Did the AK47 Copy the STG-44?
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- Today we take a look at the legend that the AK-47 is a direct copy of the STG-44.
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0:00 Comparing the AK and the STG-44
7:57 The REAL inspiration for the AK
12:20 A gun that IS an evolution of the STG-44
14:22 Closing arguments
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Is it boog compliant? if the boog occurs in a untimely fashion is it easily accessible?
#akgnotificationsquad
AK DAD!
Hi Brandon
#akgnotificationsquad
“Then here is you’re STG pistol” “ATF OPEN UP”
@Sundas The Savage oh god i can hear them and see them🤣
What kind of boys know police is comin?!!
What kind of boys quarter keys be runnin?!!
"So what can I do for do convience store cop?"
“Then here is your STG pistol”
*brandons dog gets shot*
ATF:
Stg pistol:🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
Adds HB brace: 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬👮♂️👮♂️👮♂️👮♂️👮♂️👮♂️👮♂️
"The STG actually resembles a H&K with its inner design..." hmmm I wonder why....
It's like... As if the same guys designed it designed the HK... Suspicious...
A successor to the StG 44, StG 45, was basically the grandfather of the H&K.
Roller Delayed Blowback, trigger mechanism, disassembling pin... everything.
@@thomaszhang3101 mkb 42 - mp43/mp44/stg 44 - stg 45 - cetme - HK G3/MP5/HK 33 -
@@lostalone9320 I like to say the CETME was the StG taking a Spanish vacation rather than an Argentinian one like its jet cousin did.
I mean hanle the one that came up with play Mkb 42 that was the Prototype of the STG 44 for the longest time HK and many of the other subsidiaries took inspiration from the STg 44 after the war was over
Edit:”So easy a child could use it...... and they do” love that movie haha
Love this vid kid.
A child could use it*
“So easy a child could use it...and in some places, they do” Love it from Ahoy, underrated.
One of nick cages best movie
In the Middle East yes they do
the stg-44 is underappreciated. the gun is so cool
Two drawbacks of the STG44 system was an excessive weight of 11.5 pounds empty, and the thin steel foregrip becoming flesh-searing hot after a few short full auto bursts. These faults would've been corrected in it's replacement, the STG45, which never saw mass production...
@@charlestaylor253So there are blueprints for the 45? If so, that means its possible for someone to make it.
"You are *NOT* the father!"
STG-44 breathes a sigh of relief
The gun version of the Jeremy Kyle show
Macarthur looks warily at Garand: *Breaths* “You’ve got a lotta explainin’ to do...”
Dodged another paternity suit,lol
Remington Model 8?
This is the gun version of “the mailman is the real father but no one knows except the mom and mailman”
Its like how everyone used to call fps games “Doom clones” because there wasnt a word for them at the time
and I go to school and no one (not even huge fps geeks) know what Doom is
That is probably the best description of why people think this.
@@mr.potatol1743 Not even with how popular Doom Eternal is?
@@zacharyrollick6169 idk because it came out after schools closed but before no one knew the classic's and 2016
@@mr.potatol1743 I call bs.
What WAS an inspiration from the captured STG44s was actually the 8mm Kurz ("Short") cartridge. This led to the M43 (7.62x39) cartridge that was first used in the SKS. I love that rifle since the cammed tipping bolt is so simple. :)
Hugo Schmeisser was a German developer of 20th-century infantry weapons. Schmeisser was born in Jena, Thuringia. His father, Louis Schmeisser, was one of the *best-known weapons designers in Europe*. The life and work of Hugo Schmeisser mostly took place in the weapons-manufacturing city of Suhl, Thuringia.
Hugo was involved in the development of many influential firearms, including the:
1) MP 18, a submachine gun used by Germany in World War I;
2) StG 44, a World War II weapon often considered the first assault rifle in the world;
Hugo Schmeisser with his engineering team was POW in 1944 and moved to Tula to work on a SECRET PROJECT. ALL DOCUMENTS ARE STILL CLASSIFIED IN RUSSIA AFTER ALMOST 100 YEARS.
Kalashnikov - not even a High school diploma. Never worked as an engineer, and didn't invent anything apart from AK, in the same factory where Hugo worked :D
Any questions lads?
@@senior_javaYou should at least do some research before you shit in the comments. Before the AK, Kalashnikov created weapons: PPK, SKKP. And he got a job as an engineer because he had previously created a counter for engine hours and an inertial shot counter for tanks. His education was quite good for those years (9 years of school) and then he worked as a mechanic and technical secretary, so he had enough knowledge to create weapons. What kind of lack of a high school diploma are we talking about if he studied at school for 9 years out of 9 possible? In addition, Schmeisser arrived in Izhevsk only in 1946, the year when Kalashnikov had already introduced a prototype (AK-46), and all modifications were carried out in Kovrov, not in Izhevsk, where Schmeisser was located. Any questions?
@@dragnonpord7029 Sure. Not 9 years, but only 6 years, he barely could read and write. No questions. We can trust Soviets story :D Such a genius engineer, of course. gimme a break, please. All data is still classified after almost 100 years? Really? Why?
@@senior_java Where did you get information about 6 grades, if in those years 7 grades of education were compulsory? In addition, you indicated the wrong dates, Schmeisser was captured by the Americans in April 1945, not 44, and he fell into the hands of the USSR in July of the same year. And I don’t give a fuck what you believe in, your whole argument is built on disinformation and pathetic attempts to ridicule the Soviet Union. What secret project in Tula are we talking about? At least send me a link to the source where you read about this. And in any case, what would the project in Tula have to do with it, if the prototype had already been presented in 1946?
@@senior_java And it’s even funny to hear about Kalashnikov’s inability to write and read; any person with an IQ higher than room temperature would understand that 6 grades (in reality 9) and the inability to read and write are incompatible. Although I understand that you are judging by your experience of studying at a school for the mentally retarded, you thought that all people are just like you and study for 12 years before they can finally write or read their first word.
It really makes sense that the STG 44 and the G3 are very much alike since a lot of the guys who built the STG 44 and also a bunch of dudes from Mauser founded HK
"AK's had a big similarly to the Garand"
*Distant fudd screaming*
Yeah the trigger groups are basically the same for real, Mikhail Kalashnikov "copied" a lot of very good guns from World War II and put it all into one amazing gun.
I'm so happy he did this video and specifically had these segments showing Garand parts. The AK-47 looks vaguely like an Stg44, but mechanically it's an M1 that's been brutally simplified and then squished down into a WWII submachine gun-sized package, with just a few SKS-style bits here and there since that's what was available to work with.
@J Florez
He made the perfect all-rounder. Why try making something completely new if you can just combine existing things that work well?
If someone makes their Akm or any ak do a garand ping, I’m going to lose it.
"Garand is basically just an AK upside down and sideways"
Meanwhile AN94, which is an AK upside down, right side up, tilted to the side and with a GODDAMN PULLEY SYSTEM.
Just looked it up. That is some whacky design. Never heard of it before.
I think Missy Elliot wrote a song about this...
@@dani1i1i1i1 yeah, really expensive. Was built the same time as AEK971 to replace the AK74, buuut AK74 was still good enough so not worth replacing.
@@Mattamaza Kinda reminds me of the situation of the ACR and XM-8 projects to “replace” the M16/M4
The 2 round burst on the AN94 is pretty cool tho
Fun fact: the M16 (AR15) buffer assembly and bolt is inspired by m1941 johnson rifle and the auto sear and fire selector was based on the m1941 johnson lmg
Waiitt this needs its own video if true
My take: The Russians took the German concept of the assault rifle, but there own forms of design and firing systems to simplify it. Figure, the German design is quite complex, the Russians prefer it simple quick and easy. The AK47 is the perfect answer to that question.
AK was designed as a smg but with the ability to engage longer range targets with the intermediate round. Designed to replace the ppsh. STG44 was designed to replace the mouser rifle, so a rifle at heart but with a cut down cartridge so it could engage targets at closer distances with better sustainable automatic fire. The soviets replaced their rifle with the SKS but quickly realized that the AK could perform it's tasks just as well.
@@adamwilliams5849 lmao ok fudd
@@adamwilliams5849 Are you a fudd or are you a fetus because you type and act like one.
Russian made assault rifle in 1916, namely Fedorov
@@romanroman1975 I'm not entirely sure, but the definition of an AR are: selective fire (which the fedorov has)
A detachable box magazine (the fedorov also has that)
Effective range of about 300m/330 yards (200-400m, so yeah)
But also
An intermediate-power cartridge, aka ammo that is more powerful than a pistol, but lighter and weaker than a rifle, but the fedorov fires 6,5x50mm, a japanese rifle cartridge which has about the same size as the german 7,92x57mm or russian 7,62x54mm (both riflr ammo) which makes the fedorov a battle rifle and not an AR
"So simple a child could use"
"And they do"
Me: *cries in a Brazilian Favela*
*cries in African child soldier*
*cries in middle east*
Smiles in Nicolas Cage...
cries in post soviet school
"just like an H&K"
H&K executive nervously sipping his coffe*
I played that again to make sure.
"Schieze"
@@AlpineBishop im deustch richtig:Scheisse!
I mean Schmeisser shortly before the end of the war had a protype rifle made that was roller-delayed. Called it the stg45
@@WE-ep9tq After the war the German small arms engineers took their concepts to Spain and built the CETME, then came back and founded H&K. There is a direct lineage between the StG44 and the G3 series, same design team.
“The grandfather for the ak” you couldve made a garand pun there lol
I thought he did say garandfather... if he didn't, huge missed opportunity
I love the stg 44 to the point since I can't actually own one unless it's deactivated (which should be a crime) so I settled for the 22lr reproduction model.
Where do you live want more gun freedom head to Texas
@@davidjones341 in Alberta canada.
@@Tsaniko I "feel your pain".
Same in Britain, can't possibly own a real one, but I really want to get one of the .22 reproductions.
Come to Texas. You can own one.
"so simple, a child could use it!"
"and they do"
goodbye monitisation, you shall be missed
Rest in Peace Brandon’s channel
Goodbye American schoolkids as well
Dammit beat me to the punch and did it better, time for me to take a long walk off a short pier
Reminds me of Ahoy's video on AK.
@@p_serdiuk yeah
"i could kiss this gun, i probably will kiss this gun, i did kiss this gun" brandon herrera 2020
Most likely he did more than just kiss that gun......
"So simple a child can use it, and they do"
Didn’t he get the coof last time he was there?
420th like :)
People:Hey Ak isn't your ancestor the stg?
Ak:Hell no!
G3: sweat's profusely
Total face palm! I never consciously noticed the extreme similarities between the Garand and the AK; explaining my love for both. Love the technical vids. Learning so much...
I'm still preplexed to this day how many people don't notice the similarities between both, even after Mikhail Kalashnikov openly admitted it
Still waiting on that Whiteboard of Knowledge: How the AN94 works. Slav Space Magic.
I mean, there's a forgotten weapons episode on that... I don't think Brandon could explain it better without an actual physical example of the gun in his hands.
@@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 Gun Jesus explains it well!
Brrr brrr brrr brrr
@@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 I know, but part of the whiteboard series is the entertainment factor that Brandon brings to it. I mostly just want to see how he draws the internals of a relatively complex firearm.
The secret ingredient is pulleys
That was fast...you okay Brandon?
The whole damn thing was fake
Brandon's dead
Wonder how many women tell him that
@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 none
He was kidnapped by demo
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When I was really really young like 5 I literally thought the recoil spring and I quote “made the gun have recoil therefore if I *REMOVE THE RECOIL SPRING* the gun would no longer have recoil” 😂
The main value Schmeisser added to the Soviet weapons program was insight on how to produce complex stamped weapons on an industrial scale. Remember that the first production run of AK47s was on stamped receivers but the quality was so poor that they had to switch to milled receivers until they mastered the technology.
"If you want to see more technical breakdown stuff like this let me know."
Yeah, like, we definitely do, but, um, like, sing more plz.
Maybe through in a drink or 2
Agreed on both of these points
And do it in the kitchen like a real man, you're going to get my couch dirty.
“Just like God intended” Let’s defund the atf. Bureau of alcohol, tobacco, negligent discharges, and arbitrary gun laws with severe penalties that neither save nor serve anyone.
Let's start by attackin' federal supply lines, larper style.
@Paden Conner that is the supply lines.
@Paden Conner They get it from American tax payers.
@@BoogalooBoy I’m more fond of delivering free scuba supplies to the BATFE HQ. Like regulators, BCDs, and a couple cylinders . . . Chock full of gunpowder
In all seriousness I don’t find favorable the path of violence. Rather, I’d like to use the professional process of getting traction to federally dismantle or repurpose the organization and their scope. But if shit goes sideways and a few letter bois decide to stand on the wrong lines of the battlefield, I won’t lose sleep about shooting back. I don’t pity much the poor bastard who made a career kicking gun owners in the nuts over barrel length and shoulder stocks, when karma catches up to him at 3000fps
Kalashikov: improves Bulkin design by adding rotating bolt
Americans: ITS OUR GUN NOW!
Well, that defines the weapon. A bolt with a barrel is a gun. Technically, he "simply" redesigned the M1 Garand's bolt and integrated it into Bulkin's design while simultaneously changing a number of important things. One can argue a lot about how "ingenious" this is. My opinion is that taking someone else's solution that is not ready and having problems and reworking it so that it becomes the best is a great skill.
Kalashnikov has occasionally compared himself to Marconi, who "invented" the radio. Neither of them created anything brand-new or previously unseen. They just took existing technologies/ideas and combined them in a practical way.
It's all about iterative design/invention.
People often look down on iterative inventors, but most popular inventions require both types. Someone has to first have that 'eureka' idea and then create a prototype. However, those new/novel prototypes are often overly complex, buggy, and untested. It takes later iteration, usually by another "inventor", to refine and/or combine those prototypes into something truly revolutionary and useful.
So basically, the STG-44 has more similar parts to the AR than an AK. 😂
Cool
Actually all of the 3 rifles are differend from each other
Of course on what is available parts and blueprints for USSR it's not the parts it's the concept of Assault Rifle they copy with *30/Mag* intermediate cartridges.
Why you exactly making yourself copying the whole parts? When you can copy the concept and the design? 😬
@@morrisonparker3229 precisely. No one was using an intermediate cartridge at the time. The totality of the circumstances. Same with German rocket engineers. The US and USSR were in a fight for which engineers they could get ahold of first. But none of the real intellectual arguments on these issues will be found on youtube, especially on the channel of a doofus entertainer.
@@morrisonparker3229 Soviet has long developing automatic rifles Such as Fedorov Avtomat and SVT38/40.
If anything it is the Germans that did not see development for automatic rifles as important until they captured SVT38/40 from the Soviet and be inspired to develop themselves.
“The grandfather of the AK.” I think you meant the GarandFather. 🤣
Good one!
Nice
Did the GarandFather make a Ping when he died
I was thinking this too 🤣
I see what you did there! 😂
Internet: Russians copied StG-44.
Fedorov Avtomat: Did they
hahah bearding classic.pseudoexperts everywhere....
Yeah, those 3 guns have very little in common mechanically speaking. Even conceptually they were different. Fedorov was intended to be an "automatic rifle", similar in concept to the original 1918 BAR or the French Chauchat (ie a squad automatic weapon for the assault). StG 44 was, after jumping through some hoops, adopted as an individual soldier's weapon, therefore inventing the modern concept of "assault rifle". The AK was originally adopted as a replacement for the submachine gun, to be used by specialist troops (paratroopers, mechanised infantry...) while the standard issue rifle for an infantryman was the SKS. Only in the mid 50s the Soviets excepted the AK as a standard rifle, displacing the SKS.
@@mo45327 yeah but it shows that the Russians didn't need the stg-44 they already had the fedorov with the removable mag and we're moving towards a intermediate round possibly copied from the Germans (did they come to the conclusion as a response to the StG, Y/N/M) throw in all the rival designs to Kalashnikov Would lead me to think if they were going to copy it they would've but instead they had all these different prototypes for the trial
@@loganblanton843 It was definitely a response to the STG. Every assault rifle in history stems from countries trying to respond to the effectiveness of the STG
I believed this myth when I was young, now my eyes have been opened, I have seen the light and cannot be returned to the dark.
Lol acually ak is copied from stg and m1 garand
It’s not a complete copy but is based on the STG 44. The AK is a result of years of R&D.
@@schutzstaffel6337 di you watch the video
@@draskopopovic9543 did you read history?
@@schutzstaffel6337 I'll certainly believe the guy with Shutzstafel as his title.There were tons of various Soviet combat rifles, even before WW2 which could have resembled AK 47 if they just gave them pistol foregrip.
As a fan of the STG 44 and not so much of the AK, this video definitely made appreciate both guns more.
Thanks, Brandon.
Noone
Literally noone
Brandon flexing that he can say Sturmgewehr
my komrad just pronounce w like a v
brandons not the only one
It is the German way, after all.
His "Auf wiedersehen" was damn good as well (I'm austrian)
@@emborg3145 yeah, the w is pronounced as v in german
M1 Garand looking at it's children:
"AK, I'm proud of you."
"M14, you were a mistake."
Poor M14-chan (ಥ﹏ಥ)
To be fair - the M14 was supposed to fill the role of the M1 Garand, the SMG and the - if memory serves - M1 Carbine, while in reality being a select fire, mag fed M1 Garand.
@@jonasstrzyz2469 And that's one of the reasons why it was a failure. The concept and all they expected it to be was flawed from the start.
@@arsenal_616
Yes, I know. My argument is that if we view the M14 as a mag fed Garand, then maybe it is an acceptable rifle?
@@jonasstrzyz2469 I think it still falls short of the M1 legacy.
When you said that the AK and Garland were similar, I turned my head and went “Whaaaaat?” But then when you opened it up and showed what you mean it all made sense, I’m more of an AR guy but I still find the construction of certain weapons very interesting.
Schmeisser’s primary role in captivity was twofold:
- Weapons testing and evaluation of German arms from WWII
- Providing detailed discussion on the procurement and weapons development process of the Waffenamt, and evaluating it. This is arguably the most important contribution he made. You made a hint of it when discussing his setting up the post war soviet arms industry. That was really how he did it. He was not in any way involved with Kalashnikov’s development team:
Thanks for your opinion komrade
good breakdown
I see you too just left john lovells video
I have breakdowns everyday but people don’t congratulate me.
Yeah get out of here with your stolen valor! Yankee Marshal told me all about it!
Jk 🤣
I love the simplicity of your comment
@@_CanadianUnknown the difference is that Sir Brandon is actually contributing to society.
Last time I was this early Brandon was still hiding from Demo Ranch in Texas...right next to me at Kalash Bash.
The closer he was to danger, there further he was from harm.
That was really fun, dude. Hell yeah I'd like to see more breakdowns with the history :)
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*"The Hammer."*
*"The Sickle."*
*"The AK-47."*
Ahoy there m8ty
A H O Y C O M E B A C K
@Craig Finger
...so, can you turn and face the wall?
Norian Arijuna, wall execution?
"So simple a child could use it"
"and they do"
*I BLESS THE RAAAAINS DOWN IN AAAFRICA*
*EDIT: over 300 likes and alike from AKjesus I have been blessed
I totally sang that
It will not break, jam or overheat, it will fire covered in mud or filled with sand. It’s Russia’s number 1 export, followed by vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists.
@@hawk66100 is that a quote? That’s hilarious!
@@ldcommando1616 yes it was a lord of war reference
@LD Commando from Lord of War. Pretty good movie if you haven’t seen it.
I think it was inspired from the STG, but I wouldn't use the word "copy."
Garand on the inside, STG-44 on the outside = AK-47. Seems to be pretty legit.
It did inspire the AK they got the workers but not the machinery that made the stg44 so they had the german designers work with the Russian designers to get the performance without the mechanical complexity. Basically it was we want this performance but in a form that we can produce on our machinery and a simplicity that can be easily be trained into new recruits. Vastly simplifying it but you get the idea.
@@andrewaustin6369 In a way, the AK47 is probably what you would get if you show someone a picture of an MP-44 and explained to him what it does. He knows what it does and how it looks, but he still has to figure the "how it works" part out himself. So of course it will be different on the inside while looking close to its inspiration.
I mean, the MP-44 is indubitably the grandfather of modern day assault rifles because it set the design course so many followed afterwards. And it took a while till different designs became popular.
*mkb42
@@Timsturbs finally!... Someone with some history knowledge.
This is my new favorite UA-cam channel, I'm new to collecting, this show help make up mind on which to get between an AR-15 and an AK-47. that and the reliability, you give a lot of detailed information, that and the smart ass attitude, kick ass man!
“So simple a child could use it… And they do.”
Man, that gave me Ahoy vibes from his video on the AK.
It's a reference to lord of war which is a movie that is very much worth the watch
Children used STG-44s as well. Now that I think about it, both were used by children in combat
glad to know someone else was thinking that
The only reason he did this video was to say "Sturmgewehr" as much as possible
He is Mexican so he obviously speaks German.
I find these tech breakdowns and Brandon's way of putting the differences/advances into historical context fascinating.👍
AK being an M1 Garand cosplaying as StG is my headcanon from now on 😂🤣
Last time I was this early, the Emergency Gun Review with Kyle Kenosha wasn't taken down.
Okay you sir, must be tapping my phone because my buddy and I were literally just talking about this EXACT thing and less than 12 hours later you have a video on it. I bow to you Papa Kalash
in Russia, phone calls you
14:26 funnily enough the M16's mag well came straight from the STG, same for the dust cover idea and the open bolt system. and like the select fires on the HK guns also on the M16
the M60 Machine gun was a direct attempt by the US to convert an Mg-42 to 30-06/ 7.62 x 63 from 7.92x 57. eventually taking elements from the FG-42 and making a whole new model. eventually 5.56 was adopted instead to Standardize NATO like the Russians did in the Warsaw Pact
@@collaborisgaming2190 from what i heard it was always to convet FG42 to nato+add belt feed
they are mechanically very diffrent-MG42 is short recoil, m60 and FG42 are gas piston
also someone else did a MG42 conversion to 7.62 nato-germans
NO S*HERLOCK! :-)
@@collaborisgaming2190 M60 is a pathetic attempt to make PERFECTION called MG42
into an "economical" MG! sO THEY JUST REDUCED IT'S a rate of fire in half in half , totally s*reving up gun harmonics! I fired from it to on range and hatedit so much I asked my best friend who worked in the armory (that was before we both did!)
to give me A REAL well maintained MG42 to show those boys what MG really stands for and his personal Stoner 63 to demonstrate what even the best gun that fires
5,56 NATO has its shortcomings and how to overcome them by understanding internal and terminal ballistics on our Variable Material Pistol and Rifle Range!
For example, having an absolute shorty or God Forbid it's sloppy conversions on
full-Fun mode is nothing more than a bit weaker.22Lr that will send you to jail since 90% or more of its charge/powder is transformed into an insanely loud noise and flash
instead of the bullets' speed and Kinetic Energy (Ek)!
But having a cold forged match grade 17-21 Inch barrel with a 1 in 7 TWIST transforms your pee-shooter into an absolute killer, and Your pea-shooter is suddenly a combat-ready Milsurp that will make any training and milsurp round into a killer DMR and certain type of suppresor friendly (even if it's supersonic) setup that will totally mask your position!
Its a real shame this doesn't have more views, excellent video mate!!
ABSOLUTELY! More technical, more history, more of Cheeki Breeki hard bass 🤣
he didn't even bother to touch on the history and just did the 'popular' retard route of being intellectually lazy and lying about the truth.
I love how Brandon carefully avoided the fact that the AK's lockup is closer to that of the AR than that of the stg 44
But the AK got it right.
Seeing as the AR was developed after the AK, and during the Cold War, I doubt there is a direct link, more like great minds thinking alike. Both designers had the same inspiration to draw on, but both were true geniuses in their own right. These two designs are pretty much what 98% of self loading rifles are based on today. Even HK seems to have moved away from their famous roller lock system in favour of a multi lug rotating bolt.
@@Patrick-857 no one said there was a connection
Correction, ar 15 has a slightly different lockup but yes they do have a very similar lockup
😐 i didnt even notice that but now i cant unotice that
Brandon: The AK is actually based off the M1 Garand
Fudds: *Visible anger*
#AKGnotificationsquad
Yes the AK is basically an upside down garand
So the Ak-47 and M14 are step Brothers that puts the Vietnam war in new light.
@@loganblanton843 didn't think about it that way
@@loganblanton843 we need the stepbrothers poster version of that
@@elijahlawson716 Also puts a neat little twist on Norinco 305A *check forgotten weapons (Chinese M14 in 7.62x39mm that I think uses 47 mags [sounds right])
Great video. I’ve never seen a comparison like this. Nor have I seen the inner workings of the Garand. Great!
Like the WW-2 era roadsign on the wall of the Dutch city Arnhem, it's really close from my home, like 15 km or so and there was heavy fighting in that area at the end of the war (a bridge to far and hartenstein), nice to see that back in a video about stürmgewehr 44 and the AK-47.
4:42 "and now you have your STG pistol"
ATF would like to know Fido's location
Tech breakdown ideas;
M1895 (suppressor capable revolver)
Spetsnaz PSS/MSS “Vul”
APS Under Water Rifle
If he wants to grab a Nagant revolver locally, there is one in Tramway, NC.
@@zacharyrollick6169 Where I’ve been looking for one
this is one of the best gun videos up there with forgotten weapons
big fan from Lebanon
"HMG using HK trigger packs in the development of their Stg reproduction"
Yeah, haha, and that went well
In short, in design philosophy, yes. Physically? No.
I'd say it got the cartridge, but that came form the SKS, which im pretty sure got the idea from the STG. It has the layout of the thompson and BAR, nothing big there, but the 8mm Kurz was kind of a first successful intermediate cartridge. Our 1917 Burton was on the right track, but that 345 WSL is straightwalled round, so it didnt cut it. And .30 carbine is cool, but again straight walled, lacks velocity.
The germans, for all of their many faults, got the 8mm Kurz right.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz sks = downsized anti tank rifle
I like when Brandon does a home movie remake of a Forgotten Weapons episode lol
I was thinking thinking exactly that.
This was far more enjoyable.
One of you're best videos yet. Keep em coming AK guy.
This was really informative Brandon, Thank you from Malta.
Kalashnikov: "I looked at your homework, but you did it wrong..."
Schmeisser: "Oh..."
Kalashnikov: "I fix." **Presents AK-47**
Garand: **Looks at bolt** “Hot damn Kalashnikov, good work on adapting to the design limitations. Excellent use of wood, the magazine helps improve the flow of ammo...great work. This is an A+ for sure.”
Kalashnikov: “Only the best, teacher.”
Eugene Stoner and some CIA (also some German engineers): you know, our troops needs a new rifle, let's just copy the StG-44
Schmeisser: since you're a right wing capitalist, ill my work for you for free
Stoner: thanks!
imo Schmeisser did the AK-47, Mikhail just took credit for the motherland. =)
@@dretax14 the word on street is that schmeisser designed the AK.
The germans taught the ruskies how to stamp guns that wouldn't shoot themselves apart.
*Kalashnikov stealing garand’s design*
“Bruh that’s my design”
“You mean our design?”
_soviet anthem plays_
Lol
Союз нерушимый республик свободных!!!...
Don't forget the safety design of the Remington Model 8.
All your design are belong to us
Yes
Enjoy the history and the comparison of different weapon systems. Nicely done
They made a simpler easier to mass produce the STG44 due to the long machining & precision internals they made the Ak after the design and function of the stg44 but wanted it fast & cheap to produce
Yeah but trunion rivet fast and cheap?
“The ak47 is not a copy of the stg 44”
*sad kraut noises*
More like *sad school-age gun 'expert' from the comments of every AK video noises*
*Sad Scheisse...*
* "the FAL is not a copy of the stg 44"
sad kraut noises
@@mihan2d The G3 is more or less the child of the StG-44.
@@franciszeklatinik889 No, not really. Stg is gas operated locked breach, while the G3 is delayed blowback. The G3 is basically a Spanish CETME model 58, which in turn is based on the German WW 2 Gerät 06H.
“The hammer”
the sickle”
“the AK-47”
Also that “so simple a child could use it, and they do” reminds me of another quote by Ahoy in the same video “so simple, a child could use it, and in some places they do”
I just about thought he got it from ahoy
Gosh I miss Ahoy’s gun analysis videos, his MP 40 one was pretty good, although I frankly loved the way he presented the 1911 and the Garand
@@davidthorp01 man I love the 1911. Had the privilege of shooting my great grandfather's Marine issue one from Remington Rand. Such a wonderful piece
Iconic arms?
"So easy a child could use it. And they do." *laughs in has vietnamese friend*
Guten Tag... Fascinating subject Mr AK Guy. Really enjoyed the video and found the comparison to the Garand very interesting. Beautiful STG-44.
Auf Wiedersehen.
One of my fav videos on yur channel ❤ huge thanks for this breakdown
“It’s so simple a child could use it....and they do”
*Why Would You Say Something So Controversial Yet So Brave?*
I’m just now realizing that was a lord of war reference...
"The *Garand*-father of the AK-47."
*GROAN*
#AKGnotificationsquad
I had heard that rumor before. I am glad you have shown light on the difference and the resemblance of the others that weren't part of the rumor. An enlightening video for sure thanks.
he didn't even scratch the surface. Just because this guy has a youtube channel doesn't mean he's educated on the history that is hidden below the surface (german pow's taken to izhvesk)
Years and years and years I wondered about this question, along with everyone else who doesn't have the knowledge. GREAT presentation here.
Next Cursed gun image: Sawed-off M1 Garand with the banana mag and a dong.
EDIT: imgur.com/a/ApK37UH
You can hate me now...
😟🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🚽🚽🚽💩💩💩
Why you do this?
SILENCE YOU MONSTER
Norinco M1A chambered in 7,62x39 w/AK mag.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz you forgot the added Romanian dong
“As I give myself Garand Thumb.”
:Plaid Daddy has left the chat
I'm watching this right after watching the PSA 103 video Garand Daddy did where he called on Brandon to forgive him about calling a non-103 a 103.
Good times.
You should have said “as you can see this is the garand father for the ak”
Sudaev, Degtjaryov, Shpagin, Bulkin, Simonov and Kalashnikov were competiting against each other as far as i remember. BTW, AK 47 is not made by Mikhail Timofeevich alone, it was Bulkin too, who helped him out a bit (as far as i remember). It is easy to see, that AK-46 have some big differences in comparison with AK 47.
If I am not mistaken, Sudayev died before or during the 1946 competition.
"An American named Garand"
Damn, a bunch of Canadians are going to be pissed at you insinuating Garand was American not Canadian
Citizenship not counted?
@Bronco 48 I was of course just making a joke however, john moses browning was born in Utah...par for the course as he was mormon
John Garand became a U.S citizen in 1920 and he invented the m1garand in 1936 so yea he was an American and the m1garand is definitely an American rifle , it was made by an American for America to be used by other Americans . Case closed on that one .
Got that right-actually as a Canadian myself, I don’t really mind. It’s true he was born in Canada, but had been a U.S. citizen for well over a decade by the time the M1 Garand was adopted. So why can’t we both just take pride in the man?
@Bronco 48 he was born , raised , and died in America and he made the damn thing in America but had Bulgarian heritage so therefore he wasn’t an American? You’re either talking about someone else or you’re full of shit
Who cares if a gun is “copied” if it goes PEW it’s fine with me and I won’t complain
What if it's a hi point??
Zip22?
@@gerritrookworst3701 yikes
@@gerritrookworst3701 chances are that won't go pew so that a no go.
@@musicbymann yeet!
Very nice Video! Gun Jesus is proud of you Brandon! ;)
Greetings from the Stg Guy ;)
I was never taught that the AK was a “copy”, of the stg44 Per se, rather I was made to understand that it was a copy of the stg44 IN THE SENSE THAT..... the similarities that you mentioned. Stamped components for inexpensive and rapid production, mid powered cartridge,(the cartridges used by the two are very comparable). High capacity quick change magazines, controllable FA fire, simple operation and maintenance. One could argue that the elements of the stg were copied, but not the gun itself. My two copperheads.
they stole the concept. the technology of the 'assault rifle'. And the lead engineer for that concept...
a mongoloid tank commander or a seasoned german firearms engineer ... take your pick.
Daddy M1 Garand and the lustrous STG-44 have a lovechild.
Doctor: "Congratulations, it's a trap."
"You know I'm pretty partial to the AK."
No, I never would have guessed.
Hey Brandon, just wanted to let you know I've really been enjoying your channel. I only found you a few months ago, but I really dig your content. The historical/mechanical info, great demonstrations, and obvious practical knowledge on the subject make for a really excellent mix! I really like to learn about how the different models work and thier history along with the demonstration.
I love seeing the evolution of technology, and firearms are really amazing, because you can see how just little changes brought us from single shot, clunky, muzzle loaders to fully automatic, highly precise instruments.
I think it's more accurate to say that the AK was inspired by the Stg, rather than based off of it. That being said, isn't H&K the direct successor to Mauser? The companies, not the guns.
Yes. After the war the Mauser designers went to Spain, built the CETME, then came back and founded H&K. All the same design team. The roller locking system was in active development in Germany before the end of the war.
I thought mauser was still around
Mauser is still around, H&K might be considered more of Rheinmettal's successor, and the subject being the STG44, to which the G3 and MP5 are very direct descendants.
@@davehood2667 Reihmetall Survived the war as a major arms manufacturer, mauser did not. All mauser was left with was autocannons and hunting weapons. This as the bread and butter in the form of the small arms division and its tooling had defected to H&K. Reihnmetall kept on building MG42s and a lot of other goodies, including the majority of the G3s until an agreement with H&K left them with the G3 and Reihnmetall with the MG3.
It may be more accurate to say that Mikhail Kalashnikov was essentially a prison warden overseeing Schmeisser and his team in a "sharashka" - GULAG for smart people. Imagine the glorious, victorious Sovier Union actually giving credit for inventing the favorite weapon of the revolutionary masses everywhere to some captured Nazis... or to a peasant-bred no-education genius. Now compare Kalashnikov, who is credited with barely half of the major AK variants produced in USSR\Russia, to Stoner. Or Browning.
Or, for a fair comparison, to Gryazev&Shipunov, who've designed 5 different models of single- and multi-barrel high-caliber MGs for planes, tanks and ships, half of non-AK-variant Russian guns you see in vidya gaems (A-91, PP2000, 9*39 guns) and a smattering of pistols. Most of their designs are in active use by specialists, too. This is what a carreer of a talented firearms engineer looks like.
Literally everyone: "STG WAS FIRST ASSAULT RIFLE EVER HNNNNGGG!!!"
Vladimir Grigoryevich Fyodorov: "Am I a joke to you?"
srdd nrsmn By concept and use, more of an LMG than a select-fire carbine though. Still pretty advanced.
@@GhostRider659 As a high functioning artist, I would designate Fedorovs Avtomat as a 'Battle Rifle', where as the STG and AK would be considered 'Assault Rifles', since the Avtomat was more comparable to a FAL or G3, and the AK is more of a subgun using smaller intermediate cartridge. It's really all irrelevant though, they all are cutting edge firearms that changed the game for their time.
Closer to a LMG or "automatic rifle" along the lines of the BAR, similar concept for both the Avtomat and BAR but neither i'd consider an assault rifle
@@GhostRider659 wasn't it used more as a crew operated weapon?,.
What about the Italian cei something, I know it wasn't adopted but predated the avtomat by about 20 years.
@@srddnrsmn7320 The 6.5×50SR Arisaka is still considerably less powerful, than, say, .308 or 7.62×54R. Yes, the Wikipedia (sorry for using it as a source here, I just don't have other ones) says that it has around 2600 Js of muzzle energy, but that is from an 800 mm barrel. The Fyodorov's Avtomat, since it has a barrel only 520 mm long, should have the muzzle energy of around 2000 Js, which is about the same as AK chambered in 7.62×39.
The direct descendent of the STG44 is the Cetme and HK G3. The same people went to Spain to upgrade the design and made the CETME and eventually went back to Germany to build the G3.
This one of your best ones...I've been watching a lot of your stuff.laid up with that COVID crap....love my AKs keep up the good work
Brandon: Doesn't put HK pins in the stock holes to avoid loosing them.
Me: I also like to live dangerously.
I see you are type of fellow who lives....
(Shatneresk pause) on the edge.
If they'd have actually copied the STG, early stamping would've been a lot more impressive
Edit: Almost forgot #akgnotificationsquad
Spent two years in Russian army.Still can fill AKM they gave me.Genius of simplisity in the engenering.
I personally love learning about the operation of guns of all kinds. I can't wrap my head around algebra but this stuff makes sense to me.
"not just that cursed gun crap" I feel called out
It’s a personal attack
An affront not to be ignored
(8:50) Seeing that the M1 Garant came first wouldn't that mean that the AK-47 is the one that's upside down. 🤔😁👍
Love the history! Keep up the good work!