Oura vs. Oura: The Ultimate Sleep Tracker Showdown!
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- In this video, I put Oura to the test against…Oura. After owning my ring for nearly 2 years, I wanted to see if I was still getting my money’s worth from this sleep tracking device. So I bought a second one. And for the past few weeks, I’ve been wearing them side-by-side to see how the data compares.
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I’ll be sharing:
- My surprising results
- Wear and tear of ring over time
- Data accuracy
- Biggest takeaways from experiment
Products mentioned:
Oura Ring: ouraring.com/
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Please note: This information in this video is not to be taken as medical advice. Please consult with a professional before you make any changes with your health protocols. Not sponsored or affiliated with Oura.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:55 Oura Ring 101
2:06 The Oura Experiment
2:58 Wear & Tear
3:25 Accuracy
4:31 Data Discrepancies
6:36 Deep Sleep & Fitness Stats
7:25 Final Takeaways - Наука та технологія
Really great to hear the final takeaway and the evaluation over all between the two. I think it's great you're being transparent to your followers for how you're growing and change your view on the technology/instruments you leverage.
Thank you so much, Stephen! This was an especially humbling video for me to make because I do a lot of sleep experiments using data from my Oura ring and rely so heavily on it from day to day. And even though it's a phenomenal tech device, it still is tech at the end of the day...and the data shows it's not perfect. And so my biggest hope for people watching is that they can get the same benefit out of the lessons i've learned about the importance of listening to your body, not just the device when it comes to sleep!
Did you switch up which hand the new ring was on? it would be interesting to see how alternating would effected the discrepancies. maybe what you are measuring is difference between your left and right side / or how the ring interprets the data from your left as oppose to right. it would be interesting to try out 2 new rings and test them on both sides.
Love it! So fun to look over all the comparison data!
100% agree! Thanks for watching!
That was great! I found that particularly useful as I'm primarily interested in tracking sleep and have concerns about the relative accuracy of the various options out there. I'd love to see you compare the sleep trackers you've tried. Thanks Katie!
Thanks, John!! Appreciate the feedback -- accuracy is top priority for me when it comes to experimentation and so I will continue to seek out more products to do testing like this. I'll probably do a full year review where i compare all the best sleep products out there for accuracy, so stay tuned for that :)
I love your video! The takeaway is great. Makes me think.
Maybe it can be in part because you bought the ring & tracked the first months. Oura does say that it takes a few months to learn your body so maybe after time they would sync up more. I noticed when I first got my Oura ring the calorie burn was higher & from memory deep &/or REM were consistently higher as well as readiness to begin with but then evened out after a few months. It could be more related to the learning period vs the established consistency.
Informative comparison. Good to know that the basic metrics HRV, bpm and temperature hold in accuracy over time.
Right? I was pleasantly surprised.
This is a *fascinating* video. I love the depth of data collection you did and the care you took in thinking about it. I think your conclusion is really smart.
No one would have the money or time for this, but I wonder what would happen with more than 2 rings haha! Also would love to see one of these analyses for other devices, it’s just such a smart way of understanding how precise these measurements are.
thank you so much for such a celebratory comment! i totally agree on wearing multiple rings on both hands but would probably go broke trying to do so!
this experiment has opened my eyes to the possibility of testing out more products in this fashion and i look forward to being as transparent about my results as possible. so stay tuned for more like this to come!!
Could discrepancies be attributed to the ring(s) ‘learning’ your body as the older ring may have fine-tuned things more extensively? Did you get any response to this from Oura? Thx for all your efforts!
What a great idea!
I too probably put to much weight and tendencies on my Oura ring data. I have read somewhere that the Oura ring is known to under estimate Deep Sleep and over estimate REM sleep.
This was intriguing. Thanks.
thanks, Charles!! I appreciate the feedback so much and I hope this video shed some light for people on this matter!!
I just got my ring yesterday and am already learning something…I never heard of latency and I fall asleep within 2 min, but I don’t stay asleep. Your videos are interesting, 🙏 thank you.
Good video. It’s nice to use them for a while or if you’re having a bad week but they should exist to get you on track
well said! it's all about learning from your data and then taking action! the oura ring won't fix your sleep :P
Thx. And great quality video!
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you! Been using for over a year. Any tips on not being so obsessed about the data? I was thinking of buying another and wearing two for better accuracy until I found your blog article and video.
I feel you! It's hard to not see a bad score and let it impact your day. Easiest way (but takes some discipline) only check once a week!! Keep a log of the habits you do daily, but don't compare with your sleep results until the end of the week. Then at the end of the week you can look at correlations to habits. late night TV, late dinner, afternoon caffeine, exercise, meditation, etc. Then you can adjust. I think it's great to be obsessed with data! I certainly am! but it's not particularly healthy to be obsessed with daily data!
Fascinating about the temperature data. I was wondering what happens if your bed is warm.
it is indeed! one of the reasons I invested in the chilipad mattress cooler is because I noticed my temperature going up at night, which can be disruptive to sleep cycles. since buying the chili almost 2 years ago, i have seen the temperature stats on my oura ring lower as a result. but it's unclear how much ambient temperature the ring picks up, which could also be a factor at play here.
useful review, thanks
Another good video. A few comments - I have ordered my Oura ring should have it soon. Secondly have you shared your findings with the company, i would hope they comment on it. Finally my opinion when you started the analysis was that the older one would be less accurate. Thanks again and keep it up.
Hi Joe! Thanks so much for leaving such a detailed comment. So excited to hear yours is in the mail! I haven't shared my findings with the company yet, but it's something i plan to do shortly (unless they find this video and beat me to it haha). I was surprised to see certain stats were totally in alignment, but others were drastically off. i think what this means is that i need more rings!!
Katie Type A that is funny - clearly you like Jewlery 🤣
@@joemardini4180 i have some nice rings don't i??
Great review.
All good points! Out of curiosity, why didn't you swap which ring was on which finger?
Im thinking about selling my Apple Watch 4 in order to get the Oura ring. But I’m not sure yet. That’s why I will watch your video now
i have an Apple Watch 4 too and use them both! totally depends on what your main goals are, but I prefer tracking my workouts on the Apple Watch. But hey, the new one is coming out soon and might have an updated sleep component so we shall see!
So it's directionally accurate. That's what I've read in more complex studies as well. I find mine comfortable, and a nice looking accessory. But I definitely use it for trends rather than taking the metrics at face value. Thank you for posting. I'm glad to see this stands the test of time.
Thanks Devin! Yeah, I still very much value the data but I am now worrying less about daily scores.
I makes sense that for the calories and deep sleep the rings would have a lot of discrepancies, mainly because those are areas that have seen a lot of advancement in knowledge and tech, so if I was going to trust one more, it would be the newer one, but that's just me - and I agree whole heartedly that we shouldn't rely too deeply on these techs, they are a guideline, not an exact directive - great vid, Thanks!
Hi, did you shared your work with the compagny ? I think they need all this in order to increase accuracy with the firmware and a possible Oura Ring 3 ! Thanks :)
Interesting there would be such a discrepancy between temperature and calculated REM! Have you mentioned these findings to Oura? Might be cool to see if you could get a response. As always, thank you for being so detailed in your analysis and breakdown!
i have not yet, but that is a great idea indeed! i'll keep you posted on what they say. i may need to buy a few more rings for each finger to test this out again before the end of the year!
@@katie_moore Please do this, Katie! I just found your channel today in my recommended from searching Oura Ring reviews. I plan to purchase one today and appreciate this experiment and your offering an honest, realistic perspective on devices. Binge-watching your videos now! 💓
Fantastic Kesha! Congratulations! That’s a big step on the road to better health.
I’ve got a few friends who have oura rings. I might try and do a month with 4 at once in the future!
@@katie_moore Please report this, I am so curious if you'll receive the same crap answers to all of my inquires and issues that I did. I used to promote Oura, but I have lost hope and faith in them as a company based on how they have handled many of my ring and my husbands ring issues. Super bummed!
Thank you so much for this! I was wondering if you happened to take a precise measurement of each of your fingers? Is there a chance that the size/fit ratio allowed for this discrepancy? Perhaps the ring showing higher temperatures might be a slightly tighter fit??? Seems like that might also correlate with the other discrepancies....
Possibly! Could also be which hand was under my body or the covers. I wore the on fingers that were relatively the same on fit
brilliant idea
thank you for watching!
Hi Katie
Did you try to change fingers? Perhaps the Irregularities is due to wich finger the ring is on?
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I might not have watched in super detail: did you observe any correlation between which hand you wore each ring on? Did you try to wear the same ring on the same finger or did you switch it up?
Hi! Would like to know the diameter of a size 7 oura ring. Thanks!
Wow, I did not expect there to be such discrepancies! I wish Oura would somehow confirm/verify which ring is giving you more accurate readings. I wonder if your older Oura ring might be eligible for replacement under their warranty?
thanks for the great comment, Gloria! i'm planning to reach out and see what they say, but i don't think i am eligible for a replacement at this point. i'm going to swap the rings on different hands and see if my results still vary, so stay tuned for that one!
i had to use ring expanders ie stick foam to the knuckle side inside the ring for better fitting , do you think this interferes with the sensors in some way ?
as long as it doesn't cover the three bumps it should be fine. I expect a few nights of use will tell you if the results look accurate. I don't see any problem with that. Sorry the fit wasn't right. any chance you could still send it back for a better size?
I would be interested to know if the results were still the same if you switched the rings up and changed hands. Compare that for a month as well.
Really awesome review. After watching your videos and your praise for the oura ring I bought an oura ring. On the first day of wearing the ring over night my ring stated I had negative body temp.
Any similar experiences?
yeah! it may take a few days to normalize. Also every once in a while you may get days that are completely erratic. Don't stress over individual days. I would start to worry if you see a high body temp for 3+ days in a row.
I'm still in the trial period (first 30 days), and I'm testing the Oura, the Whoop band, and the Dreem 2 headband. Both Whoop and Dreem return very similar sleep data, but the Oura returns much smaller times for deep and rem sleep. I've downloaded the data and have identified when the differences occur. Now I only need to figure out why. Have you done any comparisons like this?
Wow that's awesome! I did a review of the whoop and compared the data with my oura ring. video here: ua-cam.com/video/kVVQyI4enEk/v-deo.html I saw some discrepancies though it was hard to tell which one was right. I haven't got my hands on the Dreem 2 yet. I had the Dreem 1 but it was a pain to sleep in which has kept me from buying the 2. have you found it difficult to wear while you sleep?
@@katie_moore Just watched your comparison video, and yeah, it's hard to say which one is right. It's like they say: "a person with a watch knows what time it is. A person with two watches is never sure." But I think I'll go with the Whoop, since it had results similar to those from the Dreem2 (which I'm assuming is more precise than the Oura, since it uses EEG). Also, I had no trouble sleeping with the Dreem2; neither did my life partner. We both found it to be very light and comfortable. Maybe it's worth a shot.
I just launched my review of the dreem 2. I loved it! thanks for the recommendation! the review is here if you'd like to watch ua-cam.com/video/o-S9ELR9zuw/v-deo.html
Do you have an Oura Ring? Leave your feedback below!
I do! I got mine after watching your first video on the Oura Ring. I watched a few from other creators, but yours was the tipping point to purchase it.
Go Douglas! This is why I make these videos! hope you're learning from your data!
@@katie_moore I am learning, thanks to you and some others.
Ordered sizing kit & ring today
Could you make a video on improving sleep? CBD oil, melatonin and magnesium do not do much for me. Thank you!
Yeah! In fact I have a couple upcoming videos on tactics to sleep better! Stay tuned!
RE: the diff temps around 5.5 minutes into video... So I take my forehead thermal swiped temp 2x on the right and 2 on the left. There is a .5+ degree diff almost every time. Not always right or left. So your fingers would have diff temps from day to day... I would say that IF you redo the experiment, you'd need to swap hands each day / / or wear both on one finger / / or ___?
Great point. It raises an interesting point that just to get consistency within comparing your own data you should probably stick to one finger. I sometimes switch hands from night to night and this may impact result. It’s very hard to eliminate all variables. At some point in the future I want to try 4 rings and see what happens. Also, right now I’m experimenting comparing oura to Dreem 2. That review will be coming up!
I just received my Oura ring . Have you done any comparisons to the fit bit? I currently wear both.
Hi! Thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment! I haven't done any comparisons to the Fitbit yet, but i'm tempted to pre-order the new one that's coming out. It's about as expensive as the Oura ring so i'm curious if they updated their hardware with better sleep capabilities. i'll keep you posted!
Katie Type A Love your videos by the way! I am tempted too. I will stay tuned ❤️
Is this the same gen? Another interesting thing about it, it detects illness before you feel anything. Plus it's more comfortable than smart watches and the battery life is really awesome! It tackles a more holistic and wellness approach compared to smart watches that tracks activity and fitness. You can actually protect its beauty without sacrificing biometrics and comfort with an OSleeve.
Hi, Katie I now have the Oura ring. We DM'd in the past. I know Oura says that which finger doesn't matter but do you think comparing ring on different fingers might have something to do with the discrepancies? Great video.
Bruce! So great to hear from you and happy to hear you got yours. how do you like it so far? i absolutely agree on wearing it on different hands may have caused some discrepancies and i tried to get that out early on in the video. ideally in a perfect experiment i would have 4 - two on one hand and two on the other but that would have been VERY expensive! but yes, this is definitely a factor to consider and i agree that my experiment is less than perfect, but maybe i'll switch the rings around (wear the new one on the right hand) and see if my results differ!
I haven't read all the comments so I don't know if this is already been suggested.
Could the discrepancy between the two rings be because your older ring has included Your daily habits into its algorithm?
My husband and I have the Oura rings and got them a little over two years ago. My rings battery started going down hill really quick so much that it wouldn't read my scores at night because the battery would die; this is with me charging it before bed. Keep in mind I keep my ring is on airplane mode except when its on the charger and I am syncing it. It has been inconsistent with charring and working for a while now. Now it's to the point where even if the battery is still decent when I wake up, it hasn't read my scores from the night before. This starting happening to husband also. His battery is still pretty strong so it makes no sense why the scores aren't being read. The solution they gave to my husband is a factory recent which did not work. Oura cannot answer any of my questions and has been a huge disappoint in customer service. They don't have solutions and are basically telling me that my ring is trash and I need a new one. They offer a $50 credit for a new one. After a lot of back and forth with Oura I assume that these devices have a two year life span and you shouldn't expect it to last longer than that and if it does you are lucky. We are both so disappointed, especially because we were part of the group that preordered and paid for the rings, fronted money to Oura when the next generation came out and waited 8 months to get our rings. We have recommended them to so many people and its such a bummer that they haven't lasted. When I first reached out they said my battery has gone bad and they were going to replace it under warranty. Then they realized I was a month over the 2 year warranty and they wouldn't budge. I like the device, but it is very expensive for a 2 year life span.
ahhh efffing genius video idea
ahh thanks so much!! next video idea: a ring on every finger! hahaha
The video is full of good info. I think it’d be even better If it included feedback from Oura. Maybe they have some useful insight?
You mentioned that they are the same size, have you tried to wear them on the same finger at the same time?
I haven't tried that but what i am thinking about doing is switching the rings for my next experiment (wear the old one on the left hand and new one on the right)!
@@katie_moore I think that would be great as well.
Do you think the discrepancy could be that the older ring's hardware has been updated to a more accurate hardware in the newer ring?
I believe it's the exact same hardware, but maybe! they were both on the same software version.
I really wonder what is causing the discrepancy in sleep stages between the two rings!
It SHOULDN'T be the software, as both rings should have the same version of the software running.
As the reference temperature for the ring is your average anyway, the offset between the two rings should not matter. The correlation between the two is still high and cannot explain the difference in REM time.
However, in general the fact that temperature and heart rate are average values over the whole night, it might well be that one of the rings is better at picking up changes of those quantities than the other, as it's the changes that are relevant for the estimation of sleep stages.
Did you have the rings on different hands? That might also explain the differenceand of course this will affect your activity scores.
At least for me, my left arm pits temperature is lower than my right, and I’m left handed.. idk why..
Did you swap fingers and compare data?
I didn't before making this video. However afterwards I did for a week or so and saw no noticeable difference in the data.
@@katie_moore maybe I missed it but are both rings using the same firmware? Sorry if that's too obvious.
My heart rate is rarely accurate. It can easily be 20 bpm off. Are you familiar with this?
Despite my many problems with the Oura ring… heart rate has been pretty accurate for me. Perhaps it’s too loose?
The need to do a cross-over test and swap rings between hands is the obvious shortcoming here, and might change your interpretations.
I see a few other people have commented on the same thing. Have you completed this testing?
Some of the things you label as "old vs new" could be "left vs right", and no the bias would not necessarily be constant.
Welcome to the wonderful world of trying to gather and analyse useful data!
Hmm, interesting video. My assumption is that the differences in the sleep stages might be due to your arms moving independently. I'm sure you know that no commercial grade sleep tracker can actually "measure" what sleep stage you're in (maybe Dreem can since it has electrodes?) since they can't measure your brain waves. It's best guess based on whatever proprietary algorithm the company developed to interpret all the sensor data and make a "best guess" at what sleep stage you're likely in.
Exactly. I think you're right. That's why I think nightly metrics have to be taken with a grain of salt. I still love the oura ring but no longer trust it to accurately identify my REM and deep sleep on a nightly basis. I still wear it to track sleep and wake times, total hours and temperature.
@@katie_moore My Oura ring is arriving today!
There's a few sleep experts who have said that sleep tracker data is still accurate relative to itself. Like when you compare your sleep data against itself. The absolute values are likely wrong, but the relative values are still relevant (i.e. I slept better today relative to yesterday etc).
Exactly. Glad it’s arriving today!! Have fun! Even if it’s inaccurate it’s very fun to track and learn from your data!
But now oura had a monthly subscription membership 😢
it probably would have been appropriate to follow instructions. Place ring on index finger. The other fingers a not as accurate.
I see you wear a Libre!
Interesting maybe you should trust your old one, after I left that comment, I found this, from 2 months ago, where a scientist compares the data from the Oura ring to an EEG - very interesting!! ua-cam.com/video/I2pm3bzCuCg/v-deo.html
So get two new rings and try them out.
Hi. Thank you for this video! I'm new to this channel and I've seen you for the first time. You are a beautiful woman, if I may say. Honestly think that. Your face radiates just such a wonderful beauty!
But as far as I can see from this video, you are worried a lot about your health. And I just ask myself if you are aware of your issue with your bodyweight? Maybe you are,if so, sorry for writing this. If not, just a short comment : you'd look even more beautiful if you'd simply just put on some kilograms, be the woman you deserve to be and enjoy some more food and other things than workout and healthobsession. and therefore reduce your mental worriedness about your health. Anorexia is a real big issue and I think that's point nr.1 that you got to be worried about and should try to fix, also when wanting to tell people about health in general. But,maybe that's all clear, and you tell in other videos. If so, sorry for this once again!
Blessings to you , beautiful woman.
So take the results with a grain of salt,,, But they still want $500AUD... You can buy a premium smart watch for the same price with the same features and more.. So I'm definitely not buying an Oura ring until their results are accurate and the premium price drops to something more affordable!!
that's totally fair and the reason I made this video! I want people to decide what's worth it for them. So far I haven't found a smartwatch that is more accurate than the oura ring for sleep.. However I'm very hopeful the Fitbit Sense could replace my Oura ring! Stay tuned for that review coming up!
@@katie_moore Yes I was hopeful on the Fitbit Sense aswell but there is a few reviews where they are saying that it's not completely accurate either unfortunately. I don't mind spending a few hundred dollars on something that has more things accurate than telling the time but when it's only the time that is accurate I honestly can't see the point. Here in Australia the Fitbit Sense has a $500 price tag. Reliability vs price just doesn't weigh up in my book.. Really hoping that something does come out soon that can say that it does what it claims. By the way,,, I hope you don't mind my saying but damn your a beautiful woman!! 😍👍👍