Atomos Creators | Alan Stockdale - Shooting ProRes RAW with the Sony FS5
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Alan Stockdale of Foundlight productions explains why he shot Apple ProRes RAW with his Sony FS5 and Atomos Shogun Inferno monitor/recorder for the new Schneider Kreuznach MOVE series. The video explains how a relatively simple setup shooting ProRes RAW can yield some spectacular results - even when time is short. When combined with Final Cut Pro X on Mac you get a complete RAW workflow that is remarkably powerful, yet easy to use.
To learn more about ProRes RAW and how it can transform your creativity head to the Atomos website www.atomos.com...
You can see the finished film here -
DANCE • Move Series by Alan St...
SKATEBOARD • Move Series by Alan St...
FREERUNNER • Move Series by Alan St...
GYMNASTICS • Move Series by Alan St...
You can find out more about Alan here www.foundlight....
And on his Facebook page here / foundlightproductions
Many thanks to Schneider Kreuznach www.schneiderkreuznach.com
So delightful to see this workflow!!!
I'm just a dwarf with my little Sony a6300, but one day I'm going to be a giant....just like you, Alan Stockdale!
Thank you for this inspiring video, Atomos.
3:47 Damn bro. You rode you bike handling that rig. I tried that with a bag of tacos and landed on arm staring at the asphalt. I did manage to save the tacos but I don't think I'll try that again.
LOL!!!!
I’m excited to get started in prores RAW! Btw.. don’t fight the magnetic timeline in FCPX! It’s brilliant.
wooohhhh 4K at 100fps on the fs5? is that correct??
Super!
Getting too much grain from shogun at low light. But internal recording looks great .Any idea what Im doing wrong?
Was that a glidecam he’s using in the gymnastics flipping shot?
Please add this to the Ninja V, with a SDI module.
They did.
It's like you had a crystal ball ;)
@@AtomosChannel can you record ProRes RAW With the Ninja V from The Sony FS5 via SDE now??? Is that what you are saying?
Awesome stuff!
I’m recording prores raw ext to ninja v from a7siii and getting insane noise/grain in all parts of the image, even at base iso. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
4 to 5 hours for 1 min? Man that’s a lifetime!
What is the mb/s for shooting ProRes RAW on the FS5?
would be fantastic to have a link how to use DNXHR RAW or CDNG RAW on PC/Premiere Pro. Everybody talks about prores! What about pc users? I use Inferno with fs700 on PP and I am completly lost when it comes to CDNG. I used the pure raw stills as a 'sequence' so I got the raw video file but it does NOT behave like a raw in terms of editing, comparing for instance Photoshop editing (same CDNG stills).
My other issue is that Inferno blows out the highlights in DNXHR(external recording in slog2) while the same image is OK on the internal AVCHD...the monitor also showed correct image (HDR mode).
Btw it would be also nice to have a proper Inferno review which explains all the features in depth and not just praise it...
Rastinfilm Rastinfilm YES. I wish they come up with DNXHR RAW. I’m a PC user too and have no plans on switching to Apple. It’s too expensive and PC is much more flexible.
About the image you’re getting from your Atomos screen, I think it’s a bug that happens when you use Atomos with Sony? There are a few videos out there explaining how to use Atomos with Sony.
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Thanks for the feedback, there's info online about the first section of your comment, send us a support ticket if you get stuck and we can point you in the right direction.
We always record what comes out of the camera as full range and when an editing software interprets what we have recorded it can look different to the footage from the internal camera. In a future update we will have an option for full range/legal range. Thanks.
How many stops are people normally overexposing by? 1 or 2 stops?
Atomos, You are amazing with how flexible you design your gear for future upgrades. Can I make a request? Can you work with Blackmagic to record Blackmagic RAW. Prores RAW is only good for Mac users, but you can run DaVinci Resolve on both Mac and PC. Or if between you, Nikon, Sony, etc, maybe you can pressure Adobe to start importing Prores RAW into Premier. That would work too. Thanks.
Thanks for the suggestion, no plans at this stage however I'll pass on your comment as a feature request to our development team. Thanks
Can you use the large atomos monitor to color correct your footage w/ FCX? I si one of your shits it seems to be previewing footage from your Mac 💻? What I need to connect it to my Mac?
Hey there, you'll need a 4K AJA IO|4K Plus to connect it to your Mac. Thanks
What ssd do you need in order to handle 4k RAW? Any recommendations?
Hi Santaella Media. Luke from Atomos here. Thanks for reaching out. The best place to check SSDs is on our supported drives page - www.atomos.com/drives Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions.
When will DavinciResolve work with ProResRaw?
The weird noise on the last shot (skateboard) tolds that DR is not enough and "12-bit raw" just a fake raw with the cutted details in shadows.
Will the Ninja V be able to record ProRes RAW?
Hi Todd. Luke from Atomos here. Thanks for the question. At the moment the Ninja V cannot record ProRes RAW as there are no cameras that push a raw signal out over HDMI. Let me know if you have any more questions.
@@AtomosChannel "At the moment"… Interesting wording
@@AtomosChannel Will you guys make an sdi module similar to the time code module that perhaps converts the SDI signal to HDMI. Like the stand alone ones you guys make that take the canon lpe 6 batteries.
Does the FS5's still only shoot UHD or can it export true 4K through the Atomos? Also is there a minimum amount of time for a clip? Thanks
With the RAW upgrade you can shoot DCI 4k aka full 4k at 4096x2160. This also bypasses the cameras internal 8bit limitation.
@@JCTechFilms Thanks Joe, That's amazing. Why buy the FS7 now... ha
Egghead Films Different tools for different jobs!
Do you know if the Sony FS 7 will have the same progress raw update?
Hi @Thom Jensen, thanks for reaching out. Luke from Atomos here. The Sony FS7 is already ProRes RAW capable - all you need to do to record in ProRes RAW from the Sony FS7 is connect it to an Atomos Shogun Inferno which will receive the 4k Sony FS RAW signal and record that into ProRes RAW. Hope this helps.
What gimbal did you use?
Dji Ronin S
Are you using the Sumo19 as an HDR color grading monitor at 3:38? If so, can that iMac output HDR display?
LOG footage is HDR. That is, if you can record/play LOG footage, you can view/edit it in HDR. The reason you don't see it on a "normal" screen, or it might look blown out on a camera such as the FS5 or a computer/monitor such as the iMac is because those are Rec.709 monitors. As long as you set up your edit/preferences correctly, that is telling your editing software your grading in HDR; you can edit HDR content on the sumo out of just about any computer. I can use my MBP or my iMac and have used both to do so.
Thanks for your response, @@JCTechFilms. How is your MBP and iMac connected to the Sumo19? Is it simply HDMI? If not, what connection do you use? Do the graphics cards on your two machines support the necessary signal to a Rec.2020 monitor?
Brandon Loshe you can hook up directly via HDMI or use a Blackmagic SDI to HDMI converter. The graphics cards are really a non issue.
I’m watching this in 480p
What's the gimbal here?
@@KaleelZibeWildLeopardFilms Did you only get it to work in underslung mode? I have Ronin S and Fs5 and couldn't really get it balanced with a cine lens similar to yours (18-110)
That's quite a big cinema lens. A cine prime would be best.
Kaleel Zibe For sure, I was replying to Derek who said he tried balancing with a cine zoom.
I also tried to balance the Fs5 on the Ronin-s this afternoon but someone screwed our other tripod plate onto our camera too hard and can't swap it for the Ronin one hahaha. I think it'd work though. Surely people here on YT have tried it already
See this: filmplusgear.com/the-dji-ronin-s-and-sony-fs5-review/
When will ProRes RAW be compatible with Premiere Pro CC??
This is what I want to know
It already is and has been..
The only way to edit Apple's ProRes RAW right now is through Apple's Final Cut Pro
@@NoahWilcoxDP Is "Apple's new Pro Res RAW" different than recording RAW to ProRes with the Inferno?
They're the same. ProRes Raw is new codec as of April 2018. You can read more about it here. www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_RAW_White_Paper.pdf . Atomos announced support for this codec on April 5th, 2018 and they were the first ProRes Raw recorder on the market. www.atomos.com/press-releases/atomos-delivers-proresraw
The only way to edit this codec as of now, is through FCPx. Resolve nor Premiere support it yet. That's just classic Apple, though
Please could you send me www page, where can I buy this sdi-cable from your video :)
This would work very similarly! amzn.to/2TPfIPJ