@@bottlerocket3218 I've seen footage of him and many other people walking into a house under construction on that block. Why was he the only one shot? People walk into homes under construction all the time.
So, the defense’s argument is that since Arbery was a healthy young man, there’s no reason he shouldn’t have been able to outrun a pickup truck? I think maybe they should do a demonstration for the jury, get a pickup truck and chase these good old boys around the parking lot for a while, give them a new perspective on things.
And it’s like the opposite side of the coin in the Rittenhouse case, somehow the white guy with the gun makes out better than the people he shot. So screwed up.
@@RorRiiZzLE Self defense has nothing to do with skin color, if someone runs up to you trying to attack you, you have the right to shoot them. God Bless America and the 2A
@@toddmintz4269 I believe you have the aggressor and the defender mix up from your remarks Todd there was no reason for the McMichaels to run armed after Mr Aubrey who had not committed a felony and should not have been suspected of committing a felony. At the most Mr. Arbrey committed a misdemeanor Trespassing by stopping at the construction site. If he had been white I doubt if the McMichaels would have pursued him so vigorously. This is obviously an ex police detective, his shotgun toting son, and a neighbor turned vigilantes
I'm just amazed that no one thinks Ahmaud had the right to fight for his life. It's appalling. Was he just supposed to stand there and do nothing at all?
thats how american law works, proving capitalism doesn't work people talk about china/russia, this crap doesn't happen in china especially convenience store robbings, and newsflash america, CCTV in schools?....thats not normal
@@philb8338 Well, the McMichaels and their buddy had a choice to not go around chasing strangers with guns and now, they will spend their lives in prison. As the Holy Book says "And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbor, as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man so shall it be done to him again." Leviticus 24:19-21.
The first police officer that responded says he heard Mr. Arbery gargling, which means he was still alive when he was on the ground. He was then asked why didn’t you attend to him and administer life saving techniques? The cop then said because he had no back up. 🤯🤯 ugh the more I watch the more I think every single defendant should get life no parole. This case is just insanely horrible..makes me so sick.
A person's body can still make sounds up to 72 hours after being declared dead. Bodily functions still continue to process according to my friend who is embalmer. So sound effects is actually quite common from a corpse. Therefore the officers testimony is correct on what he heard but to confirm if he was still alive without checking a pulse or confirming a heartbeat his assessment of Ahmauds status cannot be accurately stated. I believe the coroner's statements and findings.
@@sheiswhitney I wonder if it were a little blonde white girl lying in the street with a shotgun wound to her chest,after having been chased by 3 men in 2 big 'pickup' trucks, IF he would have "waited for backup"?😒 What was he afraid of and why would he need backup, at that point? IT'S BLATANT RACISM STARING YOU RIGHT IN YOUR FACE FROM THE WITNESS STAND, coming from a cop and "the law"!! How can YOU NOT SEE this!?🙊🙉🙈👀
@@blacblack7187 ummm.... Sir or Ma'am my vision and intellectual ability to "read & see" what's going on is way above average here... so I'm unsure what exactly you want me to see?! I only pointed out that Ahmaud could have been dead regardless of the sounds he heard coming from his body in relation to the coroners testimony depicted in this clip. I never spoke on the officer's failure to attempt to save Ahmaud's life nor his reasoning behind saving his life because he was waiting on "back up." That wasn't my topic at hand and was simply giving the nuance on why an untrained medical person such as the officer and a well trained scientist testimony are different. 🤔 In fact, why would I waste my breath on calling out the officer's racial prejudice when we already know it exist? We know if Ahmaud was white he would have made an attempt to perform life saving techniques. But that's not the point or issue I was addressing. So please pump your brakes & attempt to redirect all that bravado somewhere else.
@@sheiswhitney A simple check of Mr Arbery's person would have subdued and/or removed any doubts or speculation about the condition of his body after having been shot close range with a shotgun, and IF ANY aid,assistance or comfort could have been rendered in his last moments. Whether or not he could have rendered any aid to a probably,most certainly, dying man wouldn't be an issue now, IF he'd simply done the right thing at the time. Lol...It took a lot for you to state the obvious, Sir or Ma'am (as if most people weren't aware that the human body can make "sounds" after death---but, not gurgling nor breathing sounds tho!)😒....Look, I simply pointed out the b.s. in his sworn testimony, that you obviously neglected to acknowledge and/or notice(or even mention) in your initial comment (despite your exceptional abilities to 👀👂and "read"). 😏 Im not attacking YOU, so you can drop the attitude and aggression, yourself, Sir or Ma'am. 😊 Have a nice day.
its unbelievable heartbreaking. they hunted amhaud. i remember tv movies about lynchings growing up in the 70s and 80s. i see no meaningful difference 40+ years later. the roots of all the days of our lives, all our children's lives, and our ancestors. mercy on our souls.
Listen to the neighborhood witnesses .the man that owned the house down to the killers mom .these men had planned to make sure arbery wasnt gonna step in their neighborhood again .the father ex cop friends with the police .did you hear when the father said was it a rightgous kill son did he have anything on him .the women in the neighborhood that testified with smirky grins o im so scared i cant let my sons go outside i carry a gun .an evil killing that messed up made to look like self defence .in this case they need to be imprisoned
He grabbed the gun from the white guy did he expect a pass because people on the internet don't like whites defending themselves if it so happens to be a black suspect?.
@@memes.5593 Yeah let's conviently ignore that he was chased by and trying to defend himself from 3 rabid animals. Did you expect them to get a pass just because they're inbred and sunburn easily?
What would anybody do if they're being hunted down by multiple people in pickup trucks with guns? Would you run hoping the pickups ran out of gas or would you stop and try to fight in order to try to save your own life?
Both if I had to, if I was outrun and they jumped off the truck, IMA TRY TO KNOCK THE GUN OUT THE PERSONS HANDS, AND YES THAT CAN REQUIRE ME HAVING TO HOLD THE GUN TO PULL IT AWAY FROM THE MURDERER.
You stop and raise your hands. He never needed to fight for his life … as they were trying to arrest him… or make him stop to wait for the police to arrive.
There was a boat and a lived in camper on the property. He had been there multiple times during the construction. Even out to the dock. They knew he was black. He was on probation and didn't want go back to jail. "I got a trespasser," Larry English, the property owner, said in a call to police after the first recorded visit made by Arbery on the night of Oct. 25, 2019
Yeah, trying to disarm the killer's shotgun was the only way he had a chance of surviving. Besides, this angle is useless because they were the aggressors.
@@jakublizon6375 that is what got him killed though. he was shot in a defensive manner. but I assume the fact that the defendants pursued ahmaud and other details of their behavior forfeited their right to self-defense.
For the first time I'm seeing a witness, a expert as they say, that is not grinning, even laughing or being so so nonchalant that it is obvious the witness is cold and uncaring of what they saw and witnessed. This medical examiner is serious, intent on answering each question with accuracy and is sincere. He knows what he saw in Aubrey's dead body was a horrific crime. The defense is trying to build a case of self defense, and this medical examiner said the truth..."well a shotgun was pointed at him...and trucks were chasing him". I appreciated that at least here was a witness who saw the results of a massacre of a young USA citizen, and felt the magnitude and weight of this cold bloodied murder. These defendants are going to prison, no doubt. I just hope it's life sentence, with no parole.
Laura, don’t be so sure my dear. In this world today the crazy that is taking place and the complete lack of regard some have for human life, especially some toward young men of color, I just don’t know anymore! I would say honestly if they get manslaughter charges I will be surprised! They will probably walk free that’s how messed up our “ justice” system is. My heart goes out to this young man and his family. What a tragic loss of his entire adult life over nothing! Racist animals!
If you think it can't get any worse. I saw the video of the body cam of first officer on scene and you can hear the victim gasping for air and moaning the entire video. There was nothing wrong with his hearing so he could hear the men who shot him talking to officer. He could hear officer say minutes later to second officer who ask if there's a pulse him replying he is about to be a 10-7. He had to think this was something out of a twilight zone back in Mississippi in the early 1900s . I seen video of him being in a park arguing with an officer about his rights being violated. I can only imagine the horror knowing how he felt about police and hearing the police radio activity his last minutes on earth. He was unable to give his side of the story but I only wish he knew that he would be vindicated and justice would be served. They will be found guilty, there's no way with the video footage and the evidence presented that they will come back with a not guilty verdict especially with the lack of remorse demonstrated by the defendants. Sorry this is so long but this has just got me so upset I can't stop thinking about it until the verdict is in.
@John Smith Sarcasm or not, you're making a comment literally laughing and joking about a poor 25 year old man who was chased down and brutally murdered by 3 animals. Maybe hold off on the joke for a comedy video instead of a video talking about a young Americans brutal murder. You're obviously too stupid to know when to joke around and when not to.
I'm inclined to agree with your assessment of this Goff still I have this notion in the back of my mind But what if his real objective is to cause a Mistrial. Believing he can't win this case a mistrial would work in his favor.
How about you don't enter other people's house without permission, multiple times? How about not running toward a man holding a shotgun, attacking him and trying to take the gun? Maybe that's why Arbery ended up dead.
@@Colstonewall and that's why the three defendants are going to do hard time. No other reason but seeing the narrative as you do, and then acting on it. The same holds true for any of the rest of you who try this bs.
@@Colstonewall he ended up dead because these mouth breathers took it upon themselves to chase him...3 on 1, with weapons, I might add, and gun him down. How about someone do that to your spawn?
@@Colstonewall Owner of the home said he had no problem with it and that it happened a lot beyond that neither of these racist fucks owned shit. So that irrelevant…don’t worry they are going to make great friends in prison 😏
Typical defense strategy: introduce nonsensical "what if" scenarios and twist the facts to make it seem that ,somehow, the dead victim is responsible for his own death, not the person who shot him. Outrageous!
Not surprising, though. Nothing that has been said during this trial surprises me - just tired of them trying to imply that Ahmaud was the cause of his own death - now THAT's some bull right there . . .
@@snuggleseal lol what do you think is gonna happen when you chase, someone, point a gun at them, threaten them, then corner them, then jump out your vehicle and charge at them? They may decide to defend themselves against their 3 pursuers/attackers.
This is so wrong on many levels this man was running for his life they chased him down and shot him in cold blood took the law in their on hand why didn't they call the police the Judge should stop this trial and put these animals where they belong in prison with no possible parole what they did were beyond evil
Yes, it's just got to be that they get a fair trial, even though what they did to Aubrey was cowardly, cold bloodied murder. These three monsters will be in prison a long time. I'm hoping life without parole.
There's a military base and shrimp - fishing docks plus a sea shipping port. It's real easy to find work or if your a lawless theif-easy Pickens to go jogging and find treasures to rip-off and buy DRUGS !
I did appreciate that the old man said that fear could have been the reason he grabbed the gun.. and that there was two people chasing him.. and that he cannot tell abuery was running to the car..
Fear? He was running right and he suddenly veered left to attack the guy holding the gun. He could have kept running right and things would have been much different.
@@nirv I can't believe you people are still holding on to that defense. Hang it up. They were wrong! Just say you prioritize guns over there human lives and/or that you're racist.
@Barry Beaubien yep but what does that have to do with this case! These men and his prior has zero to do with the others? You just want them to be innocent
I'm sitting here thinking...this could end the same way Travon Martin case did. These guys chase Aubery down, they were the aggressor, Aubery gets into a scuffle with the guy with the gun, gets killed, now the aggressor has became the victim! Zimmerman committed all these same actions!
No the Trayvon Martin case is different. Trayvon hunted down and tried to murder someone in a dark alley. This is not the same thing. Unless you mean the 3 white guys are Trayvon then I can see your point.
Not so wild. Eric Gardner left him on the sidewalk but handcuffed and unconscious..Andre Hill shot in his garage dying on the floor and handcuffed....Breana Taylor no effort let her lie there..George Floyd...no pulse but continued applying pressure for another 3 minutes... Philandro Castille.
Apparently, you didn't hear the testimony from the first officer on the scene, that the scene wasn't secure and he couldn't focus his complete attention on Mr. Aubrey. The second officer to arrive on scene did check on Mr. Aubrey, but nothing could be done for him.
Let's not forget this all happened after they cornered him with the truck, yelled threats at him and kept chasing him... he was already running for his life! He had every right to go after the shotgun!!
@@crand20033 this is pure speculation at this point. Prosecution proved beyond doubt that the killers did not know about any previous criminal incidents from the victim. She proved beyond doubt based on law and evidence that the killers, even if the victim had a prio, Had ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS doing a citizen arrest on the victim in question
Just wanted to add...fight or flight= if you cannot flee you fight. Just because it is clear that Mr. Arbery had plenty of "escape routes" visible to anyone with working eyes does NOT mean that his legs, lungs or heart could run anymore. I'm sure he was trying to get home, legs burning, lungs on fire and heart pounding. I cannot even begin to imagine the terror he must have felt when he realized that they were not going to stop chasing him. Anyone with the will to live would have fought. Like anyone else, ones past mistakes or crimes do not automatically doom them to death. Let's not forget. Those three (and all their neighbors) knew nothing about his past OR HIM. Maybe a friendly wave and a "how's your day" could have ended all this crap differently. God willing, none of them will ever sleep soundly again !
Why fight or flight if you are completely innocent???? If I was on someone construction site as a private property and I would be asked “ Hey what are you doing here?” It would be easy to explain ( if I have a valid point ) prove that I did not steal anything….In the situation that no one would believe me…the cops would be called and I would be investigated and proved my innocence.It is hard to believe that for doing all of that I would be just shot.
@@echoe4806 Yes, we totally believe that you would succumb to 3 bozos with guns who are not the police and yelling they will blow your fucking head off. Yep, got it. GTFOH.
@@echoe4806 And? You are not obligated to listen to a stranger's commands, regardless of their former occupation. And Travis was visibly carrying a firearm from the passenger street and yelling extremely loudly as the 911 call can attest to. This wasn't some random guy on the street coming up to you and politely asking how your day was and where you've come from. This was an armed stranger chasing you in a vehicle, screaming at you to stop while cussing and swearing.
@@Birthday888 The way the media showed the events is exactly how you presented it.I had the same opinion like you before.But after watching closely video footages from surveillance cameras and also watching 8 hours of trial my opinion changed completely.The interesting fact is 90% of people commenting here accused me of racism because of that.Just because I have a different opinion doesn’t make me an racist.Ahmaud Arbery had a criminal past.The second thing is trespassing.In that neighborhood there were burglaries and theft and residents were frustrated.Ahmaud was seen before on surveillance camera late night.One neighbour ( not the McMichael’s) saw Ahmaud and he started to run down the street….( not jogging) The McMichael’s noticed that and yelled at him to stop because Ahmaud was a suspect.This is the part we’re the McMichael’s we’re wrong.They grabbed their weapons.Citizen arrest was legal in Georgia and carrying a gun also.The McMichael’s called 911 before the chase.The police was on the way.They were trying to catch the guy and hand him to the police.If that was successful they would still be charged for aggravated assault.The shots were fired only when both guys were wrestling for the gun.In the video you clearly see Ahmaud running directly at Travis McMichael…not running away.This is the strangest part of the case.If you hold a gun an tell someone to stop and the individual is ignoring you and keep running towards you what would you do? Where is the intent murder?
Asking the Medical Examiner any questions about how he feels about circumstances isnt relevant. His only job is to point out the damage to a Human being, that resulted in death
Hey Stephen, thanks for stating this in the comments section. I’m sure the court will take the input from a random hillbilly youtuber into consideration. >.>
yes there was something PHYSICALLY preventing him from running… it was the TRUCKS he was being chased with that were blocking the road and the man with a shot gun chasing him off of the road to kill him
Those autopsy photographs of Mr Aubrey brought tears to my eyes, what Travis did to him was beyond stomach turning . The injuries are appalling but they never bated an eyelid when they were shown.
@@martinacook9120 not only that, but they have tried suggesting her more than reasonable outbursts influence the jury and make it “unfair” to the defendants. Those ugly sacks of flesh masquerading as humans can’t even fathom the grief that a mother feels seeing her son’s corpse. If there was any justice, all of the defendants would spend the rest of their miserable lives rotting in prison.
i mean i'd fight back too if someone chased me down and pulled a gun on me. not to mention that this trial wouldn't even be taking place if they had just called the police instead of chasing him
I can advise, for the purpose of prolonging your own life, that you shouldn't attack someone who is armed and trying to, even unlawfully, detain you. You likely will not win that. Just stay there and call the police. Then you can if you choose to press charges against them for false imprisonment among other things. If they're asking you to come with them somewhere that could be interpreted as kidnapping and you should definitely try to defend yourself as that is dangerous. Rule of thumb to stay safe in life, just because someone is being unreasonable doesn't mean you should in turn, especially when they have a gun or any weapon, or are more physically imposing, etc.
@@king_slimy8859 He tried desperately to remove himself from the conflict. He was a black man in deep south Georgia where three hillbillies are shouting threats to his life , brandishing weapons and throwing their trucks at him. He had every reason to believe they were out to kidnap him, cause him bodily harm or corralling him in to hang him later. He didn't have a phone to call the authorities so he tried to leave the neighborhood until Bryan directed him back into satella shores. He had nothing on his person at all. Basically what you're saying is he should've submitted and trust that total armed strangers in pickups who aren't law enforcement weren't there to cause him bodily harm or end his life. Keep in mind in Mr Arbury's mind he had not done anything wrong and they never informed him they were performing a citizens arrest.
@@king_slimy8859 Everyone reacts to what they perceive a threat differently. It's not always rational. That's why you don't chase someone down with deadly weapons and threaten to blow their heads off. Especially if that person hasn't committed a crime. That person will have no idea why you're acting the way you are.
"So, he was, essentially, dead before he hit the ground?" "Yes." "And, in your opinion, doctor, would being dead before he hit the ground prevent him from running or fighting?" "Well, duh."
@@nanaberry4120 "Essentially", as in, his injuries were likely going to prove fatal. But, to the cop attending the scene, who is not a medical professional, he should have TRIED to do something for the human being lying on the street. At any rate, my comment is speaking to the idiotic attempt by the defense to suggest that Arbery's movements after the 3rd shotgun blast were entirely within his control and ability to make rational decisions and act upon them, when in medical and material fact his body was suffering the shock of mortal wounds and already beginning to shut down altogether. Not that this should have required explanation, but here we are.
@@thescorpion4685 Naw, he's technically dead! Agonal breathing is just a gasping reflex, it's not really breathing. It's just a muscle response to get air to an already dying brain.
Who chased who? Who brought the loaded firearms to the scene? Who would have been tired from running? Who approached who with a loaded deadly weapon? Who's finger was on the trigger? There COULD NOT have been a citizen's arrest, because no felony had been committed in the McMichael's presence. And being former law enforcement the elder McMichael would know this. So essentially this became and aggravated assault, which is a felony! There was a specific intent, due to the fact the son went and got his shotgun, while the dad went and got his .357 pistol. At that point they decided to chase this man down while committing a felony armed with loaded firearms. The shooter stated he had no choice but to shoot, meaning he intended to pull the trigger. Whether or not he was being beaten is speculative at that immediate point, being that either man could claim self defense. But the aforementioned circumstances prove otherwise since it was the McMichael's that chased down and approached the victim for no legitimate or lawful purpose other than to intimidate or kill him. Self preservation and adrenaline kick in when being confronted with danger or life threatening situations. Obviously Aubery was tired from running, and must have felt desperate at that moment, which invokes human nature to survive. McMichael got out of the truck, with a loaded shotgun. Aubrey didn't make him get out. These two should die immediately and the third should spend 20yrs in prison thinking about it.
Arbery ran and fought because he was a convicted felon on probation and didn't want to go to back to jail. normal people would not do that. Arbery was diagnosed in 2018 with schizoaffective disorder, a combination of schizophrenia and mood disorders. In a June 2018 call to 911 his own mother warned the operator that Arbery has a mental condition that had "escalated", and would make him violent if officers were to aggressive with him. 🦘
@@crand20033 none of that was known or relevant at the time he was murdered, not did it have any bearing on use of deadly force against an unarmed man. In addition to the fact c t these men had no legal authority to stop or detain him. He had not committed a felony in their presence, he had no weapons or stolen property. I have placed people under citizens arrest before, and what I witnessed warranted my actions or reactions. There was no speculation. That's where the bar is set. As a cop, I've had to take custody of a person several people detained for committing larceny from a building, and they witnessed it as it was taking place. These clowns make the keystone cops look like genius detectives. I applaud people protecting their community and neighbors. But there is a right way to do it. Not the way the McMichaels handled it. I don't care what color or race any of them are
@@crand20033 Are you freaking kidding me? Keep supporting the murderers and demonizing the victim..... Unbelievable people have this much hate in their heart.....smh
@@crand20033 all bad things about Aubrey' life can be considered but does any of it justify being persecuted by a motorised vehicle and 2-3 strong men? Seriously man?
Any human being who saw these pictures today, should definitely feel sympathy. Bless his mother and though she was not in their to see them, the world saw her baby dead n lifeless, heartbreaking 💔
@Barry Beaubien you ARE sick and SHAME ON YOU for your inhumanity... In here disparaging the Dead and you can't even spell smh BOY BYE... Get out of America we don't need your kind here anymore
@Barry Beaubien it is, did you hear the medical examiner today, apparently not. He was not a thief, thieves have items on them, in their possession..He did not...you texting wild and crazy things. I know what you are getting at and you can dismiss yourself off my comment page. No room for reckless chat.
We still need to deal with the racist prosecutor and law enforcement officers who were all complicit in trying to cover up the murder of a Black man that was really a Hate crime.
The case was handled wrong from the beginning...so very likely what was presented to the DA was not incriminating...so the mishandling of the case started AT THE SCENE!!!!
@@kevinrichardson8859 Uh na, nice try. The father worked for the DA & knew her personally. She was lookin out for him. When lookin out for a friend goes wrong. She’s not off the hook either she’s awaiting trial as should all the officers on the scene.
So if someone points a gun I shouldn't try to fight back or grab it if I think someone I don't know is trying to kill me. Yall make it make sense. That was being hunted down and he was trying to defend himself
Arbery would be alive if he didnt attack and try to grab the shotgun. Firearms 101, someone grabs your gun, they are considered armed, you are well within your rights to shoot them.
@@snuggleseal He would be alive if the men who shot him were not racist. However you spin it, that is the case. I would not be surprised if they get off though. The Judge, the Jury selection, the atmosphere all harks back to the early century where black people had no rights whatsoever and this southern city is doing whatever they can to keep that cultural heritage. The only difference now is they are just nice and "respectful" about it - coz you know...no one wants to be seen as a racist...not even a racist!
As someone who carries a gun, you don't ever put your hand on my gun whether I am robbing you or holding you at citizens arrest. You will not like the outcome.
Are you kidding? When he ran your client chased him down with a truck. So yes there was something preventing him from running, he already tried that, fighting was the last option.
So disgusting for the defense to try to get the medical examiner to say Ahmaud could have just kept running from his murderers chasing him all around the neighborhood. That lawyer should have to demonstrate by running the same route being chased by trucks with shotgun wielding racists. I doubt he would last half as long as Ahmaud did. 🤬
Frankly I see this type of questioning lame the victim having his hand on the instrument that's trying to kill him implying he's responsible for his on murder!
Its crazy victim blaming but if they would have waited the police and not chased him with a gun he would have never been shot its sad that young man lost his life
Fight or flight is not always a conscious decision and it's not only triggered by being trapped but it is triggered from fear. If it were only triggered from being trapped none of the people that have suffered injuries from flight would have tried to run away because they would have realized it is less dangerous to stay where they are. If you are afraid you either run away , flight, or you stay and defend yourself, fight. It's encoded in the DNA of every animal on the planet, human or otherwise. If you're being chased by a car you don't run away from the car you run towards it because the car can't change direction as fast as you can. He made a conscious decision to run towards the truck to evade capture but when he saw the gun his fight or flight took over and he instincts chose fight.
Years ago I attended training the Air Force provided for those working with sexual assault victims given by Dr. Lisak who helped the AF develop their Sexual Assault Prevention and Response program. In that training, a third element was added. It was Fight, Flight, or Freeze at least in the case of sexual assault. I wonder if it applies to other crimes as well where a person is so frightened they physically can't move and freeze like deer caught in the headlights.
@@lovelessm You cannot compare sexual assault with someone being just a suspect, an innocent person who can just simply explain and prove his innocence.Not sure why everyone is talking about fear, flight, fight…if you are really innocent.
My thoughts exactly. So, if you're a white man with a gun, and you insert yourself OR you aggravate/provoke the incident, and you shoot people/and they die or are maimed, then you are allowed to call it 'self defense'. Got it. Execute them all.
I don't KNOW the extent of Ahmaud's jogging history.When he went jogging he probably paced himself,the distance etc SO he would'nt be TIRED.Imagine him breaking from the jog,looking at the house,picking up the jog again.The trucks follows him,cuts him off,bumps him,causing him to change directions & tries to BLOCK him in.He would probably be BEYOND,TIRED.IF THE KILLER jumped out of the truck & began to attack him,HOW much of a fight COULD Ahmaud put up?
@@ddss3042 DID THEY FIND A SINK,BATHTUB,TOOLS,2x4's IF he had those I guess THE KILLERS would say he was ARMED WITH A DEADLY WEAPON)ALONG side : HIS DEAD BODY? RE: "THE INNOCENT BYSTANDER"his lawyer was BUSY doing :HE'S TOO MUCH OF A IDIOT DEFENSE.
@@ddss3042 He certainly had the physique of a committed jogger, and his friends and family have all said he loved to run, especially through the big Oak trees; he also liked the scent of the salt water when running by the ocean. The only time he didn’t enjoy it when it was pouring rain. One shoplifting charge hardly makes him a career thief and there was zero history or evidence he had ever committed a burglary. I agree, the Mcmicheal’s belong in prison. The third guy sees a black man running down the street, with the MCM’s following him in their truck with shot guns - he didn’t ask the black man if he was okay or needed help - he yelled to his neighbours in the truck, “you got him?” Then hoped in his own truck to join the pursuit, running Ahmaud into the ditch. Not one of these “men” ever treated Aubrey as a human being. Their racism is so engrained - the homeowner had explicitly told them the black man in the video had never damaged or taken anything from his home - yet they grabbed their shotguns anyway.
can someone explain what the hell is going on? he tried to get away from a gun pointed at him because he didn't want to get shot but that is what got him shot? huh? the hate and rage in those racists hearts is what killed Ahmaud.
@Mark Calous That's literally what happened in the video. Whether they are guilty of murder is independent from whether Ahmed veered left behind the truck.
And even if he was still allegedly breathing, they were his last breaths - the cops wouldn't have administered CPR to save him anyway. They're just trying to cover their collective a$$es.
Straight lies, even if he was breathing the cop never administered cpr or any type of aid, they gave those racists an whole interview while Ahmaud laid dead; murdered.
They add in the word “struggle” to alleviate blame from the white shooter. They would never have used the term had a black man shot and killed a white man.
Because they were trying to make it seem as if Ahmaud was shot because he decided to fight for his life and not that those animals chased him down and murdered him.
It helps their narrative, they were initially saying home invasion until the parents kept going down to the D.A office. They didn’t think it would go this far smh
The man is not a DETECTIVE; he was there to tell you that the FIRST SHOT was UNSURVIVABLE, which was TRUE. All McMichael had to do is step back and call an ambulance FIRST, then call the police. I'm in NOLA right now; if you call an ambulance here, the NOPD will escort the ambulance to the scene, to investigate FOUL PLAY. The only procedure that'd sucked here was that the police arrived to the scene BEFORE the ambulance; that within itself, tells you that they had no intentions of saving the man from his injuries.
He’s about to cry because he knows what is happening here. He did undermine a lot of the BS questioning in a very powerful way and the jury knows it. Kiddos to u sir for knowing what u were doing up there. You did a great job not letting the defensive twist things.
Ahumad Arbery did the right thing by trying to defend himself if he had turned his back Travis or Greg would've shot him in the back. So he tried to disarm Travis Mcmichael he was fighting for his life
@Jay Jones Any8in their right mind will do whatever it takes to defend protect themselves when someone is trying to do harm to them it your natural instincts.
@Jay Jones The only rabid dogs are the racist idiots who murdered a perfectly healthy young man who had his entire life before him. Shame on you for being blind to hate and intolerance.
And they did 😆 seriously just commented how I think this helped convict because their leading questions backfired and actually confirmed their theory is bs
@JagBrit the question was about the jury being 11 black and 1 white and what that implies, not asking for a bs history lesson from someone with a chip on their shoulder
I’m watching from the UK and bloody exhausted with this BS! Literally have to turn it off after a while, What part of these 3 Murders killing Ahmad while he was on a JOG on CAMERA is Ambiguous, I pray the family of Ahmad get justice!!!!
@@jshepard152 first of all this was written 2 weeks ago DURING the trial before we knew the outcome!! Secondly yes exhausted with the fact that another black male has been murdered for no reason other than his colour and his murders who by the way were allowed to go back home after the murder, were not arrested until an a public uproar after prosecutors swept this case under the carpet, so excuse me for being sick and tired of AmeriKKKa!!!
@@Asha-gf4mq Yes I'm aware. You assumed the trial wouldn't be fair and you were wrong. Probably best not to open your mouth since you're very poor at predicting the future.
@@jshepard152 lol history has proven that the justice system is horrifically racist and biased when it comes to giving justice to black people, I don’t need no crystal ball for that! We shouldn’t even be celebrating this, this should be the norm 2 men kill someone on camera for jogging in white area, shud be an open and shut case but we know AmeriKKKa does not function that way, which is why people were anxious! Shame on you for pretending that the justice system is equal for all when you blatantly know it’s not!
What’s the reason the safety wasn’t on? The only person that could claim self defence is no longer here. Dead Men tell no tales yet…the video speaks loudly for Mr. Arbery . Blessings to the family.🙏🏽🙏🏽♥️
When Judgment comes for these hateful people, they have a 400 year tab. Reparations would've looked good in court. May the Most High God deal with them
@General Ranking No speculation required. If someone is stupid enough to ask of me "How stupid are you?" then he has to be a drooling idiot. BTW, who has red skin? Are you regurgitating Afrocentric racist idiocy?
Nothing preventing him from running but being shot in the back... at least he got to see his killers eyes and they will see them even when they close their eyes in prison
a cop who was trained in CPR says he heard a death rattle from Arbery as he laid on the ground - and didn't give him CPR because he did have enough training. Now the coroner who was not there is saying he was dead before he hit the ground?
This is not up for debate. This video says it all. The cop didn't even know where he was shot and refused him aid. ua-cam.com/video/pqfUY1urbLk/v-deo.html. He knew AA was still breathing.
No matter which side you’re on this examiner is clearly lying. Everybody at the scene admits he was still breathing whether that is clinical dead or not no way for this examiner to know that. I’ve been in the military and seen true professionals react and operate this guy is clearly lying in favor of who he is siding for.
He was essentially dead before he hit the ground. I took it as he was unconscious and in the process of dying. Beyond any help medicine could offer from his wounds. Clinical death shortly following was inevitable.
Well clinically dead and “dead” aren’t always the same thing. Legally dead refers to an irreversible condition of ceased heart and lung function. Clinically dead can be reversed if immediate action is taken, but without intervention will become irreversible, thus legally dead.
It's an irrelevant argument period! The 3 incestuous Hillbillies tracked , stalked and hunted this man, then killed him! They threatened to blow his F**cking head off... now is this up for debate?
Sad to read people giving this man crap, he is literally just doing his job and explaining what he thinks happened based on what he learned from the wounds.
If Arbery was in fight or flight mode, then he felt threatened. If he felt threatened then he had the right to defend himself. Imagine how scary it would be to have a truck with two armed strangers chasing you.
@@williamwalcott8808 No, as a black man with 3 white men chasing you in a white neighborhood IN GEORGIA and yelling they will blow your F'ing head off and you have no phone, nothing to try to get help. Let's imagine that.
Bro what would you do if people followed you then pulled guns out. Wouldn't you immediately draw your firearm to defend yourself? They clearly murders Aubrey.@@nirv
How dare he try to defend himself after someone points a shotgun at him. After being hunted and cornered like a rat. He should have trusted that they just wanted to ask him some questions and make sure he wasn't hiding a generator in his shorts.
@@crand20033 So it's the victim's fault that he didn't know the proper fear response when he clearly tried to go around the truck and was cut off. Fear often causes a freeze before fight or flight kicks in, if there's even time for flight. I pray no one you love is ever placed in this type of situation.
@@karened2378 Why go around the truck? Just run away. Travis told him during the chase they wanted to talk to him they only wanted to talk to him. They never had any intention to kill him and knew they had no legal right to kill him unless they were attacked - - - - and they were.
@@crand20033 well I guess you should return your law degree because those idiots are in jail until they get carried out in a box. Maybe you can visit them and put some money on their commissary. Malice and felony murder. Look it up. And try a little better to hide your obvious bias.
Exactly!!! You would think so right. It seems that these ole farters don’t believe in Retirement. I think the Country should have an age cutoff. They allow them to continue to work when they can barely hear, see or remember. Can we please have some Refreshments 🥱🥱🥱💯💯🤣🤣🤣
@@nirv Hell No!!! Because he can’t remember the Truth and when he looks at his paperwork he can’t remember what is the truth and instead of being in a courtroom he should be Retired and somewhere on his Yacht enjoying his life and trying to remember how many times he actually told the truth. The Truth is the Truth and you don’t forget the Truth
@@brendajohnson5976 clearly you didn't hear how many cases this man works on, even young medical examiners refer to their notes during a trial because they examine many bodies and testify in many cases it's important to refer to your original notes to be accurate in any case.
As a medical examiner, the only thing he should be questioned about what kills that it was due to 3 gunshots what part of his body how far the damage to his body from each shot which shot was the fatal shot of each shot to Ahmaud Arbery not how he was killed, him saying or discussing the struggle of a shotgun should be stricken. He is trying to say that Ahmaud Arbery incited the struggle of the shotgun that he was the aggressor
They also probably realize that the defense's questions are sometimes so ridiculous that they are having the reverse effect in the direction of the prosecution's benefit. The Jury cant see the def attorney ask the med examiner if he thinks the fear the victim faced was bc of a fear of being caught (when there is a shotgun pointed at him) and think the def attorney is not completely ridiculous. Let the Def attorney be bat-shit crazy in front of the jury lol. If you're going to help my case I wont stop you.
I think the prosection is just letting the defense attorneys ruin their own case. They don't need to jump in and let the jury know what the defense attorney is saying is ridiculous. For example, the whole bit about how nothing was preventing him from fleeing is hilarious in its own right because they were literally chasing him in vehicles and he was on foot. I mean he wasn't gonna be able to flee, that much was clear from the video
The question should be why was there a shotgun in the defendants hands in the first place. The gun would not have been struggled over and a man would not have been killed had the defendants left there big boys toys at home. WTF call the police and let them do their job and stop being a vigilantes. What a shame. i guess these defendants will have to grow up now. and stop playing cops. Now they are criminals. and I hope Justus is served.
@@crand20033 other than the defendant’s incorrect assumptions of the matter, in reality, the victim did not threaten the defendant in any way until the victim eventually charged him when cornered. Why arm yourself with lethal force when no threat is present (admitted during cross examination)?
Half this attorney’s questions are so dumb. Asking if the medical examiner knew about what happened at Larry English’s house? How’s that relevant? Also, not much happened at English’s house. Ahmaud walked into it, left the house, and jogged down the street. 🤷♀️
So horrific! This should be considered a hate crime and they should be imprisoned forever along with their attorneys and anyone who helped them. He was trying to save himself by disarming his MURDERER! And he didn't shoot him, he punched him. The aggressor gets what they deserve when someone is fighting for their life!
Wtf is up with the attitude in this country that some people seem to have that if someone pulls a gun on you, you don’t have the right to try to stop them from shooting you?? Like, oh they have a gun, just accept your fate and don’t fight back because then they will be justified in shooting you! It’s absolutely insane.
Did they determine how far this man had run during the chase? Or how fast he had to run to try and keep away from a moving vehicle? I hate the defense, but that was a good "gotcha" moment with the fight or flight. "He could have still fled" suggesting he opted to fight instead of continuing to flee. With the stress and anxiety of being chased by multiple men, with guns and trucks...he finally had enough. Sometimes you have to make a stand, that was his stand...to fight; but they're taking out of context (on purpose).
If he wasn't being chased then it would not have been a need to fight. Those racists should have minded their business. They had no authority to do anything.
He was NOT dead before he hit the ground. You can hear him moaning on the ground (I heard him moan 1x while the police were talking). I cannot post the video here but go back and listen to the video taken by cop cam after they came on the scene.
@nirvgorilla a physician is the only one who can declare a person dead. The cops could have at least given 5 minutes of CPR & called the paramedics. Obviously, the cops felt safe around the killers because they weren’t handcuffed or detained.
The good old boys never thought the killing would be exposed to this degree. Caught them flat footed.
More like, "fool" footed.
@@bottlerocket3218 Since you have the right, why don't you do the same and see what happens
@@bottlerocket3218 trespasser? So anytime a blk person goes through a wht neighborhood it's trespassing? You all expose yourselves everytime!
@@bos3835 you poor poor soul
@@bottlerocket3218 I've seen footage of him and many other people walking into a house under construction on that block. Why was he the only one shot? People walk into homes under construction all the time.
So, the defense’s argument is that since Arbery was a healthy young man, there’s no reason he shouldn’t have been able to outrun a pickup truck? I think maybe they should do a demonstration for the jury, get a pickup truck and chase these good old boys around the parking lot for a while, give them a new perspective on things.
And it’s like the opposite side of the coin in the Rittenhouse case, somehow the white guy with the gun makes out better than the people he shot.
So screwed up.
It's so insane. Can't make this stuff up.
I thought the video showed Arbery running TOWARDS a parked truck in the road?? What video did you see?
@@RorRiiZzLE Self defense has nothing to do with skin color, if someone runs up to you trying to attack you, you have the right to shoot them. God Bless America and the 2A
@@toddmintz4269 I believe you have the aggressor and the defender mix up from your remarks Todd there was no reason for the McMichaels to run armed after Mr Aubrey who had not committed a felony and should not have been suspected of committing a felony. At the most Mr. Arbrey committed a misdemeanor Trespassing by stopping at the construction site. If he had been white I doubt if the McMichaels would have pursued him so vigorously. This is obviously an ex police detective, his shotgun toting son, and a neighbor turned vigilantes
I'm just amazed that no one thinks Ahmaud had the right to fight for his life. It's appalling. Was he just supposed to stand there and do nothing at all?
They did that is why they were convicted.
@@34goofylucy 3 men will spend the rest of their lives in prison simply because of blind hatred. Love is the only way.
thats how american law works, proving capitalism doesn't work
people talk about china/russia, this crap doesn't happen in china especially convenience store robbings, and newsflash america, CCTV in schools?....thats not normal
He certainly had a choice not to attack Travis McMichael, but did it anyway.
@@philb8338 Well, the McMichaels and their buddy had a choice to not go around chasing strangers with guns and now, they will spend their lives in prison. As the Holy Book says "And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbor, as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man so shall it be done to him again." Leviticus 24:19-21.
The first police officer that responded says he heard Mr. Arbery gargling, which means he was still alive when he was on the ground. He was then asked why didn’t you attend to him and administer life saving techniques? The cop then said because he had no back up. 🤯🤯 ugh the more I watch the more I think every single defendant should get life no parole. This case is just insanely horrible..makes me so sick.
A person's body can still make sounds up to 72 hours after being declared dead. Bodily functions still continue to process according to my friend who is embalmer. So sound effects is actually quite common from a corpse. Therefore the officers testimony is correct on what he heard but to confirm if he was still alive without checking a pulse or confirming a heartbeat his assessment of Ahmauds status cannot be accurately stated. I believe the coroner's statements and findings.
@@sheiswhitney I wonder if it were a little blonde white girl lying in the street with a shotgun wound to her chest,after having been chased by 3 men in 2 big 'pickup' trucks, IF he would have "waited for backup"?😒
What was he afraid of and why would he need backup, at that point?
IT'S BLATANT RACISM STARING YOU RIGHT IN YOUR FACE FROM THE WITNESS STAND, coming from a cop and "the law"!!
How can YOU NOT SEE this!?🙊🙉🙈👀
@@blacblack7187 ummm.... Sir or Ma'am my vision and intellectual ability to "read & see" what's going on is way above average here... so I'm unsure what exactly you want me to see?! I only pointed out that Ahmaud could have been dead regardless of the sounds he heard coming from his body in relation to the coroners testimony depicted in this clip. I never spoke on the officer's failure to attempt to save Ahmaud's life nor his reasoning behind saving his life because he was waiting on "back up." That wasn't my topic at hand and was simply giving the nuance on why an untrained medical person such as the officer and a well trained scientist testimony are different. 🤔 In fact, why would I waste my breath on calling out the officer's racial prejudice when we already know it exist? We know if Ahmaud was white he would have made an attempt to perform life saving techniques. But that's not the point or issue I was addressing. So please pump your brakes & attempt to redirect all that bravado somewhere else.
@@sheiswhitney A simple check of Mr Arbery's person would have subdued and/or removed any doubts or speculation about the condition of his body after having been shot close range with a shotgun, and IF ANY aid,assistance or comfort could have been rendered in his last moments. Whether or not he could have rendered any aid to a probably,most certainly, dying man wouldn't be an issue now, IF he'd simply done the right thing at the time.
Lol...It took a lot for you to state the obvious, Sir or Ma'am (as if most people weren't aware that the human body can make "sounds" after death---but, not gurgling nor breathing sounds tho!)😒....Look, I simply pointed out the b.s. in his sworn testimony, that you obviously neglected to acknowledge and/or notice(or even mention) in your initial comment (despite your exceptional abilities to 👀👂and "read"). 😏
Im not attacking YOU, so you can drop the attitude and aggression, yourself, Sir or Ma'am. 😊
Have a nice day.
@@blacblack7187 🗣🗣🗣 yeaaaaa... no! 🙄
The *only valid Self-Defense* issue was Mr Arbery trying not to be killed by 3 psychopaths CHASING him in trucks.
its unbelievable heartbreaking. they hunted amhaud.
i remember tv movies about lynchings growing up in the 70s and 80s. i see no meaningful difference 40+ years later. the roots of all the days of our lives, all our children's lives, and our ancestors. mercy on our souls.
@@farrielsharma2240 You’re right. Democrats were hate filled angry racist then, and still are today
Hate is hate whether Democrat or Republican
@@farrielsharma2240 Only racist hate filled angry people in this country are the same ones it has been since the beginning….The Democrats
Breathe Sir. Have a good day.
Q: For Defense Attorney: WHY didn't the 3 Defendants "FLEE" from Mr Arbery in their trucks, if he was such a threat to them?
Nobody wants to ask that question
Listen to the neighborhood witnesses .the man that owned the house down to the killers mom .these men had planned to make sure arbery wasnt gonna step in their neighborhood again .the father ex cop friends with the police .did you hear when the father said was it a rightgous kill son did he have anything on him .the women in the neighborhood that testified with smirky grins o im so scared i cant let my sons go outside i carry a gun .an evil killing that messed up made to look like self defence .in this case they need to be imprisoned
He grabbed the gun from the white guy did he expect a pass because people on the internet don't like whites defending themselves if it so happens to be a black suspect?.
@@memes.5593 Yeah let's conviently ignore that he was chased by and trying to defend himself from 3 rabid animals. Did you expect them to get a pass just because they're inbred and sunburn easily?
This needs way more likes. Brilliant question and slam dunk for the prosecution.
May they all rot in jail.
Amen, and may their seed feel the shame...
And hell
People found NOT GUILTY in any court of law never go to jail. Unless they're WRONGLY CONVICTED as in the case of Derek Chauvin.
They won't. Not guilty.
@TRUMP LOST GET OVER IT! If you haven't figured out WE THE PEOPLE LOST now that Trump's gone then you're pretty much hopeless !
What would anybody do if they're being hunted down by multiple people in pickup trucks with guns? Would you run hoping the pickups ran out of gas or would you stop and try to fight in order to try to save your own life?
I might not run with my back to a shot gun.
C'mon now!!
Both if I had to, if I was outrun and they jumped off the truck, IMA TRY TO KNOCK THE GUN OUT THE PERSONS HANDS, AND YES THAT CAN REQUIRE ME HAVING TO HOLD THE GUN TO PULL IT AWAY FROM THE MURDERER.
You stop and raise your hands. He never needed to fight for his life … as they were trying to arrest him… or make him stop to wait for the police to arrive.
@@TrollHunterxXx he would have just been shot with his hands up
Cops, investigators, medical examiner none of them did their job because he was a Black man and they didn't know his case will get this attentions.
Right
And that's really, really sad. He was a kid SMH.
@Bob Thomas Dude, get off CNN’s dick.
nice, keep pushing that false narrative and divide us even further.
Does anyone know who n how the video was released n made public??
The medical examiner is awesome. It's clear that he's a smart guy who won't have this idiot put false words into his mouth.
You can spin all the things you want. Bottom line is that the three men hunted him down with a gun and he died at their hands. End of story.
There was a boat and a lived in camper on the property. He had been there multiple times during the construction. Even out to the dock. They knew he was black. He was on probation and didn't want go back to jail. "I got a trespasser," Larry English, the property owner, said in a call to police after the first recorded visit made by Arbery on the night of Oct. 25, 2019
In self defense.
I can spin things and so can you "hunted him down"
Defense attorney is just trying anything. Case was easy for the prosecution
Defense attorney is just trying anything. Case was easy for the prosecution
Yeah, there was a struggle for the gun, Arbury was fighting for his life against an armed gang! RIP Mr. Arbury✌
So the guys in the Rottenhomo case
Yeah, trying to disarm the killer's shotgun was the only way he had a chance of surviving. Besides, this angle is useless because they were the aggressors.
@@jakublizon6375 that is what got him killed though. he was shot in a defensive manner. but I assume the fact that the defendants pursued ahmaud and other details of their behavior forfeited their right to self-defense.
@@TrevDawgRS yes these guys chased the dead man. In the rittenhouse case he was chased. That is why the courts got both case correct.
@@TrevDawgRS exactly. Since being the aggressors they can’t claim self defense considering they committed felonies that led to the shooting
For the first time I'm seeing a witness, a expert as they say, that is not grinning, even laughing or being so so nonchalant that it is obvious the witness is cold and uncaring of what they saw and witnessed.
This medical examiner is serious, intent on answering each question with accuracy and is sincere. He knows what he saw in Aubrey's dead body was a horrific crime.
The defense is trying to build a case of self defense, and this medical examiner said the truth..."well a shotgun was pointed at him...and trucks were chasing him". I appreciated that at least here was a witness who saw the results of a massacre of a young USA citizen, and felt the magnitude and weight of this cold bloodied murder.
These defendants are going to prison, no doubt. I just hope it's life sentence, with no parole.
Laura, don’t be so sure my dear. In this world today the crazy that is taking place and the complete lack of regard some have for human life, especially some toward young men of color, I just don’t know anymore! I would say honestly if they get manslaughter charges I will be surprised! They will probably walk free that’s how messed up our “ justice” system is. My heart goes out to this young man and his family. What a tragic loss of his entire adult life over nothing! Racist animals!
If you think it can't get any worse. I saw the video of the body cam of first officer on scene and you can hear the victim gasping for air and moaning the entire video. There was nothing wrong with his hearing so he could hear the men who shot him talking to officer. He could hear officer say minutes later to second officer who ask if there's a pulse him replying he is about to be a 10-7. He had to think this was something out of a twilight zone back in Mississippi in the early 1900s . I seen video of him being in a park arguing with an officer about his rights being violated. I can only imagine the horror knowing how he felt about police and hearing the police radio activity his last minutes on earth. He was unable to give his side of the story but I only wish he knew that he would be vindicated and justice would be served. They will be found guilty, there's no way with the video footage and the evidence presented that they will come back with a not guilty verdict especially with the lack of remorse demonstrated by the defendants. Sorry this is so long but this has just got me so upset I can't stop thinking about it until the verdict is in.
@@kimberleeturner8475 me too…take care
@John Smith well ole johnny boy, do you feel dumb after the verdict was read?
I sincerely hope so 😉
@John Smith Sarcasm or not, you're making a comment literally laughing and joking about a poor 25 year old man who was chased down and brutally murdered by 3 animals. Maybe hold off on the joke for a comedy video instead of a video talking about a young Americans brutal murder. You're obviously too stupid to know when to joke around and when not to.
I don’t know how these defense lawyers sleep at night. Makes me so angry and upset, despicable!
Facts bother you, huh?
They sleep like babies... Very well paid babies... The dead guy won't have to flee crime scenes anymore
@@michaelmorgan2880 no they don’t actually, guilt always messes the mind up
Lawyers LIE all day. Many of the defense attorneys start as prosecutors.
@@gaetanomaximus8650 nope. I enjoyed listening to the jury verdicts on a loop. 😂
Defence person Goff, what a rude, insulting, disrespectful person.
I'm inclined to agree with your assessment of this Goff still I have this notion in the back of my mind But what if his real objective is to cause a Mistrial. Believing he can't win this case a mistrial would work in his favor.
Just plain nasty!
Preventing him from running? How about he can't outrun bullets?
How about you don't enter other people's house without permission, multiple times? How about not running toward a man holding a shotgun, attacking him and trying to take the gun?
Maybe that's why Arbery ended up dead.
@@Colstonewall and that's why the three defendants are going to do hard time. No other reason but seeing the narrative as you do, and then acting on it. The same holds true for any of the rest of you who try this bs.
@@Colstonewall he ended up dead because these mouth breathers took it upon themselves to chase him...3 on 1, with weapons, I might add, and gun him down. How about someone do that to your spawn?
@@Colstonewall Owner of the home said he had no problem with it and that it happened a lot beyond that neither of these racist fucks owned shit. So that irrelevant…don’t worry they are going to make great friends in prison 😏
he was only shot when he attacked and grabbed the shotgun
Typical defense strategy: introduce nonsensical "what if" scenarios and twist the facts to make it seem that ,somehow, the dead victim is responsible for his own death, not the person who shot him. Outrageous!
Not surprising, though. Nothing that has been said during this trial surprises me - just tired of them trying to imply that Ahmaud was the cause of his own death - now THAT's some bull right there . . .
There just trying to make the people think that this young man caused his own death.Just except that this men are as wicked as they come (Period)
It’s called victim blaming. It is a tactic that lawyers use to get their defendants off, I’ve seen it used in r*pe cases as well.
he attacked and grabbed the gun lol wtf you thinks going to happen? you grab someones gun, youre gonna get shot !!!!
@@snuggleseal lol what do you think is gonna happen when you chase, someone, point a gun at them, threaten them, then corner them, then jump out your vehicle and charge at them? They may decide to defend themselves against their 3 pursuers/attackers.
This is so wrong on many levels this man was running for his life they chased him down and shot him in cold blood took the law in their on hand why didn't they call the police the Judge should stop this trial and put these animals where they belong in prison with no possible parole what they did were beyond evil
lmao what trial are u watching?
Yes, it's just got to be that they get a fair trial, even though what they did to Aubrey was cowardly, cold bloodied murder. These three monsters will be in prison a long time. I'm hoping life without parole.
Most criminals with a long list of prior offenses do tend to attempt being detained and arrested again because they are desperate to escape ! ! !
@@snuggleseal The same as all the other K-9s
There's a place in hell for all you racist, I guarantee it.
How do any of these people in Glynn County actually have jobs. What are they doing down there in this county.
Lying
inbreeding
@@samlechuga2652 😂😂
Dude, it's Georgia. What else do you really expect in a case such as this?
There's a military base and shrimp - fishing docks plus a sea shipping port.
It's real easy to find work or if your a lawless theif-easy Pickens to go jogging and find treasures to rip-off and buy DRUGS !
The man is a medical expert, not a firearm/ballistic expert. The defense attorney are specialists at creating confusion.
They tried it, it didn't work! LIFE FOR ALL !!
I did appreciate that the old man said that fear could have been the reason he grabbed the gun.. and that there was two people chasing him.. and that he cannot tell abuery was running to the car..
Fear? He was running right and he suddenly veered left to attack the guy holding the gun. He could have kept running right and things would have been much different.
@@nirv or how about not chase him at all ?? Especially since its been shown hes never taken anything nor was violent nor had a weapon 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
@@nirv I can't believe you people are still holding on to that defense. Hang it up. They were wrong! Just say you prioritize guns over there human lives and/or that you're racist.
@@nirv run or hide
Shotgunn will get u
Best is do or die all out
@@nirv some things can't be explained ...ur logic is 1
He was a big muscular strong black man that was scary! Classic
SMGDH. That’s been said about me. But there was no issue letting me go fight a war for the country.
@Biba Ibrahim facts
They some scary azz White boys that’s why.
@Barry Beaubien yep but what does that have to do with this case! These men and his prior has zero to do with the others? You just want them to be innocent
@Barry Beaubien only ppl from the right know about law! What makes you think I’m a leftist! Aww are you emotionally attached to ignorance?!
"Why was mister Arbery afraid?" "Aside from the man pointing the shotgun at him, and someone else trying to run him down with a pickup?"
I'm sitting here thinking...this could end the same way Travon Martin case did.
These guys chase Aubery down, they were the aggressor, Aubery gets into a scuffle with the guy with the gun, gets killed, now the aggressor has became the victim!
Zimmerman committed all these same actions!
No the Trayvon Martin case is different. Trayvon hunted down and tried to murder someone in a dark alley. This is not the same thing. Unless you mean the 3 white guys are Trayvon then I can see your point.
No doubt!
@@Goodthrust69 First time hearing that version of the story🤷🏾♀️
No not this time
@@Goodthrust69 what.
Making a case for why the police didn’t check on him💀that’s wildddd
Not so wild. Eric Gardner left him on the sidewalk but handcuffed and unconscious..Andre Hill shot in his garage dying on the floor and handcuffed....Breana Taylor no effort let her lie there..George Floyd...no pulse but continued applying pressure for another 3 minutes... Philandro Castille.
Apparently, you didn't hear the testimony from the first officer on the scene, that the scene wasn't secure and he couldn't focus his complete attention on Mr. Aubrey. The second officer to arrive on scene did check on Mr. Aubrey, but nothing could be done for him.
Let's not forget this all happened after they cornered him with the truck, yelled threats at him and kept chasing him... he was already running for his life! He had every right to go after the shotgun!!
also we know he had his hand on the shotgun after the first shot, we don't know what was happening before that...
@@UraStr If he would have gotten that gun we would have 4 dead people in the street.
He was running and fighting because he didn't want to go back to jail.
@@crand20033 this is pure speculation at this point. Prosecution proved beyond doubt that the killers did not know about any previous criminal incidents from the victim. She proved beyond doubt based on law and evidence that the killers, even if the victim had a prio, Had ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS doing a citizen arrest on the victim in question
@@andmos1001 They had seen him before acting shady.
I cannot imagine Ahmad's mother must be going through in court. Reliving her child's last moments. 😭
MAY GOD GIVE THE PEACE IN HER BROKEN HEART! IT MAKES ME CRY FOR HER AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW HER!
Man I know it’s killing her! It’s sad! They literally hunted her son 😢
She was laser focused on getting him justice. Now she can cry and try to heal.
Just wanted to add...fight or flight= if you cannot flee you fight. Just because it is clear that Mr. Arbery had plenty of "escape routes" visible to anyone with working eyes does NOT mean that his legs, lungs or heart could run anymore. I'm sure he was trying to get home, legs burning, lungs on fire and heart pounding. I cannot even begin to imagine the terror he must have felt when he realized that they were not going to stop chasing him.
Anyone with the will to live would have fought.
Like anyone else, ones past mistakes or crimes do not automatically doom them to death.
Let's not forget. Those three (and all their neighbors) knew nothing about his past OR HIM.
Maybe a friendly wave and a "how's your day" could have ended all this crap differently.
God willing, none of them will ever sleep soundly again !
Why fight or flight if you are completely innocent???? If I was on someone construction site as a private property and I would be asked “ Hey what are you doing here?” It would be easy to explain ( if I have a valid point ) prove that I did not steal anything….In the situation that no one would believe me…the cops would be called and I would be investigated and proved my innocence.It is hard to believe that for doing all of that I would be just shot.
@@echoe4806 Yes, we totally believe that you would succumb to 3 bozos with guns who are not the police and yelling they will blow your fucking head off. Yep, got it. GTFOH.
@@Papillon_2010 ua-cam.com/video/phSJiYOHYnw/v-deo.html
@@echoe4806 And? You are not obligated to listen to a stranger's commands, regardless of their former occupation. And Travis was visibly carrying a firearm from the passenger street and yelling extremely loudly as the 911 call can attest to. This wasn't some random guy on the street coming up to you and politely asking how your day was and where you've come from. This was an armed stranger chasing you in a vehicle, screaming at you to stop while cussing and swearing.
@@Birthday888 The way the media showed the events is exactly how you presented it.I had the same opinion like you before.But after watching closely video footages from surveillance cameras and also watching 8 hours of trial my opinion changed completely.The interesting fact is 90% of people commenting here accused me of racism because of that.Just because I have a different opinion doesn’t make me an racist.Ahmaud Arbery had a criminal past.The second thing is trespassing.In that neighborhood there were burglaries and theft and residents were frustrated.Ahmaud was seen before on surveillance camera late night.One neighbour ( not the McMichael’s) saw Ahmaud and he started to run down the street….( not jogging) The McMichael’s noticed that and yelled at him to stop because Ahmaud was a suspect.This is the part we’re the McMichael’s we’re wrong.They grabbed their weapons.Citizen arrest was legal in Georgia and carrying a gun also.The McMichael’s called 911 before the chase.The police was on the way.They were trying to catch the guy and hand him to the police.If that was successful they would still be charged for aggravated assault.The shots were fired only when both guys were wrestling for the gun.In the video you clearly see Ahmaud running directly at Travis McMichael…not running away.This is the strangest part of the case.If you hold a gun an tell someone to stop and the individual is ignoring you and keep running towards you what would you do? Where is the intent murder?
Just one person could have gone to him and held his hand so he knew he was not alone,so sad no empathy from anybody.R.I P young man
do whites hate blacks that much
Asking the Medical Examiner any questions about how he feels about circumstances isnt relevant. His only job is to point out the damage to a Human being, that resulted in death
You don't decide what is and isn't relevant. But thanks for trying
@@rjwood6314 neither do you
@@baddazzyellaboi he wasn’t… That was his point smh
Hey Stephen, thanks for stating this in the comments section. I’m sure the court will take the input from a random hillbilly youtuber into consideration. >.>
YES! Finally someone said this. I totally agree
yes there was something PHYSICALLY preventing him from running… it was the TRUCKS he was being chased with that were blocking the road and the man with a shot gun chasing him off of the road to kill him
Exactly
or the guy standing in his truck bed holding pointing a rifle at him? maybe just maybe
They hunted him down like he was some escaped slave, sht is so sad.
Exactly
Wrong … they were trying to STOP him … big difference … shots were fired only when he attacked the father with a shotgun
Those autopsy photographs of Mr Aubrey brought tears to my eyes, what Travis did to him was beyond stomach turning . The injuries are appalling but they never bated an eyelid when they were shown.
And they want his mom not to react. That is crazy I can’t imagine
@@martinacook9120 not only that, but they have tried suggesting her more than reasonable outbursts influence the jury and make it “unfair” to the defendants. Those ugly sacks of flesh masquerading as humans can’t even fathom the grief that a mother feels seeing her son’s corpse. If there was any justice, all of the defendants would spend the rest of their miserable lives rotting in prison.
Omg they showed that?
I thought they didn't show his pictures to the public?
@@PECUNIA-DE-VIE certain news outlets yes, some did not
i mean i'd fight back too if someone chased me down and pulled a gun on me. not to mention that this trial wouldn't even be taking place if they had just called the police instead of chasing him
Or if they hadn’t chased him down with guns..
I can advise, for the purpose of prolonging your own life, that you shouldn't attack someone who is armed and trying to, even unlawfully, detain you. You likely will not win that. Just stay there and call the police. Then you can if you choose to press charges against them for false imprisonment among other things. If they're asking you to come with them somewhere that could be interpreted as kidnapping and you should definitely try to defend yourself as that is dangerous.
Rule of thumb to stay safe in life, just because someone is being unreasonable doesn't mean you should in turn, especially when they have a gun or any weapon, or are more physically imposing, etc.
@@king_slimy8859 It is debatable whether fighting back or not is the best course. I’m not sure if he knew what was going on.
@@king_slimy8859 He tried desperately to remove himself from the conflict. He was a black man in deep south Georgia where three hillbillies are shouting threats to his life , brandishing weapons and throwing their trucks at him. He had every reason to believe they were out to kidnap him, cause him bodily harm or corralling him in to hang him later. He didn't have a phone to call the authorities so he tried to leave the neighborhood until Bryan directed him back into satella shores. He had nothing on his person at all.
Basically what you're saying is he should've submitted and trust that total armed strangers in pickups who aren't law enforcement weren't there to cause him bodily harm or end his life.
Keep in mind in Mr Arbury's mind he had not done anything wrong and they never informed him they were performing a citizens arrest.
@@king_slimy8859 Everyone reacts to what they perceive a threat differently. It's not always rational. That's why you don't chase someone down with deadly weapons and threaten to blow their heads off. Especially if that person hasn't committed a crime. That person will have no idea why you're acting the way you are.
this stuff is heartbreaking
"So, he was, essentially, dead before he hit the ground?"
"Yes."
"And, in your opinion, doctor, would being dead before he hit the ground prevent him from running or fighting?"
"Well, duh."
Yeah, the defense is a total jerk.
How could he be dead before he hit the ground and the cop said he was gurgling and still alive?
@@nanaberry4120 "Essentially", as in, his injuries were likely going to prove fatal. But, to the cop attending the scene, who is not a medical professional, he should have TRIED to do something for the human being lying on the street. At any rate, my comment is speaking to the idiotic attempt by the defense to suggest that Arbery's movements after the 3rd shotgun blast were entirely within his control and ability to make rational decisions and act upon them, when in medical and material fact his body was suffering the shock of mortal wounds and already beginning to shut down altogether. Not that this should have required explanation, but here we are.
The cop said he was alive when he got on the scene. He said Arbry was gasping for air
Agonal breathing
@@Derail07 Regardless still breathing
@@thescorpion4685 true.
He was gasping for air and the bastard wouldn't help him. I pray that they all burn in hell.
@@thescorpion4685 Naw, he's technically dead! Agonal breathing is just a gasping reflex, it's not really breathing. It's just a muscle response to get air to an already dying brain.
Who chased who? Who brought the loaded firearms to the scene? Who would have been tired from running? Who approached who with a loaded deadly weapon? Who's finger was on the trigger? There COULD NOT have been a citizen's arrest, because no felony had been committed in the McMichael's presence. And being former law enforcement the elder McMichael would know this. So essentially this became and aggravated assault, which is a felony! There was a specific intent, due to the fact the son went and got his shotgun, while the dad went and got his .357 pistol. At that point they decided to chase this man down while committing a felony armed with loaded firearms. The shooter stated he had no choice but to shoot, meaning he intended to pull the trigger. Whether or not he was being beaten is speculative at that immediate point, being that either man could claim self defense. But the aforementioned circumstances prove otherwise since it was the McMichael's that chased down and approached the victim for no legitimate or lawful purpose other than to intimidate or kill him. Self preservation and adrenaline kick in when being confronted with danger or life threatening situations. Obviously Aubery was tired from running, and must have felt desperate at that moment, which invokes human nature to survive. McMichael got out of the truck, with a loaded shotgun. Aubrey didn't make him get out. These two should die immediately and the third should spend 20yrs in prison thinking about it.
Arbery ran and fought because he was a convicted felon on probation and didn't want to go to back to jail. normal people would not do that. Arbery was diagnosed in 2018 with schizoaffective disorder, a combination of schizophrenia and mood disorders. In a June 2018 call to 911 his own mother warned the operator that Arbery has a mental condition that had "escalated", and would make him violent if officers were to aggressive with him. 🦘
@@crand20033 none of that was known or relevant at the time he was murdered, not did it have any bearing on use of deadly force against an unarmed man. In addition to the fact c t these men had no legal authority to stop or detain him. He had not committed a felony in their presence, he had no weapons or stolen property. I have placed people under citizens arrest before, and what I witnessed warranted my actions or reactions. There was no speculation. That's where the bar is set. As a cop, I've had to take custody of a person several people detained for committing larceny from a building, and they witnessed it as it was taking place. These clowns make the keystone cops look like genius detectives. I applaud people protecting their community and neighbors. But there is a right way to do it. Not the way the McMichaels handled it. I don't care what color or race any of them are
@@crand20033
Are you freaking kidding me? Keep supporting the murderers and demonizing the victim.....
Unbelievable people have this much hate in their heart.....smh
@@crand20033
The criminal is the Mar-a-Laga CON Artist 45!
@@crand20033 all bad things about Aubrey' life can be considered but does any of it justify being persecuted by a motorised vehicle and 2-3 strong men? Seriously man?
Any human being who saw these pictures today, should definitely feel sympathy. Bless his mother and though she was not in their to see them, the world saw her baby dead n lifeless, heartbreaking 💔
I was shocked!! Those holes in him were huge 😩😩😭
@Barry Beaubien Sick
@Barry Beaubien you ARE sick and SHAME ON YOU for your inhumanity... In here disparaging the Dead and you can't even spell smh BOY BYE... Get out of America we don't need your kind here anymore
@Barry Beaubien it is, did you hear the medical examiner today, apparently not. He was not a thief, thieves have items on them, in their possession..He did not...you texting wild and crazy things. I know what you are getting at and you can dismiss yourself off my comment page. No room for reckless chat.
He is trying to say that Arbery could still have run away instead or fighting with McMichael. Which is true because he wasn't cornered.
If Mr. Arbery was a threat to the three armed men in Pickup trucks, why didn't they flee the scene.
@@My_Fair_Lady They should've did to you what they did to him
Blaming the victim. It’s despicable!!!
I guess that's what people would be saying if their kid would have been shot ..
Most people's kids wouldn't have acted the way home boy did here.
@@gaetanomaximus8650 how did homeboy act?
@@gaetanomaximus8650 yea black people dont go hunting down white joggers its just not in them
@@LC-lb5jf Aggressively and violently, i.e., the usual.
@@tylercouture216 White people don't go hunting down black joggers, obviously.
People think that corruption and incompetence in cities is 100%, and 0% in small towns and counties. But… it’s really 90% in both…
We still need to deal with the racist prosecutor and law enforcement officers who were all complicit in trying to cover up the murder of a Black man that was really a Hate crime.
The da was the one who covered up the case and she is already bee indicted
The case was handled wrong from the beginning...so very likely what was presented to the DA was not incriminating...so the mishandling of the case started AT THE SCENE!!!!
@@kevinrichardson8859 Uh na, nice try. The father worked for the DA & knew her personally. She was lookin out for him. When lookin out for a friend goes wrong. She’s not off the hook either she’s awaiting trial as should all the officers on the scene.
So if someone points a gun I shouldn't try to fight back or grab it if I think someone I don't know is trying to kill me. Yall make it make sense. That was being hunted down and he was trying to defend himself
Exactly.
The thing is if aa had his own gun and pulled they would’ve shot him and said the reason was because they feared for their lives
Why would he “Fear for his life”? And if he did, then why did he run TOWARDS the truck?
@@snippetsordinarylife
There is absolutely no way you understood what she was saying.
@@toddmintz4269 Both directions were towards the truck.
I just found out there is one more level in Dante Hell levels, just for lawyers.
This trial is disgusting. The defense lawyer is disgusting. I can't believe our society.
It's the defense's job. He doesn't necessarily believe it.
Just a job.
Arbery would be alive if he didnt attack and try to grab the shotgun. Firearms 101, someone grabs your gun, they are considered armed, you are well within your rights to shoot them.
@@snuggleseal He would be alive if the men who shot him were not racist. However you spin it, that is the case. I would not be surprised if they get off though. The Judge, the Jury selection, the atmosphere all harks back to the early century where black people had no rights whatsoever and this southern city is doing whatever they can to keep that cultural heritage. The only difference now is they are just nice and "respectful" about it - coz you know...no one wants to be seen as a racist...not even a racist!
As someone who carries a gun, you don't ever put your hand on my gun whether I am robbing you or holding you at citizens arrest. You will not like the outcome.
Are you kidding? When he ran your client chased him down with a truck. So yes there was something preventing him from running, he already tried that, fighting was the last option.
So disgusting for the defense to try to get the medical examiner to say Ahmaud could have just kept running from his murderers chasing him all around the neighborhood. That lawyer should have to demonstrate by running the same route being chased by trucks with shotgun wielding racists. I doubt he would last half as long as Ahmaud did. 🤬
Frankly I see this type of questioning lame the victim having his hand on the instrument that's trying to kill him implying he's responsible for his on murder!
Its crazy victim blaming but if they would have waited the police and not chased him with a gun he would have never been shot its sad that young man lost his life
No one grabs something to take it with their palm up. I think he didn’t run more because he might have thought he'd be shot in the back.
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking - they're trying to imply that Ahmaud caused his own death by grabbing the shot gun that was pointed at him.
@@Thebeautiful11 Also from earlier testimony, he was exhausted from literally running for his life.
@@andimurray2896 well thats what i think. thats what the video shows too
Fight or flight is not always a conscious decision and it's not only triggered by being trapped but it is triggered from fear. If it were only triggered from being trapped none of the people that have suffered injuries from flight would have tried to run away because they would have realized it is less dangerous to stay where they are. If you are afraid you either run away , flight, or you stay and defend yourself, fight. It's encoded in the DNA of every animal on the planet, human or otherwise. If you're being chased by a car you don't run away from the car you run towards it because the car can't change direction as fast as you can. He made a conscious decision to run towards the truck to evade capture but when he saw the gun his fight or flight took over and he instincts chose fight.
Years ago I attended training the Air Force provided for those working with sexual assault victims given by Dr. Lisak who helped the AF develop their Sexual Assault Prevention and Response program. In that training, a third element was added. It was Fight, Flight, or Freeze at least in the case of sexual assault. I wonder if it applies to other crimes as well where a person is so frightened they physically can't move and freeze like deer caught in the headlights.
@@lovelessm You cannot compare sexual assault with someone being just a suspect, an innocent person who can just simply explain and prove his innocence.Not sure why everyone is talking about fear, flight, fight…if you are really innocent.
Why is him defending himself not self defense in this trial but it is for Kyle? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE AMERICA
You can’t be this dense, darling.
My thoughts exactly. So, if you're a white man with a gun, and you insert yourself OR you aggravate/provoke the incident, and you shoot people/and they die or are maimed, then you are allowed to call it 'self defense'. Got it. Execute them all.
Jessica let’s see how you feel if it was your brother r hubby 🤔🤡🤡🤡🤡
Simple... wrong skin tone
It will never make sense in USA as the corruption and low IQ are bound together, just read the comments here and move to a civilized country.
Omg. He was not going to get shot in the back!!!!!. He was exhausted from running 🔥. He had to fight for his LIFE ❤
I don't KNOW the extent of Ahmaud's jogging history.When he went jogging he probably paced himself,the distance etc SO he would'nt be TIRED.Imagine him breaking from the jog,looking at the house,picking up the jog again.The trucks follows him,cuts him off,bumps him,causing him to change directions & tries to BLOCK him in.He would probably be BEYOND,TIRED.IF THE KILLER jumped out of the truck & began to attack him,HOW much of a fight COULD Ahmaud put up?
@@ddss3042 DID THEY FIND A SINK,BATHTUB,TOOLS,2x4's IF he had those I guess THE KILLERS would say he was ARMED WITH A DEADLY WEAPON)ALONG side : HIS DEAD BODY? RE: "THE INNOCENT BYSTANDER"his lawyer was BUSY doing :HE'S TOO MUCH OF A IDIOT DEFENSE.
@@ddss3042 He certainly had the physique of a committed jogger, and his friends and family have all said he loved to run, especially through the big Oak trees; he also liked the scent of the salt water when running by the ocean. The only time he didn’t enjoy it when it was pouring rain. One shoplifting charge hardly makes him a career thief and there was zero history or evidence he had ever committed a burglary. I agree, the Mcmicheal’s belong in prison. The third guy sees a black man running down the street, with the MCM’s following him in their truck with shot guns - he didn’t ask the black man if he was okay or needed help - he yelled to his neighbours in the truck, “you got him?” Then hoped in his own truck to join the pursuit, running Ahmaud into the ditch. Not one of these “men” ever treated Aubrey as a human being. Their racism is so engrained - the homeowner had explicitly told them the black man in the video had never damaged or taken anything from his home - yet they grabbed their shotguns anyway.
Sounds like to me mr. Arberry were trapped by animals.
No, it's that the humans were attacked by an animal.
can someone explain what the hell is going on? he tried to get away from a gun pointed at him because he didn't want to get shot but that is what got him shot? huh? the hate and rage in those racists hearts is what killed Ahmaud.
Did you even see the video? Arbery was running right then suddenly veered left to try to take the gun. He charged the guy. Hi dude. Nice brain.
@Mark Calous
That's literally what happened in the video. Whether they are guilty of murder is independent from whether Ahmed veered left behind the truck.
Lies all lies From the video when Mr Aubry was laying on the ground the cop said he was still breathing
And even if he was still allegedly breathing, they were his last breaths - the cops wouldn't have administered CPR to save him anyway. They're just trying to cover their collective a$$es.
Straight lies, even if he was breathing the cop never administered cpr or any type of aid, they gave those racists an whole interview while Ahmaud laid dead; murdered.
Essentially. People must not read.
@@MsFunnybags Exactly... Comprehension and vocabulary are not strong on this (or most) UA-cam comments
riiiiight because cops NEVER lie
I’m confused as in to why it was written as g*n shot wounds due to struggle? Why wasn’t it just multiple g*n shots to chest known as hom!c!de???🤬
That's whty people for you.
They add in the word “struggle” to alleviate blame from the white shooter. They would never have used the term had a black man shot and killed a white man.
Because they were trying to make it seem as if Ahmaud was shot because he decided to fight for his life and not that those animals chased him down and murdered him.
It helps their narrative, they were initially saying home invasion until the parents kept going down to the D.A office. They didn’t think it would go this far smh
@TRUMP LOST GET OVER IT!
Well they covered it up for about three months before that video was released.
The man is not a DETECTIVE; he was there to tell you that the FIRST SHOT was UNSURVIVABLE, which was TRUE. All McMichael had to do is step back and call an ambulance FIRST, then call the police.
I'm in NOLA right now; if you call an ambulance here, the NOPD will escort the ambulance to the scene, to investigate FOUL PLAY.
The only procedure that'd sucked here was that the police arrived to the scene BEFORE the ambulance; that within itself, tells you that they had no intentions of saving the man from his injuries.
He’s about to cry because he knows what is happening here. He did undermine a lot of the BS questioning in a very powerful way and the jury knows it. Kiddos to u sir for knowing what u were doing up there. You did a great job not letting the defensive twist things.
Kudos*
Ahumad Arbery did the right thing by trying to defend himself if he had turned his back Travis or Greg would've shot him in the back. So he tried to disarm Travis Mcmichael he was fighting for his life
I hope all the lying as h ones rotten in internal hell.
@Jay Jones Any8in their right mind will do whatever it takes to defend protect themselves when someone is trying to do harm to them it your natural instincts.
@Jay Jones Bullshit. The only criminals are the ones on trial for his murder.
@Jay Jones The only rabid dogs are the racist idiots who murdered a perfectly healthy young man who had his entire life before him. Shame on you for being blind to hate and intolerance.
Not true, they only intended to detain, not kill him. The very fast ex-football player could have simply run away.
I love how the prosecution never objected to these ridiculous questions, they knew it was better to let the defence dig their own graves.
I agree with you but I heard an objection
And they did 😆 seriously just commented how I think this helped convict because their leading questions backfired and actually confirmed their theory is bs
I will believe in justice for black ppl when 11 black jurors and 1 white juror can sit and deliberate the case!!!
Why?
@JagBrit the question was about the jury being 11 black and 1 white and what that implies, not asking for a bs history lesson from someone with a chip on their shoulder
@@michaelmorgan2880 there are 11 white jury and 1 black in this case. Just think 🧐 ?? They could have included and Asian, Latino, Indian, etc.
@@brandonjablasone7544 ok
In hindsight was justice served?
I’m watching from the UK and bloody exhausted with this BS! Literally have to turn it off after a while, What part of these 3 Murders killing Ahmad while he was on a JOG on CAMERA is Ambiguous, I pray the family of Ahmad get justice!!!!
You're exhausted by a fair trial?!
@@jshepard152 first of all this was written 2 weeks ago DURING the trial before we knew the outcome!! Secondly yes exhausted with the fact that another black male has been murdered for no reason other than his colour and his murders who by the way were allowed to go back home after the murder, were not arrested until an a public uproar after prosecutors swept this case under the carpet, so excuse me for being sick and tired of AmeriKKKa!!!
@@Asha-gf4mq
Yes I'm aware. You assumed the trial wouldn't be fair and you were wrong. Probably best not to open your mouth since you're very poor at predicting the future.
@@jshepard152 lol history has proven that the justice system is horrifically racist and biased when it comes to giving justice to black people, I don’t need no crystal ball for that! We shouldn’t even be celebrating this, this should be the norm 2 men kill someone on camera for jogging in white area, shud be an open and shut case but we know AmeriKKKa does not function that way, which is why people were anxious! Shame on you for pretending that the justice system is equal for all when you blatantly know it’s not!
What’s the reason the safety wasn’t on?
The only person that could claim self defence is no longer here.
Dead Men tell no tales yet…the video speaks loudly for Mr. Arbery .
Blessings to the family.🙏🏽🙏🏽♥️
JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED!!MR. ARBERY FAMILY CAN NOW SLEEP IN PEACE KNOWING THE INBREDS WHO SHOT HIM WILL DIE IN PRISON. AMEN
This is proof that even people who go to college and grad school (defense team) can be stupid as hell.
When Judgment comes for these hateful people, they have a 400 year tab. Reparations would've looked good in court. May the Most High God deal with them
Gonna take a war to get them racists out of our society.
And YOU!
@General Ranking Compared to Einstein? Very. Compared to YOU? Not at all. In fact, compared to you I'm a genius.
@General Ranking No speculation required. If someone is stupid enough to ask of me "How stupid are you?" then he has to be a drooling idiot. BTW, who has red skin? Are you regurgitating Afrocentric racist idiocy?
Amen!
Nothing preventing him from running but being shot in the back... at least he got to see his killers eyes and they will see them even when they close their eyes in prison
a cop who was trained in CPR says he heard a death rattle from Arbery as he laid on the ground - and didn't give him CPR because he did have enough training. Now the coroner who was not there is saying he was dead before he hit the ground?
Essentially preceded that statement. It's a figure of speech.
He most likely meant that only Jesus could have brought him back, no amount of human intervention.
This is not up for debate. This video says it all. The cop didn't even know where he was shot and refused him aid. ua-cam.com/video/pqfUY1urbLk/v-deo.html. He knew AA was still breathing.
The whole neighborhood is just good Ole boys, they all agree that Mr. Aubrey should not have been in their America...especially their neighborhood.
No matter which side you’re on this examiner is clearly lying. Everybody at the scene admits he was still breathing whether that is clinical dead or not no way for this examiner to know that. I’ve been in the military and seen true professionals react and operate this guy is clearly lying in favor of who he is siding for.
Thank you for clearing things up.
It’s important to hear all sides of things
Yea it doesn’t make sense sadly if this wasn’t on tv these guys would have walked
He is clearly giving his opinion of his observation of the.video, you are giving your opinion based on irrelevant observations of other ebents.
He was essentially dead before he hit the ground. I took it as he was unconscious and in the process of dying. Beyond any help medicine could offer from his wounds. Clinical death shortly following was inevitable.
"Dead before he hit the ground," but still breathing on video AFTER police had arrived... mmkay...
Essentially. Reading is fundamental.
Well clinically dead and “dead” aren’t always the same thing. Legally dead refers to an irreversible condition of ceased heart and lung function. Clinically dead can be reversed if immediate action is taken, but without intervention will become irreversible, thus legally dead.
It's an irrelevant argument period! The 3 incestuous Hillbillies tracked , stalked and hunted this man, then killed him! They threatened to blow his F**cking head off... now is this up for debate?
Angonal breathing idiots.
He was dead. And not one person performed any life saving measures. That should be a concern.
Sad to read people giving this man crap, he is literally just doing his job and explaining what he thinks happened based on what he learned from the wounds.
The need to put the whole police department on trial.
Defending cold blooded murderers is despicable.
It's there job
@@Pedroismdoesnt make it right
It's called insurrection... He had every right to defend himself which includes grabbing the gun and punching...
This line of questioning is more than questionable; it's objectionable.
Blessings to Mr. Arbery loved ones, justice is served so let the healing begin.
The mom, Dad, and siblings will never heal. Mainly the parents will grieve their son to the day they die.
If Arbery was in fight or flight mode, then he felt threatened. If he felt threatened then he had the right to defend himself. Imagine how scary it would be to have a truck with two armed strangers chasing you.
You mean 2 trucks with 3 nut jobs chasing you.
@@williamwalcott8808 No, as a black man with 3 white men chasing you in a white neighborhood IN GEORGIA and yelling they will blow your F'ing head off and you have no phone, nothing to try to get help. Let's imagine that.
"So you had no idea what he could be afraid of right?"
*"Well, there was a man holding a shotgun so..."* lmao
Why is this lawyer asking the medical examiner how many times he punched someone ?? How is that relevant . That’s not his job
He is the defense, he is trying to make it that his client, I assume one of the Dad/son duo had no choice in shooting Aubrey, out of Self Defense.
@@laurabook9492 wasn’t self defense though . Lawyer making himself look stupid asking questions which a medical examiner don’t want or need to know .
@@alisonhughes6476 yeah actually it was self defense. Why are you ignoring that he veered sharply to the left to charge the guy holding the gun?
@@nirv you’ve answered your own question there 😂😂😂😂 lucky you’re not a lawyer pahaha ha
Bro what would you do if people followed you then pulled guns out. Wouldn't you immediately draw your firearm to defend yourself? They clearly murders Aubrey.@@nirv
How dare he try to defend himself after someone points a shotgun at him. After being hunted and cornered like a rat. He should have trusted that they just wanted to ask him some questions and make sure he wasn't hiding a generator in his shorts.
The defense lawyer just explained that Arbery could still have run away instead or fighting with McMichael. Which is true because he wasn't cornered.
@@crand20033 So it's the victim's fault that he didn't know the proper fear response when he clearly tried to go around the truck and was cut off. Fear often causes a freeze before fight or flight kicks in, if there's even time for flight. I pray no one you love is ever placed in this type of situation.
@@crand20033 You really need to STOP......Seriously.
@@karened2378 Why go around the truck? Just run away. Travis told him during the chase they wanted to talk to him they only wanted to talk to him. They never had any intention to kill him and knew they had no legal right to kill him unless they were attacked - - - - and they were.
@@crand20033 well I guess you should return your law degree because those idiots are in jail until they get carried out in a box. Maybe you can visit them and put some money on their commissary. Malice and felony murder. Look it up. And try a little better to hide your obvious bias.
The defense is that the victim was murdered because he tried to defend himself. Pathetic.
Defend himself from what he wasn't being attacked, he attacked the guy with the shotgun first, trying to take it.
That old man testifying shouldn’t still be working…
Exactly!!! You would think so right. It seems that these ole farters don’t believe in Retirement. I think the Country should have an age cutoff. They allow them to continue to work when they can barely hear, see or remember. Can we please have some Refreshments 🥱🥱🥱💯💯🤣🤣🤣
Why? Because he's telling the truth and you hate the truth? Yeah.
@@nirv Hell No!!! Because he can’t remember the Truth and when he looks at his paperwork he can’t remember what is the truth and instead of being in a courtroom he should be Retired and somewhere on his Yacht enjoying his life and trying to remember how many times he actually told the truth. The Truth is the Truth and you don’t forget the Truth
Yeah! He should follow Arbery's lead and NEVER work!
@@brendajohnson5976 clearly you didn't hear how many cases this man works on, even young medical examiners refer to their notes during a trial because they examine many bodies and testify in many cases it's important to refer to your original notes to be accurate in any case.
As a medical examiner, the only thing he should be questioned about what kills that it was due to 3 gunshots what part of his body how far the damage to his body from each shot which shot was the fatal shot of each shot to Ahmaud Arbery not how he was killed, him saying or discussing the struggle of a shotgun should be stricken. He is trying to say that Ahmaud Arbery incited the struggle of the shotgun that he was the aggressor
The prosecution has been failing to object numerous irrelevant questions and evidence.
He should have been objecting at the line of questioning. Still trying to make him the aggressor.
I thought so too
I've noticed this many times. However, it could be because these lines of questions don't harm what they feel is a very strong case.
They also probably realize that the defense's questions are sometimes so ridiculous that they are having the reverse effect in the direction of the prosecution's benefit. The Jury cant see the def attorney ask the med examiner if he thinks the fear the victim faced was bc of a fear of being caught (when there is a shotgun pointed at him) and think the def attorney is not completely ridiculous. Let the Def attorney be bat-shit crazy in front of the jury lol. If you're going to help my case I wont stop you.
I think the prosection is just letting the defense attorneys ruin their own case. They don't need to jump in and let the jury know what the defense attorney is saying is ridiculous. For example, the whole bit about how nothing was preventing him from fleeing is hilarious in its own right because they were literally chasing him in vehicles and he was on foot. I mean he wasn't gonna be able to flee, that much was clear from the video
The question should be why was there a shotgun in the defendants hands in the first place.
The gun would not have been struggled over and a man would not have been killed had the defendants left there big boys toys at home. WTF call the police and let them do their job and stop being a vigilantes.
What a shame.
i guess these defendants will have to grow up now. and stop playing cops. Now they are criminals.
and I hope Justus is served.
carried a gun for self defense. He thought arbery was armed.
@@crand20033 other than the defendant’s incorrect assumptions of the matter, in reality, the victim did not threaten the defendant in any way until the victim eventually charged him when cornered. Why arm yourself with lethal force when no threat is present (admitted during cross examination)?
@@adamharris4014 I guess the retired cop still thought he was a cop. You can't take the cop out of a cop just because he retires.
Are you serious. This lawyer makes me feel sick to my stomach!!!. Listening to him ask the questions he is!!!!!!. This is disgusting
Half this attorney’s questions are so dumb. Asking if the medical examiner knew about what happened at Larry English’s house? How’s that relevant? Also, not much happened at English’s house. Ahmaud walked into it, left the house, and jogged down the street. 🤷♀️
This lawyer is sick.
Doc seems like a decent guy..
1rst shot, wrist bleeding we couldn’t see bc in front of truck. He fought hard to live.😭
So horrific! This should be considered a hate crime and they should be imprisoned forever along with their attorneys and anyone who helped them. He was trying to save himself by disarming his MURDERER! And he didn't shoot him, he punched him. The aggressor gets what they deserve when someone is fighting for their life!
Fight or Flight response to all those who wonder why he finally fought.
Wrong, he was on probation and didn't want to go back to jail. A Class 1 felony Vehicular Hijacking, or Carjacking
@@crand20033 Another racist trying to justify the death of an unarmed black male
@@crand20033 lol
Does this attorney really think he's asking these questions in the defense of his client?????
He's doing too much smiling and laughing on the stand..... would not be doing all that if it was his child or grandchild
Wtf is up with the attitude in this country that some people seem to have that if someone pulls a gun on you, you don’t have the right to try to stop them from shooting you?? Like, oh they have a gun, just accept your fate and don’t fight back because then they will be justified in shooting you! It’s absolutely insane.
Did they determine how far this man had run during the chase? Or how fast he had to run to try and keep away from a moving vehicle? I hate the defense, but that was a good "gotcha" moment with the fight or flight. "He could have still fled" suggesting he opted to fight instead of continuing to flee. With the stress and anxiety of being chased by multiple men, with guns and trucks...he finally had enough. Sometimes you have to make a stand, that was his stand...to fight; but they're taking out of context (on purpose).
If he wasn't being chased then it would not have been a need to fight. Those racists should have minded their business. They had no authority to do anything.
"Nobody hates like a Southerner." - James Dickey (Author, 'Deliverance')
Useless Lawyer: "Looked in good physical shape at the autopsy" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF..the guy was DEAD...
He was NOT dead before he hit the ground. You can hear him moaning on the ground (I heard him moan 1x while the police were talking). I cannot post the video here but go back and listen to the video taken by cop cam after they came on the scene.
That's called agonal breathing.
You are accusing the white guys of murder but you think the cop should feel safe rendering aid while they are all standing there?
@nirvgorilla a physician is the only one who can declare a person dead. The cops could have at least given 5 minutes of CPR & called the paramedics. Obviously, the cops felt safe around the killers because they weren’t handcuffed or detained.