Cool Video! What motor did you use on your Turbo Scorpion? It looks pretty quick. I also have one but haven't started assembling it yet. Can't decide which motor & esc to use.
What I like about Kyosho's Legendary series is how everything is so easy to get to and to remove, removing the gearbox on this is butter and doing any type of service when out and about is realistic with just a couple tools in your pocket. I love this era of Kyosho. Pure quality, and they even sound better imo lol. Sweet upload dude!
Nice work, and a bit surprising that it was quicker than the Ultima. You are right about weight, but weight is a funny thing in RC cars. With LiPo batteries it's actually possible to have a car that is too light per it's era. That is, some cars have suspension that was designed to hold more weight cause when they were made the available batteries and electronics were heavier. Fun vid as always btw.
Weight and tire compounds were absolutely a plus with this car. Ultima will crush it with a few small tweaks imo. This buggy is so much fun to drive! I really love it.
Lovely build! Did your front wheels have a lot of toe in when you first built it? Mine looks like it has a fair bit and I'm not sure if it's meant to be like that or not. I followed the diagrams to a T and double checked everything was lined up nicely. Waiting for the electronics to arrive so I can test drive it.
You need to mess around with the axle angle and link length. When it falls into place it's much less of a compromise with what's considered tolerable amounts of bumpsteer.
You’ve got too much caster set into the front suspension that’s why you have too much camber change and bump steer. It’s a great video and love the colours
Man , fantastic and very professionally done video! From beginning to end! This was awesome! This buggy is amazing ! Think I’m going to have to build a kit like this! It really handled your track great ! Like you said; grip is key! This did just that! Thanks for sharing your amazing experience with this buggy! The Rc Elf really knows how to pick’em! Hope you and your family have a wonderful thanks giving!
Thanks bud. Great kit! You will not be disappointed at all. Was beyond fun to drive. Elf Rocks and picked a good one for us for sure! Happy Thanksgiving friend.
DUDE! MORE RACES MAN! My Daughter waits to see your daughter and wants to see her run her buggies? My daughter has a Monster beetle for crawling, a Wild Wendy for wheelies, a Frog and a Neo Fighter(new frog) for 2wd buggies, and a Terra Scorcher for 4wd fun. A Karmenghia for on-road fun. She told me the other day that the only car she ever really wanted was a Sand Scorcher? I found a NIB and it will be here for her Xmas. All vehicles except for the Black Monster beetle are pink in nature. Oh and a funny thing, she only like stick radios?
Unfortunately we are about done this year with the track (may have one or two left). Weather here is not super great. Love that you are getting to enjoy RC with your best bud! Going to try and get a stick TX working for mine and see if it helps her driving. Rock on my friend.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC the wheel radio no matter what size grip I got for her it didn't matter I would find her holding the radio and a strange position almost with the thumb going through the trigger and the wheel concept for some reason removed the finesse the gentleness, the tactical feel that she liked when we would go boating I'm from the old school, and you know my first remote controls were those from the Mattel company 1978 I had the lone eagle drive command tractor trailer semi RC truck and it had the 9 volt battery box with a single on/off button and a steering wheel and it was rather terrible but at that time I was only 7 years old and that was incredible. They also had a Porsche and various other vehicles like the Ferrari 512 and the Lancia stratos but my favorite will always be that tractor trailer because it had the Kenworth cab over look and it was more of a 10-wheeler than a 18 wheeler. And then that's when it happened a few years later and I'm holding in my hand the boxiest of box radios with two extremely uncomfortable completely misplaced throttle and steering quadrant and the best driving sensation because of those two sticks on the Audi Quattro from radio shack. It came with a 380 size motor and you would have to run it on six Duracell batteries the voltage was there but can you imagine running a 380 and a car that was completely made of plastic with nothing in the way of weight reduction and even had a servo in the front for fully proportional steering all powered from the six 1.5 volt blister pack ever ready batteries that last maybe 10 minutes and you'd have to load another set of batteries in. Needless to say it wasn't run that much I used to open the trunk area and hide the progress reports that I would get sent home from school in the trunk area usually forgetting about them and then getting an even more trouble. But that was when I became completely addicted to and completely centered and focused on Stick radios I've tried in the past to have wheel radios I had a Futaba Magnum Jr with a few features not the pro version but I still didn't like it I've never expressed my dislike for the real radios as a matter of fact I've tried various sizes and colors to see if she would take to use in the wheel radio and maybe that the wheel would make more sense but when I saw her awkwardness and using it I switched her quickly to a stick and voila I didn't even have to explain that when the vehicle is coming back towards you head on that the controls will be backwards she just did it. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that she's right-handed except when she rides on skateboards scooters and even power scooters she's goofy foot LOL. You mentioned that the weather is getting tough. You stated that it's getting brisk and cold you know they have this really cool set of gloves with a clear box portion in the center that you place your radio control and stick your hands through the gloves on either side. LMAO 🤣. Hopefully you'll get one of those fluke warm spring like days that bring fall to an end and signal the true beginning of winter maybe the last Indian summer and you'll get a few races in for us. Car you've got on the top of the leaderboard off 😆 LOL.
Are we going to be seeing a 1988 or 2011 re-release avante at some point? It would be interesting to see where they'd compare to something like the Top Cat.
I don't own any of them (wish I did). If I had a dream car to compare it would be a runner quality (old school) Astute or Super Astute (more of a 2wd buggy guy). Was wishing Tamiya re-popped the older car...but no luck so far.
It is a gorgeous buggy and it is a great running buggy as well! I love the pink variation you did with yours and it really transforms the look of it! I like it a lot! I always enjoy seeing the car run around your track! Wonderful!
Thanks friend. I always appreciate the kind words. Kid talked me into the pink...sort of growing on me as well. Feel the same about your vids/ track as well! It's such a great kit...would recommend it to anyone looking to dabble into the "vintage" side of RC. Bone stock and it's a dream to drive (needs thicker oil in the rear shocks and will be dialed).Keep on Rocking!
Great video.. Did the track conditions help the scorpion beat the ultima? The ultima run looked pretty dry and dusty whereas this run looks like the track was a bit firmer with much more grip. After some quality cars going around the track the big surprise on that leader board is still the hotshot
The front tires on the Ultima are like pvc plastic compared to the Scorp tires. Agree the track was more tacky the day the Scorp ran so there would have been a difference for sure. Just think the rears would bite in even more on the Ultima on a tacky track tbh. So maybe a closer gap but I don't feel it would have been faster. One thing I cant really control unless I go full Astro. Wish I had time to run everything on the same day...lol.
100 reasons why. But most importantly is consistency. Brushed motors are different every time you run. Brush and com.wear are different every time you fire one up. Try to do my best to maintain consistency on the electronic side of things since there is a leader board. Hopefully you enjoyed the video otherwise.
Thanks bud. Girl is getting adjusted to the new GoPro and I 'tried" to calm down a bit with the camera angles (was no easy). The kit is fantastic. let me/us know how it turns out.
Ran our 25.5 brushless in it.Its our "pro car" package. Motor in that pic was just for an old school display shot. Somewhere in one of our vids. we did a description of the rules package for the time attacks. Pretty much race buggies get brushless. Plastic stuff gets silvercan.
Sorry mate ive missed a ton of your videos. Not been notified. Yeah I highly rate the TS. It certainly flies and handles great . Really enjoyable video😊👍 Great Series of Time trials . Look forward to seeing more 😊👍
So there was me thinking I could hold off on the urge to get a Kyosho and you go and pull this awesome video out the bag!! What a surprise that the Scorpion out performed the Ultima but your explanation makes complete sense. I suspect something similar out on the Orchard Raceway. Thanks for sharing dude and rock on 🤘🏻
The 2.2 wheel/ soft tire combination helped the Turbo beat the Ultima , I agree. BITD racers in my area said trailing arm suspensions worked well on rough surfaces hence the minor popularity of trailing arm conversion kits for rc10s and Ultimas. I even tried a trailing arm Optima just to see what it was like.
Another great vid and I really like the colour-scheme. One factor that plays a role here is weight distribution. The Turbo Scorpion has the battery longitudinal. I have a Tomahawk and after I mounted a shorty longitudinal and increased the wheelbase to Turbo Scorpion-spec there was a totally different car. Almost no understeer.
Totally agree. The combo. of the hard tires and super light front of the Ultima is what makes it "slow" on our track. Fairly easy fix...unfortunately "mod runs" will need to wait until next season at this point. Appreciate it brother.
i recently returned to the hobby after a 30+ year break and immediately picked up a Turbo Scorpion and a Turbo Optima and jumped right into the Turbo Scorpion build. running it for 25-30 minutes after work before dark a few nights a week has really helped me unwind. it runs and handles well and is just the greatest looking buggy of all time. it looks ready to make a run down the Baja. a timeless classic.
That's awesome Steve. It's 100% on my recommendation list especially for a "vintage" RC person. Has a great mix of vintage with the durability of a newer kit. Plus it looks bad a*s!
Hi there and what a great Kyosho model, I remember in the middle 80’s my friends and had Tamiya’s and a friend got a Kyosho Ultima, just blew us away ! Even to this day, the Kyosho’s look good. I’ve yet to get a Kyosho and have the building and running pleasure. Enjoy my friend. Take care and best wishes to you all 😊😉😁
Thanks so much friend. The quality of the Kyosho Re-Re kits are second to none imo. You won't be disappointed with any of the choices out there. The Ultima would easily be track king with a set of tires and some weight.
Thanks bud. It did great for sure. I felt very confident hanging it out. If you look back at the video...you can see me reaching the track limits on the front straight on a few laps. Only thing it needs currently is more rear damping to stop it from bottoming out on landings. Awesome buggy!
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC And having watched the full video, amazed at the time! Just bought the Turbo Optima re-release and now thinking it needs a 2WD little brother! Subscribed!
I've got a handful of Tamiyas, but Kyosho makes some sweet machines!
Awesome video! I just subscribed to your channel. 👍👍👍👍
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the support.
Cool Video! What motor did you use on your Turbo Scorpion? It looks pretty quick. I also have one but haven't started assembling it yet. Can't decide which motor & esc to use.
Thanks so much. I am running a brushless 25.5 in the buggy. We have a fairly small yard and I think anything larger could use a 17.5+
What I like about Kyosho's Legendary series is how everything is so easy to get to and to remove, removing the gearbox on this is butter and doing any type of service when out and about is realistic with just a couple tools in your pocket. I love this era of Kyosho. Pure quality, and they even sound better imo lol. Sweet upload dude!
Thanks bud. Really fell in love with this car during the shoot. It does everything right. I now want to add to the series...lol.
Nice work, and a bit surprising that it was quicker than the Ultima. You are right about weight, but weight is a funny thing in RC cars. With LiPo batteries it's actually possible to have a car that is too light per it's era. That is, some cars have suspension that was designed to hold more weight cause when they were made the available batteries and electronics were heavier.
Fun vid as always btw.
Weight and tire compounds were absolutely a plus with this car.
Ultima will crush it with a few small tweaks imo. This buggy is so much fun to drive! I really love it.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC Me too, well…my frankensteined og one anyway. I thought mine drove a bit like the Wild One tbh.
Awesome Video! If you had to pick one Turbo Scorpion or Turbo Optima?
I like 2wd over 4wd but both are great cars...and thanks!
Lovely build! Did your front wheels have a lot of toe in when you first built it? Mine looks like it has a fair bit and I'm not sure if it's meant to be like that or not. I followed the diagrams to a T and double checked everything was lined up nicely. Waiting for the electronics to arrive so I can test drive it.
You need to mess around with the axle angle and link length. When it falls into place it's much less of a compromise with what's considered tolerable amounts of bumpsteer.
You’ve got too much caster set into the front suspension that’s why you have too much camber change and bump steer. It’s a great video and love the colours
Will take a look at it this weekend. Appreciate the tip.
Man , fantastic and very professionally done video! From beginning to end! This was awesome! This buggy is amazing ! Think I’m going to have to build a kit like this! It really handled your track great ! Like you said; grip is key! This did just that! Thanks for sharing your amazing experience with this buggy! The Rc Elf really knows how to pick’em! Hope you and your family have a wonderful thanks giving!
Thanks bud. Great kit! You will not be disappointed at all. Was beyond fun to drive. Elf Rocks and picked a good one for us for sure! Happy Thanksgiving friend.
Sealed is good. Iam on war with sand and dust 😅 maybe I only hate hardcore cleaning
The sealed tub is fantastic! Car cleans up quick for sure.
DUDE! MORE RACES MAN! My Daughter waits to see your daughter and wants to see her run her buggies? My daughter has a Monster beetle for crawling, a Wild Wendy for wheelies, a Frog and a Neo Fighter(new frog) for 2wd buggies, and a Terra Scorcher for 4wd fun. A Karmenghia for on-road fun. She told me the other day that the only car she ever really wanted was a Sand Scorcher? I found a NIB and it will be here for her Xmas. All vehicles except for the Black Monster beetle are pink in nature. Oh and a funny thing, she only like stick radios?
Unfortunately we are about done this year with the track (may have one or two left). Weather here is not super great. Love that you are getting to enjoy RC with your best bud! Going to try and get a stick TX working for mine and see if it helps her driving. Rock on my friend.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC the wheel radio no matter what size grip I got for her it didn't matter I would find her holding the radio and a strange position almost with the thumb going through the trigger and the wheel concept for some reason removed the finesse the gentleness, the tactical feel that she liked when we would go boating I'm from the old school, and you know my first remote controls were those from the Mattel company 1978 I had the lone eagle drive command tractor trailer semi RC truck and it had the 9 volt battery box with a single on/off button and a steering wheel and it was rather terrible but at that time I was only 7 years old and that was incredible. They also had a Porsche and various other vehicles like the Ferrari 512 and the Lancia stratos but my favorite will always be that tractor trailer because it had the Kenworth cab over look and it was more of a 10-wheeler than a 18 wheeler.
And then that's when it happened a few years later and I'm holding in my hand the boxiest of box radios with two extremely uncomfortable completely misplaced throttle and steering quadrant and the best driving sensation because of those two sticks on the Audi Quattro from radio shack. It came with a 380 size motor and you would have to run it on six Duracell batteries the voltage was there but can you imagine running a 380 and a car that was completely made of plastic with nothing in the way of weight reduction and even had a servo in the front for fully proportional steering all powered from the six 1.5 volt blister pack ever ready batteries that last maybe 10 minutes and you'd have to load another set of batteries in. Needless to say it wasn't run that much I used to open the trunk area and hide the progress reports that I would get sent home from school in the trunk area usually forgetting about them and then getting an even more trouble. But that was when I became completely addicted to and completely centered and focused on Stick radios I've tried in the past to have wheel radios I had a Futaba Magnum Jr with a few features not the pro version but I still didn't like it I've never expressed my dislike for the real radios as a matter of fact I've tried various sizes and colors to see if she would take to use in the wheel radio and maybe that the wheel would make more sense but when I saw her awkwardness and using it I switched her quickly to a stick and voila I didn't even have to explain that when the vehicle is coming back towards you head on that the controls will be backwards she just did it. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that she's right-handed except when she rides on skateboards scooters and even power scooters she's goofy foot LOL. You mentioned that the weather is getting tough. You stated that it's getting brisk and cold you know they have this really cool set of gloves with a clear box portion in the center that you place your radio control and stick your hands through the gloves on either side. LMAO 🤣.
Hopefully you'll get one of those fluke warm spring like days that bring fall to an end and signal the true beginning of winter maybe the last Indian summer and you'll get a few races in for us. Car you've got on the top of the leaderboard off 😆 LOL.
Are we going to be seeing a 1988 or 2011 re-release avante at some point? It would be interesting to see where they'd compare to something like the Top Cat.
I don't own any of them (wish I did). If I had a dream car to compare it would be a runner quality (old school) Astute or Super Astute (more of a 2wd buggy guy). Was wishing Tamiya re-popped the older car...but no luck so far.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC That's fair, these old buggies really do still look modern though
It is a gorgeous buggy and it is a great running buggy as well! I love the pink variation you did with yours and it really transforms the look of it! I like it a lot! I always enjoy seeing the car run around your track! Wonderful!
Thanks friend. I always appreciate the kind words. Kid talked me into the pink...sort of growing on me as well. Feel the same about your vids/ track as well! It's such a great kit...would recommend it to anyone looking to dabble into the "vintage" side of RC. Bone stock and it's a dream to drive (needs thicker oil in the rear shocks and will be dialed).Keep on Rocking!
Great video.. Did the track conditions help the scorpion beat the ultima? The ultima run looked pretty dry and dusty whereas this run looks like the track was a bit firmer with much more grip. After some quality cars going around the track the big surprise on that leader board is still the hotshot
The front tires on the Ultima are like pvc plastic compared to the Scorp tires. Agree the track was more tacky the day the Scorp ran so there would have been a difference for sure. Just think the rears would bite in even more on the Ultima on a tacky track tbh. So maybe a closer gap but I don't feel it would have been faster. One thing I cant really control unless I go full Astro. Wish I had time to run everything on the same day...lol.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC great comparisons regardless of track condition though. Keep up the good work 👌
nooooo, not brushless! why??
100 reasons why.
But most importantly is consistency.
Brushed motors are different every time you run. Brush and com.wear are different every time you fire one up.
Try to do my best to maintain consistency on the electronic side of things since there is a leader board.
Hopefully you enjoyed the video otherwise.
BEAUTY! Love the scorpion it drives so good! they are both winners though!
Fantastic buggy my friend. Appreciate it.
Yes this is one of the best equiped buggies. And Kyosho really upgraded it, ond not knly re-re it. I totally agree with you summary👍
Thanks friend. It's a great kit!
Such an awesome run and review of the Turbo Scorpion. It sure is great to drive. I love mine!👍😊
Thanks bud! Amazing buggy for sure.
How many inches did you get.
No snow yet. Day I did the wrap up it was 34 outside...so it's coming sooner than later...lol.
Love my Scorpion and have a Turbo Scorpion sitting in the box waiting to get built. Best camera work and editing yet!
Thanks bud. Girl is getting adjusted to the new GoPro and I 'tried" to calm down a bit with the camera angles (was no easy). The kit is fantastic. let me/us know how it turns out.
2:38 Is it faster because of a better motor than those Tamiyas?
Ran our 25.5 brushless in it.Its our "pro car" package. Motor in that pic was just for an old school display shot. Somewhere in one of our vids. we did a description of the rules package for the time attacks.
Pretty much race buggies get brushless.
Plastic stuff gets silvercan.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC Thank you for the information
looks great
Thanks friend.
Great content
Thanks so much!
Sorry mate ive missed a ton of your videos. Not been notified.
Yeah I highly rate the TS. It certainly flies and handles great . Really enjoyable video😊👍
Great Series of Time trials . Look forward to seeing more 😊👍
No worries my friend. I have the same issue tbh.
We love doing the time trials!
It's such a great buggy. They did this one right!
Rock on brother.
Cracking video Jim, love your back
Garden track, super footage as well , never driven a turbo scorpion myself but they look superb . Top
Work
Thanks bud! Appreciate the kind words. Great kit! Builds well and if fairly good right from the box my friend.
So there was me thinking I could hold off on the urge to get a Kyosho and you go and pull this awesome video out the bag!! What a surprise that the Scorpion out performed the Ultima but your explanation makes complete sense. I suspect something similar out on the Orchard Raceway. Thanks for sharing dude and rock on 🤘🏻
You will love it my friend. Fairly easy to build and maximum fun to wheel. Will do great on your track! Rock on bud!
The 2.2 wheel/ soft tire combination helped the Turbo beat the Ultima , I agree. BITD racers in my area said trailing arm suspensions worked well on rough surfaces hence the minor popularity of trailing arm conversion kits for rc10s and Ultimas. I even tried a trailing arm Optima just to see what it was like.
Was all about the tires...I totally agree! The car is good...tires were better. The Ultima ships with junk front compound imo.
Awesome video, just came across your channel. Love the backyard track.
Thanks so much friend. Glad to have you aboard!
Another great vid and I really like the colour-scheme.
One factor that plays a role here is weight distribution. The Turbo Scorpion has the battery longitudinal. I have a Tomahawk and after I mounted a shorty longitudinal and increased the wheelbase to Turbo Scorpion-spec there was a totally different car. Almost no understeer.
Totally agree. The combo. of the hard tires and super light front of the Ultima is what makes it "slow" on our track. Fairly easy fix...unfortunately "mod runs" will need to wait until next season at this point. Appreciate it brother.
i recently returned to the hobby after a 30+ year break and immediately picked up a Turbo Scorpion and a Turbo Optima and jumped right into the Turbo Scorpion build. running it for 25-30 minutes after work before dark a few nights a week has really helped me unwind. it runs and handles well and is just the greatest looking buggy of all time. it looks ready to make a run down the Baja. a timeless classic.
That's awesome Steve. It's 100% on my recommendation list especially for a "vintage" RC person. Has a great mix of vintage with the durability of a newer kit. Plus it looks bad a*s!
Hi there and what a great Kyosho model, I remember in the middle 80’s my friends and had Tamiya’s and a friend got a Kyosho Ultima, just blew us away ! Even to this day, the Kyosho’s look good. I’ve yet to get a Kyosho and have the building and running pleasure. Enjoy my friend. Take care and best wishes to you all 😊😉😁
Thanks so much friend. The quality of the Kyosho Re-Re kits are second to none imo. You won't be disappointed with any of the choices out there. The Ultima would easily be track king with a set of tires and some weight.
I have to say the turbo scropion did pretty darn well. Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks bud. It did great for sure. I felt very confident hanging it out. If you look back at the video...you can see me reaching the track limits on the front straight on a few laps. Only thing it needs currently is more rear damping to stop it from bottoming out on landings. Awesome buggy!
Please keep these backyard videos coming I love them! The vintage cars are so nostalgic 😍
Thanks bud. Big plans for the summer!
It looks great, runs great, got a nice place on the time-board. Awesome video.
Thanks brother! Was all of the above plus!
Great video as usual. I want a Turbo Scorpion badly. :D
It's a fantastic kit! Thanks so much brother.
Looked great around the track, nice slow-mo at the end too ! 👍
Thanks bud. Love this buggy!
Keep the content coming you and your daughter have a great channel .
Thanks so much! Really appreciate the view and nice comment. Rock on my friend!
Great car, looks epic 😮, and some nice driving 👍
Thanks bud! Appreciate it. Was super fun to drive.
These are such awesome Buggies.. great video
Thanks bud! Agree and appreciated it. Have a great Thanksgiving 👍
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC happy thanksgiving to you guys too
Looks fantastic!😀👍
Thanks bud!
Love the '80;s vibe intro!
Thanks bud. Always trying to find little ways to spice up the videos.
Really appreciate the notice.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC And having watched the full video, amazed at the time! Just bought the Turbo Optima re-release and now thinking it needs a 2WD little brother! Subscribed!