It's like playing chess against a pigeon. Doesn't matter how good at chess you are, the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces over, shit on the board and declare itself the winner and fly away.
If they knew Dave would say that then why does he need to say it? Maybe it's because they actually don't know he would say that, but only something like that?
@@danielyuan9862 nah, what they are trying to say us that he is predictable and use it to brush whatever he said off as if it’s wrong just because they knew he was going to say that
If they anticipated it accurately that someone probably will oppose their theory and if truly "They knew Dave would say that", then why didn't they answer it beforehand? (Dave's Questions and arguments)
"I'm not going to be doing any more of these, because I have better things to do." Oh, my sweet summer child. You had no clue what the next 5 years of debunking tomfoolery entailed.
Yup, that's the dunning kruger effect. When you just learned about something you are overflowing with confidence, than the more you learn about it truly, the more humble you get. it's more complicated than that though so google it up
@@Kday-tm8dj Because you have to ask UA-cam or sign some applications to get an verification. He probably hasn’t asked them yet or he didn’t meet the requirements to get a check mark
The thing about the “shooting a bullet at a lighthouse” thing that makes it so funny to me- for long-distance shooting, like military snipers, you actually *do* have to account for the Earth's rotation.
@@hamzamotara4304 I’m honestly not an expert, but it’s the Coriolis effect; on bullets fired from a gun, the effect is extremely slight but it is there. The deflection is minimal enough that it usually isn’t a factor, but for extremely long ranges, like over 400 yards, you do need to compensate for it.
@@BaphometGaming69 Makes sense. The momentum being conserved by the stationary objects is different due to the difference in rotational speed, so I imagine the inertial reference frame effectively becomes less valid as you stretch it North-South. However, across a couple of metres on a truck, it'd be very much negligible.
I failed physics but wow, these people really make me feel a lot better about my own intelligence edit: After a little over a year I feel it's worth mentioning that this was during the pandemic. I suffered from a pretty bad depressive episode and lost a lot of motivation to do well in school, and this class was the one that affected me the most. Normally I really enjoy science, but a bad teacher can certainly ruin a potentially enjoyable subject and crush your hopes and dreams about anything remotely concerning it. The physics teacher I had wasn't a good person and his teaching style was very incompatible with mine. I wasn't on a 504 or IEP, but it wouldn't have mattered anyways because my friends who have accomodations for their learning disabilities/chronic health issues who had his class mentioned that he didn't give accomodations and believed them to be unfair to other students. Obviously you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to offer accomodations for students who are eligible for them. I'm not too sure what the hell he was thinking, nor how he had been teaching for a past decade whilst thinking of all of the other past students who needed accomodations but never got them. In fact, he was so unempathetic during remote learning that he kept his already strict standards for grading. Many other classes had tried to make their grading more lenient because people had been struggling during remote learning, but him? Oh hell no. He failed nearly a quarter-third of our graduating class, and while I get that physics is a difficult subject, if a disproportionate amount of kids are failing your class or are even trying to purposefully avoid doing your work knowing how it wouldn't matter, there is a reason for that. There are other reasons why I *mildly dislike* my freshman year physics teacher: like I said, he wasn't a good person and he openly complained about his middle son in front of class and often used his children as frames of reference to compare our work to his. For context, I live in Massachusetts and we are required to take MCAS, which is our version of standardized testing, and pass it in order to graduate. If you score in an advanced range in all of your subjects, then you are eligible for a John and Abigail Adams Scholarship which provides tuition for up to eight semesters for undergraduate education in a Massachusetts state school. He made it a point that his other children had gotten the scholarship, except for his middle son. On a surface level, this just seems like something that was mentioned in passing, but it revealed a lot about him to me. Normally you shouldn't use your children as frames of reference for comparing your students' work to them. This was also what I only witnessed during the times I bothered to pay attention in his class; people in other classes had talked about how he'd call his middle son a disappointment. I went on a bit of a tangent there, as this was supposed to be more as to why I got a less than ideal grade in freshman physics, but it's something I feel very strongly about. Of course, I can't deny that my depressive episode wasn't a factor as to why I didn't get a good grade, (My grade for the year was actually a D-,. but I failed one of the quarters) but before then I had been a straight-A honors student and I've worked very hard to try and get my GPA back up to what it was. I've been driven by a lot of spite to be more successful than my physics teacher, but I know I have to let it go eventually. Being a straight-A student gives students a bit of a complex, and I heavily dislike how the school system elicits such competition within students which leads to lots of stress. At that point, school isn't necessarily about learning anymore, it's just a reflection of how hard you can work and get a good grade as a result. Failing physics made me feel like shit about my intelligence for a long time, which is why I said "make me feel a lot better about my own intelligence" as if I didn't think of myself highly in that aspect. So, moral of the story, if you are a teacher and you have a student that needs accomodations, FOLLOW THEM. Also, if you're a student and you have a crappy teacher, speak up about it with other people. Don't beat yourself up about your intelligence, as there are many other things that you excel at apart from that one subject you failed freshman year of highschool. If I can get through it, so can you.
Even if you failed a subject, you can still choose who's information about the subject you trust xD following the right people is a sign of intelligence as well, imo
Did you fail at equasions, or some harder theory, or what? Calculus/higher education is not for everyone. However, You know FACTSm such as planet curvature smakes you think that ship is going down into water. Or that In different hemispheres you see different starts rotating id different directions. Basic OBSERVATION. All it requires is simple LOGIC. Not some complex formulas to calculate values, etc...
@@Plusle843 to be fair, I was in a depressive slump while taking that class so it was difficult for me to focus and motivate myself to study lol. if I FORCED myself to pay attention then I could retain information, albeit for only a short period of time and since many subjects in physics overlap with each other, I kept struggling with it. I'd say I struggled both with the math portion and conceptual aspects of physics. it's just not my jam, I'm a lot better with biology and social sciences
@@Roozyj Where am I angry? I asked the guy where he failed. If he failed at harder courses there is no shame in that, difficult stuff is not for everyone. However, unlike flatearthers this guy could never fail at basic logic. Such as shortest distance is straight line, observation of different stars at night(observation), and common sense.
Flat earthers:You sound ridiculous!! Also flats earthers:It’s energy from the heavens Edit: For everybody in the comments arguing, whether heavenly energy is real or not is irrelevant, it’s purely the fact that they’re using something completely unprovable to justify their point
How to be flat earther 1. Dont graduate elementry 2. Say science does not actually exsist 3. Make up random stuff 4. When counter-argued againt made-up stuff, say what they are saying is silly 5. Think your correct and always correct even againt indisputible evidence
most of these cake eaters actually do graduate elementary school. In fact that is the only point on here that I vehemently disagree with, school makes one dumber and unimaginative not smart and creative. Having mentors who have been engaging in measurements ergo scientific methodologies are the only fair shot at understanding the universe and its secrets. The rest is Rockefeller sponsored garbage, including the flat earth cock suckery.
@@ronalddavisbrother,if you want some brutal sastification may i recommend you the wikipedia page describing the discrimination of such men in russia. Its a nice read!
"I didn't research flat earth enough" It's impossible to research flat earth, every flat earther has a different view on it and they almost always contradict each other
Every Man/Woman is entitled to their own opinions. Use your own senses and come to your own. Arguing about different opinions, solves nothing but does serve to prove that we have a lot to learn.
As much as they frustrate me, I have to admit that it's because of flat earthers that I'm constantly becoming more educated about physics, ecology, astronomy, and debate
The Globebusters are highly successful trolls, and fools like you and Dave fall for them so hard. Notice how no successful and self-respecting scientist, professor, or UA-camr bothers responding to flat-earthers. That's because they're smart enough to realize they're just trolls and they have better things to do with their time. I can tell from this one video that Dave is an amateur just by the fact he made a 45 minute video in response to UA-cam trolls. I also caught him making a foolish mistake when he implied there is no absolute frame of reference or that all motion is relative (these are merely unprovable assumptions that were purported by Einstein and are neither necessary nor implied by empirical evidence). Dave clearly needs to do more research to correct his biased misconceptions.
@@greg77389 At what point does a troll with millions of views become a detriment to society and general education? Is it ok for these trolls to go unchallenged if they are "confusing" millions of otherwise normal, albeit "less formally educated" people? It is a good thing to debate a so called "influencer" who is muddying the waters of science with pseudoscience.
And here's what you and here's what you didn't know my friend did you know that professor Dave is a consultant with some of the top aerospace defense contractors and a consultant to NASA and has got numerous grants in the aerospace industry wow you didn't know that did you it's all about what you know and how you just like that chick that does her show about no space what I found out that she works for a company that gives a grant from NASA to produce space documentaries now we can't have NASA hiring whack jobs can we NASA won't Yes Men not globe earthers after all they don't want to bite the hand that them
@@user-Ados-amerika Your English is absolutely awful. None of that changes the fact that Dave had completely dismantled the entire flat earth conspiracy, and you have absolutely no counter arguments against him. Please educate yourself and stop being a sheep to conmen
or "i don't understand this but i'll still use it as proof to support my bullshit" like timezones, airlines and light refraction. They don't understand a single thing they're talking about and that's why they're so convinced of all this.
They don’t even understand their own models. Most of these people are delusional, trying to move away from the obvious and like being contrary to everything that is right. It’s like a Christian stoped believing in God but still prays and goes to church. This are confusing times, and probably will get worse
The disc accelerating upwards is also a stupid model because if the flat earth is constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 then we would hit the speed of light on the 354th day.
Nope! It would get closer and closer to the speed of light but never actually reach it, after any amount of time. This is because of the way special relativity (which imposes the "light speed limit" in the first place) works. What you said only works if we ignore special relativity, which is sometimes fine to do when making approximations in the non-relativistic limit, but in this case we are very much working in the relativistic limit so ignoring special relativity will give wildly inaccurate results (such as a speed greater than lightspeed, as you have found). Don't get me wrong, the earth is definitely not a flat disk constantly accelerating in one direction at 1g, there are many flaws with this "model", but "the earth would eventually reach light speed" is not one of them.
@@extravagantpanda7962 I see. But even if we don't reach light speed, wouldn't travelling around the universe at 99.999999% the speed of light cause some visible changes? For example, is the solar system moving with us? Is the moon moving with us? How are constellations not changing on a per day basis if we are moving this fast across the universe.
@@flamingburitto you're not going to get a useful answer to those questions here, because the answers are too complex for this primitive forum. but the answers are well known
@@flamingburitto Oh for sure there are plenty of problems with the idea. It basically only makes any sense at all if you concede that are no planets, moons, stars, etc., it's all just lights on a dome above the earth (flat earthers already believe this nonsense anyway...). Then the earth would just be accelerating into empty space, so you wouldn't have to worry about whether the rest of the solar system etc. is traveling with the earth. This is obviously absurd though. There's probably 1000 problems with this "theory" lol, I was just pointing out that your initial calculation doesn't account for relativity and that the earth would never actually reach light speed after any amount of time.
It depresses me that people back in ancient times knew the earth was round, yet in modern times when we have the super advanced technology that further confirms this, people are suddenly denying it
there is another reason, importance. The conspiracy believers believe because they think they are special or something like that. And not all religion says the earth is flat Mark.
@@The_Logical_Gamer123 he was using religion in the sense that religion is more important to these people than science. These people may not be flat earthers directly because they read it in the bible, but they are most likely religious to some degree as that is one of the only things that make people ignorant of science and technology.
As i've heard, the origin of modern flat earthers was a group of people thought science was too complicated so they made their own, and in their findings, the earth was flat. they were not formally educated in any of these sciences. so literally, yes.
@@rayzimmermin First of all, please consider using punctuation in your writing. Second, I am not entirely sure what you are trying to prove here. I don't think he misunderstood the experiment at all. To me, it seems like he was generalizing, giving the most straightforward answer possible so people could understand easily. As you said, almost everyone knows about air resistance. So obviously that would affect the experiment. But the baseline thing he was trying to explain is that you still gain the momentum, but he never said other forces cannot affect that momentum. He was generalizing. And also to be fair, it's not like he was actually giving them a detailed guide on what to do, because chances are, they would ignore it completely and choose to keep believing what they believe anyway. The model of a pickup truck is purely a visualization in which the environment is perfect, such as him adding that the truck needs to stay at the exact same speed the entire time. Of course other phenomenon happen, but it's not worth going through them if it isn't needed. Air resistance doesn't directly refute the overall point he was making. And as I was saying, I don't understand what 'side' you are taking? You are nitpicking at one little detail that isn't hard to explain. The majority of people don't see something that someone missed or didn't mention and immediately attribute that to the person not understanding the concept of said thing. It is much more likely that he knows about it, and he just didn't mention it for the purpose of simplicity. Hope that makes sense? Sorry if I seemed rude throughout this explanation. EDIT: I looked at his recent comments. He somewhat seems like a redditor.
"It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray Great video dave, as always.
@@undercoveragent9889 ok first off where is your so called proof of higher rates of infection and secondly lets say that is true how does that have anything to do with this video?
@@undercoveragent9889 Meh... While it's good to question everything, most vaccines are perfectly safe at least as far as can be tested. To start with a personal story, my late father became severely sick as a child. He was sent home from the hospital at 4 years old because the doctors could do nothing else for him. He was given a 50/50 chance of reaching his 5th birthday. The cause of the illness was rubella, a disease that has been basically eradicated due to vaccines. He managed to beat those odds and survived an additional 65 years before he died, but rubella killed a lot of kids back in the day... there are old school diseases, now largely eliminated thanks to vaccinations, that us pampered modern western people can't possibly comprehend. All that said, there is never any reason to blindly accept any vaccine. If you don't want to take it, then don't. The current "epidemic" has a 99.98% survival rate among otherwise healthy individuals under the age of 60... so it's not nearly in the same league as rubella or polio. There is no one answer when it comes to this stuff. Every situation is unique and the individual should have the right to be the final arbiter or what does or doesn't go into their bodies.
As an ecologist, that abrupt demonstration of their lack of understanding of climatology and ecology did critical damage to my brain. I'm still not convinced that these people actually believe this stuff and aren't just elaborate trolls participating in a deep hobby of seeing how many people they can fool and how angry they can make scientists.
Many moons ago, we're talking 20+ years ago when the modern internet was just entering it's infancy, I met a flat earther. He was actually quite engaging and lighthearted about the whole concept... it was almost a * wink wink * thing. He was having fun with it, not so much caring about hardcore science... more a "question everything" vibe crossed with a late 1960s hippie / new age bullshit mentality. He didn't seem to take it too seriously, but his whole mantra was don't take anything too seriously.. question everything and keep an open mind. Fast forward 20 years and the movement warped into what appears to be the perfect storm intersection of delusional people and grifters.
Some are just trolls but some are genuine believers in this nonsense. This is obvious like with the flathearther, who built a rocket and died in a crash accident with that vehicle of his...but also recently due to the pandemic some famous flatearthers died due to covid because they denied medical science & help. When it comes to such madness I usually get aware why humanity fights senseless wars or why racism or antisemitism caused horrors and pogromes. Humans are just genuinely convinced to be always right and righteous to such a degree they even die senseless deaths or drag others into their own hubris & caused tragedies.
they are imbodiment of devil itself if you see nature of devil they are type of monster that intention deviate humanity from truthnot using critical thinking no matter what arguement they cast doubt and divide humanity thats true intention and end up quarell on each other till resort on worst thing.
@@control_the_pet_population i had a similar experience. found a group of people trying to make an absurd thing stick to prove that people will believe literally anything they read. they picked flat earth because it was so stupid that no one in their right mind would believe something so easily disproved. and here we are. decades later people are still falling to their meme.
For real though: it's a pity. I'd love to live for 20,000 years to see the precession. Or a few billion years to see Andromeda merging with our galaxy.
Why are they using the term 'hemisphere' anyways? The term literally translates to 'half ball'.
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Oh they're just trolling us, they know that to win the argument they've got to stoop to our level of misunderstanding and use terms we can understand 😂
What I'd like to know is why are things in the hemisphere called "asteroids" but things on your ass are called "hemriods",shouldn't it be the other way around?
Not a flatearther but, hemisphere means half, as one could refer to half a circle as the right or left hemisphere. Medicine uses to describe when, rather then removing a love from the brain; they remove one whole side/hemisphere. While typically hemisphere like posterior and anterior refer to 3D objects; one could draw a one dimensional object and designate one side the front and the other the back, or one side anterior and the other side posterior. If you decided this 2D object into two sides, front back or left right; you could refer to each half as a hemisphere.
As is typical these indoctrinated flatearthers don't understand but believe their uneducated views are true. Much like religion, these guys resort to personal attacks rather then provide evidence.
Much like the conspiracy nuts who claim school.shootings are being staged, those involved in such a hoax would be prone to sharing it with those close to them, and the more involved in said hoax and the grander the hoax; the more likely the truth would be revieled. As this channel owner points out, with so many individuals in so many fields of science participating in the supposed flatearth's conspiracies, it would be nearly impossible to not have the truth surface. I got vaccines for over 50 years, and have had no issues. These but jobs need to look up the history of vaccines to see how major cities across the US and world were overwhelmed by viruses like, yellow fever, smallpox, whooping cough, scarlet fever, polio, etc. We see less resistance in 3rd world countries over getting vaccines as, their people have grown up.seeing the negative results including death that not having a vaccine brings.
It’s really hard to watch so many people be so confidently wrong… I’m like 50% convinced that at least half of the flerfers don’t actually believe their own stuff, they’ve just never had friends or been a part of something before, and enjoy it so much they don’t want to lose it
I mean this is certainly part of it. If they disavow flat earth, they lose huge parts of their identity and social circle. That’s scary, and gives strong incentive to not change their view.
That's y they're ball shaped goard has a brain the size of a BB and they're flat round tires on they're vehicles are allways low on air, they had to suck it out of the valve stems to inflate they're big heads, and still LOOSE! 😂
Dave shows no mercy with these Flat Earth fools. 🎃 Absolutely love this channel, the content is very well done and imo an excellent educational resource. The entire world benefits from investing in Scientific literacy and encouraging youth to discover S.T.E.M fields of study. I’m of the strong opinion that the fate of the world and future survival of the human race will require a major leap forward in our technology. We are in desperate need of alternatives to fossil fuels to save our planet from human caused climate change.
It has already been 100% proven in real world experiments that the earth is flat and stationary. Have you watched "The Next Level 2022" from Martin Liedtke?
@@randomguyonyoutube5875 nonononono you missed some steps *opens video *"oh hey another one of those idiots" *pauses video before it shows anything *dislikes *leaves
It’s because the gravity’s ecosystem effects the sun’s coriolis between the hypotenuse of UA-cam’s diffractionictory standards. It’s all there in nasa’s handbook in agreement with the League of Nations.
Without a spinning nickel/iron core in the centre of a sphere there can be no earth's magnetic field. And with no magnetic field there is no North Pole or South Pole. There is no navigation by compass because there is no North Pole for the compass needle to point to. So magnetism requires a sphere. End of.
@@petergaskin1811 More specifically, magnetism requires a rapidly rotating sphere or oblate spheroid with a flowing liquid mantle around a solid iron core exciting electrons in order to generate and emit that magnetic field. Mars has a liquid iron/nickel core, and technically that core spins with the planet. That said, it has no liquid mantle and thus has no magnetic field. While the mantle of mars may be hot enough to be ductile or even flow, it doesn't flow with enough intensity to excite electrons in and near the liquid metal. Without this, it won't emit an electromagnetic field. This field would deflect solar radiation and protect the gaseous atmosphere. In the absence of a strong magnetic field, there is no protection for the gaseous atmosphere. Which is why it has very little atmosphere.
I feel kinda dumb cuz I actually never knew how magnets worked and I felt too embarrassed to ask anyone or even Google it just because I was scared of being discovered for not knowing how magnets worked. Thankfully I finally had the tldr version in a comment lol
Wonderfully demonstrated with the sheer and absolute stupidity of.. Pretty much every flat-Earther on this planet that hasn't realized they're following a massive hoax, Globebusters included
So not to be that guy but, as an electrician, how do you know the properties of electromagnetism and it relationship to any sort of physics what so ever? I am genuinely asking as I’m not an electrician but didn’t think they needed a degree in physics to be one. A healthy understanding of maths is enough.
@@jarrydharris5378 I don't have a degree in physics but i have a pretty good understanding of what electromagnetism is and how it is created. Considering electricians schooling and work (depending what field you work) largely involves working with electric motors, we need to understand the theory and properties of electromagnetism quite well. Also the generation of electricity relies on the same properties of electromagnetism. So i'd say we have to have a pretty good understanding of how it works.
well it makes the fact that they accuse Dave of using "big words" to sound impressive even funnier. bc they use very big words, don't know what they mean and just insist that it is what it is.
@@jarrydharris5378 To be an electrical engineer all of this is part of the course, Plus industrial Electricians work with induction heating, Sensors and motors, Setting up a full flux vector inverter drive would be completely beyond any flurf.
So I checked. As far as I know, this is the first episode with the modern haircut. This was the episode that split the classical and modern Dave. The modern haircut symbolizes that he means BUSINESS to these science deniers. This is where the good professor became a legend.
ive debated flat earthers, and their argument against Cavendish is literally "there was no independent variable". they are sick people with nothing but scripts.
Makes no sense, since the experiment can be replicated by anyone. If they want to disprove it, they should just run the experiment and observe the results. If gravity between the masses isn’t seen, they win. Simple. Right? 🤦
The difference in approach: Dave: Goes into details with formulae and models with the reasons why the Earth is a sphere, while at the same time goes into details about why the Earth cannot be flat. Flat Earthers: Don't use or prove any formulae, come up with differing models that cannot be used at once, but mostly just pick on a theory, don't explain it properly and then with a patronising chuckle say they don't understand it and therefore it is silly and therefore the Earth is flat. It is beyond stupid.
oh, most flat-earthers i've encountered pick ONE abysmally stupid excuse to deny realty and keep mindlessly repeating it over and over like a bot: "gravity is fake! density makes thing fall! you must believe me because i drive a BMW!" "water proves earth flat!" "Lucifer told me earth is flat!" "NASA lies old NASA documents say earth is flat!" "earth is flat because i'm the leader of a gang that breaks into bookstores and burns books on EVILution!" i'm not making this up, those are all VERBATIM from comments on Dave's other videos!
@@flatearththeorylegitglobet3673 Idk if you're using the sarcasm card, but godamn imagine involving god in a debate, that's just outrageous i think instead of having that mindset have a mindset like me "until is see it with my own eyes i'll believe it" (even tho there's litelarry thousands of footage taken from outside of the earth showing it is in a circular shape)
@@Sauju726 Imagine believing in a god of love that punishes you for not worshiping him. Kills innocent children. Commits genocide on a global scale. The same god that created all the evil elements in the entire universe.
@@robertwidmer4367 I don't believe nor i believe on god but i think if there is a god i think it's not the god's fault because were a living thing that makes choices good, neutral or bad, blame those who created this scociety instead
If you have time, can you explain exactly what CGI and VFX are? Like, i heard CGI is 3d modeling and VFX could be drawn, or did i just described it as a flat earther would
@@sudak9150 CGI is basically computer generated Imagery, so it could encompass more than, but including VFX. Basically anything created in a computer for an image or visual. VFX is the integration of digital elements into live-action footage. So for example Avengers is VFX, and CGI. Toy Story or Shrek are not VFX, but are CGI. That's because the images are 100% computer generated. The actors only provide the voice acting. Hope that helps!
“Astrophysics isn’t a real science because you can only observe it” seriously the whole idea of the earth being flat came from one observation: the horizon appeared “flat”
Flat earther : “this makes no sense, it’s stupid. That means it’s not real” Dave : *proceeds to show and explain the experiments that prove them wrong* Flat earther : “nuh-uh that’s dumb”
And the hilarious part is, just to prove a flat earther wrong all you gotta say is "OK can you prove that right now with a real experiment?" to everything they say until they get frustrated and leave.
How to debunk anything flat earthers claim in three seconds: "That's stupid." At least if flat earthers think "That's stupid." is a valid argument. You know, turnaround is fair play. As for Globebusters the only thing Professor Dave would have needed to show was that "Energy of the heavens." and "Luminous aether." since they completely lost all credibility with that.
Except he over used it. So much so that it was distracting. While I enjoy him slamming flat-brainers, he needs to utilize the vocabulary that Im certain that he holds
@@jay-rus4437 ACTUALLY he asks incredible specific proof over and over but it doesn't matter if he uses jargon or an expansive vocabulary because they're going to say "yeah whatever" which is said to him by one of these dufusus
I really cannot believe there are millions of people who think like these Globebuster guys, I just cringe in second hand embarrassment. I love how easy it is for you to shut down every single argument of theirs
@@leejames929 they just love conspiracy theories and think every single thing we’ve been taught is a lie including the globe earth 😂 it makes them feel special and smart I guess to disagree with everything and make up their own explanations
@@caleforcewinds Agreed....like cmon Dude At that point karens Even tho not much smarter Like Do Actully Argue Over smth its stupid but atleasr they only shout:, *Gimme manager* But flat earthers are like; Everything is a lie*
Flat-earthers think that if you go there, you just die by penguins that are holding guns or some shit. But 1. why do penguins NOT have digits (i.e. fingers and thumbs)?, 2. just search up what jobs are there at Antarctica, and 3. why would the U.S. (or whatever) protect Antarctica? At first glance, it's just ice all around you
God this Flat Earthers are stupid didnt learn anything they just look throught youtube and say taht is the answer didnt even bother looking for more research or news if its really correct or not
@@felixwinter3173 Please believe me when I tell you that the vast majority of 10 year olds are much more intelligent than an extremely bright _flaturtha._
fucking hell that Bob Knodel guy actually triggered me, they should just send them into space with a 30 minutes of oxygen so the last thing they see is the GLOBE they lived on..
Dave: “I have years of research, experience and photographic evidence to prove the earth it a geoid. What do you guess have?”. Flat Earther: “I ran on a train..........”
Well explain no transitional fossils and that carbon dating can not be used on fossils because of the flood that happened on earth and we asked professors this same question ua-cam.com/video/U0u3-2CGOMQ/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/qHRYnm_J4ts/v-deo.html
@@MichelBiesot Well to explain it in the most baby, beginner, 5th-grade science class way. The "bending" of spacetime is known as time dilation, it's basically a phenomenon where time will move slower for somebody who is in motion relative to another person. Now, at speeds that we humans can travel right now, that difference is basically nothing, the one exception being astronauts on the ISS in which time moved approximately 1 second slower to them than on the surface of the earth. Now to have time differences that are noticeable, the observer to which time dilation is happening would have to be traveling at speeds approaching the speed of light, so I'll do that. Using the time dilation equation which is t = t0/(1-v2/c2)1/2, in which t = the time observed by the observer who is stationary, t0 = the amount of time that has passed to the observer in which time dilation is occurring to/the observer that's in motion, v = the velocity/speed of the observer that's in motion, c = the speed of light in a vacuum. in our problem let's say that v = 0.95c (95% of the speed of light), and t0 = 10 years. you'll get t = 10/ (1- (.95c)2/c2)1/2, and if we do some math that I'm positive you will not understand you'll then get 10 divided 0.312 = t, and since 10/.312 = about 32, the difference equals about 32 years. The same kind of thing happens when you are near a black hole for an extended period of time, like in the movie Interstellar, where 1 hour on the exo-planet equals 7 years on earth. If you're looking for something else, I'll be happy to attempt to explain it to you, but if you decide to be ignorant and discredit a hundred years of research like it's nothing. Then that's not my problem.
@@MichelBiesot lol he was repeating what that flat earth moron said to demonstrate that he's a moron. Professor Dave said "spacetime" and the globe busters said "space and time" then went on the say "not sure how you can bend time, etc" showing they have no clue what they're talking about. Spacetime isnt just time, it's both space and time and treated as one. Also it can be bent or curved by gravity. If your a flat earther like I suspect then gravity doesn't exist to you and this doesn't matter anyways.
@@MichelBiesot To cite Einstein who wrote his general theory of relativity in 1915, who found a new way to describe gravity. It was not a force, as Sir Isaac Newton had supposed, but a consequence of the distortion of space and time, conceived together in his theory as 'space-time'. Any object distorts the fabric of space-time and the bigger it is, the greater the effect. Like your question this response will have absolutely no effect on your position as you are nothing more than a primitive little liar for baby jesus who finds 21st c knowledge utterly terrifying. Ah! men.
@Joce C You know what, this is insane, that anti-vaccine-themed channels are taken down and flat-earth-themed channels are not. At least anti-vacciners have *some* arguments grounded in statistics and facts, while flat-earthers have literally none.
@@wojciechsura You make it appear to be as though those with freewill are evil. Who the hell is anyone to force anything upon anyone?! Oh wait, fascists. We as a species are out of balance ⚖️. Too far to the left you have loss of Liberty and too far to the right you have loss of liberty. "Our earthly masters don't give a damn about you, your family or your destiny with God, all that they have ever cared about is ruling the whole damned world 🌎"
@@shaman9628 Our world is being attacked by a worldwide disease that is deadly to the masses and could threaten us for the rest of time if we don't do anything about it. If you say it's fake, you're going to spread the disease of both misinformation and, well, the worldwide disease. There. If you weren't brought to the bidding of the leaders, it's because I'm not a leader, and either way, I warned you. Plus, it should work if you're a normal person too, and I can tell it did not work. The whole quote has been debunked.
@@DoYou-NotSee Oh please do explain. I love it when they come comment on a video that clearly illustrates how stupid they are. This is going to be fun.
If I had a nickel for every time Dave has to say "Sorry!" I'd have enough money to fund a flat-earther cruise to Antarctica to show them that the ice wall doesn't exist.
Nah, they don't like to be made aware that there is a world outside of America and that NASA is not some supranational organization that is present everywhere
@@jojolafrite90 hey if the show makes enough money we could possibly get the money we spent sending them their back! And we could make them go to high earth orbit to make more money!
the problem isn't thinking the world is flat or round. The problem is the people who believe the world is flat inevitably start talk about jewish conspiracies, illuminati, etc, because it all fits together. Once a person believes one absurdity they will start to believe every absurdity.
@@Entomology314 That's the problem. And since proof against the conspiracy is taken to be by the nebulous organization the more paranoid these people get. It never ends.
@@Entomology314 flat earth is a TERRIBLE gateway conspiracy, its only reserved for those who are extremely gullible, will not do any due dilligence, and are lacking a lot of basic fundamental knowledge regarding the natural world. 9/11 conspiracies are much better, they are much more convincing (maybe its true??).
Don't give them the satisfaction of referring to any of their notions as "theories." They are hair-brained hypotheses at best, and sheer and utter lunacy at worst.
@@turkepic3637 Not trolls, but like any other sort of religion, you gotta fake it till you make it. They 'want to believe', but believing takes effort.
@@homelessrobot eh. Most flat earthers are attention seeking trolls so thats why I said that. Of course some legitimately believe in their arguments which is... sad , to say the least.
Flat Earthers: "You refuse to rely on your own observations." Me: "I observe curvature at the horizon." Flat Earthers: "Oh no, that one is just an anomaly. Atmospheric refraction." Me: "Presents next observation." Flat Earthers: "Oh, that's just an anomaly too but a completely different one, that only explains that one observation." Rinse. Repeat. Me: "I observe that one theory explains all my other observations and the other theory requires almost all my observations be explained away by specific anomalies (that often contradict other 'anomaly' explanations)." Flat Earthers: "Oh, that's just an anom... wait..." Me: "I observe that you tell me to rely on my own observations to 'disprove the lie of a round earth', then tell me to ignore most of my observations." Flat Earthers: *Blank stare* Me: "I observe that not only do your anomaly explanations, as well as most of your explanations and theories, contradict each other, but the fundamental argument of relying on my own observations is counter to your beliefs." Flat Earthers: "No. You don't get it. You're ignorant." Me: "I observe that when you run out of counterarguments, you resort to insulting and never explaining." Flat Earthers: "I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, you are too stupid!" Moron-to-English Translation: Flat Earthers: "I'm out of ideas but refuse to concede that I should even so much as examine my views or even parts of them. Instead of doing something that might confirm my errors, I'll exit the debate in a desperate and stupid way, by calling you stupid! Thus preserving my ego, avoiding conceding the blatantly obvious intellectual defeat and neatly avoiding having to actually learn anything. This will buy me enough time to find someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to debate me, who I can talk at to falsely pad my fragile intellectual ego.""
how come some round earthers say that you can see the curvature of earth on the horizon at ground level, but some say you can only see the curve in space
@@nig_card Not everyone is educated. Some people that know the Earth is spherical don't know the scientific why and/or how to explain it. The same lack of knowledge that enables flat-earthers to exist is still present throughout the population. The space thing (specifically) is a misconception, or rather, an exaggeration. If we start at the very basic, no matter the shape of the Earth, we can all agree that at a certain height, you would be able to see that shape. Space is easily far enough, so people say things like "You can see the curvature from space." That can then easily be misquoted or misinterpreted as "You have to be in space to see the curvature." The first is true but the latter isn't. Fighter pilots frequently report the Earth round when questioned on this topic. Obviously, they are reaching heights that are enough to see the shape, but it's not space. Space is just an easily definable/understandable concept of a distance from the surface that is *at least* far enough to see the shape. As a result, it often gets misquoted as being the threshold for that visibility, but this threshold is much lower. As for seeing it from ground level, that's something that requires a specific setting. I can't see anything that informs me of the shape of the Earth on my morning commute. All I can tell you from the view out of my car is that the Earth is covered in undulating terrain that changes constantly and provides no indication of the Earth's overall shape for me to know one way or another. That said, when I stand on the lookout of a small cliff near my home, overlooking the ocean, spanning 180 degrees of the view before me, I can see far enough, with flat enough features that I can see an overall shape. I'd think, if you don't leave near a coast, it would be very difficult to find a horizon line that was far enough away to tell one way or another. That doesn't support flat Earth, that just tells us nothing either way!
@@nig_card Explain why you can't see Northen star in southern hemisphere. Simple, right? Any model to explain it? And explain day/night and seasons simultaneously? Thought not flattard lol.
It’s hilarious how easy it is to be a conspiracy theorist. You don’t have to prove anything, you don’t have to disprove anything, you don’t even need to have internally consistent logic. Any time anything goes against your beliefs, just say “that’s fake and you’re in on it!”
According to the HAL-9000 in the book (not the movie) 2001: A Space Odyssey, 2+2= approximately 4.10101010. Of course, HAL was malfunctioning at the time.....
@@liam9722 Some preconceived notions can be verified as valid via observations and experimental evidence. Other preconceived notions such as flat Earth, religion e.t.c, cannot. It's unwise to just follow a preconceived notion without checking it's validity for oneself otherwise one could be open to deception.
@ Shandy Torok, I’m sorry but a 100 year old article accounting the circumstantial, un repeatable eye witness account of one man who has a limited understanding of the topic he is covering and was probably experiencing hypoxia at the time doesn’t count as evidence. Just because you have a PhD in one topic doesn’t mean you are qualified to make permanent observations on all fields of study. As you said, Piccard is a physics PhD not a geology or astronomy PhD, and this experiment was a physics demonstration not a astronomy or geology one. If you did your research you would find that he later retracted his statement after clearly viewing the curvature of the earth and is widely considered today to be the first person to ever see the curvature of the earth. Don’t come at me with that “do your research” bullshit when you don’t do research at all. Just because you read one article doesn’t mean you are now some science god who must destroy all false information. What is that confidence effect he talked about in the video, where people with limited understandings of topics tend to blow their understanding out of proportion, I forgot the name but you are the same as the globe busters, you don’t actually understand what we are talking about but you think you do because you read one article that said “NASA bad” and saw one model that had some cool flashy and blinky lights and though “yeah, I’m a genius”. You’re like a toddler, you get impressed by the dumbest shit. Die.
@ Shandy Torok wait so now I don’t even exist, wait what, I though I existed, damn guess I gotta go tell my family that I’m not real. If nasa doesn’t exist than who is guarding the super secret “Ice Wall”. And no, eye witness testimony is not timeless, ask any court or lawyer or judge or jury. If nasa doesn’t exist than how do all those nasa employees get paid, or what do all those nasa scientists do all day, just sit and do nothing. If nasa didn’t send a rocket to Neptune, than what was mission control doing for 12 years, just sitting there making free money? If nasa doesn’t exist than how did I get a summer internship there via the naval academy??? Oh yeah, that’s right, nasa brainwashed me while I was an intern and made me into a nasa loving shill. 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I can stand a lot of things, and I have no problems with these dumb flat earthers. But when they try to impose their ridiculous theories and beliefs upon normal people and call normal people stupid when in fact they are the stupid ones, and just be outright rude to us, that's when my rage meter goes from 0 to super saiyan instantly.
There are definitely a number of the highest visible members of this "community" who know full well that what they're saying is untrue. But for whatever reason, they continue the narrative which others believe. My best hypothesis is there is a deep desire for notoriety, fame, or fortune that leads them to continue the lies, but little things like this still slip through when they aren't 100% focused on their false narrative. Evidence of these clear lack of belief has been seen in many videos and interviews of the "leaders" of flat earthers in the form of deception tells that anyone who has studied microexpressions can easily identify.
@Ma Rk you should always ask for examples and data. Nothing wrong with this request at all. Let's go off of this video: ua-cam.com/video/1gHbwT_R9t0/v-deo.html And I apologize for anything that may come across as misleading, as I don't want to put a dozen links here, but I'll list some timestamps for that video and the deceit expressions being shown and discuss the psychology behind those expressions. 1) 0 minutes, 25 seconds - this individual shows a classic deceit expression of small shakes of the head back and forth when they don't believe what they're saying (this can come in the form of complete opposite beliefs or just believing something they're saying is untrue). 2) 0 minutes, 40 seconds - leaning back, wide-eyed expression. Usually combined with a broad or outlandish statement, this is an attempt to override a feeling of absurdity. Similarly to when peoples' eyes will often go wide when they are shocked about something, this same trait is showing through during this man's claim. 3) 0 minutes, 52 seconds - looking up and to the right combined with a distraction/fidget action. This is either an attempt to make up a lie on the spot or remember a specific lie. 4) 1 minute, 7 seconds - this one is very small and very hard to catch if you're not looking for it, and you may need to replay several times. After the interviewer names the man as "father" of the movement, there is a micro raise of the left corner of his mouth (his left, not ours). This is a sign of an attempt to hide happiness or glee. Often times connected with the belief that they are getting away with something (although not always). 5) 1 minute, 17 seconds - repeat of #3. 6) 1 minute, 26 seconds - repeat of #3 (slightly harder to see, given the angle of the camera, but you can see his right eye movement from the profile view). 7) 2 minutes, 50 seconds - locked eye contact, intensified stare, slight lean forward of body position - this is less a deceit microexpression and more of a sales-pitch style psychology. The man is actively trying to engage the reporter in what he is discussing (alone, this would not be enough evidence to determine deceit. The individual could just be very determined.) 7) 2 minutes, 50 seconds - phrasing use. Initially throwing out easily agreeable ideas and at the end of the third concept (simple rule of three psychology), a twist is provided. In this case it's the added on "seems to be gravity" phrase at the end. And of course moved forward before a question to be asked about that choice of phrasing, so it stays connected to the agreed upon facts before it. 8) 3 minutes, 35 seconds - condescending smirk. You'll notice this when the camera cuts to his face after the man says "pretty sure" about how the Earth looks. This is a blatant deceit marker that isn't even small enough to be a microexpression. He fully believes that his lie is being believed. 9) 3 minutes, 36 seconds - inhibition of phrasing, shaking head while speaking affirmation. This is very common when someone suddenly feels they may have pushed too far with a lie. They walk it back, and then proceed to show the age old inversion of action and word. In this case, the continued "saying" that he agrees while his head shakes side to side, meaning no - he does not actually agree. This is one of the most common and easily visible deceit expressions. 10) Slightly off topic, but if you look at 5 minutes, 29 seconds for comparison, this man clearly believes everything he is saying. Of course this doesn't mean he's right about the information. But being wrong and lying are not the same thing. Compare and contrast his expressions, eye contact, and body language against the original primary interviewee, and you will see a great deal less forced engagement, worried eye movement, and contradictory expressions between words and body language. These are just examples from an edited series of interviews. While I cannot say that based on this data specific individuals must believe as a whole whether or not the Flat Earth Movement is a sham, I can say for certain when individuals were and were not lying. That said - the more time you get to see someone, the more expressions you can pick out. And the ability to pick these out on the fly while talking with them is vastly harder than reviewing video recordings. So if anyone knows of a long-form interview with one of these or other individuals who are leaders in the Flat Earth Movement, I'd love to take a look and give my analysis and determinations! Edited to make the time references more clearly separate from the video this comment is posted on, as they are referencing the video in the link at the top of this comment.
@The Infidel I mean, you're not wrong in general, but since all Flat Earth "models" have the North Pole at the center, then that determination doesn't actually fit?
@The Infidel on the off-chance you're not being wilfully obtuse. On a FE map of the world, Antartica is a ring at the circumference of the circle, not a region to the south (or bottom, if you like). So, from the FE perspective, you don't go *down* to Antartica, you go outward.
Dave: *mentions proven scientific facts* Flat Earthers: Haha, you're so simple dave! You're wrong, this is what I believe because it makes a lot of sense to me.
@Stuffstuffington Stuff they amplify their own voice whether we ignore them or not. This video isn’t about them. It’s about reaching the people vulnerable to their kool-aid before they do.
@Stuffstuffington Stuff if you ever had to listen to them for hours every single day carry on about all the crazy they believe you'd understand why it is important to try and stop it from spreading. They try really hard to convert people and it does work for them to some degree. There numbers are slowly growing at my work.
Once, I was on a plane and the stewardess came by with a cart of snacks and drinks. As she took her hands off the cart in order to hand out drinks, the cart suddenly rocketed down the aisle at an astonishing speed of 600 miles per hour and blew the back end of the plane right off! I awoke with a start and said, thank goodness it was just a dream. Conservation of momentum is real, guys!
You were on a(n) (air)plane that was on a smallish landmass which was surrounded by water? How did the drink cart get off the plane onto the isle? Where was the rocket engine mounted? Did the cart reach 600mph immediately, or did the speed increase over the duration of the burn?
"It took 1800 years for someone to get in a boat and go West." Yet flat earthers can't do that exact thing to find their "Ice Wall" in this day and age and with much better ships, go figure.
@@jenniferreyes2865 i've really heard one flattard say "atmoplane" in her video. "tem skeptic" gave her an extra "ding" on his "idiot meter" every time she said it.
This whole conversation in a nutshell: Globebusters: sorry Dave, but we already pictured ourselves as the chads and you as the virgin in this meme, therefore we won the argument
And don't forget the condescnding giggles and bringing up random tidbits of information that doesn't prove anything they claim or disprove anything Dave says.
@@isaacmoore6803 Even if it were 15k people compared to the population of the earth you could round it off to zero. Which when you consider how few people even care about the shape of the earth it makes the whole vast conspiracy to hide it seem even more absurd. The thing is conspiracy theorists are perfectly fine accepting the absurd but easily ignore/reject all credible evidence suggesting otherwise.
It's like playing chess against a pigeon. Doesn't matter how good at chess you are, the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces over, shit on the board and declare itself the winner and fly away.
Excellent analogy. I hope you write comedy material for stand-ups.
@@jezzatakla that was definitely a quote.
@@dainland432 Thanks. I'm so gullible P'raps I ought to be a Flat-Earther. Only joking.
@@dainland432 Bummer. Why am I so gullible? Thanks
Where are you finding a pigeon that can declare itself the winner? I want a talking pigeon
i like how their only counter-argument is to say “i knew you would say that dave”
If they knew Dave would say that then why does he need to say it? Maybe it's because they actually don't know he would say that, but only something like that?
@@danielyuan9862 nah, what they are trying to say us that he is predictable and use it to brush whatever he said off as if it’s wrong just because they knew he was going to say that
"We can't allow that, Dave..."
We knew you were going to say 2+2=4 dave!
If they anticipated it accurately that someone probably will oppose their theory and if truly "They knew Dave would say that", then why didn't they answer it beforehand? (Dave's Questions and arguments)
"I'm not going to be doing any more of these, because I have better things to do."
Oh, my sweet summer child. You had no clue what the next 5 years of debunking tomfoolery entailed.
😂
@@ProfessorDaveExplains happy to have you still debunking fools, by the way! I've learned a lot as a layperson.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains still responding to comment 5 years later 😮
Hey Dave, do you have a link to the video of globebusters original attempt at a rebuttal?
@@teagangrable7131 they deleted it
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts. While the stupid ones are full of confidence." -Charles Bukowski
Yup, that's the dunning kruger effect. When you just learned about something you are overflowing with confidence, than the more you learn about it truly, the more humble you get. it's more complicated than that though so google it up
Blah blah blah ,we are all ignorant !
@@markdemell6087 sure but it is degrees of ignorance + intentions towards correcting or propagating that ignorance
@@chandini241 Things will sometime come to a head and the truth will come out ,until then I am just trying to survive.Take care .Amein.
@@markdemell6087 huh?
one things flat earthers can't explain
1. flat earth
you're god damn right
true lol " you had one job "
lmao true
@Fen Vulpeus ah, okay, that makes sense
@Fen Vulpeus see its a globe
Man, I wish “quantum calculations” were fake. That semester of P-chem was brutal.
Eklectic!
How aren’t you verified?
yo eklektik didn’t realize you were back
Love your vids!
@@Kday-tm8dj Because you have to ask UA-cam or sign some applications to get an verification. He probably hasn’t asked them yet or he didn’t meet the requirements to get a check mark
Neutron stars must be jealous of how dense flat earthers are
I'm really finding some good jokes here, thanks!
reminds me of a Dilbert comic where the "pointy-haired boss" turned into a black hole because he was so dense.
Yes
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This was awesome !!!
The thing about the “shooting a bullet at a lighthouse” thing that makes it so funny to me- for long-distance shooting, like military snipers, you actually *do* have to account for the Earth's rotation.
But inertia?!
@@hamzamotara4304 I’m honestly not an expert, but it’s the Coriolis effect; on bullets fired from a gun, the effect is extremely slight but it is there. The deflection is minimal enough that it usually isn’t a factor, but for extremely long ranges, like over 400 yards, you do need to compensate for it.
@@BaphometGaming69 Makes sense. The momentum being conserved by the stationary objects is different due to the difference in rotational speed, so I imagine the inertial reference frame effectively becomes less valid as you stretch it North-South. However, across a couple of metres on a truck, it'd be very much negligible.
and the buttet gravity which is real but littie cuz bullet are SPEEDY and dont get affected for long
For artillery fire, very significant corrections can be needed.
I failed physics but wow, these people really make me feel a lot better about my own intelligence
edit: After a little over a year I feel it's worth mentioning that this was during the pandemic. I suffered from a pretty bad depressive episode and lost a lot of motivation to do well in school, and this class was the one that affected me the most. Normally I really enjoy science, but a bad teacher can certainly ruin a potentially enjoyable subject and crush your hopes and dreams about anything remotely concerning it. The physics teacher I had wasn't a good person and his teaching style was very incompatible with mine. I wasn't on a 504 or IEP, but it wouldn't have mattered anyways because my friends who have accomodations for their learning disabilities/chronic health issues who had his class mentioned that he didn't give accomodations and believed them to be unfair to other students. Obviously you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to offer accomodations for students who are eligible for them. I'm not too sure what the hell he was thinking, nor how he had been teaching for a past decade whilst thinking of all of the other past students who needed accomodations but never got them.
In fact, he was so unempathetic during remote learning that he kept his already strict standards for grading. Many other classes had tried to make their grading more lenient because people had been struggling during remote learning, but him? Oh hell no. He failed nearly a quarter-third of our graduating class, and while I get that physics is a difficult subject, if a disproportionate amount of kids are failing your class or are even trying to purposefully avoid doing your work knowing how it wouldn't matter, there is a reason for that.
There are other reasons why I *mildly dislike* my freshman year physics teacher: like I said, he wasn't a good person and he openly complained about his middle son in front of class and often used his children as frames of reference to compare our work to his. For context, I live in Massachusetts and we are required to take MCAS, which is our version of standardized testing, and pass it in order to graduate. If you score in an advanced range in all of your subjects, then you are eligible for a John and Abigail Adams Scholarship which provides tuition for up to eight semesters for undergraduate education in a Massachusetts state school. He made it a point that his other children had gotten the scholarship, except for his middle son. On a surface level, this just seems like something that was mentioned in passing, but it revealed a lot about him to me. Normally you shouldn't use your children as frames of reference for comparing your students' work to them. This was also what I only witnessed during the times I bothered to pay attention in his class; people in other classes had talked about how he'd call his middle son a disappointment.
I went on a bit of a tangent there, as this was supposed to be more as to why I got a less than ideal grade in freshman physics, but it's something I feel very strongly about.
Of course, I can't deny that my depressive episode wasn't a factor as to why I didn't get a good grade, (My grade for the year was actually a D-,. but I failed one of the quarters) but before then I had been a straight-A honors student and I've worked very hard to try and get my GPA back up to what it was. I've been driven by a lot of spite to be more successful than my physics teacher, but I know I have to let it go eventually. Being a straight-A student gives students a bit of a complex, and I heavily dislike how the school system elicits such competition within students which leads to lots of stress. At that point, school isn't necessarily about learning anymore, it's just a reflection of how hard you can work and get a good grade as a result. Failing physics made me feel like shit about my intelligence for a long time, which is why I said "make me feel a lot better about my own intelligence" as if I didn't think of myself highly in that aspect.
So, moral of the story, if you are a teacher and you have a student that needs accomodations, FOLLOW THEM. Also, if you're a student and you have a crappy teacher, speak up about it with other people. Don't beat yourself up about your intelligence, as there are many other things that you excel at apart from that one subject you failed freshman year of highschool. If I can get through it, so can you.
Even if you failed a subject, you can still choose who's information about the subject you trust xD following the right people is a sign of intelligence as well, imo
Did you fail at equasions, or some harder theory, or what? Calculus/higher education is not for everyone. However, You know FACTSm such as planet curvature smakes you think that ship is going down into water. Or that In different hemispheres you see different starts rotating id different directions. Basic OBSERVATION. All it requires is simple LOGIC. Not some complex formulas to calculate values, etc...
@@Plusle843 Wow, you sound angry
@@Plusle843 to be fair, I was in a depressive slump while taking that class so it was difficult for me to focus and motivate myself to study lol. if I FORCED myself to pay attention then I could retain information, albeit for only a short period of time and since many subjects in physics overlap with each other, I kept struggling with it. I'd say I struggled both with the math portion and conceptual aspects of physics. it's just not my jam, I'm a lot better with biology and social sciences
@@Roozyj Where am I angry? I asked the guy where he failed. If he failed at harder courses there is no shame in that, difficult stuff is not for everyone. However, unlike flatearthers this guy could never fail at basic logic. Such as shortest distance is straight line, observation of different stars at night(observation), and common sense.
One problem, Dave. How can you burst their flat-earther bubbles when their bubbles are not spheres?
oh dang
gottem
Good question 🤣 they think the earth is flat, and everything else is rounded 🤣
It's a flat bubble Duh
Not "Flat Earthers" -- they should be called two-dimensional BALLS.
Flat earthers:You sound ridiculous!!
Also flats earthers:It’s energy from the heavens
Edit: For everybody in the comments arguing, whether heavenly energy is real or not is irrelevant, it’s purely the fact that they’re using something completely unprovable to justify their point
Oy I believe in round earth and the fact you said that heavenly forces are ridiculous following to your metaphor offends me
@@Butterphotography YOURE FLAT EARTHER
@@mewmew8932 I'm not flat earther
@@mewmew8932 I'm an rocket scientist
@@Butterphotography "an (consonant starting word)"
How to be flat earther
1. Dont graduate elementry
2. Say science does not actually exsist
3. Make up random stuff
4. When counter-argued againt made-up stuff, say what they are saying is silly
5. Think your correct and always correct even againt indisputible evidence
7. mock, Insult and condescend profusely
8. "D a v e >:("
most of these cake eaters actually do graduate elementary school. In fact that is the only point on here that I vehemently disagree with, school makes one dumber and unimaginative not smart and creative.
Having mentors who have been engaging in measurements ergo scientific methodologies are the only fair shot at understanding the universe and its secrets.
The rest is Rockefeller sponsored garbage, including the flat earth cock suckery.
sounds like the hundreds of genders crowd
@@ronalddavisbrother,if you want some brutal sastification may i recommend you the wikipedia page describing the discrimination of such men in russia. Its a nice read!
"I didn't research flat earth enough"
It's impossible to research flat earth, every flat earther has a different view on it and they almost always contradict each other
Kinda sounds like religions, doesn't it?
@@viddork Yep.
It's impossible to do any research on a flat earth, BECAUSE it does not exist.
Every Man/Woman is entitled to their own opinions. Use your own senses and come to your own. Arguing about different opinions, solves nothing but does serve to prove that we have a lot to learn.
@@RichfromVirginiaBeach People are entitled to their own opinions, not their own facts.
Fun saying I heard once:
Biology is really chemistry.
Chemistry is really physics.
Physics is really math.
Math is really hard.
Thanks for the chuckle
Defeatist humor
How degenerative
@@rashoietolan3047 what
@@rashoietolan3047 Nope. Just Humor. Grow up and get a life.
@@bobbart4198 how does rasho saying that... Suggest he is not old enough or doesnt have a life? It is humor , it is defeatist and degenerative...
As much as they frustrate me, I have to admit that it's because of flat earthers that I'm constantly becoming more educated about physics, ecology, astronomy, and debate
At least flat earthers have a positive outcome: to show the world how we, as human beings, should NOT be!
My wife was frustrated that I was listening to basic physics and astronomy vs flat-tard logic. I told her that I was learning while laughing.
Yeah, I actually watch these videos for the sole purpose of having a better understanding of physics. It kinda helps.
The Globebusters are highly successful trolls, and fools like you and Dave fall for them so hard. Notice how no successful and self-respecting scientist, professor, or UA-camr bothers responding to flat-earthers. That's because they're smart enough to realize they're just trolls and they have better things to do with their time. I can tell from this one video that Dave is an amateur just by the fact he made a 45 minute video in response to UA-cam trolls. I also caught him making a foolish mistake when he implied there is no absolute frame of reference or that all motion is relative (these are merely unprovable assumptions that were purported by Einstein and are neither necessary nor implied by empirical evidence).
Dave clearly needs to do more research to correct his biased misconceptions.
@@greg77389 At what point does a troll with millions of views become a detriment to society and general education? Is it ok for these trolls to go unchallenged if they are "confusing" millions of otherwise normal, albeit "less formally educated" people? It is a good thing to debate a so called "influencer" who is muddying the waters of science with pseudoscience.
My big question is - if the Earth is flat and therefore must have 2 sides, what's on the other side ? Why has no one explored it yet?
the other side is where the evil democrat jew nazi lizards lair is and that's why they lie to us about the earth
/s
it's on the back of a turtle :D
oh, a flat-earther once told me that earth is sitting on top of "a giant cylinder of Dark Matter."
@@ericb3157 seems legit, so basically we are all flushing down the drain on a disk full of sh*t 😌
@@benjaminjones8782 Dear god...... Kanye west's birthplace 😱 /if you think this isn't a joke I'm sending you to detroit
To be completely fair the flat earthers made a very compelling point when they said “maybe I’m just a stupid flat earther.”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was stupidly correct as well! Lol
Sacrasmception
And here's what you and here's what you didn't know my friend did you know that professor Dave is a consultant with some of the top aerospace defense contractors and a consultant to NASA and has got numerous grants in the aerospace industry wow you didn't know that did you it's all about what you know and how you just like that chick that does her show about no space what I found out that she works for a company that gives a grant from NASA to produce space documentaries now we can't have NASA hiring whack jobs can we NASA won't Yes Men not
globe earthers after all they don't want to bite the hand that them
@@user-Ados-amerika Your English is absolutely awful. None of that changes the fact that Dave had completely dismantled the entire flat earth conspiracy, and you have absolutely no counter arguments against him. Please educate yourself and stop being a sheep to conmen
Their response to everything: "electromagnetism, DAVE." the way they said Dave made me chuckle.
@OwO *ThE eLeCtRoMaGnEtIsM*
Their*
@@Good9tTo9t sorry simple mistake
@@kabirvariava4031 wow you actually corrected the mistake that's a first
It kind of reminds me of HAL from 2001 a space odyssey, I'm sorry Dave I can't do science
this video is a painstaking roller-coaster of losing and regaining brain cells
Just like meth👌
I saw a video of globe busters, I lost 10000000 braincells, I did not have any brai cells, so I have a negetive amount of braincells
@@pumpkin8222 Are you ok? A negative amount doesn't seem healthy, seems like you will create a space-time vortex
I think it would create more a flat earth moron then something else because they spawn from nothing
Fools i'm immune to such nonsense sine i already poses a iq in the negative
When the globebuster sarcastically said “maybe thats just because I’m a stupid flat earther” it was the only time he was right and it was by accident
Thanks Bob.
99% of the flat earther's arguments are: I dont understand this therefore it must be impossible
Completely ignoring the fact that you would have to understand it to know if it was impossible.
or "i don't understand this but i'll still use it as proof to support my bullshit" like timezones, airlines and light refraction. They don't understand a single thing they're talking about and that's why they're so convinced of all this.
99% of religious people, we cannot explain this, therefore god
@Harry Davey no there isn’t.
They don’t even understand their own models. Most of these people are delusional, trying to move away from the obvious and like being contrary to everything that is right. It’s like a Christian stoped believing in God but still prays and goes to church.
This are confusing times, and probably will get worse
The best line of the video, "I am sorry that astronomical events don't conform to your lifespan"
@@Bnslamb stupid autocorrect. I spelled it wrong and it just changes it on my phone. Always reread your comments on your phone. LOL I fixed it.
ya, love that line XD
Honestly sounds like a deep quote from a science fiction novel or something said by a robot to a human
I didnt live during ww2 so it cant be real no way to prove it :p
“That dosent make them fake”
"The universe consist of electrons, neutrons, protons and morons."
😂😂
Nice one i heard it before from autochess but it still made me chuckle
All from flat earthers
Can I print that on a t-shirt?
@Robbierobot574 And a ton of "DORK" matter !!!
The disc accelerating upwards is also a stupid model because if the flat earth is constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 then we would hit the speed of light on the 354th day.
Nope! It would get closer and closer to the speed of light but never actually reach it, after any amount of time. This is because of the way special relativity (which imposes the "light speed limit" in the first place) works. What you said only works if we ignore special relativity, which is sometimes fine to do when making approximations in the non-relativistic limit, but in this case we are very much working in the relativistic limit so ignoring special relativity will give wildly inaccurate results (such as a speed greater than lightspeed, as you have found). Don't get me wrong, the earth is definitely not a flat disk constantly accelerating in one direction at 1g, there are many flaws with this "model", but "the earth would eventually reach light speed" is not one of them.
@@extravagantpanda7962 I see. But even if we don't reach light speed, wouldn't travelling around the universe at 99.999999% the speed of light cause some visible changes? For example, is the solar system moving with us? Is the moon moving with us? How are constellations not changing on a per day basis if we are moving this fast across the universe.
@@flamingburitto you're not going to get a useful answer to those questions here, because the answers are too complex for this primitive forum.
but the answers are well known
@@flamingburitto Oh for sure there are plenty of problems with the idea. It basically only makes any sense at all if you concede that are no planets, moons, stars, etc., it's all just lights on a dome above the earth (flat earthers already believe this nonsense anyway...). Then the earth would just be accelerating into empty space, so you wouldn't have to worry about whether the rest of the solar system etc. is traveling with the earth. This is obviously absurd though. There's probably 1000 problems with this "theory" lol, I was just pointing out that your initial calculation doesn't account for relativity and that the earth would never actually reach light speed after any amount of time.
Light would be so blue-shifted that red lights would look green. @@flamingburitto
It depresses me that people back in ancient times knew the earth was round, yet in modern times when we have the super advanced technology that further confirms this, people are suddenly denying it
3 things: religion,importance,and youtube grift (money)
there is another reason, importance. The conspiracy believers believe because they think they are special or something like that. And not all religion says the earth is flat Mark.
@@The_Logical_Gamer123 actually i dont think a single religion says the earth is flat
@@aqua1313in my religion,we Muslims are agree with the many things of science.but I don't know about bible actually says about flat earth 🤔🤔.
@@The_Logical_Gamer123 he was using religion in the sense that religion is more important to these people than science.
These people may not be flat earthers directly because they read it in the bible, but they are most likely religious to some degree as that is one of the only things that make people ignorant of science and technology.
"we don't understand science so you people who do must be wrong"
-every flat earther ever
As i've heard, the origin of modern flat earthers was a group of people thought science was too complicated so they made their own, and in their findings, the earth was flat. they were not formally educated in any of these sciences. so literally, yes.
@@rayzimmermin First of all, please consider using punctuation in your writing. Second, I am not entirely sure what you are trying to prove here. I don't think he misunderstood the experiment at all. To me, it seems like he was generalizing, giving the most straightforward answer possible so people could understand easily. As you said, almost everyone knows about air resistance. So obviously that would affect the experiment. But the baseline thing he was trying to explain is that you still gain the momentum, but he never said other forces cannot affect that momentum. He was generalizing. And also to be fair, it's not like he was actually giving them a detailed guide on what to do, because chances are, they would ignore it completely and choose to keep believing what they believe anyway.
The model of a pickup truck is purely a visualization in which the environment is perfect, such as him adding that the truck needs to stay at the exact same speed the entire time. Of course other phenomenon happen, but it's not worth going through them if it isn't needed. Air resistance doesn't directly refute the overall point he was making.
And as I was saying, I don't understand what 'side' you are taking? You are nitpicking at one little detail that isn't hard to explain. The majority of people don't see something that someone missed or didn't mention and immediately attribute that to the person not understanding the concept of said thing. It is much more likely that he knows about it, and he just didn't mention it for the purpose of simplicity.
Hope that makes sense? Sorry if I seemed rude throughout this explanation.
EDIT: I looked at his recent comments. He somewhat seems like a redditor.
@@f1shb0nes72 I've always thought it was a trolling attempt that got out of hand 🤣
@@rayzimmermin Use punctuation you dimwit
Also Who cares + ratio + tldr
@@rayzimmermin Oooh, you're so smart.
Now try it in a closed vehicle without air resistance.
"It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray
Great video dave, as always.
@@undercoveragent9889 Do you have proof of the claim that "the higher the vaccination rate, the higher the rate of infection"?
@@undercoveragent9889 ok first off where is your so called proof of higher rates of infection and secondly lets say that is true how does that have anything to do with this video?
@@undercoveragent9889 Whataboutism at its finest.
@@undercoveragent9889 ..........................................
@@undercoveragent9889 Meh... While it's good to question everything, most vaccines are perfectly safe at least as far as can be tested. To start with a personal story, my late father became severely sick as a child. He was sent home from the hospital at 4 years old because the doctors could do nothing else for him. He was given a 50/50 chance of reaching his 5th birthday. The cause of the illness was rubella, a disease that has been basically eradicated due to vaccines. He managed to beat those odds and survived an additional 65 years before he died, but rubella killed a lot of kids back in the day... there are old school diseases, now largely eliminated thanks to vaccinations, that us pampered modern western people can't possibly comprehend.
All that said, there is never any reason to blindly accept any vaccine. If you don't want to take it, then don't. The current "epidemic" has a 99.98% survival rate among otherwise healthy individuals under the age of 60... so it's not nearly in the same league as rubella or polio. There is no one answer when it comes to this stuff. Every situation is unique and the individual should have the right to be the final arbiter or what does or doesn't go into their bodies.
So if Flat Earth physics are real,
..couldn't I backwards longjump?
Probably
You wouldn't even have to. Just jump straight up and you would do a backwards long jump.
Speedrunner Mario sounds*
*Excited yahooyahoyayayahooooyahohoyaho noises*
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As an ecologist, that abrupt demonstration of their lack of understanding of climatology and ecology did critical damage to my brain. I'm still not convinced that these people actually believe this stuff and aren't just elaborate trolls participating in a deep hobby of seeing how many people they can fool and how angry they can make scientists.
Many moons ago, we're talking 20+ years ago when the modern internet was just entering it's infancy, I met a flat earther. He was actually quite engaging and lighthearted about the whole concept... it was almost a * wink wink * thing. He was having fun with it, not so much caring about hardcore science... more a "question everything" vibe crossed with a late 1960s hippie / new age bullshit mentality. He didn't seem to take it too seriously, but his whole mantra was don't take anything too seriously.. question everything and keep an open mind. Fast forward 20 years and the movement warped into what appears to be the perfect storm intersection of delusional people and grifters.
Some are just trolls but some are genuine believers in this nonsense. This is obvious like with the flathearther, who built a rocket and died in a crash accident with that vehicle of his...but also recently due to the pandemic some famous flatearthers died due to covid because they denied medical science & help. When it comes to such madness I usually get aware why humanity fights senseless wars or why racism or antisemitism caused horrors and pogromes. Humans are just genuinely convinced to be always right and righteous to such a degree they even die senseless deaths or drag others into their own hubris & caused tragedies.
they are imbodiment of devil itself if you see nature of devil they are type of monster that intention deviate humanity from truthnot using critical thinking no matter what arguement they cast doubt and divide humanity thats true intention and end up quarell on each other till resort on worst thing.
@@control_the_pet_population i had a similar experience. found a group of people trying to make an absurd thing stick to prove that people will believe literally anything they read. they picked flat earth because it was so stupid that no one in their right mind would believe something so easily disproved. and here we are. decades later people are still falling to their meme.
Same
"I'm sorry that astronomical phenomenon don't conform to your lifespan. It doesn't make it fake."
Just my favorite line.
For real though: it's a pity. I'd love to live for 20,000 years to see the precession. Or a few billion years to see Andromeda merging with our galaxy.
I literally saw this right before he said it
@@FriedrichHerschel yeah would be some cool scenery
@K ne You, my man, have good priorities!
@David Emblow "The Bible teaches us," no David, it doesn't.
Why are they using the term 'hemisphere' anyways? The term literally translates to 'half ball'.
Oh they're just trolling us, they know that to win the argument they've got to stoop to our level of misunderstanding and use terms we can understand 😂
What I'd like to know is why are things in the hemisphere called "asteroids" but things on your ass are called "hemriods",shouldn't it be the other way around?
Not a flatearther but, hemisphere means half, as one could refer to half a circle as the right or left hemisphere. Medicine uses to describe when, rather then removing a love from the brain; they remove one whole side/hemisphere. While typically hemisphere like posterior and anterior refer to 3D objects; one could draw a one dimensional object and designate one side the front and the other the back, or one side anterior and the other side posterior. If you decided this 2D object into two sides, front back or left right; you could refer to each half as a hemisphere.
As is typical these indoctrinated flatearthers don't understand but believe their uneducated views are true. Much like religion, these guys resort to personal attacks rather then provide evidence.
Much like the conspiracy nuts who claim school.shootings are being staged, those involved in such a hoax would be prone to sharing it with those close to them, and the more involved in said hoax and the grander the hoax; the more likely the truth would be revieled. As this channel owner points out, with so many individuals in so many fields of science participating in the supposed flatearth's conspiracies, it would be nearly impossible to not have the truth surface. I got vaccines for over 50 years, and have had no issues. These but jobs need to look up the history of vaccines to see how major cities across the US and world were overwhelmed by viruses like, yellow fever, smallpox, whooping cough, scarlet fever, polio, etc. We see less resistance in 3rd world countries over getting vaccines as, their people have grown up.seeing the negative results including death that not having a vaccine brings.
It’s really hard to watch so many people be so confidently wrong…
I’m like 50% convinced that at least half of the flerfers don’t actually believe their own stuff, they’ve just never had friends or been a part of something before, and enjoy it so much they don’t want to lose it
It's basically the adult version of a teenager rebelling. They are proving the man wrong.
I mean this is certainly part of it. If they disavow flat earth, they lose huge parts of their identity and social circle. That’s scary, and gives strong incentive to not change their view.
So basically, it's a cult
This is a big part of the conspiracy brain phenomenon.
It wouldn’t be far-fetched to say that Dave _flattened_ them.
That's just a roundabout way of saying it...
That's y they're ball shaped goard has a brain the size of a BB and they're flat round tires on they're vehicles are allways low on air, they had to suck it out of the valve stems to inflate they're big heads, and still LOOSE! 😂
@@aeternusdoleo4531 Thank you for making a quality comment on this god forsaken website.
@@johnbonner5284 Why are you here
Badoom ching
Intellect has its limits, stupidity is boundless.
Lucian haha so true
@I Coroa "Earth's spherical concave" Please explain that
Also Please explain how straight-line geodetic survey proves "Earth's spherical concave"
@I Coroa ua-cam.com/video/5xc-rNOISQE/v-deo.html
@@Atomchild www.reddit.com/r/woooosh/
Yes, if there are any limits to human stupidity I'd like to know what they are!
I lost my shit multiple times. Your wit is incredible. Thanks for the content Dave
why the donation?
@@abxy_real_official_since2020 for support
@@obsidian1364 O_O
I am a clown
Dave shows no mercy with these Flat Earth fools. 🎃 Absolutely love this channel, the content is very well done and imo an excellent educational resource. The entire world benefits from investing in Scientific literacy and encouraging youth to discover S.T.E.M fields of study. I’m of the strong opinion that the fate of the world and future survival of the human race will require a major leap forward in our technology. We are in desperate need of alternatives to fossil fuels to save our planet from human caused climate change.
It has already been 100% proven in real world experiments that the earth is flat and stationary. Have you watched "The Next Level 2022" from Martin Liedtke?
The sad reality is *99%* of flat earthers will never even watch this video.
@My Internet sucks
Did they WATCH the video, though? Or did they click solely to dislike it?
@@enderthedark5843 *opens video
*dislikes the video
*gone
Heh nice
@@randomguyonyoutube5875 nonononono you missed some steps
*opens video
*"oh hey another one of those idiots"
*pauses video before it shows anything
*dislikes
*leaves
Too bad there’s like, 100?
It’s clear to see why comments are disabled on all their videos.
same with likes/dislikes
Because they are fucking morons...
It’s because the gravity’s ecosystem effects the sun’s coriolis between the hypotenuse of UA-cam’s diffractionictory standards. It’s all there in nasa’s handbook in agreement with the League of Nations.
They don’t like to discuss
THE WORLD IS A LIE! I AM ARCHIMEDES! GET OUT OF MY BATHTUB!
I love how their argument boils down to: “fuckin magnets, how do they work.”
Without a spinning nickel/iron core in the centre of a sphere there can be no earth's magnetic field. And with no magnetic field there is no North Pole or South Pole. There is no navigation by compass because there is no North Pole for the compass needle to point to. So magnetism requires a sphere. End of.
@@petergaskin1811 More specifically, magnetism requires a rapidly rotating sphere or oblate spheroid with a flowing liquid mantle around a solid iron core exciting electrons in order to generate and emit that magnetic field. Mars has a liquid iron/nickel core, and technically that core spins with the planet. That said, it has no liquid mantle and thus has no magnetic field. While the mantle of mars may be hot enough to be ductile or even flow, it doesn't flow with enough intensity to excite electrons in and near the liquid metal. Without this, it won't emit an electromagnetic field. This field would deflect solar radiation and protect the gaseous atmosphere. In the absence of a strong magnetic field, there is no protection for the gaseous atmosphere. Which is why it has very little atmosphere.
I feel kinda dumb cuz I actually never knew how magnets worked and I felt too embarrassed to ask anyone or even Google it just because I was scared of being discovered for not knowing how magnets worked. Thankfully I finally had the tldr version in a comment lol
@@Kafka_Garezerra yeah if your mom saw that in your search history😬
@@thehandsomeknight9449 Wouldn't be the most embarrassing thing to see in my search history, but would still suck lol
Dave’s Arguments: Actual phenomenons, proof, and experiments, backed up by science and history
Flat Earther Arguments: *Just trust me bro*
Also flat earther arguments when Dave appears: heheh, HA, TAKE A LOAD OF WHAT THIS GUY IS SAYING!
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray cinespia.
Wonderfully demonstrated with the sheer and absolute stupidity of..
Pretty much every flat-Earther on this planet that hasn't realized they're following a massive hoax, Globebusters included
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain
Oh god no hope that’s not a real one
Overused but true
It’s just near impossible because they never stop
As an electrician, I love hearing them going off about electric fields and electromagnetism. Really is amazing how little they understand.
Most under-rated comment
So not to be that guy but, as an electrician, how do you know the properties of electromagnetism and it relationship to any sort of physics what so ever? I am genuinely asking as I’m not an electrician but didn’t think they needed a degree in physics to be one. A healthy understanding of maths is enough.
@@jarrydharris5378 I don't have a degree in physics but i have a pretty good understanding of what electromagnetism is and how it is created. Considering electricians schooling and work (depending what field you work) largely involves working with electric motors, we need to understand the theory and properties of electromagnetism quite well. Also the generation of electricity relies on the same properties of electromagnetism. So i'd say we have to have a pretty good understanding of how it works.
well it makes the fact that they accuse Dave of using "big words" to sound impressive even funnier. bc they use very big words, don't know what they mean and just insist that it is what it is.
@@jarrydharris5378 To be an electrical engineer all of this is part of the course, Plus industrial Electricians work with induction heating, Sensors and motors,
Setting up a full flux vector inverter drive would be completely beyond any flurf.
Flat earther: "Correct me if I'm wrong."
Things flat earthers should never say.
Ironically it is what gets them hits on their channels and put's money in their pockets. That's exactly what they want.
People are stupid (flat earthers)
*CORRECTS THEM*
Dave did correct him, but it fell on deaf ears! 😂
“Sure, I can do that whenever you need me to”
So I checked. As far as I know, this is the first episode with the modern haircut. This was the episode that split the classical and modern Dave. The modern haircut symbolizes that he means BUSINESS to these science deniers. This is where the good professor became a legend.
Nevermind
im a dumbass
and i think the italian tutorials were recorded long before they were released
“The best thing about being dead is that you don't know about it. It's like being stupid - it's only painful for others.”
Ricky Gervais
yes
Roflmao
If you're loved being dead could be painful for others, but you wouldn't know that :) So maybe you're the dumb hypocrite? hmmm. Yes, indeed I suppose.
“Maybe it’s because I’m a stupid flat earther”
Well you don’t gotta call yourself out like that
Probably the one time I agreed with a flat earther
"Oh thank god I didn't wanna say it myself"
Believing in a flat earth is like believing in a god. It's a mental illness. Simple.
Yeah they don't have to call them selves that, that's why we exist to call them that
I love how their counter argument for the Cavendish experiment was literally “Yeah, whatever”
ive debated flat earthers, and their argument against Cavendish is literally "there was no independent variable". they are sick people with nothing but scripts.
Makes no sense, since the experiment can be replicated by anyone. If they want to disprove it, they should just run the experiment and observe the results. If gravity between the masses isn’t seen, they win. Simple. Right? 🤦
That's their version of "God did it..."
Memento mori
ua-cam.com/video/pJ-7kbaHUgM/v-deo.html
I haven't seen this yet but it looks like it might be trying to debunk it.
The difference in approach:
Dave:
Goes into details with formulae and models with the reasons why the Earth is a sphere, while at the same time goes into details about why the Earth cannot be flat.
Flat Earthers:
Don't use or prove any formulae, come up with differing models that cannot be used at once, but mostly just pick on a theory, don't explain it properly and then with a patronising chuckle say they don't understand it and therefore it is silly and therefore the Earth is flat.
It is beyond stupid.
oh, most flat-earthers i've encountered pick ONE abysmally stupid excuse to deny realty and keep mindlessly repeating it over and over like a bot:
"gravity is fake! density makes thing fall! you must believe me because i drive a BMW!"
"water proves earth flat!"
"Lucifer told me earth is flat!"
"NASA lies old NASA documents say earth is flat!"
"earth is flat because i'm the leader of a gang that breaks into bookstores and burns books on EVILution!"
i'm not making this up, those are all VERBATIM from comments on Dave's other videos!
Imagine getting personally, mentally, emotionally, socially, physically attacked just because someone called the earth round
@@flatearththeorylegitglobet3673 Idk if you're using the sarcasm card, but godamn imagine involving god in a debate, that's just outrageous i think instead of having that mindset have a mindset like me "until is see it with my own eyes i'll believe it" (even tho there's litelarry thousands of footage taken from outside of the earth showing it is in a circular shape)
@@flatearththeorylegitglobet3673 why would you bring religion to a debate about science
@@Sauju726 Imagine believing in a god of love that punishes you for not worshiping him. Kills innocent children. Commits genocide on a global scale. The same god that created all the evil elements in the entire universe.
@@robertwidmer4367 I don't believe nor i believe on god but i think if there is a god i think it's not the god's fault because were a living thing that makes choices good, neutral or bad, blame those who created this scociety instead
@@flatearththeorylegitglobet3673 the only thing that is flat is your brain
Flat Earthers: "The globe makes no sense!"
Also Flat Earthers: "IT DOES THIS STUFF BECAUSE LITERALLY MAGIC!"
Witty Euphemism hahahahaha energy of the heavens, my god!
Too much Dungeons and Dragons 😂😂
nonsense as a concept to imprison the minds of billions of people it is work of genius
Magic is real, it's called science though
Magic is real... the Earth, however is a globe.
As a VFX artist, I love when flat-earthers try to talk to me about CGI.
As a person (functioning brain and stuff), I love when flat-earthers try to talk.
If you have time, can you explain exactly what CGI and VFX are? Like, i heard CGI is 3d modeling and VFX could be drawn, or did i just described it as a flat earther would
@@sudak9150 CGI is basically computer generated Imagery, so it could encompass more than, but including VFX. Basically anything created in a computer for an image or visual.
VFX is the integration of digital elements into live-action footage.
So for example Avengers is VFX, and CGI.
Toy Story or Shrek are not VFX, but are CGI. That's because the images are 100% computer generated. The actors only provide the voice acting.
Hope that helps!
@@countchoculitis1528 thank you!
@@countchoculitis1528 This was very insightful,thank you for your post.
I just came here to laugh at flat earthers but I didn’t know that was how summer and winter worked.
These vids are super informative. I don't watch to laugh at flat earthers (personally), I watch to learn stuff
It requires some pre-requisite knowledge to understand why nonsense is nonsense, and Dave is a really good teacher on such subjects.
"Arguing with a smart person is hard. But arguing with an idiot is impossible" that's why we don't argue with flat earthers.
That's a Quote for History
*argues with an idiot anyways*
Don't call flat earthers idiots
It's offensive to idiots
@@joanniebacus I-
What about "DAVE"? He just did and he won
“Astrophysics isn’t a real science because you can only observe it” seriously the whole idea of the earth being flat came from one observation: the horizon appeared “flat”
Very true
@Joce C I hope this happens quicker one day I've worked with 8 people this year who are flat-earthers I hope they get better.
@@dragconen they probably won’t, it’s important to make sure they don’t spread their false information though, that’s the only way to stop the lies
@@jamsistired define gravity dickhead
Astrophysics is all theoretical dickhead.There’s no science in it clown
Flat earther : “this makes no sense, it’s stupid. That means it’s not real”
Dave : *proceeds to show and explain the experiments that prove them wrong*
Flat earther : “nuh-uh that’s dumb”
There is something more infinite than the universe
Flat earthers stupidity
nuh uh bro 😂
And the hilarious part is, just to prove a flat earther wrong all you gotta say is "OK can you prove that right now with a real experiment?" to everything they say until they get frustrated and leave.
How to debunk anything flat earthers claim in three seconds: "That's stupid."
At least if flat earthers think "That's stupid." is a valid argument. You know, turnaround is fair play.
As for Globebusters the only thing Professor Dave would have needed to show was that "Energy of the heavens." and "Luminous aether." since they completely lost all credibility with that.
I make no sense. I'm stupid. Am I not real?
"Personal domes" is just about the funniest and stupidest thing I've ever heard of
My personal dome has unicorns and rainbows and lollipop trees.
Time to name my stars suckadick and sunburnlover
@@philhogan5623 Really?! My dome is filled with doubt, misery, and overdue bills. I got ripped off.
@@philhogan5623uhh
are you pyro?
@@nameless...................... W reference
“If you don’t understand that, that’s not my problem” is the best retort ever
Unfortunately, this doesn’t often apply when talking about a pandemic :(
Except he over used it. So much so that it was distracting. While I enjoy him slamming flat-brainers, he needs to utilize the vocabulary that Im certain that he holds
On another video he says if you can't provide proof anything different, then you should seriously consider shutting up forever.
@@jay-rus4437 but it's no use it's like trying to explain quantum physics to a baby, these people are extremely uneducated, manipulative and ignorant.
@@jay-rus4437 ACTUALLY he asks incredible specific proof over and over but it doesn't matter if he uses jargon or an expansive vocabulary because they're going to say "yeah whatever" which is said to him by one of these dufusus
How are they using terms like "HemiSPHERE" and "AtmoSPHERE" while trying to imply that the earth is FLAT ?!
Oh my god, there is no need for long theoretical discussion. This is all they need. I laughed so HARD
HemiFlat and AtmoFlat?? 😂😂😂 it sounds really dumb
@@MrNobo15 Well their entire idea sounds really dumb... but they still believe it xD
Because they are all idiots.
because they are all dome shaped
I really cannot believe there are millions of people who think like these Globebuster guys, I just cringe in second hand embarrassment. I love how easy it is for you to shut down every single argument of theirs
I still have no idea how you end up becoming a flat earther. I still think most of them must be trolls
@@leejames929 they just love conspiracy theories and think every single thing we’ve been taught is a lie including the globe earth 😂 it makes them feel special and smart I guess to disagree with everything and make up their own explanations
I just like listening to people who don’t know what they are talking about
@@caleforcewinds Agreed....like cmon Dude At that point karens Even tho not much smarter Like Do Actully Argue Over smth its stupid but atleasr they only shout:, *Gimme manager* But flat earthers are like; Everything is a lie*
Only last week did I learn there are people that still believe earth is flat.
When talking about Antarctica, why do flat-earthers say "go down there?" Doesn't Antarctica surround the disc in their so-called model?
Flat-earthers think that if you go there, you just die by penguins that are holding guns or some shit. But 1. why do penguins NOT have digits (i.e. fingers and thumbs)?, 2. just search up what jobs are there at Antarctica, and 3. why would the U.S. (or whatever) protect Antarctica? At first glance, it's just ice all around you
90% of their argument boils down to calling something "stupid."
The other 10% is saying, "Dave" in a condescending tone...
Poor Dave.
Well said
Yeah DAVE!
God these people are so stupid, the earth is OBVIOUSLY a cube
Your dad is stupid 😂 they are 💯🤡
I wanted to joke but I couldn't talk about your dad and his connection to stupidity.
Funny how he's basically explaining basic physics to a bunch of 40 year old men
So funny it's sad.
God this Flat Earthers are stupid didnt learn anything they just look throught youtube and say taht is the answer didnt even bother looking for more research or news if its really correct or not
40 year old men with the intelligence of a 10 year old.
@@felixwinter3173
Please believe me when I tell you that the vast majority of 10 year olds are much more intelligent than an extremely bright _flaturtha._
fucking hell that Bob Knodel guy actually triggered me, they should just send them into space with a 30 minutes of oxygen so the last thing they see is the GLOBE they lived on..
Dave: “I have years of research, experience and photographic evidence to prove the earth it a geoid. What do you guess have?”.
Flat Earther: “I ran on a train..........”
Can't argue with that evidence provided
Lol ikr
Thank you, i litteraly laughed out loud
Well explain no transitional fossils and that carbon dating can not be used on fossils because of the flood that happened on earth and we asked professors this same question ua-cam.com/video/U0u3-2CGOMQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/qHRYnm_J4ts/v-deo.html
@@protruth5133 lolz
HOLY CRAP!!! This was uploaded FIVE years ago?! I remember this like it was a month ago! Wow.... time really does fly.
"Not sure how you can bend time, but maybe that's because I'm a stupid flat earther."
This was the only 100% true statement he ever said in his life.
So tell me how you do it? You are already good in bending truth!
@@MichelBiesot Well to explain it in the most baby, beginner, 5th-grade science class way. The "bending" of spacetime is known as time dilation, it's basically a phenomenon where time will move slower for somebody who is in motion relative to another person. Now, at speeds that we humans can travel right now, that difference is basically nothing, the one exception being astronauts on the ISS in which time moved approximately 1 second slower to them than on the surface of the earth. Now to have time differences that are noticeable, the observer to which time dilation is happening would have to be traveling at speeds approaching the speed of light, so I'll do that. Using the time dilation equation which is t = t0/(1-v2/c2)1/2, in which t = the time observed by the observer who is stationary, t0 = the amount of time that has passed to the observer in which time dilation is occurring to/the observer that's in motion, v = the velocity/speed of the observer that's in motion, c = the speed of light in a vacuum. in our problem let's say that v = 0.95c (95% of the speed of light), and t0 = 10 years. you'll get t = 10/ (1- (.95c)2/c2)1/2, and if we do some math that I'm positive you will not understand you'll then get 10 divided 0.312 = t, and since 10/.312 = about 32, the difference equals about 32 years. The same kind of thing happens when you are near a black hole for an extended period of time, like in the movie Interstellar, where 1 hour on the exo-planet equals 7 years on earth. If you're looking for something else, I'll be happy to attempt to explain it to you, but if you decide to be ignorant and discredit a hundred years of research like it's nothing. Then that's not my problem.
@@MichelBiesot lol he was repeating what that flat earth moron said to demonstrate that he's a moron. Professor Dave said "spacetime" and the globe busters said "space and time" then went on the say "not sure how you can bend time, etc" showing they have no clue what they're talking about. Spacetime isnt just time, it's both space and time and treated as one. Also it can be bent or curved by gravity. If your a flat earther like I suspect then gravity doesn't exist to you and this doesn't matter anyways.
@@MichelBiesot To cite Einstein who wrote his general theory of relativity in 1915, who found a new way to describe gravity. It was not a force, as Sir Isaac Newton had supposed, but a consequence of the distortion of space and time, conceived together in his theory as 'space-time'. Any object distorts the fabric of space-time and the bigger it is, the greater the effect.
Like your question this response will have absolutely no effect on your position as you are nothing more than a primitive little liar for baby jesus who finds 21st c knowledge utterly terrifying.
Ah! men.
@@MichelBiesotgravity bends both space and time. This is observable.
Their response to your challenge to produce a coherent model: “I’m sorry Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.”
2001 A Space Odyssey
I got this reference 😂😂
"Open the pod bay door Hal"
Their
@@AlecuBeldiman68420 is a cool movie
Literally every response to Dave’s questions - “hahaha, Dave is dumb. I win. Next topic…”
@Joce C You know what, this is insane, that anti-vaccine-themed channels are taken down and flat-earth-themed channels are not. At least anti-vacciners have *some* arguments grounded in statistics and facts, while flat-earthers have literally none.
@@wojciechsura You make it appear to be as though those with freewill are evil.
Who the hell is anyone to force anything upon anyone?! Oh wait, fascists.
We as a species are out of balance ⚖️. Too far to the left you have loss of Liberty and too far to the right you have loss of liberty.
"Our earthly masters don't give a damn about you, your family or your destiny with God, all that they have ever cared about is ruling the whole damned world 🌎"
@@shaman9628 explain then why statistically infection rates of most diseases went down after they made vaccine for them
@@bendrowned8506 Says who? The media?
@@shaman9628 Our world is being attacked by a worldwide disease that is deadly to the masses and could threaten us for the rest of time if we don't do anything about it. If you say it's fake, you're going to spread the disease of both misinformation and, well, the worldwide disease.
There. If you weren't brought to the bidding of the leaders, it's because I'm not a leader, and either way, I warned you. Plus, it should work if you're a normal person too, and I can tell it did not work. The whole quote has been debunked.
21:22- _"so, I'm really not sure how you can bend time, but maybe that's just 'cause I'm a stupid flat-earther."_
Bro had no idea how right he was.
I felt genuinely insulted how they casually waved away years of scientific progress just like that.
Scientific assumptions*
@@DoYou-NotSee Science*
@@DoYou-NotSee Oh please do explain. I love it when they come comment on a video that clearly illustrates how stupid they are. This is going to be fun.
@@jenkem4464 lol. Watch him never comment again cause he got called out.
@@DoYou-NotSee your ignorance.
I'm surprised flat earthers still say "hemisphere" and not hemiflat
Or "atmosphere" and not atmoflat..
They are trying atmoplane.
just moved to the northern hemicircle physics dont exist here 😩
Hemicircle
Homicircle
If I had a nickel for every time Dave has to say "Sorry!" I'd have enough money to fund a flat-earther cruise to Antarctica to show them that the ice wall doesn't exist.
Maybe you could buy them one way tickets?
@@ShizukuSeiji Maybe we could use that money to fund buying them even half functioning brains instead.
Nah, they don't like to be made aware that there is a world outside of America and that NASA is not some supranational organization that is present everywhere
@@jojolafrite90 You are evil, but I like how you think.
@@jojolafrite90 hey if the show makes enough money we could possibly get the money we spent sending them their back! And we could make them go to high earth orbit to make more money!
I keep coming back to this video over 5 years later and Dave is STILL responding to comments, that's why he's the GOAT
Thats what im talking about,thats why hes the mvp,thats why hes the GOAT,the GOAT
The only thing flat-earthers have to fear is sphere itself.
Hehehehe
bravo! 😂
@@iximusic I'm not taking credit for that line. It cracks me up! 😅
What a clever dad joke! I’m dying of laughter!
They should remove their eyes n balls then.
the problem isn't thinking the world is flat or round. The problem is the people who believe the world is flat inevitably start talk about jewish conspiracies, illuminati, etc, because it all fits together. Once a person believes one absurdity they will start to believe every absurdity.
It truly is a gateway conspiracy.
@@Entomology314 That's the problem. And since proof against the conspiracy is taken to be by the nebulous organization the more paranoid these people get. It never ends.
@@Entomology314 flat earth is a TERRIBLE gateway conspiracy, its only reserved for those who are extremely gullible, will not do any due dilligence, and are lacking a lot of basic fundamental knowledge regarding the natural world. 9/11 conspiracies are much better, they are much more convincing (maybe its true??).
It's because they all fit neatly in the top left corner of the Dunning-Kruger diagram.
The passive aggressive way in which they keep saying "Dave" is aggravating me more than any of their dumb theories
“Respond with a model that can actually explain this”
“I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that”
he speaks like his mother ;)
Don't give them the satisfaction of referring to any of their notions as "theories." They are hair-brained hypotheses at best, and sheer and utter lunacy at worst.
"Have you ever heard of rADaR Dave?"
"It's really quite easy, DAVE."
@@sanfordflemming1 Flat earthers to logic: Stop Dave. Stop. I am afraid Dave.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
-Albert Einstein
That's a good one, Sheev
And numbers
yess
Lmao
One great icon citing another
Thank you Sheev
"I'm a stupid flat-Earther"
Literally the ONLY truthful thing the flerf said during the entire video
Flat earthers: "Dark matter is ridiculous, you can't prove it"
Also flat earthers: "The energy of the heavens and the aether..."
Actually we know dark matter exists, we just don't know what it is yet.
@@pangasius6660 ovenless brownies!
@@pseudonym1128 Wow I didn't expect to find rick and morty fans in the comments of this video 😂
Lmao
Ahem, the "luminiferous" aether. This isn't your grandmothers aether bro.
Geez, I feel my intelligence leaving me just by listening to Flat-Earthers, I dunno how Dave survived all this without becoming a vegetable.
I’m surprised I didn’t die of laughing listening to them talk
Vegetable I thought dirt
An insult to all vegetables
yeah... listening to those guys circle jerk was painful
@PizzaTime as a potato,i am offended too!
I like how when they are talking about Antarctica, they say 'down there'.
F in the chat please
It's almost like they are trolls... But that can't be. Right?
@@turkepic3637 Not trolls, but like any other sort of religion, you gotta fake it till you make it. They 'want to believe', but believing takes effort.
@@homelessrobot eh. Most flat earthers are attention seeking trolls so thats why I said that. Of course some legitimately believe in their arguments which is... sad , to say the least.
“Wanna go down there?”
Their argument against the Cavendish experiment:
“Oh, yeah, that stupid thing. Whatever… There’s no evidence.”
Some claim it's static electric attraction, as if discharge to Earth doesn't exist.
WHY ARE THEY SAYING HEMISPHERE IF THEIR MODEL ISN'T A SPHERE, I'M GONNA CRY
Gabriel Rodriguez Wwwwaaaaaaiiiiiittttttttt lol are you serious ?!?!?!?!
LOL
The evil spirit of pride is entering you
hemiSPHERE
Because my dude these are the same people who tell you that science is fake but then try to use science to disprove it 😂
Flat Earthers: "You refuse to rely on your own observations."
Me: "I observe curvature at the horizon."
Flat Earthers: "Oh no, that one is just an anomaly. Atmospheric refraction."
Me: "Presents next observation."
Flat Earthers: "Oh, that's just an anomaly too but a completely different one, that only explains that one observation."
Rinse. Repeat.
Me: "I observe that one theory explains all my other observations and the other theory requires almost all my observations be explained away by specific anomalies (that often contradict other 'anomaly' explanations)."
Flat Earthers: "Oh, that's just an anom... wait..."
Me: "I observe that you tell me to rely on my own observations to 'disprove the lie of a round earth', then tell me to ignore most of my observations."
Flat Earthers: *Blank stare*
Me: "I observe that not only do your anomaly explanations, as well as most of your explanations and theories, contradict each other, but the fundamental argument of relying on my own observations is counter to your beliefs."
Flat Earthers: "No. You don't get it. You're ignorant."
Me: "I observe that when you run out of counterarguments, you resort to insulting and never explaining."
Flat Earthers: "I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, you are too stupid!"
Moron-to-English Translation: Flat Earthers: "I'm out of ideas but refuse to concede that I should even so much as examine my views or even parts of them. Instead of doing something that might confirm my errors, I'll exit the debate in a desperate and stupid way, by calling you stupid! Thus preserving my ego, avoiding conceding the blatantly obvious intellectual defeat and neatly avoiding having to actually learn anything. This will buy me enough time to find someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to debate me, who I can talk at to falsely pad my fragile intellectual ego.""
What ''Intellectual'' ego... Lmfao
I just can't fathom that they're being intentionally malicious in their stupidity.
It has to be some form of extreme delusion.
how come some round earthers say that you can see the curvature of earth on the horizon at ground level, but some say you can only see the curve in space
@@nig_card Not everyone is educated. Some people that know the Earth is spherical don't know the scientific why and/or how to explain it. The same lack of knowledge that enables flat-earthers to exist is still present throughout the population. The space thing (specifically) is a misconception, or rather, an exaggeration. If we start at the very basic, no matter the shape of the Earth, we can all agree that at a certain height, you would be able to see that shape. Space is easily far enough, so people say things like "You can see the curvature from space." That can then easily be misquoted or misinterpreted as "You have to be in space to see the curvature."
The first is true but the latter isn't. Fighter pilots frequently report the Earth round when questioned on this topic. Obviously, they are reaching heights that are enough to see the shape, but it's not space. Space is just an easily definable/understandable concept of a distance from the surface that is *at least* far enough to see the shape. As a result, it often gets misquoted as being the threshold for that visibility, but this threshold is much lower.
As for seeing it from ground level, that's something that requires a specific setting. I can't see anything that informs me of the shape of the Earth on my morning commute. All I can tell you from the view out of my car is that the Earth is covered in undulating terrain that changes constantly and provides no indication of the Earth's overall shape for me to know one way or another. That said, when I stand on the lookout of a small cliff near my home, overlooking the ocean, spanning 180 degrees of the view before me, I can see far enough, with flat enough features that I can see an overall shape.
I'd think, if you don't leave near a coast, it would be very difficult to find a horizon line that was far enough away to tell one way or another. That doesn't support flat Earth, that just tells us nothing either way!
@@nig_card Explain why you can't see Northen star in southern hemisphere. Simple, right? Any model to explain it? And explain day/night and seasons simultaneously? Thought not flattard lol.
Anyone else scrolling down the comments looking for flat earthers?🧐
🙋
Totally me
Well that’s a very small time between my reply and the next one...
@@demon_xd_ I guess... Now it's even shorter
Mayhaps
It’s hilarious how easy it is to be a conspiracy theorist. You don’t have to prove anything, you don’t have to disprove anything, you don’t even need to have internally consistent logic. Any time anything goes against your beliefs, just say “that’s fake and you’re in on it!”
"Don't judge others for their opinion"
Their opinion:
2+2=7
If the party says so, then it is true.
Na man 2+2 is obviously equal to π
@@xyleblack2545 With the practice of Doublethink, then ignorance is strength.
According to the HAL-9000 in the book (not the movie) 2001: A Space Odyssey, 2+2= approximately 4.10101010. Of course, HAL was malfunctioning at the time.....
If 2×2=4 then 2+2≠4, right?
When you die, you don't know you're dead and the pain is felt by others.
The same is true when you're stupid.
Made my day :D
hahahahahaha damn !!!! good one !!!
Good quote.
LOVE THAT
Damn that's brilliant.
I love how all of their tabs for sources are literally other flat Earth UA-cam videos
Yeah, this flat earther says that we are all dumb because we blindly follow preconceived notions and then BLINDLY FOLLOWS PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS.
@@liam9722 Some preconceived notions can be verified as valid via observations and experimental evidence. Other preconceived notions such as flat Earth, religion e.t.c, cannot. It's unwise to just follow a preconceived notion without checking it's validity for oneself otherwise one could be open to deception.
Max Mac yeah, that’s what I was saying. I’m not a flat earther bb.
@ Shandy Torok, I’m sorry but a 100 year old article accounting the circumstantial, un repeatable eye witness account of one man who has a limited understanding of the topic he is covering and was probably experiencing hypoxia at the time doesn’t count as evidence. Just because you have a PhD in one topic doesn’t mean you are qualified to make permanent observations on all fields of study. As you said, Piccard is a physics PhD not a geology or astronomy PhD, and this experiment was a physics demonstration not a astronomy or geology one. If you did your research you would find that he later retracted his statement after clearly viewing the curvature of the earth and is widely considered today to be the first person to ever see the curvature of the earth. Don’t come at me with that “do your research” bullshit when you don’t do research at all. Just because you read one article doesn’t mean you are now some science god who must destroy all false information. What is that confidence effect he talked about in the video, where people with limited understandings of topics tend to blow their understanding out of proportion, I forgot the name but you are the same as the globe busters, you don’t actually understand what we are talking about but you think you do because you read one article that said “NASA bad” and saw one model that had some cool flashy and blinky lights and though “yeah, I’m a genius”. You’re like a toddler, you get impressed by the dumbest shit. Die.
@ Shandy Torok wait so now I don’t even exist, wait what, I though I existed, damn guess I gotta go tell my family that I’m not real. If nasa doesn’t exist than who is guarding the super secret “Ice Wall”. And no, eye witness testimony is not timeless, ask any court or lawyer or judge or jury. If nasa doesn’t exist than how do all those nasa employees get paid, or what do all those nasa scientists do all day, just sit and do nothing. If nasa didn’t send a rocket to Neptune, than what was mission control doing for 12 years, just sitting there making free money? If nasa doesn’t exist than how did I get a summer internship there via the naval academy??? Oh yeah, that’s right, nasa brainwashed me while I was an intern and made me into a nasa loving shill. 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I'm a Freemason and just got back from my yearly, free trip to the South Pole. It was pretty chilly!
Same here! We even did a tour of the super-secret NASA military bunker there!
Number of times Dave was rude or disrespectful: 0
Number of times Globebusters put words in Dave's mouth: Too high to count
Or just called him dumb and stupid 5 times in the 5 minutes at the end I was aware of.
I'm only paying half attention
That literally shows how easy it is to proove that they are wrong.
I can stand a lot of things, and I have no problems with these dumb flat earthers. But when they try to impose their ridiculous theories and beliefs upon normal people and call normal people stupid when in fact they are the stupid ones, and just be outright rude to us, that's when my rage meter goes from 0 to super saiyan instantly.
@@detectiverohan I 100% agree with you! I wanted to express those same feelings but couldn't quite articulate how outrageous these flat earther's are
The earth is clearly flat, just slice a flat chunk out of the earth, that's flat and its earth, the earth is round and flat
Why does the flat-earth dude keep referring to Antarctica as 'down there' rather than 'out there'?
Cause deep inside he knows he’s bullshite
There are definitely a number of the highest visible members of this "community" who know full well that what they're saying is untrue. But for whatever reason, they continue the narrative which others believe. My best hypothesis is there is a deep desire for notoriety, fame, or fortune that leads them to continue the lies, but little things like this still slip through when they aren't 100% focused on their false narrative.
Evidence of these clear lack of belief has been seen in many videos and interviews of the "leaders" of flat earthers in the form of deception tells that anyone who has studied microexpressions can easily identify.
@Ma Rk you should always ask for examples and data. Nothing wrong with this request at all. Let's go off of this video: ua-cam.com/video/1gHbwT_R9t0/v-deo.html And I apologize for anything that may come across as misleading, as I don't want to put a dozen links here, but I'll list some timestamps for that video and the deceit expressions being shown and discuss the psychology behind those expressions.
1) 0 minutes, 25 seconds - this individual shows a classic deceit expression of small shakes of the head back and forth when they don't believe what they're saying (this can come in the form of complete opposite beliefs or just believing something they're saying is untrue).
2) 0 minutes, 40 seconds - leaning back, wide-eyed expression. Usually combined with a broad or outlandish statement, this is an attempt to override a feeling of absurdity. Similarly to when peoples' eyes will often go wide when they are shocked about something, this same trait is showing through during this man's claim.
3) 0 minutes, 52 seconds - looking up and to the right combined with a distraction/fidget action. This is either an attempt to make up a lie on the spot or remember a specific lie.
4) 1 minute, 7 seconds - this one is very small and very hard to catch if you're not looking for it, and you may need to replay several times. After the interviewer names the man as "father" of the movement, there is a micro raise of the left corner of his mouth (his left, not ours). This is a sign of an attempt to hide happiness or glee. Often times connected with the belief that they are getting away with something (although not always).
5) 1 minute, 17 seconds - repeat of #3.
6) 1 minute, 26 seconds - repeat of #3 (slightly harder to see, given the angle of the camera, but you can see his right eye movement from the profile view).
7) 2 minutes, 50 seconds - locked eye contact, intensified stare, slight lean forward of body position - this is less a deceit microexpression and more of a sales-pitch style psychology. The man is actively trying to engage the reporter in what he is discussing (alone, this would not be enough evidence to determine deceit. The individual could just be very determined.)
7) 2 minutes, 50 seconds - phrasing use. Initially throwing out easily agreeable ideas and at the end of the third concept (simple rule of three psychology), a twist is provided. In this case it's the added on "seems to be gravity" phrase at the end. And of course moved forward before a question to be asked about that choice of phrasing, so it stays connected to the agreed upon facts before it.
8) 3 minutes, 35 seconds - condescending smirk. You'll notice this when the camera cuts to his face after the man says "pretty sure" about how the Earth looks. This is a blatant deceit marker that isn't even small enough to be a microexpression. He fully believes that his lie is being believed.
9) 3 minutes, 36 seconds - inhibition of phrasing, shaking head while speaking affirmation. This is very common when someone suddenly feels they may have pushed too far with a lie. They walk it back, and then proceed to show the age old inversion of action and word. In this case, the continued "saying" that he agrees while his head shakes side to side, meaning no - he does not actually agree. This is one of the most common and easily visible deceit expressions.
10) Slightly off topic, but if you look at 5 minutes, 29 seconds for comparison, this man clearly believes everything he is saying. Of course this doesn't mean he's right about the information. But being wrong and lying are not the same thing. Compare and contrast his expressions, eye contact, and body language against the original primary interviewee, and you will see a great deal less forced engagement, worried eye movement, and contradictory expressions between words and body language.
These are just examples from an edited series of interviews. While I cannot say that based on this data specific individuals must believe as a whole whether or not the Flat Earth Movement is a sham, I can say for certain when individuals were and were not lying. That said - the more time you get to see someone, the more expressions you can pick out. And the ability to pick these out on the fly while talking with them is vastly harder than reviewing video recordings. So if anyone knows of a long-form interview with one of these or other individuals who are leaders in the Flat Earth Movement, I'd love to take a look and give my analysis and determinations!
Edited to make the time references more clearly separate from the video this comment is posted on, as they are referencing the video in the link at the top of this comment.
@The Infidel I mean, you're not wrong in general, but since all Flat Earth "models" have the North Pole at the center, then that determination doesn't actually fit?
@The Infidel on the off-chance you're not being wilfully obtuse. On a FE map of the world, Antartica is a ring at the circumference of the circle, not a region to the south (or bottom, if you like). So, from the FE perspective, you don't go *down* to Antartica, you go outward.
Dave: *mentions proven scientific facts*
Flat Earthers: Haha, you're so simple dave! You're wrong, this is what I believe because it makes a lot of sense to me.
yeah proven facts are the basis of all knowledge. a proven fact comes from someone smart, who figured it out, and tells me
@Stuffstuffington Stuff
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@Stuffstuffington Stuff they amplify their own voice whether we ignore them or not. This video isn’t about them. It’s about reaching the people vulnerable to their kool-aid before they do.
@Stuffstuffington Stuff if you ever had to listen to them for hours every single day carry on about all the crazy they believe you'd understand why it is important to try and stop it from spreading. They try really hard to convert people and it does work for them to some degree. There numbers are slowly growing at my work.
@@SESH710 so what if they are gay? That’s not an insult 🙄
I had to watch this again in 2024; just to give another standing ovation. Amazing teacher.
Once, I was on a plane and the stewardess came by with a cart of snacks and drinks. As she took her hands off the cart in order to hand out drinks, the cart suddenly rocketed down the aisle at an astonishing speed of 600 miles per hour and blew the back end of the plane right off! I awoke with a start and said, thank goodness it was just a dream. Conservation of momentum is real, guys!
Had me in the first half not gonna lie.
I can't begin to comprehend how many Y chromosomes u have
@@jakefearing6640 Ask your mom
@@davidmcfadden1763 damn what a reply
You were on a(n) (air)plane that was on a smallish landmass which was surrounded by water? How did the drink cart get off the plane onto the isle? Where was the rocket engine mounted? Did the cart reach 600mph immediately, or did the speed increase over the duration of the burn?
"It took 1800 years for someone to get in a boat and go West." Yet flat earthers can't do that exact thing to find their "Ice Wall" in this day and age and with much better ships, go figure.
Yep, exactly. They will claim some stupid bs (as always) like: "oH tHe gOveRnMenT kiCkS yOu oUt iF yOu gO thERe"
It is because if the were smart enough to earn the money to hire or buy a ship with that capacity, they would not believe in a flat Earth.
robot penguins will shoot them with their laser beams eyes
Funny I don't remember the ice wall being a thing until "Game of Thrones" . They can't even imagine their own imaginary earth.
@@billywhizz1656 you mean secret government penguins surely!!?
They say the Earth is flat but they Say Atmosphere and not Atmoflat
Omg that’s actually gold
It would be atmoplane not atmoflat but I see your point.
@@jenniferreyes2865 Tbh atmoplane is a cool word
@@jenniferreyes2865 i've really heard one flattard say "atmoplane" in her video.
"tem skeptic" gave her an extra "ding" on his "idiot meter" every time she said it.
@@jenniferreyes2865 atmocircle actually
I must say, this is one of the most clearest, faultless debunk videos I've seen!
Surely there's no room to argue any of it now..?
There's lots of room behind the Ice Wall.
But if they pretend that nothing said here proves anything, then they have all the room in the world to argue.
This whole conversation in a nutshell:
Globebusters: sorry Dave, but we already pictured ourselves as the chads and you as the virgin in this meme, therefore we won the argument
Ok this is funny as fuck
Yea, that’s basically how these guys try to do their point
This is painfully true
And don't forget the condescnding giggles and bringing up random tidbits of information that doesn't prove anything they claim or disprove anything Dave says.
@@coledorillo6685 yeah, like "we're so smart and he is so dumb"
The fact that 15k people disliked this is scary.
Nah. Just a couple hundred people on all their sock puppet accounts.
@@isaacmoore6803 Even if it were 15k people compared to the population of the earth you could round it off to zero. Which when you consider how few people even care about the shape of the earth it makes the whole vast conspiracy to hide it seem even more absurd. The thing is conspiracy theorists are perfectly fine accepting the absurd but easily ignore/reject all credible evidence suggesting otherwise.
There is nothing harder than getting fools admitting they have been fooled. 😂😂
Or one guy with 15 thousand accounts....
It's globebusters with a bunch of dislike bots to dislike this video
the funniest part is how confident they are
*Dunning-Kruger.*
it's legit scary
Well I mean it's how they make gullible people believe them... so.....
They so thoroughly don't understand science i won't be surprised if they didn't pass 5th grade
Flat earthier: if the earth was a sphere all the water would flow to India
Me: and your just stupid
I'm just gonna say it
*I trust scientists more than politicians*
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I think it would be interesting to see a state entirely ruled by reason. We can call it “Logocracy”
@@ash_vanilla_therianBASED? BASED ON WHAT? -heavy tf2