This Trick From 1985 Is Almost Impossible Today!
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This trick from 1985 is almost impossible today because BMX bikes have changed drastically! Matty Cranmer tried his best to conquer the "Miami Hopper" but this was one of the hardest tricks he has ever attempted to learn! BMX has changed so much since it started and it's amazing to see just how difficult the tricks are that the early pioneers invented!
Old School tip from a rider of the early to late 80's. We used to have a thing called ' Rule of thumb '. Have your seat and handlebars level with one another with one thumb space ( measured by your own thumb ) between the 2. you can then grab the seat along with your handlebars with one hand. :)
Exactly☺️alao easier to balance and ride out that way.
The seats also had a length that you could get a good hold on to really help move the bike around. I'm not sure about others, but I ran my bars at about 90 degrees to the ground. I found that on my 84' Haro Master with a Hutch neck, GT pro performer bars, GT laid-back post, and Kashimax Aero seat it had that perfect spacing between seat and bars.
That was gonna be my comment as well...👍
Seat height & length play a big role in the trick for sure! My maxed out GT PRO PERFORMER had those fork mounted fold up pegs as opposed to axle mounted pegs.
@@calvincooley1074 My Haro had both axle extenders and GT frame stands on the back, and axle extenders and Dyno folding fork stands mounted halfway up the forks. I miss that bike.
YES TO THE FLATLAND JAM! Gonna be epic
Ex pro vert rider here....50 and I can still do a Miami Hopper and several other old tricks.
damn bro still shreddin at that young age big respect
Matty's a talented rider but his attitude is what really gets me. He's just got the right vibe about him, he knows it's gonna be hard, but he doesn't get bummed out or whatever, I just like watching him do stuff like this.
He used to be so timid in earlier vids and it was great to see him grow into a humble, credible attitude with excellent skill behind him. All around good dude.
Atta boy Matty, keep it up my guy.
@@mirvha714 I think him documenting his iron man and doing a couple odd videos on his own channel having to be “The Guy” really helped him.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 I haven't followed for a while and didn't even see his iron man! I can totally see it he's comfortable in front of the camera now
We all hope BK is doing ok Prayers are still with him with this difficult time he's going through tell him we all miss him and to take his time but also we can't wait to see him back on the channel much love to BK keep your head up
Sorry but what is wrong with bk idk if I missed that vid but I was wondering why I haven’t seen him in a while
@@jackandi1 his mom passed away about a week ago he was talking to her on the phone she stopped responding back to him he rushed over there and discovered that she passed away while on the phone with him really sad she had a stroke 6 months ago and BK has been helping take care of her since it happened and he's really close with his mom anyways it was really sad to hear that's why he has not been in any videos lately
Omg I fell soooo sorry for him I had no clue
In the 80s everyone ran their seatpost up so the nose of the saddle was even with the bar end. It definitely helps with this trick.
The geometry allowed you to tune the seat to just miss the bars, that way you could use your hands to hold it together, Good point you made, that's a lot of Mattys issue I bet
That's right we used to ride with our seat posts so high lol
I was just thinking: were the old school BMXs probably better designed for flatland? Most probably because nobody's really doing these tricks anymore
@@Mcfc2Rich at one time they had specific flatland bikes but that's what I remember from the 90s
@@Mcfc2Rich if you go with a short top tube length, like 20.5, and you can still find rail seats, you can still achieve that seat to bar relationship..These new guys are just soft. Lol.. I kid, Matty rips
Back in the Eightys I had footpegs that folded up so I was able to do the Miami hopper. I remember when the gyro brake was invented that changed flatland tremendously. Its cool to see its still being used in BMX today. Tailwhips and boomerangs were easier after I installed the gyro.
Remember the ACS rotor?
@@Byrd819 that's what I had
Same. On my GT Pro Performer I had folding fork standers is what we called them.
The ACS rotor was good, but that GYRO was much better. It pulled evenly, the rotor did not. Remember odyssey pegs that screwed into the axle? They would strip out and/or break off from standing on them. Man, BMX has come a long way since then.
@@Byrd819 yeah I couldn't afford the ACS so when the Gyro came out I was able finally do tricks like the boomerang and tailwhips.
we always grabbed the seat before starting the endo.... use to love to go from this to a cherry picker... 80s flat ground was crazy and loved it...
The RAD era was the absolute best!!! We rode around on our bikes like kings! Thanks for the nostalgia for the day!
Oh man, RL Osborn is back and now riding 26" on his channel RL Osborn BMX Freestyle. Haven't seen him do the Miami Hopper on his 26" but the dude is a legend from back in the day. Eddie Fiola and Martin Aparijo still ride as well. Love seeing the old school BMX tricks and Matty is boss for attempting them. Thanks as always for fun content!
BigD on Scotty Cranmer 👍
@@thenotoriousrvh6091 I watch almost every video! Love this channel!!
@@thenotoriousrvh6091 Yeah Boiiiii
Dude i subscribe to your channel & love all your amp dyno vids...then out of the blue i see you here for another thing that im passionate about...Thats awesome!!!
Wheelie !!!
I love the Rad clips. I live in Appleton, WI and Bill Allen showed up for our local bike show and swap meet last month. My six year old pulled out his favorite lines from the movie. #1 being "go balls out"
I've probably watched RAD a hundred times on the same VHS that I still own. Growing up in the mid nineties these guys were my idols, glad y'all are reliving some of this content!
Awesome video Scotty so cool to see riders from today having an interest in old school bmx. Also, big thank you for the mention and compliments, I really appreciate it!
You are a LEGEND RL.
I remember the first time I pulled this off in 1985 in front of my local grocery store on my Haro and none of my friends were around. By far my favorite but hardest flatland trick at the time.
Honestly, this is the best bmx youtube channel on the internet
When they combine forces with Spencer Foresman, I 100% agree this is the best bmx content anywhere!
@@MiBurnout I'm ditching this video and going to Spencer's channel instead. Thanks for reminding me.
I think Anthony panza is way better
@@cameronrogowski2572 in a diffrent way
No, fact
What we used to do was make it so our seat was perfectly in alignment and the same height as our grips when the handlebars were turned sideways. That way you only needed one hand to hold the front of the seat and the grip at the same time. You other hand was free to wave in the air (of course) and then use it to counterbalance your body when you leaned back to bring the bike upright again. Matty has one hand on the seat and one hand on the grip, so his center of gravity is pulled forward. That's why he's having such a hard time jerking the bike up off the ground and pulling it upright, and why he feels like he has to "fall back" as hard as he can.
Mattys skill on a bmx with scotty as a mentor is a deadly combo
You could leave the peg on and balance with the peg and handlebar instead on tire and handlebar. Just sayin. Also slightly longer handlebars would help as well. I'm up for the challenge guys. I'm an old freestyler from back in the day lol. Just turned 51 and willing to give it a try. Just need a bike lol.
Peg and handlebar would be orders of magnitude harder
@Rippah if you're balancing on just the end of the handlebar and the peg, that would be way harder I reckon, because with the wheel when it's lying all the way over like that, there's alot of it touching the ground so it's more stable. Imagine if the rest of the bike isn't there, so just the handlebars and front wheel, if you put that on it's side it would stay there right? But trying to balance it on the peg and the handlebars would be sooo hard. I think Victor might be something else though, he could mean make a 3 point balance with the wheel, peg and handlebar
Nah
Put up some pics with you on the pegs
@@calvinphillip4216 Who?
When he rides it like a unicycle in Rad, that's iconic. They're playing send me an angel in the background. How could I forget
You gotta get Eddie Fiola and Martin Aparijo out to the flatland jam. Both were in Rad and I think helped to coordinate the stunts in the movie.
Yes they did. Good call.
The flying banana 🍌
I’m just sat here smiling by myself the whole way through this vid thank you scotty and Matt :)
Rad is such a great movie. I watched it so many times as a kid. Great content, Scotty.
Hell yes, I can't wait to see the Flatland Jam. When I was a Kid in Elementary school, I got the opportunity to watch some flatland BMX riders for an assembly
We used to call a half-way Miami Hopper, a "Cowboy". You endo, turn the bars and flex that front z-rim while your other hand is up like a bronco rider. Then you whip back out before going down like a Miami Hopper.
Frame drop
Seat height. BITD we rode our seat level with the end of the bars when turned 90 degrees. This kinda gives you a counter-lever point to stop you fading left or right on Miami Hoppers.
I turned 50 in July and can still do the Miami Hopper on my 1985 Mongoose Expert! 🤘 Also still riding Motocross!
Not sure if someone said "Cherrypicker "yet. A gret oldschool flatland trick.
they have one on this channel. They had Chad Degroot and some of his friends do tricks for an episode.
I still think they should dust off the cherry picker for Matty to attempt.... and to actually ride into, rather than try to climb into it... that's cheating.... I suggested it, too, with the bar spin variation
@@SenseTheWhiskey fire hydrant to cherry picker
@@dereckc9469 Oh the memories... ;-)
Or a pedal picker!!!
That was awesome! Thanks for keeping the old school alive. Have him put the front peg on and learn the Miami Spin
^ legend!
I love that you guys respect old school BMX, Flatland jam is a great idea
Scotty, that’s Awesome! I’m 49 and picked up riding bikes again 3 years ago. That was my favorite trick when I was 14 riding back in 85’. And a look back on a 7’ quarter. Thanks so much for your videos! These days I’m riding dirt jumps at Highland MTB Park. Building a S&M MOD now.
My 54 year old brother in-law is still doing all these same tricks today.
We call him Super V.... Because he can fly.. Doesn't matter if he's on his skateboard, snow skis or freestyler,
(His early eighties P. K. Ripper is still set up the same way as when I met him in 1982) that boy soars..
Live on brother.
Randomly rewatched Rad last week. Love that movie. Then randomly got recommended to watch this video. Thanks guys! Was wondering how hard those tricks were. Now I'm going to watch the Audi Nines...
Love this video! I did freestyle in the 80's and actually learned from magazines more until they released a video called 101 Freestyle Tricks part 1 and 2 on Betamax (before there was VHS). I wasn't the best and didn't do too much but the Miami Hopper was one of my favorites. It took me months to learn it but when I finally got it for the first time, there was this sweet spot and it was effortless. It felt so good! Prior to doing it, I never saw anyone do it in person. Not many freestylers in my area then. Another favorite is the Decade.
Freestyle magazines, the movie "Rad", collaboration with other riders and creativity were how we learned new stuff. It was great.
I love it!!!! You have to extend your legs while throwing the handle bars forward. Also we had our seats higher than what have.. It makes it a bit easier to grab the seat as the bike is moving forward into the trick... This was one of my favorite tricks back in the 80's!!
A someone who primarily excelled at and enjoyed flatland the most I really appreciate this video.
I'm glad you dudes are showing my era some respect. I REALLY appreciate it.
I remember 'graduating' to the hopper from a one-handed rodeo style brake endo. Once that was smooth and I had a grasp on where the balance point was and how to manage it in that position, the hopper just sort of happened. Thanks for the old-school mayhem!
This was a intermediate trick for us old school flatland guys back in the 80's. Love seeing this trick getting attempted by the new generation of guys. Great vid!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Man Matty has been stepping his BMX game up a lot. Proud of him!
Miami hopper ! Love this trick!
We used to do them with the front peg on.
The pegs were so short and the bars so long lol!
Should have immediately practised balancing in the landed position first! The ride out is simple!
We could land this one handed and ride out no handed (with front brake locked out)- 1986 was so great lol!
He’s making it harder than I actually is. Just lean back hard. He’ll pull it. I’ve no doubt. I learned the Miami hopper in ‘85. Matty will get it.
As an old bmxer who grew up in the 80’s. this is awesome. Love it Scottie
Certainly one of the most impressive tricks of the era.
I remember back then seeing in magazines some riders holding the horn of the seat along with the end of the handlebar, when up in the air at that janky angle. I imagine it help stabilize you.
Excellent ! I was a "BMX Racer" in 1984, and we did a little bit of freestyle ! This trick was fabulous !
Thanks for this video !
"the Carl junior" haha. I'm surprised Matty didn't call today's trick "the Miami Whopper" lol!!
Matty's got a special talent. He has a totally unique style and attitude.👍
I like seeing street riders mix random flatland tricks into their runs. Matty is phenomenal rider. He seems to be able to learn anything with a little practice. Imagine seeing someone in a skate park randomly roll into a hitchhiker or time machine and then back out into their normal routine. People would lose their shit.
Just found this video 2 years later......super fun watching this! Miami Hopper was a trick I NEVER even attempted back in the 80's. Kudos to you guys for working on it!
“Hopper Paul” , myself and others would hang out in coconut grove, experimenting with tricks, and the reason he got the knick name “Hopper” was he did a lot of hopping on the front wheel. Nose stop and spin around and stop the rear tire on a wall and just sit there for a bit. If we weren’t in the grove, we would be at his half pipe in the backyard of his house.
Glad to see your still getting Cred Paul after all these years. BTW, I need a knee replacement now from hopping a curb in 83? lol
Paul Hopper's name will never die. I've been living in Miami since '86 and to this day when I run into some OS rider they still know about Paul inventing the Miami Hopper. When I moved here I didn't know anyone at first but I remember seeing a few riders at the Grove. Maybe I saw you and your crew!
Dude sick. Im an ol'skool flat lander from the 80's took me forever to learn the Miami hopper. Brings back fun times
Its actually easier with the peg on, because it hits, then the bars tweak about 20-25 degrees and you're locked in. Next up...Miami HOP HOPS!
The guy in the throw back video from 80s he doesn't have pegs on
The "pegs" were built into the forks back then. They flipped up and down. We didn't get decent pegs for a couple years later.
@@stylepoints.180 I'm not talking about the guy in the throwback video.. I'm talking about when I did them. Far easier with a peg, then the wheel tilts and it locks into place. Much easier
@@TheRipeTomatoFarms - that makes since. the Center of Gravity will be further back. Matty Superman Nut-Smashed himself & couldn’t rock back here.
Yeah, that checks. Having three points of contact will always be more stabe than 2.
love watching you gents. One thing i noticed, the back peg was also stopping Matty's leg from moving. Scotty you and i are just a few years apart. Love it!
I remember way back when I was a kid and flatland was still in the xgames and I was like meh, then I saw it in person and my respect sky rocketed
I wonder if an old school bikes geometry is different to make it less steep when it’s standing upright? Maybe one of those old-school bikes from inside the shop would make it easier. It was good to meet you the day you were filming this video we shot over from great adventure.
RL Osborn was known for his stylish endos, as this trick is for those that have mastered the standard endo. Nice work, takes a lot of practice and lost skin.
Mike Buff was an amazing rider from the 80s too.
Hey Scotty RL is active on Facebook. You should get him on the channel. Seeing El Cid on your UA-cam channel would be so friggin cool.
I always get nostalgia when you guys do these flat videos. Bring it back!
One of my favorite tricks. I think we ran wider bars in the 80's then now and the bike geometry was way more relaxed back then. Matty did great though. 👍
Back then they had short front triangle, with long rear triangle, (that's why laid back seat posts existed) Now they are the opposite. The Miami Hopper is easier on the new geometry, in my opinion. The new stuff is so much better on every level with exceptions to they all look the same.. Old school bikes had flavor, new school all look the same
@@mikehagen3785 No if Matty can't pull it off it obviously has to be because of the new bike. It can not possibly be his fault, right?
@@TheBod76 lol...
So cool to see the old school tricks again. I was freestyling back in the 80's. I was never much good at flatland tricks but always had a blast just street riding. I started out on a white Haro Freestyler then traded this and that and got a General RL Osborn Pro. It didn't make me any better but it was badass bike. I made some rad stainless steel pegs in shop class that I used on that bike. Our motto back in the 80's "the gods say we must ride today"
Today, I mountain bike all the time. mostly desert flow trails but occasionally some technical mountain downhill.
Scotty get matt to learn the cherry picker that move is insane.
The Miami Hopper was one of my main tricks back in 1988! I loved that trick.
Curious to know if Matty got that hundred bucks 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Hey Scotty just gotta say it’s crazy to see Matty doing these old tricks. I’m only 15 and I’m super into BMX but today’s BMX... this reminds me of my step dad because he always tells me about what he used to do when he was a kid and just how different the style of riding was. Awesome to see this being brought back and it’s so cool that it’s your Channel great work!
To do a hopper you need a longer seat post where your bars and seat meet each other.
I remember trying to learn this trick around 1985 / 86 and well while ( trying ) to get into the trick my front brake decided to go on strike ,considering the placement on my arse on the back wheel the timing of said strike was unnecessary to say the least . Loved seeing it again, as always thank you gentlemen.
I remember living in a time when flat landing was still a part of BMX competitions
Back then they had a “locking brake lever” that may help you with this. Fun to watch you whippersnappers try this old stuff out. Good stuff Scotty
That's right, that little black switch...I forgot all about that
Honestly, considering what Matty is capable of this should be an easy trick. You actually have to use your upper body more, your arms need to lock it in going down and pulling back out. Practice by going about half way and then pull back out, gradually go further until you can touch the handlebar on the ground then practice the balance before worrying about pulling out.
As a 49 year old who saw Rad in the theater and the Miami hopper was one of my favorite tricks to do back then I love this. Thanks!
To start off he was doing perfect bar endo's.
I was a BMW rider from 1980 to 1984, great to see you resurrecting these old tricks.
Love that you are throwing some props to the old-school guys. I loved this trick in the 80's. I used to do Miami Hop Hops. Went through forks like crazy though...lol
Don't bmx, but this is one of the most entertaining channels on yt. And this video takes the cake. No death defying heights, just some impossible maneuver. Great for matty for being sport.
Yeah man, I remember doing that trick back in the 80’s on my Mongoose Supergoose. My favorite trick was copying Stu Thompson’s laid over table top! Dude back then our seats were as high as the bars! 👍🏾👏🏽🤜🏽🤛🏽
I remember watching the BMX Action trick team put on a show behind that shop back in the late 80's. It would be so cool to see an old school jam back there again.
Man, I just found this channel and it's bringing back all kinds of great memories when me and my friends would do all these tricks. Loved doing the Miami hopper. Still have my Skyway Streetstyler and just restored my Dyno D-30. Wish I could still ride this way.
Absolutely loving the old school bmx! I’m 27 and remember watching guys do these when I was a kid!
Matty never fails to entertain. Thanks for the smiles.
Props. From one of those old school dudes. (disclaimer: I never did anything close to this trick. It was legend! Send me an Angel!!)
I've been waiting on this video. I worked on that trick for months on that trick in the 80's and only landed it once. Wasn't super clean but it was a make. Now I'm challenging Matt to do a Cherry Picker. I'm in South Jersey about 45 mins away. I'd drive up to see that.
York Jam - October 2, 2021 - Greatest flatland jam of the year, on the planet, period. 401 N. George St., York, PA.
I did Miami Hoppers all the time. We had seats with hand holds cut into the plastic and push locks so we didn't have to hold the brakes during the tricks. Step up to Miami Hop hops next!!! Go into position but half way down, balance on the side of your tire, start bouncing on the tire.
Matt: fire hydrant to decade.
My favorite flatland move from back in the day was the Decade. I still remember the first time seeing it on UA-cam and being completely awestruck.
After a horrible day at work this video made me smile, I thank you for that 🙏🏼
Always get so pumped up when it's something old school I've been watching you guys for a couple years I love the material on unmatched quility
When RL saw Hopper Paul do the Miami Hopper was at the track Homestead Pioneer Park. RL & Ron Wilton were there for a clinic that my parents set up!! I know this would make Hopper Paul so happy! Thank you for giving him the credit!
"Matty kinda did it" lol.. had me Rollin. I used to pull this trick no problem back in the day. You guys had me cheering loud for you. I'm about to go dust my bike off.
Cant wait for the flatland jam! Great job for trying Matt!
That was fun to watch! You did pretty good, especially on the first try! Grabbing the nose of the seat is best for doing the bar endo but if you're going down to the miami hopper, place your palm at the back of the seat to give you more support and stability when your bars touch the ground.
Matty should build up a full flatland bike. The geometry would help him in some of these.
In the 80s we used the same bike for everything, vert, wedge ramp, flatland, sometimes even racing.
@@mikehagen3785 Back in my day I used to frame stand my Dyno Pro Compe Team Model 20 miles to school and 20 miles back, uphill both ways! :) It really was a different breed of riding back in the 80's though for sure, and kinda why I lost interest for so many years once the mid and later 90's came. It almost felt like going backwards as everything became simpler but bigger and more "extreme", a sign of the times. Been back in again for about 5 years though and found dirt jumps are my niche after all these years. Happy to be back at it, even if I lost some teeth in the process, lol!
@@Lethargy01 I have a similar story, starting on my 85 Dyno Compe ll... been back on for 5 years after a 10 year hiatus. Shit hurts, but I love it
RL makes it look so easy. That's why he is the king! Matty tough trick to pull off. Flashback for sure. Time to watch RAD, again. Thx
There’s a bit of snobbery about riders in the 80s and what they were really capable of compared to today but this video shows they were pushing the envelope back then, I love the 80s recreation stuff, you should definitely keep them coming, thanks for the video
Stoked for the jam!! I would love to see some flatland legends show up.
Damn I actually did this trick on my 90’ Haro Team Master (you know, the one with about 2 extra feet of unnecessary tubing in the frame ha!) back then and had forgotten the tricks name. Loved loved that bike. Flatland freestyle baby. Cause nobody out in the country knew how to build a big ass ramp!
I'm 50 years old, and I can still do a Miami Hopper and miami Hop hops!! Radical dude!!! 🤙
i remember my old 80s bike having a seat post that angled back and was definitely up higher. I remember trying this trick as a kid. still looks scary:)
Guys that’s awesome but you’ve got to set your seat up so that the nose of the seat meets the end of your handle bars. That way you can control the grab better and have more strength in the hold. I’m an old school rider from Australia and still have my 1988 Haro Master - the geometry of this bike was great for old school tricks. Keep it up coz it’s great to see
It's actually a really easy trick once you do a few of them. gotta lean back over the tire. Flatland jams are great fun.
I feel like our bikes back in the day were longer. The newer bikes of today just look shorter but maybe not. I miss the 80s and early 90s. Great video!
I love these little trick challenges you guys do. It looks like your having a blast!! You guys have really hyped me up getting me back out and riding. Keep up the great work!!!