At 6:27 Lou explains how Mac lost them the last day of regionals because of a mistake on pathfinder that he couldn't help him fix in customs. Then at 9:50 Lou backtracks and says Mac shows up to customs and wasn't the problem. Lou used to be one of my favorites but this gaslighting honestly made me cringe.
I was in Hals chat for this. Lou jumped into explain. Lou was like Hal didn't get his perspective then when Hal ask what's his perspective, in the same line Lou said u know what it is. I was done after that. Then to be even more confusing, al jumped In once Lou said No one wanted to custom. Al caught him and said he was trying to make plans but lou always late. Which Lou tried to make it clear that he was the one who always wanted to do customs. Kinda hard to do customs or do reviews when after each scrims I would watch al ask if anyone was down to keep playing or something and Lou would be like nah I know what's wrong we don't need to discuss the little mistakes. Idk. I was watching Al journey and just wanna give him all my support I can. Felt like all of his hard work from situations he can't control didn't pay off with lan. I'll keep supporting him and cheering him on
@Xerendity Apex Legends I was there 5 min after Hal started the vid, I didn't hear whe Hal said Lou manipulated Lou. But kept pushing that Hal said it. Hal asked later and Lou basically said it's not what Hal said but how he said it that seemed liked Lou manipulated al. The whole point is if I u are trusting igl u have the respect of everyone on the team so if igl say hey we are playing Path without testing it before a game of course the team is gonna trust their igl. In that regards Hal was right. But I didn't hear when Hal used this exact words "Lou manipulated Al" But each there own. Vince McMahon said it best Controversy creates money. And with all the talk on this topic now, someone is getting lots of clicks
Funny thing is, is that he was JUST talking about how hal was misusing his platform and the consequences that follow, WHILE ALSO spreading disinformation that painted mac and naughty in a negative aspect about their commitment and work ethic with the customs talk.
@@leni1969yep because lou is a textbook narcissist. he only cares about morals when it affects him. as soon as it's someone else's career (naughty and mac) he doesn't care and will spread lies
First 30 seconds of the call Lou: "How can you spread lies when you don't understand my side" Hal: "What's your side" Lou: "You know MY side" I already knew the truth off that alone
Exactly. He's tired of being "misrepresented" but fails to say his perspective or give his full side of the story. He also acts like Hal can't have an opinion because he has a platform which is just insane.
if you think you know 'the truth' about other people's life from watching a fragment from a livestream, you are an NPC. If you think you know the truth from 2 lines where a guy accidentally contradicts himself, you are the biggest NPC of all NPC's.
Hal literally didn't listen to lou for half of the convo he was saying that they didn't put in the preparation as a collective and took responsibility for a negative environment and swapping comps too much, wanted hal to know what it wasnt a manipulation tactic to swap comps it was a team decision. Where was he shifting blame? he was just stating his opinion on why the team, as a collective, failed.
this guy actually did a complete 180 when Mac joined and still played it like he was telling full truths . I aint never seen no sht like that in my life lol
Lou dug his own grave and kept making it deeper while talking about what actually happened, man was literally manipulating mac in that situation too and was trying to shift the blame on hal for everything he just said. The whole community saw how much of an egotistical narcissist he is on that stream
@@abz8170 crazy take. Like yeah wins obviously mean something but you cannot say they’re nothing special when they’ve been right there the whole time. especially with match point being the format of finals.
Lou is a by the book sociopath. Tries talking his way around holding himself accountable and trying to manipulate people. As soon as Mac joined he completely walked back everything he was saying the ENTIRE time. It so sad. I hope he learns that about himself otherwise he has a lonely road ahead of him.
You’re not a psychologist dude. Relax. Most people have 0 accountability and cant handle when they’re wrong with a bit of class. Most people are like this. Just because lou is one of these people doesn’t mean he’s a narcissistic sociopath. People like you that throw these words around are no better than the person you’re attempting to call out
Out of all of this, I have gained even more respect for Hal. Calls people out, doesn't back down, and speaks up for what he thinks is right for his fellow friends/pro players. I don't think we truly understand how lucky we are as a community to have someone like Hal.
"I quit the team at the worst time possible for my teammates, but why are you talking about my obvious fault? They did stuffs too! Stop giving me bad vibes" - Lou
Went from "if mac was showing up to customs I could've showed him things" to "yOU weRe in cuStoMS, You JUst misUNdERstOOOD" Even when backtracking its not his fault. Everyone at this point wants to see lou fail so a smaller org might pick him up soley to gain attention.
I was already disliking Lou by the way he handled quitting LANimals and how he avoided taking any responsibility for the teams break up. The backlash he is receiving is not Hal’s fault but his own and again he’s trying to point fingers at someone other than himself for the consequences of his actions.
Lou with a political speech of zero relevance .. highlights his egocentrism and the fact he wants to try control how people see his image . Facts dont care about feelings , what hal says here about perspective is spot on , the ceo has a right to comment on anything. Lou outed himself here 😂 Translation : Hal please stop saying things that are true.
Bro... this really sucks for everybody involved.. truly. A team that once got us all hyped of the possibility of making LAN as FAs, great stories, great skills all around, great vibes, one goal in common.. is now a drama thing.. sad to see.. Should they stayed together? 100%.. 3 pts away from LAN while being together less than 2 weeks before ALGS starts.. cmon.. they would've been easily be a top 5 team next split, and I believe thats why all the community (most of it) was shocked and sad by this.. not only us the viewers but them the pro players.
Anyone watching this team from the beginning could have predicted this. Lou had bad vibes from the start, a lot of people just couldn't voice that because mac and naughty are just such good dudes and wouldnt let their communites talk bad about Lou.
He is not ok, he seems to be a second away from exploding or bursting into tears everytime he speaks, he is putting a mask to pretend everything is fine, but I bet he can barely hold himself together in the day by day
I agree. I think people dont get unter what Kind of pressure He was or still is . And the Thing he said about hal are absolutly right. He s just trying to keep his Name clean
After this I honestly think worse of Lou. Yeah, Hal was wrong when he said that Lou tried to convince Alb to leave TSM, it was Alb's idea. However, I have no clue what word salad Lou was going on about. Trying to sound proper and control the conversation and changing what he said every 2 seconds and then going on about Hal's big audience. Hal be like "Pathfinder was a bad comp at that point". Lou: "but we all agreed in it bro, watch your words". Like okay but ???? Maybe I missed something prior to this from Hal's stream. Honestly I thought Alb wasn't showing up to customs until he said that Lou refused to make a schedule and would do things at degenerate hours of the night (I get it, I'm also a degen), but when you want to work with others you need to communicate times and commit. Lou's just trying to avoid community hate. I don't like to hate, so I won't, but I have no interest in watching Lou or respecting him much after this. It's not that LANimals was a failure, that's fine, teams don't always work out and they had problems, but the apparent suddeness of it combined with Alb crying on stream hit hard...
Video: Hal mistakingly used the word manipulation in a sentence about LOU Lou foresees his viewers making it a huge deal Alb joins stream and hears Lou misrepresenting him
Lou shoulda just let this blow over and it woulda died up/people woulda forgot about it almost entirely but he just digs him self deeper and deeper. Theres sometimes in life when you mess up its better to let the mistake be known/forgotten vs Trying to Justify nonsense and Drilling the situation into people's brains
I'm so confused. He started out saying mac didn't show up to customs and they could have used that to work on the path comp, and then as soon as he joined he says mac showed up to customs and was "cookin" that comp with him. He's gaslighting the fuck outta him lmao
i honestly stopped feeling bad for Mac he had multiple chances to express his anger and show people the true face of Lou and that he's the only one to blame for this situation but he never did idk if it's out of being a good guy or what but i see that as silly and idiotic you don't get runned over by your friend and you still wanna keep his friendship or care about what he feels but nonetheless it's obvious now who's the good from the bad i remember when Lou was in a team with Madness and madness was treating lou so bad and that was the reason i hated madness so much it got to the point that lou couldn't take it anymore and left that team now i totally understood why that happened and i totally support madness i mean madness said that he changed now but despite that he really knew how to deal with such snake as lou
Hal is pretty imature from a social perspective especially since he knows 10,000 people watch him constantly but I do agree lou is being extremely manipulative in this situation. He felt insecure as the IgL and let that split up his team he made some bad calls and lashed out but it’s not like that’s abnormal from e sports. He needs to just take a breather and re group himself he’s not in the right headspace to be a leader and I mean that with all love to the man he’s a legend
Did Lou think that everything should run around him? Now, I understand why he is dropped by the old team and then quit the new team so quickly. He think he can do everything he want just because only his PERSPECTIVE matter.
im not gonna lie, this drama is good for apex to have something entertaining between pros cause tbh this season just aint it and with lanimals being my favorite team then they split , man smh. unforch
Lou: "Blah, blah, blah, the weight of your words, blah, blah, blah, you don't have my perspective Hal!" Hal: "Ok, what's your perspective?" Lou: "You know my perspective, you're in this shit bro."
The more Lou talks, the more complicated the situation becomes for him... what he should do is admit his mistakes, improve, and try to maintain a good friendship with Mac and Naughty even if they don't play as a team anymore. We can see that Lou gets tangled up in his own lies and stories. Mac should have been the IGL throughout the split, considering his experience and skill. It's a bit sad to see this team wasting their great potential with fights and bad decisions.
Lou people gossip, talk and have an opionion on things! When something fails that your apart of you just have to wear it. "Life" success shuts everyone up. Keep grinding bro
10:38 okay so lou is saying that everybody made individual mistakes, I get it, every team has to face this problem. why would you give up so early though? if they had just stayed together for a couple months they would have been so much better
Lou is right with saying hals words have impact. However you can tell bro is holding his ego back from being criticized. Hal could use better words, but it still shows ultimately that lou is a hypocrite and deserves the backlash
This man Lou is so soft lol Mac just needs to stop with this act and just call Lou a bitch like he wants to. It’s okay to let someone know exactly how they’re acting
6:18 Lou talking shit about Mac not showing up for customs and then almost immediately back tracking on the statement at 8:09 shows you all you need to know about Lou’s mentality
Lou just wanted someone to take his anger out on. Hal said what we were all thinking from the outside looking in. How are we supposed to know whats going on in a gc/ team chat bro.
I really think Lou has a narrow mind of what manipulation is. If someone has full faith and trust in you and you make sweeping unilateral changes then blame your team? Everyone knows what went wrong... but they dont have your perspective?
Lou definitely manipulated Mac. Mac came to him and Naughty and said he's willing to leave his salary position at TSM for their new team. Lou says yeah man do what's best for your career. Very soon afterwards he leaves the team after only being 3 points away from lan. Here he cries about Hal calling out that bs to 20k ppl, then Lou comes on here and lies about his team not showing up for practice. Bros delusional and a major hypocrite.
LOU getting mad for Hal not hearing his side then when Hal gives him the opportunity to tell it, he says “You already know it, you’re like in this shxt” like what?!
Lou did talk in circles and only now he says he failed as a leader and as team mate and its all his fault. That's a far different statement than his tweet when he quit.
To be fair I remember after scrims naughty and Mac would grind ranked and Lou would say you don’t have to but the earlier you get in customs with me and dup the better essentially for the team. And I kept watching naughty stream ranked the whole night 😭
Craziest thing...deep inside nobody thought this would work. Alb/naughty were good but lou in the mix made it a mess. But like naughty jst dippin too confused me so much. Thought him and alb had a better chance together bt idk
You can tell this dude is a master at manipulating people. Always somehow areeing and saying "100%" to every argument point, and then still saying shit right after to confuse how they feel
sadly TSM ImperialHal has fallen into the sad reality of a drama farmer. Sad to see really!
trueeee tbh
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Truuuuuu tbh
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Lou switched up faster than the speed of light when Mac called him out a out the customs.
At 6:27 Lou explains how Mac lost them the last day of regionals because of a mistake on pathfinder that he couldn't help him fix in customs. Then at 9:50 Lou backtracks and says Mac shows up to customs and wasn't the problem. Lou used to be one of my favorites but this gaslighting honestly made me cringe.
I was in Hals chat for this. Lou jumped into explain. Lou was like Hal didn't get his perspective then when Hal ask what's his perspective, in the same line Lou said u know what it is.
I was done after that. Then to be even more confusing, al jumped In once Lou said No one wanted to custom. Al caught him and said he was trying to make plans but lou always late. Which Lou tried to make it clear that he was the one who always wanted to do customs.
Kinda hard to do customs or do reviews when after each scrims I would watch al ask if anyone was down to keep playing or something and Lou would be like nah I know what's wrong we don't need to discuss the little mistakes.
Idk. I was watching Al journey and just wanna give him all my support I can. Felt like all of his hard work from situations he can't control didn't pay off with lan.
I'll keep supporting him and cheering him on
@@dangelotaylor2149 thanks for keep supporting mac bro
Lou gaslights and lies on camera while trying to say he doesnt manipulate 👍
@Xerendity Apex Legends I was there 5 min after Hal started the vid, I didn't hear whe Hal said Lou manipulated Lou. But kept pushing that Hal said it. Hal asked later and Lou basically said it's not what Hal said but how he said it that seemed liked Lou manipulated al.
The whole point is if I u are trusting igl u have the respect of everyone on the team so if igl say hey we are playing Path without testing it before a game of course the team is gonna trust their igl.
In that regards Hal was right. But I didn't hear when Hal used this exact words "Lou manipulated Al"
But each there own.
Vince McMahon said it best Controversy creates money. And with all the talk on this topic now, someone is getting lots of clicks
He switched sides so fucking fast once Mac was in discord, bro went from him not showing up at all to him being there
100%
That was embarrassing to see
Funny thing is, is that he was JUST talking about how hal was misusing his platform and the consequences that follow, WHILE ALSO spreading disinformation that painted mac and naughty in a negative aspect about their commitment and work ethic with the customs talk.
@@leni1969yep because lou is a textbook narcissist. he only cares about morals when it affects him. as soon as it's someone else's career (naughty and mac) he doesn't care and will spread lies
Lou is a liar. U don't know my side.... Hal u under stand. Lou is a good player but a sussy baka
First 30 seconds of the call
Lou: "How can you spread lies when you don't understand my side"
Hal: "What's your side"
Lou: "You know MY side"
I already knew the truth off that alone
Exactly. He's tired of being "misrepresented" but fails to say his perspective or give his full side of the story. He also acts like Hal can't have an opinion because he has a platform which is just insane.
if you think you know 'the truth' about other people's life from watching a fragment from a livestream, you are an NPC. If you think you know the truth from 2 lines where a guy accidentally contradicts himself, you are the biggest NPC of all NPC's.
@@djoerrr buddy the truth is that Lou is about to talk CIRCLES to these guys.
@@djoerrr to NPCs are the ones buying Lou’s sob stories. Same ol thing my dude.
@@djoerrr its actually funny that you literally bought his sob story. Sorry my guy but you just got gaslighted so i wonder who's the NPC lol.
Lou knows the right words to say to sound contrite and responsible, but you can tell in his tone how much he hates being criticized.
He is clearly holding himself to not explode because the backlash would be crazy
He just shuts up with hal and knows his place
@@adam93zzwhy y’all glaze hal like he Jesus or something weird
@@jasonmyers4641 hal's fans are toxic af , if you're a content creator you don't really wanna fight the haters ...
who the hell likes being criticized ? lmao
Lmao didn’t expect a Hal stream where he’s acting as a mediator
uncle hal's talk show ep2
Another day in the office for the CEO
Lou (Mac not on call) : My team-mates were the problem
Lou( Mac on call): I was the source of the friction
Hal literally didn't listen to lou for half of the convo he was saying that they didn't put in the preparation as a collective and took responsibility for a negative environment and swapping comps too much, wanted hal to know what it wasnt a manipulation tactic to swap comps it was a team decision. Where was he shifting blame? he was just stating his opinion on why the team, as a collective, failed.
Lmao “you dont understand or heard my side”
Then ten seconds later: so whats your perspective?
Lou: yOu KnOw!!
this guy actually did a complete 180 when Mac joined and still played it like he was telling full truths . I aint never seen no sht like that in my life lol
The fact that Lou backtracked so hard and when Mac joined he completely changed the story… it just shows Lou is the problem
Lou made champs and alb is a spectator
Lou dug his own grave and kept making it deeper while talking about what actually happened, man was literally manipulating mac in that situation too and was trying to shift the blame on hal for everything he just said. The whole community saw how much of an egotistical narcissist he is on that stream
🤡
Lou need help dude doesn’t look the same
He even managed to manipulate Hal into apologizing, he should become a politician
Lou is a fraud of gaslighting
@@mk-19memelauncher65 🤡🤡
Honestly this team has so much potential, I’m really disappointed Lou bailed so early without ever trying to make it work.
Same they were so good if only they gave it time thé would’ve reached peak that NRG and TSM are rn
@@allenjaygaming3675 NRG isn’t anything special tbh, they’ve been in the game for 4 years and achieved anything at LAN
@@abz8170 crazy take. Like yeah wins obviously mean something but you cannot say they’re nothing special when they’ve been right there the whole time. especially with match point being the format of finals.
I think working with naughty felt impossible to him
If only they had a coach to keep them cool headed like how Raven does for TSM
Lou with the quickest pivot ever known to man once Mac joined the call
Bro switched up at Mac 10
😂
I was laughing so hard when Mac said that he is fairly easy to persuade😭
dude's submissive now
Lou is a by the book sociopath. Tries talking his way around holding himself accountable and trying to manipulate people. As soon as Mac joined he completely walked back everything he was saying the ENTIRE time. It so sad. I hope he learns that about himself otherwise he has a lonely road ahead of him.
You’re not a psychologist dude. Relax. Most people have 0 accountability and cant handle when they’re wrong with a bit of class. Most people are like this. Just because lou is one of these people doesn’t mean he’s a narcissistic sociopath. People like you that throw these words around are no better than the person you’re attempting to call out
Armchair psychologists are the funniest things 😂
Lou got exposed and then when Mac came and confronted him he tried to switch it up to hal😂😂😂
Out of all of this, I have gained even more respect for Hal. Calls people out, doesn't back down, and speaks up for what he thinks is right for his fellow friends/pro players. I don't think we truly understand how lucky we are as a community to have someone like Hal.
Hope you’re being sarcastic lol
@@opderrickcdswhy
@@opderrickcds what's so sarcastic about this comment?
@@opderrickcds bot
@@opderrickcdshater
Lou played the victim so hard he needs an oscar
"I quit the team at the worst time possible for my teammates, but why are you talking about my obvious fault? They did stuffs too! Stop giving me bad vibes" - Lou
Went from "if mac was showing up to customs I could've showed him things" to "yOU weRe in cuStoMS, You JUst misUNdERstOOOD"
Even when backtracking its not his fault.
Everyone at this point wants to see lou fail so a smaller org might pick him up soley to gain attention.
Bro, even Hal said, watch the videos
Thank you J Hawk for bringing the truth out and creating this debate!
J hawk the 🐐
Outside looking in, Lou is not a teammate I would like to play with.
Bc he wants his teammates to show up for practices?
@@ashtrae7953 Practices to which he didn't show up to. then blamed him leaving on his teammates not coming to those practices
@@r3act250 if the coach (doop) and the team leader (lou) are in customs sounds like that's the practice. If you are a team you should be there
@@ashtrae7953but then when one of his teammates joins the call and says he did show up, lou agrees? care to explain ?
@@diaperamess Yeah, Lou changed the tone really quick when Alb joined. He even said that he was at fault even with Naughty.
I was already disliking Lou by the way he handled quitting LANimals and how he avoided taking any responsibility for the teams break up. The backlash he is receiving is not Hal’s fault but his own and again he’s trying to point fingers at someone other than himself for the consequences of his actions.
lmao lou switched sides so quick. dude sounded crazy once alb got in
The cherry on top was Naughty saying in Hal’s chat Lous full of shit 😂😂😂
I didn’t see that part but that’s funny af if he did 😭🤣😂 what’s the timestamp if you don’t mind I want to see when Lmao
Lou with a political speech of zero relevance .. highlights his egocentrism and the fact he wants to try control how people see his image .
Facts dont care about feelings , what hal says here about perspective is spot on , the ceo has a right to comment on anything.
Lou outed himself here 😂
Translation :
Hal please stop saying things that are true.
Bro... this really sucks for everybody involved.. truly. A team that once got us all hyped of the possibility of making LAN as FAs, great stories, great skills all around, great vibes, one goal in common.. is now a drama thing.. sad to see..
Should they stayed together? 100%.. 3 pts away from LAN while being together less than 2 weeks before ALGS starts.. cmon.. they would've been easily be a top 5 team next split, and I believe thats why all the community (most of it) was shocked and sad by this.. not only us the viewers but them the pro players.
Straight up
Shut up it’s not that deep weirdo lmao
Lou the kind of dude who drinks bud light and supports COD
😂😂😂
Lmfao
bro has a 2 foot tattoo on his neck
Bud, that literally makes no sense 💀
That's basically the entire apex comp reddit and pros lol
mac admitting he's gullible and lou clearly pissing the bed is funny man
The reality is lou just can’t swallow his pride and admit he just doesn’t think Mac and naughty are good enough to team with him lol
Lou really just trying to sound cool to get some of hals viewers
Anyone watching this team from the beginning could have predicted this. Lou had bad vibes from the start, a lot of people just couldn't voice that because mac and naughty are just such good dudes and wouldnt let their communites talk bad about Lou.
lou got scared when mac joined
Dude did a 180 tap strafe
Lmao 😂
16:49 Literally Dr.Phillip xD
Hal’s face while Lou and Mac are talking 😂
Say what you want about this situation and everyone involved, I think we should be worried about Lou.
To be honest. At the end of the day everyone needs to relax and move on
He is not ok, he seems to be a second away from exploding or bursting into tears everytime he speaks, he is putting a mask to pretend everything is fine, but I bet he can barely hold himself together in the day by day
I agree. I think people dont get unter what Kind of pressure He was or still is .
And the Thing he said about hal are absolutly right.
He s just trying to keep his Name clean
@@iZleeper no, what he said is wrong and dishonest. You can be concerned about Lou and still hold him accountable
Worried about him?? Y’all are taking this way more serious than the people actually involved
Lou back tracking right when Alb joined up lol
Hal: What's your side
Lou: You know MY side
Lou buddy, that’s not a valid explanation. You basically lost us when you said that.
"This is si dumb I feel like I'm on a reality show" LMFAO Hall funny asf
i respect hal more than ever. literally there is no one like him.
he is literally the most average person ever.
@@radioman4179 hey lou don't comment from random account xD
@@radioman4179 then wat r you?
@@radioman4179 the wording of this response cracks me tf up😂😂😂😂
@@radioman4179said by the npc
I’d love to see Mac do a VOD review of this whole conversation but the amount of times straight up says two contradicting things is hilarious.
After this I honestly think worse of Lou. Yeah, Hal was wrong when he said that Lou tried to convince Alb to leave TSM, it was Alb's idea. However, I have no clue what word salad Lou was going on about. Trying to sound proper and control the conversation and changing what he said every 2 seconds and then going on about Hal's big audience. Hal be like "Pathfinder was a bad comp at that point". Lou: "but we all agreed in it bro, watch your words". Like okay but ???? Maybe I missed something prior to this from Hal's stream. Honestly I thought Alb wasn't showing up to customs until he said that Lou refused to make a schedule and would do things at degenerate hours of the night (I get it, I'm also a degen), but when you want to work with others you need to communicate times and commit. Lou's just trying to avoid community hate. I don't like to hate, so I won't, but I have no interest in watching Lou or respecting him much after this.
It's not that LANimals was a failure, that's fine, teams don't always work out and they had problems, but the apparent suddeness of it combined with Alb crying on stream hit hard...
Lou is just tryna save face, lous a bum. Like hal said, his egos bigger then he is.
Man I have heard “weight of your words” enough times in this video to last a lifetime
Video:
Hal mistakingly used the word manipulation in a sentence about LOU
Lou foresees his viewers making it a huge deal
Alb joins stream and hears Lou misrepresenting him
Lou shoulda just let this blow over and it woulda died up/people woulda forgot about it almost entirely but he just digs him self deeper and deeper. Theres sometimes in life when you mess up its better to let the mistake be known/forgotten vs Trying to Justify nonsense and Drilling the situation into people's brains
Lou: You didnt ask my perspective
Hal: What's your perspective
Lou: You know!
Lou literally went from saying Mac and naughty weren't in customs to , "Mac you were there in customs"
Pro apex is turning into the WWE with all the drama
When backtracking doesn't go the way you thought...
I love that you put in twitch chat, makes this way funnier
I'm so confused. He started out saying mac didn't show up to customs and they could have used that to work on the path comp, and then as soon as he joined he says mac showed up to customs and was "cookin" that comp with him. He's gaslighting the fuck outta him lmao
i honestly stopped feeling bad for Mac he had multiple chances to express his anger and show people the true face of Lou and that he's the only one to blame for this situation but he never did idk if it's out of being a good guy or what but i see that as silly and idiotic you don't get runned over by your friend and you still wanna keep his friendship or care about what he feels
but nonetheless it's obvious now who's the good from the bad
i remember when Lou was in a team with Madness and madness was treating lou so bad and that was the reason i hated madness so much it got to the point that lou couldn't take it anymore and left that team now i totally understood why that happened and i totally support madness i mean madness said that he changed now but despite that he really knew how to deal with such snake as lou
Hal is classy af
I did a 5× zoom on hals face for the whole vid just to see the faces he is making. Pretty fun
Bro adding the meanwhile is crazy
Hal is pretty imature from a social perspective especially since he knows 10,000 people watch him constantly but I do agree lou is being extremely manipulative in this situation. He felt insecure as the IgL and let that split up his team he made some bad calls and lashed out but it’s not like that’s abnormal from e sports. He needs to just take a breather and re group himself he’s not in the right headspace to be a leader and I mean that with all love to the man he’s a legend
NGL I kinda wanted to stay neutral in this whole mess but Lou switching up when Alb joined was craaaazy
i wish lou would just go shoot another season of workaholics.... i miss that show
Man I’m genuinely sad, I thought we were gonna see the come back of Lou and instead we just seeing a second downfall
He’ll be fine once this all blows over and the casual twitch chatters stop trying to psychoanalyze him through the computer
@@carmencupif he just stopped contradicting himself constantly and just stopped talking there workshops be an issue lol
Did Lou think that everything should run around him? Now, I understand why he is dropped by the old team and then quit the new team so quickly. He think he can do everything he want just because only his PERSPECTIVE matter.
The number of times lou contradicted himself in this kind video lol
Lou tried to manipulate the whole gang. And as soon as Mac was in there it all changed haha.
im not gonna lie, this drama is good for apex to have something entertaining between pros cause tbh this season just aint it and with lanimals being my favorite team then they split , man smh. unforch
Lou: "Blah, blah, blah, the weight of your words, blah, blah, blah, you don't have my perspective Hal!"
Hal: "Ok, what's your perspective?"
Lou: "You know my perspective, you're in this shit bro."
The more Lou talks, the more complicated the situation becomes for him... what he should do is admit his mistakes, improve, and try to maintain a good friendship with Mac and Naughty even if they don't play as a team anymore. We can see that Lou gets tangled up in his own lies and stories. Mac should have been the IGL throughout the split, considering his experience and skill.
It's a bit sad to see this team wasting their great potential with fights and bad decisions.
CEO crossed the line, it’s not his business, it wasn’t his team, plus he is champs with TSM, maybe focus on staying on top instead of hs drama
I feel like this dude Lou practiced telling Hal off in the mirror for weeks and still came off as fake lol
Lou is an S-tier gaslighter
Lou people gossip, talk and have an opionion on things! When something fails that your apart of you just have to wear it. "Life" success shuts everyone up. Keep grinding bro
10:38 okay so lou is saying that everybody made individual mistakes, I get it, every team has to face this problem. why would you give up so early though? if they had just stayed together for a couple months they would have been so much better
Lou “I need consistency” literally left sentinels 😂
Dude leaves every team he plays on his, he’s extremely indecisive both in and out the game.
He was dropped
@@juandelacruz4679 because he checked out hence he quit 🤦🏻♂️
Lou is right with saying hals words have impact. However you can tell bro is holding his ego back from being criticized. Hal could use better words, but it still shows ultimately that lou is a hypocrite and deserves the backlash
I didn’t want to have a jhawk session😂
This man Lou is so soft lol Mac just needs to stop with this act and just call Lou a bitch like he wants to. It’s okay to let someone know exactly how they’re acting
6:18 Lou talking shit about Mac not showing up for customs and then almost immediately back tracking on the statement at 8:09 shows you all you need to know about Lou’s mentality
Best context Apex has released in a minute. Bringing the hype back
lou ovb isnt 100% right and he knows that, but he is right about hal speaking so certainly about their situation without lou's pov.
Lou choking on his words so hard hahaha
CAT FIGHTING BOO CATFIGHTING. GOOD Masculinity .s not talking behind ppls back you talk straight to someones face, FACE TO FACE man to man,
Lou : Get your facts straight
Hal : why pathfinder
Abra : am i being manipulated
Sweetdreams : damit gild !!!
Lou just wanted someone to take his anger out on. Hal said what we were all thinking from the outside looking in. How are we supposed to know whats going on in a gc/ team chat bro.
Bruh I wish we could watch all these guys box it out. It would be hilarious
"You don't know my perspective" L
"Okay whats your perspective?" H
"You know my perspective" L ????
I really think Lou has a narrow mind of what manipulation is. If someone has full faith and trust in you and you make sweeping unilateral changes then blame your team?
Everyone knows what went wrong... but they dont have your perspective?
Never expect Hal be this close to a drama, dang thats so sad but yet interesting lol.
Lou definitely manipulated Mac. Mac came to him and Naughty and said he's willing to leave his salary position at TSM for their new team. Lou says yeah man do what's best for your career. Very soon afterwards he leaves the team after only being 3 points away from lan.
Here he cries about Hal calling out that bs to 20k ppl, then Lou comes on here and lies about his team not showing up for practice. Bros delusional and a major hypocrite.
Bruhh I'm just so sad to see this go down like this. Lou saying a lot without saying anything, it's all just frustrating and annoying to listen to...
LOU getting mad for Hal not hearing his side then when Hal gives him the opportunity to tell it, he says “You already know it, you’re like in this shxt” like what?!
Lou did talk in circles and only now he says he failed as a leader and as team mate and its all his fault. That's a far different statement than his tweet when he quit.
He said mac wasnt there, then says mac you were there 100 % lmao whaa
To be fair I remember after scrims naughty and Mac would grind ranked and Lou would say you don’t have to but the earlier you get in customs with me and dup the better essentially for the team. And I kept watching naughty stream ranked the whole night 😭
Lou came here to attempt to clear his name etc, and just ended up making himself seem like more of an idiot.
Whole lot of verbal gymnastics from Lou
Craziest thing...deep inside nobody thought this would work. Alb/naughty were good but lou in the mix made it a mess.
But like naughty jst dippin too confused me so much. Thought him and alb had a better chance together bt idk
Thus shit real 😂
You can tell this dude is a master at manipulating people. Always somehow areeing and saying "100%" to every argument point, and then still saying shit right after to confuse how they feel