Hi, I fitted the Provent for my Sahara last August when the car was a month old. It’s in about the same position as yours and I’m very happy with the fit. I managed to get the hoses under the engine cover and trimmed the them about 30mm to get a nice fit. My hoses run along under the air con hose and I made a metal hose clamp so the the air con and ProVent hoses don’t touch. Cheers Stuart. 🇦🇺
Great videos and I watched three in a row and wants to have more even this late. Thanks so much for your effort. Just one nitpik though.. can the intro volumn and the voice volum be adjusted closer to each other? I am constanly dropping my volumn and the beginning and raising it backup when the content starts. Again, thanks for producing great content and I thoroughly enjoyed.
I fitted a universal RCC360 kit to my ZD30 Gu Patrol, I'm really not a fan of how much pressure the hoses to & from the catch can put on the plastic crankcase ventilation fittings on both the valve cover and the intake hose, pretty sure if I do some heavy offroading or a long patch of corrugations they're going to crack & snap and the ute won't be driveable with a big hole in the air intake past the MAF. At some point I'm going to have to make a few brackets just to carry the hoses and get them out of the way. And just like you said it makes a bit of a pigsty of the engine bay, the only way I could fit the hoses was to cable tie them to the intake and heater hoses, not ideal. I also have a leaking seal on my valve cover around the #1 injector, its been letting blowby gases leak out and collect oil all over the top of the valve cover and gather as puddles around the injector tops - the only way to replace it is to replace the whole valve cover which sucks - Anyway the point is ever since the catch can's been on it seems like a lot more oil is coming past that seal - to me this suggests that the catch can is increasing the crankcase air pressure, which isn't good..
Yep. I’m still running no filter in mine. The filters are just too restrictive, I should take it off but figured it probably does something without the filter and shouldn’t be causing too much pressure .
I’ve got a D22 navara and I’m about to go rip my ryco catch can off after watching this because if has heaps of blow by since I’ve installed the catch can thanks for the video and heads up
So I’ve got an RCC350 and after watching this went to take a look at mine. I’ve got no engine issues I can see but I’ve looked around the catch can over pressure relief and it’s clearly vented a few times in it’s like as there is oily residue around that on the car bodywork. I pulled the lid to inspect the check valve and I can’t see how it would restrict flow. Super soft spring. So I decided to remove the inlet tube and blow down it. I found it surprisingly difficult to blow down. I then removed the filter element and tried again. Zero resistance. Now I’m not sure what sort of differential pressure is normal but I was very surprised of how hard it was. Check valve or not, the element is the cause of resistance and id love to see this element flow tested against a provent 200 element in dirty conditions
@@JebbreysJibberish indeed. If it is the element then be careful and keep an eye on your new one as they only said the lack of check valve is the difference and maybe the baffle at the base of the element. I want to compare my old element to a new one and see the difference in resistance and whether the weave is tight enough to capture particulates that block it faster than others. Hmmmm I’d love to get these on a rig and flow test them professionally
Ten out of ten for tenacity mate. After the Ryco catch can issue before, I thought you would have wised-up and bought a Provent 200 (like you should have done in the first place).
You might very well be right. But the stuff was there and I’m pretty confident the new model won’t replicate the issue I had so it’s worth a try. Of course I am watching it very closely this time around. The slightest look of any issue will see it come straight out and a Provent go in.
351 is an awsome product so effective at removal of sludge you won’t believe how much is pulled from the egr valve after 2000 km or so when the filter reaches saturation point
Just done about 500kms and looking in the drain valve pipe the deep dark black sludge in there is crazy. I’m glad I’m not putting that through my turbo and intercooler.
@@JebbreysJibberish I have formed a bit of a theory....I have a 2012 Chev Silverado Duramax 6.6 litre diesel and have fitted an Amsoil dual bypass oil filtration system. With this set-up I can easily extend the oil interval changes to 20,000klm or beyond....and the oil is still honey-coloured when I change it. I change the primary filter every 10,000klm and then change both filters and the oil every 20,000klm. When I check the Provent 200 at the time I change the filter/s (ie: every 10,000klm) there's lucky to be 50mm in the drain tube. I reckon the MUCH MUCH cleaner oil, courtesy of the very fine filtration of the bypass filter, is the main reason I'm getting buggar-all blow-by.
Provent 200 change pressure relief now blows into the return line to turbo and not to atmosphere. The changes are simple, relief valve in bottom of filter element and they provide plastic parts to remove relief valve in the lid assembly.
Fix your fuel line by replacing those plastic nipple/quick change fittings with a brass nipple. Makes it slightly more difficult to remove the filter, but not much, and gives way more clearance to the catch can. trim a bit off the connecting hose to suit.
I’ve taken the filter out of the catch can and am just passing it through. I also had a flow issue with the fuel filter but Ryco have sent me an updated manifold which has solved it. I’d like to do a video on that soon.
Liked and subscribed, thank you for both this and your previous video, answered many of my questions re catch cans, great work mate! Please let us know if you feel the fuel filter degrades performance at all.
Neat enough. Perhaps shorten the catch can hoses - you don't want too much pressure and vibration on the plastic catch can receiver nozzles or on the catch can..it seems they use the slide fit to the bracket to decouple the catch can from the bracket. Good for vibration in the up down direction, not so useful for horizontal vibration. The constant push from the hoses and that horizontal vibration may end up breaking the catch can plastic as it hardens with age. Enjoy your vids - thanks JJ.
Thanks Benny. Yeah haven’t thought about the plastic fatiguing… the other one had been there a while and seemed to be ok but a couple of hot summers will test it that’s for sure. Yeah thinking I might trim a bit off…
I had a Flash Lube Catch Can Pro fitted to my GX 220 Landcruiser. Basically it is a Provent 100 which is great if you are short of room but is always worried me as I recon it was too small for the 200. Anyway I decided to fit a Provent 200 instead as the capacity is okay and everybody seems to fit them. In the process of fitting the Provent 200 I was having lunch and came across Berima Diesel on UA-cam discussing the Provent 100 as it was too small causing problems on a Landcruiser. Anyway because I did not have much room in the engine bay I installed the new catch can in front of the radiator, I saw someone else had to do the same thing (where I got the idea) but it works great and it`s out of the way. Just one thing replace the clear drain hose with oil resistant hose as the clear tube gets hard and brittle, transmission hose is good for this purpose. I hope you new model cause no grief as it must have been very distressing for you on a new engine.
J/J. Has anyone looked into installing a pop-off valve after your intercooler sir ? Wasn't sure if LC200 owners understand when their engine operates under "EGR" control, or if it does under 'full noise' ! V.
@@JebbreysJibberish J/J. Pop-off valve can be seen on the 'Absorbite' YT Channel used to prevent over-boosting ! Maybe look at fitting a "Banks Power" module to your LC200, so it's always dialed upto 11 and no EGR operation ? V.
I’ve taken the filter out of the catch can as the front seal leaks seamed to be worse with it in. I think the damage to the seals was already done. I also had some issues with the secondary fuel filter that I want to do a video on later, I have since solved those issues though.
I own a direct injected engine. I read adding a secondary filter adds unnecessary work for a pump. Better off just having regular filter changes. Great content mate keep it up 🍺
That was part of the issue, however it has been resolved and has been working good. Fuel filters are a tricky one, I love rural and had a pump in my old patrol ruined by contamination and I changed my filter every 10k. It was $2k for an old TD42 pump replacement, god only knows how much a 1VD pump would be, and that’s not to mention the $8k worth of injectors.
@@JebbreysJibberish Sorry I meant the old Provent 100 that was only rated up to 100KW. Yes I have noticed on their web page today there is new provent2 models.
I'm here to learn. I have no comments on the choices other than , clearly you can't use the other model . That was a huge mess . I was stunned into subbing just for your suffering .
So this gave me a freakout, Ive got a 4JJ1 Rodeo and the engine has blown the rings, its driven me a bit nuts not being able to find the reason then i watch this. About half a year or so ago i installed a Ryco catch can so had me thinking aw fuck did i do this to myself but upon checking the order it is the 351K model so...shouldn't have this restriction issue like the 350, but as Ive got another 4J going in ill just be monitoring the CC very closely now, checking blow by pressure best i can and all that. knew i should have gotten a provent. 20/20 hindsight they say. My current theory was prev owner, like your own experience, had dusted the motor (i hate buying off P platers) or had messed with the motor too much, in amateur fashion (found their "attempts" to circumvent the EGR system, first with a blanking plate, then a drilled blanking plate and i assume final move, a resistor in the IAT sensor line to just fool the ECM). But maybe my choice of CC has played a part. We shall, hopefully, see. Also just wanted to say Ive stumbled upon you from John Cadogen aka Auto Expert response to your cheeky "piss take" vid of him and i say i do agree with the points you made in the video. Youre absolutely right that John has a lot of good information, i cant express how much i agree with him on the 3.5T rating thing all the utes are barking up atm but you're also right that he is a city bloke and doesn't much admire the bushbashing and overlanding experience either. Thats fine for you both to have that and i find its good to get content from both sides. Engineers aint always right but they do get A LOT right when you consider how comprehensive and complex a modern car is now. Keep up the good work, ill wave to ya from ym road train if i see your 200 going passed ;)
Yeah sounds like we both got a bad deal. I’ve been pretty lucky and pretty careful with al the cars I’ve bought in the past (and there’s been a lot!). It’s the first time I’ve been caught out and I must admit I dropped my guard on this one so it was my own fault. As far as the 351 goes, yeah be very careful and monitor very closely as we know how things can go wrong pretty quick.
Please explain why it is that you need a catch can. My engine rebuild bloke says “what ever you do NEVER install a catch can. It’s completely unnecessary and harmful “. It just doesn’t make sense
The VDJ engines breathe heavily and dump the nasty black watery Vegimite into one turbo only. It also mixes with the EGR gasses and creates a thick black paste that blocks up your intake and valves over time.
@@cmmsng but what does it matter if a trail of oil is fed back through.. ?? surely Toyota engine designers understand this when designing an engine. They can’t be completely stupid.. those of us who are non-believers of catch cans don’t experience premature engine failure ( unlike those that seem to install them)
@@camh7788 a non catch can user believe that God will look after his car. A catch can user believes in looooong term maintenance for a better full life, not a underrated life that will earn you a nice "cheap" intake clean every 100k
@@camh7788 the catch can would be the 1st thing I would install when getting a diesel 4WD. I had my 200 intake cleaned about 6 months ago and it cost me $1200 and was pretty thick. I would also only stick with provent 200. You will need a clean around 130000. If you owned a Ram it would be as low as 60-70000.
Sorry, but that catch can is a train wreck. Filter removal should be easy, not impossible. Having the outlet in the top cover not the base is just stupid design, and needing to undo 4 difficult fasteners is just plain stupid. Piss the thing off and get a Provent. The hoses look crap too, but they are needed. The scuff covering will prevent chafing.
Good videos smooth production. Might even sub... Can you do me a small favour and throw a cap on your air con test/fill valve... You'll thank me later...
@@jasper287 I used one for the first 50k on my Hilux and then when I got my intake system carbon cleaned, my mechanic convinced me to take it off. I did and did another 50k, then had the intake done again and he said it was no different than the first time. The oil that the catch can collects would just get burned off through the exhaust system anyway.
It still fouls up your intercooler on the way through too though. Oil isn’t a great thermal conductor so having your intercooler coated with oil mist surely wouldn’t be good fit it’s efficiency? Or am I wrong?
@@greenslawngarden7809 what brand catch can. Because not all catch can's are equal and many don't do what you believe. Many continuous duty diesel engine's come from manufacturers with built in catch can systems believe or not. And if you believe, trust Toyota engineers so much why in the world have you had 2x intake cleans at 50k apart. Sounds like you have some issues you're not discussing
Hi, I fitted the Provent for my Sahara last August when the car was a month old. It’s in about the same position as yours and I’m very happy with the fit. I managed to get the hoses under the engine cover and trimmed the them about 30mm to get a nice fit. My hoses run along under the air con hose and I made a metal hose clamp so the the air con and ProVent hoses don’t touch. Cheers Stuart. 🇦🇺
Great videos and I watched three in a row and wants to have more even this late. Thanks so much for your effort.
Just one nitpik though.. can the intro volumn and the voice volum be adjusted closer to each other? I am constanly dropping my volumn and the beginning and raising it backup when the content starts.
Again, thanks for producing great content and I thoroughly enjoyed.
Cheers for the feedback, I’ll have a look at that for the next one. 👍 I’m glad that
you have been enjoying them.
I fitted a universal RCC360 kit to my ZD30 Gu Patrol, I'm really not a fan of how much pressure the hoses to & from the catch can put on the plastic crankcase ventilation fittings on both the valve cover and the intake hose, pretty sure if I do some heavy offroading or a long patch of corrugations they're going to crack & snap and the ute won't be driveable with a big hole in the air intake past the MAF.
At some point I'm going to have to make a few brackets just to carry the hoses and get them out of the way.
And just like you said it makes a bit of a pigsty of the engine bay, the only way I could fit the hoses was to cable tie them to the intake and heater hoses, not ideal.
I also have a leaking seal on my valve cover around the #1 injector, its been letting blowby gases leak out and collect oil all over the top of the valve cover and gather as puddles around the injector tops - the only way to replace it is to replace the whole valve cover which sucks - Anyway the point is ever since the catch can's been on it seems like a lot more oil is coming past that seal - to me this suggests that the catch can is increasing the crankcase air pressure, which isn't good..
Yep. I’m still running no filter in mine. The filters are just too restrictive, I should take it off but figured it probably does something without the filter and shouldn’t be causing too much pressure .
I’ve got a D22 navara and I’m about to go rip my ryco catch can off after watching this because if has heaps of blow by since I’ve installed the catch can thanks for the video and heads up
Is it a 350 or 351? Try removing the check valve at the top of its a 350
So I’ve got an RCC350 and after watching this went to take a look at mine. I’ve got no engine issues I can see but I’ve looked around the catch can over pressure relief and it’s clearly vented a few times in it’s like as there is oily residue around that on the car bodywork. I pulled the lid to inspect the check valve and I can’t see how it would restrict flow. Super soft spring. So I decided to remove the inlet tube and blow down it. I found it surprisingly difficult to blow down. I then removed the filter element and tried again. Zero resistance. Now I’m not sure what sort of differential pressure is normal but I was very surprised of how hard it was. Check valve or not, the element is the cause of resistance and id love to see this element flow tested against a provent 200 element in dirty conditions
Interesting. I’ve wondered the same myself if the filter itself is the issue.
@@JebbreysJibberish indeed. If it is the element then be careful and keep an eye on your new one as they only said the lack of check valve is the difference and maybe the baffle at the base of the element. I want to compare my old element to a new one and see the difference in resistance and whether the weave is tight enough to capture particulates that block it faster than others. Hmmmm I’d love to get these on a rig and flow test them professionally
Yes good point! I’m still on the fence of removing the filter altogether on the new on like I did the old one.
Ten out of ten for tenacity mate. After the Ryco catch can issue before, I thought you would have wised-up and bought a Provent 200 (like you should have done in the first place).
You might very well be right. But the stuff was there and I’m pretty confident the new model won’t replicate the issue I had so it’s worth a try. Of course I am watching it very closely this time around. The slightest look of any issue will see it come straight out and a Provent go in.
351 is an awsome product so effective at removal of sludge you won’t believe how much is pulled from the egr valve after 2000 km or so when the filter reaches saturation point
Just done about 500kms and looking in the drain valve pipe the deep dark black sludge in there is crazy. I’m glad I’m not putting that through my turbo and intercooler.
@@JebbreysJibberish I have formed a bit of a theory....I have a 2012 Chev Silverado Duramax 6.6 litre diesel and have fitted an Amsoil dual bypass oil filtration system.
With this set-up I can easily extend the oil interval changes to 20,000klm or beyond....and the oil is still honey-coloured when I change it.
I change the primary filter every 10,000klm and then change both filters and the oil every 20,000klm.
When I check the Provent 200 at the time I change the filter/s (ie: every 10,000klm) there's lucky to be 50mm in the drain tube.
I reckon the MUCH MUCH cleaner oil, courtesy of the very fine filtration of the bypass filter, is the main reason I'm getting buggar-all blow-by.
Provent 200 change pressure relief now blows into the return line to turbo and not to atmosphere. The changes are simple, relief valve in bottom of filter element and they provide plastic parts to remove relief valve in the lid assembly.
That make more sense.
Fix your fuel line by replacing those plastic nipple/quick change fittings with a brass nipple. Makes it slightly more difficult to remove the filter, but not much, and gives way more clearance to the catch can. trim a bit off the connecting hose to suit.
Good idea.
Do we have a update on how everything is working thanks and keep the great vids coming 👍
I’ve taken the filter out of the catch can and am just passing it through. I also had a flow issue with the fuel filter but Ryco have sent me an updated manifold which has solved it. I’d like to do a video on that soon.
Liked and subscribed, thank you for both this and your previous video, answered many of my questions re catch cans, great work mate! Please let us know if you feel the fuel filter degrades performance at all.
Thank you, will do.
Neat enough. Perhaps shorten the catch can hoses - you don't want too much pressure and vibration on the plastic catch can receiver nozzles or on the catch can..it seems they use the slide fit to the bracket to decouple the catch can from the bracket. Good for vibration in the up down direction, not so useful for horizontal vibration. The constant push from the hoses and that horizontal vibration may end up breaking the catch can plastic as it hardens with age.
Enjoy your vids - thanks JJ.
Thanks Benny. Yeah haven’t thought about the plastic fatiguing… the other one had been there a while and seemed to be ok but a couple of hot summers will test it that’s for sure. Yeah thinking I might trim a bit off…
I had a Flash Lube Catch Can Pro fitted to my GX 220 Landcruiser. Basically it is a Provent 100 which is great if you are short of room but is always worried me as I recon it was too small for the 200. Anyway I decided to fit a Provent 200 instead as the capacity is okay and everybody seems to fit them. In the process of fitting the Provent 200 I was having lunch and came across Berima Diesel on UA-cam discussing the Provent 100 as it was too small causing problems on a Landcruiser. Anyway because I did not have much room in the engine bay I installed the new catch can in front of the radiator, I saw someone else had to do the same thing (where I got the idea) but it works great and it`s out of the way. Just one thing replace the clear drain hose with oil resistant hose as the clear tube gets hard and brittle, transmission hose is good for this purpose. I hope you new model cause no grief as it must have been very distressing for you on a new engine.
Awesome video bud
Where you said the hose kinked , is the hose kinked or is that the sleeve over the top of the hose?
The hose isn’t kinked like the sleeve but it is under pressure and is possibly being restricted/squashed a bit. That’s my worry.
J/J. Has anyone looked into installing a pop-off valve after your intercooler sir ? Wasn't sure if LC200 owners understand when their engine operates under "EGR" control, or if it does under 'full noise' ! V.
Do you mean a blow off valve? I think the EGR is completely shut at full throttle.
@@JebbreysJibberish J/J. Pop-off valve can be seen on the 'Absorbite' YT Channel used to prevent over-boosting ! Maybe look at fitting a "Banks Power" module to your LC200, so it's always dialed upto 11 and no EGR operation ? V.
this is amazing mate!
Hey mate a year onwards. Anymore leaks/issues?
I’ve taken the filter out of the catch can as the front seal leaks seamed to be worse with it in. I think the damage to the seals was already done. I also had some issues with the secondary fuel filter that I want to do a video on later, I have since solved those issues though.
I own a direct injected engine. I read adding a secondary filter adds unnecessary work for a pump. Better off just having regular filter changes. Great content mate keep it up 🍺
That was part of the issue, however it has been resolved and has been working good. Fuel filters are a tricky one, I love rural and had a pump in my old patrol ruined by contamination and I changed my filter every 10k. It was $2k for an old TD42 pump replacement, god only knows how much a 1VD pump would be, and that’s not to mention the $8k worth of injectors.
how has the new catch can been?
I’m going to do something on this shortly. But let’s just say the new filter is on my bench…
Looks like the RYCO and Terrain Tamer catch cans are similar to the small Provent 100.
It’s about the same size as the 200 though.
@@JebbreysJibberish Sorry I meant the old Provent 100 that was only rated up to 100KW. Yes I have noticed on their web page today there is new provent2 models.
I'm here to learn. I have no comments on the choices other than , clearly you can't use the other model . That was a huge mess . I was stunned into subbing just for your suffering .
So this gave me a freakout, Ive got a 4JJ1 Rodeo and the engine has blown the rings, its driven me a bit nuts not being able to find the reason then i watch this. About half a year or so ago i installed a Ryco catch can so had me thinking aw fuck did i do this to myself but upon checking the order it is the 351K model so...shouldn't have this restriction issue like the 350, but as Ive got another 4J going in ill just be monitoring the CC very closely now, checking blow by pressure best i can and all that. knew i should have gotten a provent. 20/20 hindsight they say.
My current theory was prev owner, like your own experience, had dusted the motor (i hate buying off P platers) or had messed with the motor too much, in amateur fashion (found their "attempts" to circumvent the EGR system, first with a blanking plate, then a drilled blanking plate and i assume final move, a resistor in the IAT sensor line to just fool the ECM). But maybe my choice of CC has played a part. We shall, hopefully, see.
Also just wanted to say Ive stumbled upon you from John Cadogen aka Auto Expert response to your cheeky "piss take" vid of him and i say i do agree with the points you made in the video. Youre absolutely right that John has a lot of good information, i cant express how much i agree with him on the 3.5T rating thing all the utes are barking up atm but you're also right that he is a city bloke and doesn't much admire the bushbashing and overlanding experience either. Thats fine for you both to have that and i find its good to get content from both sides. Engineers aint always right but they do get A LOT right when you consider how comprehensive and complex a modern car is now. Keep up the good work, ill wave to ya from ym road train if i see your 200 going passed ;)
Yeah sounds like we both got a bad deal. I’ve been pretty lucky and pretty careful with al the cars I’ve bought in the past (and there’s been a lot!). It’s the first time I’ve been caught out and I must admit I dropped my guard on this one so it was my own fault. As far as the 351 goes, yeah be very careful and monitor very closely as we know how things can go wrong pretty quick.
Please explain why it is that you need a catch can. My engine rebuild bloke says “what ever you do NEVER install a catch can. It’s completely unnecessary and harmful “.
It just doesn’t make sense
The VDJ engines breathe heavily and dump the nasty black watery Vegimite into one turbo only. It also mixes with the EGR gasses and creates a thick black paste that blocks up your intake and valves over time.
I’ve got a 2020 79 series dual cab done 55000k. Have only installed a unichip add on. Absolutely no problems so far….
@@cmmsng but what does it matter if a trail of oil is fed back through.. ?? surely Toyota engine designers understand this when designing an engine. They can’t be completely stupid.. those of us who are non-believers of catch cans don’t experience premature engine failure ( unlike those that seem to install them)
@@camh7788 a non catch can user believe that God will look after his car. A catch can user believes in looooong term maintenance for a better full life, not a underrated life that will earn you a nice "cheap" intake clean every 100k
@@camh7788 the catch can would be the 1st thing I would install when getting a diesel 4WD. I had my 200 intake cleaned about 6 months ago and it cost me $1200 and was pretty thick. I would also only stick with provent 200. You will need a clean around 130000. If you owned a Ram it would be as low as 60-70000.
Sorry, but that catch can is a train wreck. Filter removal should be easy, not impossible. Having the outlet in the top cover not the base is just stupid design, and needing to undo 4 difficult fasteners is just plain stupid. Piss the thing off and get a Provent. The hoses look crap too, but they are needed. The scuff covering will prevent chafing.
Top is inlet dude
No it’s not on the Ryco bud. Provent is the opposite way to the Ryco. Ryco is inlet at bottom outlet at top.
Provent is the goods
Good videos smooth production.
Might even sub...
Can you do me a small favour and throw a cap on your air con test/fill valve...
You'll thank me later...
Thank you. I only noticed that when I watched the video back too!! Where do I get them from?
I’ve found Catch cans to be an absolute waste of time.
Care to share your experience
@@jasper287 I used one for the first 50k on my Hilux and then when I got my intake system carbon cleaned, my mechanic convinced me to take it off. I did and did another 50k, then had the intake done again and he said it was no different than the first time.
The oil that the catch can collects would just get burned off through the exhaust system anyway.
It still fouls up your intercooler on the way through too though. Oil isn’t a great thermal conductor so having your intercooler coated with oil mist surely wouldn’t be good fit it’s efficiency? Or am I wrong?
@@JebbreysJibberish check out John cadogan on UA-cam. He explains it far better than I could.
@@greenslawngarden7809 what brand catch can. Because not all catch can's are equal and many don't do what you believe. Many continuous duty diesel engine's come from manufacturers with built in catch can systems believe or not. And if you believe, trust Toyota engineers so much why in the world have you had 2x intake cleans at 50k apart. Sounds like you have some issues you're not discussing