ProRes RAW Part 2: How to Shoot ProRes RAW And The 3 Things You Need
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2018
- Wondering how to shoot ProRes RAW? In this video I show you exactly what cameras and other accessories you need to start shooting ProRes RAW video!
Here is an outline of the ProRes RAW series:
Part 1: What is ProRes RAW - • ProRes RAW Part 1: Wha...
Part 2: How to Film ProRes RAW (you are here)
Part 3: Editing and Grading ProRes RAW - • ProRes RAW Part 3: How...
To shoot ProRes RAW you need 3 things.
1. CAMERAS
Sony FS700R
(you need the FS700 "R" model or the standard FS700 with a RAW upgrade)
eBay: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-532...
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/AH7SjnR
Sony FS5
(For the original FS5 you will need the RAW upgrade)
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/wXym
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Sony FS5 Mark II
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Sony FS7
(For the original FS7 you will need the RAW upgrade)
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/L3x3
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Sony FS7 Mark II
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/BlIY
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Panasonic EVA 1
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/rP4Mc1a
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Panasonic Varicam LT
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Canon C300 Mark II
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Canon C500
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
DJI X7
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/M3ARx
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
2. EXTERNAL RECORDERS
Atomos Shogun Inferno
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/IUWPF
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
My review: • Atomos Shogun Inferno ...
Atomos Sumo 19
Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/PRdqsv
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Atomos Ninja V
B&H: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
3. SSDs FOR RAW VIDEO
Any of the following drives from AngelBird should work with PRR. You can view all of these drives here: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/An...
AV PRO MKIII
Atomos 4K RAW ECO
AV PRO MKII
AV PRO MKIII
Atomos 4K RAW ECO
Atomos 4K RAW
AV PRO MKIII
Atomos 4K RAW
Also check the Atomos SSD Compatibility page on their website.
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All 3 parts of the series are now up!
Part 1: What is ProRes RAW - ua-cam.com/video/eXPApYc6Id4/v-deo.html
Part 2: How to Film ProRes RAW - ua-cam.com/video/qDwilffCJgw/v-deo.html
Part 3: Editing and Grading ProRes RAW - ua-cam.com/video/Pc6Nt2UlTQw/v-deo.html
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DSLR Video Shooter Hi, like your Videos, could you pls do a compatison between the FS700 RAW (DNG) and the BMPCC 4K (DNG). Why? Both are interesting cameras. FS700 because of RAW, HighSpeed, ND Filters, XLRs and Battery Solution. The Pocket on the other Hand RAW, Color and Sizefactor. But which of them delivers better dynamic range and better color, that is the Question. Would like to see it on your channel. BG
DJI X5r shoot raw native
Hi, thanks for this video .
Do you think that a video assist 4k would work as the inferno?
It’s mind blowing how many things have changed since these videos came out.
Dude, you're killing it with this series. They're super helpful and you're as efficient as possible in getting the most important message out! Kudos!
Thank you RWE! Means a lot!!!
Killing it still
In 2022
Great series thus far! Lovin' it!
Thanks so much Caleb! This is the shortest 12min video I've ever watched. More! Can't wait for part three and four. Btw, Netflix should hire and pay you do to videos like these. Perfect and concise.
Your videos are on point and easy to grasp. Thank you for the breakdown. Your videos are so crisp !
I'm also loving having an "old" camera getting pimped by Atomos the whole time, that's the future, not changing everything the whole time, but updating capabilities - also the way to go ecologically for companies!
Thanks so much for the amazing videos as always Caleb! Been following you for years now and you help me out so much!
Love that you’re breaking this all down for us! Thank you!
So comprehensive and well-explained!
Thanks!!!
Soooo informative Caleb! Keep it up, I love your channel and the work and passion you're putting into it.
Thanks Chris!
Your channel is the most informative on youtube man.. Thank you for always taking the time to teach us your knowledge! You are much appreciated 🙏
Thank you SR!!!
And two years later, this puppy is part of the family now ;) Thanks to you. Wishing you the best in 2022~ 🔥
Great video series!
Thanks boss!
Hello from Bulgaria,
Very interesting videos.
I learn so many new things.
Tank you!
You're amazing caleb, love your work!
Thank you!
This was sharp! Nice info!
A heavenly color grading 👏👏👏
Eergonomics aside, I think you can get great images out of the FS700-RAW combo. That is why it's still relevant. As a cheapest option, probably many will look at it... Caleb, it would be VERY INTERESTING to see a detailed review on the FS700's dr, iso capabilities, best settings and limitations... THANKS for the great content Caleb. Keep up the good job, sir!
Great video man!
This is so over the top for me and way out of my budget but still very interesting to learn about!
Great job Bro as usual :D
Great info, nicely done:)
Thank you. you teach like a good teacher. I wish you have more and more of this kind of Video.
Excellent video !
Great and inspiring video, though, good luck with yout new shooting options!
Thank you !! i have been looking at this setup for months now
Love the combo. For the money it is incredible.
Yeah! Someone else using an FS700/ Some days I feel like I'm the only one left using that cam. It's been really great with my Shogun Inferno.
First class info well presented.
My FS-700 is still relevant which is kind of astonishing. Just my discontinued Odyssey 7Q is becoming the weakest link. Great stuff.
Thats a quick turn around for part 2. Thanks for the extra effort. Ry from Dubai
Thanks Ry!
Great stuff!
Another one 🔥
Awesome video, as usual, thanks.... BTW I think the Ninja V is capable to record proresraw but the problem there is not dslr camera that you can output that codec with hdmi, I hope they update the odyssey 7q+ also because I have the fs700 (good news for fs700 owners)... did you try any work around with the HDMI to SDI Converter?.. thanks againg for your videos
That helps me allot. Thanx !!
Hi - FANTASTIC Video! You mention at 9:35 you say you will have a separate video about the FS700 and the set up you use for all of its different capabilities..... soooooooo .....
Where is it????
Yeah I will see it
hell ya, I've had an early version of the FS700 and just got it back from Sony repair in Jersey and now it's 4K Raw!! I just did a test shot and it's about 2:11 long and the file in hq is 8 gigs! It looks insane!
Great information presented very well. Thank you so much. Are there any cameras coming out in the future that you are looking forward to that will record ProRes RAW internally?
Thanks for the video's Caleb! Just got a really nice FS700 RH complete camera for an amazing deal (1900) now saving up for the inferno ;-)
Very thankful for this series, makes catching up very easy. Will you be going into the what the image out of the FS700 (via RAW) looks like/can look like? I've been on the fence about it for a while now. Its got all the specs but it still has that terrible colour science and I'm not sure if that will be a deal breaker fro me.
PS: You're doing well with the sign off in this series, keep it up ;-)
Helpful, thanks. There are some recorders, which can also handle PreRes Raw, for ex.: Convergent Odyssey .
I really appreciate and love these very in these videos, you are helping me so much to learn these very awesome and professional skills! I have the FS5 and the Shogun Inferno, I'm about to get the raw upgrade and start diving into this very soon, I'm wondering if you have a recommendation for a good quality SDI cable? Merry Christmas brother!!! Thanks again for all the great videos!!
Amazing helpful series! Well done! Great job. Keep up good work man.
Got a question tough, with Sony FS-7 mkii , when wanna record ProRes Raw on A.Inferno , do we have to get SDI signal feed from Sony XDCA-FS7 Extension Unit ( recorder ) or can we get signal feed directly from the camera?
You sir are awesome! :)
Wow ! you explain so well ! Thank you for your work and I willl wait for the GH6 or GH7 to possibility of prores Raw ! I got 3 GH5 for now and Like everybody , waiting for the real spec of the black magic ciné 4K to see if we change for that !
One thing to remember, at least this is a huge one for me, is not all raw output is the same. The EVA 1 is a 10bit raw output. That's one huge reason I love sony because they have 12bit raw output, up to 16bit raw output. They also have those nice color bit depths at HFRs too. Just a thought.
Great points Levi! Definitely something to consider when choosing cameras.
current atomos shogun inferno records 10 bit.
Black magic raw for $1300 on the Pocket4k. Mic drop 🎤💥
Hey, you are doing very informative and relaxing videos :-) I have a FS700 as well in combination with the Odyssey 7Q+ recorder. It is limited to Rec709/Rec709-800%, Slog2 and RAW. The combo delivers great pictures but one downside is the noise level at ISO minimum 2000 with Slog2. My question: is the ISO free selectable with Prores RAW? So you could avoid the noise? Thanks!
I Love my fs700 - although oh do not has the raw update. It's a beautiful form factor and even couple years later I can upgrade it and get like you said a brand camera 😍
For $500 (I think) you can still get the update!
Hello! Thank you very much for the video! Have the same setup. Now my question, you film with the settings of the camera in S-Log 2 and with Iso 2000 THX
Thanks for the video! Great information there! Comming from RedCode is was asking my self that you are not able to change the color sience later right? so lets say you record in Slog2 you can´t go to cine4 when using sony for example. So its different from the raw I use on the Red but very impressive as I have seen in the shot of the fountain.
Oh and by the way lucky for all the people that bought a fs700 when it came out. Still state of the art. Shot al lot on that camera back in the days. Its crazy that it still is in line with all the cameras and features in 2018. Love for the FS700!!!!
Nice videos. The DJI X7 requires an external recorder but in this instance the external recorder is the Inspire 2 airframe which has the built in CineCore 2 recording system. The camera itself has no ability to record internally at all.
Great video especially since I'm still pretty new to digital video. I have the Lumix G85 and have had some difficulties editing the cameras files and being able to successfully color grade them to my satisfaction. I am using the studio version of Davinci Resolve on a decent computer, so that's not the issue. So from what I understand is that I can use the clean HDMI out from the G85 which is 4:2:2 8 bit according to the specs, and record Prores or DNxHR onto the Atomos Ninja Inferno. I read that the GH5 works the same except the HDMI output is 10 bit. If all is true, then there are a lot more cameras that are capable.
Really cool Series! can you make more?
nice video i learn a lot
Caleb off subject but..
On the fs700.
There's been plenty of interesting gimbals coming out. The moza X & the zhiyun lab 3. Any idea if those would pair well with an fs700? They seem like they may compared to current options.
I'm just bringing it up because you may be one of the few people with interest/insight. Also I'm on edge about getting an fs700.
Thank you!
Hey did you end up doing the FS700 RAW outputs video?
I can't seem to find it.
Love your work.
Thanks :)
Great series! Hey, do you think Atomos will come up with a firmware update for the Ninja Inferno to do ProRes RAW, or will it just be for the Ninja V? Thanks!
Hi Caleb, Thank you very much for all the useful infos. One short question (you might have a quick answer for): Is it a good idea to use Blackmagic Hyperdeck Studio HD Plus as the ProRes Raw (LT) recorder for a Sony FS700 (over SDI)? I could very well use the Hyperdeck for ATEM use cases as well. 🎩
Color grade on point as hell in the talking head 🤘🤘🤘
Very much so. Would love to know camera and lens used for talking head.
Thanks Fly!
Shot this with the GH5s and vlog.
Cannot believe how much things has changed in just 5 years. I just got a Nikon Z8. A small device that can do internal ProRes Raw at 4K 60P if I remember correctly.
Man, your vids look so good at lower res(720p). Been moving the browser between my two different monitors at 4k - 360p. Nice work. How does one balance the youTube compression and video export properly?
The internal recording of the FS700 is Sh*t! But when you do external recording it's a BEAST! I think it's amazing that such an old camera still holds up to the standards of 2018. I love that camera!
beastbarr what is the best external recorder in your opinion. Is inferno the best match? I seen several but so far I have not pair it yet on my FS700 thanks for your help.
Roberto Cienfuegos I would say the inferno. Since it can record the new proress raw, and the user interface is fairly easy to understand :-)
beastbarr Thank You. Have a great day.
Yeah. I can not believe the results I'm getting via PRR out of the FS700. Incredible for the money.
DSLR Video Shooter perfect. I was looking the comparable Odyssey 7Q+ but so far with this ProRes Raw this is the best. Thanks
Thanks dude. Helpful. Can the a7riii record prores raw to atomos?
7:10 “media fast enough to handle the data” explains one thing to me; I take 3D video on my Nintendo 3ds and recently it’s telling me that it’s not able to write to the SD card at the appropriate speed- that means I need an SD card powerful enough for it to be written onto the Nintendo 3Ds 3D video
Great video! :) Can you please tell - what camera is used to film this episode?
First of all , you got a great lighting look in this episode . I like it !
Second , I want to ask : what about the regular cinema cameras that been used in Hollywood for years like Alexa and Red ?
Don't they record raw ?
If not , then what codec do they usually use for shooting Hollywood movies ?
Thanks a lot.
They use ONLY RAW! ONLY! or FILM for special occasion. Also, they use not "shity raw' from fs700, fs5, fs7 etc. If they use Sony cameras (as F55, F65, Venice) then it is 16 bit linear raw. Not 10 bits, not 12 bits, not 14 bits - 16 bits! You can grade it as You want ))
Best video
Hello Caleb, First of all Thank you so much for the huge amount of information that you have provided online for free for us. I've personally learnt tons from you.
I have question:
I am a Film school student and in the meanwhile I am trying to get a nice reel for the future.
For this term I have a PSA project and I am planing to rent a Canon C300 to shoot it, just to get a good impressive dynamic range, different texture of the picture (Cinematic look) and learning more about Canon C300, My question is: I don't have the budget for renting a recorder Shogun to get Pro Res, I was wondering if I am not able to shoot on Pro Res, would you recommend to rent C300 for those purposes or I can get them in a lower camera as well?
FYI: apart of the camera I am going to get everything for free through the School that I am studying. I really like to shoot with something more serious and bigger than my Canon 5D mark iV or a Sony A7 iii.
Thank you again.
BTW, I wrote proresRAWHQ 4k DCI 60p on a cheap $120 512GB SSD from SanDisk, and it handles it without issues. And you don't need120 fps capability, It is buffered in the camera and goes out as 24p timeline (or 30/50/60, if you set this in camera settings)
Nice! I'll have to test my drives again. Some of mine didn't care much for PRR.
Same here. I use a $130 Samsung 860
Love it! How long will that SSD last?
Glad I held onto my old fs700
I was waiting for this video, now that I see the prices, it’s clear that I need to revisit this type of upgrade in several years. 😭
Well, it's been several years...
Hi Great video. Quick question. Which SDI cable should I get. Theres a lot of different types of SDI. Which one will be able to record 4k Prores RAW in 120fps ? thank you :)
Thanks for sharing, awesome video... I have the Sony FS700R and the Ninja 5.2 with the Atomos Connect with an SDI input of 12g and ProResRAW activated ,,,, but doesn't work. Any Idea? thanks
Revisiting this video 5 years later and boy were your predictions correct about more cameras coming soon with ProRes RAW support! I can shoot 4k60 RAW with my $2500 R6II and 8K/30 RAW on my $3300 R5, record it on my $500 Ninja V+, and easily edit the footage on a $500 Mac Mini. Filmmaking on a budget has come so so far in just 5 years. Even my iPhone has ProRes up to 4k30 now lol.
Great video! Do you have a full review for the FS700?
Yep!
With regards to recording prores raw, what about the Blackmagic Video Assist? I currently using this with Nikon D810 and works fine with me.
Fingers x’d GH5 will have an update for HDMI export for pro res raw. Come on! If the DJI X7 can do it internally the gh5 can export it for external recording. SURELY!
HDMI can raw?
if you look at the white paper on it the data rate isn't that high... so i don't see why its not possible, as long as panasonic buys a licence from apple for it.... but im no expert on hdmi/data rates
www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_RAW_White_Paper.pdf
biscuitsalive you are right, wait and see
That would be super great!
The blackmagic Ursa mini lineup also does internal prores raw.
Is Inferno the best match for my FS700 ? Thanks
How have you mounted the nato rail, it’s so hard to find a alternative to the handle the fs700 comes with
will Sony FS700 prices now spike like old Mac Pros? Keeping an eye on this for sure!
Do you know if the fan noise from ANY of the recorders has a tendency to interfere with recording sessions? ( adds noise to microphones wherever they may be placed , but especially if placed near the camera.)
thanks so much for this series. I have the Lumix G85, what SD card would you recommend? to handle 4k?
Lexar 1000x could be enough for the 400Mbps codec.
Lexar 1000x could be enough for the 400Mbps codec.
Help needed. How to have the "RAW upgrade" with the FS7? bu buying the extension unit or is there something else?
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you have to purchase the extension unit for the fs7
Hi Caleb. Will FS700R output HD via HDMI while outputing 4k via SDI? I’ve read the manual but there is only info about internal recording in HD while outputing 4k.
we need an updated video for 2020
I agree, I'm watching this in 2024
Can you tell me what you use to connect the external monitor to the camera? An articulating arm ? Hot shoe to 1/4 inch? A cage? I have a sony a7iii
Mako Sports Thanks. What I meant was what type of articulating arm to connect camera to external monitor. Like a hot shoe to 1/4 inch....
a newbie question, when using prores raw with all its flexibility, does it still matter to output 8 bits or 10 bits? i would imagine raw kind of replaces the flexibility of 10-bit
Can you send me the link about the Sony fs700? Also is there an angled shutter option on the fs700?
kindly comment about nikon z6 prores raw with the ninja , is it the all great raw like red raw or market gimic was considering this feature to buy the z6 and not the sony a7iii
Hey you mentioned you were gonna talk about the camera in a later episode ( I too have have an older FS700R). Can't seem to get it to record in 4K. Couldn't seem to find where you talk about the FS700 specifically. Can someone point me to that video if it's here somewhere?
Sony needs to upgrade it.
Hey can you do a settings vid on the FS 700 for the raw ? I just did a test and it is kinda grainy and it was in low light with auto settings..
I SECOND THIS
Please make a DIY/low cost Tally lights video.
Wich camera are you using for recording your self, looks awesome!
GH5s :-)
Can You please let me know is it worth buying this camera in 2022? What’s your view upon connecting it with Blackmagic monitor or recorder? 4K
What camera and profile have you used to record that video, please?
I shot this with the GH5s and V-LOG L.
I think this is the main reason you would want to buy the upcoming 4k blackmagic pocket cinema camera. Wayyy cheaper than all the other raw cameras that are currently out