Coo videol to see, I have several 80lb bows, the core sr is what purchased this year. The lift, at the moment hasn't motivated me enough to move from my V3x29, I can't even hardly visuallly tell them apart in this video. The weight of the bow seems pretty mimimal especially with a quiver of heavy hunting arrows. I wait to see the 2025 " Lift 2 "looks like...
I’m jealous of you guys with long arms. I’m over here with my trex arms wishing I could get speeds like that. It looks like it’s time to get a Garmin Chronograph.
Thank you bro. I have a v3x I’m very happy with at 75# I was considering upgrading but don’t think I will now. I appreciate you doing these videos and answering our questions.
Pse Mach 34 is 3.6 lbs 34 inch ata. pse does carbon right hand laid in the USA. That said I got a lift 33 and it’s a phenomenal bow. Have a feeling all the companies will be coming out with lighter bows next year. Mathews sets the trends.
It’s not a new trend . 12 years ago most bows were sub 4lbs. Including Mathews . I don’t think Martin even made a bow in their lineup over 4lbs back then.
@@danielsmith8659 Split limbs, wide platforms, and enough material to make them vibration free makes it nearly impossible to be sub 4. Bows of yesteryear dont compare in size and shape of todays bows.
@@vm859 2013 obsession knightmare , faster than 9 out of 10 bows out right now, deader than probably 7 out of 10, cheaper than 10 out of 10, and sub 4 lbs with split limbs . They existed …. But to your point I agree …. Bows for the most part other than speed , were definitely behind todays standards .
Awesome video. I'm 50 years old and have been shooting since I was a kid. Shot 70 lb bows maxed out and a couple of hundred arrows a few times a week for many years and I'm paying the price now with elbow pain and shoulder pain. It's so unnecessary compared to the price you may pay later on. That said good luck with the new puppy.
They have new V3X bows now for $700-$750. I think it's better than the lift especially now with all the limb problems the lift has, main thing is I like the draw ay back wall better than the lift . The 430 grain arrow is the way to go. Great video, just found your channel.
How have I not found your videos before?? This was a great video thanks for the info! I am seriously considering a new Lift, but for now I spent my money to get the kids both new bows. Pinching pennies to hopefully buy one before next season.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed. You made the right decision looking out for the kiddos. Share, share, share is the only way for the channel to be seen by more people.
The way you explain things is top notch. I love your videos. Waiting on my new RX8 Ultra and your videos get me so excited to get out and start tinkering with different arrows and set ups.
JUST WATCH your nocks!!!!! I had issues, last one cost $200.00 (new cables) I've had nock breaking on releass I was using Gold Tip GTO with nock colars. I'm now trying Easto Microlite 4mm thanks for the help out there on that. I love my V3 it's at 81.5 was 80.7 and it's a joy to shoot If your not drawing your bow CORRECT you will find out at this lbsage I 5,2 and have adraw of 25.5 so i wanted to keep up with my buddies and I do and then some now!
Awesome review. You really do a great job on these breakdowns. I'm still shooting my v3x. Just put a new set of super sexy gas strings on it. Really debating the lift and they have 6 of them at my dealer. Think I'll wait and see if I pull any tags. Keep up the good work bro.
Bro I believe bows within 3 years of each other are going to be similar. There’s not a lot these days that are game changers. The Phase 4 and the lift have been the biggest changes in two years for Mathews but your V3X is hanging with the front runner. I’m just shocked (still) how they have shaved the Lift down to get the weight down to compare to the carbon bows. That’s pretty impressive.
Thanks a ton man! another big guy, and lefty. 32" draw and 78# draw shooting the Mathews VXR with a giant d loop. very interested in this bow. just wanting a little more speed and draw length. launching 485grain arrows at 310 fps. I have been able to successfully get the QAD exodus swept blade broadheads to fly well out to 100 yards. it is possible but took a while.
Shot Mathews for years, then went with the RX seven was planning on going back to Mathews because of the hype of the lift! To me Hoyt has a lot better you’re draw cycle less vibration and doesn’t jump forward like the lift but, that’s just me. Enjoy watching your videos subscribed!
Enjoy your videos. Would like to see more with hunts and your archery journey. My first bow I got last year was a mission switch. Tried the lift last week with the same 29 ish 70lbs as my switch and felt like I was dragging the lift in sand as I drew back. I walk out with the new Alpha x. Might be slower but butter to draw.
Thanks for doing this man, I'm the same 80% 31" on the V3X and was thinking of upgrading but i don't think i will now. I shoot 535 and 550gr arrows together which group the same. 294 and 289fps respectively. Thought I'd get an extra free fos with the lift but doesn't look like the cam is really much of an improvement. Cheers and merry Christmas bro
@@PrivilegedBowhunter I think 80 on the dot is a good number, for us the issue isn't in speed or power as we'd be getting like 105-108ft lbs of power it's components... I just blow up arrows or pass through targets! Targets and arrows get expensive with this much power haha
After being into archery even before the wheelies were invented the best advice I tell people is shoot a bow that draws smoothly AND fits your body size ( which is hard to explain but is a real factor). For 99.99% of time speed is not the answer. The answer is ACCURACY. And when a bow is easy for you to draw and hold you will shoot more. And that is what will make you a better archer. Lots of people draw 75-80+#’s but they have that physical ability which is fantastic. It boils down to what an individual enjoys and is comfortable with. So many options anymore it’s ridiculous.
I've been shooting a Mathews DXT, 29 3/4 ata, 29/70, 3.75lbs, for 16 years. I'm 6'2 and my wingspan is 75.5 inches. I've shot it well at times, but it definitely doesn't "fit" my body. I think I've been missing out and I'm about to upgrade.
I was thinking on the new lift but was unsure I belive I'll wait and see much later I'm more than happy with my set up at this time THANKS for your imput (PS must be nice to shoot just about every day? We have -4 to +7 and snow the realy cold is onit's way)
Curious which one has the smoother draw to you? Shot them today and the draw cycle on v3x seemed way smoother! Lmk which one feels better on the draw - thanks!
My pse omen at 80lb and 30” shoots a 722 grain arrow 270fps. I hunt with a 510 grain arrow that’s going 315 fps. Mathew’s is always slower to comparable bows.
Great video man! I think the reason for the v3x seeming to be faster is due to the string twists where as the lift is 80 pounds with mods. Idk if that is making the difference or not?
Dang v3x putting in work! Not gonna lie the v3x feel like home. The lift kinda has a shock to me. I'm 27 dl at 80lbs dw. Both are 33s. Now when matthews drops a carbon I'll be all on it
Mathews is achieving with aluminum what all companies with carbon bows set out to achieve. At this point, Mathews has proven their (errrrrrr) point (no pun intended) 🤷🏼♂️
There doesn't seem to be enough preformance difference to justify the expense to a new bow. There are other benefits to consider. For someone like myself that keeps bows for many seasons before upgrading, it wouldn't be worth it. For y'all that like the latest and greatest, then absolutely. Just do you my friends and enjoy
Did I miss it what ata your Mathews are? Can you get mods at 31” for the Lift 29.5? How did you set up for 31.25”? Great video & glad you mentioned the weight benefit of the Lift! One of the main reasons I’m switching from V3X to the Lift. Also the the 80lb mods- Can’t resist! Happy Holidays
Awesome video comparison. It's nice to see someone hunting with a high momentum set up. 1 question, what release are you using on the video? Was wanting to go to a button release. Just so many to choose from.
Well the new Sanlida dragon 10 @30inch draw with 67lbs with 300ish grain arrow it got 348fps. Super cheap well built but faster than this flagship. Tested by sean outdoor youtube channel.
Man im a 31” draw too. Im gunna follow you because all the other UA-cam archers are all mini Joe Rogans 😂. So i just got my Elite ethos and that bow is a sleeper speed bow. So at 70# it’s throwing a 427gn arrow at 312fps! I had to bump down to a 250 spine though that bow was too fast for a 300 spine. So with the 250 spine arrows at 456 gn they are still going 299fps 😂
Personally like my V3X 33 over the LIFT. Smoother draw up front. 70 on the LIFT was like 80 on a SX. Twist a new set of strings and it’s perfect again.
Are there any good reasons why bow manufacturers are not making stock bows over 70#? It is not like you need to be a bodybuilder to shoot 80# and historic war bows went to 130#. I'd love to see bows sending 675grn arrows at 320fps.
my v3x 29 is also at 79 pounds and even though its close in speeds I still want the the lift and im shooting 550 grains and its moving pretty fast. I will say my handheld scale shows light compared to the last chance draw board scale even after calibrating it so id bet your at 80-81 pounds but my scale is the last chance one its red not the brand new one.. Merry Christmas man God Bless thx for the info as always...
@@mitchimal not even close. More people need to have a better understanding of what it actually means and hold some of these companies more accountable when they’re charging a premium for performances that aren’t what they advertise.
80 then 90 when will it stop .it is getting 2 note be hunting it is just get a gun .the older guys are muck better then all the young guy. And there is alot of animals out there with arrows hanging out of them sad.😅
Doing the lords work with the draw lengths and weights. Us big guys out here appreciate it.
I’m here for you 😂😂😂
Coo videol to see, I have several 80lb bows, the core sr is what purchased this year. The lift, at the moment hasn't motivated me enough to move from my V3x29, I can't even hardly visuallly tell them apart in this video. The weight of the bow seems pretty mimimal especially with a quiver of heavy hunting arrows. I wait to see the 2025 " Lift 2 "looks like...
I’m jealous of you guys with long arms. I’m over here with my trex arms wishing I could get speeds like that. It looks like it’s time to get a Garmin Chronograph.
Thank you bro. I have a v3x I’m very happy with at 75# I was considering upgrading but don’t think I will now. I appreciate you doing these videos and answering our questions.
You have one of my favorite bow channels
Thanks family 🙏🏾
Nicely done. Recognized the mountains in the back immediately! Thx for the video. Happy holidays.
Merry Christmas!
Pse Mach 34 is 3.6 lbs 34 inch ata. pse does carbon right hand laid in the USA. That said I got a lift 33 and it’s a phenomenal bow. Have a feeling all the companies will be coming out with lighter bows next year. Mathews sets the trends.
It’s not a new trend . 12 years ago most bows were sub 4lbs. Including Mathews . I don’t think Martin even made a bow in their lineup over 4lbs back then.
@@danielsmith8659 Split limbs, wide platforms, and enough material to make them vibration free makes it nearly impossible to be sub 4. Bows of yesteryear dont compare in size and shape of todays bows.
@@vm859 2013 obsession knightmare , faster than 9 out of 10 bows out right now, deader than probably 7 out of 10, cheaper than 10 out of 10, and sub 4 lbs with split limbs . They existed …. But to your point I agree …. Bows for the most part other than speed , were definitely behind todays standards .
Awesome video. I'm 50 years old and have been shooting since I was a kid. Shot 70 lb bows maxed out and a couple of hundred arrows a few times a week for many years and I'm paying the price now with elbow pain and shoulder pain. It's so unnecessary compared to the price you may pay later on. That said good luck with the new puppy.
They have new V3X bows now for $700-$750.
I think it's better than the lift especially now with all the limb problems the lift has, main thing is I like the draw ay back wall better than the lift .
The 430 grain arrow is the way to go.
Great video, just found your channel.
How have I not found your videos before?? This was a great video thanks for the info! I am seriously considering a new Lift, but for now I spent my money to get the kids both new bows. Pinching pennies to hopefully buy one before next season.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed. You made the right decision looking out for the kiddos. Share, share, share is the only way for the channel to be seen by more people.
YES! The review I’ve been waiting for!!!
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@@PrivilegedBowhunter holler if you’re ever in Texas! We’ll put that thing to work on some animals!!!
Right on bro thanks for the invite
Just found your channel and love the content.
Welcome 🙏🏾
The way you explain things is top notch. I love your videos. Waiting on my new RX8 Ultra and your videos get me so excited to get out and start tinkering with different arrows and set ups.
Thanks for the kind words
JUST WATCH your nocks!!!!! I had issues, last one cost $200.00 (new cables) I've had nock breaking on releass I was using Gold Tip GTO with nock colars. I'm now trying Easto Microlite 4mm thanks for the help out there on that. I love my V3 it's at 81.5 was 80.7 and it's a joy to shoot
If your not drawing your bow CORRECT you will find out at this lbsage I 5,2 and have adraw of 25.5 so i wanted to keep up with my buddies and I do and then some now!
Awesome review. You really do a great job on these breakdowns. I'm still shooting my v3x. Just put a new set of super sexy gas strings on it. Really debating the lift and they have 6 of them at my dealer. Think I'll wait and see if I pull any tags. Keep up the good work bro.
Bro I believe bows within 3 years of each other are going to be similar. There’s not a lot these days that are game changers. The Phase 4 and the lift have been the biggest changes in two years for Mathews but your V3X is hanging with the front runner. I’m just shocked (still) how they have shaved the Lift down to get the weight down to compare to the carbon bows. That’s pretty impressive.
Life is good for archers👌🏿
@@PrivilegedBowhunter Yea it is! I can’t complain at all.
Thanks a ton man! another big guy, and lefty. 32" draw and 78# draw shooting the Mathews VXR with a giant d loop. very interested in this bow. just wanting a little more speed and draw length. launching 485grain arrows at 310 fps. I have been able to successfully get the QAD exodus swept blade broadheads to fly well out to 100 yards. it is possible but took a while.
Shot Mathews for years, then went with the RX seven was planning on going back to Mathews because of the hype of the lift! To me Hoyt has a lot better you’re draw cycle less vibration and doesn’t jump forward like the lift but, that’s just me. Enjoy watching your videos subscribed!
Thanks family 🙏🏾
Which hoyt are you referring to ?
@@kylemacdonell1450 Alpha 30
I will be waiting to see the follow up videos on the left off the valley etc. Good stuff
Enjoy your videos. Would like to see more with hunts and your archery journey. My first bow I got last year was a mission switch. Tried the lift last week with the same 29 ish 70lbs as my switch and felt like I was dragging the lift in sand as I drew back. I walk out with the new Alpha x. Might be slower but butter to draw.
I’m glad you found your bow
Thanks for doing this man, I'm the same 80% 31" on the V3X and was thinking of upgrading but i don't think i will now. I shoot 535 and 550gr arrows together which group the same. 294 and 289fps respectively. Thought I'd get an extra free fos with the lift but doesn't look like the cam is really much of an improvement.
Cheers and merry Christmas bro
The thing is I can add a few twists to the cables of the lift to get more speed, also this test is with 85% let off so a little less speed
@@PrivilegedBowhunter I think 80 on the dot is a good number, for us the issue isn't in speed or power as we'd be getting like 105-108ft lbs of power it's components... I just blow up arrows or pass through targets! Targets and arrows get expensive with this much power haha
Aloha. Merry Christmas. God bless you and your family.
Merry Christmas bro
Sub'd, great review, love the shirt.
Thanks family
@@PrivilegedBowhunter Got any time behind a Prime?
After being into archery even before the wheelies were invented the best advice I tell people is shoot a bow that draws smoothly AND fits your body size ( which is hard to explain but is a real factor). For 99.99% of time speed is not the answer. The answer is ACCURACY. And when a bow is easy for you to draw and hold you will shoot more. And that is what will make you a better archer. Lots of people draw 75-80+#’s but they have that physical ability which is fantastic. It boils down to what an individual enjoys and is comfortable with. So many options anymore it’s ridiculous.
All true, happy holidays brother
So true. I am getting my lift in a 55lbs for that reason. Easy to draw smoothly and let down
I've been shooting a Mathews DXT, 29 3/4 ata, 29/70, 3.75lbs, for 16 years. I'm 6'2 and my wingspan is 75.5 inches. I've shot it well at times, but it definitely doesn't "fit" my body. I think I've been missing out and I'm about to upgrade.
Light arrow with mechanical broadheads, speed kills!
500 grain arrow give or take a little get you around 300 fps hard hit with a great sight tape great content God bless
That would be perfect
I was thinking on the new lift but was unsure I belive I'll wait and see much later I'm more than happy with my set up at this time THANKS for your imput (PS must be nice to shoot just about every day? We have -4 to +7 and snow the realy cold is onit's way)
Thanks for sharing this with 600+ arrows.
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Hey Brother! Want to wish you and the Fam happy holidays!
What’s up King, Happy Holidays you and the fam as well 🙏🏾
Curious which one has the smoother draw to you? Shot them today and the draw cycle on v3x seemed way smoother! Lmk which one feels better on the draw - thanks!
Lift 33 - dead in the hand bow
Thanks for the video man 👌🏽👌🏽
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585, it will fly better under 60, 268fps will do what you need. I have 505gpi and 593 in my quiver depending upon range.
Love the content
Great Video!!
Great info!!
My pse omen at 80lb and 30” shoots a 722 grain arrow 270fps. I hunt with a 510 grain arrow that’s going 315 fps. Mathew’s is always slower to comparable bows.
I have the new Hoyt alpha x30 at 80lbs with a 400 grain arrow at 330fps and haven’t had a issue yet tuning a broadhead
YES SIR!!!
You can shoot a broadhead 1” or under at those high speeds if you use the Firenock Aerovane iii no problem. You might be able to get away with 1 1/8”.
Great video man! I think the reason for the v3x seeming to be faster is due to the string twists where as the lift is 80 pounds with mods. Idk if that is making the difference or not?
Mathews needs to release those mods. I'm still shooting mine a tad short at 29.5" and I also want to try it at 80lbs
Try podium archery in Washington state
love the Lions hat
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Try qad exodus for fixed blade broadhead as you are correct tuning at those speeds will be very challenging!👍🏹🎯
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Merry Christmas 🎄🎅🏿
Dang v3x putting in work! Not gonna lie the v3x feel like home. The lift kinda has a shock to me. I'm 27 dl at 80lbs dw. Both are 33s. Now when matthews drops a carbon I'll be all on it
Aluminum>Carbon 😁
Mathews will never do carbon , just saying. Matt MacPherson said so himself and I believe him 100% !
Mathews is achieving with aluminum what all companies with carbon bows set out to achieve. At this point, Mathews has proven their (errrrrrr) point (no pun intended) 🤷🏼♂️
I like the 585 the best love the testing
There doesn't seem to be enough preformance difference to justify the expense to a new bow. There are other benefits to consider. For someone like myself that keeps bows for many seasons before upgrading, it wouldn't be worth it. For y'all that like the latest and greatest, then absolutely. Just do you my friends and enjoy
For what it's worth Alpha X 440gr chrono says 337 tape says 319.5
Did I miss it what ata your Mathews are? Can you get mods at 31” for the Lift 29.5? How did you set up for 31.25”? Great video & glad you mentioned the weight benefit of the Lift! One of the main reasons I’m switching from V3X to the Lift. Also the the 80lb mods- Can’t resist! Happy Holidays
Happy Holidays, it’s the 33. 31.25” is just because their draw mods run a little long
Mathews Z7 extreme, 70lb, 29.5” draw, 460gr arrow = 278fps. AND it’s lighter than the lift. I can’t justify the benefit to dollar ratio
Awesome video comparison.
It's nice to see someone hunting with a high momentum set up.
1 question, what release are you using on the video?
Was wanting to go to a button release.
Just so many to choose from.
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It’s the Carter Wise Choice
Well the new Sanlida dragon 10 @30inch draw with 67lbs with 300ish grain arrow it got 348fps. Super cheap well built but faster than this flagship. Tested by sean outdoor youtube channel.
Awesome video! What folding Allen key set would you recommend for the V3X?
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@@PrivilegedBowhunter Thank you!
Man im a 31” draw too. Im gunna follow you because all the other UA-cam archers are all mini Joe Rogans 😂. So i just got my Elite ethos and that bow is a sleeper speed bow. So at 70# it’s throwing a 427gn arrow at 312fps! I had to bump down to a 250 spine though that bow was too fast for a 300 spine. So with the 250 spine arrows at 456 gn they are still going 299fps 😂
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635 grain arrow, wow bro that’s a heavy one lol what are you hunting ? Mine are 456 grains, what do you take down with those 600 plus grain arrows ?
Wild boars and axis deer
I have found that an Iron will can be tuned no matter the speed 😀😎
Personally like my V3X 33 over the LIFT. Smoother draw up front. 70 on the LIFT was like 80 on a SX. Twist a new set of strings and it’s perfect again.
430/440 With Fatal Steel 100g 1 1/4 cut or Iron Will XV 100g 1 1/16 cut . I have the need for speed.
Are there any good reasons why bow manufacturers are not making stock bows over 70#? It is not like you need to be a bodybuilder to shoot 80# and historic war bows went to 130#. I'd love to see bows sending 675grn arrows at 320fps.
I’m wondering if the brace height is different? If so would that make a difference in the speed
They are both 6”
Do the limb dampeners on the V3X make a big difference?
Yes sir
What's the brand of those? I would like to get a set.
Thanks @@PrivilegedBowhunter
I would shoot the 420g arrow, would have a better flight path and enough mass for a passthrough with most game.
Would love to know your wingspan. I am shooting 31” mods as well on a phase 4
Prime centergy hybrid 80x31 / 520 = 320fps
450-470gr. 280FPS
Get boi an xl hat pls!
Are you from Michigan
Yes sir
My 45lb Bow shoots 279 @ 28inches 🙄
Twist it up to 90 👀👀
😤 85 is definitely coming soon
@@PrivilegedBowhunter lesss gooooooooo
my v3x 29 is also at 79 pounds and even though its close in speeds I still want the the lift and im shooting 550 grains and its moving pretty fast. I will say my handheld scale shows light compared to the last chance draw board scale even after calibrating it so id bet your at 80-81 pounds but my scale is the last chance one its red not the brand new one.. Merry Christmas man God Bless thx for the info as always...
I’m happy with my purchase too, I can also add a couple of twists to my cables and get around 3-5 more pounds.
Checking your nocks is definitely key
Oof that should be hitting 339-340fps at your specs man…you’re 18fps shy of its 343 rating.
The IBO rating is at 400gr at 31.5" with 80% mods so it probably is accurate
@@mitchimal not even close. More people need to have a better understanding of what it actually means and hold some of these companies more accountable when they’re charging a premium for performances that aren’t what they advertise.
@ashleysmith4191 he is correct. They came out and said that's how they got their numbers
@@ashleysmith4191 firstly, Google ATA speed then Google IBO speed. IBO = 400gr at max draw length @80lb
All I know is that God has his back
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80 then 90 when will it stop .it is getting 2 note be hunting it is just get a gun .the older guys are muck better then all the young guy. And there is alot of animals out there with arrows hanging out of them sad.😅