IS YOUR TRACTOR OUT OF LEVEL? WHY DOES A BUCKET SIT UNEVEN?

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @DKrage01
    @DKrage01 Рік тому +6

    Good content as always! I once picked up a heavy snow plow/box combination attachment with my 4 series red tractor to load just the plow onto a trailer. I missed getting the SSQA inserted on one side of the attachment and (lazily) proceeded to lift and load it hanging off kilter on the loader. I bent the tube that joins left to right side on the SSQA. I needed to un-pin if from the loader and cylinders and take to a welder to have him cut the tube, square up the attachment, re-weld it back together and reinforce the tube. Worked perfectly again but learned a lesson the hard way. These tractor loaders are not built nearly as robust as a skid steer loader and can bend far easier.

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому

      Holy smokes, crazy that that happened. Thanks for sharing!

  • @foonus406
    @foonus406 Рік тому +2

    It's amazing how many dealers and manufacturers (if not all) cut corners on the tires. Got a green skid steer and within a week of delivery both rear wheels developed slow leaks (10 psi over 3-4 days). $90,000 for equipment and they are still cutting corners to make the most profit.
    Thanks for the Video!

  • @billt881
    @billt881 Рік тому +8

    Good video. Another thing I've noticed with older tractors and I'm sure you have too is, the wider the attachment, the more compounded the "issue". It could be something you don't notice with a 6ft bucket but an 8ft snow pusher may really show things are out of whack.

  • @PineyGroveHomestead
    @PineyGroveHomestead Рік тому +1

    Our L3901 is like that....I think the previous owner tweaked the loader frame with a big tree after hurricane cleanup. It would be better if it was level, but I don't see that it grades uneven once you drop the bucket all the way down. Good video.

  • @davidolchewsky5365
    @davidolchewsky5365 Рік тому +2

    All very good things to check! One item I can add is possible 'misuse'. I had an instance where I had to 'try' and pick up one side of a huge fallen tree, but I could only get to it from a certain angle. Unable to center the load in the bucket, I had the tree more on one side of the bucket and attempted to pick it up. It was too heavy as my back tires came off the ground (one before the other due to the lifting angle). Not sure if my imagination (probably not), but ever since my bucket edge is no longer level on the same concrete point I've had it on for years. So, I'm thinking I either tweaked the loader frame or moved some of the mechanical mounting points out of 'normal'. I've not measured and tried to find where it needs adjusted or find that it's permanently 'tweaked'. Moral of story is to always center the lift in the bucket; as we all know.

  • @mattlynch2823
    @mattlynch2823 Рік тому

    I hav a 2010 New Holland workmaster 55 that I bought new, it came with the Alo quickie 615tl and they used the same loader on the workmaster 45 at the time. Turns out that loader is to light for the 55. I've had numerous issues over the years that I've had to address including twisting the arms out of level, I had to engineer an extra heavier crossmember witch has kept it true since. Point to my long winded rant was just that I wish someone had told me when looking at new tractors to ask your dealer about heavier options for loaders it will save you a lot of headaches in the long run! Thanks for all your helpful tips!

  • @nickchenoweth6629
    @nickchenoweth6629 Рік тому +4

    On my brand new 1025r I finally determined (with a suggestion from you) that for whatever reason the dealer had the entire right side tire air pressure at 30 psi on both the front and the back. Once I got the psi back to spec it corrected the issue from about 2” down to about 1/4” which is more tolerable for the bucket and/or snow pusher being level.
    Thank you for the suggestion.

  • @kagnewmp12
    @kagnewmp12 Рік тому +1

    When I purchased my brand new Kubota BX 1880 in 2020 it took no time at all to realize that my bucket was not level at all. It was during Covid's early days and tractors were getting hard to come by so I had to take what was there and it was a Pin on bucket. I sent it back twice and the dealer said it was fixed but it was not. It took over a year to finally get the quick attach bucket system and when I got it back the bucket that came with it was perfectly level. I believe it was just the bucket itself. I include this small bit of advise and that is to get the quick attach in the first place and to avoid a Smiley bucket always put a cutting edge on it. If you don't know what a smiling bucket is just drive by a used tractor lot and look at some old tractors that don't have the cutting edge.

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому +1

      haha, those tractors are just happy because they got to play in the dirt a lot!

  • @bradeden1132
    @bradeden1132 Рік тому

    Nail hit squarely on the head with the different “sized” tires. The bucket on my BX wasn’t hitting the flat garage floor level. One side was an inch or so up. I did the usual checking of tire pressures etc., but couldn’t get it level. Spoke with my dealer who commented that sometimes the same size tires can be slightly off. That happens when tires are made in different runs at manufacturer. He suggested adjusting air pressure in rear tires with one a couple/few pounds less than the other. That changed the stance and corrected the problem.

  • @AndyGarcia-ch1ci
    @AndyGarcia-ch1ci Рік тому

    Mine was off about 2" one side to the other, it happened after I got a new rear tire! The new tire was a different brand also. It also took me a while to figure it out. I took a bunch of air out of my new tire and vuala! Great video.

  • @SlackerU
    @SlackerU Рік тому +1

    On the BX2370 dirt can get compacted behind the bucket where it attaches to the arms & it'll bend out the bucket-attach points. I always feel like my bucket isn't level but it's simply b/c the rear tires aren't on level ground, it's an interesting way to develop job-overview skills. The BX is ideal for making LID-swales to drain lawns, the angel limits of the machine limit ditch side-slope & the low-power prevents damage to lower soil-compaction layers. [I don't box-blade, they're overrated or unnecessary for my area]

  • @Majestic-Gaming
    @Majestic-Gaming Рік тому +1

    I have a 1983 Ford 1710 and my whole loader is twisted, it is about 1 inch higher on one side. I have tried doing things to fix it, but by now I have just accepted it. But great video.

  • @rcclassiccrawlers4368
    @rcclassiccrawlers4368 Рік тому +1

    I was operating a JD 544 and the right side of the bucket was digging in considerably deeper than the left. After some investigating the loader arms/boom was tweaked. After a lot of messing around I was able to get most of the twist out of it. Granted it wasn’t perfect but a heck of a lot better. Moral of the story. Don’t use the corner of your bucket for prying.

  • @TimmyMoza
    @TimmyMoza Рік тому

    Good advice…. One other thing might check is I work around a lot of rocks and gravel and one time found a rock stuck up into the upper bracket throwing it off kilter… of course was easy to spot as I couldnt get my attach lever to seat properly… but still happened….

  • @rodneythornburg818
    @rodneythornburg818 Рік тому

    R4 tires have a big difference in hight from brand to brand. I noticed this when shopping for new front tires.

  • @mss34698
    @mss34698 Рік тому +1

    My Bobcat CT2025 bucket appeared wonky from the drivers seat and I called the dealer. I was told to use a four-foot or six-foot level across the top of the ROPS, then across the loader arms and then across the top edge of the bucket while the bucket was raised about 3 feet. Even if the tractor is not level, as long as everything is off the same amount the bucket is level.
    Turns out everything was fine, but the brush guard was catawampas (love the word) and just needed adjusting. This was also verified by the level.
    I don't know if that would have worked if I had one tire that was larger. Thanks Courtney.

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому

      Ahh yes, I've had that happen before too on a Kubota...drove me nuts until I realized the guard was wonky :)

  • @randywhelan8944
    @randywhelan8944 Рік тому

    Always make sure to check the loader brackets to see if they're squared up and torqued properly , we actually found on our 2038r that the bolts had loosened up and that's why the bucket wasn't level.

  • @MrPiEater
    @MrPiEater Рік тому +2

    it seems like my 1025R loader sits level, but points off center to the left of the tractor by about and inch at the end of the hood and a good 2+ inches at the bucket. I found MANY others on the web have similar tweaks. it looks like a simple washer on the back of the mount at each bolt between the mount and the chassis on one side and a similar arrangement on the front of the other side would do the job when multiplied out by the length of the loader arms.. Another owner did this, but was cautioned by a third party to be careful about applying a torque to the cast steel mounts as they may not withstand this very well. I've hesitated to adjusted it as this cast steel issue made sense to me, so I try to ignore the trivial offset. An inch here or there likely makes zero difference when playing in the dirt - the tires can flex more than this at any point.

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому

      Interesting, I haven't heard about that issue. Sounds fairly common?

  • @mtozzy11
    @mtozzy11 Рік тому +2

    I've seen the loader hitch twisted, the loader it's self twisted and the sub frame twisted. I even had a tractor come back from the dealer after a clutch replacement with one of side of the subframe 2 inches lower than the other

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому

      Ha, came back from the dealer like that?

    • @mtozzy11
      @mtozzy11 Рік тому

      @@GoodWorksTractors yup they also fried the ecu, then wanted us to pay for it to be replaced and to be reprogrammed. I wasn't having none of it. In the end loader subframe was correctly reinstalled ecu replaced free of charge and reprogrammed and a complementary set of front tyres fitted

  • @sunseeker6088
    @sunseeker6088 Рік тому +32

    My bucket loader was totally out of whack and all messed up. I found out later that when I wasn’t looking my tractor snuck out and voted for J Biden. That completely explained the whackness and why my tractor had become lazy. I’m just having some fun here. Thanks for another informative video Cory.

    • @stevo4535
      @stevo4535 Рік тому

      Lol

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому +9

      Ha, I can't believe you didn't sell it after that...or give it away to someone who needs it more than you :)

    • @lonewolfFirearms
      @lonewolfFirearms Рік тому +2

      ​@@GoodWorksTractors I personally would have dismantled that tractor and sold it for scrap...lol

    • @rcclassiccrawlers4368
      @rcclassiccrawlers4368 Рік тому +3

      I would’ve gave it some drastic discipline like replace its ECM so it would be able to think more clearly.

    • @randywhelan8944
      @randywhelan8944 Рік тому +3

      Straight to the scrap yard it would go , we have no time for lazy equipment.

  • @bruceanderson9461
    @bruceanderson9461 Рік тому

    Have a 430 JD loader. I lifted the bucket accidentally once with only one side hooked. After that the arms were not synchronized. I talked to the JD dealership which has been excellent about service and they had no solution even though I mentioned that to me the rod going from side to side may be twisted? Bingo, took the bolt out on one side and lined up the arms and the holes didn’t line up. Redrilled the holes with a bigger bolt and no more problem. If this happens again I will source better steel for this rod that will spring back when torsion is experienced.

  • @justanotherviewer52
    @justanotherviewer52 Рік тому +2

    Things to check during a daily inspection.

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому +5

      And once you're done, it's time for dinner!

    • @kdegraa
      @kdegraa Рік тому +1

      Sounds like a pre check for a jet airliner.

    • @justanotherviewer52
      @justanotherviewer52 Рік тому

      @@kdegraa - lol - Daily inspection/walk around - ingrained habits when you are operating company equipment that you are responsible for.

  • @PapaRug.58
    @PapaRug.58 Рік тому

    The loader mount on my “offshore brand” tractor broke the cast out around the bell housing where it mounted (cheap cast iron )had to modify where it mounts to tractor by building a sub frame to mount loader mount arm 😢😢

  • @workingmanrondoyle3287
    @workingmanrondoyle3287 Рік тому

    Carrying an off balance load on the loader. Such as grabbing a downed tree in a grapple not centrally balanced, can twist the loader arms out of wack 😥. I experienced a wobbly loader on borrowed older Kubota tractor, missing and loose loader arm support bolts 🧐 . Biggest takeaways= if something doesn't seem right, it probably isn't right. Check it out!

  • @dorhocyn3
    @dorhocyn3 Рік тому +2

    Arg, 2 right brackets, two different tire dimensions, even though the sizes are the same

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  Рік тому

      Yeah...hard to believe...but lots of good things happen to me too :)

  • @lordchaa1598
    @lordchaa1598 Рік тому +1

    I’ve noticed my bucket on my new Lx2610 is slightly off. It’s barely noticeable, but barely isn’t never.

  • @douglaspost5097
    @douglaspost5097 Рік тому

    I have a 2005 JD4520 that has this very problem. The bucket doesn't sit flat on the ground. The right end is 2" or more lower than the left. I've noticed that where the loader frame attaches to the tractor on the right, there's quite a bit of movement while the left is solid. I'm wondering if I take the loader off if I can tighten the bolts up. I'm pretty reluctant to mess with the mounting bolts because I don't want to break one if they're rusted in, then I'd be really screwed. Also I noticed a crack around one of the bosses that the bucket curl pivots on. So there's a couple of issues to deal with. I'm not sure what to do about the loader mounting bolts thing. Can I heat the bolt heads up with a torch? Would that help break the rust? Any ideas?

  • @debow567
    @debow567 Рік тому

    I have 2022 JD 4044r , noticed the left bucket edge hits the ground first (sitting in the cab) and the right is about 1-2” higher. Been driving me crazy.

  • @robertprice6359
    @robertprice6359 Рік тому

    I've been dealing with an unlevel bucket since tractor was brand new last year(Kubota BX2380)-SSQA style-left side of bucket is about 1' off ground when right side is touching. Dealer had it twice last year trying to correct it, 2nd time they put more air in right rear tire and said it was fixed. The R4 tires that came with tractor , rears were different heights, swapped out with different set, still no difference. When I loosened left saddle bracket from tractor frame, bucket goes level. Tighten bolts, bucket goes unlevel. Shouldn't have to run different rear air pressures. I have set of R14T tires and set of turf tires, bucket unlevel with either set. Set level across loader arms and it's not level, top of ROPS is level. Anyone have any ideas? Dealer is waiting to hear back from Kubota corporate service department on how to proceed in fixing this, thoroughly disgusted....

  • @terrilljohnson5371
    @terrilljohnson5371 Рік тому

    I remember a tractor on the farm it was hard to take it off and put it on than when a farmer bought it he said the loader was not put together right

  • @kavemanthewoodbutcher
    @kavemanthewoodbutcher Рік тому +1

    If my loader bucket was out of level, I'd never know, since there's not a flat piece of ground on my property!

  • @josephtutela1066
    @josephtutela1066 Рік тому

    Put a level across loader arms then across attachments. Even if tractor isn't level the level will show if attachments are wrong

  • @Rick-ux5ku
    @Rick-ux5ku Рік тому

    just put a 4' level on the ground infront of the front wheels and then on top of the bucket pick it up they should match if your tires are properly inflated

  • @timwarren5021
    @timwarren5021 Рік тому +1

    Can you perform a review of the Summit tractor after ~1 year?

  • @ralphross2357
    @ralphross2357 Рік тому

    Right rear tire spins more and wears the tread down so the tractor sits lower on that side.

  • @donbrutcher4501
    @donbrutcher4501 Рік тому

    twisted loader frame

  • @tscncworks304
    @tscncworks304 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the bible verse.

  • @richardbyus9183
    @richardbyus9183 Рік тому

    Love the Bible verse....