At 10:16 you actually missed a key piece of the plan surrounding Evelyn's part of the Heist. Evelyn had no plan to sell the Relic to the Voodoo Boys - she was going to sell it to Netwatch and have them set her up with a new identity (presumably to hide from the pissed-off gang of super-hackers she just backstabbed). When you meet with the Netwatch Agent during the Voodoo Boys part of the main quest line, check the computer behind him and you can read Evelyn's correspondence with Netwatch to confirm this.
@inaban I imagine Evelyn's price was MUCH cheaper, and Yorinobu/Arasaka not being aware you have their chip is worth a lot in itself. I don't know for sure though I haven't read the correspondence
The VDB never intended to pay Evelyn, they didn't even call her by her name. They call her "the whore" when you drop her name. That speaks volumes, not to mention, they called V a "ranyon" and they're notorious for zeroing mercs when they're done with them.
Voodoo boys don't seem rich -- but they don't seem poor either, especially not when you see the basement in the church. They have cutting edge net gear, ICE and skills.
It's a common trope. Very well off or rich people projecting a more simple life. You see it in Gamorra memoirs, or in fiction in The Sopranos, The Wire, and other things. And Shamus starting point is wrong. The chicken doesn't come from the Voodoo Boys treasury. He just got a feeling for the thing, and went looking for a fact that seemed to fit his feeling.
As a tabletop rpg player and gamemaster, I really didn't like the video. It's probably the worst video/blog column I've seen from him, or at least remember over the many years I've read his articles. It feels very basic, 101, cheap, doesn't add anything, doesn't construct anything, had a few holes and big leap of logic, and so on. Really wasn't my thing. And I do this type of thinking several times a week, alone or with other people, on rpg stuff. I like it very much. Just not here.
It's also interesting to think about how a DM would reuse / repurpose already complete assets from the main story in some other way, if the heist had worked despite the DM's original expectations.
On the question what Dexter was trying to do, as far as I recall, he's in a conversation when you return to him after the failed heist, where he's securing himself a ticket so somewhere else to get our of town. I believe that's where he was caught, after dumping your corpse, as far as I understand his conversation with Takemura.
Placide didn't pay anyone with meat as far as i remember he basically just helped out from kindness (Lots of gangs do this to keep public relation up) also real meat is pretty rare in Night City because of animal mass killings after the disease outbreaks. I don't believe the Voodoo boys to be that poor, they have insanely expensive equipment and let's not forget they have managed to keep corps and police out of Pacifica for a long time, and that not only takes manpower but also money. They would still definitely not pay Evelyn though as there isn't really any downside to betraying her. Think the reason people may think they are poor is because Pacifica looks like a shithole, but i imagine it's kinda like Pablo Escobar in Colombia, a rich organization in a poor environment. Reason they don't help out with infrastructure and shit is because they are still a violent gang and still need to keep control with guns, intimidation and netrunning. May also be kinda a waste to build and repair when the stuff gets broken immediately by gang warfare or corp invasions anyway.
I ended up disliking the Voodoo Boys after dealing with them, but can't deny they're one of the most interesting factions in Night City. The impression I got is that the "true" Voodoo Boys are Brigitte and her net runner crew in their secret sanctuary. They're clearly world class experts at what they do with a huge amount of resources at their disposal. Meanwhile, the gang with the same name you see on the streets seems more like a bunch of dumb muscle they've recruited to act as a smoke screen for their true goals. The inner circle of the gang could definitely acquire "retirement for 5 people" levels of money with some effort and I don't think the amount of wealth we see around Pacifica or in the hands of their street goons contradicts that. However, I must agree with Shamus' point about how they'd definitely rather kill you and take the chip than pay up.
@@parokki The true brains of the gang is the netrunners yeah, but they definitely need lots of muscle to keep the corps from running them out of Pacifica. Yeah Voodoo boys seem extremely goal oriented with the most favorable outcome always chosen with no remorse in mind, so i also think they would rather kill when preferable, even if they had the money.
You missed a critical piece of the puzzle. Evelyn was not selling the chip to the voodoo boys. She was selling it to netwatch which is also what yorinobu was planning to do. If you kill the netwatch agent you will find out he was in contact with both of them with the plan to get the chip either way. Netwatch has far deeper pockets and its studies of rogue AI invading the blackwall would make them very interested in someone like alt who can serve as a guide which is coincidentally what the voodoo boys wanted as well. If that fails its at least another major ai removed from its many foes attempting to take down the blackwall. I think if V brought the chip to evelyn instead of Dex after the heist then she would contact netwatch to arrange for a deal. Netwatch would in turn smuggle evelyn out of nightcity as she is wanted by both arasaka and the voodoo boys. Dex would basically leave night city and straight up vanish. That would leave V who would likely strike a deal with netwatch to serve as one of their new undercover agents on the field. In essence, V would have a new fixer now in the form of netwatch. In addition there would be many quests that netwatch would be interested in data V collected ie Perralez family brainwash, nightcorp brain manipulation agi, bartmoss body, the scavs dorsette knockout chip, militech/maelstrom fight, and a host of other things V encounters while exploring night city. No doubt V would be center stage for the voodoo boys attack only it would be different as V would act as a ploy to bring V into their headquarters to get the chip in his head. Then they would strike with the animals leading the attack outside while V infects the voodoo boys servers from within. V would probably be one of Netwatch's best agents as they mention him with a lot of praise if you help to take down the voodoo boys in normal play. The only problem is judy would never know what happened to evelyn so she would still be stuck making XBDs. Panam would never get her car back nor the cargo she would be likely stuck in nightcity with no job or income which can be a death sentence. She would also watch helplessly as saul was kidnapped and eventually her clan was wiped out by the scavs. She would likely never meet V as V would have no need for Hellman who would sell his knowledge the Kang Tao thus never ending up in Takamura's hands. Without V, Takamura would try to get honako's help only to die. Honako would still do nothing and thus watch as yorinobu would eventually break apart arasaka from within.
16:35 Dex was indeed trying to leave town. If you don’t go in the bathroom and listen to what he says, he makes a call to someone supposedly from Orbital Air for a one way ticket out of NC. He was planning to just dump you in the landfill and dip before it caught up to him. Evidently that failed miserably.
Forgot which conversation states this, but Evelyn planned to sell it to Netwatch. Maybe I misremembered some stuff but Yorinobu also plan to negotiate with Netwatch to unleash Alt against Arasaka.
Huh. Is that so? Anyways, if the heist were to work, and Evelyn were to sell Mr. Anderson to Netwatch, there's still a high chance that she would be tracked down and brainfried by the Voodoo Boys. And there's little guarantee that they wouldn't go after Dexter, T-bug, and perhaps even Jackie and V. Assuming Arasaka does not get to them first.
@@roadent217 It is indeed so and it is the only way it makes sense. There is NO way Evelyn would think she alone can outsmart the Vodoo Boys even if the heist was successful, as the video says, they would have prolly fried her ass and take the chip by force. It makes a lot more sense that she had an agreement with the one organization that can stand up against the Vodoo Boys on their digital turf, Netwatch. They could protect Evelyn in exchange for the chip. Of course it is entirely possible NW would still screw her over, but at least it is a viable possibility and something I believe Evelyn would do
Instead of pointing out the same ‘Evelyn was selling to Netwatch’ thing, I will say, we don’t know if Jackie would never get along with Johnny. It’s heavily implied that V and Johnny rub off on each other the longer they spend together. So, it’s very possible they’d become chooms, it’d just take a while, same as it was with V and Johnny.
"and t-bug uses her super hacker skills to do absolutely nothing" what is T supposed to do? Adam smasher enters the room, so can't do anything after, and the two Arasaka heads were RIGHT there
To be fair, my max level V ended the story by just walking in the front door (ala Matrix lobby scene) alone and single-handedly killed everybody. So it's only a bad plan if you suck, like V at level 1.
while the game isn't pristine it's one of the few games where most of the side content is nigh undistinguishable from the main story in terms of quality and care put into it. To the point even some minor gigs have interesting ideas put forth and memorable moments. Still a great game, too bad way too many people just default to repeat the same laundry list of flaws they heard from the latest viral video instead of judging what's there. The real problem of this game is that no one seems to be objective when discussing it
Hard to be objective when you’ve been lied to, the problem with this game is CDPR spent more time telling us what it wasn’t than telling it what it was...I enjoyed the game but yeah my guards up from now on with these guys
At the start of this video I thought I was going to really dislike it, but... I'm glad I stuck around. I agree with your analysis of Dexter, and of what would have happened if Evelyn had gone back to the Voodoo Boys on her own with the chip. The Voodoo Boys are seriously bad juju. I think they probably *could* have delivered the money that Evelyn hoped for, because there is at least the implication they can hack more or less anything; but I agree with you that it's really unlikely that they would have felt any need to pay her, since they clearly didn't see any need to pay V for getting rid of the NetWatch agent. But, assuming the chip is in V's head, then V and Evelyn going back to the Voodoo Boys together yields two possibilities: 1. The Voodoo Boys do attempt to kill V (and perhaps Evelyn) to get the Relic, but that triggers the chip's resurrection function, and the game plays out from there more or less as it would from the end of "I Walk the Line" (except you'd have to do something different to contact Alt - and that means finding someone else with access to the Black Wall); 2. The Voodoo Boys don't attempt to kill either V or Evelyn (at least not yet), in which case you go straight into Transmission (and maybe do I Walk the Line later, or skip it altogether). But @Levaris is right that Evelyn wasn't planning to go back to the Voodoo Boys. She was planning to go to NetWatch, who do have the money, and who also have access to the Black Wall through which you can reach Alt - but who definitely would not aid you to get through it, so there would have to be interesting new plot there. On this path, NetWatch would probably take the Voodoo Boys out. So after The Heist (if successful) you could have a meeting with Evelyn at which you could persuade her to go to the Voodoo Boys with the Relic, or accept her plan to go to NetWatch with it. Either way you get to the Black Wall and the encounter with Alt, but on the NetWatch path you need someone other than Brigitte to get you through the Black Wall - which could be T-Bug, but she'd have to be a much better hacker, but it could also be Spider Murphy who might still be alive and still be in touch with Rogue. Murphy would be an interesting character, I think. This gives you a lot more interesting branching in the middle of the plot without making any major changes to the final end paths, so it plausibly could be retrofitted into the game as an expansion. I don't think the 'Relic is in Jackie's head' idea works, from a game/narrative point of view, because then the player would never see Johnny, so even if you could get Jackie through The Heist alive - and I'd *really* liked that, when I first played I redid The Heist three times before I realised there was no way to save him - you'd need to get the Relic into V's head. I disagree with you about T-Bug. She's obviously not the uber-hacker that Dexter claims she is (but neither are is V the uber-merc who Dexter pretends to Evelyn that V is), but I think she's an interesting character who could have been developed further. It would be good to be able to save Jackie, T-Bug and Evelyn. It should probably be pretty hard to manage all three, so you get a real feeling of accomplishment if you pull it off, but it would be good and I don't see that it would hurt the rest of the game that much. There are a lot more badly underused characters in this game. Victor Vector, Lizzie Wizzie, Regina Jones (the whole 'save the cyberpsychos' thing just fades out in a completely unresolved way. It's really broken that you can't pass Rose Horrigan on to Regina's scheme, and it's frustrating that you never find out what happens to all those cyberpsychos you kept alive), loads more.
11:20 isn't a chicken (as in real meat in a cyberpunk world where the fare is usually soy/algae/solyent green based) a luxury, making it rather valuable as a mean of exchange (if not very fungible)? I haven't played the game though, maybe there's enormous chicken farms just outside the city.
Even if people normally eat things like soy, feeding some chickens in a cage wouldn't be too difficult. Sure, you lose about 90% of the energy for every link in a food chain, but that just means chicken costs ten times as much as your normal soy food. Expensive, but not nearly as expensive as all of the metal gear and cyberware on display in that chicken-paying scene.
@@AileTheAlien the issue is that in Cyberpunk's America, food corporations spend massive sums of money developing tailored bioweapons to wipe out the others' crops. This is postulated on a conspiracy radio show you can catch, but I suspect the implication is this is true, and of course the great plagues *did* actually happen. In River's quest you also see how cattle were kept years ago back before they had all died - in hoods, being constantly fed food and drugs from a tube. Real livestock is probably outlawed, more than simply being rare, due to fear of disease.
It's not chicken. It looks like a leg of pork. Whatever, it looks like real meat - bloody - and that's really luxury stuff in Night City. So handing over a joint of real meat that would make a good meal for six people is actually quite a high value gift.
9:05 plus V is considerably wealthy by the time he reaches Placide!!! At least my V anyway. Jackie is very reminiscent of Minsc from the original Baldur's Gate, which made me just love him as the best character other than V in the game.
If the heist worked we probably would have gotten a better game. Also Evelyn was planning to sell to Netwatch, but she also wanted a new identity, so she was probably going to run with the money.
I beat the game twice on my Xbox s with the biggest bug being my car not coming. I dont care about the bugs, i care about all the stuff that isnt in the game.
@@charlesbronson240 Thats good you were able to have fun. But honestly the bugs at that level is unnaceptable and consumers deserve better. Not gonna hate on anyone's fun though if it doesn't harm anyone.
@Caleb Imrie have you played it yourself? Did you play it on console? Are you aware that people outside of your specific restricted viewpoint exist and have subjective tastes? Are you aware that while the memes and jokes and manufactured outrage are incredibly good clickbait, it isn't actually a universal experience? Or that it is possible to still really love and enjoy flawed products? Maybe there is no objective line, after all metal gear solid 5 is literally unfinished, Skyrim is filled with bugs, and both of those are incredibly lauded by rote? Just something to think about. If you personally had a bad experience and didn't enjoy anything about it's gameplay or plot or whatever, alright, I respect your opinion. But is it really just your opinion? Or did you get some of it from hearing others say the same thing, and being convinced?
Can I play YOUR version of the game. Specifically, I think the first option sounds best, as it offers a lot of divergence in choice. I'd also love to see the Jackie Wells version. It could be a cool way to explore a character arc, something like Life Is Strange, but sci-fi. Also, the heist is easily the best level in the game. I want more of that, and not more of what we got.
Agreed, it's really been off putting as of late, but it also shows the agenda of alot of these UA-camrs and what they'd do for clicks, some of these channels are really good at pivoting from hype to hate in an instant
I wasn't too fazed with bugs in the Cyberpunk 2077 game. The game crashed twice in 120 hours, and while there were lots of small graphical glitches and odd behaviours every now and then, they didn't ever block progress. It's not the worst buggy game I've played, in fact the original Tomb Raider from 1996 had this little nice feature/bug that suddenly hard-locked my computer at the time, and rebooting corrupted the windows 95 installation, forcing a reinstall. Fallout 3 had this nice little effect that whenever I opened the pip-boy, it would crash the game.
Well, Cyberpunk 2077 the video game was based on and heavily influenced by the creator of Cyberpunk 2020, the paper role playing game (like D&D). It was probably script with that sort of flexibility in mind, in fact very early information and play throughs suggested such a dramatic branching storyline, which is more common in paper RPGs rather than computer RPGs, which tend to be a lot more linear. It's been suggested that CP2077 was originally designed to not have Johnny Silverhand as an interactive NPC. The basic may have originally been get rich / powerful or rule a corpo / gang / nomad society. It all might have been shifted to a more linear style play with Johnny Reeves joining the development.
I now want to see a mod of this game where they change Johnny Silver's voice lines with Jonathan Harker's. _"Wake the fuck up, samurai. I know where the bastard sleeps."_
Very late, but in Cyberpunk Red's terms, its almost as if T-bug is not a netruner class (which can hack terminals woth simple actions, since they interface at net level), but a simple mercenary which sits at the computer, so they need literal hours for things that can be done in minutes through a netrunner interface. Just some nice headcannon.
Nice video, captured the story nice. It would be so cool, if there would be THIS MUCH stuff you could actually do in game. What replayability it would have ... especially finding out what stuff you can do and not do!
Evelyn wanted to sell the relic to the Netwatch, not the VDB. There is mails backing this up, in agents computer in the plaza. Also, the relic would have never saved Jackie. He was bleeding out anyway relic activated or not. The chip saved V because the fatal wound was close the the brain where the chip was too, and it was caused by a small caliber pistol. That theory was busted early after the games release.
I have a theory that the chip would not have worked the same for Jackie as it would have for V. I forget which terminal it is, but the relics documentation states that the transfer of the engram, at its best, works only until AFTER the subject has died. After that, the engram essentially reboots the host and does a full take over of all neural function, thus turning that person into whomever the engram was pulled from. If Jackie had died from his wounds in the car, the chip would have activated and rewrote his entire consciousness. At this point, Jackie no longer exists. It would have been Johnny Silverhand, fully inhabiting what was once Jackie’s body. You wouldn’t have the funny, lovable, ruthless and loyal friend that you once had. The difference between Jackie and V, is that V suffered a very traumatic brain injury as a result from being shot in the head by Dexter, causing an adverse reaction to his connection with the chip. V never truly died, so his neural activity didn’t completely cease. The chip had a problem functioning as designed because it’s supposed to do so in an environment where neural activity was completely absent so that it could do its job on a “blank canvas”. Johnnys engram ran into a tangled web of f*ckery which is why V suffers the majority of the game; being literally rewritten as he lives and breathes. That’s a hell I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
I like this discussion, makes you think about how huge this game would have been. If it had all the rpg choices they said would be there. Imagine, you successfully stole the engram. And sold Johnny off like he never existed. Then sided with netwatch and destroyed all the rouge AI´s? Alt Cunningham boss battle? There are so many things... :(
I appreciate your poking at other directions the story could have gone, as you did with Mass Effect: Andromeda on your blog. I haven't played the game (Shadowrun is my preferred blend of cyberpunk), but I think Jackie keeping the chip could have still worked with Keanu Silverhand. Surely to the writers could have come up with some technobabble to have to tie V into his sensory information for survival's sake. Then you can have three-way conversations with the superstar and your chummer, while keeping the player character as the boots on the ground.
I understand the desire to confine a character to a given gender for the purpose of discussion unrelated to their gender, as it just makes sense in the brain to not think about several possibilities. But did you notice how "Vee" sounds so similar to both "He" and "She", and is not at all longer? So i did a bit of a mental search-and-replace in this video and it seems to me, that just saying "V" in place of each pronoun referring to V, while a little more repetitive than ideal, actually makes the script clearer, as any potential confusion with other characters disappears, and not any more cumbersome to listen to. Just my opinion. I think this was the intention to begin with, so they can do a lot of "Vee" in the actual voiced game script and wouldn't have to re-record a lot of He/She lines, as they'd have to do if the character had a more elaborate name.
Nice. I like your theorycrafting here. But I do want to add one more possibility. As you said, Evelyn was smart and ambitious. It's possible she had lined up another buyer for the chip. Probably wouldn't have changed much for her since the Voodoo Boys would likely have found out anyways. But in this scenario, V & crew still get paid. And the game lasts all of about 10 minutes.
I actually think that the storylines and writing of the game itself is so very well done for a video game. Shame that the writers' work is left behind due to all of the bugs and issues that get in the way.
A while back I was going to play Cyberpunk, even after the disaster launch, but then I found out Jackie died, and that killed any desire to play the game. I would have stomached all the bugs if 2077 was 'The adventures of Jackie and V"
The real question is, what if V didn’t take the shard and left it in Jackie. Would Jackie then reboot and the point of the story is to try and save Jackie or decide you love the rocker boy life and want Johnny to take over. Now there is a fun story.
Great job on pointing out some praiseworthy positives of the game against the backdrop of the malcontented mimetic meme mob. As an aside, I must have had some god graced PC copy of the game as I had very few noticeable bugs (though I found the game poorly balanced in most aspects) - nothing too disrupting to simply forget about immediately. Very lucky I guess!
Yeah, T-But struck a nerve with me, so I wasn't super sad when she got bumped off, just because to me she was a bit of a jerk. Now my boy Jackie, his death hurt, I love his personality, the couple jokes he made were funny, he was like the friend you never had.
Man, this video is so well done, but is so worthless in the end, because of few poorly informed assumptions. First, why the hell do you think Evelyn was going to sell the chip back to VDBs that hired her to scroll the suite? Doesn't make any sense? She was negotiating to sell Relic to NetWatch, and those wanted it to use it in the same way VDBs did - as a lure to capture Alt Cunningham. Something you deemed to be non-relevant detail to mention. And believe me, NetWatch, being a corporation, did have those money to pay for Relic. It is evident from few Evelyn's emails with them. Initially, it was Yorinobu who negotiated to sell it to NetWatch, but Evelyn decided to beat him to it. This is also why Silverhand, of all engrams was present on the chip - because NetWatch asked for Silverhand, not for Relic itself. Second, Jackie would never survive with a wound like that just because he had Relic in. I mean, V himself isn't immortal, despite having Relic in his head at all time. It isn't some magic resurrector, it's not how it works. Jackie simply bled out, and there was no way for Biochip to prevent that. Biochip is equipped with nanomachines, whose purpose is to reconfigure your synaptic connections of your neurons to house engram stored on the chip. Just so that you could "talk" to it, just like you talk to yourself in your soughts. Alternatively, they are able to "overwrite" your brain with engram copy completely, as was intended by "Secure you Soul" program, and what Saburo does to his son in The Devil ending. This is what basically happened, when V got shot to his/her head. Nanomachines started to repair neuron damage, but they did so by writing Silverhand's psyche over V's intact brain cells. Third, yes, Arasaka would catch up on Dexter anyway, because he tried to leave the city via Orbital Air Space Center and booked a ticket on his name, as he talked about it in your presence (you've paid so much attention to the game, did you?). He was careless and underestimated Goro Takemura's ability to connect the dots and trace him quickly. So best case scenario whould be to steal Relic in time, leave the Hotel before lockdown, ditch Dexter and deliver chip directly to Evelyn, lay low as Arasaka searches for thieves, while Evelyn is selling the chip to NetWatch, then get paid and retire. Yorinobu didn't even had a strong need to search for missing biochip after killing his father, so it would probably be even relatively safe to stay in NC afterwards.
I think Jackie bled out rather than take brain damage. I am not sure the chip would have saved him. As for succeeding, Yorinobu killing Saburo seemed impulsive. If we had gotten out before then, it may have never come to that. The biochip is Saburo's play at immortality. That might have been worse than what happened. We are lucky that Yorinobu doesn't really care all that much about the chip.
Wasn't Eve gonna sell it to NetWatch from the beginning? Like, Nob-u was gonna sell it to them as well, and she got the info from him. She'd still die, cuz NetWatch has no reason not to sell her out, but at least she'd have the cash for a while then.
Despite cyberpunk 77 being immensely referenced, memed and joked about, the number of people that actually played it to know the details of the plot is much lower so....
calm down bootlicker, cdpr isnt going to hire you. average game, average story, some high points, more low point. you dont have to stick you hand on a stove to know its hot. non-sequitur harder pleb
the problem with this is that in the world of cyberpunk corporations are literally more powerful than governments and hold more. suburo Arasaka is literally one of the most powerful people on earth. and yes i mean more important than the president. im sure at this point the president dying is even going to make the it to the local news.
"T-Bug sucks" Dude imagine you're trying to put a hole in the wall of a supermax prison without anyone noticing, and it takes you less than four hours. Quickhacks are like dynamite: Effective but obvious, and if you draw any attention down on yourself you're about to find everyone within your post code dropping their own sticks down on your head. The kind of hacking she's doing is like getting through a brick wall with a power drill. The fact that you don't understand something basic like "hacking large systems is comically dangerous and requires keeping dozens of plates spinning for hours on end" is kinda disappointing.
bro what I really wanna is what would happen if General grievous was their, like think about it He would fit Right in. Or someone like say Neo was in their universe.
I didn't consider this "what if?" - thanks! I know the game had a really really rough start (i was disappointed by its state - nevertheless I finished the game twice in December that year they released it :D) but at very least CDPR stuck to this game and fixed it up plus they added Phantom Liberty. ¿Have you played it?
hey, vampire the masquerade bloodlines was a hot mess on launch too, also thanks to corporate buggery. perhaps in the next decade or so, the cyberpunk would be the next generation's vtmb. one can only hope.
hey friend i had a question i dont see in no place in youtube or the wiki , in the fail at the heist they say they will put ninjas after us and we are just like dead man walking but in game after we escape from that robots we just back to our appartament and no one come to kill us or do something even after we blow up the event in the middle of the night city the police dont give a fuck if you aproach them same for arasaka guys we dont even try to hide we just back to the same room and sleep
Imagine if they had more time. I honestly believe that they ran out of time on the story which is why many of the characters that V extensively have flimsy story arcs.
I would have liked any story that didn't have me stuck dealing with that jerk Johnny Silverhand at all. I would have been happy with the original Maxtac/cyberpsyco story line the game was supposed to have.
At 10:16 you actually missed a key piece of the plan surrounding Evelyn's part of the Heist. Evelyn had no plan to sell the Relic to the Voodoo Boys - she was going to sell it to Netwatch and have them set her up with a new identity (presumably to hide from the pissed-off gang of super-hackers she just backstabbed). When you meet with the Netwatch Agent during the Voodoo Boys part of the main quest line, check the computer behind him and you can read Evelyn's correspondence with Netwatch to confirm this.
Wow, I didn't knew that. Awesome piece of information bro
@inaban I imagine Evelyn's price was MUCH cheaper, and Yorinobu/Arasaka not being aware you have their chip is worth a lot in itself. I don't know for sure though I haven't read the correspondence
@@ernstschloss8794 yeah, if you hack flacids/VDB comp too, youll find out that they were bastards to her too and did not reply to emails
The VDB never intended to pay Evelyn, they didn't even call her by her name. They call her "the whore" when you drop her name. That speaks volumes, not to mention, they called V a "ranyon" and they're notorious for zeroing mercs when they're done with them.
They are a more religious faction than the Valentinos
"He averaged one John a year" is such an unexpected and satisfying sentence.
That would be a very inefficient sex worker.
You forgot to include Neo from the Matrix...
@@taiwanluthiers He's called Thomas.
The reason why the VDB paying with a chicken is seen as "too much" is because in the cyberpunk universe actual animals are extremely rare
Wow, Keanu really plays a lot of characters named Johnny like he has that in the contracts when he signed on a movie.
Johnny is to Keanu what Carlos is to Noel Albert Gugliemi, also known to google as "actor who always plays a Carlos".
@@falfires
He plays Hector
Voodoo boys don't seem rich -- but they don't seem poor either, especially not when you see the basement in the church. They have cutting edge net gear, ICE and skills.
I doubt some of the best hackers in a near totally digital world are struggling for money.
It's a common trope. Very well off or rich people projecting a more simple life. You see it in Gamorra memoirs, or in fiction in The Sopranos, The Wire, and other things.
And Shamus starting point is wrong. The chicken doesn't come from the Voodoo Boys treasury. He just got a feeling for the thing, and went looking for a fact that seemed to fit his feeling.
well, you wouldn't expect a run down church in pacifica to house all that in-house gear. they don't wanna attract attention.
They made a big deal about the chicken being likely very expensive contraband.
As an avid D&D gamemaster, this is exactly the type of "what if...?" that I love. Great video.
As a tabletop rpg player and gamemaster, I really didn't like the video. It's probably the worst video/blog column I've seen from him, or at least remember over the many years I've read his articles. It feels very basic, 101, cheap, doesn't add anything, doesn't construct anything, had a few holes and big leap of logic, and so on. Really wasn't my thing.
And I do this type of thinking several times a week, alone or with other people, on rpg stuff. I like it very much. Just not here.
It's also interesting to think about how a DM would reuse / repurpose already complete assets from the main story in some other way, if the heist had worked despite the DM's original expectations.
@@LiraeNoirrelax
On the question what Dexter was trying to do, as far as I recall, he's in a conversation when you return to him after the failed heist, where he's securing himself a ticket so somewhere else to get our of town. I believe that's where he was caught, after dumping your corpse, as far as I understand his conversation with Takemura.
U got Jackie pulling an invisible chip out of his head, I got Jackie pulling a giant pistol out of his head in place of the biochip
Placide didn't pay anyone with meat as far as i remember he basically just helped out from kindness (Lots of gangs do this to keep public relation up) also real meat is pretty rare in Night City because of animal mass killings after the disease outbreaks.
I don't believe the Voodoo boys to be that poor, they have insanely expensive equipment and let's not forget they have managed to keep corps and police out of Pacifica for a long time, and that not only takes manpower but also money. They would still definitely not pay Evelyn though as there isn't really any downside to betraying her. Think the reason people may think they are poor is because Pacifica looks like a shithole, but i imagine it's kinda like Pablo Escobar in Colombia, a rich organization in a poor environment. Reason they don't help out with infrastructure and shit is because they are still a violent gang and still need to keep control with guns, intimidation and netrunning. May also be kinda a waste to build and repair when the stuff gets broken immediately by gang warfare or corp invasions anyway.
Good insight. You might be right.
I ended up disliking the Voodoo Boys after dealing with them, but can't deny they're one of the most interesting factions in Night City. The impression I got is that the "true" Voodoo Boys are Brigitte and her net runner crew in their secret sanctuary. They're clearly world class experts at what they do with a huge amount of resources at their disposal. Meanwhile, the gang with the same name you see on the streets seems more like a bunch of dumb muscle they've recruited to act as a smoke screen for their true goals. The inner circle of the gang could definitely acquire "retirement for 5 people" levels of money with some effort and I don't think the amount of wealth we see around Pacifica or in the hands of their street goons contradicts that. However, I must agree with Shamus' point about how they'd definitely rather kill you and take the chip than pay up.
@@parokki The true brains of the gang is the netrunners yeah, but they definitely need lots of muscle to keep the corps from running them out of Pacifica.
Yeah Voodoo boys seem extremely goal oriented with the most favorable outcome always chosen with no remorse in mind, so i also think they would rather kill when preferable, even if they had the money.
You missed a critical piece of the puzzle. Evelyn was not selling the chip to the voodoo boys. She was selling it to netwatch which is also what yorinobu was planning to do. If you kill the netwatch agent you will find out he was in contact with both of them with the plan to get the chip either way. Netwatch has far deeper pockets and its studies of rogue AI invading the blackwall would make them very interested in someone like alt who can serve as a guide which is coincidentally what the voodoo boys wanted as well. If that fails its at least another major ai removed from its many foes attempting to take down the blackwall. I think if V brought the chip to evelyn instead of Dex after the heist then she would contact netwatch to arrange for a deal. Netwatch would in turn smuggle evelyn out of nightcity as she is wanted by both arasaka and the voodoo boys. Dex would basically leave night city and straight up vanish. That would leave V who would likely strike a deal with netwatch to serve as one of their new undercover agents on the field. In essence, V would have a new fixer now in the form of netwatch. In addition there would be many quests that netwatch would be interested in data V collected ie Perralez family brainwash, nightcorp brain manipulation agi, bartmoss body, the scavs dorsette knockout chip, militech/maelstrom fight, and a host of other things V encounters while exploring night city. No doubt V would be center stage for the voodoo boys attack only it would be different as V would act as a ploy to bring V into their headquarters to get the chip in his head. Then they would strike with the animals leading the attack outside while V infects the voodoo boys servers from within. V would probably be one of Netwatch's best agents as they mention him with a lot of praise if you help to take down the voodoo boys in normal play. The only problem is judy would never know what happened to evelyn so she would still be stuck making XBDs. Panam would never get her car back nor the cargo she would be likely stuck in nightcity with no job or income which can be a death sentence. She would also watch helplessly as saul was kidnapped and eventually her clan was wiped out by the scavs. She would likely never meet V as V would have no need for Hellman who would sell his knowledge the Kang Tao thus never ending up in Takamura's hands. Without V, Takamura would try to get honako's help only to die. Honako would still do nothing and thus watch as yorinobu would eventually break apart arasaka from within.
16:35 Dex was indeed trying to leave town. If you don’t go in the bathroom and listen to what he says, he makes a call to someone supposedly from Orbital Air for a one way ticket out of NC. He was planning to just dump you in the landfill and dip before it caught up to him.
Evidently that failed miserably.
Forgot which conversation states this, but Evelyn planned to sell it to Netwatch. Maybe I misremembered some stuff but Yorinobu also plan to negotiate with Netwatch to unleash Alt against Arasaka.
Huh. Is that so?
Anyways, if the heist were to work, and Evelyn were to sell Mr. Anderson to Netwatch, there's still a high chance that she would be tracked down and brainfried by the Voodoo Boys. And there's little guarantee that they wouldn't go after Dexter, T-bug, and perhaps even Jackie and V. Assuming Arasaka does not get to them first.
@@roadent217 The chip could be the reason why Anderson is watching the vdb's so closely then too.
@@roadent217 It is indeed so and it is the only way it makes sense. There is NO way Evelyn would think she alone can outsmart the Vodoo Boys even if the heist was successful, as the video says, they would have prolly fried her ass and take the chip by force. It makes a lot more sense that she had an agreement with the one organization that can stand up against the Vodoo Boys on their digital turf, Netwatch. They could protect Evelyn in exchange for the chip. Of course it is entirely possible NW would still screw her over, but at least it is a viable possibility and something I believe Evelyn would do
Instead of pointing out the same ‘Evelyn was selling to Netwatch’ thing, I will say, we don’t know if Jackie would never get along with Johnny. It’s heavily implied that V and Johnny rub off on each other the longer they spend together. So, it’s very possible they’d become chooms, it’d just take a while, same as it was with V and Johnny.
"and t-bug uses her super hacker skills to do absolutely nothing" what is T supposed to do? Adam smasher enters the room, so can't do anything after, and the two Arasaka heads were RIGHT there
RIP Shamus
I thought it was pretty clear Dex tried to deliver V to Arasaka to save his own skin.
To be fair, my max level V ended the story by just walking in the front door (ala Matrix lobby scene) alone and single-handedly killed everybody. So it's only a bad plan if you suck, like V at level 1.
while the game isn't pristine it's one of the few games where most of the side content is nigh undistinguishable from the main story in terms of quality and care put into it. To the point even some minor gigs have interesting ideas put forth and memorable moments.
Still a great game, too bad way too many people just default to repeat the same laundry list of flaws they heard from the latest viral video instead of judging what's there. The real problem of this game is that no one seems to be objective when discussing it
Hard to be objective when you’ve been lied to, the problem with this game is CDPR spent more time telling us what it wasn’t than telling it what it was...I enjoyed the game but yeah my guards up from now on with these guys
@@w.t.dproductions8255 and the fact you're okay with that is funny.
Everyone was objective about this trash
At the start of this video I thought I was going to really dislike it, but... I'm glad I stuck around.
I agree with your analysis of Dexter, and of what would have happened if Evelyn had gone back to the Voodoo Boys on her own with the chip. The Voodoo Boys are seriously bad juju. I think they probably *could* have delivered the money that Evelyn hoped for, because there is at least the implication they can hack more or less anything; but I agree with you that it's really unlikely that they would have felt any need to pay her, since they clearly didn't see any need to pay V for getting rid of the NetWatch agent.
But, assuming the chip is in V's head, then V and Evelyn going back to the Voodoo Boys together yields two possibilities:
1. The Voodoo Boys do attempt to kill V (and perhaps Evelyn) to get the Relic, but that triggers the chip's resurrection function, and the game plays out from there more or less as it would from the end of "I Walk the Line" (except you'd have to do something different to contact Alt - and that means finding someone else with access to the Black Wall);
2. The Voodoo Boys don't attempt to kill either V or Evelyn (at least not yet), in which case you go straight into Transmission (and maybe do I Walk the Line later, or skip it altogether).
But @Levaris is right that Evelyn wasn't planning to go back to the Voodoo Boys. She was planning to go to NetWatch, who do have the money, and who also have access to the Black Wall through which you can reach Alt - but who definitely would not aid you to get through it, so there would have to be interesting new plot there. On this path, NetWatch would probably take the Voodoo Boys out.
So after The Heist (if successful) you could have a meeting with Evelyn at which you could persuade her to go to the Voodoo Boys with the Relic, or accept her plan to go to NetWatch with it. Either way you get to the Black Wall and the encounter with Alt, but on the NetWatch path you need someone other than Brigitte to get you through the Black Wall - which could be T-Bug, but she'd have to be a much better hacker, but it could also be Spider Murphy who might still be alive and still be in touch with Rogue. Murphy would be an interesting character, I think.
This gives you a lot more interesting branching in the middle of the plot without making any major changes to the final end paths, so it plausibly could be retrofitted into the game as an expansion.
I don't think the 'Relic is in Jackie's head' idea works, from a game/narrative point of view, because then the player would never see Johnny, so even if you could get Jackie through The Heist alive - and I'd *really* liked that, when I first played I redid The Heist three times before I realised there was no way to save him - you'd need to get the Relic into V's head.
I disagree with you about T-Bug. She's obviously not the uber-hacker that Dexter claims she is (but neither are is V the uber-merc who Dexter pretends to Evelyn that V is), but I think she's an interesting character who could have been developed further.
It would be good to be able to save Jackie, T-Bug and Evelyn. It should probably be pretty hard to manage all three, so you get a real feeling of accomplishment if you pull it off, but it would be good and I don't see that it would hurt the rest of the game that much.
There are a lot more badly underused characters in this game. Victor Vector, Lizzie Wizzie, Regina Jones (the whole 'save the cyberpsychos' thing just fades out in a completely unresolved way. It's really broken that you can't pass Rose Horrigan on to Regina's scheme, and it's frustrating that you never find out what happens to all those cyberpsychos you kept alive), loads more.
Adored the Johnny gag.
RIP Shaun. You were one of the best!
What?
11:20 isn't a chicken (as in real meat in a cyberpunk world where the fare is usually soy/algae/solyent green based) a luxury, making it rather valuable as a mean of exchange (if not very fungible)? I haven't played the game though, maybe there's enormous chicken farms just outside the city.
Even if people normally eat things like soy, feeding some chickens in a cage wouldn't be too difficult. Sure, you lose about 90% of the energy for every link in a food chain, but that just means chicken costs ten times as much as your normal soy food. Expensive, but not nearly as expensive as all of the metal gear and cyberware on display in that chicken-paying scene.
@@AileTheAlien the issue is that in Cyberpunk's America, food corporations spend massive sums of money developing tailored bioweapons to wipe out the others' crops. This is postulated on a conspiracy radio show you can catch, but I suspect the implication is this is true, and of course the great plagues *did* actually happen. In River's quest you also see how cattle were kept years ago back before they had all died - in hoods, being constantly fed food and drugs from a tube. Real livestock is probably outlawed, more than simply being rare, due to fear of disease.
It's not chicken. It looks like a leg of pork. Whatever, it looks like real meat - bloody - and that's really luxury stuff in Night City. So handing over a joint of real meat that would make a good meal for six people is actually quite a high value gift.
Weren’t all birds banned in NC after the avian flu and extermination, making chickens illegal?
If they release Cyberpunk 2077: the Jackie Welles version as DLC, they can go ahead and plan on getting my money.
9:05 plus V is considerably wealthy by the time he reaches Placide!!! At least my V anyway.
Jackie is very reminiscent of Minsc from the original Baldur's Gate, which made me just love him as the best character other than V in the game.
Typolice: "I love *to* think about this game more than I love playing it"
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Sir, immediately drop the „to“ into its appropriate place above!
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Can you explain why "to think," is more appropriate than "thinking"?
if you had more time with your crew people would have cared more but Jackie should have had more of a backstory.
Great video. As someone who just stopped playing the game because I wasnt having fun with the gameplay, I was still able to follow this.
If the heist worked we probably would have gotten a better game. Also Evelyn was planning to sell to Netwatch, but she also wanted a new identity, so she was probably going to run with the money.
When i first clicked on this i thought the heist was referring to cd projekt red trying to swindle console players.
Honestly? Same
I beat the game twice on my Xbox s with the biggest bug being my car not coming. I dont care about the bugs, i care about all the stuff that isnt in the game.
@@charlesbronson240 Thats good you were able to have fun. But honestly the bugs at that level is unnaceptable and consumers deserve better. Not gonna hate on anyone's fun though if it doesn't harm anyone.
I thought it had to do with the source code leak
I really loved this game.
@Caleb Imrie have you played it yourself? Did you play it on console?
Are you aware that people outside of your specific restricted viewpoint exist and have subjective tastes?
Are you aware that while the memes and jokes and manufactured outrage are incredibly good clickbait, it isn't actually a universal experience? Or that it is possible to still really love and enjoy flawed products?
Maybe there is no objective line, after all metal gear solid 5 is literally unfinished, Skyrim is filled with bugs, and both of those are incredibly lauded by rote?
Just something to think about. If you personally had a bad experience and didn't enjoy anything about it's gameplay or plot or whatever, alright, I respect your opinion. But is it really just your opinion? Or did you get some of it from hearing others say the same thing, and being convinced?
@Caleb Imrie you haven't played it, kindly fuck off
Can I play YOUR version of the game. Specifically, I think the first option sounds best, as it offers a lot of divergence in choice. I'd also love to see the Jackie Wells version. It could be a cool way to explore a character arc, something like Life Is Strange, but sci-fi.
Also, the heist is easily the best level in the game. I want more of that, and not more of what we got.
I much preffer this type of video over "CD Projekt Red made mistakes" since there are a lot of those out there
People know what gets clicks.
Agreed, it's really been off putting as of late, but it also shows the agenda of alot of these UA-camrs and what they'd do for clicks, some of these channels are really good at pivoting from hype to hate in an instant
@@chillhour6155 kinda easy when the game you been hyped for years turns out to be a pile a crap
I wasn't too fazed with bugs in the Cyberpunk 2077 game. The game crashed twice in 120 hours, and while there were lots of small graphical glitches and odd behaviours every now and then, they didn't ever block progress. It's not the worst buggy game I've played, in fact the original Tomb Raider from 1996 had this little nice feature/bug that suddenly hard-locked my computer at the time, and rebooting corrupted the windows 95 installation, forcing a reinstall. Fallout 3 had this nice little effect that whenever I opened the pip-boy, it would crash the game.
holy crappola.
Well, Cyberpunk 2077 the video game was based on and heavily influenced by the creator of Cyberpunk 2020, the paper role playing game (like D&D). It was probably script with that sort of flexibility in mind, in fact very early information and play throughs suggested such a dramatic branching storyline, which is more common in paper RPGs rather than computer RPGs, which tend to be a lot more linear.
It's been suggested that CP2077 was originally designed to not have Johnny Silverhand as an interactive NPC. The basic may have originally been get rich / powerful or rule a corpo / gang / nomad society. It all might have been shifted to a more linear style play with Johnny Reeves joining the development.
"What if the Heist worked?" I'm not sure, but I suspect you would still T-pose while driving cars around the city regardless
this was an absolute joy to watch
You should 100% upload more, my dude.
I agree
If you want similar content, Shamus has a ton of game criticism/analysis stuff on his blog. Like, literal books' worth of it.
18:50 this is exactly my way of playing the game. I just think about all the possibilities while playing the game. Its amazing
I now want to see a mod of this game where they change Johnny Silver's voice lines with Jonathan Harker's.
_"Wake the fuck up, samurai. I know where the bastard sleeps."_
Great video, glad to see more story analysis of Cyberpunk.
Very late, but in Cyberpunk Red's terms, its almost as if T-bug is not a netruner class (which can hack terminals woth simple actions, since they interface at net level), but a simple mercenary which sits at the computer, so they need literal hours for things that can be done in minutes through a netrunner interface. Just some nice headcannon.
Nice video, captured the story nice. It would be so cool, if there would be THIS MUCH stuff you could actually do in game. What replayability it would have ... especially finding out what stuff you can do and not do!
Welcome back! Good to see you.
Evelyn wanted to sell the relic to the Netwatch, not the VDB.
There is mails backing this up, in agents computer in the plaza.
Also, the relic would have never saved Jackie. He was bleeding out anyway relic activated or not.
The chip saved V because the fatal wound was close the the brain where the chip was too, and it was caused by a small caliber pistol.
That theory was busted early after the games release.
I have a theory that the chip would not have worked the same for Jackie as it would have for V. I forget which terminal it is, but the relics documentation states that the transfer of the engram, at its best, works only until AFTER the subject has died. After that, the engram essentially reboots the host and does a full take over of all neural function, thus turning that person into whomever the engram was pulled from. If Jackie had died from his wounds in the car, the chip would have activated and rewrote his entire consciousness. At this point, Jackie no longer exists. It would have been Johnny Silverhand, fully inhabiting what was once Jackie’s body. You wouldn’t have the funny, lovable, ruthless and loyal friend that you once had.
The difference between Jackie and V, is that V suffered a very traumatic brain injury as a result from being shot in the head by Dexter, causing an adverse reaction to his connection with the chip. V never truly died, so his neural activity didn’t completely cease. The chip had a problem functioning as designed because it’s supposed to do so in an environment where neural activity was completely absent so that it could do its job on a “blank canvas”. Johnnys engram ran into a tangled web of f*ckery which is why V suffers the majority of the game; being literally rewritten as he lives and breathes.
That’s a hell I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
Don’t forget thug claimed to be a security specialist
I like this discussion, makes you think about how huge this game would have been. If it had all the rpg choices they said would be there. Imagine, you successfully stole the engram. And sold Johnny off like he never existed. Then sided with netwatch and destroyed all the rouge AI´s? Alt Cunningham boss battle? There are so many things... :(
All they had to do was give johnny his room service.
I appreciate your poking at other directions the story could have gone, as you did with Mass Effect: Andromeda on your blog.
I haven't played the game (Shadowrun is my preferred blend of cyberpunk), but I think Jackie keeping the chip could have still worked with Keanu Silverhand. Surely to the writers could have come up with some technobabble to have to tie V into his sensory information for survival's sake. Then you can have three-way conversations with the superstar and your chummer, while keeping the player character as the boots on the ground.
I understand the desire to confine a character to a given gender for the purpose of discussion unrelated to their gender, as it just makes sense in the brain to not think about several possibilities. But did you notice how "Vee" sounds so similar to both "He" and "She", and is not at all longer? So i did a bit of a mental search-and-replace in this video and it seems to me, that just saying "V" in place of each pronoun referring to V, while a little more repetitive than ideal, actually makes the script clearer, as any potential confusion with other characters disappears, and not any more cumbersome to listen to. Just my opinion.
I think this was the intention to begin with, so they can do a lot of "Vee" in the actual voiced game script and wouldn't have to re-record a lot of He/She lines, as they'd have to do if the character had a more elaborate name.
Nice. I like your theorycrafting here. But I do want to add one more possibility. As you said, Evelyn was smart and ambitious. It's possible she had lined up another buyer for the chip. Probably wouldn't have changed much for her since the Voodoo Boys would likely have found out anyways. But in this scenario, V & crew still get paid. And the game lasts all of about 10 minutes.
And here I thought heist being CDPR getting their codebase stolen
Or CDPR stealing money from their customers.
I actually think that the storylines and writing of the game itself is so very well done for a video game. Shame that the writers' work is left behind due to all of the bugs and issues that get in the way.
A while back I was going to play Cyberpunk, even after the disaster launch, but then I found out Jackie died, and that killed any desire to play the game. I would have stomached all the bugs if 2077 was 'The adventures of Jackie and V"
It feels like the new 76 with how things just keep hitting one after another.
I wish we could save Jackie, and Ev, both didn't get enough time in the game
This video is particularly ironic in light of the heist and auction of CDPR's code this week.
@Caleb Imrie Never hope for the good intentions of a hacker. They're scum.
The real question is, what if V didn’t take the shard and left it in Jackie. Would Jackie then reboot and the point of the story is to try and save Jackie or decide you love the rocker boy life and want Johnny to take over. Now there is a fun story.
i wish u could have seen what they did with dogtown, u would loved it
Oh yes! You're back!
I thought Evelyn was planning on selling the chip to NightWatch. They have government resources to pay deeply or offer protection.
I LOVED this bro. Great video
Great job on pointing out some praiseworthy positives of the game against the backdrop of the malcontented mimetic meme mob.
As an aside, I must have had some god graced PC copy of the game as I had very few noticeable bugs (though I found the game poorly balanced in most aspects) - nothing too disrupting to simply forget about immediately. Very lucky I guess!
Yeah, T-But struck a nerve with me, so I wasn't super sad when she got bumped off, just because to me she was a bit of a jerk. Now my boy Jackie, his death hurt, I love his personality, the couple jokes he made were funny, he was like the friend you never had.
Biggest question is do we still keep the money we stole along the way from killing all the security in konpeki plaza
Cool video! Any alternate story with jackie in it more would've been nice to be honest
This is my all time favorite video game
Jackie is a typical simple Polish guy. He looks like a Polish guy, behaves like one and has same values.
Man, this video is so well done, but is so worthless in the end, because of few poorly informed assumptions.
First, why the hell do you think Evelyn was going to sell the chip back to VDBs that hired her to scroll the suite? Doesn't make any sense? She was negotiating to sell Relic to NetWatch, and those wanted it to use it in the same way VDBs did - as a lure to capture Alt Cunningham. Something you deemed to be non-relevant detail to mention. And believe me, NetWatch, being a corporation, did have those money to pay for Relic. It is evident from few Evelyn's emails with them. Initially, it was Yorinobu who negotiated to sell it to NetWatch, but Evelyn decided to beat him to it. This is also why Silverhand, of all engrams was present on the chip - because NetWatch asked for Silverhand, not for Relic itself.
Second, Jackie would never survive with a wound like that just because he had Relic in. I mean, V himself isn't immortal, despite having Relic in his head at all time. It isn't some magic resurrector, it's not how it works. Jackie simply bled out, and there was no way for Biochip to prevent that. Biochip is equipped with nanomachines, whose purpose is to reconfigure your synaptic connections of your neurons to house engram stored on the chip. Just so that you could "talk" to it, just like you talk to yourself in your soughts. Alternatively, they are able to "overwrite" your brain with engram copy completely, as was intended by "Secure you Soul" program, and what Saburo does to his son in The Devil ending. This is what basically happened, when V got shot to his/her head. Nanomachines started to repair neuron damage, but they did so by writing Silverhand's psyche over V's intact brain cells.
Third, yes, Arasaka would catch up on Dexter anyway, because he tried to leave the city via Orbital Air Space Center and booked a ticket on his name, as he talked about it in your presence (you've paid so much attention to the game, did you?). He was careless and underestimated Goro Takemura's ability to connect the dots and trace him quickly.
So best case scenario whould be to steal Relic in time, leave the Hotel before lockdown, ditch Dexter and deliver chip directly to Evelyn, lay low as Arasaka searches for thieves, while Evelyn is selling the chip to NetWatch, then get paid and retire. Yorinobu didn't even had a strong need to search for missing biochip after killing his father, so it would probably be even relatively safe to stay in NC afterwards.
I think Jackie bled out rather than take brain damage. I am not sure the chip would have saved him. As for succeeding, Yorinobu killing Saburo seemed impulsive. If we had gotten out before then, it may have never come to that. The biochip is Saburo's play at immortality. That might have been worse than what happened. We are lucky that Yorinobu doesn't really care all that much about the chip.
Wait wait wait… I was always under the impression that Evelyn was going to sell the chip to NetWatch, not VDB. Am I tripping?
If T-Bug was a mere 2 minutes faster the heist works. Thats the sad part.
Actually can someone do a video on the reason why Yori wanted to sell Johnny's engram to Netwatch?
That was valuable for netwatch and Yori though it's worse less for arasaka. So he decided to sell it and have some money🤑
A heist gone wrong? Oh my, what will they think of next?
Wasn't Eve gonna sell it to NetWatch from the beginning?
Like, Nob-u was gonna sell it to them as well, and she got the info from him.
She'd still die, cuz NetWatch has no reason not to sell her out, but at least she'd have the cash for a while then.
Despite cyberpunk 77 being immensely referenced, memed and joked about, the number of people that actually played it to know the details of the plot is much lower so....
calm down bootlicker, cdpr isnt going to hire you. average game, average story, some high points, more low point. you dont have to stick you hand on a stove to know its hot. non-sequitur harder pleb
the problem with this is that in the world of cyberpunk corporations are literally more powerful than governments and hold more. suburo Arasaka is literally one of the most powerful people on earth. and yes i mean more important than the president. im sure at this point the president dying is even going to make the it to the local news.
"T-Bug sucks"
Dude imagine you're trying to put a hole in the wall of a supermax prison without anyone noticing, and it takes you less than four hours. Quickhacks are like dynamite: Effective but obvious, and if you draw any attention down on yourself you're about to find everyone within your post code dropping their own sticks down on your head. The kind of hacking she's doing is like getting through a brick wall with a power drill. The fact that you don't understand something basic like "hacking large systems is comically dangerous and requires keeping dozens of plates spinning for hours on end" is kinda disappointing.
bro what I really wanna is what would happen if General grievous was their, like think about it He would fit Right in. Or someone like say Neo was in their universe.
Great video mate
When Shamous Young uploads, one simply just comment and likes the video
Great video, thanks!
Each playthrough i got rid of the vodoo boys. Never blinked an eye lid.
I didn't consider this "what if?" - thanks! I know the game had a really really rough start (i was disappointed by its state - nevertheless I finished the game twice in December that year they released it :D) but at very least CDPR stuck to this game and fixed it up plus they added Phantom Liberty. ¿Have you played it?
Sadly, he passed away in 2022. UA-cam recently recommended his videos to me as well.
hey, vampire the masquerade bloodlines was a hot mess on launch too, also thanks to corporate buggery. perhaps in the next decade or so, the cyberpunk would be the next generation's vtmb. one can only hope.
This video deserves more views
I love *thinking* about this game more than playing it.
Awesome Sauce video
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hey friend i had a question i dont see in no place in youtube or the wiki , in the fail at the heist they say they will put ninjas after us and we are just like dead man walking but in game after we escape from that robots we just back to our appartament and no one come to kill us or do something even after we blow up the event in the middle of the night city the police dont give a fuck if you aproach them same for arasaka guys we dont even try to hide we just back to the same room and sleep
Imagine if they had more time. I honestly believe that they ran out of time on the story which is why many of the characters that V extensively have flimsy story arcs.
Please do that video about the project management failure that lead to the state in which CP77 shipped.
I believe that's Internet Historian's devoir.
I would have liked any story that didn't have me stuck dealing with that jerk Johnny Silverhand at all. I would have been happy with the original Maxtac/cyberpsyco story line the game was supposed to have.
I wish you uploaded more often :(
Too bad he did not lived to see phantom liberty
Insta-like and due praises to the algorithm that, in its infinite wisdom, keeps hiding these videos from me.
The heist was actually fun to play through then after the story goes down hill
I can't post about pleasing the algor....
it doesn't have to go wrong if you are not writing for yanks