Will Smith is a confident, strong, and talented man. He has the same feelings and emotions as all of us, but once he showed that side, the world did that to him. Even his woman invalidated him.
I was having a tough conversation about life with my soon to be ex wife, I told her my fears for the future and how I really felt at that moment. She would later use all of this against me during an argument. Never cry or be vulnerable with your woman. Ever.
Negative, you should always be vulnerable with your lover but there should always be mutual respect in the play too. She disrespected you, she needs to relearn your trust which is okay. But there’s nothing wrong with being vulnerable to your lover.
I have been there,cried in front of here and later I found out that she told her brother about it and he called me "Pussy" behind my back...we are divorced now !
There's nothing wrong with being vulnerable with your lover you are not responsible for her actions and that saids a lot about her and she's not the person for you. You putting all woman on something one woman did isn't okay and is just toxic and unhealthy so I hope you heal and do better for yourself.
Good god, don’t follow any of these “no man, it was only one, continue to be vulnerable” non sense… go talk it out with friends if any over some beers better. Why are you all advising this? If it was a good thing the internet would be mute on this subject.
@@alejmc That the whole point of a relationship and if there's no emotional connection then better off not being together same with friends as well. Be vulnerable if there's a safe space when you are comfortable. If you don't want to be vulnerable then journal about it, talk to yourself, record yourself and do self journal or men should start creating safe spaces instead of continue this toxic "man up" "showing emotions is weak" nonsense when showing emotions is a part of being human.
This issue is why it’s incredibly important for men to have male spaces. The truth is a woman will judge you for moments of weakness and vulnerability. Whether these women want to admit it or not, they have an evolutionary imperative to seek out strong men. She’s looking to you for strength, so outward displays of weakness will begin to erode her respect for you. I’m not saying you can’t experience emotions as a man. You’re human, and there will be things that hurt you, upset you, maybe even make you cry. That’s perfectly normal. It’s part of the human condition. But you need to cultivate male relationships and spaces where you can safely express those feelings and work through them. Your woman is not your therapist.
Agreed you néed vanting space... Girls have been destroying thèse space slowly steadily with society approval... Man clubs (man louunge,boys club) art dying. Due To that, the mâles are always "in female" company To express their "émotions" Thus over course of times and actions... They see you be vulnérable on too many occasions
Thank you!! I’ve been telling men women aren’t wired to handle men the same way men handle women. Romantically, platonically, etc. It will be 110% guaranteed to be thrown back in your face.
Neither is another man. It's foolish too believe you shouldn't tell one but allow your greatest enemy all your secrets. The truth is as men we are own our biggest enemy, you're a natural rival and men must never be vulnerable in the presence of anyone besides themselves. That's why solitude is extremely important, you must recharge alone and let whatever you have out away from others, else you give your enemies ammunition against you. Love and brotherhood is a lie.
Had a girlfriend look at me like I was weak for crying when my Dad died. And I'm a whole ass woman 🤷🏾♀️ you can be vunerable with a real woman but real women are very very rare these days.
@@joannamonique707 They aren't rare they are everywhere but since there are guys like this acting as if they know what woman want and think when they really don't nor can listen to woman, so the ''real woman'' you are talking about just quit and are now focusing on themselves being picky about who they want to give themselves to.
@@ko6171 Yeah they do same with those "real woman" men also tend to speak of. Everyone has to do better man and woman because there are men who know who they wnat and their type but their type doesn't even want them and woman who choose those who choose them but don't choose those they actually want so everyone works the same waym
Today my female Coworker went to Facebook to vent about her life. If I did that. I would not look good. I have never cried in front of a woman and never will. The Last time I had a major cry in front of anyone was at my friend's Mothers Funeral as she was like a Second mother and Ex Boss. Loved to the core. I had a female friend state to me that I am a Mystery to her, because I don't open up to her. It made me happy to hear that from her.
I would get so fired probably if I were to vent the way women vent online on Facebook: blatant men hate, “why men ain’t shit”, “they are killing us everyday” (even though THEY KNOW men die in droves by comparison) and everything is our fault. I was watching a series, very good actually, “Shining Girls”, but the premise is based around some crimes against women… that’s definitely on purpose because if they were some crimes against men the series wouldn’t gain any traction at all. Men are so disposable that it would be “bah, dudes died… what else is there to see”
Exactly what happened to me many years before. I wasn't even crying or anything crazy like that, I just told her my concerns about health issues I was going through, and she just left and never explained herself. Guys never ever open up to the girls, that stunt will fuck you over. Yeah there is only 5% girls that find this ok but risk is too high. And don't trust her when she says that it is ok to open up, that is a trick they all play, maybe not on purpose but it is in female nature to do stuff like that.
My younger brother went through that too, I tried to warn him but he will listen to a girl he's known for 5 months before his family he's had his whole life.
Most men use women’s vulnerability against them. Another fact is: people use vulnerability against you sometimes so be careful who you’re vulnerable with. I don’t get this podcast because there’s no way in hell I’d be vulnerable to some of my boys the way I am with my wife.
I cried in front of an ex and she used that emotion against me later. They know they can hurt you when you show emotion. Never letting it happen again.
@@shivani815 Great question. Because at first it didn't appear that way. At first it seemed she really did care about who I was as a person and about how I felt. I was in love with her, but I know better now.
@@lukeweber2925 100%. When theres conflict between a guy and a woman, a guy's main "weapon" is more physical. His body (which is never ok), his finances, and his logic. Girls' main weapon is their WORDS. When a fight happens, logic flies out the window, and women know exactly what to say to break him down, especially if he was openly vulnerable. We can't hold emotion against women, women can.
@@shivani815 They're all that 'toxic'. It's just reality. Women say one thing and do another. Guarantee all the women in comments claiming they're unicorns and this doesn't apply to them have at some point taken a man's vulnerability and weaponized it against him. There's no way you can claim this isn't a thing when almost every man in existence has a personal story of it happening to them.
you're saying your woman right? you don't mean with strange woman or maybe you do. or you really did share with strangers rather than your women - that's what you mean!!! but every successful man has a strong and supportive woman behind. That means on all angle. You're 45 years old and still blaming women.Why don't you put your cap in front of you and get serious about your life? Do you know you're reflecting your experience that you have put here. You just told everyone that your woman used your vulnerability against you. No offense, this is not personal but you're reflecting what happened to you. Don't stick to victim mentality. Learn from stoics
I met a girl who always told me to show emotions etc, until she realized that I’m not a f***boy who has multiple options, when I finally released my feelings towards her, she immediately turn off and left me for dead. Never ever be vulnerable with women 🤝✌️
After 6 years of relationship with my gf i cried once because i was tired from work and didnt sleep for 2 days after travelling to her for 12 hours straight i cried a little after that she cheated and didn't want me anymore after 6 years together So yea don't be soft infront of females
@Patrick just focus on yourself brother, i hope my comment help the others, the funny thing that after all that she wanted to have sex and after we had sex she was disgusted why i didn't perfom well and i slept immediately, she was furios why i had to sleep want more toxicity? XD
Yet women go through this shit all the time over and over again, and we recover and open up as many times as we need to till we get it right. What you're saying here is that men are weak af if they can never even try to recover after some emotional pain or trauma. Being vulnerable even when you know it can be used against you shows you're confident, a capable adult and emotionally intelligent, so it is a strength.
@@Predictable1 yea boys do not take this advice period never take advice on dating from a female. every guy who got hurt deep its just from being what you saying. so if a guy cry he is a man if he is not crying he is a boy? no babe the moment a male cry infront of his GF or Wife he becomes a cuckold or get cheated on.
My girl literally just yelled at me after being emotional saying I can't handle the stress of the world... im now at the gym solving my own problems these dudes speak facts whether you like it or not
Personally i don't give a damn what anyone thinks, ill be vulnerable when i think its appropriate and if the people i thought i could trust use that against me then I'll cut them out of my life. Theres big difference between showing vulnerability and being a crybaby, No one will stop me from being myself
The men are 100% right. I'd go a step further to add you shouldn't even take advice from a woman because they think with emotions not with logic. Go to your guy friends for help if you need to.
I’d say that they are right in contrast with the modern man because we’re too soft now days. But ultimately they’re wrong. The wife’s job is to nurture and our job is to protect and provide. How can that happen if you show no emotion. Braveheart, Maximus, Jesus, Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, George Washington etc cry. Jack Dorsey, Joe Biden, Mark Zuckaburg, Ivan Drago, Roger Goodell etc never cry end of discussion
@@meriahs783 It's not the end of discussion because you said so. Those examples are not of real men. Except for Jesus, who didn't get angry, that's a misconception. Anybody who gets angry instead of acting rationally is not a real man.
@@ianx-cast6289 I’m partly joking about end of discussion which is why I included some of those characters. It’s just a little trash talk. But what are you talking about with anger? I don’t know that there’s never a time to be angry but I thought we were talking about crying
"I get more attracted when a guy is vulnerable" back pedaling so hard. Stop lying to save face and be honest. Every single relationship I've been in I cried ONE time while explaining a past trauma and their personality did a complete 180. Women hate emotion in men and they'll treat you like a child after you show it.
A girl I was talking to years back straight up told me “my bf got all emotional and I can’t really look at him the same. He’s all ‘Baby I love you don’t fight with me so much’ and he cried. Like a little kid.” She broke up with him. I felt bad for smashing. I used to be the guy in that situation. She got back with him, married him and has two kids with the dude. His name is Chad btw. He ain’t a “Chad” though. Lol just thought that was funny. Bottom line: Don’t believe anything a women says. Behaviors > words
They are right. I have seen women who decided to date other women instead of men often come back to men because they couldn’t handle dealing with the emotions of another woman. They craved that calming stoic demeanor to offset their emotions.
U mean they've been programmed all their life to cater for men in a patriarchy...and u haven't seen a lot of bisexual go back to men bc they couldn't handle women's emotions....as it's unlikely u would know anyone and even more so that they'd share this piece of private info...keep pulling bullshit out of ur arse till ur gutted...
It isn’t false. I have unfortunately witnessed this. It seems societally reinforced to keep emotions in which why some struggle with being open. Edit below: stop gaslighting others over their experiences. Exceptions prove the rule, they do not change said rule.
@@jtwillersonetti3522 saying men have calm stoic demeanor it's the most intruest thing to say even and if we are speaking reality Many many many woman are happier with other woman and the woman this person is speaking for aremost likely straight and were just exploring their options and sexuality to see what they really want and they found out it was men they wanted because many queen woman do NOT go back to men they are having the beta of both worlds.
I try to avoid being vulnerable with people in general. Because most people don’t know how to handle vulnerable man. I don’t want to have an arm around me when i’m sad telling me its going to be ok. I want people to stay the heck away from me when i’m sad so i can focus on letting it out before i pull my sh*t together again.
You never think it will be you until it is. I never thought me being vulnerable would be used as a bullet to hurt me but it was. I trusted this person more than anything and in what was a really low year for me it showed me how quick people can change. I supported her though everything and at the time I was stretched so thin and trying my best to support not only us but a family member of hers living with us due to mental issues…… everything was thrown back at me. I couldn’t be vulnerable it wasn’t what she wanted. I can honestly say that I will never be vulnerable with a woman I’m seeing ever again. I will be open about the relationship as a whole but my personal shit will be mine and mine alone to deal with.
As a man i know that showing our emotions can be a double edged sword. No woman will never be able to understand completely what it is for a man to be vulnerable. When a woman is vulnerable to a man we are honest and know we cant relate, but i know that i never held it agains them... women have always held it against us
I lost my mom due to covid and was about to cry in front of my girlfriend, she looked at me and asked " are you going to cry, I held it in, she kept calling me sensitive and tried to bully me untill I cut her off. Never ever ever again will I shed tears in front of a woman
I remembered crying about being almost homeless , life was in shambles to my ex and she just gave me a cold blank stare and didn’t console me at all … never again 3 years later own my own dump truck company and house now and pay therapist to only be vulnerable too I got to let it out somehow that’s who I am , just not to the future love of my life unfortunately.
Glad you're healing in a healthy way. 🙏🏾 Crazy I had a guy do d exact same thing to me when I was vulnerable...but I get it men go through it more which I agree with
Nearly all the men agree that the women will use your vulnerability against you later means that it's true. We're all speaking from experience. Men don't be stupid please. If you need a moment please take a drive, go sit somewhere by yourself or with a friend, release the pain and then go back home.
That my friend is shoving it all under the rug and not dealing with it, which will one day cause you to become incapable of emotional intimacy. Women who want life partners and fathers to their children, don’t want that. Speaking from experience as a wife and a mother….
@@sarwall_ it's funny how you said all of that without touching on the fact that women actually do use your vulnerability against you as man. Please address that and how you expect women to stop that toxic behaviour rather than how you think we should protect ourselves as men from such toxic behaviour. Till then I encourage all men to desist from showing weakness in any shape or form to their women. We've got fellow men for that.
@RONNIE 2Gunz ✝ 💊 ST. WICK dude you got some major troubles. I’ve been seeing you replying to everyone in this comment section. Not too late to turn around bud.
The guy is right . It's not socially acceptable for a man to be vulnerable. Men can only be vulnerable when they know nobody is watching them or when they're alone to themselves but with everyone else they cannot lower their guard.
Being vulnerable with your woman is like a football coach panicking on the sideline asking his players what they think he should do when he's supposed to be the one giving them proper guidance. If that happens too much those players will hit the transfer portal just like a woman will leave that man for a guy that actually has his $h!t together
I broke down in front of my mom once and cried. She made a joke about it a few years ago. Which made me so furious that I literally turn off all emotions near her. Because I'd rather be a heartless, emotionless piece of shit than to be made fun of for showing that I have issues I can't deal with. I let all my anger, frustration, and pain build up, then I beat the shit out of a punching bag until my knuckles bleed. Or, I turn to the bottle. But that rarely happens.
@@diegoadriandlc5273 I know. I'm slowly losing every single emotion I have. Which has made it easier to deal with stuff. But, destructive coping mechanisms have gotten more normal as a side effect.
This is why the rate for male suicide is so incredibly high. I feel sorry for these men... Whoever hurt them really did some damage. If a girl used your vulnerability against you than she's just a shit human and you should be glad she's gone from your life.
I am the oldest child, raised by a very emotional single mother. My wife learned quickly that I was no stoic, yet still married me. She is a very strong and independent person. Despite all that I broke my right foot a couple of years back and was in a cast for 6+ weeks. I couldn't drive, but was still able to work from home the whole time and walk around with a boot. The main inconvenience was that I couldn't help cart our kids around to their activities. For that whole time my wife's reaction consisted of maybe 2% sympathy and 98% annoyance and frustration at my unhelpfulness.
2:24, when the blonde is describing the best sex she ever “had” is after a man cries. When a man breaks down in front of a woman, at that exact moment, the woman feels above that man because he is more weak than her, she’s conquered him. So, much like a man who wants to have sex after winning a fist fight, women want the same. The difference is, after a guy cries, she can never respect him again. Boys/Men should listen to guys like Rollo and Myron.
It’s true. Gf of 1 year broke up with me because she no longer loved me romantically only platonically. Broke my heart completely but of course as a man I’m not suppose to cry.
1:17 All the women are like “NO No no, being vulnerable is so powerful, you’re human.” They’ll say one thing then do another guaranteed they’d leave the guy.
If she's the type that NEEDS to see her mans weakness, vulnerability, crying... She's the type that's looking for an opening to take her place as the leader in the relationship.
One minute in and I can already see clown to clown conversation. First of all, hormones are not stored in the DNA itself. This is basic high school education. Next, the woman in blonde hair said “men should be vulnerable and empathetic” which implies she generalizes all men to not show empathy, which is not true. And the way she delivered that statement makes me believe she hates all men, which is someone I would not even try to reason with. Ugh
The only time a guy can be vulnerable about love, missing their woman, being broken hearted, jealous, insecure is if they’re a rockstar singer singing a song.
The strong stoic man is a good father. When he teaches his kids he is showing love by making them strong. You need that strength to protect that beautiful world you speak of.
100000% facts I lost a girl I was about to get into a relationship with , I wondered why for a bit but then I came to the Realization that it was because I opened up. I'm scarred for life now .Protect yourselves gents
There's a limit to be vulnerable... The guy is too axiomatic ''its this or that'' but HE'S RIGHT. A man can only be vulnerable in deep situations where it's ''appropriate'' like Death or Failure than they have to pick themselves up. ... The vulnerable men cry at everything and they stay there cause they soft = losing attraction aura
They act surprised… heck, Joe Rogan, who has no skin in any of this, was interviewing this MMA woman who happened to see her -also MMA badass- husband getting beat on a match… the way when she talks about it with such disgust in the face, because he was covering his face in a “girly way” in her eyes when he was receiving punches and all went down the drain for him in that fight. She said right then and there, that this is not a man and definitely NOT HER man… and that’s for covering your face, imaging crying on the shoulder of a woman.
i actually feel like opening up and showing yourself to her makes it more real. if youre in a long term relationship, she should know that youre also human, it doesnt mean youre not masculine, but everyone has a vulnerable side, and true love is accepting that and being the safe space of each other. i know im masculine but i dont hide the fact that i also have a weak vulnerable side, i work my hardest to be strong but we all have weak sides, its more about knowing who to open up to rather than not showing emotions at all. but thats just my opinion.
Myron is definitely NOT stoic. Watch him scream and yell when things get heated in his podcast. A true stoic is stone cold calm and steady as a rock. ZERO emotional volatility of any kind.
@@truthseeker6377 You call yourself "Truth Seeker" yet you don't know the true meaning of words. Backstabbing is when you betray a friend; I'm not Myron's friend. Even if I was his friend, I'm stating a FACT about the meaning of a word which is not betrayal of any kind. Stoic is someone who controls their emotions at all times; Myron does tend to get animated, agitated and loud on his show which I've watched many times; that's the complete opposite of stoicism.
That’s true. People think “men never open up.” Yeah we do, just not with women. The closest we’ll come will probably be our mothers but that’s it. Guys do open up to their male friends.
I’ll be the man and as a father will guide my children to be strong and independent. I’ll let my wife be the soft one and comfort my children. Being a parent is a perfect balance when the father and mother both do their part.
You can teach them to be strong and independent while also not teaching them to bury their feelings and shove everything under the rug, and grow up to be completely incapable of emotional intimacy. Just speaking from experience from my spouse that grew up with two parents just like this. Parents need to be on the same page and parent together, not separately. That’s the whole point
@@sarwall_ Men have different ways of showing emotions for example boxing, MMA, Running Meditation or even crying by yourself crying in front of your Women and kids shows weakness which isn’t good
I agree with the guys on this one for the most part. Have a solid foundation of men friends that can be there. Don't bring it to a woman. Exactly what he said they will think you're soft and they want security over anything.
@J S I meant it coming from being "vulnerable ". Example: don't tell your girl anything you've done via mistake or when you were young cause she'll always bring it up and or use it against you. Don't speak on past relationships, unless asked, don't tell her of your previous one night stands if you've had any cause 9 times put of 10 shell bring it up in an argument or use it against you.
You can’t change what happened in the past 🤷🏿♂️ just cut em off that means that person ain’t loyal stop trying to push that on everybody not everyone moves that way…
Total bad faith from the ladies. He asked if they would rather their man lose his job or go on a vacation, and they argued that him losing his job wasn’t a big deal.
The only time is acceptable for a man to cry is: - The death of a loved one (family, pets, close friends, etc.) - Tears of happiness ( wedding, your kids going to college, the birth of your daughter) Anything else you girl will look at you as weak and effeminate.
You hit the nail right on the head. If you can’t be vulnerable around your woman, then she’s not for you a real woman who is deeply in love with you wants you to be vulnerable with her and she wouldn’t see you any other way it would increase the bond between you two and if you can’t be portable in front of your woman, and she definitely not for you point-blank that means onto the next and find that woman that’s truly for you
Don’t even cry to tell your mom or sister your problems. I’ve had my own mother and sister throw my problems in my face after a debate. Not even a argument! A simple debate! Never tell a woman nothing !
You have to control your emotions, if you cry it means that you let the emotion take over you. You have to feel the pain and use it as motivation. real men control their emotions, they don't suppress them or let them take over
There is a difference between receiving Wisdom from the woman you’re married to, to receiving advice from a woman you’re dating. If you are going to friends for advice or venting make sure they have a good track record. Being vulnerable and being weak can’t be comparable. They are total opposites. Being vulnerable means you are humble enough to realize you’re weak spots and are willing to receive a help or assistance in order to grow in that particular area.
@joesar5879 you must be dealing with some low character non moralistic females. I didn’t say women are more wise than men but I do believe both men and women can be a great duo so long they treat the relationship as a team effort. Being a team player in a relationship is being the person that may see a scenario from a different perspective that may help one of the two make a solid decision. That’s wisdom and knowledge and proper decision making. Again Idk what women you have experienced but I tell you what my woman does have wisdom and I am humble enough to hear out her ideas when I may struggle with a solution.
This just happened. She asked certain questions and it got to where I answered truthfully and wholeheartedly. All of a sudden the energy from her changed. It shifted and went dead. Now I'm thinking about the whole conversation and see where I made mistakes, by opening up. It's not worth it guys... They'll look at you very differently after. It's pretty fucked up. 🙏🏽 🤲🏽 💪🏽 🔇
Fungus Policy for children & women is best: "Feed them manuere (lies) & keep them in the dark (protect them from the evil games and schemes of the cruel, real world).
@@IndoPakCanvasIt’s funny from what I know a lot of guys in big night clubs in California and shit getting pussy without a table are just straight lying about who they are. Ik a regular who basically said that if you act confident and lie it’s super easy to just bed them and they never stop falling for it.
never show a women or anyone your weak spots because they might use that agaist you in the future (look at johnny depp), cuz you have no idea when people are gonna turn agaist you they just flip in a second no matter how close they are to you even if they were your best friends or family even.
Even if your wife/girlfriend "loves you" ... be vulnerable and cry about your problem enough and they'll be wanting you to call a therapist instead. He's 100% right, women aren't equipped to handle real man problems/issues and say they want men to cry but don't actually want it.
One time I was drunk and broke down cause I felt bad for mistreating her on FaceTime with my ex and cried and she had a weird look on her face. The next time she said “you’re always crying,” I was shocked. It was literally that one time over the years. She became colder as well and stand-offish. Almost anytime I was vulnerable around a girl it backfired for me very quickly no matter how they appeared or where they’re from. This seems one of the things that are super innate in biology sadly
The fellas here are missing the big picture of crying around women. They’re thinking crying over trauma or personal issues. That is weak, I agree. However they’re missing the crying over death, sad stories or truly horrible events. Anyone who cries because they had a hard day is fragile. As a man, you should be your woman’s rock. But you should let yourself be vulnerable when the time is right.
NEVERRRRRR show your vulnerability to a woman. Sure, in the moment she'll console you and give you all assurance you need. But she will never forget the time she watched a grown man cry. Man to man, cry in the woods or cry in the dirt.
Bro I agree I had a ex girlfriend who was dating a mutual friend and he cried in front of her and she flat out said this dude is a pussy crying on my shoulder what happens when I need to cry LoL so basically what he said is true.
i am usually a cold, emotionless person and my ex gf would get MAD at me for not being vulnerable with her. first off, doing that is uncomfortable and out of my character. secondly, if i was to do that, she'll just think i was weak. NEVER be vulnerable with a woman, guys, no matter what.
The issue is how much you do it. If someone you’re really close to or love dies, it’s perfectly natural to cry in that situation. What they’re talking about is constantly coming home to your girl, crying your eyes out, whining about how hard your life is, how you had a terrible day at work, etc. Women want to be supportive of their man, but because they’re the more emotional gender, they need the support of a strong, stoic man more, and they can’t get that out of an emotional person who’s dealing with his own problems.
It’s less about crying in and of itself and more about WHY a man is crying. If a man’s overall affect is “weak”, then him crying is going to appear unattractive…and it’s often a death sentence for the relationship if it’s over a “frivolous” reason. Additionally one can be sensitive and empathetic without appearing weak. The main thing to remember is that much of the advice given can’t be evaluated in a vacuum and often requires further context.
Is crying a weak trait ru not human do u not cry🤔the problem with our society we emphasize a man strength and laugh at his vulnerability and we as men created that now we blame women because they r following our lead
Wrong. Your beliving in female propaganda that they believe because no one is willing to tell a woman no in modern society. Go be weak infront of women and get your heart smashed like an accordion a few more times
My girlfriend was saying the same thing until I finally cried to her then soon as we argued i was weak in the cryin was to much never believe what they say DONT BE VULNERABLE!
i disagree with these guys. i agree with the 2 girls. as a woman, i find it powerful when a man opens up his emotions to you. i would want to comfort and hug a man while he is crying. i would not leave the relationship with him just for crying, that’s such a stupid fucking reason to break up with someone. that’s not being weak. men crying is actually strong. because men are kind of taught to bottle up their emotions and be strong because “boys don’t cry”. well guess what. men are still human. it is 100% okay for men to cry. i know some men might be scared to open up to their loved one, but if that person ends the relationship because of it, then they weren’t the right one for you. date somebody who actually cares about you having emotions and doesn’t shame you for it
If I ever show vulnerability to a woman, it will be towards a woman I'm not attracted to nor in a relationship with. There are decent female friends out there. But DO NOT show that in front of a girl you're interested in romantically, it tends to be a bust.
Showing emotion to your girl is like exposing your Achilles heel… once you’ve opened up and shown your weaknesses they won’t forget…we have enough evidence that no matter how pretty or nice a female is or comes off they can be deceitful and vengeful…protect yourself stay stoic and stay safe.
@@TopFlightSecurity415 nice try. I am a married woman, so I have some experience on the topic. Many men wont even open up with many of their close friends, there needs to be some kind of emotional outlet for men. The suicide rate is an absolute travesty.
As a general rule yes men have to be strong leaders, it's why we're logical so we can provide solutions and apply tactical steps to keep going. You have to get to know your woman well so you know when to show some emotion so she can see you are not heartless and capable of cruelty/sociopathy but always with restraint bc you have to control and contain your emotions on demand to make decisions and perform when it comes to protection and provision.
Why we need more spaces for just men. Women don’t understand our problems and taking shit out with men that have gone through the same shit helps more than any woman telling you to be more vulnerable….
Men shouldn’t front that something’s not bothering them when it is. Especially if your woman asks about it. Whether it’s work, family/friends relationships, or whatever, being open/vulnerable in that way is healthy BUT men should avoid being emotional at all cost. And whenever there is a problem, they should confide in their friends and try to fix the issue first. The last resort should be asking your girl for answers or support. It sucks that’s how it is but it’s the cold reality.
Will smith is a great example of why you should NEVER be too vulearable
Exactly. Opening up is such a scam. It toxifies masculinity and makes you poor.
You should never be vulnerable at all at the first place.
Will Smith is a confident, strong, and talented man. He has the same feelings and emotions as all of us, but once he showed that side, the world did that to him. Even his woman invalidated him.
Exactly
Yoooo I’m dead
Happened to me recently. Vulnerability is Kryptonite to a Woman's attraction for you. They are ruthless!
I was having a tough conversation about life with my soon to be ex wife, I told her my fears for the future and how I really felt at that moment. She would later use all of this against me during an argument. Never cry or be vulnerable with your woman. Ever.
Negative, you should always be vulnerable with your lover but there should always be mutual respect in the play too. She disrespected you, she needs to relearn your trust which is okay. But there’s nothing wrong with being vulnerable to your lover.
I have been there,cried in front of here and later I found out that she told her brother about it and he called me "Pussy" behind my back...we are divorced now !
There's nothing wrong with being vulnerable with your lover you are not responsible for her actions and that saids a lot about her and she's not the person for you. You putting all woman on something one woman did isn't okay and is just toxic and unhealthy so I hope you heal and do better for yourself.
Good god, don’t follow any of these “no man, it was only one, continue to be vulnerable” non sense… go talk it out with friends if any over some beers better.
Why are you all advising this? If it was a good thing the internet would be mute on this subject.
@@alejmc That the whole point of a relationship and if there's no emotional connection then better off not being together same with friends as well. Be vulnerable if there's a safe space when you are comfortable. If you don't want to be vulnerable then journal about it, talk to yourself, record yourself and do self journal or men should start creating safe spaces instead of continue this toxic "man up" "showing emotions is weak" nonsense when showing emotions is a part of being human.
This two guys are absolutely correct! Women say one thing and want another!
They’re strange they give you their number then change their mind or block after when they agreed to meet
This issue is why it’s incredibly important for men to have male spaces. The truth is a woman will judge you for moments of weakness and vulnerability. Whether these women want to admit it or not, they have an evolutionary imperative to seek out strong men. She’s looking to you for strength, so outward displays of weakness will begin to erode her respect for you. I’m not saying you can’t experience emotions as a man. You’re human, and there will be things that hurt you, upset you, maybe even make you cry. That’s perfectly normal. It’s part of the human condition. But you need to cultivate male relationships and spaces where you can safely express those feelings and work through them. Your woman is not your therapist.
Agreed you néed vanting space... Girls have been destroying thèse space slowly steadily with society approval... Man clubs (man louunge,boys club) art dying. Due To that, the mâles are always "in female" company To express their "émotions" Thus over course of times and actions... They see you be vulnérable on too many occasions
Amen!!
Solid words.
Thank you!! I’ve been telling men women aren’t wired to handle men the same way men handle women. Romantically, platonically, etc.
It will be 110% guaranteed to be thrown back in your face.
Neither is another man. It's foolish too believe you shouldn't tell one but allow your greatest enemy all your secrets. The truth is as men we are own our biggest enemy, you're a natural rival and men must never be vulnerable in the presence of anyone besides themselves. That's why solitude is extremely important, you must recharge alone and let whatever you have out away from others, else you give your enemies ammunition against you. Love and brotherhood is a lie.
These 2 guys are 100% correct. The only time you cry is when it's appropriate. The passing of loved ones, tragic events, or tears of joy.
Had a girlfriend look at me like I was weak for crying when my Dad died. And I'm a whole ass woman 🤷🏾♀️ you can be vunerable with a real woman but real women are very very rare these days.
@@joannamonique707 They aren't rare they are everywhere but since there are guys like this acting as if they know what woman want and think when they really don't nor can listen to woman, so the ''real woman'' you are talking about just quit and are now focusing on themselves being picky about who they want to give themselves to.
@@0fficialselena__90 yeah there's dudes you see never complain about getting women. That's cause they know what they want and what they can get.
@@ko6171 Yeah they do same with those "real woman" men also tend to speak of. Everyone has to do better man and woman because there are men who know who they wnat and their type but their type doesn't even want them and woman who choose those who choose them but don't choose those they actually want so everyone works the same waym
@@joannamonique707 I think the person you were with was just a horrible human being tbh. What she did was not normal.
Today my female Coworker went to Facebook to vent about her life. If I did that. I would not look good. I have never cried in front of a woman and never will. The Last time I had a major cry in front of anyone was at my friend's Mothers Funeral as she was like a Second mother and Ex Boss. Loved to the core. I had a female friend state to me that I am a Mystery to her, because I don't open up to her. It made me happy to hear that from her.
I would get so fired probably if I were to vent the way women vent online on Facebook: blatant men hate, “why men ain’t shit”, “they are killing us everyday” (even though THEY KNOW men die in droves by comparison) and everything is our fault.
I was watching a series, very good actually, “Shining Girls”, but the premise is based around some crimes against women… that’s definitely on purpose because if they were some crimes against men the series wouldn’t gain any traction at all. Men are so disposable that it would be “bah, dudes died… what else is there to see”
Good ! Keep being a mystery ...as soon as they have you figured out they will get bored
@@TopFlightSecurity415Lol 😂
Those guys are 1000 percent right
You can NOT show any weakness.
I just went thru this, the woman said it was ok left me 1 week later
You were just with the wrong person that didn’t deserve your trust. Doesnt mean they all are like that bro.
Exactly what happened to me many years before. I wasn't even crying or anything crazy like that, I just told her my concerns about health issues I was going through, and she just left and never explained herself.
Guys never ever open up to the girls, that stunt will fuck you over. Yeah there is only 5% girls that find this ok but risk is too high. And don't trust her when she says that it is ok to open up, that is a trick they all play, maybe not on purpose but it is in female nature to do stuff like that.
@@XVSting they are ALL like that bro
Maybe it was ur personality 💀💀💀❌
My younger brother went through that too, I tried to warn him but he will listen to a girl he's known for 5 months before his family he's had his whole life.
Most women will eventually use your vulnerability against you.
Facts
Faaaaacts
Most men use women’s vulnerability against them. Another fact is: people use vulnerability against you sometimes so be careful who you’re vulnerable with. I don’t get this podcast because there’s no way in hell I’d be vulnerable to some of my boys the way I am with my wife.
You’re hurt
@Cheese Doodle nyggah lol that brother was emotional incoherent chatter. What do you mean I don’t understand the question
I cried in front of an ex and she used that emotion against me later. They know they can hurt you when you show emotion. Never letting it happen again.
why would you choose to be in a relationship with someone that toxic?
@@shivani815 Great question. Because at first it didn't appear that way. At first it seemed she really did care about who I was as a person and about how I felt. I was in love with her, but I know better now.
@@lukeweber2925 100%. When theres conflict between a guy and a woman, a guy's main "weapon" is more physical. His body (which is never ok), his finances, and his logic. Girls' main weapon is their WORDS. When a fight happens, logic flies out the window, and women know exactly what to say to break him down, especially if he was openly vulnerable. We can't hold emotion against women, women can.
That's why they want us to be vulnerable
@@shivani815 They're all that 'toxic'. It's just reality. Women say one thing and do another. Guarantee all the women in comments claiming they're unicorns and this doesn't apply to them have at some point taken a man's vulnerability and weaponized it against him. There's no way you can claim this isn't a thing when almost every man in existence has a personal story of it happening to them.
Any vulnerability shared with your woman will ultimately be used against you later in the relationship.
you're saying your woman right? you don't mean with strange woman or maybe you do. or you really did share with strangers rather than your women - that's what you mean!!! but every successful man has a strong and supportive woman behind. That means on all angle. You're 45 years old and still blaming women.Why don't you put your cap in front of you and get serious about your life? Do you know you're reflecting your experience that you have put here. You just told everyone that your woman used your vulnerability against you. No offense, this is not personal but you're reflecting what happened to you. Don't stick to victim mentality. Learn from stoics
@@user-nu3qp5oz1l yes, sharing from experience so others can learn and/or adapt. 🤷🏽♂️
Def not a victim mentality over here 😉
Then choose your women more wisely.
That could be with anyone…
Absolutely
I met a girl who always told me to show emotions etc, until she realized that I’m not a f***boy who has multiple options, when I finally released my feelings towards her, she immediately turn off and left me for dead. Never ever be vulnerable with women 🤝✌️
Vulnerability and Weaknesses is bad, Never do it. People will use it against you.
100% maybe not at that moment but will use it agaist you in the future.
Even homies and family.
Then you people are weak
@moonAwake247 no. it's human nature
I absolutely agree with you
"Sounds great on paper but thats not reality work" exactlyyyy
After 6 years of relationship with my gf i cried once because i was tired from work and didnt sleep for 2 days after travelling to her for 12 hours straight i cried a little after that she cheated and didn't want me anymore after 6 years together
So yea don't be soft infront of females
@Patrick just focus on yourself brother, i hope my comment help the others,
the funny thing that after all that she wanted to have sex and after we had sex she was disgusted why i didn't perfom well and i slept immediately, she was furios why i had to sleep
want more toxicity? XD
I can relate to this
Same story reason different
Yet women go through this shit all the time over and over again, and we recover and open up as many times as we need to till we get it right. What you're saying here is that men are weak af if they can never even try to recover after some emotional pain or trauma.
Being vulnerable even when you know it can be used against you shows you're confident, a capable adult and emotionally intelligent, so it is a strength.
@@Predictable1 yea boys do not take this advice period
never take advice on dating from a female.
every guy who got hurt deep its just from being what you saying.
so if a guy cry he is a man if he is not crying he is a boy?
no babe the moment a male cry infront of his GF or Wife he becomes a cuckold or get cheated on.
My girl literally just yelled at me after being emotional saying I can't handle the stress of the world... im now at the gym solving my own problems these dudes speak facts whether you like it or not
Ditch her
Personally i don't give a damn what anyone thinks, ill be vulnerable when i think its appropriate and if the people i thought i could trust use that against me then I'll cut them out of my life. Theres big difference between showing vulnerability and being a crybaby, No one will stop me from being myself
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The men are 100% right. I'd go a step further to add you shouldn't even take advice from a woman because they think with emotions not with logic. Go to your guy friends for help if you need to.
I’d say that they are right in contrast with the modern man because we’re too soft now days. But ultimately they’re wrong. The wife’s job is to nurture and our job is to protect and provide. How can that happen if you show no emotion. Braveheart, Maximus, Jesus, Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, George Washington etc cry. Jack Dorsey, Joe Biden, Mark Zuckaburg, Ivan Drago, Roger Goodell etc never cry end of discussion
@@meriahs783 It's not the end of discussion because you said so. Those examples are not of real men. Except for Jesus, who didn't get angry, that's a misconception. Anybody who gets angry instead of acting rationally is not a real man.
@@ianx-cast6289 I’m partly joking about end of discussion which is why I included some of those characters. It’s just a little trash talk. But what are you talking about with anger? I don’t know that there’s never a time to be angry but I thought we were talking about crying
@@meriahs783 You're right, I misread. Crying is still a weakness, in my opinion. I'm guilty of sometimes crying but I don't look at it as ok.
@@ianx-cast6289 why is it a weakness tho? Obviously we both disagree with the women in the video but why do you think crying is a weakness at all?
"I get more attracted when a guy is vulnerable" back pedaling so hard. Stop lying to save face and be honest. Every single relationship I've been in I cried ONE time while explaining a past trauma and their personality did a complete 180. Women hate emotion in men and they'll treat you like a child after you show it.
A girl I was talking to years back straight up told me “my bf got all emotional and I can’t really look at him the same. He’s all ‘Baby I love you don’t fight with me so much’ and he cried. Like a little kid.”
She broke up with him. I felt bad for smashing. I used to be the guy in that situation. She got back with him, married him and has two kids with the dude. His name is Chad btw. He ain’t a “Chad” though. Lol just thought that was funny.
Bottom line: Don’t believe anything a women says. Behaviors > words
Awalt.
She’s not a good person
They are right. I have seen women who decided to date other women instead of men often come back to men because they couldn’t handle dealing with the emotions of another woman. They craved that calming stoic demeanor to offset their emotions.
U mean they've been programmed all their life to cater for men in a patriarchy...and u haven't seen a lot of bisexual go back to men bc they couldn't handle women's emotions....as it's unlikely u would know anyone and even more so that they'd share this piece of private info...keep pulling bullshit out of ur arse till ur gutted...
That's false!
Yeah imagine being lesbian ugh that's awful
It isn’t false. I have unfortunately witnessed this. It seems societally reinforced to keep emotions in which why some struggle with being open. Edit below: stop gaslighting others over their experiences. Exceptions prove the rule, they do not change said rule.
@@jtwillersonetti3522 saying men have calm stoic demeanor it's the most intruest thing to say even and if we are speaking reality Many many many woman are happier with other woman and the woman this person is speaking for aremost likely straight and were just exploring their options and sexuality to see what they really want and they found out it was men they wanted because many queen woman do NOT go back to men they are having the beta of both worlds.
I try to avoid being vulnerable with people in general. Because most people don’t know how to handle vulnerable man. I don’t want to have an arm around me when i’m sad telling me its going to be ok. I want people to stay the heck away from me when i’m sad so i can focus on letting it out before i pull my sh*t together again.
You never think it will be you until it is. I never thought me being vulnerable would be used as a bullet to hurt me but it was. I trusted this person more than anything and in what was a really low year for me it showed me how quick people can change. I supported her though everything and at the time I was stretched so thin and trying my best to support not only us but a family member of hers living with us due to mental issues…… everything was thrown back at me. I couldn’t be vulnerable it wasn’t what she wanted. I can honestly say that I will never be vulnerable with a woman I’m seeing ever again. I will be open about the relationship as a whole but my personal shit will be mine and mine alone to deal with.
As a man i know that showing our emotions can be a double edged sword. No woman will never be able to understand completely what it is for a man to be vulnerable. When a woman is vulnerable to a man we are honest and know we cant relate, but i know that i never held it agains them... women have always held it against us
@Patrick 😂😂😂 Good one
@@kareemmendoza5004 fuk this.. I dont..and I'm never emotionally down around a woman.. if she tries to bring me down.. cut off
It's not a double-edged sword, it's a malfunctioning pistol that shoots you in the f****** dick
I lost my mom due to covid and was about to cry in front of my girlfriend, she looked at me and asked " are you going to cry, I held it in, she kept calling me sensitive and tried to bully me untill I cut her off.
Never ever ever again will I shed tears in front of a woman
Damn man that sucks.. I wish you the best in life and I'm sorry that your mum passed
@@Maki-qw8he much appreciated 🙏
@Rick Legendary dude, i know that what the guys said is 1000 per true. But you have every right to cry for your loss. Much respect ✊
@@rocklee8865 thank you
Ur mom is smiling down to u
Love u bro, stay awesome! ❤️
Every man learns this lesson eventually. Usually the hard way.
I don't particularly even want to share my feelings, let alone be vulnerable. It's a mistake.
These men are speaking facts
I never cry in front of my girl and never complain to her.
I remembered crying about being almost homeless , life was in shambles to my ex and she just gave me a cold blank stare and didn’t console me at all … never again 3 years later own my own dump truck company and house now and pay therapist to only be vulnerable too I got to let it out somehow that’s who I am , just not to the future love of my life unfortunately.
Glad you're healing in a healthy way. 🙏🏾 Crazy I had a guy do d exact same thing to me when I was vulnerable...but I get it men go through it more which I agree with
Nearly all the men agree that the women will use your vulnerability against you later means that it's true. We're all speaking from experience.
Men don't be stupid please. If you need a moment please take a drive, go sit somewhere by yourself or with a friend, release the pain and then go back home.
That my friend is shoving it all under the rug and not dealing with it, which will one day cause you to become incapable of emotional intimacy. Women who want life partners and fathers to their children, don’t want that. Speaking from experience as a wife and a mother….
@@sarwall_ it's funny how you said all of that without touching on the fact that women actually do use your vulnerability against you as man. Please address that and how you expect women to stop that toxic behaviour rather than how you think we should protect ourselves as men from such toxic behaviour. Till then I encourage all men to desist from showing weakness in any shape or form to their women. We've got fellow men for that.
@@sarwall_
Subconsciously no, we don’t and you know that.
@@jelayachyanne3509 exactly
Facts.. never let her know how much you hurt..get you a side chic
There's a big difference between vulnerability and weakness. Being vulnerable can be good, being weak is always bad.
We find some truth 🙏🏽
interesting, whats the difference? can you explain?
@RONNIE 2Gunz ✝ 💊 ST. WICK dude you got some major troubles. I’ve been seeing you replying to everyone in this comment section. Not too late to turn around bud.
Both are bad unless you are Rich and have options. You show Vulnerability or Weakness they will use it against you.
A vulnerability is a type of weakness. A subset of weakness if you will.
"I get more attracted when guys cry"
Watch what they do not what they say. You can watch the desire leave their eyes in real time.
The guy is right . It's not socially acceptable for a man to be vulnerable. Men can only be vulnerable when they know nobody is watching them or when they're alone to themselves but with everyone else they cannot lower their guard.
These guys are absolutely correct! I don't understand why the mainstream media doesn't want to admit this but women and men are just different.
"Do you not crave the support of a woman?"
With all my fucking heart. But I can't take that chance.
Being vulnerable with your woman is like a football coach panicking on the sideline asking his players what they think he should do when he's supposed to be the one giving them proper guidance. If that happens too much those players will hit the transfer portal just like a woman will leave that man for a guy that actually has his $h!t together
It is true i was in a women subreddit disscussing about men.
Many told they are not interested in problem of a man.
I broke down in front of my mom once and cried. She made a joke about it a few years ago. Which made me so furious that I literally turn off all emotions near her. Because I'd rather be a heartless, emotionless piece of shit than to be made fun of for showing that I have issues I can't deal with.
I let all my anger, frustration, and pain build up, then I beat the shit out of a punching bag until my knuckles bleed. Or, I turn to the bottle. But that rarely happens.
Wow, that's sad. I used to think the only woman a man may reveal his vulnerable side to is his mom, but it seems like even that is not always true.
Thats pretty bad, you are doing the opposite of been Strong. You can't take people making fun of you and for that reason you are gonna hurt yourself.
That is not cool. Your mom and grandma should be the only ones you do that with if ever. Never your woman though
@@diegoadriandlc5273 I know. I'm slowly losing every single emotion I have. Which has made it easier to deal with stuff. But, destructive coping mechanisms have gotten more normal as a side effect.
@@iancavon7125 no woman, and I mean no woman wants that, yes even your own mother will be repulsed.
The man speaks truth. The women make valid points. This talk should be taken multi dimensionally and with grains of salt.
This is why the rate for male suicide is so incredibly high. I feel sorry for these men... Whoever hurt them really did some damage.
If a girl used your vulnerability against you than she's just a shit human and you should be glad she's gone from your life.
It's high because no one cares about the plight of men in general not because of vulnerability.
@@classicslayer456 Suicidal men wanna cry. Crying makes things better. But they can't because men can't show vulnerability.
Stop pretending like you care
@@calebcooper5922 exactly. just like the hosts say, "stop the cap"
@@calebcooper5922
Yeah, they’re just so fake it makes me cringe
Myron face deciphering this womanize is hilarious
The lady in blue didn't speak again after that first 2 minutes.
I am the oldest child, raised by a very emotional single mother. My wife learned quickly that I was no stoic, yet still married me. She is a very strong and independent person. Despite all that I broke my right foot a couple of years back and was in a cast for 6+ weeks. I couldn't drive, but was still able to work from home the whole time and walk around with a boot. The main inconvenience was that I couldn't help cart our kids around to their activities. For that whole time my wife's reaction consisted of maybe 2% sympathy and 98% annoyance and frustration at my unhelpfulness.
pain
It’s not even the word “most” it’s literally every woman I’ve Eva met
2:24, when the blonde is describing the best sex she ever “had” is after a man cries. When a man breaks down in front of a woman, at that exact moment, the woman feels above that man because he is more weak than her, she’s conquered him. So, much like a man who wants to have sex after winning a fist fight, women want the same. The difference is, after a guy cries, she can never respect him again. Boys/Men should listen to guys like Rollo and Myron.
Nah you’re clueless sex qas best because it was passionate crying is form of passion you’re hust insecure ncel
@@Breakfastststst Your comment is not even a formed sentence, so I’m not really sure how to respond. On a separate note, I did get laid twice today.
Personally I cry alone.
It’s true. Gf of 1 year broke up with me because she no longer loved me romantically only platonically. Broke my heart completely but of course as a man I’m not suppose to cry.
1:17 All the women are like “NO No no, being vulnerable is so powerful, you’re human.”
They’ll say one thing then do another guaranteed they’d leave the guy.
If she's the type that NEEDS to see her mans weakness, vulnerability, crying...
She's the type that's looking for an opening to take her place as the leader in the relationship.
That what they all say. Not every woman but most of them tell me that about other men. They loose faith in their men.
🤷🏽♂️ I’ve always followed their actions more. Women, generally speaking, tend to be convert talkers
One minute in and I can already see clown to clown conversation.
First of all, hormones are not stored in the DNA itself. This is basic high school education.
Next, the woman in blonde hair said “men should be vulnerable and empathetic” which implies she generalizes all men to not show empathy, which is not true. And the way she delivered that statement makes me believe she hates all men, which is someone I would not even try to reason with.
Ugh
The only time a guy can be vulnerable about love, missing their woman, being broken hearted, jealous, insecure is if they’re a rockstar singer singing a song.
Women need to stop lying about this.
The strong stoic man is a good father. When he teaches his kids he is showing love by making them strong. You need that strength to protect that beautiful world you speak of.
100000% facts I lost a girl I was about to get into a relationship with , I wondered why for a bit but then I came to the Realization that it was because I opened up. I'm scarred for life now .Protect yourselves gents
Same here! I'm still traumatized from being vulnerable with them and it's been 5 years.
One day you'll find a woman who will love you enough to never judge you. 🙏🏼
@@jimmymagic7686 Move on my brother. A real woman is difficult to find but not impossible. Good luck
@@fuqwhatyouthink4465 That woman is called a mom.
@@silentvoicespodcast If you're lucky.
There's a limit to be vulnerable... The guy is too axiomatic ''its this or that'' but HE'S RIGHT. A man can only be vulnerable in deep situations where it's ''appropriate'' like Death or Failure than they have to pick themselves up. ... The vulnerable men cry at everything and they stay there cause they soft = losing attraction aura
They act surprised… heck, Joe Rogan, who has no skin in any of this, was interviewing this MMA woman who happened to see her -also MMA badass- husband getting beat on a match… the way when she talks about it with such disgust in the face, because he was covering his face in a “girly way” in her eyes when he was receiving punches and all went down the drain for him in that fight.
She said right then and there, that this is not a man and definitely NOT HER man… and that’s for covering your face, imaging crying on the shoulder of a woman.
OK, then why do we want these women? If we gotta be a man, they can be in the kitchen if that's all it's worth
The only time men can cry in front of a woman is when she really loves him.
These boys are correct 101 percent bro
i actually feel like opening up and showing yourself to her makes it more real. if youre in a long term relationship, she should know that youre also human, it doesnt mean youre not masculine, but everyone has a vulnerable side, and true love is accepting that and being the safe space of each other. i know im masculine but i dont hide the fact that i also have a weak vulnerable side, i work my hardest to be strong but we all have weak sides, its more about knowing who to open up to rather than not showing emotions at all. but thats just my opinion.
Myron is definitely NOT stoic. Watch him scream and yell when things get heated in his podcast. A true stoic is stone cold calm and steady as a rock. ZERO emotional volatility of any kind.
@neal cassady Thank you. The emotionality of simping for another man can hamper a dude's reading skills.
@@chunkwobbler2544 hmmmm, so simping as opposed to you what, hating and backstabbing?
@Big Al Myron is famous for freaking out and kicking out the guests. doesn't mean the advice on this particular clip is bad though
@@truthseeker6377 You call yourself "Truth Seeker" yet you don't know the true meaning of words. Backstabbing is when you betray a friend; I'm not Myron's friend. Even if I was his friend, I'm stating a FACT about the meaning of a word which is not betrayal of any kind. Stoic is someone who controls their emotions at all times; Myron does tend to get animated, agitated and loud on his show which I've watched many times; that's the complete opposite of stoicism.
Griey
It's funny how women think men don't share vulnerabilities with each other. Your boys will have your back. If they don't they're not your friend.
That’s true. People think “men never open up.” Yeah we do, just not with women. The closest we’ll come will probably be our mothers but that’s it. Guys do open up to their male friends.
I wanna be open but I don’t wanna lose the people I love . I don’t want them to lose feelings for me because I cried . I rather cry in silence .
You just haven’t met the right one yet my guy, trust me
The people you love are trash if you feel the need to bottle your emotions up around them. Find people who appreciate you and validate your emotions.
@@ThatsShowbizBabyyexactly 😂😂😂😂
I’ll be the man and as a father will guide my children to be strong and independent. I’ll let my wife be the soft one and comfort my children. Being a parent is a perfect balance when the father and mother both do their part.
You can teach them to be strong and independent while also not teaching them to bury their feelings and shove everything under the rug, and grow up to be completely incapable of emotional intimacy. Just speaking from experience from my spouse that grew up with two parents just like this. Parents need to be on the same page and parent together, not separately. That’s the whole point
couldn't have said it better myself 👍
@@sarwall_ Men have different ways of showing emotions for example boxing, MMA, Running Meditation or even crying by yourself crying in front of your Women and kids shows weakness which isn’t good
I agree with the guys on this one for the most part. Have a solid foundation of men friends that can be there. Don't bring it to a woman. Exactly what he said they will think you're soft and they want security over anything.
Anything and everything you say will be used against you. The past is the past. Never speak on it
@J S I meant it coming from being "vulnerable ".
Example: don't tell your girl anything you've done via mistake or when you were young cause she'll always bring it up and or use it against you.
Don't speak on past relationships, unless asked, don't tell her of your previous one night stands if you've had any cause 9 times put of 10 shell bring it up in an argument or use it against you.
You can’t change what happened in the past 🤷🏿♂️ just cut em off that means that person ain’t loyal stop trying to push that on everybody not everyone moves that way…
“That sounds great on paper” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that got me.
Total bad faith from the ladies. He asked if they would rather their man lose his job or go on a vacation, and they argued that him losing his job wasn’t a big deal.
As rough and harsh as it sounds. He's right. Men gotta be strong.
No they don’t
@@kiro6188 yes they have to be strong. It is nature
@@ahacks7692 literally it’s a human nature not a gender nature silly
@@kiro6188 nope its male nature.
yes you do but dont be afraid to show vulnerability, thats why the suicide rate in men is so high
These men are 💯 correct
The only time is acceptable for a man to cry is:
- The death of a loved one (family, pets, close friends, etc.)
- Tears of happiness ( wedding, your kids going to college, the birth of your daughter)
Anything else you girl will look at you as weak and effeminate.
You hit the nail right on the head. If you can’t be vulnerable around your woman, then she’s not for you a real woman who is deeply in love with you wants you to be vulnerable with her and she wouldn’t see you any other way it would increase the bond between you two and if you can’t be portable in front of your woman, and she definitely not for you point-blank that means onto the next and find that woman that’s truly for you
Bs, women become revolted when you cry. Women will tell you that by making fun of their boyfriends who did in the past.
Don’t even cry to tell your mom or sister your problems. I’ve had my own mother and sister throw my problems in my face after a debate. Not even a argument! A simple debate! Never tell a woman nothing !
You have to control your emotions, if you cry it means that you let the emotion take over you. You have to feel the pain and use it as motivation. real men control their emotions, they don't suppress them or let them take over
U can still cry because there’s no point in controlling crying it’s more healthy if what u do with the problem that made u cry that matters
But your still a boy with no experience lol 😆
There is a difference between receiving Wisdom from the woman you’re married to, to receiving advice from a woman you’re dating. If you are going to friends for advice or venting make sure they have a good track record. Being vulnerable and being weak can’t be comparable. They are total opposites. Being vulnerable means you are humble enough to realize you’re weak spots and are willing to receive a help or assistance in order to grow in that particular area.
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It is bothe the same thing
You've just bought into the prapaganda.
Being vulnerable and being weak can’t be comparable. They are total opposites.
This is true. However, vulnerability is viewed as a weakness.
@joesar5879 you must be dealing with some low character non moralistic females. I didn’t say women are more wise than men but I do believe both men and women can be a great duo so long they treat the relationship as a team effort. Being a team player in a relationship is being the person that may see a scenario from a different perspective that may help one of the two make a solid decision. That’s wisdom and knowledge and proper decision making. Again Idk what women you have experienced but I tell you what my woman does have wisdom and I am humble enough to hear out her ideas when I may struggle with a solution.
This just happened. She asked certain questions and it got to where I answered truthfully and wholeheartedly. All of a sudden the energy from her changed. It shifted and went dead. Now I'm thinking about the whole conversation and see where I made mistakes, by opening up. It's not worth it guys... They'll look at you very differently after. It's pretty fucked up. 🙏🏽 🤲🏽 💪🏽 🔇
Fungus Policy for children & women is best:
"Feed them manuere (lies) & keep them in the dark (protect them from the evil games and schemes of the cruel, real world).
@@IndoPakCanvasIt’s funny from what I know a lot of guys in big night clubs in California and shit getting pussy without a table are just straight lying about who they are. Ik a regular who basically said that if you act confident and lie it’s super easy to just bed them and they never stop falling for it.
@@IndoPakCanvasJust leave em not worth the effort.
never show a women or anyone your weak spots because they might use that agaist you in the future (look at johnny depp), cuz you have no idea when people are gonna turn agaist you they just flip in a second no matter how close they are to you even if they were your best friends or family even.
True, but Amber Heard is a sociopath.
If you don't want to end up like Johnny, avoid girls likes Amber
True
@@sharonbalbina825 So avoid most modern women? Got it!
Even if your wife/girlfriend "loves you" ... be vulnerable and cry about your problem enough and they'll be wanting you to call a therapist instead. He's 100% right, women aren't equipped to handle real man problems/issues and say they want men to cry but don't actually want it.
Only women which will feel your vulnerability and not use it against you is called mother.
That's a lie my mom is the worst. She always uses my vulnerabilities against me.
@@kushingamachaka2603then you need to go get therapy cus your mom was evil… go get healing
Same here@@kushingamachaka2603
One time I was drunk and broke down cause I felt bad for mistreating her on FaceTime with my ex and cried and she had a weird look on her face. The next time she said “you’re always crying,” I was shocked. It was literally that one time over the years. She became colder as well and stand-offish.
Almost anytime I was vulnerable around a girl it backfired for me very quickly no matter how they appeared or where they’re from. This seems one of the things that are super innate in biology sadly
The fellas here are missing the big picture of crying around women. They’re thinking crying over trauma or personal issues. That is weak, I agree. However they’re missing the crying over death, sad stories or truly horrible events. Anyone who cries because they had a hard day is fragile. As a man, you should be your woman’s rock. But you should let yourself be vulnerable when the time is right.
he’s 100% right.
NEVERRRRRR show your vulnerability to a woman. Sure, in the moment she'll console you and give you all assurance you need. But she will never forget the time she watched a grown man cry.
Man to man, cry in the woods or cry in the dirt.
Bro I agree I had a ex girlfriend who was dating a mutual friend and he cried in front of her and she flat out said this dude is a pussy crying on my shoulder what happens when I need to cry LoL so basically what he said is true.
Why were you crying tho? She probably was right lol did your dog die or sum? Or she right
@@Breakfaststststright, what was he crying about?😂
Myron is always spot on haha
they should show this to young guys in elementary school as basic education for men.
When dad is weak and vulnerable! The whole family is fucked.
Of course
And that’s why there are so much mental health issues with men these days.
beta men*
@@yvanlebon6201 no, everyone... they just don't know yet.
Well women won't stick around
i am usually a cold, emotionless person and my ex gf would get MAD at me for not being vulnerable with her. first off, doing that is uncomfortable and out of my character. secondly, if i was to do that, she'll just think i was weak. NEVER be vulnerable with a woman, guys, no matter what.
Smart guy
Adam is destroying PBD’s empire one podcast at a time
He’s adding to Pats Empire. Not destroying anything 🤣
Deadass WTF is this?
😂😂😂😂😂
The issue is how much you do it. If someone you’re really close to or love dies, it’s perfectly natural to cry in that situation. What they’re talking about is constantly coming home to your girl, crying your eyes out, whining about how hard your life is, how you had a terrible day at work, etc. Women want to be supportive of their man, but because they’re the more emotional gender, they need the support of a strong, stoic man more, and they can’t get that out of an emotional person who’s dealing with his own problems.
It’s less about crying in and of itself and more about WHY a man is crying. If a man’s overall affect is “weak”, then him crying is going
to appear unattractive…and it’s often a death sentence for the relationship if it’s over a “frivolous” reason.
Additionally one can be sensitive and empathetic without appearing weak. The main thing to remember is that much of the advice given can’t be evaluated in a vacuum and often requires further context.
Is crying a weak trait ru not human do u not cry🤔the problem with our society we emphasize a man strength and laugh at his vulnerability and we as men created that now we blame women because they r following our lead
Wrong. Your beliving in female propaganda that they believe because no one is willing to tell a woman no in modern society. Go be weak infront of women and get your heart smashed like an accordion a few more times
My girlfriend was saying the same thing until I finally cried to her then soon as we argued i was weak in the cryin was to much never believe what they say DONT BE VULNERABLE!
i disagree with these guys. i agree with the 2 girls. as a woman, i find it powerful when a man opens up his emotions to you. i would want to comfort and hug a man while he is crying. i would not leave the relationship with him just for crying, that’s such a stupid fucking reason to break up with someone. that’s not being weak. men crying is actually strong. because men are kind of taught to bottle up their emotions and be strong because “boys don’t cry”. well guess what. men are still human. it is 100% okay for men to cry. i know some men might be scared to open up to their loved one, but if that person ends the relationship because of it, then they weren’t the right one for you. date somebody who actually cares about you having emotions and doesn’t shame you for it
whew! I can stop holding my breath! best comment I have seen. A shred of humanity at last.
Just stop lying
@@thedeanogaming i’m not lying, this is genuinely how i feel.
If you can't realistically be vulnerable with your woman, then she's not worth it.
Guy is correct 💯...i have experienced it the hard way.
If I ever show vulnerability to a woman, it will be towards a woman I'm not attracted to nor in a relationship with. There are decent female friends out there. But DO NOT show that in front of a girl you're interested in romantically, it tends to be a bust.
Showing emotion to your girl is like exposing your Achilles heel… once you’ve opened up and shown your weaknesses they won’t forget…we have enough evidence that no matter how pretty or nice a female is or comes off they can be deceitful and vengeful…protect yourself stay stoic and stay safe.
Get some therapy bro.
@@czargraham8790 u sound like a broad lmao
@@czargraham8790 no hes right...to say otherwise tells me you havent dated enough women
@@TopFlightSecurity415 nice try. I am a married woman, so I have some experience on the topic. Many men wont even open up with many of their close friends, there needs to be some kind of emotional outlet for men. The suicide rate is an absolute travesty.
@@TopFlightSecurity415u both need therapy, this type of advice explains why the suicide rate in men is so high
As a general rule yes men have to be strong leaders, it's why we're logical so we can provide solutions and apply tactical steps to keep going. You have to get to know your woman well so you know when to show some emotion so she can see you are not heartless and capable of cruelty/sociopathy but always with restraint bc you have to control and contain your emotions on demand to make decisions and perform when it comes to protection and provision.
Listening to this woman talk about women being feminine and masculine is like watching a guy pitch a slow ball to Myron to hit it out of the park
Why we need more spaces for just men. Women don’t understand our problems and taking shit out with men that have gone through the same shit helps more than any woman telling you to be more vulnerable….
Men shouldn’t front that something’s not bothering them when it is. Especially if your woman asks about it. Whether it’s work, family/friends relationships, or whatever, being open/vulnerable in that way is healthy BUT men should avoid being emotional at all cost. And whenever there is a problem, they should confide in their friends and try to fix the issue first. The last resort should be asking your girl for answers or support. It sucks that’s how it is but it’s the cold reality.
The same friends who laugh at you and preach alpha male bullshit
Get a side chic
wow….. dude im dissapointed in you, use your girl as a last resort? thats fucked up