Yamaha Stagepas 200 BTR | 8" Battery Powered Speaker | Review
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2023
- Here's my review of the Yamaha Stagepas 200 BTR! It's an 8" battery powered speaker with built in mixer that features a coaxial speaker. This speaker is perfect for wedding ceremonies or corporate events where you might need an extension speaker and no wires.
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I know what you are talking about, what Ive found is you cant crank the "on system" volume knobs full on when gain staging....
You need to drop back the volume knobs a notch or two then it will clean up that distortion.
I have one of these and wasnt aware of the fast battery drain.
I will charge mine again and pull the battery...i agree this sucks!
I am glad I havent sold my Roland Street Cube EX, its easy to replace batteries and it runs off batteries that can be bought anywhere, I use rechargable batteries in it and can let it sit forever and it works when I need it.
I do love the way the stagepas 200 BTR sounds but yeah, its a little bit of a PITA to do anything with.
Thank you. I bought version without battery (thank God!) mainly for cocktail hour applications and ceremonies I sometimes do and for practice at home. I love it. But please, I would like to hear your opinion would it be possible to use Stagepas 200 with my Stagepas 1k's MKI as some sort of fill speaker for little more volume (it would help) but to avoid unwanted interferences like comb filtering.
Great video.
Thanks for the honest review. It's a shame about the battery issue.
Sorry Ive had most of them and even though the Mackie thump go doesn't have the mixing capabilities I use a small yamaha mixer with them I have 4 and they run hard for over 5-6 hrs and still in the green and I use them 30-40 gigs a year just my experience.I use a 12v power pack for the mixer
Thank you for making this video. Despite the shortcomings it is one of the only portable speakers out there with 1) a decent physical mixer on it AND three mic / instr inputs AND a replaceable battery AND an SPL in the 120s. Despite the shortcomings I pulled the trigger on one. I guess I just have to charge it the day before each gig or always keep it plugged in... Not that big a deal --But one downside I heard about is that the App has no mute buttons... Is that really the case?
Yep, physical mixer, 3 XLR inputs and spl output are why I keep it. I do hope they eventually fix the battery issue though. As for the app. Yeah if there is a mute button it is hidden. Faders up and Faders down is the only way I see to mute. Hopefully this will be addressed in an update.
That’s if you can get the app to work it works on my iPad but not on my iPhone due to the OS Yamaha really dropped the ball
Thanks for that 👍 How does it cope with vocals ( male ) ie does the sound ‘muddy’ or clip easily ?
There are way better counterparts like CRF ART 9-AX with 10,12, and 15 inches woofer and SPL 130-140db, and over 1000 continuous RMS. The only thing is they do not have battery but still included wireless.
@@kevinoconner1986 Vocals you have to use the app, I couldnt get a good vocal mic sound out of mine without adjusting the eq using its full functions, plus you cant access compression etc without the app.
You can get a good vocal sound but for me the app was a must
Hi. How you can connect two Stagepass speakers together wirelessly?
My plan since I already own some Sennheiser EW-DP gear was to use a set similar to this: amzn.to/3UwJLO3
Basically use the handheld microphone transmitter to transmit to the receiver on the other speaker. I haven't tested it yet but when I do I'll make a video on it.
The less expensive option would be to use the XSW-D dongles: amzn.to/3vRoiF9
I've used the XSW-D dongles to make speakers wireless before but 2.4 GHz wireless isn't as good as UHF. That's why I've been transitioning my gear to the EW-DP wireless. The Stagepas 200 BTR with the Sennheiser EW-DP has now become my easy setup battery powered solution when I need a wireless mic and speaker.
You make very valid arguments for Yamaha to build into the next generation system! Listen carefully Yamaha
Okay you gave me an idea here about the Sennheiser ew-dp wireless system. Do you feel the ew-dp receiver with the e835 handheld would work for live sung vocals for a band or acoustic duo situation? My goal is to slowly start to minimize footprint and start using battery powered components but still have good sound and reliability. Currently using Shure PGX and GLX-D+ tabletop systems and glx-d pedal wireless for guitar. Thx. Hopefully you have an opinion on this since you have those EW-DP units. Appreciate it!
The EW-DP is of the same quality as the regular EW-D system. You could definitely use them for an acoustic duo or band. But I will say I did use them recently in a breakout room at a corporate event as I was short non-battery powered systems. I was told there was a buzz on the PA if they tried to use them with the USB-C charging cable plugged in but the buzzing went away when you unplugged it and just ran it off battery power. I didn't personally experience this because I didn't work the breakout room. So who knows what exactly was causing the buzzing. Could have been bad power I just don't know. But just a heads up if you go battery powered you'll probably want to make sure you use it on battery power.
@@TheAngrySoundTech thanks Brian for the quick reply and sharing your experience with that. After I sent this message to you yesterday, I started considering the newer Shure SLXD25 system as well as a SLXD15 system for guitar (same principal as I'm sure you know). I called and talked to Shure this morning and they said the same as you did about the Sennheiser unit - that the quality in that that smaller camera style SLXD25 receiver system would be the same quality as using one of their tabletop or rack mount receivers. They just cautioned about being able to put the receivers in the right spot for the transmitters . Honestly though, when we gig I usually stack a PGX4 receiver on bottom, a GLXD+ receiver right on top of that and a pedal style GLXD receiver for guitar right on top of the other two. No problem with interference or dropouts with how we run our gigs. What really got me going is how you used the sennheiser's magnetic receivers to put on the back of your stagepas 200! Quick, neat and tidy! Just did a duo gig with a buddy the other night in a somewhat small setup area. I usually use as much wireless as possible because I hate wires but now I'm getting to the point of hating to plug everything in and have a mess of wires and a small cramped space. I'm thinking I would much rather just charge everything at home and have a neater and even quicker setup.
Nothing wrong with Shure's SLX-D series either. I own some of those as well. Not the battery powered ones but the regular ones. I also own the Audio-Technica 3000 series. I have about 25 wireless sets in my inventory at the moment. All of those product ranges are very similar. Each manufacturer has their own slightly different variation but all in all you're not going to go wrong with any of them.
@@TheAngrySoundTech thank you very much for your input and letting me know that the Sennheiser units would work for live sung vocals for a duo or something like that. It's funny I always go back and forth between Shure and Sennheiser. Last Saturday I just switched back to my Shure wireless stuff but tonight we have a small gig and there I go trying out mics again 😂. I need some wireless Sennheisers as well because I only have wired Sennheiser. Today I settled back on the e935. I'm sure tomorrow I'll settle on something different. Anyways, I appreciate your input since you actually have the EW-DP and know what it's capable of 👍
@@TheAngrySoundTech oh, sorry one more thing. On the handheld transmitters that come with the EW-DP, you can change capsules correct? I always fall back to the 935 so I would probably buy a 935 capsule if I decided to make a purchase. Thanks
footswitch for reverb, usb for powering mic receiver/phone etc and I would have been in - holding on to my JBL eon compact until some company actually gives me the above, I hate pressing reverb buttons whilst engaging an audience, it can't be that hard surely
I agree. That's a common oversight by manufactures.
Unbelievable that they have a phantom drain that you can't shut off and then can't restart it that's legendary
You can switch it off. see above.
Just like most if not all laptops.
I agree with what you have to say it’s a lovely speaker and lovely sounding but they have dropped the ball with the battery. I charged the battery full on Thursday night took it out Saturday morning it was at 50% battery 😮 they really need to add a usb top which will help to power receivers for mics.
I just don't get how they didn't think this bad of a battery drain wouldn't be an issue? Do they not have people that test these in the field before putting them into production?? A usb would be a nice addition. I really do recommend the Sennheiser EW-DP battery powered wireless sets though. They are awesome when creating a full battery powered system: amzn.to/415pWhX
You can switch the battery off, it takes a couple of seconds. See my post above.
@@johnmorrell yes but John this defeats the object of it being a battery speaker as if your in a place with no access to power there is no way of activating it.
@@TheAngrySoundTech surely all it would take is for Yamaha to change the battery cover and battery to have a kill switch on the battery so once it is charged you can shut off the power to the speaker that way.
All batteries deplete. Even Tesla. If you are in a place where you can't activate it, then you can't charge it either. So you'll be using it as a one shot amp. I can't think of any gig or scenario that I've done over the past 3 decades where I have gone 1 day somewhere without access to a power plug / socket. Maybe the Noth Pole, but then the cold would kill the battery quicker than normal depletion.
I personally think it's a moot point. In real world scenarios, you would just plug it in before a gig - standard preparation - or just before you left home. Or plug it in at a gas station toilet if need be. The battery off switch is another of the very well-thought-out features of this amp. I enjoyed your review anyway.@@JJFamilyEntertainer
Merci pour votre vidéo.
00:57 Selon le mode d'emploi, le link de deux 200 BTR n'est pas stéréo. C'est une grosse déception pour moi.
I guess you can’t test since you only have 1 but nowhere does Yamaha mention any capability to Bluetooth pair 2 speakers together for a stereo L / R pair and the manual also seems to omit any instructions. Is this a function of the Stagepas app or see mention of it in the settings menus?
I don't believe you can bluetooth pair two of them together. At least not from what I've seen. You know I did have a pair of Turbosound ip500's that you could bluetooth pair but it would only pass bluetooth audio when you paired two speakers. It wouldn't pass the XLR input audio to the second speaker. So I'm not sure if this is something common when bluetooth pairing speakers. My plan was to use something like this: amzn.to/415pWhX If you see the Sennheiser handheld transmitter in the kit. Part of the reason why it would be nicer if the Stagepas 200 had an xlr out put instead of a 1/4". I've already had really good luck with these battery powered transmitters and receivers for mics so I thought it would work good to link two speakers together wirelessly.
Thank you, I have a set of similar Sony wireless systems for utility use. I would use these on film sets for light music and communications. I have a set of DZR / DXS for real PA use but love the idea of little portable battery powered units for quick deployment. Being able to have a pair and play music on both from a phone would be nice though. I’m pretty sold on these as the smallest, heaviest (for a reason I presume - best cabinet density) and highest sound quality compared to other 8” BT / battery contenders, pretty much has me sold otherwise. Thanks for noting the battery issue, will make sure to keep them charged up.
This is how to switch the Battery off. Hope this helps
Storing the unit with the battery installed:
If you store the unit with the battery installed,
microcurrent will continue to flow through the unit.
For this reason, even if the battery has been fully
charged, it will be depleted in about two weeks.
If you plan not to use the unit for more than ten days, we
recommend that you remove the battery from the unit
or set the battery to “battery conservation mode.”
To revert the battery from conservation mode to normal
mode, you must plug the unit (with the battery installed)
into an AC outlet.
NOTE
Battery conservation mode describes a state in which the
battery supplies no current to the unit.
Engaging battery conservation mode
Remove the unit’s power cord from the AC outlet. Make
sure that the power on the unit remains on. While
pressing and holding down the 3 [BATTERY CHECK]
switch, press the 1 [P] (Standby/On) switch, and
continue holding down both switches for seven seconds
or longer.
Release both switches, and then press the 1 [P]
(Standby/On) switch again. If the unit does not power
on, battery conservation mode is engaged.
Reverting from battery conservation mode to normal mode
Connect the power cord to an AC outlet.
(Owner's manual Page 15)
I do touch on the ability to do this in my video. My main complaint with this process is that if you are taking your speaker out to somewhere that does not have power. Thus, the reason you need a battery powered speaker. You better remember to plug it in before you leave or you're going to have a giant paperweight you cannot turn on. It just really boggles my mind why Yamaha made the speaker like this when no other battery powered speaker on the market is like this. What is this speaker doing when it's off that the JBL Eon One Compact is not? 🤔
The compact is loosing power too, like any battery on the planet. Entropy. btw, the Bose S1 series does the same thing - but it automatically disconnects the battery if not being used after a few days. A firmware update may fix the Yamaha issue, and automatically disconnect the battery like the Bose etc. But, that's the advantage of having products out in the wild: the company gets feedback from the likes of yourself and generally fixes them with updates.@@TheAngrySoundTech
@@johnmorrell the Roland Street Cube EX doesnt lose power like that, you can go months and it will still be charged and ready for gigs. Ive used mine on hundreds of gigs and still love it, its rock solid dependable just a lil old. I bought the Stagepass 200 BTR because it does sound better, but if Roland comes out with a street cube ex v2 and upgrades it, I will probably be buying that and selling the Yamaha
I got the stagepass 200btr for precisely that reason - it sounds better. i don't do any gigs where I will be removed from a power source for days on end, and have zero recharging / waking possibilities. I imagine there are people playing in tents in the desert, or in an Arctic expedition, and will have limited access to a power outlet. I just don't see it as a big issue. You can switch the entire unit completly off. I'd love to hear from folks who do gigs where they have zero possibility to stick it in a wall socket, to unlock the anti-draining mechanism. I think for most folks in 2023 we can find an electrical socket somewhere. It may have been nice to have had a similar battery arrangement as the Cube, but the plus's of the Yamaha far outweigh the minuses. Thanks for your informative reply.@@BillyBlaze7
@@johnmorrell I was also wondering is a battery powered generator or power bank that has outlets might work the same as plugging it into a wall to wake it up. I may need to try that out since I have a few.
So just plug it in and turn it on at home before you‘re leaving for the gig and voila , case closed. I get your point though, and the screws are definitely a bad design decision. I love mine though, I think it sounds great for the size and really does offer great bang for the buck.
Bad design.
@@peterpulpitpounder Is there an echo in here?
@@aTouchoClass Yes, I think so. :) Great review. Thank you. :)
Laptops lose power even when they're not turned on also. A lot of things that have a constant low voltage do this.
Everything with a battery slowly loses power. My point is I have a JBL Partybox Encore in my basement right now. I bought it to use as my home karaoke speaker. I got it on a black Friday special and charged it once. I have been using it fairly regularly to sing a song here and there. It's still on it's first charge and we are now into January and it still has power. The Yamaha Stagepas 200 BTR would be needing to be on it's 3rd charge already with zero use. It dies obnoxiously fast without even being used. I've owned multiple "pro audio" battery powered speakers over the years and the Yamaha has the worst power off battery drain by far. I'm a Yamaha fan. I own a bunch of their speakers but I'm not afraid to point out their shortcomings and the power off battery drain is an issue with this speaker.
@@TheAngrySoundTech I think it was the Bose that had the same issue and a firmware update fixed it. Hopefully Yamaha is working on that.
Everse 8 is the really best option followed by the eon one mk2
I have a buddy that is an EV guy and he has a pair of the Everse 8's. He loves them. I've always wanted to try out Yorkvilles battery powered speaker and subwoofer.
You can’t compare the EON one mk2 for sound quality and power as we tested these side by side at the dealer and the Yamaha was much more powerful and such a better sound the eon was flashing its peak light like a Christmas tree at only half the power! It’s just Shame it’s let down with the battery! The EV too was very weak compared to the Yamaha for power and sound quality.
@@JJFamilyEntertainer naw I tried them and the JBL is the best sounding thanks to the low end extension which is at the expense of overall output. The JBL clipping is likely as I have experienced with mine a combination of preamps and limiters the JBL is a very complex speaker for no reason so if you don’t know what is going on you might thing it’s the limiting when in reality your just to loud for the preamp and the master is fine or you have the limiter on and it’s clamping down much earlier than you need! But everse I feel is best because it’s perfect combination of features and simplicity I give ev credit there it always a solid finished product
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