tuba. It may be because I have a very small mouth or I was just not used to the amount of air it took.
But I've never puffed my cheeks out in any other instrument
That's most likely not having strong enough face muscles.
When playing french horn, I find that I puff my cheeks when I'm about to run out of breath so I can get as out as much air as possible.
Rip contrabone
Heresy! Where's my pitchfork and torch!
When learning trombone, all the kids that played brass were told "try not to puff your cheeks too much". I think as a beginner it helps youngsters be aware of what their cheeks are doing, but get stuck as a rule in their brain
I don't remember if anyone told me to not puff out my cheeks (while playing the trombone). I think I tried to avoid it because it hurt.
from one low brass player to anther, is necessarily bad to have your cheeks puffed when not playing in a low register?
+Camden Collins I don't believe so.
+Camden Collins I'm a trombonist, also a tubist. While I avoid puffing my cheeks while playing trombone, I don't find any difference in tonal quality if I play with my cheeks out. I just try to avoid it. However, when playing tuba, I find it almost impossible to not puff my cheeks because of how low the notes are. Again, it doesn't affect my tone. If you can get a good tone while puffing your cheeks, then there's not an issue with puffing your cheeks.
+Arik Jeppsen Yes I have had the same experience playing trombone
I'm a newer player but the rule in my band is that if you sound good do whatever that is so if you sound good puffing you cheeks out while going up in the register then do it
Trumpet players' mouthpieces use such a small amount of the lips it's not bad if they puff their cheeks as long as the jaw is open. Tbone and euph mouthpieces extend further than a trunpet mouthpiece. If we puff our cheeks, you get a bad sound. And if you puff your cheeks while playing it probably means your jaw isn't as open as it should be. Not to mention tubas. Their mouthpieces extend up to your nose and across your lips. If you puff your cheek, again, it probably means you jaw isn't as open as it should be.
I tried to play with my cheeks puffed and I just couldn't. I tried for a solid 15 minutes before I concluded it's a step backwards. I was taught by Ron Wilkins last year and he does puff his cheeks but only when it's very low and it's not much at all. I never do because when I do it sounds like horse poop and I've noticed the same for just about every trombone and tuba player I know of.
It could be partly me being self trained, but I found my sound was fuller on tuba, not euph or trombone, when slightly puffing my cheeks. But only for paticuliary low notes.
new mouthpiece idea?
every time i hear something about high notes it reminds me of my fear of not being able to play high notes with a good sound in highschool band next year i can play high notes but they just don't sound all that pretty and im on a trumpet and playing a g just above the staff it starts to sound bad
+Sebastian Kirschner Idk if this will help but try not to pinch/clench your lips on the high notes. The higher you go the faster you have to push air through your instrument.
+Sebastian Kirschner That fear is why you'll not hit them. Focus on lots of long slow tones, and lip slurs on the lower notes, that will develop your strength and endurance to play higher. But don't just sit trying to hit high notes, we've all done that, trust me, it just leads to poor habits, frustration, and worse broken cut lips from pressing too hard. Way better to spend time playing lower notes between c below staff and no higher than d on the staff. If you hold those notes over two bars and practice adding dynamics to those notes, if you do that right. Your face will ache afterwards, but your lips won't hurt. Give it a few weeks I bet you'll have added the a above that g to your range and you'll be howling out that g whenever you want. It's working for me. Too much time is spent worrying about hitting high notes, sure we all want to do it, but it's like weight training, add a little at a time, and whatever your range of notes is right now, make sure you make them sound as good as you can, and be able to play them real soft and real loud for a short burst of for a long time. Then when a new note higher up pops out, remember how your lips felt when you got it, and slowly add that to your notes you've already notched up. Good luck hope you get where you want with it.
Just to blast on sousaphone
Wedge Mouthpieces have a curve, try one.
Was the trombone by any chance the instrument you started on?
No; I started on cornet.
Trent Hamilton Nice, I started on trumpet, but also own a cornet.
I play flute the best, but I also play trumpet and my dad plays cornet. I also play more instruments, but I don't wanna brag.:D
AmericanPatriot76 he started on cornet when he was 4
I play trumpet with my cheeks out for vibrato and tonal reasons, my notes seem more in tune and my vibrato sounds waaaayyy more better. That is my reasoning...
I puff my cheeks out when I'm playing lower and louder notes so it doesn't go to the next harmonic
Whenever i try to keep in my cheeks, i can only play high notes
I'm a trombone player I puff my cheeks when I play low notes or if I couldn't get to the high note I do it one 8va low.
No you play the high note, none of this octave down bull shit
+Nathan Anderson push yourself
+Nahtanoj hey go fuck your self. If you don't know about music go some other UA-cam channel.
I never puff out my cheeks even when hitting false tones(tuba) it's a huge crime in my band to puff out your cheeks. It doesn't hinder me at all
+Gabe Donovan It shouldn't be a huge crime anywhere. I think that opinion is ignorant.
+Trent Hamilton me too, they are very strict but it has helped me but discouraged others to quit band. They believe that puffing out your cheeks is wasting air because you need air to fill up your cheeks
On my trumpet when I get into the higher register I kinda just naturally puff my cheeks I know particularly know why but on the tuba sometimes when I get a fatter articulation my cheeks briefly puff with the actual articulation.
I can play double pedal tones on my tenor trombone or a normal pedal on a tuba and don't have to puff out my cheeks but its because I taught myself to control it cause puffing cheeks is very frowned upon where I come from. I'm not against it at all because there are very fine players who do play with their cheeks puffed and if it works for you and you don't give a flying fuck I support that
+Gabe Donovan its also a huge crime that you cant play lower than a Bb
Sometimes I puff out my upper and lower lips playing jazz
How about designing the mouth piece so it follows the curve of the mouth, instead of making it flat?
I think that already exists for other brass instruments, not sure about tuba. I personally like the pretty standard 69C4. One thing's certain though, this guy has zero problem playing low without puffing his cheeks. ua-cam.com/video/xjgDjAbYfxQ/v-deo.html
Tuba Rule: Sit in back, sleep.
Euphonium Rule: Sit in back, sleep, eat, play on phone.
Trombone Rule: Play loud, talk/ tell jokes, be awesome.
Trumpet Rule: Play loud, talk, piss off band director.
Percussion Rule: Play way too loud, piss off band director.
Everyone Else Rule: Don't be noticed
Anybody ever watch Louis Armstrong???
several so called pro brass players is puffing take a look at Dizzy Gillespie even his neck is expanding
He stores jazz in his cheeks for the winter ;)
maybe that´s why you shouldn´t puff. I don´t want my neck expanding when I play...
If it sounds good, it is good, though.
But teachers think it is a rule.
heck, I have even seen people with those loud as f--- plastic stadium horns, (I know, they are not really brass instruments but I think every single one of you has more than enough common sense to figure out why I am mentioning them in this comment, meaning the ones that were used by the spectators in the stands during the actual matches of the South Africa World Cup in 2010.
OMG PUFF CHEEK EEEEEEEEEK OHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"trombone and tuba mouthpieces are the same size". What?
Contrabass trombone
He really only do that because he hasn't played a big mouthpiece