The Euphonium, with variations on Napoli

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  • Demonstration of a Euphonium.
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  • @liloutcast4904
    @liloutcast4904 7 років тому +54

    Extremely underrated instrument does not get enough praise

    • @liloutcast4904
      @liloutcast4904 7 років тому +10

      Has such a unique sound

    • @mason11198
      @mason11198 4 роки тому +2

      Gets far more praise than the tuba... :/

    • @d.schoepflin2247
      @d.schoepflin2247 2 роки тому

      @@mason11198 In some cases, it's because it sounds better than the tuba, especially the bass trombone!

    • @wagihero
      @wagihero 2 роки тому

      Yes. That's correct!

  • @RynoZero2
    @RynoZero2 8 років тому +24

    as a euphonium. player myself i agree with him

  • @205amb
    @205amb 7 років тому +33

    you should do a rant about why euphonium player should have more opportunities than just be stuck with brass and concert bands as of right now. The reason why euphoniums are not in symphony orchestras or Jazz or pop is simply because it's unwanted. When Steven Mead was applying for the Royal Academy of Music, it wasn't possible for him to study euphonium.

    • @205amb
      @205amb 7 років тому +2

      Just because the euphonium is underrated doesn't mean it's one of the worst instruments. It's the best, and it shouldn't be deserved to have limited opportunities

    • @cyndie26
      @cyndie26 6 років тому +1

      Out of curiosity, how possible would it be to cover tuba parts on a euphonium?

    • @christopheralvarado4544
      @christopheralvarado4544 6 років тому

      cyndie26 There would probably be better instruments for that.

    • @mason11198
      @mason11198 4 роки тому +1

      You can go classical. There were famous classical saxophonists, it just means you need to work a bit harder, i.e. arranging

    • @dingusdingus2152
      @dingusdingus2152 2 роки тому

      David Childs seems to be doing all he can to popularize the euphonium

  • @Octovol
    @Octovol 9 років тому +16

    I do like your videos, always informative, always honest always interesting.
    I myself have been playing a euph for less than two months and I first touched a brass instrument around September last year. I started on Baritone horn, mainly because anything smaller the mouthpiece felt too small for me to get a decent sound out of when I was trying the instruments out. Anyway, I pushed my teacher to move to euphonium knowing only that the sound it made did something to me that no other instrument can, plus I have some good lungs to power it (even if I don't yet utilise them to their fullest). There are certain instruments that, when played well, stop me in my tracks, this is one of them.
    I've been playing some marching tunes like Slaidburn and True and Trusty and I aspire to The Lincolnshire Poacher, thats about my level. I am a quick study and I watch a lot of videos about technique and examples and such and they all echo what you say about euph being one of the more difficult roles to play. Several other people including my teacher and others in the band; My wife, who plays bass trombone said the same. I ignored them all because I just love how it sounds. However, i'm beginning to feel a little daunted by how technical the parts are.
    Up till now I've been playing the 2nd baritone parts and the odd 1st baritone here and there. I keep an eye on what our euph players are doing and I have to admit; I prefer the baritone parts, but I want to play them on euph! So thats what i'm doing. For now. Not sure what I'll do yet when it comes to contesting! And though I know I'm very much still in the early stages of my learning, videos like yours really help me understand what I need to get better.
    So, Thank you :)

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому +2

      Hi Steven Rydel, thanks heaps for your feedback. It's really encouraging to read :) You have a bass trombonist as a wife? That's awesome. I don't think I've ever met a female bass trombone player before. All the best, Trent.

  • @user-cz4bl3gb3m
    @user-cz4bl3gb3m 6 років тому +3

    I have played euphonium for 4 years now. I love it so much, I don't know what I would do without it

  • @17AJ06
    @17AJ06 5 років тому +4

    The euphonium was the first wind instrument I learned to play. I come from a choral background and taught myself piano, so being able to read music already helped with learning the euph. I played tennis from 6th-10th, and just got super burnt out, and the band director had wanted me in band since 6th grade, so after school one day, we tried out instruments, and the euph mouthpiece fit my mouth the best, and in a matter of a year an a half, I’m 2nd chair, and an pretty decent at the instrument, so that’s pretty cool.

    • @isaacshaw1596
      @isaacshaw1596 Рік тому +1

      Never call it a wind instrument! That’s insulting to us brass lovers

  • @RobB-vz2vo
    @RobB-vz2vo 9 років тому +6

    Good video and information. I played in a brass band at school starting on the eb euphoneum for three years then played cornet for three years when we purchased new instruments...including woodwind...after which we were then technically a marching band with the addition of the woodwind section. Then it went crazy with the music teacher adding kettle drums and violins. I played for a total of six years at school and have have started playing again since stopping 35 years ago. I still remember my scales and now working on my embouchure before joining a community band.

  • @mallenwho
    @mallenwho 9 років тому +8

    if you want a gigantic challenge have a go at the Karl Jenkins euphonium concerto - any movement although 1 and 4 sound the best.
    One of the most technically challenging pieces on any instrument I have ever heard.
    One of few orchestral pieces for euphonium.

  • @wyattwahlgren8883
    @wyattwahlgren8883 7 років тому +27

    Whenever you say "air" or "airflow" it sounds like "ear".

    • @willashland4597
      @willashland4597 4 роки тому

      it's cuz he's a kiwi

    • @razor6020
      @razor6020 4 роки тому +1

      Hes from new zealand so its his accent

  • @Rob_Kates
    @Rob_Kates 8 років тому +2

    Five octaves, that is impressive. One of my favorite baritone players is Leonard Falcone. He was a professor of Music at Michigan State University for several decades.

  • @conchischosen1343
    @conchischosen1343 7 років тому +29

    The euphonium is my favorite instrument, mainly because i started on it

    • @bowserfan1011
      @bowserfan1011 7 років тому +1

      chosenconche I started on alto sax and went to eupho and eupho is my favorite Instrument

    • @jeffthememeslayer5096
      @jeffthememeslayer5096 7 років тому

      chosenconche I started from trombone then I ended up on tuba

    • @u3093
      @u3093 5 років тому +1

      Same. I'm the only euphonium player in the band but I'm not that good as I've only been doing it since I started first year so 2 years.

    • @mason11198
      @mason11198 4 роки тому

      I went from Eupho to tuba. It's hard to go back because when you acquire a low sound the higher pitched instrument is undesirable

    • @d.schoepflin2247
      @d.schoepflin2247 2 роки тому +1

      @@bowserfan1011It's always great to see a sax player switch to a good instrument, especially a brass instrument! I hope you're enjoying the eupho!

  • @Entety303
    @Entety303 8 років тому +7

    in Slovenia we have french horns in brass bands.

  • @WSCKR
    @WSCKR 6 років тому +31

    did you know that the work "Euphonium" literally means "Good-sound-ium"?

    • @mr.starfish4965
      @mr.starfish4965 5 років тому +2

      WSCKR | Yeah, the Greek word it originated from means “sweet-toned”

    • @KasioGames
      @KasioGames 4 роки тому

      Geometry Dash

  • @wagihero
    @wagihero 2 роки тому +1

    I love the warm sound of Euphonium ☺️

  • @BarretDude
    @BarretDude 7 років тому +27

    I'm tired of reading negatives comments

  • @xcd87
    @xcd87 8 років тому +28

    you said the euphonium is not an instrument for beginners but it's actually the first instrument that i learned to play and i was ok at it and then i learned to play the trombone.

    • @avidity899
      @avidity899 8 років тому +3

      Me to I still play it

    • @Phunkophil
      @Phunkophil 7 років тому +3

      You can generally start with any instrument you like, but with instruments like the euphonium or french horn you get frustrated much faster. Even more so kids and young adults. Though once you get to that intermediate level the struggle of course more than pays off.

    • @maneatinggnomes3985
      @maneatinggnomes3985 7 років тому +3

      cris 14 TRAITOR

    • @xcd87
      @xcd87 7 років тому +2

      hahahah, hey man i had no choice the brass band i was playing at had no euphonium or baritone, so i learned the trombone or else i had nothing to play,ahahahahah.

    • @xcd87
      @xcd87 7 років тому +3

      the only one that got frustrated was the guy teaching me,hahhahah, but then i got better and he was ok,hahahh.

  • @troll7589
    @troll7589 8 років тому +9

    Trombone is always in tune, if ur good

    • @Hiroyuki_T
      @Hiroyuki_T 3 роки тому

      Yeah. You can compensate by adjusting the slide position for the certain note

  • @lividphysics1237
    @lividphysics1237 5 років тому +2

    I agree with your beginning point that the principal to be among the best players as ours is arguably the best brass player in our band

  • @pwnagepantsmc
    @pwnagepantsmc 7 років тому +17

    the f horn has 6 octaves of effective range I can play 4 right now but we have better range then euphs

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +19

      The F horn naturally, by itself, does not have 6 octaves of effective range. If you can hit 6 of a particular note, IE: you can play 6 different 'C's at different octaves, that only gives you five octaves of range. Some people might be able to squeeze out six full octaves, but calling that effective is incorrect, I strongly suspect.

    • @pwnagepantsmc
      @pwnagepantsmc 7 років тому +4

      I confused range and effective range

    • @edwardcooper7711
      @edwardcooper7711 5 років тому

      I can play just more than 6 octaves on my tenor trombone

    • @WheelinWeenie
      @WheelinWeenie 4 роки тому +2

      Ed Coops bs

    • @bigbrungus5284
      @bigbrungus5284 4 роки тому +1

      @@edwardcooper7711 The trombone is just a slide euphonium :)

  • @pauldance7387
    @pauldance7387 6 років тому +2

    Fascinating channel and very well appreciated, you’re so dam smart👍

  • @kevinglynn8645
    @kevinglynn8645 8 років тому +6

    I honestly think that the tuning slide pedal would be a waist of money for a player that has good control over his or her embouchure

    • @TheDragonfett
      @TheDragonfett 8 років тому

      Less reliable, the tubing is more definite, however I guess if you might already have your embouchure set flat, for example, due to temperature or something, and can't go any flatter for the note, the tuning trigger would work.

  • @louisthomas367
    @louisthomas367 8 років тому +7

    what mouthpiece are you using

  • @markhorton3994
    @markhorton3994 5 років тому +1

    Forever ago ( I'm 67) in Jr. High I started on trumpet and had my own student grade instrument. We had one Baritone Horn (Bb treble clef) He was probably the best musician we had. His Uncle was Salvation Army and had gotten a English Salvation Army instrument factory horn for him. It was silver and tiny (I have later thought that it might have been a tenor horn) it's tone was magnificent. Our instructor (1st chair 3rd violin for the San Diego Symphony) had too many trumpets so two of us switched to Baritone. Our school instruments must have really been Euphoniums because they were huge, bigger than my father's small marching tuba. The little silver horn less than half the size got more than twice the sound. We played mostly 3rd trumpet parts but Mr. Woodson was able to get some arrangements with parts for us.

    • @d.schoepflin2247
      @d.schoepflin2247 2 роки тому

      I started on Euphonium in about the 6th grade also forever ago after playing trumpet for about five years but the director I had at the time wanted take one of her six trumpets off that instrument and put them on baritone because the very small band need some bass instruments, BUT, she did not teach me to read bass clef. By the time I got to 7th grade, The band director forced me to play bass clef even though I didn't know how to read it! Thankfully, I wasn't the only baritone player in the Jr. High band! He was able to give me some tricks to help me transpose it in my head to treble clef which got me through three more years of Jr. high. I wish I could remember those tricks now! I played treble clef so long, that it was impossible to retrain my brain to read a different cleft. I'm now 43 years old and still can't read bass clef! Yes I can tell you what bass clef note goes on each line and space but I cant get used to calling what was a C in treble clef to a B-flat on the the bass clef! I never owned my own Euphonium until 2020 when I stumbled on a silver plated one in a pawn shop in Northern Virginia! It was it was in like new condition with no dents or scratches and best of all it was a cheap price so bought it! I played it mainly in the church orchestra for several years as a teenager, but, now that I'm as old as dirt I still play in my local church's orchestra! I'd play in my current city's symphony orchestra in Southwest Virginia if they would accept a treble clef reading euphonium player.

  • @DynamixWarePro
    @DynamixWarePro 5 років тому +1

    Have you ever seen or played a marching Euphonium with the bell pointing forward? It would be interesting if you ever could get one to show it in your videos or even a marching tuba or baritone with the forward pointing bell.

  • @gabrielrussell225
    @gabrielrussell225 8 років тому +10

    I have played Euphonium/Baritone since 6th grade and I am in 10th. All higher level pieces are sort of like that. Any tips on the extreme amounts of tongueing?

    • @CorellianYT1300Series
      @CorellianYT1300Series 8 років тому +7

      +Gabriel Russell Practice dude. Patience. Start slow. Start low. And don't push yourself and never use force to get high notes. Wind instruments are played with air. I have been playing for 17 years now and there was a time I thought some things will be impossible for me. But everything will come in time.

    • @gabrielrussell225
      @gabrielrussell225 8 років тому +2

      +Andreas Saluste thanks I appreciate it!

  • @tedtedsen269
    @tedtedsen269 9 років тому +31

    The Euphonium is called in my band the poore mans tuba

    • @aftertheelectrike1847
      @aftertheelectrike1847 8 років тому +29

      Then your band is skrubby.

    • @kevinglynn8645
      @kevinglynn8645 8 років тому +22

      the Euphonium is a beautiful instrument when played correctly. if it is referred to as the "poor man's tuba" then it is the players fault, not the instrument

    • @aftertheelectrike1847
      @aftertheelectrike1847 8 років тому +1

      +Kevin Glynn IKR.

    • @johnminiongamer1991
      @johnminiongamer1991 8 років тому +4

      I'm in 7th grade and play euphonium. I have an 8th grade friend who plays tuba and he calls me "mini tuba."

    • @tedtedsen269
      @tedtedsen269 8 років тому

      he he Nice the Euphonium is a Nice sounding horn i dont play it myselfe you need a lot PSI to blow into that big horn i play different saxophones like tenor alto baritone and soprano and even clarinet and trumpet ,in my band there is ust older guys 40+ but thanks for Your reply John keep it up practice and practice and practice more Greetings from Norway

  • @hayda7630
    @hayda7630 5 років тому +4

    I prefer the 4 valves on top because it seems a lot faster than using your other hand. But hey that’s just me

    • @Danny-sy7bg
      @Danny-sy7bg 5 років тому +1

      I just have bad pinkies lol

  • @digigamer0316
    @digigamer0316 7 років тому +9

    I play the B-flat Tuba is that good enough?

  • @Scott-bq7jn
    @Scott-bq7jn 7 років тому +19

    you should do a video on a 2 Bell euphonium

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +12

      I would if I had one :(

    • @Scott-bq7jn
      @Scott-bq7jn 7 років тому +4

      Maybe you could rent one or give a video with info and uses of it

    • @Scott-bq7jn
      @Scott-bq7jn 7 років тому +10

      You could also compare it with the regular euphonium by explaining how the 5th key works and what the advantages of using it in a orchestra

    • @jeffthememeslayer5096
      @jeffthememeslayer5096 7 років тому +4

      bich da fuk

    • @dingusdingus2152
      @dingusdingus2152 2 роки тому

      A double bell euphonium is actually a trombone and a euphonium jammed into one instrument. I am going to take a wild guess that they came out in the late 19th century but I have no idea why

  • @wesleyrichards8027
    @wesleyrichards8027 2 роки тому +1

    I started learning with this instrument. I turned out fine. (I hope). I currently play on an old Boosey & Hawkes (Round Stamp) Euphonium & have been since learning.

    • @bassguitarplayer09
      @bassguitarplayer09 Рік тому

      Nice! I play a 4-valve Yamaha eupho

    • @wesleyrichards8027
      @wesleyrichards8027 Рік тому

      @@bassguitarplayer09 I have now gone to a Besson Prestige Euphonium. I don't own my instrument, I have rent it from the band. They wanted my on the better instrument mainly for sound quality.

  • @TheSproutarian
    @TheSproutarian 6 років тому +1

    the best i've heard you play son.

  • @ComedyDude1231
    @ComedyDude1231 9 років тому +1

    I notice that the euphonium and tuba have a lot similarities, like they both have a large playing range contrabass and bass tubas having 5 and a half octave playing range but the highest octave which i mark past the Eb above the staff (bass clef) is really only practical on a bass tuba. Once you get into the higher registers on tuba, notes tend to drop themselves a half step so you have to know what note sounds like before playing it. Some tubas, mostly F tubas have a mechanical slide adjuster too. The tuba for the most part never have the same part as any other instrument and play unique melodies. But i always found the euphonium easier to play then the tuba, but i assume that is because i play the the tuba and the two instruments are very similar. The tuba has tuning issues as well the best example i know for BBb tuba is B natural which always comes out as a flat c unless you pull out the fourth valve tuning slide while playing, a tuned Bb means a flat F, a tuned Eb means a flat Ab, a tuned D means a flat G, and so on so that means just like the euphonium that means to have to change your mouth position and buzzing to get a tuned note.
    Overall I have enjoyed your video and thought i would mention the similarities between the Tuba and Euphonium, i do play both instruments and if you want to see a great deal of the tubas range in action you should check out Ralph Vaughn Williams Tuba Concerto if you haven't seen it.

  • @seandecoursey
    @seandecoursey 6 років тому +2

    I’ve been playing Euph for about five years now. I am in 8th grade. I have a range of pedal G/F all the way to high D flat/D above the staff twice (in bass clef). I want some feedback from pros or more experienced Euph players on this. (Also, not to toot my own horn (not ironically) I am the first chair player in the all-Illinois middle-school band. Just wanted to throw that out there. Not to brag or boast 😬)

  • @TheRealOgrelord
    @TheRealOgrelord 5 років тому

    I started playing the baritone for my 6th grade year in school, and started playing euphonium since 7th grade to now (11th, junior)

  • @raphaelcardoso1194
    @raphaelcardoso1194 6 років тому +5

    came here because of the anime Hibike! Euphonium

  • @MiguelRodriguez-kx4ld
    @MiguelRodriguez-kx4ld 8 років тому +1

    I have been playing the euphonium since 6th grade beginning band.At first,I was playing a Cornet but The mouthpiece was too small for me and my instructor gave me a eupho and played a D.It was easier to play but more challenging.Ever since I've been playing the euphonium.

  • @geminijaguar7274
    @geminijaguar7274 7 років тому +58

    look at all these salty horn and trombone players lmao

  • @trentgibson9910
    @trentgibson9910 9 років тому

    I'm the only High School Euphonium player. I'm glad I chose to start playing it in 6th grade. Thanks for the information, Trent... I have the same first name! ;)

  • @kuiper921
    @kuiper921 8 років тому

    Idk how but the other day i played a note on the euph and i play trumpet, it actually felt really similar to the amount of control of air i need for the trumpet.

    • @oakleygee5616
      @oakleygee5616 7 років тому

      I can agree, I am a trumpet player and I played the euphonium for a 2ish months

  • @marffvmarffv5438
    @marffvmarffv5438 5 років тому

    So if euphonium is not for a beginner brass player (I play violin) which one do you suggest ? Trumpet, trombone ? Thanks !

  • @sebthi7890
    @sebthi7890 2 роки тому

    once i bought a brass instrument made by Courtois, looked like baritone or euphonium, i couldn't classify it. Now i found the Courtois call it Saxhorn, anyone knows it and can tell me about the difference to an euphonium and baritone?

  • @iversonfuller1308
    @iversonfuller1308 7 років тому

    That was beautiful

  • @stephenowens5091
    @stephenowens5091 5 років тому +2

    I have played trombone for a year, percussion(which I don't really like to qualify as an instrument) for 2 years, and trumpet for half of a year is it a good time to start learning Euphonium? I've always wanted to play one.

    • @d.schoepflin2247
      @d.schoepflin2247 2 роки тому

      I took percussion in high school and I partly agree with you by not qualifying it as an instrument but one part of the percussion section are instruments, that's the xylophones and marimba which you need to have studied piano for a while to understand the sheet music and the layout of the instruments! My favorite percussion instruments were the tympani, and the temple blocks some call wood blocks. I actually enjoyed percussion, but NOT in the marching band, because I was in the percussion pit Where they put students that can't march for whatever reason. My reason was being legally blind as a result of childhood brain cancer from my junior high years.

    • @dingusdingus2152
      @dingusdingus2152 2 роки тому +1

      Stephen Owens go for it!

    • @stephenowens5091
      @stephenowens5091 2 роки тому

      I went for it

  • @harleypitts898
    @harleypitts898 9 років тому

    Does anyone know where I can get or buy some sheet music on the variations on Napoli I want to use it as a technical peace for a audition

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому

      Harley Pitts Google search it - Napoli Variations by Herman Bellstedt.

  • @andymayeuxproductions
    @andymayeuxproductions 9 років тому

    How long have you been playing music (like any instrument ever in you life)?

  • @jackg9091
    @jackg9091 5 років тому

    Technically speaking the horn (the common double horn, that is) and the 4-valve euphonium have the exact same range.
    The horn is in the key of F, with a fundamental at F1, the trigger raises it a fourth to Bb, with a fundamental at Bb1.
    The euphonium is in Bb by default, with a fundamental at Bb1, and the 4th valve lowers it a 4th to F, with a fundamental at F1.
    So, the pressing of a horn trigger is equivalent to the unpressing of 4th valve, and vice versa. And, they're both conical.
    The big difference is the bore size. The horn has a smaller bore making the low pedals less usable and harder to hit. Likewise, the euphonium's large bore makes the high notes less usable and harder to hit.
    Another distinction is that the horn uses independent tuning slides on the Bb and F sides, but the euphonium uses a compensating system. (However, compensating horns do exist and they're pretty neat.)
    I mean no ill intent toward Trent. He's more inclined to British bands, so he's less familiar with horns just as I'm less familiar with tenor horns.

  • @57Easteregg
    @57Easteregg 8 років тому

    Were the notes lower than the fundamental notes similar in any way to pedal notes on a trombone? Just wondering because that is the only thing that I could think they would be.

    • @57Easteregg
      @57Easteregg 8 років тому

      +superbaconstrip
      I see. Thanks for the explanation!

  • @greatvib3s
    @greatvib3s 7 років тому

    a lot of the things mentioned in the video can be applied to other instruments, not just euphoniums. harmonics have notes as you mentioned that will be out of tune on all instruments, some more than others. instruments like tubas or cornets will often contain triggers on one or more slides (usually not main unless instrument has bad intonation) to correct certain pitch issues. a good brass band will have a good solo instrument, a great band will have a great background part. every instrument in the brass band will need to do many of the things mentioned in the video, not just the euphonium.

  • @kyleconductorandtuba
    @kyleconductorandtuba 9 років тому

    So what is the exactly is the difference between an e flat or b flat bass euphonium? (I'm in high school and in a small concert band so we don't have quite the range of a larger band or orchestra)

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому

      Just the pitch. In a brass band we call a tuba a 'bass', and in some other bands they call a euphonium a 'tenor tuba'. Some people like to call a tuba a 'bass euphonium', but I prefer not to. Ultimately though, the instruments are all the same, just different sizes. A Bb tuba can look pretty similar to a euphonium, but be twice the size. A Eb bass (tuba) is almost half way between a Euphonium and a Bb tuba in size. They're all pretty much the same thing, just in different sizes.

  • @itkobe6901
    @itkobe6901 8 років тому +8

    I played Euph when i began band

    • @itkobe6901
      @itkobe6901 8 років тому

      +John Averin Aslakhanov aaaahhhhh okay.

  • @johnries5593
    @johnries5593 7 років тому +1

    Euphonium has a fuller sound, but the bari is nimbler and more piercing.

    • @alexjester7696
      @alexjester7696 7 років тому

      Bari is not any more nimble than a euph. It's just more piercing.

    • @johnries5593
      @johnries5593 7 років тому

      Alex Jester I've played both instruments and respectfully disagree.

    • @alexjester7696
      @alexjester7696 7 років тому

      John Ries I have marched bari and euph, and played euph in concert band. I find no difference in the technical aspects of playing them assuming the instruments are of the same quality

  • @johnminiongamer1991
    @johnminiongamer1991 8 років тому

    My Yamaha euphonium has its fourth valve right next to the other three valves. It's basically the first and third valve conbined. Doesn't the fourth valve lower it from Bb to F?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому +1

      +John TheEmporer Yes, the function of the fourth valve is the same regardless whether it's top or side mounted. I'm yet to see, however, a top mounted four valve compensating mechanism.

    • @kuiper921
      @kuiper921 8 років тому

      +Trent Hamilton Challenge accepted, hehe

  • @cyndie26
    @cyndie26 6 років тому

    Out of curiosity, if compensating valve systems eliminate the need for extra valves, why do so many orchestral tuba players not use them? Is it because they hate the sound of pistons moving up and down or possibly because rotors allow for smoother articulation?
    Also, I tried out a euphonium and tenor trombone recently, essentially never having played brass in about nine years, and I found the euphonium to be more "forgiving" than the trombone (or at least forgiving enough to get me through the opening notes of the Vaughn Williams tuba concerto).

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  6 років тому +1

      Compensating systems add a lot of extra resistance making it much harder to play your full chromatic range with equal tone and intonation.

    • @cyndie26
      @cyndie26 6 років тому

      Trent Hamilton I guess that explains why the compensating one I tried today was a lot less "forgiving", so this would mean if I end up getting a euphonium, this would mean I'd have to decide between personal comfort and lower register intonation.

  • @cyborgjonny
    @cyborgjonny 8 років тому

    How can I tell if I have a euphonium or a baritone, the person I bought it from referred to it as a baritone horn but they didn't seem like the kind of person that knew what they were talking about.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому

      +Nahtanoj Send me a link to a photo and I'll tell you. Generally a euphonium will have a much larger bell and a larger, more conical bore.

    • @trentgibson9910
      @trentgibson9910 8 років тому

      Look at the tubing around the bell of the instrument. If the tubing is of a thin diameter and anmost the same size sat the rest of the instrument the , then it's a baritone. If the tubing is of a thicker diameter and different throughout the instrument, then it's a euphonium...
      Bell size can be a factor, too. If it has a small bell, it's a baritone. If it haze a large bell, it's a euphonium.

  • @JonFrumTheFirst
    @JonFrumTheFirst 7 років тому

    Regarding 'filling the euphonium with air' - doesn't it already have air in it when you start playing? I know that there's a point that needs to be made, but it can't be that literally the instrument - or any other wind instrument - needs to be 'filled with air.'

  • @abrahamc8523
    @abrahamc8523 6 років тому

    What is he saying when Euphonium plays in treble clef? All Euphonium music I’ve come across is in Bass clef. Live in USA.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  6 років тому +1

      Yes, but I’m the British style brass band the euphonium plays in treble clef.

  • @chesshireagavata1473
    @chesshireagavata1473 7 років тому

    I thought I heard the variations on Napoli from somewhere, and I figured it out.

  • @theorigamidoctor9034
    @theorigamidoctor9034 7 років тому

    Where can I find this arrangement?

  • @BarretDude
    @BarretDude 8 років тому

    I have a friend that plays euphonium and I play horn (french horn for people who don't follow the international horn society). And the euphonium has a natural range of about 3 octaves and the horn has a natural range of 4-5 (depending on the era). Especially in orchestras, where there is a 4th horn part that is mostly in bass clef.

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 8 років тому

      +BarretDude when I say natural I mean that is written for the instrument.

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 8 років тому

      +Michael Kirby no he's the third best student euphonium in the state, he can play 4-5 octaves, but it's just not that usual unless you're a soloist

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 8 років тому

      +Michael Kirby that's what I've seen anyway

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 8 років тому

      +Michael Kirby Georgia

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 8 років тому +1

      +Michael Kirby we are also one of the best states for music

  • @josephus9898
    @josephus9898 6 років тому

    Whered you get this sheet music

  • @Ashleigh_Gradel
    @Ashleigh_Gradel 9 років тому

    It'd be really cool (at least in my opinion) if you could play the euph solo from the March of Holst's Second Suite.

    • @Ashleigh_Gradel
      @Ashleigh_Gradel 9 років тому

      I said that wrong, I'm sure you can, I meant it would be nice if you would.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому

      Robert Gradel Hey Robert, I just did a quick search, and it looks pretty straight forward - is there anything specific you want me to record? Or perhaps I'm looking at the wrong thing? ua-cam.com/video/7nz7tvRdL94/v-deo.html#t=47

    • @Ashleigh_Gradel
      @Ashleigh_Gradel 9 років тому

      That's the one. It's pretty straightforward, technically, and for some reason, at least here in the US, it's almost a measuring stick for euphonium players, despite its relative simplicity. I guess that's why the band directors always preach tone over technique...

  • @mallenwho
    @mallenwho 9 років тому +68

    happy face, happy face, happy face, chose the right instrument
    "euphonium not a beginners instrument"
    well bugger.
    "comments on hardness to play"
    oh bugger.
    "most tallented person in band"
    bugger.
    6 years in, but bugger.
    Still good ego boost though.

    • @kylersmith5439
      @kylersmith5439 7 років тому +7

      Omg I feel. I was watching like "hmmmm well I didn't think I was THAT good but ALRIGHT"

    • @maneatinggnomes3985
      @maneatinggnomes3985 7 років тому +5

      Jesse Mallen lol literally the first instrument I have ever played (I have played it since 5th grade), it has now been 4 years, and I'm still rocking the yep-201 standard euphonium they give us lol

    • @FreezingGamer1
      @FreezingGamer1 7 років тому

      xD king 2280 all the way!

    • @benprange2274
      @benprange2274 6 років тому +1

      I'm 7th chair trumpet (high school band) and thinking about switching. felt really good about this until 1:30 into this video... now stress. Just stress.

    • @cyndie26
      @cyndie26 6 років тому +1

      I actually sucked at trumpet during fifth grade band and have played non-brass instruments ever since, but I tried out a euphonium yesterday and was able to play the opening notes to Ralph Vaughn William's tuba concerto.

  • @Juno1849
    @Juno1849 8 років тому

    Hi! You said that the euphonium isn't beginner friendly. What instrument would you recommend for an organist who wants to learn a brass instrument on the side?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому

      Depends on what instrument you wish to end up playing. Trumpet, alto/tenor or baritone horn, or Trombone if you're wishing to play that.

    • @kevinjames4072
      @kevinjames4072 8 років тому

      I disagree completely . I would advocate that the euphonium is possibly the most beginner friendly brass instrument to learn. The register speaks easily- the valves are often easier for a beginner to to comprehend. The added resistance (though it can create bad habits) can really help a new player feel comfortable in creating a sound

    • @Danishhenchman
      @Danishhenchman 7 років тому

      Kevin James I started on trombone. Saw the fingering chart for baritone and tuba, picked up baritone quickly.

  • @luizklaus4816
    @luizklaus4816 8 років тому

    What is the fourth valve funcion, or what means the compensad euphonium?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому

      +Luiz Klaus There's another video on my channel where I talk about compensating valves.

    • @tbonetime3568
      @tbonetime3568 8 років тому

      The 4th valve in most brass instruments to add the extra tubing to help with the lower octaves

    • @ughugh_
      @ughugh_ 8 років тому

      F C

  • @miamc4602
    @miamc4602 7 років тому

    What about the F horn? Doesn't it have the largest range?

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 7 років тому

      Name Surname he said his experiences is with a brass band, so he may not know exactly, don't mean to be rude and correct me if I'm wrong Trent. So he is talking about the use in a brass band, while the horn has the largest natural range, it is not used in a brass band, it's used in concert bands and orchestras. The horn has a natural range of 5 octaves while the euphonium has a natural range of 3 or 4 (I'm not a euphonium player but I have a friend).

  • @coolandhip_7596
    @coolandhip_7596 6 років тому

    The euphinium was what i started on and still play

  • @ThomasJohnson-rj8cc
    @ThomasJohnson-rj8cc 8 років тому

    I play the baritone and it is basically the same thing as ephoneom. same notes, same fingerings

  • @TallGlassOfLemonade
    @TallGlassOfLemonade 9 років тому

    how big is the range of the euphonium compared to the french horn? the horn has a pretty big range too

    • @caintham563
      @caintham563 8 років тому

      +Saturn Its a very personal question, for me the french horn has a bigger range. it depends on the player.

    • @BarretDude
      @BarretDude 8 років тому +1

      Cain is right, it is kind of a personal thing, what's written for the instruments, the horn is the only brass instrument that had to cover the soprano, alto, tener. and bass parts, but that's mostly orchestras and horn ensembles, it has a written range of 4-5 octaves, where the written range for a euphonium had a written range of around 3, but my euphonium friend can play more octaves than me a horn player

    • @TallGlassOfLemonade
      @TallGlassOfLemonade 8 років тому

      thanks for the responses (both of you)

    • @brentonsmith3901
      @brentonsmith3901 8 років тому

      +Saturn If you want to look at it scientifically, a euph has 8.5 feet of tubing while a horn has 12. The horn has higher resistance, and is capable of a higher range. A skilled player can also go as low if not lower than a euph

    • @brentonsmith3901
      @brentonsmith3901 8 років тому

      ***** very true. just in my personal experience of playing euph for 7 years, combined with messing around on a horn for a week, I had a much larger range on the horn

  • @matthewlord4248
    @matthewlord4248 8 років тому

    What does the little lever above the fourth valve do?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  8 років тому

      +Matthew Lord it holds the fourth valve closed so that it fits in the case better.

    • @CorellianYT1300Series
      @CorellianYT1300Series 8 років тому

      +Trent Hamilton And if you lock the 4th valve it'll make it the F-instrument rather than Bb.

    • @varatic644
      @varatic644 6 років тому

      Andreas Saluste really??nah

  • @isetta4083
    @isetta4083 Рік тому

    Devastated, since I was 13 I've always wanted to play a brass instrument, I've just ordered a Euphonium as my first brass instrument and am waiting for it to arrive, slightly distraught to learn it'll be very difficult to get a good sound out of, especially considering it's a very low end horn I've bought
    Closest thing I have to brass experience is that I was able to get a slight chromatic scale out of a tenor Trombone a few years ago, back then I used to try anything out. I never learned to read sheet music despite being an established Bassist and playing several other instruments

  • @libertariancapitalist
    @libertariancapitalist 8 років тому

    Have you ever played on a Griego CS5 mouthpiece?

  • @psylockeplayz5344
    @psylockeplayz5344 8 років тому

    I play Trumpet, Trombone, Tuba, and Tenor Saxophone........I'm pretty sure I can handle a Euphonium LOL. Great video!!

  • @maneatinggnomes3985
    @maneatinggnomes3985 7 років тому

    This guy is great #respect

  • @clarissakampe3565
    @clarissakampe3565 9 років тому

    I want one of those so damn bad

  • @markhorton3994
    @markhorton3994 5 років тому

    The place where Baritone, and Euphonium, really shone was the American Circus Band. In the 19th century French Horns were not able to play the required tempo so Baritone Horns were used. On that, this may have started before French Horns had valves. Also compare the tempo of the rock song based on "Entry of the Gladiators " to the real thing played by a High School band. The original circus version is as much faster than the school version as the school version is faster than the rock song. Take cut time and play it double time. With control, no rushing. Alas circus music is almost extinct. Those few shows that use live music are barely drum,trumpet and keyboard. Except for indoor tours where a producer uses mostly the same acts and bandmaster for a series of separate sponsored dates. If one sponsor wants to pay less some acts and musicians don't work that day. If one has a big budget more people are brought in for that weekend. But no one uses traditional "circus music " it is whatever the act is comfortable with. For High Wire I used Exodus, I am a Rock, One Tin Soldier, La Bicicleta, Brasil, drum rolls, and Impossible Dream. Later a bandmaster made me an arrangement (at a good price) that changed all the pieces. He was bandmaster on the show I was on and couldn't use either Exodus or Impossible Dream because he also did Ringling's arrangements and they put in his contract a prohibition on using any piece he used for them for anyone else for two years. So for my walk up the end of the wire he played, and sold me an arrangement for, "cable climb " a piece he had written for Manfred Duval on Ringling maybe 10 years before. He was apologetic, I was honored. Not only did the music fit better but I am not worthy to clean Manfred Duval's wire shoes.

  • @nolandecker2039
    @nolandecker2039 9 років тому

    I have the same exact one but it's caused me so many problems

  • @iplaybassoon1
    @iplaybassoon1 8 років тому +2

    I don't know what this guy is talking about, the trombone can achieve 5 octaves and so can the tuba an octave lower. And honestly the euphonium is really beginner friendly, having a just right mouthpiece size (not to big like the tuba and not to small like french horn) and it doesn't have a slide like trombone. And besides literally any wind instrument requires good air control. That's how it goes.

    • @_rami_745
      @_rami_745 8 років тому +1

      Nowhere NEAR 5 octaves. I have no idea what YOUR'RE talking about.

    • @_rami_745
      @_rami_745 8 років тому

      French horn could still go lower and higher than a trombone

    • @calebrettig1892
      @calebrettig1892 8 років тому

      It isn't considered beginner friendly because of the amount of control it takes to provide a good tone quality as well as the amount of control it takes to keep the instrument in tune. True every instrument takes air control, but some instruments are more forgiving in that area and the euphonium is not one of those instruments.

    • @mypantsareonfire420
      @mypantsareonfire420 7 років тому

      I am 14, and can achive 6 octaves plus a note with a normal mouthpiece.

    • @_rami_745
      @_rami_745 7 років тому

      Matt Whalen That isn't possible

  • @creamygamers2870
    @creamygamers2870 7 років тому

    I have been playing euphonium for 3 years now and I can pretty much playing anything my school has given me and I am the 2nd best in my band right behind my friend who is a trombone

    • @johnries5593
      @johnries5593 7 років тому

      Your friend is a trombone? Or is he/she a trombonist? The first is an instrument; the second is a person.

    • @creamygamers2870
      @creamygamers2870 7 років тому

      John Ries he is a trombonist that has played since he was 5 that's why he is so good

  • @FishingForLife28
    @FishingForLife28 3 роки тому

    I would say, that both the cornet player and the euphonium player alike is the best tecnical players in the brassband. Coming from a cornet player

  • @vanskid
    @vanskid 7 років тому +6

    Im 14 years old, 4'11, and 85 pounds.... And I dont have any problems with the air flow, I use a yamaha compensating 4 valve euph

    • @turtleguy403
      @turtleguy403 7 років тому

      Nice

    • @t-34mediumtank16
      @t-34mediumtank16 7 років тому

      Vanskid5 God you sound like me

    • @maneatinggnomes3985
      @maneatinggnomes3985 7 років тому

      Vanskid5 I still have the standard yep-201 they give us when we first start god dangit

    • @emjaymajor5299
      @emjaymajor5299 6 років тому

      I believe all the information provided, except for the fact that you said you had trouble with air flow, was not needed

  • @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
    @nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 9 років тому

    "Yet; despite the look on my face,
    You're still talking."

  • @TheBowtiedude
    @TheBowtiedude 9 років тому

    I believe you are correct on most information in this video, but some things are not correct. The note with all 4 valves down is actually a concert C, or at least it should be. And I tuned your video and it is. Also the fundamental of this instrument is actually the pedal Bb, it IS a real note. I'm pretty sure what I have stated is correct but feel free to tell me if you think otherwise. Beautiful horn!

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому

      TheBowtiedude The note with all four valves down should be a concert B natural, if in tune. The eupho could well have been out of tune. The fundamental of the instrument is Pedal Bb - correct. :)

    • @TheBowtiedude
      @TheBowtiedude 9 років тому

      hmm my tuba and euph tune to a concert C with all 4 valves, but they are non compensating, is that the reason? Im still learning a lot about brass instruments and i am pursuing a career in tuba performance.

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  9 років тому

      Yes, non-compensating valve systems will be at least a semi-tone sharp with all four valves down. All four valves down should be a concert B, meaning a fully chromatic range is available to the player.

  • @viharkhandhar3192
    @viharkhandhar3192 7 років тому

    My friend has a 4 valved euphonium and the valves r together not on the side

    • @viharkhandhar3192
      @viharkhandhar3192 7 років тому

      What type of euphonium is that

    • @euphgeek
      @euphgeek 7 років тому

      boss vids5115 That euphonium is most likely an intermediate model. The fourth valve is non-compensating and will not be able to play a pedal B-natural. However, it's good enough to keep the low C and B-natural in tune.

    • @bowserfan1011
      @bowserfan1011 7 років тому

      boss vids5115 some valves are on the top and sometimes it's in a 3+1 configuration where the 4th valve is on the side

  • @jimlowes7648
    @jimlowes7648 7 років тому

    How come you don't have any videos on French horn?

    • @TrentHamilton
      @TrentHamilton  7 років тому +2

      Because I don't have one. I have ordered one today, however, and will hopefully have some videos in the next month or so.

    • @BimboKatan
      @BimboKatan Рік тому

      because he has standards.

  • @doniedodo5690
    @doniedodo5690 5 років тому +1

    Every Country In da World : Euphonium
    Philippines (my country): American style Baritone Horn
    (CUZ American influence?)

  • @chrisdrybread8142
    @chrisdrybread8142 7 років тому +1

    I played trombone and euphonium and never used a base trombone mouth piece.

  • @Jarhead-ji3lq
    @Jarhead-ji3lq 8 років тому

    dude I started off on euphonium. same as a tenor trombone with a trigger.

  • @thomasrice4078
    @thomasrice4078 Рік тому

    most technically capable, oh I like that. Not a term normally attributed to me, but maybe someday.

  • @chrisblack2625
    @chrisblack2625 7 років тому +9

    Lol I like the "saxobone" the sax with trombone mouthpiece better

  • @zacharyregin9726
    @zacharyregin9726 6 років тому +1

    French horns have a similar range

  • @champyheteromer9946
    @champyheteromer9946 5 років тому +1

    im an euphonofonist and i dont think it's really that hard, maybe i've not got to the point where it gets hard? idk

  • @CornetBlues
    @CornetBlues Рік тому

    Omg is there anything about Brass Playing you don’t know?👏👏👏🎺🎶😂😂😂
    Awesome knowledge!.
    Hats off mate respect 👍
    Steven Mead is da man!👏👏👏🎶🎶🎶

  • @Jarhead-ji3lq
    @Jarhead-ji3lq 8 років тому

    you can work on some of the info but most of it is true. but the not beginniners instrument upseted me. love the channel dude keep it up.

  • @aaronberns8485
    @aaronberns8485 2 роки тому

    The euphonium. The king of the winds.

  • @ThomasJohnson-rj8cc
    @ThomasJohnson-rj8cc 8 років тому

    +Trent Hartman I play the baritone and it is basically the same thing as ephoneom. same notes, same fingerings

  • @jigjamz
    @jigjamz 7 років тому +8

    10:43 - You're welcome.

    • @jeffthememeslayer5096
      @jeffthememeslayer5096 7 років тому

      do you mean 10:42😲😲😲

    • @jigjamz
      @jigjamz 4 роки тому

      Jeff The Meme Slayer - nah 10:43 is all goods

  • @aftertheelectrike1847
    @aftertheelectrike1847 8 років тому

    The euph has that really lonely tone I like a lot more than I do the brighter toned baritone. ^^"

  • @verfuncht
    @verfuncht 7 років тому

    I play the trombone and find the euphonium quite easy in comparison.

  • @subninja8069
    @subninja8069 6 років тому

    Euphonium, not a beginners instrument Challenge accepted. BRING IT HORN!!!

  • @creamygamers2870
    @creamygamers2870 7 років тому

    I also started on the euphonium and when I put it together I played a perfect f without practicing so I don't know about it not being a beginner instrument