Tony Iommi Black Sabbath Pedal Shootout

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  • @DoesItDoom
    @DoesItDoom 2 роки тому +68

    Was so cool to hear all of these compared, especially with the LA30BL included. Thanks dude!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +6

      Yea I was really happy to get a chance to do it side by side with that amp. Next month im going to try for a hypercoven if I can find one!

    • @gregkalt2082
      @gregkalt2082 10 місяців тому +1

      if anyone wants to know if the answer to "does it doom" regarding the walpurgis. it dooms, nicely! i actually have been combining the walpurgus and the TI at times and love the sound. i am looking to get an iommi model guitar with p-90 so may need less of that crunch from the pedals, but also like using the wapurgis as a distortion pedal. i find myself never using my metal muff anymore.

  • @mjtan6787
    @mjtan6787 2 роки тому +9

    I have the TI boost...it's not a distortion pedal, it's a treble booster; used for thick sounding amps that lack high end clarity...it acts as a boost for your amp, for those who are wondering. Hope this helps.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +2

      Yep! The walpurgis and the sabbra both are based on the preamp to the amp I used and they both have rangemasters in them.

  • @stevewills735
    @stevewills735 2 роки тому +19

    Love the walpurigis, The TI has some great midrange focus, and I figured the sabra would do a bit better up against these contenders.
    LONG LIVE THE TONY CULT! cheers!

  • @seancurtin5131
    @seancurtin5131 2 роки тому +7

    Thanks for sharing, I've got a Sabracadabra and find it amazing, however I've been ultra curious about the Tony Iommi signature Laney Black Country signature boost. The Laney sounds great as well. However by listening to this alone, I'd declare the Signature Boost Black Country pedal to be more for the 'newer' generation Black Sabbath sound, whereas the Caitlinbread pedal seems to be hitting all the right sounds of the classic first 6 Black Sabbath albums era. It's even got a bit of the amp like noise that used to be generated, whereas the Laney pedal seems to be less noisey and cleaner. The Walpurgis was also nice but I wouldn't look at it if your trying to capture that classic Tony Iommi sound, it's got this extra warmth that just doesn't sound quite right.

    • @InhalerOfTheRifftree
      @InhalerOfTheRifftree Місяць тому

      I would also agree wholeheartedly with this statement lol
      The Walpurgis is the awesome. I love that old school sound with a bit of extra low end saturation. The Sabra nails the ACTUAL tone on the first 4 albums, through that Laney. The BCC is a great all-rounder. I also like mine. It's easier to vintage up a modern tone, than push a vintage one, sometimes

  • @markn4526
    @markn4526 2 роки тому +9

    It's funny that everyone seems to prefer the Walpurgis and TI, but I like the Sabbra Cadabra by far. It has much greater clarity making the other 2 sound very muffled by comparison. I don't think they'd cut thru the mix nearly as well. Granted, my hearing isn't what it used to be!

  • @cobezcobez9430
    @cobezcobez9430 2 роки тому +6

    TI boost and walpurgis FTW. TI Boost has that crisp sound that would be great on a recording to cut through. Walpurgis has that nastiness that sounds legit like Ozzy and Iommi are about to come through your walls. Either one is badass. Wonder what a layered sound of both would be like.

    • @dinorocker8647
      @dinorocker8647 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I think the TI boost is far more legit than the Sabbra Cadabra 'cause I've heard it's too easy to make it sound like shit, where as the TI boost is more geared towards the types of amps that Iommi used, where as the Sabbra Cadabra is more for a clean amp.

  • @_MetaL
    @_MetaL 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you! keep the Sabbath! Still working on that National Acrobat Riff too!

  • @tz8667
    @tz8667 2 роки тому +5

    I get great Iommi sound, at manageable volume, by running the Laney TI boost (Drive-6, Lo-2, Hi-9, Vol-8) into the Walpurgis turned all the way down, where it just acts like a Laney Supergroup pre-amp. For anyone looking to replicate the sound under $500, I think that's the way to go.
    It is more expensive, but it is hard to top the TI boost going into the dimed LA30BL, though your neighbors will hate you.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +3

      I use the ti boost and the walpurgis for similar results so I can keep the laney clean. Basically three channels available that was. Well two and a boost!

    • @tz8667
      @tz8667 2 роки тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple I see what you're talking about on your last video now. Treating them as different channels is an interesting approach.
      Did you mess around with the master gain trim pot under the cover? I'm guessing mine was too high when I tried the TI Boost -> Walpurgis -> LA30BL, because running it into the LA30BL even on an amp gain setting of 2 or 3 is getting pretty loud, but going with TI Boost -> Walpurgis -> powered speaker is just right.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      @@tz8667 yea its pretty fun

  • @nodaysback1
    @nodaysback1 2 роки тому +1

    From what I've read and heard described about the T.I. Boost pedal is that it gives the best results for Iommi's tone by slamming a cranked hi-gain channel of a 100W tube head on a half or better yet, full stack. So, it's likely to be necessarily loud with the Laney pedal, which doesn't surprise me that proper Iommi tone would require VOLUM!E

  • @michaelorourke7032
    @michaelorourke7032 2 роки тому +4

    This video is excellent for helping one choose a pedal for the full capabilities.
    The Walpurgis sounds extremely close to the record, while the Sabbra and Laney are great pedals as well. Thank you for a great video. I have subscribed to your channel.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! I could never find a side by side video so I bought them all to test them myself lol! The sabbra is the only one I sold. Thanks for the subscribe

  • @Rocknroller795
    @Rocknroller795 2 роки тому +5

    Walpurgis sounds just like the record! The TI Boost sounds like it would be perfect for cutting through a mix. The Sabbra just doesn’t have the midrange that the other two have and sounds very weak in comparison.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +5

      This is exactly my thoughts and conclusions. The ti gives you the options to have neutral mids, boosted low mids or boosted high mids... I am keeping the ti and the walpurgis. I moved the sabbra along for a delay pedal.

    • @dinorocker8647
      @dinorocker8647 2 роки тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple Smart, the TI Boost is infinitely better compared to the CB Sabbra Cadabra, I'm definitely keepin' my TI Boost.

  • @kennyjohnson336
    @kennyjohnson336 2 роки тому +5

    I've had the Sabbra since it came out. This is speculation but I think the Walpurgis sounds best playing alone but the Sabbra might cut through better in a mix. I had the Laney and sold it, although I think it might have been good through a cranked amp, its not really a "Sabbath in a box" pedal. I plan on getting a Walpurgis, Nice video

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      I've got separate videos for each... can't remember if each video had a band mix or not. I included the ti for people to hear it through a supergroup as a kind of baseline. Thanks for watching!

  • @paulgrindley8192
    @paulgrindley8192 Рік тому

    I own the Sabbra Cadabra so I might have a bit of a biased opinion but I think it sounds really close. The Laney pedal sounds really nice too. We should all be thrilled that companies are making pedals that get us really close to the sound of Iommi.

  • @jimmymattuichio453
    @jimmymattuichio453 2 роки тому +2

    I think the problem with the Sabbra Cadabra is that its so touchy on the knobs, its hard to find that perfect spot and tune it to your specific setup. That being said, i believe it would be better for the people who dont have the crazy pickups and heads because its more customizable.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      It's definitely very touching sensitive. I found it ti have a more modern sound with my gear though. I woukd.like to try it again with my laney aor and see how it goes

  • @ggwyn72
    @ggwyn72 2 роки тому +1

    So amazed by how the Sabbra sounds next to the other 2. I have had my eye on the Sabbra for a while now and this video has totally changed my mind towards the Walpurgis. Boo.

  • @cdwilliams6875
    @cdwilliams6875 2 роки тому +3

    it's a toss up between the Iommi Boost and the Walpurgis.

  • @Hellbilly1969
    @Hellbilly1969 2 роки тому +4

    I love all three to be fair, the TI Boost is my favourite, I've had the Sabbra Cadabra twice and sold them both, it's a real struggle to get a good sound out of it on a big amp, I got the Naga Viper in the end, which does the job well. I haven't tried Steve's pedal yet, I'd love to but getting it to the UK, costs a small fortune. If he could get someone selling for him in the UK,hit me up.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      Would it be hella expensive if someone here bought it and sent it to you?

    • @Hellbilly1969
      @Hellbilly1969 2 роки тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple I'm not sure about that, I've not thought of it to be honest. May well look into it. I use UK pedal builders to to avoid the issue, but when something comes along like this and want to try it can be an issue.

    • @mikeg6666
      @mikeg6666 2 роки тому

      I with you on that , wanted to love the Sabbra pedal but was a huge disappointment. So I also sold it and bought a mt-2w boss....

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      @@mikeg6666 how the MT boss compare to the original?

  • @AIC68
    @AIC68 9 місяців тому +2

    🤘😈🤘 TI Boost pedal sounds great! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Dr_V_von_Doom
    @Dr_V_von_Doom 2 роки тому +1

    Great comparison video, showed off the pedals with some smooth Iommi riffage. Subscribed.

  • @Jimmytwofifty
    @Jimmytwofifty 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like the Walpurgis and the TI boosted Laney are as close to album tone as possible. The sabbra sounds fantastic but maybe a bit too "hot" for the true Iommi tone.

  • @mistershabadoo
    @mistershabadoo 2 роки тому +3

    Walpurgis for a lot of reasons, but you can’t beat ease of use with only one knob! The TI also really does a great job. (If you want a better catalinbread box, the Giygas fuzz is worth checking out!)
    Killer to see this shootout, man! Cheers!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      I look alot of catalinbread but this one just missed the mark I think. You the walpurgis is shocking close to my money amp.

  • @mtbplumber8490
    @mtbplumber8490 2 роки тому +1

    Sabbra Cadabra ! The slightly thinner sound would definitely cut through better.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      Yep,I also find it a bit more harsh and modern but through a different amp that could probably be tamed

  • @no_name1107
    @no_name1107 2 роки тому +1

    I'm forever with my boy Steve Reis at Does it Doom?!
    Walpurgis is the best Iommi in a box pedal.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      Yea. This pedal is probably the most exciting thing I bought in pedal format in awhile lol

  • @nickh1933
    @nickh1933 Рік тому +3

    Have all 3 and they are all great, Walpurgis is my fav. .Believe it or not, my Wampler Ratsbane gets me a bit closer to the early tones than the others, especially if I hit it with a treble booster. It has that Sabbotage sound without sounding like a fuzz or a Muff.

  • @corkystclair7475
    @corkystclair7475 2 роки тому +1

    It's cool to hear the comparisons, but folks need to keep on mind that the synergy between these pedals, and the gear they're being used in conjunction with, will determine the end result. I have a Sabra Cadabra, and have also heard other videos where it sounds amazing, but it just doesn't seem to have good synergy with the rest of your setup. An example would be if you have pickups that are notoriously bright, with an amplifier thats notoriously bright, and a treble boosting pedal, your end result might sound like trash, despite all three pieces of gear being excellent. Others may have awesome results with the Sabra and their gear, while the other two pedals may sound lackluster, depending on how well they compliment eachother. Just something to keep on mind as a caveat...

  • @JaredS-zf3hq
    @JaredS-zf3hq Рік тому

    I love running the CB pedal at 12v the most. I thought it wouldn't do much difference but I was very wrong. 9 is loose, 12 inbetween, 18 more tight.

  • @liys540
    @liys540 2 роки тому

    Ti boost and walputgus are my preference of Sabbath sound

  • @rymivo4012
    @rymivo4012 8 місяців тому

    I gotta vote for the Sabbra on this shootout. It might be getting away from Iommi's vintage tone though (a little thicker). IMO. I agree with the other comments, "They're all good.They all sound different from each other." I like the tone of your Laney head! Thanks!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  8 місяців тому

      Thanks! Yea the sabbra can definitely get a more modern iommi easier than the rest

  • @sercastamere9853
    @sercastamere9853 Рік тому

    I think it's worth mentioning that the engineer behind the Sabbra Cadabra pedal (Leonard, of KittyCaster FX these days) almost always plays the pedals through a Fender, and at 18V as they emulate headroom a lot better with 18V. Especially comparing it next to the real deal Laney amp with the real deal Iommi signature booster (not amp emulator like the Sabbra) it seems like an unfair comparison.
    I think it'd be better to play the Sabbra at 18V thru a different amp to see if it gets close

  • @jonathanhorne520
    @jonathanhorne520 2 роки тому +2

    The Digitech Hardwire Valve Distortion beats all of these for the Sabbath sound.

  • @MichaelHolt-c8e
    @MichaelHolt-c8e Рік тому

    All very cool pedals, I prefer the Sabbra Cadabra

  • @StadinBasso
    @StadinBasso 7 місяців тому

    TI-Boost and Walpurgis did the job excellently. Sabbra Cadabra seemed to be way off in comparison, which was surprising.

  • @gregkalt2082
    @gregkalt2082 Рік тому +1

    i have the sabbra cadabbra and the TI boost. i find the sabbra is a little sensitive to get sounding the way i want it to. i find that the TI boost is a great "all purpose" pedal for virtually anything i play. i've been thinking about getting the walpurgis and selling my Sabbra pedal but need to listen to some more of your reviews on them independently. i

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  Рік тому

      I would highly suggest the walpurgis over sabbra

    • @gregkalt2082
      @gregkalt2082 10 місяців тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple just came back to listen to this again and did exactly this. i sold my sabbra pedal and go the walpurgis. keeping in mind i'm using boss 50W amps, i keep that clean and let my pedals be my control. i like the TI to get that higher range output and then engage the walpurgis to give it some serious sabbath sound. works super well on downtuned songs. i'm now curious about catlinbreads updated naga viper pedal.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  10 місяців тому +1

      @@gregkalt2082 i just saw that . When i had a naga and a laney la30bl it was my favorite combo for that tone. I want to try the new on on my aor

  • @georgroderer1058
    @georgroderer1058 2 роки тому +1

    Sabbra Cadabra is in the highs very close, but its too fuzzy.
    Walpurgis is clearer. But loses the high Tone Effekt from Sabra Cadabra.
    Laney's in the highs very close and adds some roar in all of it, as you can hear on Tonys newer Stuff ( 2000+)

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      Very good observation!!!

    • @georgroderer1058
      @georgroderer1058 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple would you try to play the Laney Pedal as Effekt over the Sabra Cadabra ? That could be the Solution for the Fuzz Sound and its maybe Possible to combine the high squeek Sound with the Roar depth..

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      @@georgroderer1058 i would but i no longer own those pedals

  • @jakedibiase7404
    @jakedibiase7404 Рік тому

    The Sabbra sounded most like Iommi’s tone to me. Had more high end grind. The Walpurgis sounds like it doesn’t have enough gain.

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 2 роки тому +1

    I actually like them all !

  • @j.d.leslie8458
    @j.d.leslie8458 2 роки тому +1

    All sound fabulous but the Walpurgis may have the edge.

  • @_MetaL
    @_MetaL 2 роки тому +2

    Love all Three!

  • @jeffreylazzarinisr7419
    @jeffreylazzarinisr7419 Рік тому

    Nice vid. Have the Laney. What settings on the TI boost and amp. Hard to see in the vid. Thank you!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  Рік тому

      I believe the toggle was in down position, gain off, bass at center treble up a little. Maybe 7. Then turn up the volume until you get your desired tone

  • @GrimpleGromble
    @GrimpleGromble Рік тому

    Great comparison.

  • @johnsguitarmusicanddemos
    @johnsguitarmusicanddemos 2 роки тому

    I have the TI boost and it nails the tone at higher volumes.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      Hell yea!

    • @johnsguitarmusicanddemos
      @johnsguitarmusicanddemos 2 роки тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple I like it because it seems like it doesn’t really add a lot of gain but it does thicken up your guitar tone a lot.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      @JOHN’S GUITAR, MUSIC AND DEMOS yea. Its really good for that. Thinking of trying other treble boosts myself

    • @johnsguitarmusicanddemos
      @johnsguitarmusicanddemos 2 роки тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple I have a few pre-amp pedals that I’m looking forward to getting because it’s a lot cheaper than buying a new amplifier. But I have a few amplifiers that I want to get next year so I’ve got my fingers crossed for a good raise in the next couple of months.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      @JOHN’S GUITAR, MUSIC AND DEMOS which pre amp pedals ?

  • @brucedickinson8993
    @brucedickinson8993 5 місяців тому

    I'm trying so hard to get this tone of Sabbra and Ti Boost on my zoom G11...
    do you know other pedals that looks familiar with them? i'm using a simulation of Marshall 1959, i'm so close, but i think there's something on the frequencies...
    unfortunatelly the pedals are so expensive in brazil

  • @chrisnichols9187
    @chrisnichols9187 Рік тому

    They all sounded very buzzy

  • @MrShadowofthewind
    @MrShadowofthewind 9 місяців тому

    In wich power mode did you try the sabbra ? It also has a 18 volt mode, and that gives it alot more headroom, it is noticable on my pedal amp using headphones, so i can only imagine it has way more effect on speakers.

  • @christophercarty675
    @christophercarty675 2 роки тому

    I have all three but haven’t played The Walpurgis yet (Long story, don’t ask) Love them all though.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      I love the look of that walpurgis the best. I may find a laney style knob to put on it though!

  • @maxbrothman1937
    @maxbrothman1937 2 роки тому

    Thanks. I have the Sabbra and I am thinking about a Laney LA30BL. What settings did you use for the No Boost on the amp and what cab/IR are you using?

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      Everything on the amp was basically maxed out but the bass.Bzz was at mayne 1 or 2. The cab was the iommi cab IR from two notes

    • @maxbrothman1937
      @maxbrothman1937 2 роки тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple I spent $10 on that IR for my Captor X, and it was Sabbath there and then. Thanks!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      @@maxbrothman1937 sweet! It totally gets you there

  • @mikerauter1859
    @mikerauter1859 Рік тому

    Cool but the problem here is the JB - its too balanced and the pedals don't mesh with it well. I liked the tone of the Sabra the best but more gain than Iommi would've used. Useful comparison though

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  Рік тому +1

      I think my recent sabbath one got the closest

    • @mikerauter1859
      @mikerauter1859 Рік тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple absolutely! But what many seem to forget is even if you played through his rig at the time it would still sound noticeably different, his flesh tone, the way he picks, his attack on the strings, if you listen carefully his purposefully inconsistent vibrato etc...

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  Рік тому +1

      @@mikerauter1859 yes and also the very light strings

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 2 роки тому +1

    Well I already own a sabbra ! Lol

  • @JaredS-zf3hq
    @JaredS-zf3hq Рік тому

    pump the range up and play with the rest

  • @joshferguson9703
    @joshferguson9703 2 роки тому

    Does it Doom and Laney all the way

  • @mikeg6666
    @mikeg6666 2 роки тому

    Having owned the Sabbra Cadabra I was not impressed with it.... The Walpurgis and Laney sounds better IMO!

  • @hugonci9886
    @hugonci9886 Рік тому +1

    The laney is INCREDIBLE lol

  • @SeanNatsch
    @SeanNatsch 2 роки тому

    What is the model of guitar you're using? Active or passive p/ups?

  • @RicketyKrickett
    @RicketyKrickett 2 роки тому

    Is the sabbra running at 18v or 9? The 18 sounds waaaay more alive

  • @bullet0657
    @bullet0657 2 роки тому +1

    Fu Manchu for the win i.e. Sabbra

  • @KENNA25
    @KENNA25 11 місяців тому

    If your pedal is 9v, and i use my 18v, could it ruin my pedal ?? Anybody know , thanks.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  11 місяців тому

      If i understand what you're asking if you use 18v on a 9v pedal you will ruin it

  • @marcodecclesiis1287
    @marcodecclesiis1287 Рік тому

    Sulla Stratocaster che setup consigli?

  • @dangitdan9938
    @dangitdan9938 2 роки тому +1

    Sabbra FTW! 🤘😎🤘

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      Its cool indeed. More modern and aggressive i think but also more tweakable

  • @qinghai1
    @qinghai1 10 місяців тому

    Not one thing about this sounds like sabbath.

  • @littlevillagepythons9636
    @littlevillagepythons9636 Рік тому

    What are the name of the riffs?

  • @fuzzmakerrecords
    @fuzzmakerrecords 2 місяці тому

    Fizzy huh?

  • @christopherkennedy873
    @christopherkennedy873 2 роки тому

    🤘💥

  • @DrDizzleFrizzle
    @DrDizzleFrizzle 2 роки тому +1

    Sabbra Cadabra is untouchable compared to these two. I had one and when running it through an Orange amp, it was spot on. However, it has a massive whine because of something to do with the design. Makes it pretty much unusable. If someone could clone a Sabbra Cadabra and fix that issue and it'll be perfection.

  • @stevenconnor4221
    @stevenconnor4221 Рік тому

    On my ears the sabra cadabra has it.

  • @KevinDarty
    @KevinDarty Рік тому

    Use a Rat

  • @stesharr
    @stesharr 2 роки тому

    Try a Warpig from mustardFX in uk,great treble boost.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      Oooh I'd forgot the brand! They are the ones that look like a rangemaster right ?

    • @stesharr
      @stesharr 2 роки тому

      @The Distortion Principle yes buddy, they are fantastic for the price.He uses all vintage parts too.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому +1

      @@stesharr man you gonna make my pockets empty lol

    • @stesharr
      @stesharr 2 роки тому

      @The Distortion Principle I've just shared your video to John who owns mustardFX 👍

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 роки тому

      @@stesharr sweet!!!!