Hey that's great to hear! Every person's phone I save from my unfortunate mistake is mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for watching!
I have the z flip 3. Several cases have adhesive. I outright refused to use the adhesive strips. There is just too much potential to damage a decice. So glad you made a video addressing this issue.
Thanks for commenting! So in a vacuum, by itself, the adhesive doesn't pose any risk to the aluminum the frame of of phone is made from. The real risk is if any of the adhesive strips lines up with the mmW 5G antenna cover, which is also present on the Z Flip 3, then damage can be done on removal. The adhesive does serve an important purpose of anchoring the case in place to prevent scratches from fine dust particles due to minute movements and shifting of the case on the phone. The easiest way to safely avoid the antenna cover problem while also utilizing the adhesive is to simply check the location of all the adhesive strips in relation to the antenna cover first. If there's a strip that would sit right on top of it, remove that strip from the case. You can leave all the others in place. Then install the case as you would normally. It should now give you no problems!
Thank you for the warning. It’s a shame the Samsung design engineers didn’t think about how to anchor cases without adhesive. All it would have needed is some small detents in the frame.
That's not a samsung issue, that's a case manufacturer issue. They designed the case. I have 3 Samsung OEM cases for my Z Fold 3 and none of them use adhesive.
@@PMill id love a link to where we can all get the case you are saying you have. I looked on the Samsung website and didn't see a case for the Z Fold 3 yet. I'd love one with no adhesive. I'm currently using Spigen with adhesives but haven't used the adhesive.
Hey mate, I'm not in the US I'm in Australia but up until early this year I worked for Samsung in the mobile servicing department. Given Ive not seen or handled the Fold 3 but I did on the Fold 1 and 2 plus the normal Note and S series devices with the IP ratings. I'm pretty confident that your concerns are warranted regarding liquid ingress into the device. The issue you'll (possibly) have is that they'll most likely class it as physical damage. With the Fold devices due to the way they're manufactured, I'm pretty sure they'll require the entire frame to be replaced. Using an example, if say you drop your phone and you dent in your volume or power button...due to the way the LCD module is manufactured, they can't replace just the buttons. The entire screen would need to be replaced entirely. That would apply to the Fold 3 presumably. The bitch with the Folds is that the inner display is also a part of the frame and comes as one part pre installed. So, definitely contact Samsung in your area just for confirmation. I'm not sure how strict they are in the US regarding warranty, but here in AUS it's very black and white. Perhaps since it's so new they might be nice, but prepare yourself for the possibility of having a largeish payout get it sorted.
@@d1nonlysnshn No problem at all, also, avoid going to any 3rd party repairers. They may be cheaper than Samsung if an out of pocket cost is required but they usually aren't authorized and sometimes don't use genuine parts or have the correct machines needed to repair the phones properly. A lot of people go there to save time/money but the phone usually ends up costing more as it breaks or has issues. If Samsung confirm this during inspection it's not covered under warranty
@@benphillips9973 I work at a ubreakifix in the US and we're partnered with Samsung to do their repairs with genuine parts. I can absolutely say water damage is is considered physical damage and is not covered under the warranty and it is a hefty chunk of change for a display repair, like $550+ for the inner display. You are also correct that the buttons would require a full frame replacement and the inner display is attached so it's that same $550+ price to replace the frame or hinge!
@@isaiah3565 Cheer mate, I appreciate the reply to confirm my suspicions. I'm from the US originally but left in 2009 before the smartphone game really took off. I wasn't sure if Samsung repaired directly in the US or used a licensed 3rd party repairer like they do over here. Good to know which company, I've heard good things about you guys
man, you saved me a lot of hassle, while prying the case off I noticed the plastic cover was about to come off, I watched your video and was able to get the case out using your method Thank you so much
Good to know as I am a fan of spigens slim cheap cases. I usually take my cases off once in awhile to clean around the edges where it meets the phone and retty much every time I find a little bit of dust/dirt on back/sides between case and phone as well. Not much on good cases but enough that you keep in mind to clean it once in awhile to prevent the debris from causing damage.
Oh for sure, a heat gun or hair dryer would help! But unfortunately, I like most new Z Fold 3 owners, wasn't aware of the risk of damage until I'd already made the mistake of pulling a case off the wrong way.
Thanks man! I really appreciate this information. I actually have the exact same case on my phone that you have on your phone in the video. I need to take it off to redo the screen protector, so this information has been really helpful. 👍🏻
Lucky on my z fold 2 its not an issue , with both spigen cases they come off very easly without any distruction , you could on the fold 3 case remove the glue by the 5g section , water proofing of the phone was a spray coating over the boards ect so no problem with your loose 5g antenna cover
Just bought the Fold 3 yesterday. I bought the samsung silicone case with it which doesn't use adhesive on the right side of the phone (where the 5G antennae is), but I ordered the Spigen Slim case (that you have currently) which does use tape on the right side so you saved me a future headache for sure. I loved how thorough you were with everything and I can't thank you enough. Subscribed!
So I have the slim armor pro case. I like to switch cases so I didn't wanna use adhesives but that became an issue when opening the phone. The left half of the phone always slid out. But I realized that the right side fits so tightly that it doesn't move at all. So I used the adhesive on the left side and not on the right and everything works perfectly. Glad I don't have to worry about this issue.
I ripped off the antenna cover removing my case in my local assurion brick and mortar repair store today lol luckily my phone is having the inner display replaced which involves replacing the entire body of the phone. The Inner screen developed stress fractures down the center where it folds. Z fold 3 5G
kinda of like duh. I i guess a ton of people dont think. Im using the official silicon one. It only has a small adhesive on the front screen on the left side. Works fine. I would never use a case that uses that much adhesive and really not one thats on the sides of the phone. But also you can use a drop of IPA (rubbing alcohol). This i will loosen/ dissolve the glue
Well yeah, I definitely hope we see more cases come out that can stay in place without adhesive and still avoid sliding around. As for your suggestion about isopropyl alcohol, normally that would be a great idea and actually for almost every other spot where there's adhesive on the case, a small drop can help. But when it comes to the sensitive antenna cover area, there is a high risk of the alcohol seeping underneath the antenna cover and causing its own adhesive to weaken, which would only increase the risk of damage during removal of the case. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your vid. I loooove detailed explanations. They are needed to get the full picture. So keep doing what you do. I will subscribe. We ordered our Folds last week. The 512s will take 30-60 days to arrive. So we are doing a lot of research now. We decided on the Spigen Armor because we wanted the protection for the hinge, which is paramount to us. I am really sorry abt the damage to your phone and I do appreciate you using your misfortune to help others avoid this damage to our phones. I also think makers of these cases should include a warning to NOT put the adhesive on that part of the phone. Yes, more than likely the water tightness is compromised...😫
I've got the Spigen with full hinge protection & it has adhesive but is the best protection for this $1800 phone, it's worth every bit of the $80 I spent for it.
yea.. putting adhesive on a $1800 phone, limiting ability to remove the case at leisure, never resonated with me -- therefore, skipped on that option.. I also heard about how some cases (particularly the cheap cases) left markings on the zfold... Based on that, I decided (at least for now) to stick with the Samsung case pen case (mentioned not to leave damage), and will try using both an elastic band to keep from flapping when not in use and a wireless charger friendly ceramic Finger ring holder kickstand...
i don’t have these case, but i would use a few drops of 91% rubbing alcohol or denatured alcohol on each adhesive contact point to loosen the adhesive before removing the case
Normally, this would be a pretty good suggestion for helping adhesive come off, but in this case, it's not a good idea since the alcohol can also seep in behind the antenna cover and weaken the adhesive holding it down as well. Hopefully that makes sense! Thanks for watching!
I've used the Spigen Slim Armor Pro on my ZF2 and now my ZF3. I've had the Spigen Tough Armor too. Never had this problem taking the cases off intact. Never damaged my phone. It would be nice if Samsung made a "Tough" or "Rugged" version of the Fold. Models years ago that were popular, would have one of these versions for people who were rough on their phones. We almost never carry our phones around without a case. You'd think that Samsung would pay attention.
I removed the case with the fold well folded. I started on the front, middle of the screen. Go the front off no issue. The back was different, the glue felt stronger and I had to pop the corners first then pushed the case on the side straight back pushing the case off and it still ripped that cover off. What now.
Never mind. The glue tape was not distributed but on one side on the edge and I just smoothed the glue over with my finger nail, stuck the cover back in the slot. I pressed on it for a bit and after an hour accidentally drop it in my kitchen sink and it appears to still be waterproof. So yeah that worked kinda. But i have the same case that's ok his phone in the video but im not peeling of the backing of the replacement sticky glue tape to avoid that hassle again.
I have the UB supcase with hinge protection on my Z Fold 4 and it had no adhesive only in one spot that's the top were the pre installed screen protector is thats for dust prevention purposes
Wow man... its just the right timing... only a day left for my backordered slim armor pro to arrive.. I am so glad I watched... Real value addition buddy.. you have just saved so many smartphones.. Good job..
Thanks for the kind words, man! I'm glad you found my video helpful! Hopefully with just a couple tweaks, your new case works great without any damage to your phone. Thanks for watching!
What about not using the adhesive in the upper right corner, but placing a piece of wax paper or electrical tape in the corner of the case? I had read about some people doing this to also prevent phone abrasions.
That's essentially the exact solution I provided at the end of the video for those that had not yet installed such an adhesive-based case on their phone. For those that have already caused significant damage though, that wont' work. The only good thing is, after speaking with several people who have been in direct contact with samsung it appears that the external cover isn't critical for waterproofing so even if it falls off completely, other than being a cosmetic blemish, it shouldn't have any affect on the IP rating.
@@UA-cam.Algorithmic.Nonsense Ahh well actually I more meant the first part about removing the adhesive. The exact suggestion I gave in the video was to keep the adhesive in place and simply avoid removing the wax paper backer. In my case since I did partially damage the adhesive of the antenna cover, in addition to leaving the adhesive and backer in place, I also put several layers of folded thin card stock between the case and the side of my phone to apply enough pressure to keep the antenna cover from lifting.
@@ctuan13 I was looking at the case and the upper right lip seems to be somewhat sharp. I saw a suggestion of putting something over the sharp edge, like a small piece electrical tape. Maybe this was more of a problem with the Fold 2, but I had read it was causing a fair amount of friction scratches. I'm basically trying to read and watch a number of videos before I get the balls to slap on the Spigen slim armor case.
I appreciate this video. I just ordered my Z Fold3 today as well as a couple cases to try out. Once I pick a case I'm going to make sure to keep the adhesive in that specific area covered so it does not adhere to the antenna cover. Thank you for the heads up! I paused at 6:44 to make this comment.
Companies should start including the adhesive separate I hate cases with adhesive mostly bc it just feels too permanent I like to admire my phone AND get protection
Did you like the tough armor or the slim armor pro better? I'm not sure about the bulky spine protection on the slim armor pro. Also, which one feels less bulky to you? Did you have any problems typing or using pull up or drop down menus with the lips on these cases when closed?
So I actually thought the same thing, that I'd hate the Slim Armor's thicker hinge protection which is why I initially went with the the Tough Armor. But between the sliding hinge protection constantly hanging up upon opening requiring a concerted effort to open without binding, to the oversized lip on the front, making swiping everywhere but from the top, almost impossible, I realized I made the wrong choice. Ultimately, I think the Slim Armor Pro, still offers plenty of protection but is ergonomically a much better choice. How it feels in the hand and in terms of usability is night and day. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of this as I've only had the phone for a week or so. Still looking for another case as the official Samsung one is crap! Subscribed.
i had a z flip 3 and i at first used the otterbox - No issues - then bought the samsung oem ring case - my screen was fried within 3 days i was livid with samsung not wanting to take any resposibility !
Thank you for this info. This will be my 1st fold and I was having a funny feeling about putting a case on with adhesive on it..to me it doesn't make any sense to put something sticky on a device that cost an arm and a kidney. I'll keep looking for a case without adhesives, thank you!
I'm glad you found my video helpful! I agree it's frustrating to have to deal with adhesive on cases. But you actually don't have to avoid adhesive cases entirely. Like I stated in the video, all you have to do is remove the adhesive on that particular section of the case over the antenna cover and you should avoid all issues with damaging the antenna cover.
i had my cover put on yesterday and placed the l'ttle strips of tape but just on the screen side but apparently ddn't work😅 because i guess a didn't put it right.well explanation .good vid.. my regards ! 🙂👍
Hey man I appreciate it. Sorry to hear you went through that but the fact that you have made a video to warn the rest of us is really helpful and I appreciate it. You just got a sub! Keep grinding hopefully your channel blows up.
I found out the hard way with my spigen armor case for $80.00 when I went to take the case off now I just remove that sticky tab above the volume button so it won't happen again it's just a cover you'll still water protection I called Samsung it's just there to cover that part of the phone I just pushed it back in and it was fine didn't come back off but Samsung could of did this a better way with 1 or 2 small screws so it would stay on
Great video bro! I would’ve never even thought of this had I not seen this video. Thanks! 👍🏾 I have the s pen case and I literally tried to take it off while watching this video. 😄 I was so nervous bro! It doesn’t even have adhesive and I was still nervous! 😆 Again great vid bro! 👍🏾😎 P.S. Guys never go Full Guerrilla mode!!! 😂👏🏾
Yeah man it can be a bit tricky, but just go slow and you should be okay. And adhesive cases are also okay, provided you remove the adhesive from the affected area on the case. And yes, always avoid full gorilla mode! 😂 Thanks for watching!
I know right, I have the spen case and struggled to get it off first time, then I noticed the 2 little tabs that hook over the top, pop it off at them and it's cool,
I've had the VRS kickstand case on my phone for 2 weeks with no problems. I didn't use any of the adhesive strips and it doesn't slide at all. Already ordered a few more colors.
@@252ICEMAN The issue isn't always noticeable sliding, without adhesive, the micro-movements of the case can cause scratching as dust and grit accumulate in-between the case and the phone. Nothing wrong with running without adhesive but just make sure remove the case from time to time, and clean it out and give your phone a wipe down.
I did a fair bit of research before deciding on a case for my Fold 3. Each to their own, but I was really not keen on using a case that require adhesives. At the end, I've only found 3 cases that doesn't use adhesives. - Speck Presidio - Otterbox Symmetry Series - Foddom Dootoo I don't know much about the Dootoo case, but I'm quite keen to give that a try. From reading about the Otterbox case, it seems like it would benefit from adhesives, because it slides around. The Speck case however is actually connected at the top and bottom so it's 1 piece, and afaik, no other cases use this design. This means it shouldn't slide around, and doesn't require the need for adhesives. This is why I settled for the Speck case. Perhaps this is an alternative for those who, like me, would prefer not to use adhesives at all... Appreciate the PSA though :-)
Thanks for your recommendation. We ordered the Spigen Armor because we wanted the protection for the hinge, which is paramount to us...we are waiting on our phones and doing research now. They are just too expensive to slap on any old case, or to not protect properly. Will check out the cases you recommended.
why cant they just make a solid folding back piece with one clear side for the front screen and a rubber and plastic overlay for the front when open that fit inside each other that both folds! like the poetic case for the note 8 but double sided front and back!
Well I'm glad to hear you found my video informative! Hopefully, it helps you ensure you can confidently use adhesive cases with confidence, with the know how to avoid any damage to your phone!
I'm wish you made this Video for the Fold2 last year. Yet you made it and I'm happy you did. Unfortunately, I found this out with my Fold2. Bro, don't waste your Time explaining to people about how you run your Videos, if they don't like it. Keep Scrolling, Smh. Great Video Bro
On mine too. If u take a look at Jerry rigs everything teardown u can see the 5 g antenna on that side is inside the frame. With no cutout on the outside. I'm located in Norway.
I only ever use double sided for the front screen and at the front face like you have said, it also important to test the cases first some time the moulding tolerance effect the screen protector sometimes when fitted. So use a box cutter to scrap/remove some plastic material from the inside. And test before fitting. These cases don't allow for the antenna.
This video was very helpful!!! I have not received my z fold 3 yet, but purchased the incipio grip case which i plan on not removing for a very long time. I literally canceled an Amazon order for one of the cheaper clear cases. I am very OCD and baby all of my devices! I purchased the phantom silver
Well I'm glad to hear my video got to you before you got your new phone and that you'll know what to do to avoid any of the problems or damage I had to deal with!
I think it would be easier to just not use the adhesive in that particular section of the case and that way you would avoid damaging this section of the phone.
I have that spigen one too. never used the adhesive have had it since day 1. dropped 3 times nothing bad but two little bubbles on outside screen corner very small.
i took your advice and only applied the adhesive stickers for the front cover and only clipped off the sticker tab where it sticks out from the back cover without actually using any of the adhesives. Let me know how your Z fold 3 is holding up
So if I were to get that case just dont use the adheasives right?? Just clip it on and off you go? I was gonna get this one but ordered the Thin Fit P instead cause of the pen holder on the outside of the case..
Well actually, the adhesives are still okay to use, just avoid applying the adhesive over that area of the case. So either don't remove the adhesive backer or remove the adhesive from that area of the case entirely. Hope this helps!
TBH i still don't have a fold 3 but I would have tried to heat up the adhesive with a heat gun or a hair dryer before removing it. I'm not arguing that it is stupid to put the adhesive there in the first place...
You don't really need to use the adhesive. In fact if you are like me and plan to use different cases you shouldn't use them. However if you do I wonder if using a heat gun would make it easier to remove. Didn't realize he adhesive was so strong. Picking up my phone and the case tomorrow. Will try without the adhesive.
I dont know English. I have ordered several covers, but I still don't know what the problem is. I am translating this with the google translator. If someone could put me in writing, even in English, what the problem is and its solution, I would be very grateful. Greetings
Hey man, no problem! So the issue is that the US version of the phone and the version sold in certain other markets, has a plastic cover over a cutout in the top right of the frame of the phone. Most cases that use adhesive to attach themselves to the phone, have adhesive on this spot. When the case is removed, it can damage this cover, usually pulling it off. To avoid damage you should make sure to remove the adhesive in this area before you install a case. If you've already installed a case, using a different technique to remove it, is necessary.
That's a good tip! For most of the case that should be just fine. However, with the antenna cover region, it isn't a great idea as the heat will not only soften the case adhesive but the adhesive that holds the antenna cover in place as well.
That is exactly the solution I give in the "So you're thinking about installing a case with adhesive" section of the video. Thing is, people need to be aware of this problem first before they put a case on their phone or the stage is already set for damage to be done when they go to remove it. For example, I didn't know about this, myself, until I made the discovery when I damaged my phone during a case removal.
Hey, congrats on getting the Fold! So you actually don't need to worry about trying to find a non-adhesive case. The key is just making sure that you don't use the adhesive on the part of the case thats right over the antenna cover. You can either do this by simply not removing the adhesive backer that covers it, or you can just peel off the entire adhesive strip that's on that section of the case. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
How do you like the case so far? I thought about getting it for my fold3 but it has so many negative reviews. I ended up getting the Case Mate touch plus.
The Slim Armor? That's what I have on my phone now. Yeah I really like it. Best case I've used so far. Full coverage protection, including the hinge, but still much easier to use the front display.
Luckily for me the international version of the phone doesn't have mmwave antennae so there's no plastic cover on the side of mine. Still gets 5g just not the mmwave, not really a problem since I don't even have normal 5g in the middle of Wales
do the official sansung covers have advesive on the back or only on front part?. from what i have seen they seem only to have advesive tape on the front.
What a coincidence, that’s my post from Reddit 😂 great video, keep it up! 👍
No way! Well definitely good on you for letting others know about the issue on reddit!
Does anyone know where I can get that plastic cut out that is covering the 5g anttena?
Thanks for the warning and the solution! I just bought an adhesive case today so I'm VERY happy I saw this video before I put it on. Great work!
Hey that's great to hear! Every person's phone I save from my unfortunate mistake is mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks...I almost get my case on....
I have the z flip 3. Several cases have adhesive. I outright refused to use the adhesive strips. There is just too much potential to damage a decice. So glad you made a video addressing this issue.
Thanks for commenting!
So in a vacuum, by itself, the adhesive doesn't pose any risk to the aluminum the frame of of phone is made from. The real risk is if any of the adhesive strips lines up with the mmW 5G antenna cover, which is also present on the Z Flip 3, then damage can be done on removal.
The adhesive does serve an important purpose of anchoring the case in place to prevent scratches from fine dust particles due to minute movements and shifting of the case on the phone. The easiest way to safely avoid the antenna cover problem while also utilizing the adhesive is to simply check the location of all the adhesive strips in relation to the antenna cover first. If there's a strip that would sit right on top of it, remove that strip from the case. You can leave all the others in place. Then install the case as you would normally. It should now give you no problems!
Thank you for the warning. It’s a shame the Samsung design engineers didn’t think about how to anchor cases without adhesive. All it would have needed is some small detents in the frame.
That's not a samsung issue, that's a case manufacturer issue. They designed the case. I have 3 Samsung OEM cases for my Z Fold 3 and none of them use adhesive.
@@PMill id love a link to where we can all get the case you are saying you have. I looked on the Samsung website and didn't see a case for the Z Fold 3 yet. I'd love one with no adhesive. I'm currently using Spigen with adhesives but haven't used the adhesive.
@@PMill Samsung silicon has adhesives
@@PMill not true. I got the "carbon fiber" looking case with my fold3 from Samsung and it's adhesive...
Hey mate, I'm not in the US I'm in Australia but up until early this year I worked for Samsung in the mobile servicing department. Given Ive not seen or handled the Fold 3 but I did on the Fold 1 and 2 plus the normal Note and S series devices with the IP ratings. I'm pretty confident that your concerns are warranted regarding liquid ingress into the device. The issue you'll (possibly) have is that they'll most likely class it as physical damage. With the Fold devices due to the way they're manufactured, I'm pretty sure they'll require the entire frame to be replaced. Using an example, if say you drop your phone and you dent in your volume or power button...due to the way the LCD module is manufactured, they can't replace just the buttons. The entire screen would need to be replaced entirely. That would apply to the Fold 3 presumably. The bitch with the Folds is that the inner display is also a part of the frame and comes as one part pre installed. So, definitely contact Samsung in your area just for confirmation. I'm not sure how strict they are in the US regarding warranty, but here in AUS it's very black and white. Perhaps since it's so new they might be nice, but prepare yourself for the possibility of having a largeish payout get it sorted.
Thanks for this insider perspective. We are doing a lot of research prior to our phones arriving.
@@d1nonlysnshn No problem at all, also, avoid going to any 3rd party repairers. They may be cheaper than Samsung if an out of pocket cost is required but they usually aren't authorized and sometimes don't use genuine parts or have the correct machines needed to repair the phones properly. A lot of people go there to save time/money but the phone usually ends up costing more as it breaks or has issues. If Samsung confirm this during inspection it's not covered under warranty
@@benphillips9973 I work at a ubreakifix in the US and we're partnered with Samsung to do their repairs with genuine parts. I can absolutely say water damage is is considered physical damage and is not covered under the warranty and it is a hefty chunk of change for a display repair, like $550+ for the inner display. You are also correct that the buttons would require a full frame replacement and the inner display is attached so it's that same $550+ price to replace the frame or hinge!
@@isaiah3565 Cheer mate, I appreciate the reply to confirm my suspicions. I'm from the US originally but left in 2009 before the smartphone game really took off. I wasn't sure if Samsung repaired directly in the US or used a licensed 3rd party repairer like they do over here. Good to know which company, I've heard good things about you guys
The problem is case companies use way too much adhesive. You just need small strips on each corner.
I treat my zfold 3 like my iPad had it about a week and opened it tonight and there in big black bar going down it =[[ I love this phone😢
It happened to mine last night too
man, you saved me a lot of hassle, while prying the case off I noticed the plastic cover was about to come off, I watched your video and was able to get the case out using your method
Thank you so much
Hey man that's great to hear! I'm glad you were able to learn from my experience before damaging your own phone! Thanks for watching!
Good to know as I am a fan of spigens slim cheap cases. I usually take my cases off once in awhile to clean around the edges where it meets the phone and retty much every time I find a little bit of dust/dirt on back/sides between case and phone as well. Not much on good cases but enough that you keep in mind to clean it once in awhile to prevent the debris from causing damage.
Have you tried using a heat gun or hair dryer before removing the adhesive?, i use hair dryer and the adhesive easily removed btw
Oh for sure, a heat gun or hair dryer would help! But unfortunately, I like most new Z Fold 3 owners, wasn't aware of the risk of damage until I'd already made the mistake of pulling a case off the wrong way.
@@ctuan13 good to know! Thanks for the information
Great video and u have a new subscriber! I use a Spigen case and I never knew these issues for the Z Fold 3. Much appreciated 👍🏾
Thanks man! I really appreciate this information. I actually have the exact same case on my phone that you have on your phone in the video. I need to take it off to redo the screen protector, so this information has been really helpful. 👍🏻
Lucky on my z fold 2 its not an issue , with both spigen cases they come off very easly without any distruction , you could on the fold 3 case remove the glue by the 5g section , water proofing of the phone was a spray coating over the boards ect so no problem with your loose 5g antenna cover
Just bought the Fold 3 yesterday. I bought the samsung silicone case with it which doesn't use adhesive on the right side of the phone (where the 5G antennae is), but I ordered the Spigen Slim case (that you have currently) which does use tape on the right side so you saved me a future headache for sure. I loved how thorough you were with everything and I can't thank you enough. Subscribed!
Thank you so much. I'm getting my new phone soon so I'm glad I saw this first.
So I have the slim armor pro case. I like to switch cases so I didn't wanna use adhesives but that became an issue when opening the phone. The left half of the phone always slid out. But I realized that the right side fits so tightly that it doesn't move at all. So I used the adhesive on the left side and not on the right and everything works perfectly. Glad I don't have to worry about this issue.
Thanks for the tip. Have you experienced the front screen protector lifting with this case?
@@emmcee476 not for the preinstalled one but it did with the whitestone dome ez glass
I ripped off the antenna cover removing my case in my local assurion brick and mortar repair store today lol luckily my phone is having the inner display replaced which involves replacing the entire body of the phone. The Inner screen developed stress fractures down the center where it folds. Z fold 3 5G
Hey, any adhesive will come off easily if you heat it up a little with a hair dryer or heat gun. Be careful with the latter though
kinda of like duh. I i guess a ton of people dont think. Im using the official silicon one. It only has a small adhesive on the front screen on the left side. Works fine.
I would never use a case that uses that much adhesive and really not one thats on the sides of the phone.
But also you can use a drop of IPA (rubbing alcohol). This i will loosen/ dissolve the glue
Well yeah, I definitely hope we see more cases come out that can stay in place without adhesive and still avoid sliding around.
As for your suggestion about isopropyl alcohol, normally that would be a great idea and actually for almost every other spot where there's adhesive on the case, a small drop can help.
But when it comes to the sensitive antenna cover area, there is a high risk of the alcohol seeping underneath the antenna cover and causing its own adhesive to weaken, which would only increase the risk of damage during removal of the case.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your vid. I loooove detailed explanations. They are needed to get the full picture. So keep doing what you do. I will subscribe.
We ordered our Folds last week. The 512s will take 30-60 days to arrive. So we are doing a lot of research now. We decided on the Spigen Armor because we wanted the protection for the hinge, which is paramount to us.
I am really sorry abt the damage to your phone and I do appreciate you using your misfortune to help others avoid this damage to our phones.
I also think makers of these cases should include a warning to NOT put the adhesive on that part of the phone.
Yes, more than likely the water tightness is compromised...😫
I have spigen slim armor pro on my Z Fold 3.
This video was very informative. Thank you.
I've got the Spigen with full hinge protection & it has adhesive but is the best protection for this $1800 phone, it's worth every bit of the $80 I spent for it.
yea.. putting adhesive on a $1800 phone, limiting ability to remove the case at leisure, never resonated with me -- therefore, skipped on that option.. I also heard about how some cases (particularly the cheap cases) left markings on the zfold... Based on that, I decided (at least for now) to stick with the Samsung case pen case (mentioned not to leave damage), and will try using both an elastic band to keep from flapping when not in use and a wireless charger friendly ceramic Finger ring holder kickstand...
Thank you so much. I just watched your other video on the case and purchased it and then, luckily saw this one.
i don’t have these case, but i would use a few drops of 91% rubbing alcohol or denatured alcohol on each adhesive contact point to loosen the adhesive before removing the case
Normally, this would be a pretty good suggestion for helping adhesive come off, but in this case, it's not a good idea since the alcohol can also seep in behind the antenna cover and weaken the adhesive holding it down as well.
Hopefully that makes sense! Thanks for watching!
I've used the Spigen Slim Armor Pro on my ZF2 and now my ZF3. I've had the Spigen Tough Armor too. Never had this problem taking the cases off intact. Never damaged my phone.
It would be nice if Samsung made a "Tough" or "Rugged" version of the Fold. Models years ago that were popular, would have one of these versions for people who were rough on their phones.
We almost never carry our phones around without a case. You'd think that Samsung would pay attention.
Same, not one issue. No idea what these kids are on about. Maybe if they move out of mommy and daddy's house, their intelligence may improve.
I removed the case with the fold well folded. I started on the front, middle of the screen. Go the front off no issue. The back was different, the glue felt stronger and I had to pop the corners first then pushed the case on the side straight back pushing the case off and it still ripped that cover off. What now.
Never mind. The glue tape was not distributed but on one side on the edge and I just smoothed the glue over with my finger nail, stuck the cover back in the slot. I pressed on it for a bit and after an hour accidentally drop it in my kitchen sink and it appears to still be waterproof. So yeah that worked kinda. But i have the same case that's ok his phone in the video but im not peeling of the backing of the replacement sticky glue tape to avoid that hassle again.
I have the UB supcase with hinge protection on my Z Fold 4 and it had no adhesive only in one spot that's the top were the pre installed screen protector is thats for dust prevention purposes
Thanks for the heads up! Dont have the phone yet cuz they were out of stock but already looking at cases and the ones I found all have adhesive
Wow man... its just the right timing... only a day left for my backordered slim armor pro to arrive.. I am so glad I watched... Real value addition buddy.. you have just saved so many smartphones.. Good job..
Thanks for the kind words, man! I'm glad you found my video helpful!
Hopefully with just a couple tweaks, your new case works great without any damage to your phone.
Thanks for watching!
What about not using the adhesive in the upper right corner, but placing a piece of wax paper or electrical tape in the corner of the case? I had read about some people doing this to also prevent phone abrasions.
That's essentially the exact solution I provided at the end of the video for those that had not yet installed such an adhesive-based case on their phone. For those that have already caused significant damage though, that wont' work.
The only good thing is, after speaking with several people who have been in direct contact with samsung it appears that the external cover isn't critical for waterproofing so even if it falls off completely, other than being a cosmetic blemish, it shouldn't have any affect on the IP rating.
@@ctuan13 OK thanks. I watched your entire video and must have missed that suggestion about the electrical tape or wax paper.
@@UA-cam.Algorithmic.Nonsense Ahh well actually I more meant the first part about removing the adhesive. The exact suggestion I gave in the video was to keep the adhesive in place and simply avoid removing the wax paper backer.
In my case since I did partially damage the adhesive of the antenna cover, in addition to leaving the adhesive and backer in place, I also put several layers of folded thin card stock between the case and the side of my phone to apply enough pressure to keep the antenna cover from lifting.
@@ctuan13 I was looking at the case and the upper right lip seems to be somewhat sharp. I saw a suggestion of putting something over the sharp edge, like a small piece electrical tape. Maybe this was more of a problem with the Fold 2, but I had read it was causing a fair amount of friction scratches. I'm basically trying to read and watch a number of videos before I get the balls to slap on the Spigen slim armor case.
i have a z fold 3 in the uk, that antena cover isnt on the phone here, its identical to every other section
I appreciate this video. I just ordered my Z Fold3 today as well as a couple cases to try out. Once I pick a case I'm going to make sure to keep the adhesive in that specific area covered so it does not adhere to the antenna cover. Thank you for the heads up! I paused at 6:44 to make this comment.
Companies should start including the adhesive separate
I hate cases with adhesive mostly bc it just feels too permanent
I like to admire my phone AND get protection
Did you like the tough armor or the slim armor pro better? I'm not sure about the bulky spine protection on the slim armor pro. Also, which one feels less bulky to you? Did you have any problems typing or using pull up or drop down menus with the lips on these cases when closed?
I have issues typing one-handed with the tough armor on my Z Fold 2
So I actually thought the same thing, that I'd hate the Slim Armor's thicker hinge protection which is why I initially went with the the Tough Armor.
But between the sliding hinge protection constantly hanging up upon opening requiring a concerted effort to open without binding, to the oversized lip on the front, making swiping everywhere but from the top, almost impossible, I realized I made the wrong choice.
Ultimately, I think the Slim Armor Pro, still offers plenty of protection but is ergonomically a much better choice. How it feels in the hand and in terms of usability is night and day.
Hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
Great info. Still waiting to get my case but great to know beforehand.
Great video thanks for sharing
That exact Spigen Tough Armor Case, but the Fold2 Version and it Scratched my Fold up.
Great Video! Very in depth! I own the z fold 2, I have scratches all over the metal frame on the front from these worthless cases!!!
Good advice I'm waiting for my phone to arrive so I'll keep this in mind.
Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of this as I've only had the phone for a week or so. Still looking for another case as the official Samsung one is crap! Subscribed.
Can heat be applied onto that section of the case I'm pretty sure it won't affect the phones body and would allow it to come off easily.
Thanks for the informational tips. What case are you using in this video? Looks nice. My Fold 3 is on the way. I need a good case.
I'm the video, the case I've got on my Fold 3 is the Slim Armor Pro. You can find the link in the description.
Thanks for watching.
i had a z flip 3 and i at first used the otterbox - No issues - then bought the samsung oem ring case - my screen was fried within 3 days i was livid with samsung not wanting to take any resposibility !
Thank you for this info. This will be my 1st fold and I was having a funny feeling about putting a case on with adhesive on it..to me it doesn't make any sense to put something sticky on a device that cost an arm and a kidney. I'll keep looking for a case without adhesives, thank you!
I'm glad you found my video helpful! I agree it's frustrating to have to deal with adhesive on cases. But you actually don't have to avoid adhesive cases entirely. Like I stated in the video, all you have to do is remove the adhesive on that particular section of the case over the antenna cover and you should avoid all issues with damaging the antenna cover.
Beautiful video. Absolutely love it. Very informative.
Thank you for the kind words! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video helped alot
i had my cover put on yesterday and placed the l'ttle strips of tape but just on the screen side but apparently ddn't work😅 because i guess a didn't put it right.well explanation .good vid.. my regards ! 🙂👍
Hey man I appreciate it. Sorry to hear you went through that but the fact that you have made a video to warn the rest of us is really helpful and I appreciate it. You just got a sub! Keep grinding hopefully your channel blows up.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad to hear you found it helpful. If I can save even one other person's brand new Fold from damage, it was worth it!
Great tips throughout the video. Now I know when I take off my Slim Armor Pro what to do. I may also use a hair dryer to preserve the case.
I found out the hard way with my spigen armor case for $80.00 when I went to take the case off now I just remove that sticky tab above the volume button so it won't happen again it's just a cover you'll still water protection I called Samsung it's just there to cover that part of the phone I just pushed it back in and it was fine didn't come back off but Samsung could of did this a better way with 1 or 2 small screws so it would stay on
Great thank you for the advice, I ordered a vrs kickstand case yesterday and I'm glad that I know this info now.
Great video bro! I would’ve never even thought of this had I not seen this video. Thanks! 👍🏾 I have the s pen case and I literally tried to take it off while watching this video. 😄 I was so nervous bro! It doesn’t even have adhesive and I was still nervous! 😆 Again great vid bro! 👍🏾😎 P.S. Guys never go Full Guerrilla mode!!! 😂👏🏾
Yeah man it can be a bit tricky, but just go slow and you should be okay. And adhesive cases are also okay, provided you remove the adhesive from the affected area on the case. And yes, always avoid full gorilla mode! 😂
Thanks for watching!
I know right, I have the spen case and struggled to get it off first time, then I noticed the 2 little tabs that hook over the top, pop it off at them and it's cool,
Does anyone know where I can get that plastic cut out that is covering the 5g anttena?
Vrs design cases come with adhesive that's not installed. When mine comes I'll not put any on that spot.
That's a good plan! Do that and you should be good to go!
I've had the VRS kickstand case on my phone for 2 weeks with no problems. I didn't use any of the adhesive strips and it doesn't slide at all. Already ordered a few more colors.
@@252ICEMAN The issue isn't always noticeable sliding, without adhesive, the micro-movements of the case can cause scratching as dust and grit accumulate in-between the case and the phone. Nothing wrong with running without adhesive but just make sure remove the case from time to time, and clean it out and give your phone a wipe down.
@@ctuan13 Great points. Before your video, i was not aware of those concerns. Much appreciated and keep up the great work. 👍
I don't use case with adhesives. Most of the cases I buy clips to the back of the phone and it just snaps in place when applied.
I did a fair bit of research before deciding on a case for my Fold 3. Each to their own, but I was really not keen on using a case that require adhesives. At the end, I've only found 3 cases that doesn't use adhesives.
- Speck Presidio
- Otterbox Symmetry Series
- Foddom Dootoo
I don't know much about the Dootoo case, but I'm quite keen to give that a try. From reading about the Otterbox case, it seems like it would benefit from adhesives, because it slides around. The Speck case however is actually connected at the top and bottom so it's 1 piece, and afaik, no other cases use this design. This means it shouldn't slide around, and doesn't require the need for adhesives. This is why I settled for the Speck case.
Perhaps this is an alternative for those who, like me, would prefer not to use adhesives at all...
Appreciate the PSA though :-)
Thanks for your recommendation. We ordered the Spigen Armor because we wanted the protection for the hinge, which is paramount to us...we are waiting on our phones and doing research now. They are just too expensive to slap on any old case, or to not protect properly. Will check out the cases you recommended.
why cant they just make a solid folding back piece with one clear side for the front screen and a rubber and plastic overlay for the front when open that fit inside each other that both folds! like the poetic case for the note 8 but double sided front and back!
Thank you for the warning!
Can you recommend a good case with an S pen holder?
I was thinking of buying the offical case that comes with the S pen
Which is on sale atm
Great analysis, being somewhat OCD myself I am constantly on the lookout for stuff like this.
Well I'm glad to hear you found my video informative! Hopefully, it helps you ensure you can confidently use adhesive cases with confidence, with the know how to avoid any damage to your phone!
I'm wish you made this Video for the Fold2 last year. Yet you made it and I'm happy you did. Unfortunately, I found this out with my Fold2. Bro, don't waste your Time explaining to people about how you run your Videos, if they don't like it. Keep Scrolling, Smh. Great Video Bro
I appreciate the kind words, bro! Thanks for watching!
@@ctuan13 Keep doing what you doing Bro. Welcome to the Fold Family Bro
I removed adhesive that comes with the case and change to double tape for paper, i never had a problem like this...
Good looking out fortunately I took the adhesive off before I put the phone in the case.
Interesting. The European version of the Fold 3 doesn't have this antenna cover. It has a completely smooth side above the volume rocker.
On mine too. If u take a look at Jerry rigs everything teardown u can see the 5 g antenna on that side is inside the frame. With no cutout on the outside. I'm located in Norway.
Thank god I saw this video....will put on cover exactly the way you have demonstrated....still my phone hasn’t arrived yet
So like, 99% of all cases for the foldables?
I only ever use double sided for the front screen and at the front face like you have said, it also important to test the cases first some time the moulding tolerance effect the screen protector sometimes when fitted. So use a box cutter to scrap/remove some plastic material from the inside. And test before fitting. These cases don't allow for the antenna.
This video was very helpful!!! I have not received my z fold 3 yet, but purchased the incipio grip case which i plan on not removing for a very long time. I literally canceled an Amazon order for one of the cheaper clear cases. I am very OCD and baby all of my devices! I purchased the phantom silver
Well I'm glad to hear my video got to you before you got your new phone and that you'll know what to do to avoid any of the problems or damage I had to deal with!
@@ctuan13 You have a new subbie🙋🏽♀️
I think it would be easier to just not use the adhesive in that particular section of the case and that way you would avoid damaging this section of the phone.
Absolutely. That's exactly the suggested solution I provide at the end of the video.
Thanks for watching!
I have that spigen one too. never used the adhesive have had it since day 1. dropped 3 times nothing bad but two little bubbles on outside screen corner very small.
Why would anyone put the adhesive on the back of the phone when it doesn’t require it? Only the front cover needs it not to slip off when opening
i took your advice and only applied the adhesive stickers for the front cover and only clipped off the sticker tab where it sticks out from the back cover without actually using any of the adhesives. Let me know how your Z fold 3 is holding up
So if I were to get that case just dont use the adheasives right?? Just clip it on and off you go? I was gonna get this one but ordered the Thin Fit P instead cause of the pen holder on the outside of the case..
Well actually, the adhesives are still okay to use, just avoid applying the adhesive over that area of the case. So either don't remove the adhesive backer or remove the adhesive from that area of the case entirely.
Hope this helps!
Hence why I only use the adhesive on the hinge side of the case.
TBH i still don't have a fold 3 but I would have tried to heat up the adhesive with a heat gun or a hair dryer before removing it. I'm not arguing that it is stupid to put the adhesive there in the first place...
Super useful advice, thanks.
You don't really need to use the adhesive. In fact if you are like me and plan to use different cases you shouldn't use them. However if you do I wonder if using a heat gun would make it easier to remove. Didn't realize he adhesive was so strong. Picking up my phone and the case tomorrow. Will try without the adhesive.
Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for the warning Man.
I dont know English. I have ordered several covers, but I still don't know what the problem is. I am translating this with the google translator. If someone could put me in writing, even in English, what the problem is and its solution, I would be very grateful.
Greetings
Hey man, no problem!
So the issue is that the US version of the phone and the version sold in certain other markets, has a plastic cover over a cutout in the top right of the frame of the phone. Most cases that use adhesive to attach themselves to the phone, have adhesive on this spot. When the case is removed, it can damage this cover, usually pulling it off.
To avoid damage you should make sure to remove the adhesive in this area before you install a case. If you've already installed a case, using a different technique to remove it, is necessary.
Turn the device off and apply directed heat (blow dryer) to the corners of the case. Far less struggle.
That's a good tip! For most of the case that should be just fine. However, with the antenna cover region, it isn't a great idea as the heat will not only soften the case adhesive but the adhesive that holds the antenna cover in place as well.
Why don't you not put the adhesive where the antenna is and rather just apply it everywhere else? Wouldn't that solve the antenna issue ?
That is exactly the solution I give in the "So you're thinking about installing a case with adhesive" section of the video. Thing is, people need to be aware of this problem first before they put a case on their phone or the stage is already set for damage to be done when they go to remove it.
For example, I didn't know about this, myself, until I made the discovery when I damaged my phone during a case removal.
Since everywhere else has adhesive, they should remove the cover thats covering the 5mm wave wifi
I have already purchased UNDER ARMOR GEAR CIVILIAN case before getting delivery of my Z FOLD 3 so what do I do?
Please let us know how Samsung responds 🙏
Thank you appreciate the video
I have a few dead pixels on the outer display now because of how hard I had to press because of the adhesive.
Oh no! That's not good! Yeah luckily not an issue I had but definitely gotta be careful removing adhesive cases, sometimes it's stuck on super tight!
Thanks for the heads up!
This case scratch the fold 2 hinge from inside with time. HAPPEDED, any one faced same. spigen armor pro
Just got my fold .. I hope to find a non tape case ??? And if not what case should I get?
Hey, congrats on getting the Fold! So you actually don't need to worry about trying to find a non-adhesive case. The key is just making sure that you don't use the adhesive on the part of the case thats right over the antenna cover.
You can either do this by simply not removing the adhesive backer that covers it, or you can just peel off the entire adhesive strip that's on that section of the case.
Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
the official Samsung case uses an adhesive strip tho
Weirdly my z fold 3 don't have this cut out. I tried to find it all around it and it really don't have it... weird
TBH you really don't need adhesive on the back (camera) cover usually, especially tpu
Blow dryer for a few seconds and you're good to remove.
Is the adhesive near the screen safe?
I got Samsung case designed for z fold 3 with spen and bought spen pro both great
How do you like the case so far? I thought about getting it for my fold3 but it has so many negative reviews. I ended up getting the Case Mate touch plus.
The Slim Armor? That's what I have on my phone now. Yeah I really like it. Best case I've used so far. Full coverage protection, including the hinge, but still much easier to use the front display.
Great information!!!! Thanks for that.
Luckily for me the international version of the phone doesn't have mmwave antennae so there's no plastic cover on the side of mine. Still gets 5g just not the mmwave, not really a problem since I don't even have normal 5g in the middle of Wales
Thanks, but bro, just say be careful of antenna in US and UK model on top right hand side in 30 sec :D
Or...just heat up the phone a bit with a hair dryer....that's what I did
do the official sansung covers have advesive on the back or only on front part?.
from what i have seen they seem only to have advesive tape on the front.