Twin Turbo LS Swapped Delorean is Back! - DMC12 Ep. 3
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The wait is finally over! We read your comments on our other videos, and a lot of you have been asking about the twin turbo LS swapped DeLorean. So Tim and Andrew took the trek down to Miami to go pick it up form the Arsenale and get it back to S2S headquarters. The turbo DeLorean has had quite an adventure since you'd last seen it at SEMA back in November. We wrapped it gold for a supercar show in South Beach, then took the gold DeLorean to get painted on for Art Basil, and finally brought it home to get the motor fired up for the first time. Once it was started up, we didn't have much time to work out the kinks before we had to bring it down to the Arsenale in Wynwood. While we were back at S2S working on the Chevelle and Tesla Swapped C10, the DMC12 caught someone's eye! They not only wanted to buy the DeLorean, but they wanted us to get it running 100% and then some. The buyer didn't just want the car to drive down the street, he wanted us to go the extra mile and do everything we can to make sure that this thing will really tear the tires up! So we started diving back into the car; finishing up the complicated engine harness, rerouting our oil lines, and adjusting the fuel rails. Unfortunately though, when it comes to building one of a kind cars, murphy's law is always in affect. We ran into a few hiccups, but luckily they're simple enough that the next time you see this car, we'll have it driving down the street and getting ready to hit the dyno!
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So no videos after this on the Delorean?
Glad to see you left everything in this video. It helps people realize that it's not always easy. This stuff happens to everybody.
It's part of building cars! If you don't try stuff you've never done before, you'll never learn something new! It's frustrating, but it's part of the process!
With low mount turbos like that, you likely need sumps and scavenge pumps on them to stop them from pooling oil like that. I know quite a few folks who've run custom low mount setups on different platforms and encountered pretty much the same issue, seems to be an issue with not being able to purge the flow quickly enough.
That's what we're thinking. Something similar to what the old Porche's had when running setups like this!
Was gonna suggest the same and maybe some check vales so oil doesn’t return back to turbo had that on a build we did with same low mount turbos
@@SalvagetoSavage The OP is absolutely right. I still remember looking into the original STS remote mounted turbo kits and they integrate a sump pump to return the oil to the pan from the turbo. I think that a good quality electric oil pump would do those turbos wonders. I can almost guarantee that it'd eliminate the smoking. If you leave it like that for long enough it'll destroy the oil seals in the turbos and they'll have to be rebuilt. Ask almost every guy who's ever purchased an eBay turbo how important oil drainage is...lol I've had quite a few of them and as long as they have a -3 an feed and an unobstructed, unkinked, and free flowing -10 an drain line they'll work fine (as long as they were built semi-decent). I put 25,000+ miles on a $90 eBay 50 trim T3/T4 with my B18B1 swapped/cammed/built head in my EJ8 Civic at 15 psi and 412 whp. I still own that car and it has a fully built LSVTEC with an eBay dual ball bearing/billet compressor wheel turbo that now makes 709 whp at 29.5 psi and it doesn't smoke at all.
Check out the skid factory turbo yoga has done quite a few
@@carlevers5807 Al's builds are actually a few of the ones I know of, the 4th generation Liberty wagon with the 3584RS is my mate Ian's. He got the idea from the 5th gen Liberty GT low mount setup that Subaru did.
They were also building that kind of setup as an off-the-shelf kit for the GT86/BRZ platform under the brand Coyoda, might be worth shooting him (Turbo Yoda/Alan Butler) an email and asking him what setup he used for pumping/sumps. I believe he might actually have surplus gear, and it was all certainly similarly sized to the turbos you're using here.
🤩🤩 i love to see it back in the shop getting some attention! i definitely prefer the race car tattooed look over the gold… ijs!
Everything looks better with some tattoos!
I love seeing stuff like this. It shows the realities of working on engine swapped project cars. You spend a lot of time chasing down problems which in turn present other problems. It's half the fun of doing something like this, all the challenges you overcome make the completed project that much sweeter. Frustrating as hell while they all pop off but that sense of accomplishment and satisfaction that comes with overcoming those issues is one of the reasons i fell in love with working on cars.
It's always frustrating working through these issues, but it just makes us that much smarter when we go to tackle the next one!
This project is deep in the “90% done, 90% to go” phase. But it’s good to see the car back in your care. I hope the new owner keeps those Sköl wheels - they’re perfect.
The hard parts are all done. Now it's just taking care of the frustrating parts!
Thanks for showing the darker side of custom builds :D
The frustration makes the success so much sweeter!
this is my all time favorite build of any channel/tv/in person anything I've ever seen. absolutely heart broken to see yall broom her
She's not gone yet! We're still doing all the necessary stuff we need to make sure you guys see this car at its best before it goes off to the buyer!
@@SalvagetoSavage hope to see you do another one! amazing!! 👏
This car will run, no doubt about that because you guys always do an amazing job. Keep going !!
Thank you so much!
It's always the last 10% that takes so much work & time. I LOVE the 'add' for Ekster.
It's also always the most frustrating part too! Thanks for all the continued support Wrecker! We really appreciate you!
Love the struggle! It's real! Not just the canned tv version of how to build cars.
Building cars is a whole journey by itself! But it's all part of the experience!
You guys make me wish I was 40 years younger and working with your team! Great videos! Love and hate the challenges these builds bring to table on these projects. I built a Hot Rod version of the 1966 Batmobile aka The Evil Batmobile, so I know how much it sucks when the projects are hit with unanticipated problems. Not like you can go to the auto parts store and buy the part you need. Love the Delorean can't wait to see part 4! Keep up the good work and the groundbreaking projects your shop is doing.
Hi guys always nice to see challenges you are facing with this build, this Delorean it is pulling a diva move on your crew and builds a nice history in itself. Always good to see you guys work and work out issues, all the best to your team and see you in the next episode...
We're trying to be as open and honest with the process as possible. We want people to get excited to build their cars, but we don't want to build that expectation that it's not alright to have hiccups. It's part of the build. Thanks for all the support!
Love the uncut warts and all footage, without a proper injector test bed and a degree in injector testing you're really up against it but I loved that you got them out and fired them off, more than I'd have done :) God this car came out good.
Thanks so much! We wanted to give you guys the reality of building cars like this! It wouldn't be fair to only show you the successes
Been hangin for this for what seems like an eternity. Bring it!!!
Sorry to keep you waiting for so long! We promise the next video will come much sooner!
@@SalvagetoSavage 6 months?
If you've never seen a De Lorean in real life, I definitely recommend adding it to your list of cars to see. Everything about the car is pure 80's dream car nostalgia, even the interior. Wish I had the money to purchase one, but aye maybe one day. Also, love the build guys!
They definitely have that 80's style! Thanks for all the support!
It also drives like a washing machine on spin cycle.
@@jackcasse Performance definitely wasn't top priority when designing the car. Lol
Have you seen the new Delorean ? 😀😀
It's pure garbage 🗑️🤬
There are a few DeLoreans here in Ontario Canada. There were 3 in my small town a few years back.
With Timmy Tim Tim. It`s a winny win win.....♪♫♪
Great! Now that's going to be stuck in my head all day!
this was one of the most mainful things i have watched
Another great video guys…can’t WAIT to see the DeLorean making some powa
Thanks for all the support man! We really appreciate you!
Best video yet, thanks for letting us see you struggle. This ain't no trick shot channel
We try to keep it as real with you guys as possible!
Love the honesty in this video / Makes me feel slightly ok about all the horror shows I have had with my project disaster car / Really want to see you guys push on & get this sorted.
The fun of building cars in screaming at inanimate objects when everything that should have worked is somehow broken! lol
When that DMC hits 188mph you'll be going back to the past from the future!
You have my sympathy on this one. I have all the confidence in the world you guys will have this bad boy running great before it's over.
We're not giving up on it!
U guys are the best channel in florida. I wanna work with u guys and build my montero. Love ya.
Thanks so much for all the support! If you're serious about the build, hit us up on IG!
"Don't ever build Deloreans kids" - love it hahaha. Somehow both one of the coolest cars ever and one of the worst lol. Best of luck getting it driving🤙🏻
Thank you so much for the support!
It is a cool car. They customized it more then I’d prefer though. A better engine and the sound proofing inside would be fine for me. Don’t care for the wide look or an engine that big. Anything bigger then the underpowered stock engine is good. I think they came with a turbo option that was decent, which should have been the base model, not an upgrade.
@@shaunkelly9053 They never officially had turbos in the 80's version, though twin turbo widebody setup was conceptualized to be put into GT racing series and it had a really crazy body kit for it designed in the early 80's. One test mule engine was created though for one car back in the day. The Crew 2 actually has pretty similar body kit pieces you can use to build a close replica of it. The Deluxo from GTA VC was actually fairly similar looking to that design. But the new ones being built in Texas have an option for upgraded turbos, or you can take your Delorean and get a stage 2 upgrade that puts it at nearly 300ho. Still would want more than that for this day and age though, but a decent improvement to poor performance of the original. It was something like 130hp AFTER the US emissions were added. Auto versions robbed more HP. But the Eurospec ones were a bit better I believe lacking any emission tech.
@@BFKAnthony817 really? I heard there was an option for some sort of upgrade to the engine. It wasn’t much but was better then stock. I like the car and 300 hp doesn’t sound bad. I guess it’s just because of the weight of the body that it needs a lot of power.
@@shaunkelly9053 The Delorean only weighs 2,718 lb, so not exactly the heaviest 2 seat "sports" car out there. The underbody is based on a Lotus design and fiberglass made by Composite Technologies. The stainless steel panels are bolt-on. Though the turbo upgrade you are thinking of is offered by DMC in Houston. They planned a turbo back in the day(the original company) but you will never find any Stock turbo Deloreans as none were produced above 130hp. You would expect it to be widely known if there were any stock-turboed Deloreans around.
The DMC DeLorean S2 '04 that you have seen in every main Gran Turismo title since GT4 is that updated version, which was the original prototype that the company created back in 2004. That is why still to this day in GT7 is still referred to as that car with stage 2 upgrades. Hence the S2 in the name. It has taken that company until not too long ago to get approved by the US government to produce the car from new old stock parts as a low-volume automobile that does not have to meet 21st-century safety regulations.
Everytime I head down to Miami, I remember why I don't live there anymore. So glad I got away from that nightmare traffic. Anywho, sad to see you guys sold the DeLorean but, glad to see you'll be finishing her up for the dyno.
We try to stay out of MIA as much as possible!
man that thing looks SICK!!!!
Cant wait to see this fully finished and what it can do. It takes big balls to customize a delorian (away from back to the future) and you guys have pulled it of. Watch that space. 😁
This is the coolest delorean I have ever seen
We're stoked that you like it!
I'm just going to throw ONE suggestion from the comfort of my chair and ask about the fuel pressure return valve that returns the fuel NOT needed by the engine. Could it be blocked, closed or non existent so 100% of the pressure is trying to make it to the engine and causing the issue? If that's even a thing on the design.
I was going to keyboard-warrior suggest that the injector size isn't set correctly in the Haltech, or if one of the injector pins isn't set up properly in the ECU?
We're going to make sure that the injectors are physically working first so we're not banging our heads against the wall. The actual fuel system is set up correctly (in terms of the valves and the routing) The next step if our injectors are functional is going through all of the tuning on the Haltech and tweaking it to see if that's the issue! We love the feedback and suggestions! Thank you!
@@SalvagetoSavage it's awesome seeing a youtube(r) not only filming, editing & actually uploading all the content which I can only imagine is a whole lot of work (time) but you also take the time too read & reply too comments (suggestions) which is awesome cause I feel more often than not "others" simply upload their content & forget about it... With that said I 100% understand they still have family's & lives they also need too fit into the mix so we kinda can't hold it against em...
You must know somebody that can test the injectors flow and function. An actual flow bench. I'd want to be sure they are working properly before doing anything else.
By "chair" you mean toilet, right?
That’s the cleanest Delorean build I’ve ever seen. Great job guys.
Wow, thanks!
Although I’m super excited to FINALLY see a new video of the Delorean, I’m so disappointed that it was sold off. But hey, it is what it is! Would absolutely love to see this in person, since I live in Florida too, hopefully I’ll eventually get to see it. Would love to meet you guys too, your channel is super cool!
Well the Delorean is sticking around for a while till we get it running 100%! and shoot us a message if you're down here, and we'll try to make some time to show you around the shop!
@@SalvagetoSavage that would be awesome! I live in the Orlando area, what part of the FL are you guys in?
Been waiting on updates for this beast. Nice to see some progress. [insert thumbs up here].
More to come! We're hoping to have this thing on the dyno for you guys very soon!
New owner here. Don't worry guys we gon keep this thing sittin tidy on the DMC throne and keep adding to this absolute beast of a machine! 💪👑
Jason? Lol
@@SalvagetoSavage yezzir💪
That is a sweet car. Can't wait to see it.
I feel your pain.😩 But you guys have got this, can’t wait.👍❤️🇨🇦
It's just a part of the process! We ain't giving up though. Thanks for all the love!
Even when injectors are new, if they are sitting for a while, they can get stuck, there are methods to get them unstuck. It doesnt automatically mean they are bad.
15:28 need to scavenge the oil back from the turbos.
Because they are so low, the oil can not drain to the sump and it will be pooling in the cartridge and overcoming the seals.
Turbos are made to gravity drain
As soon as I win the lottery. This car will be my first purchase. Absolute beast of a car.
Love how the oil line is wound around the turbo housing & mounted at the lowest point so it'll catch on everything & grind against the ground 👍
I'm really interested to see where you mount the air filters too....
So nice to See the creativity at SEMA Show and to See Your Creativity by Building this car
Thank you!
With the turbos being mounted so low I'm sure they are getting oil back feed into them from the either the drain or feed line, you should get a electric scavenge pump set up on it maybe even some check balls in the drain lines.
I was thinking the same thing
It’s pretty obvious that is the issue, really surprised they didn’t know this going in. Seems like some real hack work
Great follow up, guys! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching! We appreciate the support!
9:45 "My whole area is full of water!"
**Flips 110V wall switch**
We're living on the wild side!
I feel your pain. The build is always a heap of fun, but trouble shooting a bunch of niggling little issues is tedious but necessary.
Niggling wtf lmao
It hurts so much when you're right in the home stretch too! Cause all you want is to see this thing fire up!
Happy to see an update on this badboy! Sad i dont have enough money to buy it lmao
You gotta have some big bucks to get any DeLorean nowadays. Have you seen what beat up stock ones are going for? it's insane!
@@SalvagetoSavage yes!! My neighbor, whos an old man, has a red one rotting on his driveway that he refuses to sell. I believe he is the original owner
I've seen a couple of turbo builds like this, where the turbo sits lower than the oil pan and, every time, there would be an oil leak at the turbo. Since the oil is gravity fed back to the oil pan from the turbo, it would pool at the turbo and cause a leak.
Scavenge pumps help but, ultimately, the only thing that fixed the issue was putting the turbo higher than the oil pan.
We have a pump, but we're probably going to be installing a sump to help with that as well!
A custom setup comes with custom problems.
You got this.
Thanks for all the support! We just about got all those issues sorted out for the next episode!
Thanks for the ride, keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching!!
In 1981 my former roommate showed me a new 1981 Delorean that he bought from a dealership for $10,800. The dealer's son went for a joyride in the car and wrecked the rear driver's side quarter panel. To hide the damage, the car was repaired in their body shop and painted entirely red to conceal the repaired rear quarter panel. The interior of the car was a battleship gray leather. I got to drive it and remember what a great memory it was. I have loved these cars ever since.
This reminds of the scene in bttf 3 when Docs trying to get the DeLorean running, fills it with moonshine and blows the exhaust off! 😝😂😂
Nicely done! 👍🏽 can’t wait for the next one
Thanks for the support!
Hey guys watch the episode of Finnegan's garage when he has his injectors tested. He had brand new injectors that weren’t working or dumping fuel. You could have a bad set of injectors
Thanks for the tip!!
Where's episode 4 with all the problems fixed and dyno'd?? Car blow up?
Can't wait to see what us done to it this vid
I have a 5.3 LS with the terminator x and a turbo and had very similar issues. I put a trail blazer SS intake on it and that fuel rail does not have a return on it (it dead heads) I had to put a fuel pressure regulator on it and dialed it back down to 65psi and now the thing runs like a champ. It looks like your fuel rail dead heads too, may want to give that a shot. Hopes this helps!!
Thanks for the heads up! We'll definitely give it a shot!
Bro hit up Comp and get either the water or air cooled oil-less turbos. Saves you all the headaches with low mounts and eliminates oil lines scavenge pumps sumps etc.
Add a turbo sump and a tilton electric oil pump to suck it out and pump back into the engine sump make sure the return is above engine oil level when it's running or pump back in through a valve cover.....
possible over pressure from the pump to the injector, may require redo of the hot side to get turbo placement elevated.
Seriously this car is probably one of my favorite builds I’ve ever seen. I’m all for the modern retro look 100% can’t wait to finish my build
thank you for the support with the build!!
The Delorean does look like the Car version of the Cyber Truck.
Check a parts store for OE replacement injector orings that are probably a little thicker diameter than what came on those dekas so they'll seal with the extension hats a little better. Seems like the sizing might be off with the Haltec if they're not actually stuck open? Could always call up Injector Dynamics and get some sweet ID1300's ;)
Thanks for the tip!
Can you pull the injectors and rail out of the plenum then actuate injectors to spray on to cardboard. Usually I can get an idea of the injector pattern and if one of the injectors is dumping more fuel than the others.
That's definitely a possibility! It wouldn't be too accurate but it would definitely give us a baseline. We'll show you what we end up doing in the next episode!
Better than anything on television!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for all the love! We couldn't do it without you guys!
@@Drcraigfreeman9280 😂
First speed bump those turbos are getting rocked
I’m sure that big ass blower didn’t help spray that oil 50 feet away! 😂
Have a look at skidfactory, they did a video on low mount/scavenging turbo setups. Very good. Way too much fuel, have you checked pressure? Tape around o ring grooves is a no no too. You don't wabt a leak developing. Get proper viton o rings.
The tape is just temporary to get it running and work through other issues. And we'll definitely check them out to get some ideas! Thanks!
Rear mounted turbos by the rear wheel is going to pick up a lot of debris during burn outs thus leading to death of the turbos.
The whistle when they turn off the engine actually sounds like Docs DeLorean
Nice twin turbo diesel delorian swap lol
Rollin that coal!
@@SalvagetoSavage LOL ya'll will get it figured out!
If I ever get rich, expect a call 😂 beautiful 👌🏾
haha! We'll be waiting lol
This is me building my 1.5jz Mk3 Supra. A straight up headache 🤦🏾♂️😂
there are definitely worse headaches to have!
Looks like "back to the furious" 🤣👌
Really cool , well done guys you did something really brave and really brilliant.
Thanks so much for all the support! We really appreciate you!
@@SalvagetoSavage and thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to see something like this. 🙏
Y’all have hit this one out of the park, over the stands, passed the highway and deep in the woods.
Such a bummer, guys. But still, this is the baddest build going right now. I know you'll get it figured out and running like the beast it was built to be.
Set backs are just a chance to learn! We tried a bunch of new stuff with this build, like the low mounted turbos, ITBs and the nexus R5s. So we're excited to get everything ironed out and learn what to do better next time! Thanks for all the support. We really appreciate it!
So many critics you guys keep doing what you doing doing great love to see the future in the future
Thanks for all the support! We don't pay them too much mind unless they're paying us for our time! lol
Fun to watch!
Welcome tô Brasil Man...mais um inscrito
You guys are so entertaining...I could watch all day!!! Love it:-))
We're glad you enjoyed the episode!
I GREW UP DRIVING MY DADS DELOREAN , IT WAS RAD .
I like the Delorean because it’s the only car u can drive down the road wit the doors open
Pro Tip: If you don’t use injectors from new they hang open. Just tap them and they will get going.
those turbos are one speed bump away from being destroyed
Love this DeLorean 😏👌🏽
Love to hear it! Hopefully we'll get it ripping for you guys soon!
Did you hear about DMC coming back with the DeLorean
Yup! It's cool seeing Stephen bring the company back to life!
Hey. Check the wiring, one side could be grounded and forcing the injectors wide open. Great content, thanks!
Thanks for the tip! That's the first thing Andrew did when we pulled out the injectors (you can see him messing back in the engine bay with a volt meter). Everything was good to go there, so we were able to exclude that issue!
@@SalvagetoSavage ah okay.. I must of missed that, apologies. Hopefully it’s an easy fix..
Smoke is pouring out the ass of this thing….. and he goes …. Woooooo!
I’m an artist… leave that sucker in my garage for a month and I’ll make it look how it should look on the outside with paint and wrap. I know what needs to be done to complement all your hard work.
Thank you for showing than even gods have real life struggles
We're nowhere close to perfect, but as long as we're improving everyday, that's all that matters!
Keep the graphics 😎... spoke to soon
OMG THIS THING HAS TURNED OUT SEXYTOO SAY THE LEAST... IVE GOTTA GO CATCH UP ON THE OTHER EPISODES ASAP... YOUVE ALL DONE SUCH AN AMAZING JOB WITH THIS PROJECT... THE FULL CHROME THRUCK NEEDS TOO BE PARKED WITH THIS THING, GRANTED ITS ON THE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE SIDE OF THINGS AS FAR AS THIS BUILD BUT THEY WOULD COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER FOR SURE...
KEEP KILLING IT WITH ALL THE AMAZING CONTENT & STAY SAFE... GOD BLESS
Thank you sir!
@@SalvagetoSavage your certainly welcome keep up the hard work it's paying off...
I had forgotten about the DeLorean. I love the stance of the car. That wide body kit is perfect 👍
Everyone forgot about the Delorean for a second. It took a few comments on UA-cam for us to remember it was in Miami! lol
@@SalvagetoSavage I am glad that it’s getting some TLC
Almost hate how much I like the gold DeLorean 😅
The Gumball livery is really cool
Ay yo traffic, traffic, lookin for ma chapstick, feelin kinda car sick, there's a Ford Maverick! See that's a million dolla song right dere!
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Love this part of getting an engine going.
You should mass produce those taillights. Seeing as the original ones are basically unobtainium.
We've been thinking about it, but we also like the idea of them being a 1 of 1 style part for the build!
Two words; Shop Drains.
Great scouts
love this car !!! cannot wait to see it on the street
We can't wait to get it ripping!
Take the rails out with unhooked injectors on and fire up fuel pump to see which injector is stuck open. New O rings that seal. Flush out injectors.